Shushi surrendered, the Azerbaijani army is on the outskirts of Stepanakert, and Pashinyan sends congratulations to Biden

After appearing on the streets of Shushi, the advanced detachments of the Azerbaijani army are separated from the capital of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, Stepanakert, some 15 km.

Despite the fact that in the vicinity of Shushi (the resident population in 2019 was 4,3 thousand people), fighting continues, including in the Karin Taka region (south of Shushi), the resistance of the Armenian troops does not look systematic and effectively organized.

Armenian troops demonstrate centers of activity in the area of ​​the aforementioned Karin Tak, as well as in the direction from Shushi to Berdzor (Lachin), striking the clusters of Azerbaijani wars, but judging by the development of recent events, they did not have a real line of defense. and no.

In such a situation, Stepanakert may repeat the fate of Shushi, at least in the sense that the battles may well move to its immediate outskirts. According to some reports, special forces and DRG detachments of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are already on the outskirts of the capital of Karabakh.

In such a situation, what does Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan say to the Armenian people, who until recently "ironically" stood on the position that Nagorno-Karabakh is Armenian? What does he publish on his pages in social networks against the background of Azerbaijani shots from Shushi? Perhaps he makes an appeal to citizens to organize resistance in the unrecognized NKR? But no ... The latest publication, made on the official website of the Armenian Prime Minister, informs the public about the congratulations that Nikol Pashinyan sent to Joe Biden. The latest publication on Pashinyan's Facebook page is dated November 3, and shows a captured person who calls himself a native of Syria.

It turns out that the current head of the government of the Republic of Armenia is currently more concerned not with Nagorno-Karabakh and the remaining Armenian population, but with Biden's political prospects in the United States.

Against this background, the press secretary of the president of unrecognized Artsakh Vahram Poghosyan confirmed that the record he made about the loss of Shushi is genuine. Poghosyan wrote on the social network that one must admit the fact: Shushi remained outside the control of the Armenian forces. According to Poghosyan, this is the truth, which he wrote, and the statements about the alleged hacking of his page have nothing to do with reality.

Comments

[RUSS]

Smells like an agreement.

[Pessimist22]

Have you sold Shushi?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Pessimist22

Have you sold Shushi?

When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

[NTD]

Quote: Tank Hard

When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

Do you think Aliyev should be given an order for his service? )))

[Tank hard]

Quote: MTN

Do you think Aliyev should be given an order for his service?

Definitely, he served. By the way, it would be level 100+ trolling.

[NTD]

Quote: Tank Hard

Definitely, he served. By the way, it would be level 100+ trolling.

I agree))))))))

[Otshelnik]

Damn, as I imagined, I drove off ..)))))

[Tank hard]

Quote: Otshelnik

Damn, as I imagined, I drove off.

Good trolling is an art.

[NTD]

Quote: Tank Hard

Good trolling is an art.

In the photo, Pashinyan's face is the same as if he received such an order)))

Congratulations, this is for your service to the fatherland

[Thrifty]

An MTN order must be issued in the name of Pashinyan, not an order!

[NTD]

Quote: Thrifty

MTN order must be issued in the name of Pashinyan, not an order

I thought you were Russian. It is the order that needs to be issued (medal) for good service.

[bobba94]

He is Russian, do not hesitate. When they talk about issuing a warrant for someone, a Russian person immediately understands what kind of warrant they are talking about ..... an arrest warrant.

[bycharashkO]

maybe a warrant .. for an apartment in Baku?

[Thrifty]

MTN -you are not mistaken, I am really Russian, I live in Rostov-on-Don, will it suit? ??

[Lesorub]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Pessimist22

Have you sold Shushi?

When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

Poshanyan, just like Gorbachev - after all the dirty tricks - will leave for the states to write his memoirs about democracy.

[Terenin]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Pessimist22

Have you sold Shushi?

When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

Yes, it was not the people of Armenia that lost Karabakh, but the leadership of Armenia, which failed to unite its people and unite.
In 1992-1994 there was a completely different war, now a different century, different technologies ... In my opinion, the Armenians defended Karabakh in 1994 due to tremendous courage, dedication and dedication. This is what they lacked now. Not all Armenians understood the seriousness of the situation, especially those living in Russia and abroad.
And if our 102nd base had not been in Gyumri, and Russian border guards would not have stood on the border with Karabakh, it’s scary to imagine, but the Azerbaijanis would most likely have reached Yerevan.
No offense, this is my personal point of view

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Terenin

Yes, it was not the people of Armenia that lost Karabakh, but the leadership of Armenia, which

... which was brought to power by the people of Armenia.

[Terenin]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: Terenin

Yes, it was not the people of Armenia that lost Karabakh, but the leadership of Armenia, which

... which was brought to power by the people of Armenia.

That's for sure

[bobba94]

I read a lot of materials on the Karabakh conflict and became convinced of the correctness of Azerbaijan. Under the Union, the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region was part of the AzSSR. The area of ​​the NKAO was 4,4 thousand square meters. km, lived in it about 100 thousand Armenians and about 40 thousand Azerbaijanis. The union collapsed, conflicts began and here the Armenians created the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, the area of ​​which was already 11,5 thousand square meters. km., that is, 7 thousand sq. km. It turns out, on the sly, the Armenians seized the primordially Azerbaijani lands, several regions, where about 98,7% of Azerbaijanis and only 1,3% of Armenians always lived. After the seizure of these lands, 500 thousand Azerbaijanis became refugees, they were simply expelled. I am not for whites and not for reds .... I am for objectivity. Russian, Kursk region

[Flavius]

Why are you lying, reader? How can there be 500 thousand refugees, if during the peaceful period 168 thousand Azerbaijanis lived in Armenia in 1988? And not all of them went to the AzSSR! You don't even read the official figures of your country, they even say lies more adequate numbers are called.

Although, if you listen to them, 30 thousand Armenians still live with them (Aliev). View census data -673 people and then from mixed marriages!

500 thousand is the number of Armenian refugees - that is how many Armenians lived in the Azerbaijan SSR. And now the figure is close to zero! And that's not counting other refugees and internally displaced persons: Greeks, Assyrians, Russians, Georgians, etc.

[Cosm22]

What have they sold?
It was clear to any adequate person a week after the start of the campaign that neither Stepanakert nor Karabakh in general could be held by the Armenians.

[Incvizitor]

If they could seriously hold it, they would buy the air defense, they would use the same Iskander on the local command of AZ, they beat them from the hills on the technique, if they could seriously approach this, this speech did not even push him to give a damn about everything.
And no one was preparing for war there, almost all equipment of the 70s.

[RUSS]

Quote: Pessimist22

Have you sold Shushi?

Sold, handed over, exchanged ...
Yes, Azerbaijanis will not be offended by me, but how easy Armenia is to let go of Karabakh

[Vadivak]

Quote: RUSS

Yes, Azerbaijanis will not be offended by me, but how easy Armenia is to let go of Karabakh

So what? All one thing will say Russia is to blame.

[Revolver]

Quote: Vadivak

So what? All one thing will say Russia is to blame.

And the Jews, how can we do without them?

[Walking]

Yes, the Armenians already say that Russia is to blame. Didn't protect.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Vadivak

So what? All one thing will say Russia is to blame.

Even at the very beginning of the conflict, expert Hakobyan expressed the idea that Soros planned this cunning and bloody combination with a clear outcome in advance - the loss of Karabakh for Armenia forever, and Pashinyan began to implement it. What is its meaning? The belligerent Pashinyan was supposed to provoke Aliyev to decisively oppose Artsakh / Karabakh and try to involve Russia in the conflict (defense of a CSTO member!). If Russia intervened and helped to defend Karabakh for Armenia, then it would be justified against it! - all the bumps and new sanctions would fall down, and her long-term Caucasian policy of an independent and fair arbiter would collapse. But if smart Russia did not get involved in a bloody fight, then Pashinyan would have to be accused of heartlessness and indifference to the Armenian people, disperse Russophobic sentiments in Armenia and on this wave "lead to the West" Armenia, forever torn away from Russia. Is Hakobyan correct in his assumptions? I do not know. But so far everything is going according to the scenario described by him. Unless Pashinyan manages to strongly shake Russophobia and the Armenians are not opposed to Russia, but against Pashinyan himself. Let's watch how it all ends.

[NTD]

Quote: RUSS

Yes, Azerbaijanis will not be offended by me, but how easy Armenia is to let go of Karabakh

Dear, they lost because they were not ready for this not politically, not materially, not technically, not strategically or even diplomatically.

