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Shushi surrendered, the Azerbaijani army is on the outskirts of Stepanakert, and Pashinyan sends congratulations to Biden

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After appearing on the streets of Shushi, the advanced detachments of the Azerbaijani army are separated from the capital of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, Stepanakert, some 15 km.


Despite the fact that in the vicinity of Shushi (the resident population in 2019 was 4,3 thousand people), fighting continues, including in the Karin Taka region (south of Shushi), the resistance of the Armenian troops does not look systematic and effectively organized.

Armenian troops demonstrate centers of activity in the area of ​​the aforementioned Karin Tak, as well as in the direction from Shushi to Berdzor (Lachin), striking the clusters of Azerbaijani wars, but judging by the development of recent events, they did not have a real line of defense. and no.


In such a situation, Stepanakert may repeat the fate of Shushi, at least in the sense that the battles may well move to its immediate outskirts. According to some reports, special forces and DRG detachments of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are already on the outskirts of the capital of Karabakh.

In such a situation, what does Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan say to the Armenian people, who until recently "ironically" stood on the position that Nagorno-Karabakh is Armenian? What does he publish on his pages in social networks against the background of Azerbaijani shots from Shushi? Perhaps he makes an appeal to citizens to organize resistance in the unrecognized NKR? But no ... The latest publication, made on the official website of the Armenian Prime Minister, informs the public about the congratulations that Nikol Pashinyan sent to Joe Biden. The latest publication on Pashinyan's Facebook page is dated November 3, and shows a captured person who calls himself a native of Syria.

It turns out that the current head of the government of the Republic of Armenia is currently more concerned not with Nagorno-Karabakh and the remaining Armenian population, but with Biden's political prospects in the United States.

Against this background, the press secretary of the president of unrecognized Artsakh Vahram Poghosyan confirmed that the record he made about the loss of Shushi is genuine. Poghosyan wrote on the social network that one must admit the fact: Shushi remained outside the control of the Armenian forces. According to Poghosyan, this is the truth, which he wrote, and the statements about the alleged hacking of his page have nothing to do with reality.
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  1. RUSS
    RUSS 9 November 2020 17: 56 New
    +6
    Smells like an agreement.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 9 November 2020 17: 59 New
      +4
      Have you sold Shushi?
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 06 New
        33
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Have you sold Shushi?

        When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.
        1. MTN
          MTN 9 November 2020 18: 37 New
          +7
          Quote: Tank Hard
          When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

          Do you think Aliyev should be given an order for his service? )))
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 38 New
            18
            Quote: MTN
            Do you think Aliyev should be given an order for his service?

            Definitely, he served. hi By the way, it would be level 100+ trolling. laughing
            1. MTN
              MTN 9 November 2020 19: 12 New
              -1
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Definitely, he served. By the way, it would be level 100+ trolling.

              I agree)))))))) laughing
            2. Otshelnik
              Otshelnik 9 November 2020 19: 38 New
              +1
              Damn, as I imagined, I drove off ..)))))
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 9 November 2020 19: 39 New
                -1
                Quote: Otshelnik
                Damn, as I imagined, I drove off.

                Good trolling is an art. wink
                1. MTN
                  MTN 9 November 2020 20: 02 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Good trolling is an art.

                  In the photo, Pashinyan's face is the same as if he received such an order)))

                  Congratulations, this is for your service to the fatherland lol
          2. Thrifty
            Thrifty 9 November 2020 19: 59 New
            +2
            An MTN order must be issued in the name of Pashinyan, not an order!
            1. MTN
              MTN 9 November 2020 20: 28 New
              -3
              Quote: Thrifty
              MTN order must be issued in the name of Pashinyan, not an order

              I thought you were Russian. It is the order that needs to be issued (medal) for good service.
              1. bobba94
                bobba94 9 November 2020 20: 36 New
                +4
                He is Russian, do not hesitate. When they talk about issuing a warrant for someone, a Russian person immediately understands what kind of warrant they are talking about ..... an arrest warrant.
                1. bycharashkO
                  bycharashkO 10 November 2020 06: 28 New
                  0
                  maybe a warrant .. for an apartment in Baku?
              2. Thrifty
                Thrifty 9 November 2020 21: 18 New
                +1
                MTN -you are not mistaken, I am really Russian, I live in Rostov-on-Don, will it suit? ??
        2. Lesorub
          Lesorub 9 November 2020 22: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Have you sold Shushi?

          When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

          Poshanyan, just like Gorbachev - after all the dirty tricks - will leave for the states to write his memoirs about democracy.
        3. Terenin
          Terenin 9 November 2020 23: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Have you sold Shushi?

          When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

          Yes, it was not the people of Armenia that lost Karabakh, but the leadership of Armenia, which failed to unite its people and unite.
          In 1992-1994 there was a completely different war, now a different century, different technologies ... In my opinion, the Armenians defended Karabakh in 1994 due to tremendous courage, dedication and dedication. This is what they lacked now. Not all Armenians understood the seriousness of the situation, especially those living in Russia and abroad.
          And if our 102nd base had not been in Gyumri, and Russian border guards would not have stood on the border with Karabakh, it’s scary to imagine, but the Azerbaijanis would most likely have reached Yerevan.
          No offense, this is my personal point of view hi
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 10 November 2020 05: 31 New
            +3
            Quote: Terenin

            Yes, it was not the people of Armenia that lost Karabakh, but the leadership of Armenia, which

            ... which was brought to power by the people of Armenia.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 10 November 2020 17: 56 New
              +3
              Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Quote: Terenin

              Yes, it was not the people of Armenia that lost Karabakh, but the leadership of Armenia, which

              ... which was brought to power by the people of Armenia.

              That's for sure yes
          2. bobba94
            bobba94 10 November 2020 11: 53 New
            0
            I read a lot of materials on the Karabakh conflict and became convinced of the correctness of Azerbaijan. Under the Union, the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region was part of the AzSSR. The area of ​​the NKAO was 4,4 thousand square meters. km, lived in it about 100 thousand Armenians and about 40 thousand Azerbaijanis. The union collapsed, conflicts began and here the Armenians created the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, the area of ​​which was already 11,5 thousand square meters. km., that is, 7 thousand sq. km. It turns out, on the sly, the Armenians seized the primordially Azerbaijani lands, several regions, where about 98,7% of Azerbaijanis and only 1,3% of Armenians always lived. After the seizure of these lands, 500 thousand Azerbaijanis became refugees, they were simply expelled. I am not for whites and not for reds .... I am for objectivity. Russian, Kursk region
            1. Flavius
              Flavius 14 November 2020 15: 56 New
              0
              Why are you lying, reader? How can there be 500 thousand refugees, if during the peaceful period 168 thousand Azerbaijanis lived in Armenia in 1988? And not all of them went to the AzSSR! You don't even read the official figures of your country, they even say lies more adequate numbers are called.

              Although, if you listen to them, 30 thousand Armenians still live with them (Aliev). View census data -673 people and then from mixed marriages!

              500 thousand is the number of Armenian refugees - that is how many Armenians lived in the Azerbaijan SSR. And now the figure is close to zero! And that's not counting other refugees and internally displaced persons: Greeks, Assyrians, Russians, Georgians, etc.
      2. Cosm22
        Cosm22 9 November 2020 18: 12 New
        +9
        What have they sold?
        It was clear to any adequate person a week after the start of the campaign that neither Stepanakert nor Karabakh in general could be held by the Armenians.
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 10 November 2020 15: 12 New
          0
          If they could seriously hold it, they would buy the air defense, they would use the same Iskander on the local command of AZ, they beat them from the hills on the technique, if they could seriously approach this, this speech did not even push him to give a damn about everything.
          And no one was preparing for war there, almost all equipment of the 70s.
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 9 November 2020 18: 41 New
        +6
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Have you sold Shushi?

        Sold, handed over, exchanged ...
        Yes, Azerbaijanis will not be offended by me, but how easy Armenia is to let go of Karabakh
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 9 November 2020 18: 55 New
          16
          Quote: RUSS
          Yes, Azerbaijanis will not be offended by me, but how easy Armenia is to let go of Karabakh

          So what? All one thing will say Russia is to blame.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 10 November 2020 04: 34 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            So what? All one thing will say Russia is to blame.

            And the Jews, how can we do without them?
          2. Walking
            Walking 10 November 2020 04: 40 New
            0
            Yes, the Armenians already say that Russia is to blame. Didn't protect.
          3. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 10 November 2020 10: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            So what? All one thing will say Russia is to blame.

            Even at the very beginning of the conflict, expert Hakobyan expressed the idea that Soros planned this cunning and bloody combination with a clear outcome in advance - the loss of Karabakh for Armenia forever, and Pashinyan began to implement it. What is its meaning? The belligerent Pashinyan was supposed to provoke Aliyev to decisively oppose Artsakh / Karabakh and try to involve Russia in the conflict (defense of a CSTO member!). If Russia intervened and helped to defend Karabakh for Armenia, then it would be justified against it! - all the bumps and new sanctions would fall down, and her long-term Caucasian policy of an independent and fair arbiter would collapse. But if smart Russia did not get involved in a bloody fight, then Pashinyan would have to be accused of heartlessness and indifference to the Armenian people, disperse Russophobic sentiments in Armenia and on this wave "lead to the West" Armenia, forever torn away from Russia. Is Hakobyan correct in his assumptions? I do not know. But so far everything is going according to the scenario described by him. Unless Pashinyan manages to strongly shake Russophobia and the Armenians are not opposed to Russia, but against Pashinyan himself. Let's watch how it all ends.
        2. MTN
          MTN 9 November 2020 19: 20 New
          17
          Quote: RUSS
          Yes, Azerbaijanis will not be offended by me, but how easy Armenia is to let go of Karabakh

          Dear, they lost because they were not ready for this not politically, not materially, not technically, not strategically or even diplomatically.

