Contradictory reports: in Baku they said that it was the Azerbaijani army that was destroying the encircled enemy near Shusha

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Contradictory reports: in Baku they said that it was the Azerbaijani army that was destroying the encircled enemy near Shusha

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, which reported to President Ilham Aliyev the previous morning about the capture of the Karabakh city of Shushi under its full control, today writes that the Azerbaijani army is fighting in the surrounding settlement. The city of Shushi (Shusha) is called the key city of Nagorno-Karabakh, which can make it possible to enter the operational space and advance to Stepanakert.

It is important to note that the reports of the Ministries of Defense of Azerbaijan and the unrecognized NKR by now have finally turned into diametrically opposite ones. Some time ago, Voennoye Obozreniye published data provided by the Nagorno-Karabakh military department. The report says that the NKR army is carrying out the destruction of the Azerbaijani units surrounded in the Shushi region.



A few minutes ago, the Azerbaijani military department issued a material, which states that it is the Azerbaijani army that is carrying out the destruction of the surrounded Armenian troops near Shusha.

From the summary of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

An operation to destroy the encircled enemy forces in the Shushi region. On November 9, drone UAVs destroyed one tank and one infantry fighting vehicle of the Armenian armed forces, which attempted to attack our units in order to break out of the encirclement near the village of Zarysly on the Lachin-Shusha road.

Below are the footage presented by the Azerbaijani side:


Meanwhile, Armenian Defense Minister Artsrun Hovhannisyan said during a briefing that Azerbaijani attempts to advance in the Martakert and Martuni directions had failed.

It is quite obvious that it becomes very difficult to navigate in reports when each side declares its victories and endless defeats of the enemy. One thing is clear: the hostilities in Karabakh continue, the situation for the NKR troops is extremely difficult, but at the same time the Azerbaijani troops also clearly had problems in capturing not only Shushi, but also the so-called Berdzor (Lachin) corridor.
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    1. +23
      9 November 2020 14: 08
      Judging by the reports, there is no one alive, neither stand nor on the other side .. laughing
      1. +1
        9 November 2020 14: 21
        Why, if there are humanoid bots.
        Let's try to reproduce.
        Well, for example.
        The gallant forward units rushed into the city.
        They carried the enemy away with them, solely for humanitarian reasons, and, surrounded by a heroic combat dance, proceeded to the most brilliant pacification.
        Kudos to our outstanding strategists.
        1. +12
          9 November 2020 14: 27
          I remember Hitler, too, hastened to loudly announce the capture of Stalingrad, but then a little discrepancy came out ... recourse
          1. +3
            9 November 2020 14: 33
            From the text: “It is important to note that the summaries of the Ministries of Defense of Azerbaijan and the unrecognized NKR have now been finalized. turned into diametrically opposite ". Nothing changes in history. Suffice it to recall that when a battle took place with an unclear result, both opposing sides sent dispatches about their victory over the foe! good drinks
      2. +5
        9 November 2020 14: 33
        Judging by the reports, there is no one alive, neither stand nor on the other side ..

        Well, as long as someone is still shooting there.
        But things are bad, and on both sides. recourse
        1. +6
          9 November 2020 14: 38
          The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, which reported to President Ilham Aliyev the previous morning about the capture of the Karabakh city of Shushi under its full control, today writes that the Azerbaijani army is fighting in the surrounding settlement.


          Liars ... By "Flag Day" they wanted to report on "peremog" (it looks like someone feel ), and once again forced Aliyev to lie.
          But that is not the first, I myself am glad to be deceived. He is accused of lying, that water off a duck's back ...
          1. +4
            9 November 2020 15: 03
            Quote: Divan-batyr
            Liars ... By "Flag Day" they wanted to report on "peremog"

            Near Shushi something terrible is happening.
            I don’t think that the Armenians themselves mobilized there.
            Most likely, the "north wind" blew there. Not directly, of course, just some kind of support came. It is not just that the Azerbaijanis got stuck there. And for some reason, Erdogan's "friend" called the "lordly".
            As they say, we played and woke up ..
            The adults came.
            1. +4
              9 November 2020 15: 13
              Quote: Alexey Sommer

              Near Shushi something terrible is happening.

              The great battle painter Vereshchagin described the war as follows in the painting "The Apotheosis of War":

              Moreover, a picture was painted from nature, from a mountain of human skulls, cut off by Turkmen bashibuzks.

              By the way, there was a "Turkish trace" in that war ...

              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              Most likely, the "north wind" blew there. Not directly, of course, just some kind of support came. It is not just that the Azerbaijanis got stuck there. And for some reason, Erdogan's "friend" called the "lordly".
              As they say, we played and woke up ..
              The adults came.

              God forbid ...
              1. 0
                9 November 2020 15: 15
                Quote: Divan-batyr
                Moreover, a picture was painted from nature, from a mountain of human skulls, cut off by Turkmen bashibuzks.

                Interesting information. Did not know.
                Thank you for broadening my horizons.
                1. +2
                  9 November 2020 15: 21
                  Quote: Alexey Sommer
                  Interesting information.

                  In addition, during the civil war in the United States, V.V. Vereshchagin, traveling there as an artist, made reports to the military department of the Republic of Ingushetia.
                  And he died like a soldier during the explosion and sinking of the battleship "Petropavlovsk", the flagship of the 1st Pacific Squadron, in Port Arthur.
                2. +4
                  9 November 2020 15: 26
                  Quote: Alexey Sommer
                  Interesting information. Did not know.
                  Thank you for broadening my horizons.