Sold or exchanged, it's all nonsense. Their political mistake was that they flooded against Russia, against the guarantor of their security. War is money and they have money to wage a long and tough war. And their military equipment is of the old model, which is not capable of efficiently waging a fight against modern weapons, plus the war strategy of the 20th century is fundamentally different from the 21st century.

Now, they need a lot of money to restore the Army, both technically and human resources. They lost both people and equipment and land. This is a shameful loss.

[t-12]

Their political mistake was that they flooded against Russia, against the guarantor of their security.

And if not flooded, then what? Would Russia intervene in the war? Armenia is a poor country dependent on imports (including food), mired in debt (because it needs currency). And in Azerbaijan - oil, a lot of dough. Moreover, Turkey is helping.

[NTD]

Quote: t-12

And if not flooded, then what? Would Russia intervene in the war?

In April 2016, one call from Putin was enough to stop the war. Ilham Aliyev said this openly. Don't you understand that Putin punished the Armenians with the hands of Azerbaijanis? Putin has 1000 leverage over Azerbaijan, Russia does not need to interfere in the war, just a call.

Quote: t-12

Moreover, Turkey is helping.

In monetary terms, Russia helped us 10 times more. Israel is following him. On the 3rd place is Turkey, on the 4th place is Ukraine and Belarus. Please, if you speak, speak directly and honestly and fully. We paid Turkey with money for all the weapons as well as the above mentioned countries. The only thing that makes Turkey different is that it supported us in all the world's stands, as did Pakistan.

[t-12]

I didn’t hear the conversation between Putin and Aliyev, and I don’t want to guess on the coffee grounds. Russia does not "help", but sells weapon. For money. Armenia has no money, Azerbaijan has it.

[NTD]

Quote: t-12

Russia does not "help", but sells weapons. For money. Armenia has no money, Azerbaijan has it.

:) Tin you frame :) Can you imagine that Turkey or Pakistan or Israel will sell weapons to Armenians?

I hope you get the hint ..........

[t-12]

Israel? Yes, easily. If Armenia pays, Israel will sell any weapon. But Armenia has no money.

[Revolver]

Quote: t-12

If Armenia pays, Israel will sell any weapon.

That is unlikely. Armenia is painfully dependent on Iran, and technology can fall into the clutches of the ayatollahs. Does Israel need it?
Azerbaijan and the Ayatollahs have graters, so Israel is quietly selling them. Again, according to rumors, Azerbaijan provides Jews with airfields and reconnaissance bases in close proximity to Iran, and this is also appreciated.

[Incvizitor]

I would hardly have flooded it directly, but I could have thrown the shell and the UAV would have been put right away, although seeing how Shushi was drained, I still would not have dragged it.

[RUSS]

Quote: MTN

Their political mistake was that they flooded against Russia

Our President Pashinyan will not forgive him for coming to power on the wave of protests.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: MTN

they lost because they weren't ready for it

On the contrary. They will lose because they were prepared for it.

[Reviews]

Quote: MTN

fundamentally different

Hmm ...

[voyaka uh]

"but how easy Armenia lets go of Karabakh" ////
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In my opinion, quite understandable. Armenian army was stunned
overwhelming advantage of Azerbaijan in the air - drones
literally staged a beating of equipment and soldiers.
The morale of the Armenian soldiers fell.
Therefore, despite the firmness of individual Armenian units near Shushi,
the campaign ended (almost ended) with the defeat of Armenia.

[Old tanker]

They sold all of Karabakh, but the men on the front line don't even know!

[Tatyana]

Quote: Old Tankman

They sold all of Karabakh, but the men on the front line don't even know!

That's where the tragedy is! So many lives have been laid and still will be laid on both sides!

REFERENCE for comparison. Karabakh and Kosovo. The initial situation is the same, but why such a different approach ?!

These days there is a bloody process of "liberation" of Karabakh by Azerbaijan, similar to the process of "liberation" of Kosovo by Serbia.
Yes, according to international law, the immutability of borders during the collapse of the USSR NK cannot be separated from Azerbaijan. Moreover, it was exactly the same as the autonomous region of Kosovo could not be separated from Serbia during the collapse of Yugoslavia.
However, the "international community" demanded from Serbia to stop "liberation". When Serbia refused to obey, this very community (represented by the United States and its most active henchmen) ground down civilians in Serbia hundreds of kilometers from the conflict zone with bombs. And then about half of this very community recognized the independence of Kosovo.
The international community is silent regarding the NKR.
Yes, Karabakh is a recognized part of Azerbaijan on the basis of the principle of inviolability of the borders of states under "international law".
But in the case of Kosovo, it was said: the Kosovar Albanians wanted so much to secede, fought so hard for it, suffered so badly that we will make an exception. And Kosovo is no longer part of Serbia.
The autonomous province of Kosovo in the Serbian Republic after the collapse of Yugoslavia separated from Serbia and the independence of Kosovo was recognized by 98 states out of 193 (50%) UN members, 22 out of 27 (81%) EU member states, 26 out of 30 (87%) NATO member states , and 34 out of 57 (60%) member states of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).
Is the mutual hatred between Armenians and Azerbaijanis less than the mutual hatred between Albanians and Serbs?

Why DOUBLE STANDARDS? Because Turkey is a vassal of Great Britain!

[NTD]

Quote: Tatiana

Why DOUBLE STANDARDS? Because Turkey is a vassal of Great Britain!

Tanya, I already asked you to cook BORSCH better than to write nonsense of Armenian authors here. You are not tired of copying from other people's sites and even Armenian authors ?????????????

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/infojdru/karabah-i-kosovo-ishodnaia-situaciia-odinakovaia-no-pochemu-takoi-raznyi-podhod-5f7c137271c44f08295bb3bc

You always have pro-Armenian sources and here you sing about justice.

[Tatyana]

Quote: MTN

You always have pro-Armenian sources and here you sing about justice.

Don't worry! I also study Azerbaijani sources.

Meanwhile, the use of uti possidetis juris and the need to transform the former constitutional units - republics, and not autonomous regions and autonomous republics - was confirmed in practice by the Badinter Commission when considering the split of Yugoslavia and the delimitation of the territories of the six former union republics of the SFRY. The Badinter International Expert Commission in its conclusions clearly defined that only six former constitutional republics of the SFRY, and not autonomous units within these republics, have the right to secede up to the creation of an independent state within the constitutional borders of the former Soviet Yugoslavia. In the case of the USSR, one can only talk about 15 former republics, but not NKAO as part of the Republic of Azerbaijan.
Guided by the principles and norms of international law, Azerbaijan took an absolutely objective position, offering Nagorno-Karabakh any status only in the context of the right to internal self-determination, that is, the status of autonomy.

See details -https: //haqqin.az/news/190335
But, firstly, after all, Aliyev ultimately refused autonomy to the Armenians of the NKR.
And secondly, after the collapse of Yugoslavia, the autonomous province of Kosovo in the Republic of Serbia separated from Serbia and Kosovo's independence was recognized by 98 states out of 193 (50%) UN members, 22 out of 27 (81%) EU member states, 26 out of 30 (87 %) NATO member states, and 34 out of 57 (60%) member states of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).

[Tatyana]

Quote: MTN

Tanya, I already asked you to cook BORSCH better than to write nonsense of Armenian authors here.

Do you already feel dizzy from the victory over the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh as a citizen of the AR?
Don't tell me to cook borscht here! I'm not your servant!

Quote: MTN

You are not tired of copying from other people's sites and even Armenian authors ?????????????

I write comments the way I think it is faster and from where I need it! You are not a decree to me!

[Revolver]

Quote: Tatiana

When Serbia refused to obey, this very community (represented by the United States and its most active henchmen) ground down civilians in Serbia hundreds of kilometers from the conflict zone with bombs.

Well, how do you propose to do this? Drive an aircraft carrier into the Caspian Sea? Or to bomb Azerbaijan from Incirlik NATO base in Turkey?

[Tatyana]

The commentary is about the electoral policy of DOUBLE STANDARDS in the "world community" of the UN countries on their application of "international law" with regard to the recognition of the alleged invariability of state borders when the Autonomous Republics and Autonomous Regions try to secede from their state.
One, like Kosovo, turned out to be possible "as an exception" - Kosovo was an autonomous republic in Serbia - while others were not.
For example:
- The independence of Transnistria from Moldova was recognized by the Russian Federation, South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
- The independence of the Autonomous Republic of Kramskoy from Ukraine and its voluntary inclusion into the Russian Federation were recognized by only 8 states: Nicaragua, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Syria, Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, Palestine. There are no serious political "players" among these states. There is also a list of countries that conditionally recognize the Russian Crimea. The fact is that Ukraine constantly submits to the UN General Assembly a resolution on its territorial integrity, they say, the whole world needs to take measures against Russia.
- UN states that officially recognize Abkhazia or South Ossetia as independent: Russia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Nauru, Vanuatu, Syria. Many states first recognized their independence, and then withdrew their recognition.
- The DPR and LPR are unrecognized from Ukraine.