          Sold or exchanged, it's all nonsense. Their political mistake was that they flooded against Russia, against the guarantor of their security. War is money and they have money to wage a long and tough war. And their military equipment is of the old model, which is not capable of efficiently waging a fight against modern weapons, plus the war strategy of the 20th century is fundamentally different from the 21st century.

          Now, they need a lot of money to restore the Army, both technically and human resources. They lost both people and equipment and land. This is a shameful loss.
          1. t-12
            t-12 9 November 2020 19: 45 New
            -6
            Their political mistake was that they flooded against Russia, against the guarantor of their security.
            And if not flooded, then what? Would Russia intervene in the war? Armenia is a poor country dependent on imports (including food), mired in debt (because it needs currency). And in Azerbaijan - oil, a lot of dough. Moreover, Turkey is helping.
            1. MTN
              MTN 9 November 2020 20: 19 New
              +6
              Quote: t-12
              And if not flooded, then what? Would Russia intervene in the war?

              In April 2016, one call from Putin was enough to stop the war. Ilham Aliyev said this openly. Don't you understand that Putin punished the Armenians with the hands of Azerbaijanis? Putin has 1000 leverage over Azerbaijan, Russia does not need to interfere in the war, just a call.

              Quote: t-12
              Moreover, Turkey is helping.

              In monetary terms, Russia helped us 10 times more. Israel is following him. On the 3rd place is Turkey, on the 4th place is Ukraine and Belarus. Please, if you speak, speak directly and honestly and fully. We paid Turkey with money for all the weapons as well as the above mentioned countries. The only thing that makes Turkey different is that it supported us in all the world's stands, as did Pakistan.
              1. t-12
                t-12 9 November 2020 20: 25 New
                -2
                I didn’t hear the conversation between Putin and Aliyev, and I don’t want to guess on the coffee grounds. Russia does not "help", but sells weapon. For money. Armenia has no money, Azerbaijan has it.
                1. MTN
                  MTN 9 November 2020 20: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: t-12
                  Russia does not "help", but sells weapons. For money. Armenia has no money, Azerbaijan has it.

                  :) Tin you frame :) Can you imagine that Turkey or Pakistan or Israel will sell weapons to Armenians?

                  I hope you get the hint ..........
                  1. t-12
                    t-12 9 November 2020 21: 01 New
                    -1
                    Israel? Yes, easily. If Armenia pays, Israel will sell any weapon. But Armenia has no money.
                    1. Revolver
                      Revolver 10 November 2020 04: 40 New
                      0
                      Quote: t-12
                      If Armenia pays, Israel will sell any weapon.

                      That is unlikely. Armenia is painfully dependent on Iran, and technology can fall into the clutches of the ayatollahs. Does Israel need it?
                      Azerbaijan and the Ayatollahs have graters, so Israel is quietly selling them. Again, according to rumors, Azerbaijan provides Jews with airfields and reconnaissance bases in close proximity to Iran, and this is also appreciated.
            2. Incvizitor
              Incvizitor 10 November 2020 15: 17 New
              0
              I would hardly have flooded it directly, but I could have thrown the shell and the UAV would have been put right away, although seeing how Shushi was drained, I still would not have dragged it.
          2. RUSS
            RUSS 9 November 2020 19: 53 New
            -2
            Quote: MTN
            Their political mistake was that they flooded against Russia

            Our President Pashinyan will not forgive him for coming to power on the wave of protests.
          3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 10 November 2020 05: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: MTN
            they lost because they weren't ready for it

            On the contrary. They will lose because they were prepared for it.
          4. Reviews
            Reviews 10 November 2020 06: 48 New
            0
            Quote: MTN
            fundamentally different

            Hmm ...
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 10 November 2020 00: 05 New
          +2
          "but how easy Armenia lets go of Karabakh" ////
          -----
          In my opinion, quite understandable. Armenian army was stunned
          overwhelming advantage of Azerbaijan in the air - drones
          literally staged a beating of equipment and soldiers.
          The morale of the Armenian soldiers fell.
          Therefore, despite the firmness of individual Armenian units near Shushi,
          the campaign ended (almost ended) with the defeat of Armenia.
      4. Old tanker
        Old tanker 9 November 2020 19: 05 New
        +2
        They sold all of Karabakh, but the men on the front line don't even know!
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 9 November 2020 19: 45 New
          -3
          Quote: Old Tankman
          They sold all of Karabakh, but the men on the front line don't even know!
          That's where the tragedy is! So many lives have been laid and still will be laid on both sides!

          REFERENCE for comparison. Karabakh and Kosovo. The initial situation is the same, but why such a different approach ?!

          These days there is a bloody process of "liberation" of Karabakh by Azerbaijan, similar to the process of "liberation" of Kosovo by Serbia.
          Yes, according to international law, the immutability of borders during the collapse of the USSR NK cannot be separated from Azerbaijan. Moreover, it was exactly the same as the autonomous region of Kosovo could not be separated from Serbia during the collapse of Yugoslavia.
          However, the "international community" demanded from Serbia to stop "liberation". When Serbia refused to obey, this very community (represented by the United States and its most active henchmen) ground down civilians in Serbia hundreds of kilometers from the conflict zone with bombs. And then about half of this very community recognized the independence of Kosovo.
          The international community is silent regarding the NKR.
          Yes, Karabakh is a recognized part of Azerbaijan on the basis of the principle of inviolability of the borders of states under "international law".
          But in the case of Kosovo, it was said: the Kosovar Albanians wanted so much to secede, fought so hard for it, suffered so badly that we will make an exception. And Kosovo is no longer part of Serbia.
          The autonomous province of Kosovo in the Serbian Republic after the collapse of Yugoslavia separated from Serbia and the independence of Kosovo was recognized by 98 states out of 193 (50%) UN members, 22 out of 27 (81%) EU member states, 26 out of 30 (87%) NATO member states , and 34 out of 57 (60%) member states of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).
          Is the mutual hatred between Armenians and Azerbaijanis less than the mutual hatred between Albanians and Serbs?

          Why DOUBLE STANDARDS? Because Turkey is a vassal of Great Britain!
          1. MTN
            MTN 9 November 2020 20: 11 New
            -4
            Quote: Tatiana
            Why DOUBLE STANDARDS? Because Turkey is a vassal of Great Britain!

            Tanya, I already asked you to cook BORSCH better than to write nonsense of Armenian authors here. You are not tired of copying from other people's sites and even Armenian authors ?????????????

            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/infojdru/karabah-i-kosovo-ishodnaia-situaciia-odinakovaia-no-pochemu-takoi-raznyi-podhod-5f7c137271c44f08295bb3bc

            You always have pro-Armenian sources and here you sing about justice.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 9 November 2020 20: 59 New
              -1
              Quote: MTN
              You always have pro-Armenian sources and here you sing about justice.

              Don't worry! I also study Azerbaijani sources.

              Meanwhile, the use of uti possidetis juris and the need to transform the former constitutional units - republics, and not autonomous regions and autonomous republics - was confirmed in practice by the Badinter Commission when considering the split of Yugoslavia and the delimitation of the territories of the six former union republics of the SFRY. The Badinter International Expert Commission in its conclusions clearly defined that only six former constitutional republics of the SFRY, and not autonomous units within these republics, have the right to secede up to the creation of an independent state within the constitutional borders of the former Soviet Yugoslavia. In the case of the USSR, one can only talk about 15 former republics, but not NKAO as part of the Republic of Azerbaijan.
              Guided by the principles and norms of international law, Azerbaijan took an absolutely objective position, offering Nagorno-Karabakh any status only in the context of the right to internal self-determination, that is, the status of autonomy.

              See details -https: //haqqin.az/news/190335
              But, firstly, after all, Aliyev ultimately refused autonomy to the Armenians of the NKR.
              And secondly, after the collapse of Yugoslavia, the autonomous province of Kosovo in the Republic of Serbia separated from Serbia and Kosovo's independence was recognized by 98 states out of 193 (50%) UN members, 22 out of 27 (81%) EU member states, 26 out of 30 (87 %) NATO member states, and 34 out of 57 (60%) member states of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).
            2. Tatyana
              Tatyana 9 November 2020 21: 42 New
              -2
              Quote: MTN
              Tanya, I already asked you to cook BORSCH better than to write nonsense of Armenian authors here.
              Do you already feel dizzy from the victory over the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh as a citizen of the AR?
              Don't tell me to cook borscht here! I'm not your servant!
              Quote: MTN
              You are not tired of copying from other people's sites and even Armenian authors ?????????????
              I write comments the way I think it is faster and from where I need it! You are not a decree to me!
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 10 November 2020 04: 47 New
            0
            Quote: Tatiana
            When Serbia refused to obey, this very community (represented by the United States and its most active henchmen) ground down civilians in Serbia hundreds of kilometers from the conflict zone with bombs.