                  Return your horizons to the previous radius, do not trust the first comer. Better to take an interest in the history of the painting, and in general, in the work of Vereshchagin.
                3. +1
                  10 November 2020 05: 06
                  Interesting information. Did not know.
                  Thank you for broadening my horizons.

                  You need to expand your horizons on your own: - looking, finding, comprehending, ... - but, not on the basis of dubious comments !!! ...
                  There was no opportunity at one time to visit the libraries ... - Vika Gugul is in your hands ... But, God forbid, take everything on faith ... and do not form your worldview under the influence of angorated comments ... - Be sure: - the commentator knew a little more, since he so loosely jangles (juggles) facts ... - don't be so naive, don't fill up the flock of false prophets ...
                  Sincerely.
              2. +1
                9 November 2020 15: 37
                Quote: Divan-batyr
                Moreover, a picture was painted from nature, from a mountain of human skulls, cut off by Turkmen bashibuzks.

                You have been corrected. About Petropavlovsk converges. But about a citizen in the United States, the same is not docking.
              3. NTD
                +1
                9 November 2020 15: 47
                Quote: Divan-batyr
                The great battle painter Vereshchagin described the war as follows in the painting "The Apotheosis of War":

                Dear, just the Armenians had to quietly and silently accept what Heydar Aliyev offered them, broad autonomy within Azerbaijan with self-government. Analogue of Tatarstan. No, they didn't want to. Good. Then they had a chance with 4 UN and European Parliament resolutions, did they fulfill the conditions? No! Let's go further. Further, the OSCE where Russia, the United States and France developed the Madrid principle. 5 + 2 + after a certain time a referendum. What did Pashinyan say? Go all 3 letters, Karabakh, this is Armenia, period! Aliyev showed him an exclamation mark. Further .... of course war is terrible, people are dying, but what does a citizen of Armenia, born in Armenia, and even with a weapon in Karabakh, do against the owners of the land?

                So there is not a drop of irony here ............... They could keep turning this barrel organ, but with the posters Russia invader Armenia and get out of Armenia, they made an irreparable mistake. They have been tolerated for so long with their NATO antics and anti-Russian antics in the OSCE and the UN vote against Russia.

                So there is nothing to feel sorry for them. They are reaping what they have sown long ago. You cannot bite the hand of a nursing person. And God gives to the patient. Pashinyan is in real life zero without a stick and Azerbaijan took advantage of this. It's a sin not to use it. Whoever has brains would all use this moment.
                1. +1
                  9 November 2020 16: 24

                  motorized infantry (motorized infantry)
                  1
                  April 8 2018 03: 59
                  +1
                  Karabakh: mine, laid under the "Syrian trio"

                  ....... For Azerbaijan, Aliyev has a great chance to change the situation in his favor (well, at least somehow). Judge for yourself, let's just say that the senior partners of the parties to the conflict are getting closer, albeit about another country. This makes it possible for Aliyev to initiate some kind of progress. Here is the threat for the Turks that others can bypass them in influencing Azerbaijan, here is the desire of Turkey and Russia to strengthen the emerging cooperation and the desire to protect it from unnecessary overloads. No, don't say this is a chance. For some reason I am sure that Aliyev will not let him go, but I think he will not wag the club and self-destruct against himself, the Turks, and the Iranians, and the Russians to please the Americans and the Jews. You can do it beautifully. In any case, this is probably a good strategy for Azerbaijan .......

                  In general, this was intuitively felt back in April 2018. Only the "genius" of Pashinyan, Yu allowed Aliyev to use the club.
                  1. NTD
                    0
                    9 November 2020 16: 54
                    Quote: motorized infantryman
                    In general, this was intuitively felt back in April 2018. Only the "genius" of Pashinyan, Yu allowed Aliyev to use the club.

                    Feels my heart, Pashinyan †
              4. 0
                10 November 2020 04: 57
                Moreover, a picture was painted from nature, from a mountain of human skulls, cut off by Turkmen bashibuzks.

                Cut off, carefully boiled, gnawed and lovingly assembled, creatively laid out ...
                Are you out of your mind? Have you seen what human skulls look like?
                About what "from nature" are you talking about? About what Turkish trace? The painting was painted in 1871 under the impression of visiting China!
                It’s strange that you don’t cite anything later as proof !!
                Although there is a hint ...- "By the way, there was a" Turkish trace "in that war ..."
        2. +1
          9 November 2020 15: 36
          It turns out that the victory parade was held, and instead of the winners, they are brought to the parade in coffins, but there is no result. If this goes on, Aliyev will have to wash his ...
          1. NTD
            -2
            9 November 2020 15: 52
            https://www.5-tv.ru/news/318765/edinstvennaa-doroga-dla-evakuacii-izstepanakerta-podvergaetsa-obstrelam-video/

            It was 6 more.
            1. 0
              9 November 2020 15: 57
              Yes, I agree. It is a war crime to kill civilians. The population must leave the battlefield without hindrance. They should have been allowed to pass, not fired upon.
              1. NTD
                +2
                9 November 2020 16: 06
                Quote: gurzuf
                They should have been allowed to pass, not fired upon.