[Incvizitor]

Armenia was sold.

[210ox]

It smacks of disorganization and collapse of the Artsakh armed forces over the past ten years.

[Borik]

And how many of those armed forces were there in the NKR? They cannot resist Azerbaijan alone. It seems that there is nowhere to wait for the help of the NKR either, Pashinyan is a state protege and it seems to him that he has no time for NKR.

[Alex777]

With Pashinyan, everything seems to be clear.
Where is the opposition to national salvation?
Did you buy everyone in bulk? Silence is worth it?

[Otshelnik]

Nice lunge ...

[t-12]

And there is no opposition. And in general, there is a feeling that the Armenians do not really need Karabakh. Well, that is, historically and culturally, it may be needed, but economically and pragmatically ... Poor mountainous region, no profit from it, no investments there in 25 years, the population in 25 years dumped in Armenia and Russia.

[major147]

Quote: Alex777

With Pashinyan, everything seems to be clear.
Where is the opposition to national salvation?

I have already shared my thoughts on this topic in the next thread. I will repeat myself.

Here the situation seems to me a little different. "Comrade" Pashinyan has been tasked by his bosses to tear Armenia away from Russia and attach it to NATO, and for "good" behavior it may be in the EU. Hence the pre-war anti-Russian demonstrations with the aim of setting Russia anti-Armenian. And then a NATO member Turkey, pushed ahead the liberation of Karabakh by Azerbaijan. When the Armenians are expelled from Karabakh, Russophobic sentiments in Armenia will inflate even more and under the slogan "Russia has betrayed us! Armenia's salvation in NATO". As a result, straight there with all the consequences.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Fuck them in the ass! A tablecloth road, a drum on the neck and a locomotive towards.

Quote: major147

When the Armenians are expelled from Karabakh, Russophobic sentiments in Armenia will inflate even more and under the slogan "Russia has betrayed us! Armenia's salvation in NATO". As a result, straight there with all that it implies.

Armenia is a poor landlocked country. Even Ukraine and Georgia were not accepted into NATO, despite the fact that they have access to the sea and have a common border with Russia. Nobody needs Armenia from the word "absolutely".

[major147]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Armenia is a poor landlocked country.

Why, then, does the West so actively "spud" them? As many as 2000 "employees" of the US Embassy.

[sergo1914]

Quote: major147

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Armenia is a poor landlocked country.

Why, then, does the West so actively "spud" them? As many as 2000 "employees" of the US Embassy.

Maybe just addicted to cognac? He's not bad there.

[Alex777]

"Russia has betrayed us! The salvation of Armenia is in NATO."

There is nothing in Armenia that would be of interest to NATO.
There is no oil, there is not even a border with Russia.

[major147]

Quote: Alex777

"Russia has betrayed us! The salvation of Armenia is in NATO."

There is nothing in Armenia that would be of interest to NATO.
There is no oil, there is not even a border with Russia.

But there are 2000 "employees" at the US embassy and ... the border with Iran.

[Alex777]

Under Biden, sanctions will be lifted.
The EU wants this very much.

[major147]

Quote: Alex777

Under Biden, sanctions will be lifted.

Here it is still necessary to live to Biden, and Trump is finally preparing a pod for Iran. There is information.

[Revolver]

Quote: major147

Trump is finally preparing a pod for Iran. There is information.

I would like to hope that he will succeed. And with Iran, and in the courts.

[Alex777]

I would like to hope that he will succeed. And with Iran, and in the courts.

Trump will fail.
He surrendered everyone with whom he won.
And Flynn, and Tillerson, and Bannon.
Now they will hand it over.
Falsifications in favor of Biden are obvious, but disassembly is not beneficial to anyone.
Trump simply won't be given time to prove anything.
What do you personally have against Iran?

[Revolver]

Quote: Alex777

What do you personally have against Iran?

The regime of the allah-obsessed ayatollahs, striving for possession of nuclear weapons, is not at all what I would like to see on the map ... yes, of any region, in general on the ball. In this sense, even Kim the Third is safer, because he has at least some instinct for self-preservation, and these are not averse to making the whole country shahids, just to establish his fanatical version of Islam on the entire planet.

[Alex777]

The regime of the ayatollahs who are obsessed with Allah ... are not averse to making the whole country shahids, just to establish their fanatical version of Islam on the entire planet.

Ec propaganda works on you.
Directly instigator of religious hatred.
Wasn't your ISIS States done?
Or do you understand the difference between Shiites and Sunnis?
Or did not the Sunnis / Wahhabis (according to the official version) demolish the Twins in New York?
Wahhabis in your opinion are safer?
Or is it not they who sponsored the development of nuclear weapons in Pakistan? And count on him on occasion.
How do you like the Saudis with nuclear weapons?
For that matter, Iran is catching up with Israel and the KSA in terms of nuclear weapons. Iran did not start this race.
It's amazing that people sometimes write!

[Revolver]

Quote: Alex777

Wahhabis in your opinion are safer?

The same personal belongings, only in profile.

[Alex777]

https://vz.ru/world/2020/11/9/1069506.html

[ZAV69]

Everything is correct. It will turn out to involve Russia in this war, great !!! It will not work, Pashinyan is pouring carbach, at home, in Armenia, he will make extreme Russia, under this sauce he will fly into NATO with a whistle.

[Alex777]

Not tired of writing nonsense?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alex777

Silence is worth it?

The 21st century is in the yard - the Dashnak has gone wrong today.

[Alex777]

I got excited about the silence.
It was the calm before the storm.

[Garris199]

It was not so little. Competent equipment, training and command of these forces would give a completely different result. Armenia actually did not prepare for this war.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Garris199

Armenia actually did not prepare for this war.

When, historically, except for whom did she sell what she was preparing for? Read history, they even sold Byzantium. And in the last war, Russians fought on both sides

[Megatron]

And here they even minus me, for the karabatskys.

[lwxx]

Shot down our helicopter. Thinking the Armenians, that would involve in the conflict, Azerbaijan does not need it. (don't scare the minus.)

[Alex777]

Azerbaijan has already admitted guilt.
So think carefully.

[lwxx]

And I think. Beneficiary Armenia. Judging by the video, there was an ambush, and outside the DB zone. Ours were framed, it is clear, who benefits? So be careful with your brains.

[Alex777]

And I think. Beneficiary Armenia ....
So be careful with your brains.

Reread what I wrote to you so as not to think:

Azerbaijan has already admitted guilt.

Everything. There is no place to think, but there is a fact on the face.

[lwxx]

Thinking is always useful. 1 Azerbaijan will fight to admit guilt. unlike the Turks, Iranians, etc. 2 Outside the DB zone, a helicopter was shot down, no matter whose Armenian or Russian, Armenia and Azerbaijan are not officially at war. 3 our troops brought in troops, albeit officially peacekeepers, but they save the Armenians.

[major147]

Quote: Megatron

And here they even minus me, for the karabatskys.

+ To you from me, as a victim of the soros

[Renator]

Quote: RUSS

Smells like an agreement.

Did you think Armenians are warriors?

[Revolver]

Quote: Renator

Quote: RUSS

Smells like an agreement.

Did you think Armenians are warriors?

The chant of the 1980s sector 33 of the Kirov stadium (Zenit fan sector):
"Ararat from Yerevan is a herd of wild monkeys !!!"

[Tank hard]

Shushi surrendered, the Azerbaijani army is on the outskirts of Stepanakert, and Pashinyan sends congratulations to Biden

What a fine fellow! Didn't forget to congratulate!

[210ox]

Well, then! You should always have an alternate airfield.

[Tank hard]

Quote: 210ox

Well, then! You should always have an alternate airfield.

Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

[Grits]

Quote: Tank Hard

Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

No, this scum will definitely not be allowed here. Only in Omeriga

[Tank hard]

Quote: Gritsa

No, this scum will definitely not be allowed here. Only in Omeriga

Akaev, Yanek. live, they are not better. IMHO

[Revolver]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Tank Hard

Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

No, this scum will definitely not be allowed here. Only in Omeriga

Do we need it in America? No, to Rostov! Well, to the most extreme, to Paris. And best of all, to the native land of small but proud Armenia. And a plate on top with a sentimental inscription.