            Well, how do you propose to do this? recourse request Drive an aircraft carrier into the Caspian Sea? No. Or to bomb Azerbaijan from Incirlik NATO base in Turkey? No.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 10 November 2020 06: 21 New
              -1
              The commentary is about the electoral policy of DOUBLE STANDARDS in the "world community" of the UN countries on their application of "international law" with regard to the recognition of the alleged invariability of state borders when the Autonomous Republics and Autonomous Regions try to secede from their state.
              One, like Kosovo, turned out to be possible "as an exception" - Kosovo was an autonomous republic in Serbia - while others were not.
              For example:
              - The independence of Transnistria from Moldova was recognized by the Russian Federation, South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
              - The independence of the Autonomous Republic of Kramskoy from Ukraine and its voluntary inclusion into the Russian Federation were recognized by only 8 states: Nicaragua, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Syria, Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, Palestine. There are no serious political "players" among these states. There is also a list of countries that conditionally recognize the Russian Crimea. The fact is that Ukraine constantly submits to the UN General Assembly a resolution on its territorial integrity, they say, the whole world needs to take measures against Russia.
              - UN states that officially recognize Abkhazia or South Ossetia as independent: Russia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Nauru, Vanuatu, Syria. Many states first recognized their independence, and then withdrew their recognition.
              - The DPR and LPR are unrecognized from Ukraine.
      5. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 10 November 2020 15: 07 New
        0
        Armenia was sold.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 9 November 2020 18: 01 New
      16
      It smacks of disorganization and collapse of the Artsakh armed forces over the past ten years.
      1. Borik
        Borik 9 November 2020 18: 18 New
        16
        And how many of those armed forces were there in the NKR? They cannot resist Azerbaijan alone. It seems that there is nowhere to wait for the help of the NKR either, Pashinyan is a state protege and it seems to him that he has no time for NKR.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 9 November 2020 19: 10 New
          +4
          With Pashinyan, everything seems to be clear.
          Where is the opposition to national salvation?
          Did you buy everyone in bulk? Silence is worth it?
          1. Otshelnik
            Otshelnik 9 November 2020 19: 39 New
            0
            Nice lunge ...
          2. t-12
            t-12 9 November 2020 19: 56 New
            +2
            And there is no opposition. And in general, there is a feeling that the Armenians do not really need Karabakh. Well, that is, historically and culturally, it may be needed, but economically and pragmatically ... Poor mountainous region, no profit from it, no investments there in 25 years, the population in 25 years dumped in Armenia and Russia.
          3. major147
            major147 9 November 2020 20: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: Alex777
            With Pashinyan, everything seems to be clear.
            Where is the opposition to national salvation?

            I have already shared my thoughts on this topic in the next thread. I will repeat myself.
            Here the situation seems to me a little different. "Comrade" Pashinyan has been tasked by his bosses to tear Armenia away from Russia and attach it to NATO, and for "good" behavior it may be in the EU. Hence the pre-war anti-Russian demonstrations with the aim of setting Russia anti-Armenian. And then a NATO member Turkey, pushed ahead the liberation of Karabakh by Azerbaijan. When the Armenians are expelled from Karabakh, Russophobic sentiments in Armenia will inflate even more and under the slogan "Russia has betrayed us! Armenia's salvation in NATO". As a result, straight there with all the consequences.
            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya 9 November 2020 20: 51 New
              0
              Fuck them in the ass! A tablecloth road, a drum on the neck and a locomotive towards.
              Quote: major147
              When the Armenians are expelled from Karabakh, Russophobic sentiments in Armenia will inflate even more and under the slogan "Russia has betrayed us! Armenia's salvation in NATO". As a result, straight there with all that it implies.

              Armenia is a poor landlocked country. Even Ukraine and Georgia were not accepted into NATO, despite the fact that they have access to the sea and have a common border with Russia. Nobody needs Armenia from the word "absolutely".
              1. major147
                major147 9 November 2020 21: 31 New
                +3
                Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                Armenia is a poor landlocked country.

                Why, then, does the West so actively "spud" them? As many as 2000 "employees" of the US Embassy.
                1. sergo1914
                  sergo1914 9 November 2020 22: 57 New
                  0
                  Quote: major147
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  Armenia is a poor landlocked country.

                  Why, then, does the West so actively "spud" them? As many as 2000 "employees" of the US Embassy.


                  Maybe just addicted to cognac? He's not bad there.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 9 November 2020 21: 31 New
              +1
              "Russia has betrayed us! The salvation of Armenia is in NATO."

              There is nothing in Armenia that would be of interest to NATO.
              There is no oil, there is not even a border with Russia.
              1. major147
                major147 9 November 2020 21: 34 New
                +2
                Quote: Alex777
                "Russia has betrayed us! The salvation of Armenia is in NATO."

                There is nothing in Armenia that would be of interest to NATO.
                There is no oil, there is not even a border with Russia.

                But there are 2000 "employees" at the US embassy and ... the border with Iran.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 9 November 2020 21: 36 New
                  0
                  Under Biden, sanctions will be lifted.
                  The EU wants this very much.
                  1. major147
                    major147 9 November 2020 21: 44 New
                    0
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Under Biden, sanctions will be lifted.

                    Here it is still necessary to live to Biden, and Trump is finally preparing a pod for Iran. There is information.
                    1. Revolver
                      Revolver 10 November 2020 04: 50 New
                      -1
                      Quote: major147
                      Trump is finally preparing a pod for Iran. There is information.

                      I would like to hope that he will succeed. And with Iran, and in the courts.
                      1. Alex777
                        Alex777 10 November 2020 08: 37 New
                        0
                        I would like to hope that he will succeed. And with Iran, and in the courts.

                        Trump will fail.
                        He surrendered everyone with whom he won.
                        And Flynn, and Tillerson, and Bannon.
                        Now they will hand it over.
                        Falsifications in favor of Biden are obvious, but disassembly is not beneficial to anyone.
                        Trump simply won't be given time to prove anything.
                        What do you personally have against Iran?
                      2. Revolver
                        Revolver 10 November 2020 08: 58 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Alex777
                        What do you personally have against Iran?

                        The regime of the allah-obsessed ayatollahs, striving for possession of nuclear weapons, is not at all what I would like to see on the map ... yes, of any region, in general on the ball. In this sense, even Kim the Third is safer, because he has at least some instinct for self-preservation, and these are not averse to making the whole country shahids, just to establish his fanatical version of Islam on the entire planet.
                      3. Alex777
                        Alex777 10 November 2020 10: 36 New
                        0
                        The regime of the ayatollahs who are obsessed with Allah ... are not averse to making the whole country shahids, just to establish their fanatical version of Islam on the entire planet.

                        Ec propaganda works on you.
                        Directly instigator of religious hatred.
                        Wasn't your ISIS States done?
                        Or do you understand the difference between Shiites and Sunnis?
                        Or did not the Sunnis / Wahhabis (according to the official version) demolish the Twins in New York?
                        Wahhabis in your opinion are safer?
                        Or is it not they who sponsored the development of nuclear weapons in Pakistan? And count on him on occasion.
                        How do you like the Saudis with nuclear weapons?
                        For that matter, Iran is catching up with Israel and the KSA in terms of nuclear weapons. Iran did not start this race.
                        It's amazing that people sometimes write!
                      4. Revolver
                        Revolver 10 November 2020 18: 38 New
                        0
                        Quote: Alex777
                        Wahhabis in your opinion are safer?

                        The same personal belongings, only in profile.
                2. Alex777
                  Alex777 10 November 2020 08: 51 New
                  0
                  https://vz.ru/world/2020/11/9/1069506.html
      2. ZAV69
        ZAV69 9 November 2020 22: 42 New
        +1
        Everything is correct. It will turn out to involve Russia in this war, great !!! It will not work, Pashinyan is pouring carbach, at home, in Armenia, he will make extreme Russia, under this sauce he will fly into NATO with a whistle.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 10 November 2020 08: 38 New
          0
          Not tired of writing nonsense?
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 November 2020 22: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Alex777
      Silence is worth it?

      The 21st century is in the yard - the Dashnak has gone wrong today.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 10 November 2020 08: 39 New
        0
        I got excited about the silence.
        It was the calm before the storm.
  2. Garris199
    Garris199 9 November 2020 19: 23 New
    +2
    It was not so little. Competent equipment, training and command of these forces would give a completely different result. Armenia actually did not prepare for this war.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 9 November 2020 22: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Garris199
      Armenia actually did not prepare for this war.

      When, historically, except for whom did she sell what she was preparing for? Read history, they even sold Byzantium. And in the last war, Russians fought on both sides
  • Megatron
    Megatron 9 November 2020 18: 38 New
    +6
    And here they even minus me, for the karabatskys.
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 9 November 2020 19: 36 New
      +6
      Shot down our helicopter. Thinking the Armenians, that would involve in the conflict, Azerbaijan does not need it. (don't scare the minus.)
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 9 November 2020 21: 39 New
        +1
        Azerbaijan has already admitted guilt.
        So think carefully.
        1. lwxx
          lwxx 9 November 2020 22: 04 New
          0
          And I think. Beneficiary Armenia. Judging by the video, there was an ambush, and outside the DB zone. Ours were framed, it is clear, who benefits? So be careful with your brains.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 10 November 2020 08: 42 New
            +2
            And I think. Beneficiary Armenia ....
            So be careful with your brains.

            lol
            Reread what I wrote to you so as not to think:
            Azerbaijan has already admitted guilt.

            Everything. There is no place to think, but there is a fact on the face.
            1. lwxx
              lwxx 10 November 2020 08: 56 New
              0
              Thinking is always useful. 1 Azerbaijan will fight to admit guilt. unlike the Turks, Iranians, etc. 2 Outside the DB zone, a helicopter was shot down, no matter whose Armenian or Russian, Armenia and Azerbaijan are not officially at war. 3 our troops brought in troops, albeit officially peacekeepers, but they save the Armenians.
    2. major147
      major147 9 November 2020 21: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Megatron
      And here they even minus me, for the karabatskys.

      + To you from me, as a victim of the soros soldier
  • Renator
    Renator 9 November 2020 21: 50 New
    -1
    Quote: RUSS
    Smells like an agreement.

    Did you think Armenians are warriors?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 10 November 2020 04: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Renator
      Quote: RUSS
      Smells like an agreement.

      Did you think Armenians are warriors?