                Yes, I agree with you, the Armenians gave a corridor to Khojaly and then killed the civilian population of Azerbaijan in the 90s. And a couple of days ago, Aliyev told them, I give the corridor ... no shots, unlike the Armenians.
      3. +3
        9 November 2020 16: 12
        Azerbaijani flag in Shusha. This is proof.
        [media = https: //m.youtube.com/watch? feature = youtu.be & v = So7e9mRblfY]
    2. +3
      9 November 2020 14: 10
      People are dying for metal! For someone's interests, for someone's income and dividends ... Those who live in Karabakh do not need this war at all. Everything will pass, the dead cannot be returned
      1. NTD
        -7
        9 November 2020 14: 22
        Quote: Invoce
        People are dying for metal! For someone's interests, for someone's income and dividends ...

        I think it is unreasonable to write that way. What do you mean for someone's interests? Is it someone's interests to restore the country's territorial integrity?
        1. +16
          9 November 2020 14: 28
          So did they take Shushi or not? Just answer yes-no!
          1. +10
            9 November 2020 14: 39
            Quote: ASAD
            So did they take Shushi or not? Just answer yes-no!

            Don't push them! They feel sick even without you ...
            1. NTD
              -4
              9 November 2020 15: 01
              Quote: Divan-batyr
              Don't push them! They feel sick even without you ...

              There is considerable truth in your words. We really feel sick. Our land is recognized by everyone and those who recognize it are now acting back. That is, they say one thing, sign another, and reality is different with everything. And there were many of them. Reading the president's interview, I can imagine what his nerves are. There is one journalist as if not a journalist but a prosecutor. I couldn't bear it. And there are a lot of such pissed off journalists who muddy the waters. So there is no small burden on Aliyev's shoulders. I couldn't do like him. He clearly has good preparation and can hide emotions and clearly his nerves are in order. Check out this stuff from BBC https://haqqin.az/news/193453

              Moreover, everyone here is worried about the state of the ancient monastery in Shusha (which in real life has nothing to do with them), but at the same time, as the Armenian side destroys and desecrates our mosques, everyone is silent. Everyone talks about barmaley, but no one talks about mercenaries from all over the world, from Kurds to Frenchmen on the territory of Azerbaijan (Karabakh) And even more, I don't understand what the Armenians still have to do against Russia, I repeat the Armenians, and not just the government, so that Russia will understand that the Armenians are the same allies for Russia as the United States is for Turkey.

              Heavy topic .............
              1. 0
                9 November 2020 15: 44
                Well, maybe you don't need to repeat this - "so that people in Russia will understand." Russian Foreign Ministry its position on Your problems set out clearly. And if memory serves, then you or someone from your fellow countrymen, at this forum addressed the Russian Foreign Ministry very briefly - Bravo of the Russian Foreign Ministry. So what else do you want from us?
                1. NTD
                  +1
                  9 November 2020 15: 53
                  Quote: gurzuf
                  So what else do you want from us?

                  And where did I write that I want something from you?)
                  1. +2
                    9 November 2020 15: 59
                    And this is not your quote - "so that Russia understands that the Armenians are the same allies for Russia as the United States is for Turkey"?
                    1. NTD
                      0
                      9 November 2020 16: 07
                      Quote: gurzuf
                      And this is not your quote - "so that Russia understands that the Armenians are the same allies for Russia as the United States is for Turkey"?

                      and WHAT DOES want from you? ))) I just expressed my opinion .......... I wonder why .......... and you wrote as if I demand something from you))))))) ))))
                      1. -2
                        9 November 2020 16: 50
                        You now look like your fellow countrymen who trade with US in the markets. Money is counted professionally, and if something - mine does not understand yours.
          2. NTD
            -1
            9 November 2020 14: 54
            Quote: ASAD
            So did they take Shushi or not? Just answer yes-no!

            I can briefly say YES or NO to you, you just do not accept the answer anyway. On this I will justify you in detail. Yesterday the President of Azerbaijan told the whole world that we returned Shusha! Will he lie to the whole world? So far, everything he said, everything was confirmed, although there was news that it was a lie. As with Hadrut, As well as with the border to Armenia and so on. Has the Armenian side posted a refutation of this news? No. At least 1 video from the center of Shushi? No. What does this mean? Even if they show me the video, they need a date. Evidence that the video was filmed after Ilham Aliyev said. Do you have such videos? Draw conclusions .......................

            Why doesn't the Azerbaijani side show the video? 1) Let's go. But given the above written about the video, I have no reason to think that the president is lying. 2) Azerbaijan, if you remember, showed cities with a delay of a day or two. Why? Because it is necessary to show the video so that the enemy does not guess anything about the plans of the army, not about the number and location of the army. In general, if we speak in honor and conscience, Azerbaijan has prepared thoroughly for this war. Considering the traitors identified in 2016 and earlier, it was definitely the right decision to shut down all social and media sites. A very correct step. And these ingenious identification of enemy equipment using the AN-2 is generally nonsense. I would not have thought of that. Everything says that they have thought of everything in detail. And accordingly, they will speak and show with great caution, and I will even believe what they may say about the capture of one city in order to confuse the enemy and so that the enemy sends forces where the Azerbaijani side needs to be destroyed on the way from point A to point B. Example ... https://haqqin.az/news/193459 (new news) or take another city.

            Hope I answered your question.
            1. +5
              9 November 2020 15: 04
              Quote: MTN
              Will he lie to the whole world?

              Why not ? He lied about the terrorist mercenaries?
              And he also had the audacity to demand an apology from Macron (although that guy is still the same ...).
              1. NTD
                -1
                9 November 2020 15: 18
                Quote: Divan-batyr
                He lied about the terrorist mercenaries?