[APASUS]

Quote: Tank Hard

Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

What do you think, the residents of Karabakh will go to restore the Armenian economy? I think they will soon be in Rostov, that in France barmaleev

[Tank hard]

Quote: APASUS

What do you think, the residents of Karabakh will go to restore the Armenian economy? I think they will soon be in Rostov, that in France barmaleev

After the first "events" between Azerbaijanis and Armenians, a significant part of the Armenian refugees settled in the Kaluga region and not in Armenia, why is that (?! ). I also remember the phrase that set my teeth on edge: - "Nice city of Kaluga, but there are too many Russians here." Who do you think this phrase belongs to? So it goes..

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Tank Hard

Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov

He has his own "Rostov" in Los Angeles!

[major147]

Quote: Tank Hard

Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

Why, from my hometown, they make some kind of "dump of history"

[Andrey VOV]

In principle, it’s a logical conclusion ... you can say war, its main phase is over ... but now Armenia and Pashinyan have no territorial disputes and she can say, Russia is adyu, Europe take me to you ...

[Ramadan]

Most likely this will be the game now. Offended Armenia is saying goodbye to Russia and will now ask for protection from distant America. Only where there are states there is always chaos, especially in the east and the Caucasus, and the Turchata will certainly try to take advantage of this.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Ramazan

Most likely this will be the game now. Offended Armenia is saying goodbye to Russia and now will ask for protection from distant America. Only where there are states there is always chaos, especially in the east and the Caucasus, and Turchata will certainly try to take advantage of this

It remains to "love" Armenia itself, which is quite realistic with such a talented leadership.

[Ramadan]

For that fought for it and ran. I support the decision of the Wagnerites, who refused to go there to fight in their place. The Armenians themselves are not particularly eager to get into this meat grinder with such a commander-in-chief. But it is of course a pity for ordinary civilians of NK, the elderly, children. To move from a habitable place to the unknown and with nothing, it's hard. However, like the Azerbaijanis at one time.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Ramazan

For that fought for it and ran. I support the decision of the Wagnerites, who refused to go there to fight in their place. The Armenians themselves are not particularly eager to get into this meat grinder with such a commander-in-chief. But it is of course a pity for ordinary civilians of NK, the elderly, children. To move from a habitable place to the unknown and with nothing, it's hard. However, like the Azerbaijanis at one time

I completely agree with you.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Ramazan

The Armenians themselves are not particularly eager to get into this meat grinder with such a commander-in-chief.

Yes, at least with anyone, they are not torn. By the way, unlike the Georgians, those when the turmoil in 90 began basically left to fight. And these are at home here

[Ramadan]

And apparently let go. The generation has changed, the roots have already been put in another land, and that's it, the heart doesn't call, the soul doesn't cry.

[Runoway]

Only where there are states there is always chaos

Chaos primarily along our borders:
-Estonia completed
-Latvia completed
-Georgia completed
-Poland completed
-Ukraine completed
-Belarus load
-Armenia load
-Moldova load

[t-12]

Ukraine has not been completed yet, but only delayed.

[major147]

Quote: Ramazan

Most likely this will be the game now.

Oh, I see the hand of the Darkest One in the Karabakh turmoil.

[NTD]

Quote: Andrey VOV

Pashinyan has no territorial disputes and she can say, Russia is adyu, Europe, take me to you ...

It is quite possible, but how does this threaten Russia? And also how will Russia behave if the Armenians say dosvidos from Gyumri?

[Old tanker]

It is high time to bring our people out of Gyumri. It is not clear what our base is doing there, who is covering?

[t-12]

She covers the Caucasus from the Turks. Well, that is, ideally should cover.

[NTD]

Quote: Old Tankman

It is high time to bring our people out of Gyumri. It is not clear what our base is doing there, who is covering?

The answer to your question is hidden in the records of Peter the Great. Armenia is a royal project !!! And the ungrateful Armenians began to spit in the well from where they drank water. Punishment is what happened in Karabakh. Another trick (2nd Pashinyan), I think, will be a corridor to Nakhichevan, and then they will be completely fucked.

[Old tanker]

In 2016, the first bell rang for Armenians. They drew a conclusion from it - they have greased the skis well and now they are confidently rolling from the Karabaz mountains.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Andrey VOV

now Armenia and Pashinyan have no territorial disputes and she can say, Russia is adyu, Europe, take me to you ...

In general, the stake on Armenia as an outpost of the Russian Federation in the Caucasus was initially erroneous. It was necessary to "bet" on Azerbaijan. This is a potentially more valuable ally. And from the standpoint of geopolitics, and politics, and economics.
Now, it seems, we are losing both Azerbaijan and Armenia.

[donavi49]

Thor was also burned with 2 Harop and a UAV on control - which passed him with the radar on


Thor is just Armenian, it is characteristic of them.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Effectively, there is no bazaar. (from)

[OgnennyiKotik]

The wasp was also destroyed. As soon as the weather appeared, the video went.

[Hypertension]

[quote = donavi49] Thor was also burned with 2 Haropes and a UAV on control - which passed him with the radar on

In the video from 1:05, the cat was killed ...

[donavi49]

In general, this is a completely digital Tor, with a new radar and a new rocket. Most of the Russian tori are still analog and with the old radar. If they slammed the UAV gunner - then this is oh. Rather, AI military air defense!

[Hypertension]

He seemed to be in the stowed position?

[donavi49]

Radar in operation on video. It does not have a stowed position. He shoots from the march and even on the move (but perhaps only a caterpillar, and Kamazik from a stop, and Bazik can also on the move).

[Hypertension]

What happens? Maybe he spotted the UAV and decided to hide in the building? Lost Shusha - panic - disorganization - inappropriate actions ...

[Vadim237]

What weapon do not give out to these brakes, they all will merge ineptly.

[Lexus]

Hello!
The only possible explanation is the lack of ammo and recharge time.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Hyperion

In the video from 1:05, the cat was killed

Got upset

[Fungus]

As always, the air defense was destroyed through the fault of the installation crew. And not the installation itself. Good technique in the hands of savages is always bad.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Fungus

Good technique in the hands of savages is always bad.

How long can you repeat this mantra?
Tor-M2KM is the latest air defense system, in 2019 they just received them, Armenian officers were trained in Russia. A large number of exercises have been conducted within the framework of the CSTO.
There is a systemic problem of military air defense against UAVs, which needs to be addressed.

[Fungus]

There is no problem other than the crew. Even the clumsy Libyans shoot down drones and UAVs, unlike the Armenians.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Fungus

Even the clumsy Libyans shoot down drones and UAVs, unlike the Armenians.

Yes Yes. The Armenians shot down at least 2 Bayraktar, dozens of AN-2 and other UAVs. Did it help? Libya shot down by dozens, also helped? The cost of 1 day of war, as in Karabakh, is about $ 50 million. The price of Bayraktar TB2 is 2-3 million dollars, you can lose in packs of them.

Quote: Fungus

There is no problem other than the crew.

Well, live in a world of illusions, if 3 wars in this incomplete year did not convince you of this, I cannot do anything.

[Vadim237]

Judging by the video in the Torah, not the operators were sitting, but the monkeys who just scrambled. And no need to say that they have run out of missile ammunition - if they are in a combat position, then they must have a loading vehicle and after shooting all the missiles they had to go to reload, but instead they went to the garage to the "Arsen", and was eventually destroyed and the complex and the garage and, apparently, "Arsen" itself, which gave these rare deer a garage for their use.

[OgnennyiKotik]

I do not agree.
The TOR operators discovered possible surveillance of themselves, but could not determine the exact coordinates of the UAV and aim the missiles, or the range and height of the UAV were beyond the reach of its missiles. So we hid.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Another variant of the TOP was "drowned out" by the REP, after he "went blind" and hid.

[Vadim237]

One version is more fabulous than the other - this Thor has a detection range of 40 kilometers for air targets and a range of 20 kilometers, it can work in automatic mode and even hit gliding bombs with a minimum EPR - but in our case all these possibilities were reduced to zero - by "master" calculation ...

[OgnennyiKotik]

The Armenians' Tor-M2KM has the following parameters:
Detection range, m 32000
Detection angle, deg 0-32(32-64)
Lesion area, m
- at a distance of 1000-15000
-on height 10-10000
- by course parameter 0-8000

The detection range is usually considered to a target with an RCS of 1 m2. For a UAV, the EPR is multiples of less than 1 m2, this is in favor of version 1.
The range of destruction of missiles is 15 km. Optics on Bayraktars see 20 km, on Hermes 900 20 km +. to monitor the TOP, you do not need to enter the defeat zone, this is in favor of version 2.
Both Israel and the Turks have electronic warfare UAVs. The Hermes 900 has an electronic warfare version and the Turks know exactly about the ANKA-I. Azerbaijan has 900% Hermes 100. This is in favor of version 3.
P.S. I ask you to calmly discuss, we do not have exact knowledge of this situation, there are only assumptions. Torah can be destroyed based on the performance characteristics of the weapons used by both sides, regardless of the skill of the crew.