      The chant of the 1980s sector 33 of the Kirov stadium (Zenit fan sector):
      "Ararat from Yerevan is a herd of wild monkeys !!!"
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 9 November 2020 17: 58 New
    12
    Shushi surrendered, the Azerbaijani army is on the outskirts of Stepanakert, and Pashinyan sends congratulations to Biden

    What a fine fellow! Didn't forget to congratulate! fellow
    1. 210ox
      210ox 9 November 2020 18: 02 New
      14
      Well, then! You should always have an alternate airfield.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 04 New
        13
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, then! You should always have an alternate airfield.

        Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov. hi
        1. Grits
          Grits 9 November 2020 18: 17 New
          +8
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

          No, this scum will definitely not be allowed here. Only in Omeriga
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 19 New
            +6
            Quote: Gritsa
            No, this scum will definitely not be allowed here. Only in Omeriga

            Akaev, Yanek. live, they are not better. IMHO
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 10 November 2020 07: 03 New
            0
            Quote: Gritsa
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

            No, this scum will definitely not be allowed here. Only in Omeriga

            Do we need it in America? No, to Rostov! Well, to the most extreme, to Paris. And best of all, to the native land of small but proud Armenia. And a plate on top with a sentimental inscription.
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 9 November 2020 18: 48 New
          13
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

          What do you think, the residents of Karabakh will go to restore the Armenian economy? I think they will soon be in Rostov, that in France barmaleev
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 55 New
            14
            Quote: APASUS
            What do you think, the residents of Karabakh will go to restore the Armenian economy? I think they will soon be in Rostov, that in France barmaleev

            After the first "events" between Azerbaijanis and Armenians, a significant part of the Armenian refugees settled in the Kaluga region and not in Armenia, why is that (?! wink ). I also remember the phrase that set my teeth on edge: - "Nice city of Kaluga, but there are too many Russians here." Who do you think this phrase belongs to? So it goes.. repeat
        3. vlad.baryatinsky
          vlad.baryatinsky 9 November 2020 19: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Tank Hard

          Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov

          He has his own "Rostov" in Los Angeles!
        4. major147
          major147 9 November 2020 21: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Oh, these "reserve airfield" if only not to Rostov.

          Why, from my hometown, they make some kind of "dump of history" angry
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 9 November 2020 18: 00 New
    21
    In principle, it’s a logical conclusion ... you can say war, its main phase is over ... but now Armenia and Pashinyan have no territorial disputes and she can say, Russia is adyu, Europe take me to you ...
    1. Ramadan
      Ramadan 9 November 2020 18: 13 New
      11
      Most likely this will be the game now. Offended Armenia is saying goodbye to Russia and will now ask for protection from distant America. Only where there are states there is always chaos, especially in the east and the Caucasus, and the Turchata will certainly try to take advantage of this.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: Ramazan
        Most likely this will be the game now. Offended Armenia is saying goodbye to Russia and now will ask for protection from distant America. Only where there are states there is always chaos, especially in the east and the Caucasus, and Turchata will certainly try to take advantage of this

        It remains to "love" Armenia itself, which is quite realistic with such a talented leadership. request
        1. Ramadan
          Ramadan 9 November 2020 18: 39 New
          15
          For that fought for it and ran. I support the decision of the Wagnerites, who refused to go there to fight in their place. The Armenians themselves are not particularly eager to get into this meat grinder with such a commander-in-chief. But it is of course a pity for ordinary civilians of NK, the elderly, children. To move from a habitable place to the unknown and with nothing, it's hard. However, like the Azerbaijanis at one time.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: Ramazan
            For that fought for it and ran. I support the decision of the Wagnerites, who refused to go there to fight in their place. The Armenians themselves are not particularly eager to get into this meat grinder with such a commander-in-chief. But it is of course a pity for ordinary civilians of NK, the elderly, children. To move from a habitable place to the unknown and with nothing, it's hard. However, like the Azerbaijanis at one time

            I completely agree with you. hi
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 9 November 2020 22: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Ramazan
            The Armenians themselves are not particularly eager to get into this meat grinder with such a commander-in-chief.

            Yes, at least with anyone, they are not torn. By the way, unlike the Georgians, those when the turmoil in 90 began basically left to fight. And these are at home here
            1. Ramadan
              Ramadan 10 November 2020 00: 20 New
              +1
              And apparently let go. The generation has changed, the roots have already been put in another land, and that's it, the heart doesn't call, the soul doesn't cry.
      2. Runoway
        Runoway 9 November 2020 18: 43 New
        +6
        Only where there are states there is always chaos

        Chaos primarily along our borders:
        -Estonia completed
        -Latvia completed
        -Georgia completed
        -Poland completed
        -Ukraine completed
        -Belarus load
        -Armenia load
        -Moldova load
        1. t-12
          t-12 9 November 2020 19: 57 New
          +2
          Ukraine has not been completed yet, but only delayed.
      3. major147
        major147 9 November 2020 21: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Ramazan
        Most likely this will be the game now.

        Oh, I see the hand of the Darkest One in the Karabakh turmoil.
    2. MTN
      MTN 9 November 2020 18: 38 New
      -5
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Pashinyan has no territorial disputes and she can say, Russia is adyu, Europe, take me to you ...

      It is quite possible, but how does this threaten Russia? And also how will Russia behave if the Armenians say dosvidos from Gyumri?
      1. Old tanker
        Old tanker 9 November 2020 19: 13 New
        11
        It is high time to bring our people out of Gyumri. It is not clear what our base is doing there, who is covering?
        1. t-12
          t-12 9 November 2020 20: 02 New
          +2
          She covers the Caucasus from the Turks. Well, that is, ideally should cover.
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        2. MTN
          MTN 9 November 2020 20: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Old Tankman
          It is high time to bring our people out of Gyumri. It is not clear what our base is doing there, who is covering?

          The answer to your question is hidden in the records of Peter the Great. Armenia is a royal project !!! And the ungrateful Armenians began to spit in the well from where they drank water. Punishment is what happened in Karabakh. Another trick (2nd Pashinyan), I think, will be a corridor to Nakhichevan, and then they will be completely fucked.
    3. Old tanker
      Old tanker 9 November 2020 19: 12 New
      +5
      In 2016, the first bell rang for Armenians. They drew a conclusion from it - they have greased the skis well and now they are confidently rolling from the Karabaz mountains.
    4. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 9 November 2020 19: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      now Armenia and Pashinyan have no territorial disputes and she can say, Russia is adyu, Europe, take me to you ...

      In general, the stake on Armenia as an outpost of the Russian Federation in the Caucasus was initially erroneous. It was necessary to "bet" on Azerbaijan. This is a potentially more valuable ally. And from the standpoint of geopolitics, and politics, and economics.
      Now, it seems, we are losing both Azerbaijan and Armenia.
  • donavi49
    donavi49 9 November 2020 18: 01 New
    13
    Thor was also burned with 2 Harop and a UAV on control - which passed him with the radar on sad


    Thor is just Armenian, it is characteristic of them.


    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 18: 06 New
      +5
      Effectively, there is no bazaar. (from)
    2. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 18: 09 New
      +4
      The wasp was also destroyed. As soon as the weather appeared, the video went.
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 9 November 2020 18: 14 New
      +6
      [quote = donavi49] Thor was also burned with 2 Haropes and a UAV on control - which passed him with the radar on sad

      In the video from 1:05, the cat was killed ... sad
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 9 November 2020 18: 17 New
        11
        In general, this is a completely digital Tor, with a new radar and a new rocket. Most of the Russian tori are still analog and with the old radar. If they slammed the UAV gunner - then this is oh. Rather, AI military air defense!
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 9 November 2020 18: 18 New
          +3
          He seemed to be in the stowed position?
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 9 November 2020 18: 21 New
            +1
            Radar in operation on video. It does not have a stowed position. He shoots from the march and even on the move (but perhaps only a caterpillar, and Kamazik from a stop, and Bazik can also on the move).
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 9 November 2020 18: 25 New
              +4
              What happens? Maybe he spotted the UAV and decided to hide in the building? Lost Shusha - panic - disorganization - inappropriate actions ...
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 9 November 2020 18: 35 New
              16
              What weapon do not give out to these brakes, they all will merge ineptly.
            3. Lexus
              Lexus 10 November 2020 00: 44 New
              +6
              Hello! hi
              The only possible explanation is the lack of ammo and recharge time.
      2. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 18: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: Hyperion
        In the video from 1:05, the cat was killed

        Got upset sad
    4. Fungus
      Fungus 9 November 2020 18: 24 New
      0
      As always, the air defense was destroyed through the fault of the installation crew. And not the installation itself. Good technique in the hands of savages is always bad.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 18: 36 New
        +8
        Quote: Fungus
        Good technique in the hands of savages is always bad.

        How long can you repeat this mantra?
        Tor-M2KM is the latest air defense system, in 2019 they just received them, Armenian officers were trained in Russia. A large number of exercises have been conducted within the framework of the CSTO.
        There is a systemic problem of military air defense against UAVs, which needs to be addressed.
        1. Fungus
          Fungus 9 November 2020 18: 39 New
          -1
          There is no problem other than the crew. Even the clumsy Libyans shoot down drones and UAVs, unlike the Armenians.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 18: 45 New
            +5
            Quote: Fungus
            Even the clumsy Libyans shoot down drones and UAVs, unlike the Armenians.

            Yes Yes. The Armenians shot down at least 2 Bayraktar, dozens of AN-2 and other UAVs. Did it help? Libya shot down by dozens, also helped? The cost of 1 day of war, as in Karabakh, is about $ 50 million. The price of Bayraktar TB2 is 2-3 million dollars, you can lose in packs of them.
            Quote: Fungus
            There is no problem other than the crew.