                Who are these mercenaries? nationality - language - faith
                1. +1
                  9 November 2020 15: 24
                  Nationality - Bashibuzuki. But they have no faith; they went against Allah. And you don't have it, since they were called.
                  1. NTD
                    +3
                    9 November 2020 16: 04
                    Quote: Divan-batyr
                    Nationality - Bashibuzuki. And they have no faith.

                    This is the Kurds from the Kurdistan Workers' Party and half of the world of mercenaries from Syria to France that they are fighting for them is their Bashi-bazuki nationality and there is definitely no faith.

                    Quote: Divan-batyr
                    They went against Allah. And you don't have it, since they were called.

                    How I do not like to communicate with those who know nothing but write like a couch expert of level 80. Okay, I'll chew it. Since you have written about Allah ........ then listen. In Islam, in 3 cases it is allowed to punish the enemy. 1) If the enemy desecrated your home (the Armenians destroyed a lot of houses. Aghdam alone is worth it) 2) If the enemy desecrated your people (the Armenians killed peaceful people in Kholdaly, the real genocide was organized not only for them. They did the same in the Iravan Khanate and in Baku and Guba) 3) If the enemy has desecrated your mosque. (Armenians graze pigs there while the Armenian Church in Baku is in excellent condition, vandals) that is, according to 3 permitted points, they are entitled to a real Jihad. This is your answer for Allah. (By the way, religious wars, Ishil and the like are all from ignorance and lack of knowledge of correct Islam)

                    Quote: Divan-batyr
                    And you don't have it, since they were called.

                    One of the most unpleasant words to God is when a person says about another that you have faith or not. Since everyone is responsible for their soul. And a person who does not have faith, before dying, can do something that goes to heaven. This is your answer for FAITH.

                    And now I am writing to you the answer for those who were called. The President of Azerbaijan told the journalist a beautiful proposal. Before blaming, look at the mirror first. Why are you silent about the Kurds from the PKKK terrorist organization who are fighting for the Armenians? Ignorant Muslims against Muslims. (God says whoever takes over the property or life of someone with whom of the same faith will not go to heaven) why are you not talking about Arabs from Syria and Lebanon? Do I address the same words to them? Why don't you talk about Christian fans I can show you pictures from France to Rossisi who are also fighting for Armenians? Turks to Azerbaijan can call only Turkomans, whose identity and language and faith are the same with us. We all lived under the same country during the Safavid Empire.

                    Good luck ....
              2. NTD
                -2
                9 November 2020 15: 18
                Quote: Divan-batyr
                And he also had the audacity to demand an apology from Macron (although that guy is still the same ...).

                Not an apology, but facts, which he has not presented to this day. So who's insolent?
            2. +1
              9 November 2020 15: 10
              : D aha, raising the flag over the monastery, which the Azerbaijanis "accidentally" bombed and which everyone knows as a symbol of the city (unlike those sheds where the flag was raised earlier) would very much reveal the plans of the army: D
              PS So you took Shushi or not?
              1. NTD
                -4
                9 November 2020 15: 20
                Quote: Ulrih
                very much opened army plans

                Quote: Ulrih
                raising the flag over the monasteryWhich Azerbaijanis

                I have nothing to add, you yourself answered your own question. Allocated if you do not understand. Good luck.
                1. -1
                  9 November 2020 15: 29
                  Opened the Azerbaijanis over the monastery - is that correct? Maybe there is still a comma? And what is the answer?
                  Oh yes, did Shushi die or not?
            3. -1
              9 November 2020 15: 12
              I willingly believe you. It's hard to disagree with you. Everyone who doesn't believe you is "rubbish", like that journalist from the BBC. You reveal them with the help of An - 2 ...
              Sincerely
              1. NTD
                -4
                9 November 2020 15: 22
                Quote: nobody75
                All who do not believe you are "rubbish"

                And to believe there? You have read A but missed B. The president responded with dignity to the provocation of this journalist, and she could not answer. Shavala !!!!!!!
                Quote: nobody75
                You use An - 2 to identify them ...

                Air defense was not detected? Revealed! Destroyed? Destroyed!
                Good luck.
                1. +1
                  9 November 2020 15: 25
                  I wrote that I believe you! And again you are unhappy ...
                  And the air defense is probably "criminal", since it is "exposed" ...
                  Sincerely
                  1. NTD
                    0
                    9 November 2020 16: 55
                    Quote: nobody75
                    And the air defense is probably "criminal", since it is "exposed" ...

                    Air defense began to be destroyed because Azerbaijan is taking air. And then the drones. Then you yourself know everything
                    1. 0
                      9 November 2020 17: 05
                      And I believe you again ... I believe the second month ... Believe the third?
                      Sincerely
          3. +1
            9 November 2020 14: 56
            The ASAD answer will probably be yes no, but you can place the commas as you see fit! !! laughing
            1. +1
              9 November 2020 15: 06
              I think so, no!
            2. +1
              9 November 2020 15: 08
              Apparently, on some sections of the highway (and around) there are Armenian units, on others - Azerbaijani. Mixed up. Therefore, it seems to both sides that they have surrounded the enemy.
              And in Shusha: a part of the city belongs to the Azerbaijanis, and a part to the Armenians.
              1. -3
                9 November 2020 15: 27
                Apparently, on some sections of the highway (and around) there are Armenian units, on others - Azerbaijani.