[Vadim237]

For you, this complex allows you to detect air targets with an RCS of 0,01 Meters in -square at a distance of 20 kilometers. I didn't mention planning bombs for nothing.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Vadim237

EPR 0,01 Meters squared at a distance of 20 kilometers.

Is there any confirmation of this? Proofs? More like a marketing statement i.e. it happens under some conditions.
In any case, UAVs can observe the TOP without entering the zone of destruction of its missiles, Harop can fly several meters above the ground, below the detection zone of the TOP radar. Naturally, the REP “crushes” the radar without any problems.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Vadim237

EPR 0,01 Meters squared at a distance of 20 kilometers.

The minimum that I found TOP detects a target with an RCS of 0,05 M2. For this model 0,1 M2

[MIG_2]

I wrote yesterday or the day before yesterday that the drones are not visible due to low clouds, the weather has become a little better, here are the drones that were allegedly destroyed

[Old tanker]

It seems that the Armenians are specifically rolling out equipment under attack. Of course it is not. But, damn it, sheer indulgence and not the ability to fight.
By the way, over the millennia of the Armenian nation, have they really documented independent victories?

[Otshelnik]

The million dollar question!))

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Old Tanker

By the way, over the millennia of the Armenian nation, have they really documented independent victories?

There are, of course, quite a few. Otherwise, they would not have survived in this mess. There were, they were victories.
But not at this time.

[SERGOL]

There is not much left, and Karabakh (Artsakh) will be completely in the hands of the Azeris. Armenians stink a little and historical justice will prevail.

[Peter rybak]

The defense army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) has lost control over the key city of Shushi, Azerbaijani troops are on the outskirts of Stepanakert, said the press secretary of the NKR president Vahram Poghosyan.

Pashinyan did his job.

[Grits]

Quote: Peter Rybak

Pashinyan did his job.

Not yet.
As soon as he turned his back on Russia, he lost Karabakh.
As soon as it completely squeezes Russia out of Armenia, it will lose all Armenia.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Gritsa

Not yet.
As soon as he turned his back on Russia, he lost Karabakh.
As soon as it completely squeezes Russia out of Armenia, it will lose all Armenia.

Exactly.

[CommanderDIVA]

I wonder how the Armenian servicemen will now be evacuated and what routes, it turns out that they are surrounded, the road to Armenia with NGOs is cut?

[Andrey VOV]

Well, perhaps they will negotiate ... remember Dunkirk ... Aliyev does not need a massacre ... they will be allowed to go out along the same Lachin corridor, but without equipment, with a rifle at the most

[CommanderDIVA]

Azerbaijan needs a public humiliation of Armenia for the possession of Karabakh for 30 years, and all this will be well covered in the media and on the international arena, most likely even the small arms will have to be left by the Armenians if there are banners, even if they could be carried out, if this happens, to Unfortunately, this will be the largest military-political defeat of the Armenian nation over the past 100 years, the Armenians are such a wise people, the most ancient civilization and church, how did they choose such rulers for themselves at the present time?

[Cron]

Quote: SERGOL

There is not much left, and Karabakh (Artsakh) will be completely in the hands of the Azeris. Armenians stink a little and historical justice will prevail.

What kind of historical justice are we talking about?

[Dmitry Makarov]

With Putin's tacit consent, the Turks suppressed the anti-Russian Armenia.

[Grits]

Quote: Dmitry Makarov

With Putin's tacit consent, Turks suppressed anti-Russian Armenia

It must be admitted that the Turks and Azerbaijan have chosen a very good moment. They waited for a long time, but as soon as Pashinyan began to spit on Russia, they understood that their time had come.

[SERGOL]

Joke of the day

[alexmach]

... More precisely, about how sloppily Pashinyan runs Facebook .. Well ... but could it be that he and other things would have enough at this time?
With congratulations to Biden, he seemed to be in a hurry ..

[fn34440]

Pashinyan wants so much, now, to take Navalny's place in the Alpine boarding house, but "Novichek" is a dear piece, "Porton Down" prescribes only the elite.

[Keyser soze]

How the bashibozuku managed to profuse such positions is unclear. Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight. In this city, the battalion could comfortably fight for a week.

[Pavlos Melas]

Quote: Keyser Soze

How the bashibozuku managed to profuse such positions is unclear. Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight. In this city, the battalion could comfortably fight for a week.

Alas, alas, the Armenians lost Karabakh to the Turks. Now Armenia itself will be in an unenviable position. Another 150 thousand residents, refugees in a poor country.

[MIG_2]

they will go to Russia and Turkey

[Megatron]

I mean, in ours?

[Renator]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

Alas, alas, the Armenians lost Karabakh to the Turks.

Niko, did you really think the Armenians would win?

[Pavlos Melas]

I thought that there would be no drain and hoped that this conflict would freeze. The Armenians did not have any preconditions to win, one on one. In a war, resources are the first priority. You can laugh at the Azerbaijanis as much as you like that they are not warriors, but human resources and economic resources are on their side. No fighting spirit can defeat a much more numerous enemy with better weapons. An enemy who will fight and not scatter. It should also be borne in mind that there are only Karabakh Armenians and only imkhtamnet from Armenia. Armenians cannot use their full potential. Anyway, loot wins to anybody.

[Renator]

[quote = Pavlos Melas] For that, Azerbaijan and Turkey will open the border and the economy will improve, investments will come, I think they will benefit from it

[Pavlos Melas]

[quote = Renator] [quote = Pavlos Melas] For that, Azerbaijan and Turkey will open the border and the economy will improve, investments will come, I think they will benefit from this [/ quote]
It will not work with the Turks, the Turks will not trust the Armenians about Western Armenia, they remember better than the Armenians. The Armenians will be friends with the Turks only in the form of a vassal.

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight.

If the Armenians themselves do not believe in their victory, then neither the position nor the technique will help them.

[Renator]

Quote: Keyser Soze

How did the bashibozuku manage to waste such positions?

Hello fellow countryman! I told you not to underestimate us. By the way, you are silent about the bedridden

[Anton Yu]

Interestingly, after the capture of Stepanakert, the fighting will continue or stop?

[parusnik]

What are you, war to the bitter end ..

[hydro]

Azerbaijani forces shot down a Russian helicopter in Armenia in the direction of Nakhchivan

[parusnik]

One thing is clear, Karabakh, now does not see autonomy as its own ears. And in order to admire their own ears in the mirror, the Karabakh Armenians need to collect things so that others do not admire their ears.

[Brands]

And many did not believe that the town was taken.
IMHO the flag will be shown hoisting in all its glory in Stepanakert.
After the negotiations, as Aliyev said.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Merkit

And many did not believe that the town was taken.

Duc, more than once already took.

[mag nit]

Artsakh is independent. What does Pashanyan have to do with it?

[Artavazdych]

Wait, there might be something wrong here. Information from the Armenian side about the surrender of Shushi came from the press secretary of the NKR President from the Facebook page. Such statements are always made by either the president or the commander.
The confirmation was repeated, but again from the same source.
Shusha in Azeri videos (a few seconds) is absolutely empty. How this can be is not clear. This is a dominant area, it cannot be empty!
Yes, yesterday the Azeris were drilled with a drill, they were given 100% a loading dose of pills, this is now standard practice even for NATO members. And after such pills, you need to come to your senses for at least a day.
Information on the Armenian channels is completely absent. Pegov in Moscow, he is charged with a term for stealing money from some bank in hell knows what year.
In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.

[parusnik]

In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.

... What is not clear here, the two Caucasian peoples are slaughtering each other, like the Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda.

[MIG_2]

Armenians, and Azerbaijanis are not Caucasian peoples

[Nagaibak]

MIG_2 "Armenians, and Azerbaijanis are not Caucasian peoples."
Correctly they are the Transcaucasian peoples.))) With a Caucasian type of face.)))

[Reptiloid]

Quote: parusnik

In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.

... What is not clear here, the two Caucasian peoples are slaughtering each other, like the Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda.

Two former Soviet republics, fighting to the death with hatred.

[Lexus]

Dmitriy ,
I also do not understand how you can "savor" it.

[Reptiloid]

Alexey! I do not understand a lot of things in all this. Both in emotions and in that, Armenia is farther from Russia. For example, 5-6 years ago there were many Armenians here on the site, participating in discussions. They are about different joint projects ..... You see how the tone has changed.