            Well, live in a world of illusions, if 3 wars in this incomplete year did not convince you of this, I cannot do anything.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 9 November 2020 19: 17 New
              +4
              Judging by the video in the Torah, not the operators were sitting, but the monkeys who just scrambled. And no need to say that they have run out of missile ammunition - if they are in a combat position, then they must have a loading vehicle and after shooting all the missiles they had to go to reload, but instead they went to the garage to the "Arsen", and was eventually destroyed and the complex and the garage and, apparently, "Arsen" itself, which gave these rare deer a garage for their use.
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 19: 27 New
                0
                I do not agree.
                The TOR operators discovered possible surveillance of themselves, but could not determine the exact coordinates of the UAV and aim the missiles, or the range and height of the UAV were beyond the reach of its missiles. So we hid.
              2. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 19: 38 New
                -4
                Another variant of the TOP was "drowned out" by the REP, after he "went blind" and hid.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 9 November 2020 20: 14 New
                  +6
                  One version is more fabulous than the other - this Thor has a detection range of 40 kilometers for air targets and a range of 20 kilometers, it can work in automatic mode and even hit gliding bombs with a minimum EPR - but in our case all these possibilities were reduced to zero - by "master" calculation ...
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 20: 41 New
                    +3
                    The Armenians' Tor-M2KM has the following parameters:
                    Detection Range, m 32000
                    Angle detection space deg 0-32 (32-64)
                    Lesion area, m
                    - at a distance of 1000-15000
                    -on height 10-10000
                    -by exchange rate parameter 0-8000

                    The detection range is usually considered to a target with an RCS of 1 m2. For a UAV, the EPR is multiples of less than 1 m2, this is in favor of version 1.
                    The range of destruction of missiles is 15 km. Optics on Bayraktars see 20 km, on Hermes 900 20 km +. to monitor the TOP, you do not need to enter the defeat zone, this is in favor of version 2.
                    Both Israel and the Turks have electronic warfare UAVs. The Hermes 900 has an electronic warfare version and the Turks know exactly about the ANKA-I. Azerbaijan has 900% Hermes 100. This is in favor of version 3.
                    P.S. I ask you to calmly discuss, we do not have exact knowledge of this situation, there are only assumptions. Torah can be destroyed based on the performance characteristics of the weapons used by both sides, regardless of the skill of the crew.
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 55 New
                      -1
                      For you, this complex allows you to detect air targets with an RCS of 0,01 Meters in -square at a distance of 20 kilometers. I didn't mention planning bombs for nothing.
                      1. OgnennyiKotik
                        OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 22: 03 New
                        0
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        EPR 0,01 Meters squared at a distance of 20 kilometers.

                        Is there any confirmation of this? Proofs? More like a marketing statement i.e. it happens under some conditions.
                        In any case, UAVs can observe the TOP without entering the zone of destruction of its missiles, Harop can fly several meters above the ground, below the detection zone of the TOP radar. Naturally, the REP “crushes” the radar without any problems.
                      2. OgnennyiKotik
                        OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 22: 29 New
                        0
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        EPR 0,01 Meters squared at a distance of 20 kilometers.

                        The minimum that I found TOP detects a target with an RCS of 0,05 M2. For this model 0,1 M2
    5. MIG_2
      MIG_2 9 November 2020 18: 39 New
      +4
      I wrote yesterday or the day before yesterday that the drones are not visible due to low clouds, the weather has become a little better, here are the drones that were allegedly destroyed
    6. Old tanker
      Old tanker 9 November 2020 19: 18 New
      +6
      It seems that the Armenians are specifically rolling out equipment under attack. Of course it is not. But, damn it, sheer indulgence and not the ability to fight.
      By the way, over the millennia of the Armenian nation, have they really documented independent victories?
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 9 November 2020 19: 44 New
        +1
        The million dollar question!))
      2. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 9 November 2020 21: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Old Tanker

        By the way, over the millennia of the Armenian nation, have they really documented independent victories?

        There are, of course, quite a few. Otherwise, they would not have survived in this mess. There were, they were victories.
        But not at this time.
  • SERGOL
    SERGOL 9 November 2020 18: 06 New
    +8
    There is not much left, and Karabakh (Artsakh) will be completely in the hands of the Azeris. Armenians stink a little and historical justice will prevail.
  • Peter rybak
    Peter rybak 9 November 2020 18: 10 New
    +9
    The defense army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) has lost control over the key city of Shushi, Azerbaijani troops are on the outskirts of Stepanakert, said the press secretary of the NKR president Vahram Poghosyan.

    Pashinyan did his job.
    1. Grits
      Grits 9 November 2020 18: 20 New
      20
      Quote: Peter Rybak
      Pashinyan did his job.

      Not yet.
      As soon as he turned his back on Russia, he lost Karabakh.
      As soon as it completely squeezes Russia out of Armenia, it will lose all Armenia.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: Gritsa
        Not yet.
        As soon as he turned his back on Russia, he lost Karabakh.
        As soon as it completely squeezes Russia out of Armenia, it will lose all Armenia.

        Exactly. hi
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 9 November 2020 18: 11 New
    +1
    I wonder how the Armenian servicemen will now be evacuated and what routes, it turns out that they are surrounded, the road to Armenia with NGOs is cut?
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 November 2020 18: 24 New
      +8
      Well, perhaps they will negotiate ... remember Dunkirk ... Aliyev does not need a massacre ... they will be allowed to go out along the same Lachin corridor, but without equipment, with a rifle at the most
      1. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 9 November 2020 19: 30 New
        +7
        Azerbaijan needs a public humiliation of Armenia for the possession of Karabakh for 30 years, and all this will be well covered in the media and on the international arena, most likely even the small arms will have to be left by the Armenians if there are banners, even if they could be carried out, if this happens, to Unfortunately, this will be the largest military-political defeat of the Armenian nation over the past 100 years, the Armenians are such a wise people, the most ancient civilization and church, how did they choose such rulers for themselves at the present time?
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  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 18: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: SERGOL
    There is not much left, and Karabakh (Artsakh) will be completely in the hands of the Azeris. Armenians stink a little and historical justice will prevail.

    What kind of historical justice are we talking about?
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 9 November 2020 18: 15 New
    +4
    With Putin's tacit consent, the Turks suppressed the anti-Russian Armenia.
    1. Grits
      Grits 9 November 2020 18: 22 New
      25
      Quote: Dmitry Makarov
      With Putin's tacit consent, Turks suppressed anti-Russian Armenia

      It must be admitted that the Turks and Azerbaijan have chosen a very good moment. They waited for a long time, but as soon as Pashinyan began to spit on Russia, they understood that their time had come.
  • SERGOL
    SERGOL 9 November 2020 18: 16 New
    +2
    Joke of the day
  • alexmach
    alexmach 9 November 2020 18: 16 New
    +2
    ... More precisely, about how sloppily Pashinyan runs Facebook .. Well ... but could it be that he and other things would have enough at this time?
    With congratulations to Biden, he seemed to be in a hurry ..
  • fn34440
    fn34440 9 November 2020 18: 17 New
    -8
    Pashinyan wants so much, now, to take Navalny's place in the Alpine boarding house, but "Novichek" is a dear piece, "Porton Down" prescribes only the elite.
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 9 November 2020 18: 17 New
    11
    How the bashibozuku managed to profuse such positions is unclear. Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight. In this city, the battalion could comfortably fight for a week.
    1. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 18: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      How the bashibozuku managed to profuse such positions is unclear. Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight. In this city, the battalion could comfortably fight for a week.

      Alas, alas, the Armenians lost Karabakh to the Turks. Now Armenia itself will be in an unenviable position. Another 150 thousand residents, refugees in a poor country.
      1. MIG_2
        MIG_2 9 November 2020 18: 41 New
        +2
        they will go to Russia and Turkey
      2. Megatron
        Megatron 9 November 2020 18: 44 New
        -1
        I mean, in ours?
      3. Renator
        Renator 9 November 2020 22: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Pavlos Melas
        Alas, alas, the Armenians lost Karabakh to the Turks.

        Niko, did you really think the Armenians would win?
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 22: 26 New
          0
          I thought that there would be no drain and hoped that this conflict would freeze. The Armenians did not have any preconditions to win, one on one. In a war, resources are the first priority. You can laugh at the Azerbaijanis as much as you like that they are not warriors, but human resources and economic resources are on their side. No fighting spirit can defeat a much more numerous enemy with better weapons. An enemy who will fight and not scatter. It should also be borne in mind that there are only Karabakh Armenians and only imkhtamnet from Armenia. Armenians cannot use their full potential. Anyway, loot wins to anybody. hi
          1. Renator
            Renator 9 November 2020 22: 32 New
            0
            [quote = Pavlos Melas] For that, Azerbaijan and Turkey will open the border and the economy will improve, investments will come, I think they will benefit from it
            1. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 22: 38 New
              0
              [quote = Renator] [quote = Pavlos Melas] For that, Azerbaijan and Turkey will open the border and the economy will improve, investments will come, I think they will benefit from this [/ quote]
              It will not work with the Turks, the Turks will not trust the Armenians about Western Armenia, they remember better than the Armenians. The Armenians will be friends with the Turks only in the form of a vassal.
    2. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 9 November 2020 19: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight.

      If the Armenians themselves do not believe in their victory, then neither the position nor the technique will help them.
    3. Renator
      Renator 9 November 2020 21: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      How did the bashibozuku manage to waste such positions?