                They opened barbecue and car services ... Soon food markets will open ... And they are fighting like this in order to comply with social distancing measures ...
                Sincerely
                1. +2
                  9 November 2020 15: 37
                  What does this have to do with it? Heavy fighting is taking place there. In mountainous and urban areas, the units of the two sides are often mixed, and it is difficult to capture the overall picture of the battle.
                  1. 0
                    9 November 2020 15: 44
                    Oil painting of the battle - Armenians are sitting in Shusha. The Azerbaijanis grew wiser, and decided not to storm the city on the move, but to take it into the ring. But the Azerbaijanis do not have heavy equipment, since the supply of the group goes along a country road, which the Armenians are firing at. As a result, the Azerbaijanis try "interesting" tactics - they seep in small groups, unite and try to seize the heights around Shusha. But they do not have the strength to completely blockade the city. The same for the assault. Such a wise tactic at Lachin has already failed. We will see how this whole circus with horses near Shusha will end by evening. In war, all sorts of miracles happen.
                    Sincerely
                    1. +4
                      9 November 2020 16: 00
                      The reality is:
                      1. 0
                        9 November 2020 16: 13
                        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                        The reality is:

                        Now everyone who did not believe will be helped by Chupa Chups! wink
                        1. -1
                          9 November 2020 17: 07
                          Why are you so frank about your addictions ...
                          Sincerely
          4. +1
            9 November 2020 15: 23
            Quote: ASAD
            So did they take Shushi or not? Just answer yes-no!

            Yes, no ... They didn't, yes ... Shusha Schrodinger: she was taken and not taken at the same time ...
          5. NTD
            +1
            9 November 2020 15: 30
            Quote: ASAD
            So did they take Shushi or not? Just answer yes-no!

            Go to the Russian website https://iz.ru/1084521/2020-11-09/korrespondent-izvestii-rasskazal-o-khode-boev-za-shushi-v-karabakhe
            The article was posted on November 9, 2020, 10:39 That is, this morning. And there are materials from 2 cities. While they prepare the material, they will cut what is needed and what is not. Minimum 1 day. (The guy's video was filmed on the 6th. That is, 3 days ago, that's the fact https://www.5-tv.ru/news/318765/edinstvennaa-doroga-dla-evakuacii-izstepanakerta-podvergaetsa-obstrelam-video/)

            Look carefully at the road as all the Armenians run away from Stepanakert ........ and then look they are in Shusha and there is no one there. That is, the people were evacuated. Yesterday afternoon (the weather is bright) Aliyev announced his capture in the evening.

            Read further

            https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4564779 - Российский сайт.
            Come on down and read this moment

            Another video looked more believable: it was filmed from a car stuck in a traffic jam on a mountain road. The license plates of all the neighboring cars were Armenian, and there were raindrops on the windshield - this was exactly the weather in Nagorno-Karabakh on the afternoon of November 8.

            The authorities of the self-proclaimed NKR did not answer Kommersant's questions about the evacuation of the civilian population from Shushi and Stepanakert.


            Then again the Russian site - https://www.5-tv.ru/news/318884/istocnik-soobsil-obevakuacii-zensin-idetej-izstepanakerta/
            The news was published on Nov 7, 21:30 that is 2 days ago. And now we read.

            It is reported that virtually none of the most vulnerable part of the population remained in the city. The source also speaks of the extremely tense situation in the city of Shushi, located in the immediate vicinity of Stepanakert. According to him, the settlement is practically located under the control of the Azerbaijani army.


            1. -1
              9 November 2020 15: 33
              Aliyev said: "Rakhat". And everyone should shout - "Lokum". Those who are against - khan's fat tail.
              Sincerely
          6. +3
            9 November 2020 16: 00
            Quote: ASAD
            took Shushi

            Have taken.
            1. +1
              9 November 2020 16: 44
              And where are the traces of battles and blood stains from thousands of corpses? What, has everything been cleaned and repaired and washed? It seems that a small polar fur-bearing animal came to visit the Armenians. hi
              Good luck hi
          7. +1
            9 November 2020 16: 25
            Two days ago we took a video today.
        2. -1
          9 November 2020 15: 24
          Quote: MTN
          Quote: Invoce
          People are dying for metal! For someone's interests, for someone's income and dividends ...

          I think it is unreasonable to write that way. What do you mean for someone's interests? Is it someone's interests to restore the country's territorial integrity?

          You will study the history of states! NKR separated from Azerbaijan at the time when the USSR collapsed! They also joined Karabakh by a strong-willed decision at the suggestion of the "lobbyists". Armenia, too, does not climb into its territories. The main driving force of this conflict is the geopolitical interests of Turkey, the United States and their hatred of the USSR, Russia, the Slavs, Orthodoxy ... Aiming at Russian Resources and sales markets ...
          This is the consequence. People are dying not for their own or not their territories, but for someone's interests. Karabakh belongs to the inhabitants of this region, and everything else is dancing with a tambourine
    3. +4
      9 November 2020 14: 12
      Finally, both those and others went to lie!
    4. +8
      9 November 2020 14: 12
      Already fed up.
      Naglo vrut obe sideroni.
    5. +9
      9 November 2020 14: 12
      The video was not presented, Aliyev is coming out while he lied about the capture of Shushi, now it is clear why Azerbaijanis were banned from accessing the Internet.
      And I think that Azerbaijan's losses have already exceeded several thousand for a long time, most likely they are trying to cover up and take Shushi with their hats at any cost, but the Armenians are still holding on, although their position is unenviable. Against Turkey and its barmaley with Azerbaijanis in the wings, the fate of Karabakh is a foregone conclusion.
      1. +8
        9 November 2020 14: 23
        They will take Shusha for another 5 days. We just went to the outskirts. November 9 is a holiday for Azeri - we need to announce a break. The losses were over several thousand on both sides. The capture of Shushi is an important milestone for the Azeri. This is an excellent base for further operations and a symbol for both sides.
        Well, the stories of Armenians about the Turks are reminiscent of the stories of the Ukrainians about the Chechens under every bush in the Donbass. It is necessary to justify the defeat. request A couple of thousand Syrian greenery certainly did not make the weather. They simply reduced the losses of the Azerbaijani troops themselves. Barmaleev is not sorry for anyone. request
        And in fact, the defeat of the Armenians has two main fathers - the Armenian elites, who merge the NKR and Aliyev, who perfectly prepared for the war.
        1. 0
          9 November 2020 16: 46
          And in fact, the defeat of the Armenians has two main fathers - the Armenian elites, who merge the NKR and Aliyev, who perfectly prepared for the war.