[Lexus]

Therefore, this "peacekeeping" will surely come out "sideways" for Russia.
It is not just that there were no other people willing to "breed sheep".

[Reptiloid]

.....sideways.....

there is nothing to say. These "sides" are from all sides and there are more and more of them. But post-Soviet history is 30 years old.
This is all a continuation of the destruction of the USSR.

[Lexus]

For this "thread" and will pull until there is absolutely nothing left.

[Reptiloid]

It seems to me that many people think: the USSR collapsed. And I think that there is still a lot of good left from the USSR! Free medicine is decreasing --- this is the destruction of the USSR. Rises in price of rent and food - this is the destruction of the USSR. And such examples can be extended.

[Lexus]

That is why the "power" is speeding up efforts to "eradicate" the latter.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: lexus

That is why the "power" is speeding up efforts to "eradicate" the latter.

There is a lot more in different areas of life. For 30 years there has been an active destruction of the USSR, but preparations for this have been going on for a long time. For example, on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, the famous botanist and linguist Alexander Mikhailovich Kondratov wrote the poem "A reproach to the deadline", in the style of a palindrome. It is surprising that he was not subjected to this, but on the contrary, after that his books on atlantology and linguistics began to be published. And this poem was published in the early 1990s! When I found out, I thought that in the 50th anniversary of October the nomenklatura began to surrender to the USSR.

[Turanov]

Quote: Artavazdych

Information on the Armenian channels is completely absent. Pegov in Moscow, he is charged with a term for stealing money from some bank in hell knows what year.
In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.

The media are not ours, that's the problem ..On all open spaces, only Azerbaijani videos are victorious ..
All this is strange! It seems that everything is being blocked and "public opinion" is leading to something very serious that is not in Russia's favor .. It is not for nothing that the Internet is flooded with very aggressive comments and videos
The next Donbass?

[Artavazdych]

The next Donbass?

99%

[Turanov]

Quote: Artavazdych

The next Donbass?

99%

53% .. This is not Karabakh for them! They have been preparing there for a long time .. And the militias will trample the professionals with their weapons at gunpoint!

[Vadim237]

Yes, you can not cringe - the fact remains that you have pissed away everything that is possible and so ineptly that it will appear in the textbooks of warfare in a separate heading "War humor" and the section "They come - this is when they retreat"

[Turanov]

Quote: Vadim237

Yes, you can not cringe - the fact remains that you have pissed away everything that is possible and so ineptly that it will appear in the textbooks of warfare in a separate heading "War humor" and the section "They come - this is when they retreat"

Vadik and people like you rejoice early ..Russia is concentrating, and this is very dangerous for people like you .. Do not lead to sin, you yourself run up .. Do you think you are so elusive on the internet here pouring dirt on us in Russia?

[Vadim237]

I am invulnerable to you, and yes, I am for Azerbaijan as an importer of our products worth hundreds of millions of rubles a year. . "Russia is concentrating, and this is very dangerous for people like you." Where is it concentrating and how is it very dangerous for me in Russia? You advice - stop composting brains.

[Turanov]

Quote: Vadim237

I am invulnerable to you, and yes, I am for Azerbaijan as an importer of our products worth hundreds of millions of rubles a year.

Jew? understandable then .. Hundreds of millions who kill? So I would write that from Israel, otherwise you are always quiet here without flags ..
You can do anything, but Russia is not Well, brag about your invulnerability, etc.
Russia also has a lot of products for export ... and those who want to buy for billions And even for shekels)))

[Artavazdych]

The people of Karabakh have already done the impossible. 43 days of defense by an army of 35-40 thousand with weapons of the 20th century against a 150 thousand army with the latest types of weapons and unlimited human resources.
And while at least one soldier is shooting, the war is not yet lost !!!

[opuonmed]

Congratulations to Azerbaijan and Turks! we are waiting for the Turet Inhatebs in the Caucasus and within the Russian Federation!

[Turanov]

Quote: opuonmed

Congratulations to Azerbaijan and Turks! we are waiting for the Turet Inhatebs in the Caucasus and within the Russian Federation!

Please pay attention to this .. ALL! So that they don't complain about us later.

[Vadim237]

"We are waiting for the Turet Inhatebs" You can wait until you turn blue - you can't wait for the borders to be closed and the FSB is not eating its bread for nothing.

[opuonmed]

who am I that the Turks took revenge on Azerbaijan ((and from there they will send it as it is not sad

[Artavazdych]

the border with Azerbaijan is open. Visa-free regime! Aliev is a friend

[Turanov]

Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power there will be nothing good, his goal is to involve Russia and fade himself .. Biden and those who are behind him, I think, are happy! Oh, Armenia, you have warmed a snake on your chest.

[NTD]

Quote: Turanov

Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power nothing good, his goal is to drag Russia in and fade himself ..

Well, then, is the Armenian people a shame? The Armenians chose him. People.

[Turanov]

Quote: MTN

Well, then, is the Armenian people a shame? The Armenians chose him. People.

Yes, we know how this is all chosen, there was actually a coup, and everyone knows who is behind it ..
And the most interesting thing, after a while the assault on Karabakh began ..! A coincidence? I don’t think ..
By the way, Putin personally asked Pashinyan not to jail Kacherian, but he did it in spite and with a smile ..

[NTD]

Quote: Turanov

By the way, Putin personally asked Pashinyan not to jail Kacherian, but he did it in spite and with a smile ..

And Kocharian and the representative from Armenia to the CSTO (pro-Russian general) and love with the West and so on ... There is mistake after mistake, sin after sin.

[hydro]

Pashinyan resigned ...

[t-12]

Everything? Task completed? May I go to rest?

[karima]

Quote: Turanov

Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power there will be nothing good, his goal is to involve Russia and fade himself .. Biden and those who are behind him, I think, are happy! Oh, Armenia, you have warmed a snake on your chest.

Well, yes, Pashinyan ran from ballot box to ballot box and voted for himself? It was the common choice of the Armenian people - what they fought for ...

[Turanov]

Quote: karima

Well, yes, Pashinyan ran from ballot box to ballot box and voted for himself? It was the common choice of the Armenian people - what they fought for.

Well, then Pashinyan in camouflage ran and yelled "Russia out." Now in a suit and so quiet)))))

Who do you think proves to this Pashinyan and who is the effeminate guy doing there?

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Turanov

Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power there will be nothing good, his goal is to involve Russia and fade himself .. Biden and those who are behind him, I think, are happy! Oh, Armenia, you have warmed a snake on your chest.

Damn, Biden got to do with it? Pashenyan was elected under Trump. Have you been sleeping for four years?

[Turanov]

Quote: Beringovsky

Damn, Biden got to do with it? Pashenyan was elected under Trump. Have you been sleeping for four years?

The United States is not Trump and Biden is not ruling, there are other forces ... Russia is still weak and we do not want to fight, even for another 10 years at least .. Of course, we understand that none of the world fights can do without the Russians, but let us at least recover a little ... After the 90s, the losses were huge, everything was handed out and we were still kicked and cut for this ... Give time and the whole world will rage again !!!
We do not want war, but we can kill anyone if we are driven into a corner by persecution.

[Cron]

We have merged Karabakh in one word. For so many years it was possible to organize a more or less sane defense. It is a pity for those who were sent to create the appearance of resistance and senseless death.

In my opinion, the minimum task was to drain Karabakh. The task is to draw Russia into this as much as possible.
I don't know what their goal is, but judging by the anti-Russian policy that was pursued there, the squeezing of the Russian Federation from the region will continue. Azerbaijan will no longer have territorial disputes, which will allow them to apply for NATO membership.
And in Armenia, anti-Russian sentiments will be fueled, which may entail the withdrawal from the CSTO and the liquidation of the base in Gyumri. And now two states, one people, will become practically a single country, with a satellite represented by Armenia.
So much for NATO in the Caspian. Here is a new problem for Iran with Russia.
They got involved, it would be bad, didn't get involved, also not very much. And all because we always only react to emerging problems, and do not try to act proactively.

We restored territorial integrity in Azerbaijan. Now we need to restore it in Syria.

[parusnik]

In my opinion

I don’t know about the others, but I agree with your opinion. Armenia does not lose anything in the course of this conflict, from the word at all. Yes, the task, to involve Russia in the war has failed. It’s not a problem. But the rest of the tasks have been solved. Azerbaijan is under Turkish supervision. Iran has problems. ...

[Turanov]

Quote: parusnik

Yes, the task of dragging Russia into the war failed. It’s not a problem. But the rest of the tasks have been solved. Azerbaijan is under Turkish supervision. Iran has problems.