      Hello fellow countryman! I told you not to underestimate us. By the way, you are silent about the bedridden
  • Anton Yu
    Anton Yu 9 November 2020 18: 20 New
    +2
    Interestingly, after the capture of Stepanakert, the fighting will continue or stop?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 November 2020 18: 28 New
      +9
      What are you, war to the bitter end ..
  • hydroy
    hydroy 9 November 2020 18: 27 New
    -24 qualifying.
    Azerbaijani forces shot down a Russian helicopter in Armenia in the direction of Nakhchivan
  • parusnik
    parusnik 9 November 2020 18: 27 New
    12
    One thing is clear, Karabakh, now does not see autonomy as its own ears. And in order to admire their own ears in the mirror, the Karabakh Armenians need to collect things so that others do not admire their ears.
  • Rumblings
    Rumblings 9 November 2020 18: 28 New
    -5
    And many did not believe that the town was taken.
    IMHO the flag will be shown hoisting in all its glory in Stepanakert.
    After the negotiations, as Aliyev said.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 9 November 2020 18: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: Merkit
      And many did not believe that the town was taken.

      Duc, more than once already took. wink
  • mag nit
    mag nit 9 November 2020 18: 31 New
    -10 qualifying.
    Artsakh is independent. What does Pashanyan have to do with it?
  • Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 9 November 2020 18: 31 New
    -9
    Wait, there might be something wrong here. Information from the Armenian side about the surrender of Shushi came from the press secretary of the NKR President from the Facebook page. Such statements are always made by either the president or the commander.
    The confirmation was repeated, but again from the same source.
    Shusha in Azeri videos (a few seconds) is absolutely empty. How this can be is not clear. This is a dominant area, it cannot be empty!
    Yes, yesterday the Azeris were drilled with a drill, they were given 100% a loading dose of pills, this is now standard practice even for NATO members. And after such pills, you need to come to your senses for at least a day.
    Information on the Armenian channels is completely absent. Pegov in Moscow, he is charged with a term for stealing money from some bank in hell knows what year.
    In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 November 2020 18: 35 New
      +9
      In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.
      ... What is not clear here, the two Caucasian peoples are slaughtering each other, like the Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda.
      1. MIG_2
        MIG_2 9 November 2020 18: 52 New
        -2
        Armenians, and Azerbaijanis are not Caucasian peoples
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 9 November 2020 21: 27 New
          0
          MIG_2 "Armenians, and Azerbaijanis are not Caucasian peoples."
          Correctly they are the Transcaucasian peoples.))) With a Caucasian type of face.)))
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 9 November 2020 18: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: parusnik
        In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.
        ... What is not clear here, the two Caucasian peoples are slaughtering each other, like the Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda.

        Two former Soviet republics, fighting to the death with hatred.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 10 November 2020 00: 49 New
          +4
          Dmitriy hi ,
          I also do not understand how you can "savor" it.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 10 November 2020 11: 47 New
            +1
            Alexey! hi I do not understand a lot of things in all this. Both in emotions and in that, Armenia is farther from Russia. For example, 5-6 years ago there were many Armenians here on the site, participating in discussions. They are about different joint projects ..... You see how the tone has changed.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 10 November 2020 15: 56 New
              +5
              Therefore, this "peacekeeping" will surely come out "sideways" for Russia.
              It is not just that there were no other people willing to "breed sheep".
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 10 November 2020 16: 05 New
                +1
                .....sideways.....
                there is nothing to say. These "sides" are from all sides and there are more and more of them. But post-Soviet history is 30 years old.
                This is all a continuation of the destruction of the USSR.
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 10 November 2020 16: 08 New
                  +4
                  For this "thread" and will pull until there is absolutely nothing left.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 10 November 2020 16: 19 New
                    +1
                    It seems to me that many people think: the USSR collapsed. And I think that there is still a lot of good left from the USSR! Free medicine is decreasing --- this is the destruction of the USSR. Rises in price of rent and food - this is the destruction of the USSR. And such examples can be extended.
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 10 November 2020 16: 28 New
                      +4
                      That is why the "power" is speeding up efforts to "eradicate" the latter.
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 November 2020 16: 43 New
                        +1
                        Quote: lexus
                        That is why the "power" is speeding up efforts to "eradicate" the latter.

                        There is a lot more in different areas of life. For 30 years there has been an active destruction of the USSR, but preparations for this have been going on for a long time. For example, on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, the famous botanist and linguist Alexander Mikhailovich Kondratov wrote the poem "A reproach to the deadline", in the style of a palindrome. It is surprising that he was not subjected to this, but on the contrary, after that his books on atlantology and linguistics began to be published. And this poem was published in the early 1990s! When I found out, I thought that in the 50th anniversary of October the nomenklatura began to surrender to the USSR.
    2. Turanov
      Turanov 9 November 2020 18: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: Artavazdych
      Information on the Armenian channels is completely absent. Pegov in Moscow, he is charged with a term for stealing money from some bank in hell knows what year.
      In general, what is happening is absolutely unclear.

      The media are not ours, that's the problem hi ..On all open spaces, only Azerbaijani videos are victorious ..
      All this is strange! It seems that everything is being blocked and "public opinion" is leading to something very serious that is not in Russia's favor .. It is not for nothing that the Internet is flooded with very aggressive comments and videos
      The next Donbass?
      1. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 9 November 2020 18: 51 New
        +1
        The next Donbass?

        99%
        1. Turanov
          Turanov 9 November 2020 20: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Artavazdych
          The next Donbass?

          99%

          53% .. This is not Karabakh for them! They have been preparing there for a long time .. And the militias will trample the professionals with their weapons at gunpoint! hi
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 19: 03 New
      +9
      Yes, you can not cringe - the fact remains that you have pissed away everything that is possible and so ineptly that it will appear in the textbooks of warfare in a separate heading "War humor" and the section "They come - this is when they retreat"
      1. Turanov
        Turanov 9 November 2020 20: 52 New
        -2
        Quote: Vadim237
        Yes, you can not cringe - the fact remains that you have pissed away everything that is possible and so ineptly that it will appear in the textbooks of warfare in a separate heading "War humor" and the section "They come - this is when they retreat"

        Vadik and people like you rejoice early wink ..Russia is concentrating, and this is very dangerous for people like you .. Do not lead to sin, you yourself run up .. Do you think you are so elusive on the internet here pouring dirt on us in Russia?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 November 2020 22: 00 New
          0
          I am invulnerable to you, and yes, I am for Azerbaijan as an importer of our products worth hundreds of millions of rubles a year. . "Russia is concentrating, and this is very dangerous for people like you." Where is it concentrating and how is it very dangerous for me in Russia? You advice - stop composting brains.
          1. Turanov
            Turanov 9 November 2020 22: 09 New
            -4
            Quote: Vadim237
            I am invulnerable to you, and yes, I am for Azerbaijan as an importer of our products worth hundreds of millions of rubles a year.

            Jew? understandable then .. Hundreds of millions who kill? So I would write that from Israel, otherwise you are always quiet here without flags ..
            You can do anything, but Russia is not laughing Well, brag about your invulnerability, etc.
            Russia also has a lot of products for export ... and those who want to buy for billions bully And even for shekels)))
      2. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 9 November 2020 22: 29 New
        -4
        The people of Karabakh have already done the impossible. 43 days of defense by an army of 35-40 thousand with weapons of the 20th century against a 150 thousand army with the latest types of weapons and unlimited human resources.
        And while at least one soldier is shooting, the war is not yet lost !!!
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 9 November 2020 18: 35 New
    -20 qualifying.
    Congratulations to Azerbaijan and Turks! we are waiting for the Turet Inhatebs in the Caucasus and within the Russian Federation!
    1. Turanov
      Turanov 9 November 2020 22: 01 New
      0
      Quote: opuonmed
      Congratulations to Azerbaijan and Turks! we are waiting for the Turet Inhatebs in the Caucasus and within the Russian Federation!

      Please pay attention to this .. ALL! So that they don't complain about us later.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 22: 02 New
      -1
      "We are waiting for the Turet Inhatebs" You can wait until you turn blue - you can't wait for the borders to be closed and the FSB is not eating its bread for nothing.
      1. opuonmed
        opuonmed 9 November 2020 22: 04 New
        0
        who am I that the Turks took revenge on Azerbaijan ((and from there they will send it as it is not sad
      2. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 9 November 2020 22: 25 New
        -4
        the border with Azerbaijan is open. Visa-free regime! Aliev is a friend
  • Turanov
    Turanov 9 November 2020 18: 36 New
    +7
    Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power there will be nothing good, his goal is to involve Russia and fade himself .. Biden and those who are behind him, I think, are happy! Oh, Armenia, you have warmed a snake on your chest.
    1. MTN
      MTN 9 November 2020 18: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Turanov
      Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power nothing good, his goal is to drag Russia in and fade himself ..

      Well, then, is the Armenian people a shame? The Armenians chose him. People.
      1. Turanov
        Turanov 9 November 2020 19: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: MTN
        Well, then, is the Armenian people a shame? The Armenians chose him. People.

        Yes, we know how this is all chosen, there was actually a coup, and everyone knows who is behind it ..
        And the most interesting thing, after a while the assault on Karabakh began ..! A coincidence? I don’t think ..
        By the way, Putin personally asked Pashinyan not to jail Kacherian, but he did it in spite and with a smile ..
        1. MTN
          MTN 9 November 2020 20: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Turanov
          By the way, Putin personally asked Pashinyan not to jail Kacherian, but he did it in spite and with a smile ..

          And Kocharian and the representative from Armenia to the CSTO (pro-Russian general) and love with the West and so on ... There is mistake after mistake, sin after sin.
    2. hydroy
      hydroy 9 November 2020 18: 44 New
      0
      Pashinyan resigned ...
      1. t-12
        t-12 9 November 2020 20: 04 New
        0
        Everything? Task completed? May I go to rest?
    3. karima
      karima 9 November 2020 21: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Turanov
      Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power there will be nothing good, his goal is to involve Russia and fade himself .. Biden and those who are behind him, I think, are happy! Oh, Armenia, you have warmed a snake on your chest.
      Well, yes, Pashinyan ran from ballot box to ballot box and voted for himself? It was the common choice of the Armenian people - what they fought for ...
      1. Turanov
        Turanov 9 November 2020 21: 39 New
        0
        Quote: karima
        Well, yes, Pashinyan ran from ballot box to ballot box and voted for himself? It was the common choice of the Armenian people - what they fought for.