          I do not think that Aliyev would have dared to undertake such a military operation alone without Erdogan behind his back. But in general, this disposition, in principle, was against Armenia, Karabakh is officially the territory of Azerbaijan, legally it has every right to conduct a military operation and attract any allies.
      2. +1
        9 November 2020 16: 30
        Quote: Airdefense
        The video was not presented,
        Already presented. hi
        1. +1
          9 November 2020 16: 49
          Well then, congratulations to all fans of Azerbaijan, this is definitely a difficult knockdown for Armenia in the Karabakh battle.
    6. +5
      9 November 2020 14: 13
      So far, one thing is clear - there are battles in the Shushi region and its capture threatens both Stepanakert and the Lachin corridor.
      As for the rest, the propaganda machines of both sides work to maintain the spirit and patriotism of their populations, so there is no need to expect more detailed and truthful information from them yet.
    7. +8
      9 November 2020 14: 14
      This video is very strange. The crew put the tank under attack. And it stands in the line waiting for its destruction. One of the tankers, just before the defeat, ran up, probably forgot something, and again a confusion. This is very strange.
      1. +13
        9 November 2020 14: 18
        A buzz was heard, then the characteristic howl of a diving Harop. But people managed to pick up a pack of cigarettes laughing
      2. BAI
        +6
        9 November 2020 14: 39
        What does it mean that this is an Armenian tank? It has already been noted more than once that equipment is destroyed by drones as at a training ground. What does one tank do on the road? Why did he stand there? The feat of the Rasenyai tank does not give rest? M. b. real shooting is diluted with staged, to raise morale?
        1. +1
          9 November 2020 14: 58
          The Aliyev-Erdogan agitprom, covered from the air by Zionism sponsored by American imperialism, issues ridiculous low-standard videos directed by Guzman-Bul-Bul Oglu for the allegedly successful use of the powerless in front of Krasukha 1-2-3 and the Sequel, Rubella and Banzid, BLA-Israel -Behind, made on the knee of a Palestinian guest worker operated by the Rothschild-Chubais clique, against the crown of high-tech technology Ar • Tsakh (Azerbaijan SSR) - the T-72EBTS tank negative
          1. BAI
            +1
            9 November 2020 15: 25
            1. Tanks do not fight alone.
            2. This is how they fight, and even after Spike, who got on by, continue to fight.

            1. 0
              9 November 2020 16: 10
              Was that really Spike?
              And the tanks are not patrolling "alone"? ))
              1. +1
                9 November 2020 16: 25
                No, it was an art shell for the rear of the tank - a bit missed.
            2. 0
              9 November 2020 16: 36
              Are there really Armenians on the video? This fighter is wearing zero form and new boots. And most importantly, he carries all his goods on himself. But the Armenians are the defending side. Why should they carry everything on themselves? Well, unless, of course, they were already not going to run.
              1. +1
                9 November 2020 16: 50
                Swollen Do you know what this unit is? Maybe these are reinforcements fighting their way to their own, blocked in the city
      3. 0
        9 November 2020 16: 49
        "The crew, as it were, exposed the tank under attack. And it stands in the line waiting for its destruction" ////
        -----
        Perhaps the tank was out of fuel.
    8. +6
      9 November 2020 14: 15
      The weather improved, the homing drones-kamikaze hummed. It will be hard for Armenians in Shushi.
      1. +1
        9 November 2020 16: 01
        ... the homing kamikaze drones whirred

        And I'm still waiting to see if the Armenians will guess to put some kind of grates / panoramas with a grid on top of the tanks (sold in hardware stores)) / ... or won't they? On kraynyak you can also trade table from your favorite bazaar))
        It seems that they don't care.
        1. +1
          9 November 2020 16: 57
          "And I'm still waiting to see if the Armenians will guess to put some kind of grilles on the tanks on top" ////
          -----
          I'm not sure if Harop has a cumulative warhead.
          He just has powerful explosives there.
          And kinetic impact. Sweep away the grate.
          The effect is achieved by directly hitting vulnerable spots from above.
          1. 0
            9 November 2020 19: 51
            I'm not sure if Harop has a cumulative warhead.