That's just that Iran has problems (probably this was the main goal), Russia will also soon begin on all fronts, already in Syria as well .. (Bandera's people began to stir, Georgians, etc.)
The plan "anaconda" is working, according to the cunning .. Shah called Putin.
War really smells

[Keyser soze]

Azerbaijan will no longer have territorial disputes, which will allow them to apply for NATO membership.

Hahahahhhh .... Azerbaijan is in NATO ?! Yes, no one will let these Turkish vassals into NATO - why do Americans need a manual bashibozuk Edik in the house? And the French? And the Greeks?

They will build Turan on the ruins of the USSR and they are done.

[syndicalist]

Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.

[opuonmed]

Quote: syndicalist

Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.

RF is a great current for the internal user, but for the whole world they shit and shit on the RF, and Putin himself said that he was used to his colleagues smearing him and he did not need the CIS, but he didn’t think the current was great, as it were, to stay in power! what he promised for many years what he did, write!

[Moskovit]

The Armenians have not been mentioned before. Now they don't have Karabakh. Further ignoring can lead to loss of independence.
Azerbaijan understands very well that it has achieved its successes thanks to Russia's neutrality. Otherwise, the north wind could blow all the drones back.

[sustav75]

And how long will Putin "teach" Armenia? Doesn't he allow his "friend" Erdogash a lot! The stirring of the Turkic peoples will not sleep out the sun-face? Putin is not forever! Turks are waiting for the moments ...

[t-12]

Further ignoring can lead to loss of independence.

Armenia has no strength for independence.

[karima]

Quote: Moskovit

thanks to Russia's neutrality

Very true on the one hand

he achieved his success

On the other hand
Why did Russia have to do something differently?

[Fungus]

Aliyev and Pashinyan are also mentioned every day. And they call up every other day with Putin. What kind of zero are we talking about?

[Turanov]

Quote: syndicalist

Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.

Do not provoke, we know people like you are online ..

[Keyser soze]

Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.

Well, Azerbaijanis, Turks and Jewish bombs have ground your "ally" in the CSTO to zero. With you, being an ally, traveling companion, situational ally, or anything else means being completely inadequate. The only real force in this world is the Americans. Everything. Both the Greeks and us and all who have a potential enemy Turkey need to be stuffed with American weapons and American bases. It's good that the economy and money are there, and our military and politicians will certainly make their analyzes of the war between Armenia and Turkey.

[Pavlos Melas]

Both the Greeks and us and all who have a potential enemy Turkey need to be stuffed with American weapons and American bases.

Greece and Bulgaria need to buy weapons from everywhere, create their own military-industrial complex and create military alliances. Also, we have to figure out with the northern and you with the inadequate western neighbor so that we don’t have any surprises

[Renator]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

.Also we with the northern and you and the western inadequate neighbor to figure out that would not present surprises

What are you afraid of from Macedonia?

[Pavlos Melas]

What are you afraid of from Macedonia?

Ay yay yay Metin, you know the history of this region both in Bulgarian and Turkish, you can draw from two sources. In addition, you can see the statement of both Bulgarian and Turkish politicians on the Prespen Agreement. Bulgarian especially right-wing politicians were not happy, and Cavusoglu declared all kinds of support North Macedonia in his message, of course, just Macedonia (he is faithful to neo-Ottoman principles). In general, it is a fact that you are trying to tighten the ring around Greece. So even a small state with your support can be a threat. I am not for overestimating the enemy, but I would not underestimate him either.

[sustav75]

ABOUT! People on this site began to open their eyes! And they are not even minus! I noticed and began to scold the zeroed one more! And again the plus signs! Where did the regulars go? Where is 74% overdue? Straight marvelous!

[Turanov]

Quote: sustav75

ABOUT! People on this site began to open their eyes! And they are not even minus! I noticed and began to scold the zeroed one more! And again the plus signs! Where did the regulars go? Where is 74% overdue? Straight marvelous!

Ask Israel for Biden too.
I slapped you a minus from the whole Russian soul and the Armenian people too ..

[sustav75]

In! One got out! And where is uryayaya? Putin's cunning plan! Punish the Armenians! And then forgive everyone, reconcile and take with open arms to the CSTO! And even Turkey! And where does the open enemy of Russia, Biden and the secretive enemy of everything Russian, Israel? You have some kind of mania ...

[Viktor Sergeev]

Azerbaijanis are great.

[Cron]

Quote: parusnik

One thing is clear, Karabakh, now does not see autonomy as its own ears. And in order to admire their own ears in the mirror, the Karabakh Armenians need to collect things so that others do not admire their ears.

What kind of scum is it that needs to be brought up so that it goes to cut off someone's ears, or other parts of the body? For what? What's the point? Does it give any pleasure to you all? At first I thought that these were some isolated cases. No, quite a lot of this has been uploaded to the network, and how many are we not seeing yet? So also in the comments, many write about this, clearly approving all this ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Cron

What kind of scum is it that needs to be brought up so that it goes to cut off someone's ears, or other parts of the body? For what? What's the point? Does it give any pleasure to you all? At first I thought that these were some isolated cases

In 1990, this happened in the Kyrgyz SSR, "Osh events", ears were lying on the ground, if you are curious, raise the chronicle of that time and the recollections of eyewitnesses. and the upbringing was Soviet.

[t-12]

For what? What's the point?

The point is to dehumanize a defeated enemy. Show that this is not a person, but a beast, which can be slaughtered calmly and with impunity.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Armenians confirm the surrender of Shushi:

Press Secretary of the President of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Vahram Poghosyan stated that the city of Shushi is completely outside the control of the Karabakh forces.

"Today, unfortunately, we must admit that we are still accompanied by a series of failures and the city of Shushi is completely out of our control. All the encouraging and inspiring propaganda theses give us nothing but a detachment from the sense of reality," Poghosyan wrote on Facebook. .... No destruction. The Armenians simply surrendered the city. I have a feeling that this war is one complete fake.  The enemy is on the outskirts of Stepanakert, and its existence is already under threat, "he wrote.

 

[Gennady Fomkin]

Moneylenders are always to blame, now they definitely won't see mortgage payments 

Force majeure and all questions to Erdogan

[Gennady Fomkin]

Armenian patriots nowadays do not control themselves, they are obliged to go to the slaughter. This is their fate, karma, destiny. All international treaties can be thrown into the trash along with the UN itself, if someone does not understand.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Keyser Soze

How the bashibozuku managed to profuse such positions is unclear. Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight. In this city, the battalion could comfortably fight for a week.

And what did you expect that the eared man with a grenade would rush under the tank? Russia twisted the big-eared fig and did not appear.

[maktub]

The Military Observer has just arrived at the military observer ️Airat Gibatdinov, the Deputy Chairman of the Legislative Assembly of the Ulyanovsk Region, posted on his Instagram footage of how he claims that the Russian military was sent to Nagorno-Karabakh.

The video was posted 10 hours ago, which means 9-10 am Moscow time.
#Russia

@new_militarycolumnist

[Radical]

Quote: MTN

Quote: Tank Hard

When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

Do you think Aliyev should be given an order for his service? )))

The order will be given to him at the US Embassy, ​​and yours - if only by a closed decree of Brother Janissary.

[Cron]

If someone Armenian has doubts about staying in Karabakh or not, just look at the story of Safarov, who hacked to death an Armenian serviceman in Europe with an ax, at NATO courses. And how Aliyev freed him from punishment, raised him in rank and presented him with all sorts of buns, in the form of a house, etc.
Yes, someone will get something and they will be allowed to live in peace, after all, a picture is needed for the Organization of Concerned Nations, but it's not worth it ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

So they swore that they would fight for every house, but they would not surrender. 

And so much dirt was poured on the Russians!

pysy 
I don't understand how such nationalities put themselves on the same level with the Russians.  
Azeris are at least not as talkative as "Armenian radio."


pysy2
I do not accept anyone's side of the conflict. .... Sorry. Now all this gopota will run to Russia. 

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Azeris are at least not as talkative as "Armenian radio."
 

Not here on VO. Here bots from Azerbaijan are like fleas on a stray dog, and they are very talkative. It seems that the site has become the property of Aliyev.

I do not accept anyone's side of the conflict. .... Sorry. Now all this gopota will run to Russia.

They are already here, all these 30 years, and on both sides. Traders.

[Alien From]

Nikola hurried to lick Biden, put on his people ...

[Old tanker]

The traitor of the Armenian people initially leaked Karabakh. Very similar to the Iraqi generals in 2003. At the lower echelon, fighters and commanders perished for their Motherland, and at the top echelon everything had been sold long ago.
Pashinyan does not need Karabakh, well, and you will see, the Armenians will forgive him for his surrender.