        Well, then Pashinyan in camouflage ran and yelled "Russia out." Now in a suit and so quiet)))))

        Who do you think proves to this Pashinyan and who is the effeminate guy doing there?
    4. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 9 November 2020 21: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Turanov
      Pashinyan, the shame of the Armenian people .. And while he is in power there will be nothing good, his goal is to involve Russia and fade himself .. Biden and those who are behind him, I think, are happy! Oh, Armenia, you have warmed a snake on your chest.

      Damn, Biden got to do with it? Pashenyan was elected under Trump. Have you been sleeping for four years?
      1. Turanov
        Turanov 9 November 2020 21: 55 New
        -5
        Quote: Beringovsky
        Damn, Biden got to do with it? Pashenyan was elected under Trump. Have you been sleeping for four years?

        The United States is not Trump and Biden is not ruling, there are other forces ... Russia is still weak and we do not want to fight, even for another 10 years at least .. hi Of course, we understand that none of the world fights can do without the Russians, but let us at least recover a little ... After the 90s, the losses were huge, everything was handed out and we were still kicked and cut for this ... Give time and the whole world will rage again !!! hi soldier
        We do not want war, but we can kill anyone if we are driven into a corner by persecution. soldier negative
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 18: 38 New
    +8
    We have merged Karabakh in one word. For so many years it was possible to organize a more or less sane defense. It is a pity for those who were sent to create the appearance of resistance and senseless death.

    In my opinion, the minimum task was to drain Karabakh. The task is to draw Russia into this as much as possible.
    I don't know what their goal is, but judging by the anti-Russian policy that was pursued there, the squeezing of the Russian Federation from the region will continue. Azerbaijan will no longer have territorial disputes, which will allow them to apply for NATO membership.
    And in Armenia, anti-Russian sentiments will be fueled, which may entail the withdrawal from the CSTO and the liquidation of the base in Gyumri. And now two states, one people, will become practically a single country, with a satellite represented by Armenia.
    So much for NATO in the Caspian. Here is a new problem for Iran with Russia.
    They got involved, it would be bad, didn't get involved, also not very much. And all because we always only react to emerging problems, and do not try to act proactively.

    We restored territorial integrity in Azerbaijan. Now we need to restore it in Syria.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 November 2020 18: 48 New
      +4
      In my opinion
      I don’t know about the others, but I agree with your opinion. Armenia does not lose anything in the course of this conflict, from the word at all. Yes, the task, to involve Russia in the war has failed. It’s not a problem. But the rest of the tasks have been solved. Azerbaijan is under Turkish supervision. Iran has problems. ...
      1. Turanov
        Turanov 9 November 2020 19: 09 New
        -2
        Quote: parusnik
        Yes, the task of dragging Russia into the war failed. It’s not a problem. But the rest of the tasks have been solved. Azerbaijan is under Turkish supervision. Iran has problems.

        That's just that Iran has problems (probably this was the main goal), Russia will also soon begin on all fronts, already in Syria as well .. (Bandera's people began to stir, Georgians, etc.)
        The plan "anaconda" is working, according to the cunning .. Shah called Putin. hi
        War really smells
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 9 November 2020 19: 06 New
      -1
      Azerbaijan will no longer have territorial disputes, which will allow them to apply for NATO membership.


      Hahahahhhh .... Azerbaijan is in NATO ?! Yes, no one will let these Turkish vassals into NATO - why do Americans need a manual bashibozuk Edik in the house? And the French? And the Greeks?

      They will build Turan on the ruins of the USSR and they are done.
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 9 November 2020 18: 39 New
    +8
    Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 9 November 2020 18: 43 New
      -9
      Quote: syndicalist
      Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.

      RF is a great current for the internal user, but for the whole world they shit and shit on the RF, and Putin himself said that he was used to his colleagues smearing him and he did not need the CIS, but he didn’t think the current was great, as it were, to stay in power! what he promised for many years what he did, write!
    2. Moskovit
      Moskovit 9 November 2020 18: 54 New
      +6
      The Armenians have not been mentioned before. Now they don't have Karabakh. Further ignoring can lead to loss of independence.
      Azerbaijan understands very well that it has achieved its successes thanks to Russia's neutrality. Otherwise, the north wind could blow all the drones back.
      1. sustav75
        sustav75 9 November 2020 19: 37 New
        -1
        And how long will Putin "teach" Armenia? Doesn't he allow his "friend" Erdogash a lot! The stirring of the Turkic peoples will not sleep out the sun-face? Putin is not forever! Turks are waiting for the moments ...
      2. t-12
        t-12 9 November 2020 20: 10 New
        -1
        Further ignoring can lead to loss of independence.
        Armenia has no strength for independence.
      3. karima
        karima 9 November 2020 21: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Moskovit
        thanks to Russia's neutrality
        Very true on the one hand
        he achieved his success
        On the other hand
        Why did Russia have to do something differently?
    3. Fungus
      Fungus 9 November 2020 18: 58 New
      0
      Aliyev and Pashinyan are also mentioned every day. And they call up every other day with Putin. What kind of zero are we talking about?
    4. Turanov
      Turanov 9 November 2020 19: 11 New
      0
      Quote: syndicalist
      Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.

      Do not provoke, we know people like you are online .. negative
    5. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 9 November 2020 19: 12 New
      -10 qualifying.
      Russia has not been mentioned by either side for a long time. The authority dropped to zero.


      Well, Azerbaijanis, Turks and Jewish bombs have ground your "ally" in the CSTO to zero. With you, being an ally, traveling companion, situational ally, or anything else means being completely inadequate. The only real force in this world is the Americans. Everything. Both the Greeks and us and all who have a potential enemy Turkey need to be stuffed with American weapons and American bases. It's good that the economy and money are there, and our military and politicians will certainly make their analyzes of the war between Armenia and Turkey.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 22: 02 New
        +1
        Both the Greeks and us and all who have a potential enemy Turkey need to be stuffed with American weapons and American bases.
        Greece and Bulgaria need to buy weapons from everywhere, create their own military-industrial complex and create military alliances. Also, we have to figure out with the northern and you with the inadequate western neighbor so that we don’t have any surprises hi
        1. Renator
          Renator 9 November 2020 22: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          .Also we with the northern and you and the western inadequate neighbor to figure out that would not present surprises

          What are you afraid of from Macedonia?
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 22: 51 New
            0
            What are you afraid of from Macedonia?

            Ay yay yay Metin, you know the history of this region both in Bulgarian and Turkish, you can draw from two sources. In addition, you can see the statement of both Bulgarian and Turkish politicians on the Prespen Agreement. Bulgarian especially right-wing politicians were not happy, and Cavusoglu declared all kinds of support North Macedonia in his message, of course, just Macedonia (he is faithful to neo-Ottoman principles). In general, it is a fact that you are trying to tighten the ring around Greece. So even a small state with your support can be a threat. I am not for overestimating the enemy, but I would not underestimate him either.
    6. sustav75
      sustav75 9 November 2020 19: 31 New
      +3
      ABOUT! People on this site began to open their eyes! And they are not even minus! I noticed and began to scold the zeroed one more! And again the plus signs! Where did the regulars go? Where is 74% overdue? Straight marvelous!
      1. Turanov
        Turanov 9 November 2020 20: 57 New
        -5
        Quote: sustav75
        ABOUT! People on this site began to open their eyes! And they are not even minus! I noticed and began to scold the zeroed one more! And again the plus signs! Where did the regulars go? Where is 74% overdue? Straight marvelous!

        Ask Israel for Biden too. bully
        I slapped you a minus from the whole Russian soul and the Armenian people too .. wink soldier
        1. sustav75
          sustav75 10 November 2020 01: 34 New
          0
          In! One got out! And where is uryayaya? Putin's cunning plan! Punish the Armenians! And then forgive everyone, reconcile and take with open arms to the CSTO! And even Turkey! And where does the open enemy of Russia, Biden and the secretive enemy of everything Russian, Israel? You have some kind of mania ...
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 9 November 2020 18: 42 New
    +3
    Azerbaijanis are great.
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 18: 45 New
    +5
    Quote: parusnik
    One thing is clear, Karabakh, now does not see autonomy as its own ears. And in order to admire their own ears in the mirror, the Karabakh Armenians need to collect things so that others do not admire their ears.

    What kind of scum is it that needs to be brought up so that it goes to cut off someone's ears, or other parts of the body? For what? What's the point? Does it give any pleasure to you all? At first I thought that these were some isolated cases. No, quite a lot of this has been uploaded to the network, and how many are we not seeing yet? So also in the comments, many write about this, clearly approving all this ...
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 9 November 2020 19: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Cron
      What kind of scum is it that needs to be brought up so that it goes to cut off someone's ears, or other parts of the body? For what? What's the point? Does it give any pleasure to you all? At first I thought that these were some isolated cases

      In 1990, this happened in the Kyrgyz SSR, "Osh events", ears were lying on the ground, if you are curious, raise the chronicle of that time and the recollections of eyewitnesses. and the upbringing was Soviet. request
    2. t-12
      t-12 9 November 2020 20: 20 New
      +1
      For what? What's the point?

      The point is to dehumanize a defeated enemy. Show that this is not a person, but a beast, which can be slaughtered calmly and with impunity.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 18: 46 New
    +7
    The Armenians confirm the surrender of Shushi:

    Press Secretary of the President of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Vahram Poghosyan stated that the city of Shushi is completely outside the control of the Karabakh forces.