            And I'm not talking about him, but about Bayraktar ammunition MAM-L and MAM-C. They were used more than Harop.
    9. +4
      9 November 2020 14: 18
      It seems to be the 21st century. Satellites, smartphones, internet. But how in 1941 nothing is known.
      1. 0
        9 November 2020 19: 38
        One was already reporting live from the church (possibly with geolocation). The charge flew in immediately and for sure - a heap of corpses, wounded, but it seems alive!
        Conclusions?..
    10. +5
      9 November 2020 14: 20
      They twist, stir up ... politicians don't know any other way, it seems.
      You can call victory a defeat, assign someone else's "laurels", but the result will still be obvious, no matter how cool it is.
    11. +4
      9 November 2020 14: 23
      The situation becomes like a skirmish at the bazaar: "My tomatoes are better and redder than the neighbors. No, your pomies are wormy."
    12. -8
      9 November 2020 14: 27
      And the asphalt there, apparently, is good. Not what they put on our roads.
      1. -1
        9 November 2020 14: 50
        What are yours? In the former Ukraine?
    13. +7
      9 November 2020 14: 29
      The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, which reported to President Ilham Aliyev the previous morning about taking full control of the Karabakh city of Shushi
      Shushi was not taken, but loud statements of the padishah have already sounded! I heard that in the East they cut off the head of those who deceived the padishah.
      1. +3
        9 November 2020 14: 39
        And they started, it seems, with Azerbaijani commentators here on VO. How blown away!
      2. +1
        9 November 2020 16: 26
        Unfortunately for the Armenians, they took it, and judging by the video, there is no military action on the Armenian side at all.
      3. +1
        9 November 2020 16: 40
        Quote: Vladimir61
        The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, which reported to President Ilham Aliyev the previous morning about taking full control of the Karabakh city of Shushi
        Shushi was not taken, but loud statements of the padishah have already sounded! I heard that in the East they cut off the head of those who deceived the padishah.
        The video has already been posted. Take a look.
        1. +1
          9 November 2020 20: 32
          Quote: Seal
          The video has already been posted. Take a look.

          This is today, and the padishah's statements were yesterday. As the humorist Kartsev said, - "Today the crabs cost five rubles, and yesterday there were three." This is a local war and the situation in it can change by the hour.
    14. -13
      9 November 2020 14: 31
      Quote: g1v2

      A couple of thousand Syrian greenery certainly did not make the weather. They simply reduced the losses of the Azerbaijani troops themselves ..

      Another Armenian disinformation. Azerbaijan has an army of more than 120 thousand people, there is no point in mercenaries. But among the Armenians, there is just continuous desertion, the commanders handcuff the soldiers at their posts. The Armenian diaspora transports militants from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kurds, etc. on chartered planes. But the mercenaries do not win wars, so Armenia will have to return the occupied territories, since they did not want to return peacefully within 30 years, then they will probably have to return by military means.
      1. +7
        9 November 2020 14: 42
        Hey, stop headbanging, you’re not there.
      2. +5
        9 November 2020 14: 45
        Ahahahahahaha, again political information about handcuffs :)
      3. +1
        9 November 2020 15: 06
        And how many thousand of these 120 are prepared and at least once fired from a grenade launcher? Sending conscript infantry to storm Lachin is a sure road to great losses and unpopularity with the people.
        1. +3
          9 November 2020 15: 13
          So far, the fighting shows that the Azerbaijani army is acting quite professionally. But among Armenians, with rare exceptions, the main slogan is dementia and courage!
          1. +1
            9 November 2020 15: 18
            The victory may be Pyrrhic, but we'll see.
    15. -4
      9 November 2020 14: 36
      Quote: Airdefense
      The video was not presented, Aliyev is coming out while he lied about the capture of Shushi, now it is clear why Azerbaijanis were banned from accessing the Internet.
      And I think that Azerbaijan's losses have already exceeded several thousand for a long time, most likely they are trying to cover up and take Shushi with their hats at any cost, but the Armenians are still holding on, although their position is unenviable. Against Turkey and its barmaley with Azerbaijanis in the wings, the fate of Karabakh is a foregone conclusion.

      Armenia has already lost more than 4 out of 7 occupied regions of Azerbaijan and part of Karabakh. Internet access in Azerbaijan is partially blocked to avoid Armenian cyber attacks, there is a war, all methods are used
    16. +1
      9 November 2020 14: 38
      It is necessary to understand Aliyev too .... Yedik can overestimate his importance, in case of defeat and write off to compost. So Alla-I-in-the-bar scolded yesterday the victory before Ulusi, and now the mighty Turanian army is desperately looking for at least a cowshed in Shushi to score a flag and shoot. laughing
    17. +1
      9 November 2020 14: 48
      I realized one thing! Armenia and Azerbaijan are whispering among themselves and do not want to show anyone what they did to each other there laughing love
    18. 0
      9 November 2020 14: 52
      It seems that the non-recognition of the NKR by Armenia is already devoid of any sense, it was possible to delay with this while the negotiations were going on and there was still hope to reach a compromise, but this opportunity has already been missed.
    19. 0
      9 November 2020 14: 53
      Quote: stepan53274
      Quote: g1v2

      A couple of thousand Syrian greenery certainly did not make the weather. They simply reduced the losses of the Azerbaijani troops themselves ..

      Another Armenian disinformation. Azerbaijan has an army of more than 120 thousand people, there is no point in mercenaries. But among the Armenians, there is just continuous desertion, the commanders handcuff the soldiers at their posts. The Armenian diaspora transports militants from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kurds, etc. on chartered planes. But the mercenaries do not win wars, so Armenia will have to return the occupied territories, since they did not want to return peacefully within 30 years, then they will probably have to return by military means.