[karima]

Quote: Old Tankman

Traitor to the Armenian people

Suddenly he is a traitor. Didn't young and old voted for him? So stupid or what? His words were not in an empty place, he knew what to say.

[Operator]

Sorosyatnik Pashinyan leaked Karabakh, Armenia is next.

[Asadbek]

Better Pashinyan to congratulate Aliyev for taking
Shushi city

[maiman61]

Ask Aliyev to award Pashinyan with the order for surrendering Karabakh! This will "please" the Armenians not only in Armenia, but also the Diaspora of Armenians all over the world!

[Cron]

Quote: MIG_2

safars killed a war criminal, not civilians as the Armenians did

Look how it turns out, but what war criminals were killed in Sumgait and Baku?

[Bear]

Azerbaijanis are winning, and it's so clear. Armenians are trying, but from the press materials they have armies of different decades with the Azeris :(

[Dimon71]

Gaze newspaper writes that a Russian helicopter was shot down over Armenia. The shot supposedly came from Nakhichevan !!!

[hydro]

Yes they are already fucking bastards

[USSR 1970]

This information is not yet confirmed!
The Facebook press secretary was hacked.
Therefore, we can assume that there are still battles for this city.
I understand the Azerbaijanis and Aliyev, but perhaps they were too hasty with the statement.
So it was already.

[Ham]

all who cheat against Russia are losing territory ...
exchange of Idlib for Karabakh? We are quite happy with this ... that's why they are pawns to exchange them;) and the stupid Nikolka can continue to lick the biden

[Cron]

Quote: USSR 1970

This information is not yet confirmed!
The Facebook press secretary was hacked.
Therefore, we can assume that there are still battles for this city.
I understand the Azerbaijanis and Aliyev, but perhaps they were too hasty with the statement.
So it was already.

No, he has already confirmed that there was no break-in. This is his record

[Dikson]

And in the news they write about the downed Russian turntable in Armenia ... like it flew into it from the direction of Nakhichevan ... and nothing else, except for a photo of the burned side from it is not clear where ... (

[Old tanker]

Another Armenian provocation to drag Russia into the war.

[Dikson]

Even if it is a provocation - sorry, the crew died, the people on board .. actually, our people ... In any case, Russia is a loser. Erdogan and the United States came up with an excellent fork .. If you get in, you will quarrel with both Turkey and Azerbaijan, if you give a reason for new sanctions and the introduction of NATO peacekeepers, you will not get into a fight - instead of our base in Armenia there will be an American one .. Everywhere there is a wedge .. but Lavrov is good humorist, huh? ..

[Cron]

Quote: Dimon71

Gaze newspaper writes that a Russian helicopter was shot down over Armenia. The shot supposedly came from Nakhichevan !!!

If this is true, then either everything within a radius of several kilometers from where the attack was carried out should be destroyed, or Russia can be spit endlessly.

[Dikson]

no one will even express concern .. most likely. the situation is not the same. If only the special forces will work quietly .. ((

[rusich]

And what else was there to expect from the Soros. Surrendered Karabakh

[Old tanker]

Something has significantly decreased the activity of Armenian bots on the site. Looks like they are enthusiastically repairing the meat grinder together with Pegov.

[maiman61]

I look forward to the anti-Russian demonstrations with the burning of the flag in Armenia! Russians out of Armenia, invaders, take out your base! What are you such brakes! Impudent Russians dared not to fight for Great Armenia!

[Cottager452]

Or maybe they are waiting for the Turkish ambassador and the opening of the border with Turkey?

[Cron]

Quote: Dikson

And in the news they write about the downed Russian turntable in Armenia ... like it flew into it from the direction of Nakhichevan ... and nothing else, except for a photo of the burned side from it is not clear where ... (

The Ministry of Defense confirmed this information. It will be hot now, or not ...

[maiman61]

What heat? We need to see who benefits from it! Azerbaijan is not profitable for a stop! They don't even come close to the Armenian border, so as not to have problems. Beneficial ONLY for Armenia or Turkish scumbags.

[Cron]

Quote: maiman61

What heat? We need to see who benefits from it! Azerbaijan is not profitable for a stop! They don't even come close to the Armenian border, so as not to have problems. Beneficial ONLY for Armenia or Turkish scumbags.

You missed everything. Azerbaijan has already admitted its guilt

[maiman61]

I didn't miss EVERYTHING! Azerbaijan admitted its guilt, shot down by mistake, earlier Russian helicopters did not fly here! And next to it are their troops, at which the Armenians shoot from their territory. Probably they thought that the Armenian helicopter from its territory would hit the Azerbaijani troops and wash away.

[Alexander Kopychev]

In a difficult time, the USSR directly spoke in the steel voice of Levitan: "After heavy and bloody battles, our troops left ..." Severe, but TRUTH! Today, the Internet "media" for the second day, the brains of the optimistic LIE! And what is it like for the Armenians now, after the collapse of hopes? As, Pashinyan ??? While the tail is wagging the dog, don't believe the good news !!!

[faterdom]

Quote: Dikson

And in the news they write about the downed Russian turntable in Armenia ... like it flew into it from the direction of Nakhichevan ... and nothing else, except for a photo of the burned side from it is not clear where ... (

And who benefits? Is it really Aliyev?
Or to Pashinyan’s owners?
We need to understand it in detail.
But then be sure to punish.
Be it Turkey, Armenia, Kurds, Azerbaijanis, or the CIA in general (that’s possible).
There is experience when dozens of high-ranking CIA and Mossad specialists with sponsored barmalei left this vale of sorrow simultaneously and ahead of schedule.
There was enough respect for a couple of years.

[Cottager452]

It doesn’t matter who shot it down, it matters who benefits. That’s where the demand comes from.

[Stavros]

The Armenians did not leave Shushi, so there is no point in spreading fake news.

[Vadim237]

“The Armenians did not leave Shushi” For those living in a parallel universe - only the corpses of the Armenians remained there; all the living fled from there. This awaits all of Karabakh. Alas.

[Livonetc]

Why, alas.
Armenia has not even recognized the NKR for three decades.
So Azerbaijan will only suppress the separatists and restore state sovereignty over Karabakh de facto.
De jure, it was already recognized by everyone as Azerbaijan.

[Vadim237]

Now the Azerbaijanis will take all of Karabakh - the new official border will be recognized by all the UN except Armenia alone, which everyone will give a damn about

[TatarinSSSR]

All this is a multi-step process, you know who...

[7,62x54]

Nicolas will congratulate anyone who shouts louder about his victory in the elections. After all, at stake is an apartment in the states, where he will flee after Karabakh is drained.

[Alexey from Perm]

I think it's time for him to pack his bags...

[Vladimir61]

Shushi over Stepanokert, everything is in full view... When will the Armenians understand that Pashinyan and those who bet on him are to blame for everything. When will the ground burn under their feet? Now, only a change of power in Armenia can decide the future fate of Karabakh.

[karima]

Quote: Vladimir61

When will the Armenians understand that Pashinyan is to blame for everything?

Was it not the Armenians who chose him?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Pashinyan is the chairman. They put him in place so that he would be the one to blame for everyone.

Chamber pot. Now or in a couple of months, they will take him out where he should be. The President will remain, all the other Sorovites will remain. And there are many Pashinyans, they will change them like cowards.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: maiman61

I look forward to the anti-Russian demonstrations with the burning of the flag in Armenia! Russians out of Armenia, invaders, take out your base! What are you such brakes! Impudent Russians dared not to fight for Great Armenia!

17 parties demand Pashinyan’s resignation: http://politik.am/am/17-qaxaqakan-uzher-pahanjum-en-nikol-pashinyani-ev-karavarutyan-hrazharakany-haytararutyun Pandu Pashinyan - get out!

[Ryaruav]

Pashinyan is Kolya Zelensky, how many times has this already happened in history

[Zomanus]

The Azerbaijanis, with the support of the Turks, are more motivated than the Armenians, whose president was installed by the Americans. That's probably why we don't interfere.

[Russian2020]

Thank you Papa Joe for winning Karabakh

[VyacheSeymour]

OK it's all over Now ! Logical conclusion!
An agreement on the withdrawal of troops from Karabakh was signed...
A curtain !
A curtain ?...
- No ! -The drama continues.....-Armenia is entering a chaos of instability and chaos! -What’s worse than signed
capitulation..- that's it, -Ales...Fenita...

[Alexey from Perm]

Yes, everyone already understands that Armenia lost to Azerbaijan. Dot.