    "Today, unfortunately, we must admit that we are still accompanied by a series of failures and the city of Shushi is completely out of our control. All the encouraging and inspiring propaganda theses give us nothing but a detachment from the sense of reality," Poghosyan wrote on Facebook. .... No destruction. The Armenians simply surrendered the city. I have a feeling that this war is one complete fake.  laughing The enemy is on the outskirts of Stepanakert, and its existence is already under threat, "he wrote.

     
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 18: 48 New
    0
    Moneylenders are always to blame, now they definitely won't see mortgage payments 

    Force majeure and all questions to Erdogan laughing wassat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 18: 49 New
    +3
    Armenian patriots nowadays do not control themselves, they are obliged to go to the slaughter. This is their fate, karma, destiny. All international treaties can be thrown into the trash along with the UN itself, if someone does not understand. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 18: 51 New
    +4
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    How the bashibozuku managed to profuse such positions is unclear. Now Pashinyan can go to the front, to the penal battalion, as a private. And power is for those who know how to fight. In this city, the battalion could comfortably fight for a week.

    And what did you expect that the eared man with a grenade would rush under the tank? laughing Russia twisted the big-eared fig and did not appear. lol lol
    1. maktub
      maktub 9 November 2020 19: 27 New
      -6
      The Military Observer has just arrived at the military observer ️Airat Gibatdinov, the Deputy Chairman of the Legislative Assembly of the Ulyanovsk Region, posted on his Instagram footage of how he claims that the Russian military was sent to Nagorno-Karabakh.

      The video was posted 10 hours ago, which means 9-10 am Moscow time.
      #Russia

      @new_militarycolumnist
  • Radikal
    Radikal 9 November 2020 18: 51 New
    +3
    Quote: MTN
    Quote: Tank Hard
    When Pashinyan became the head, then they sold it, but maybe even earlier. IMHO.

    Do you think Aliyev should be given an order for his service? )))

    The order will be given to him at the US Embassy, ​​and yours - if only by a closed decree of Brother Janissary. lol
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 18: 55 New
    +2
    If someone Armenian has doubts about staying in Karabakh or not, just look at the story of Safarov, who hacked to death an Armenian serviceman in Europe with an ax, at NATO courses. And how Aliyev freed him from punishment, raised him in rank and presented him with all sorts of buns, in the form of a house, etc.
    Yes, someone will get something and they will be allowed to live in peace, after all, a picture is needed for the Organization of Concerned Nations, but it's not worth it ...
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 18: 55 New
    +7
    So they swore that they would fight for every house, but they would not surrender. 

    And so much dirt was poured on the Russians!

    pysy 
    I don't understand how such nationalities put themselves on the same level with the Russians.  
    Azeris are at least not as talkative as "Armenian radio."


    pysy2
    I do not accept anyone's side of the conflict. .... Sorry. Now all this gopota will run to Russia. 
    1. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 9 November 2020 21: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin

      Azeris are at least not as talkative as "Armenian radio."
       

      Not here on VO. Here bots from Azerbaijan are like fleas on a stray dog, and they are very talkative. It seems that the site has become the property of Aliyev.
      I do not accept anyone's side of the conflict. .... Sorry. Now all this gopota will run to Russia.

      They are already here, all these 30 years, and on both sides. Traders.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 9 November 2020 19: 01 New
    +6
    Nikola hurried to lick Biden, put on his people ...
  • Old tanker
    Old tanker 9 November 2020 19: 03 New
    +3
    The traitor of the Armenian people initially leaked Karabakh. Very similar to the Iraqi generals in 2003. At the lower echelon, fighters and commanders perished for their Motherland, and at the top echelon everything had been sold long ago.
    Pashinyan does not need Karabakh, well, and you will see, the Armenians will forgive him for his surrender.
    1. karima
      karima 9 November 2020 21: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Old Tankman
      Traitor to the Armenian people
      Suddenly he is a traitor. Didn't young and old voted for him? So stupid or what? His words were not in an empty place, he knew what to say.
  • Operator
    Operator 9 November 2020 19: 04 New
    -2
    Sorosyatnik Pashinyan leaked Karabakh, Armenia is next.
  • Asadbek
    Asadbek 9 November 2020 19: 06 New
    +7
    Better Pashinyan to congratulate Aliyev for taking
    Shushi city
    1. maiman61
      maiman61 9 November 2020 19: 35 New
      +2
      Ask Aliyev to award Pashinyan with the order for surrendering Karabakh! This will "please" the Armenians not only in Armenia, but also the Diaspora of Armenians all over the world!
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 19: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: MIG_2
    safars killed a war criminal, not civilians as the Armenians did

    Look how it turns out, but what war criminals were killed in Sumgait and Baku?
  • Bear
    Bear 9 November 2020 19: 12 New
    +4
    Azerbaijanis are winning, and it's so clear. Armenians are trying, but from the press materials they have armies of different decades with the Azeris :(
  • Dimon71
    Dimon71 9 November 2020 19: 16 New
    -1
    Gaze newspaper writes that a Russian helicopter was shot down over Armenia. The shot supposedly came from Nakhichevan !!!
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 9 November 2020 19: 18 New
      -5
      Yes they are already fucking bastards
  • USSR 1970
    USSR 1970 9 November 2020 19: 16 New
    -5
    This information is not yet confirmed!
    The Facebook press secretary was hacked.
    Therefore, we can assume that there are still battles for this city.
    I understand the Azerbaijanis and Aliyev, but perhaps they were too hasty with the statement.
    So it was already.
  • Ham
    Ham 9 November 2020 19: 18 New
    +2
    all who cheat against Russia are losing territory ...
    exchange of Idlib for Karabakh? We are quite happy with this ... that's why they are pawns to exchange them;) and the stupid Nikolka can continue to lick the biden
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 19: 19 New
    +5
    Quote: USSR 1970
    This information is not yet confirmed!
    The Facebook press secretary was hacked.
    Therefore, we can assume that there are still battles for this city.
    I understand the Azerbaijanis and Aliyev, but perhaps they were too hasty with the statement.
    So it was already.

    No, he has already confirmed that there was no break-in. This is his record
  • Dikson
    Dikson 9 November 2020 19: 20 New
    0
    And in the news they write about the downed Russian turntable in Armenia ... like it flew into it from the direction of Nakhichevan ... and nothing else, except for a photo of the burned side from it is not clear where ... (
    1. Old tanker
      Old tanker 9 November 2020 19: 30 New
      +7
      Another Armenian provocation to drag Russia into the war.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 9 November 2020 19: 36 New
        +3
        Even if it is a provocation - sorry, the crew died, the people on board .. actually, our people ... In any case, Russia is a loser. Erdogan and the United States came up with an excellent fork .. If you get in, you will quarrel with both Turkey and Azerbaijan, if you give a reason for new sanctions and the introduction of NATO peacekeepers, you will not get into a fight - instead of our base in Armenia there will be an American one .. Everywhere there is a wedge .. but Lavrov is good humorist, huh? ..
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 19: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Dimon71
    Gaze newspaper writes that a Russian helicopter was shot down over Armenia. The shot supposedly came from Nakhichevan !!!

    If this is true, then either everything within a radius of several kilometers from where the attack was carried out should be destroyed, or Russia can be spit endlessly.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 9 November 2020 19: 39 New
      +2
      no one will even express concern .. most likely. the situation is not the same. If only the special forces will work quietly .. ((
  • rusich
    rusich 9 November 2020 19: 26 New
    +2
    And what else was there to expect from the Soros. Surrendered Karabakh
  • Old tanker
    Old tanker 9 November 2020 19: 29 New
    +7
    Something has significantly decreased the activity of Armenian bots on the site. Looks like they are enthusiastically repairing the meat grinder together with Pegov.
  • maiman61
    maiman61 9 November 2020 19: 30 New
    +2
    I look forward to the anti-Russian demonstrations with the burning of the flag in Armenia! Russians out of Armenia, invaders, take out your base! What are you such brakes! Impudent Russians dared not to fight for Great Armenia!
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 9 November 2020 21: 32 New
      0
      Or maybe they are waiting for the Turkish ambassador and the opening of the border with Turkey?
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 19: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: Dikson
    And in the news they write about the downed Russian turntable in Armenia ... like it flew into it from the direction of Nakhichevan ... and nothing else, except for a photo of the burned side from it is not clear where ... (

    The Ministry of Defense confirmed this information. It will be hot now, or not ...
    1. maiman61
      maiman61 9 November 2020 21: 48 New
      +1
      What heat? We need to see who benefits from it! Azerbaijan is not profitable for a stop! They don't even come close to the Armenian border, so as not to have problems. Beneficial ONLY for Armenia or Turkish scumbags.
      1. Cron
        Cron 9 November 2020 21: 49 New
        0
        Quote: maiman61
        What heat? We need to see who benefits from it! Azerbaijan is not profitable for a stop! They don't even come close to the Armenian border, so as not to have problems. Beneficial ONLY for Armenia or Turkish scumbags.

        You missed everything. Azerbaijan has already admitted its guilt
        1. maiman61
          maiman61 9 November 2020 21: 52 New
          0
          I didn't miss EVERYTHING! Azerbaijan admitted its guilt, shot down by mistake, earlier Russian helicopters did not fly here! And next to it are their troops, at which the Armenians shoot from their territory. Probably they thought that the Armenian helicopter from its territory would hit the Azerbaijani troops and wash away.
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 19: 34 New
    +5
    In a difficult time, the USSR directly spoke in the steel voice of Levitan: "After heavy and bloody battles, our troops left ..." Severe, but TRUTH! Today, the Internet "media" for the second day, the brains of the optimistic LIE! And what is it like for the Armenians now, after the collapse of hopes? As, Pashinyan ??? While the tail is wagging the dog, don't believe the good news !!!