      Misinformation speaks from Armenia about the mercenaries, and he himself gives out some nonsense about "planes of militants from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kurds, etc." Hmm ....
      Azerbaijan needs militants as "meat". So that later there would be fewer questions to Aliyev from their own citizens.
    20. +1
      9 November 2020 14: 55
      Quote: stepan53274
      Quote: g1v2

      A couple of thousand Syrian greenery certainly did not make the weather. They simply reduced the losses of the Azerbaijani troops themselves ..

      Armenia will have to return the occupied territories, since they didn’t want to return it peacefully for 30 years, then it will probably have to be returned by military means.

      When will occupied Azerbaijan return to Russia?
    21. +1
      9 November 2020 14: 59
      The video looks like Spikes hitting the technique.
    22. +4
      9 November 2020 15: 01
      When a message appears that "Pskov paratroopers", Putin's cooks, Alfa and Vympel are fighting on the side of the Armenians in Karabakh, then the Azerbaijani offensive has definitely failed on all fronts.
    23. +3
      9 November 2020 15: 02
      Well, today is a State Holiday in Azerbaijan! Aliyev can no longer be stopped - Shushi is not enough, today he announced the capture of 23 more villages in six regions around Nagorno-Karabakh.
      1. +3
        9 November 2020 15: 10
        The main thing is that Ulan Bator is not released in the park!
        1. -1
          9 November 2020 15: 12
          I'm more worried about Iran. laughing
    24. 0
      9 November 2020 15: 04

      The parties have changed places and roles. The weather has improved and the Azerbaijanis not only have the advantage of being in the city and at a height, but also knock out Armenian equipment and artillery with drone UAVs. In fact, if the Armenians fail to cope with the task of returning Shushi, they will lose their last reserves.
      I disagree only with Podolyak in his speeches about betrayal, the reason for the mistakes is most likely easier to explain, the Armenians in the first decades lost most of the command staff of the rank from captain to colonel.
    25. 0
      9 November 2020 15: 04
      It is quite obvious that it becomes very difficult to navigate in the reports, when each side declares their victories and endless defeats of the enemy.(C)
      The game was equal, there were two ... players lol
    26. -2
      9 November 2020 15: 05
      I’m wondering why Armenia doesn’t buy the same unmanned aerial vehicles from Israel and doesn’t put them into business?
      From a propaganda point of view, it would be worth doing, besides, they are not only produced by Israel and Turkey. There are also a number of countries.
      1. +1
        9 November 2020 15: 35
        Quote: Herman 4223
        why doesn't Armenia buy the same unmanned aerial vehicles from the same Israel and use them in business?
        Armenia is an impoverished country with a bunch of debts and a population en masse going to work in Russia and other countries. Where did she get the money for foreign weapons ?!
      2. +1
        9 November 2020 15: 40
        Firstly, now it is too late to talk about it, now only really old and reliable partners can supply the parties with weapons, since there is a war going on.
        Secondly, the Armenians had a choice only between Iran and China, but even their UAVs are expensive for Armenia.

        If we had, we could deliver on a preferential loan, consider donating, but we ourselves are only just starting their production and proceeding to testing. There would be more sense than from the Su-30, it is not clear why we generally agreed to supply them to the Armenians.
        Plus, they hoped to have time to launch their own production of kamikaze drones, they have them, but even here the Armenians were late.
        1. -1
          9 November 2020 16: 21
          Roads are not expensive, several dozen cheap kamikazes could well be purchased. A Polish kit with control systems, for example, costs $ 12000. Even a poor country can do it. And for propaganda, this is a very good effect. I think that in China they are even cheaper. Shock drones, yes, there are already millions of dollars in the bill, but this is a completely solvable task for the country, if not purchased in large quantities.
      3. +2
        9 November 2020 16: 18
        (why doesn't Armenia buy the same drones from the same Israel.)
        Kedmi coolly answered - We would sell, but Armenia can buy?
    27. +1
      9 November 2020 15: 38
      The demand for Russia to intervene can always be answered with one question - "Why is this Russia?" And if further they start talking about friendship, brotherhood, peace, etc. - it is necessary to end the discussion. We are asked to die because we ourselves have betrayed. "Who are you? Let's goodbye." laughing
    28. +1
      9 November 2020 15: 43
      Armenia, together with its citizens, has long since left the orbit of Russia. Armenia is not a friendly state to Russia.
    29. 0
      9 November 2020 15: 50
      For nationalistic arrogance, pride ... God's punishment will be very harsh for the Armenians, they will not understand, the mainstream of providence will even be terrible ...
    30. -1
      9 November 2020 15: 55
      Aliyev boasted too early, it's not a drone to fight .. Blood flows like a river there, especially from the storming ones.
      1. +2
        9 November 2020 16: 12
        Apparently, the assault ended yesterday - and the Armenians were defeated. In principle, it is not surprising how they drain every city and town or town. The most mediocre command is doing its job.
        1. 0
          9 November 2020 16: 13
          It looks like there were no "hellish" battles. The soldiers are fresh and tidy, there is a minimum of destruction, glass is not even beaten everywhere.
          1. +2
            9 November 2020 16: 27
            Yes, about hellish battles - this is so Armenian noodles for their ears and not only.
    31. +1
      9 November 2020 16: 13
      Awesome !!!! Everyone wants an answer to the question - DID THE SHUSHU ??
      After taking, there is 1.Cleaning, this is not a matter of one day. And until the last NKR soldier has been smoked out of the last cellar, the Armenian propaganda will shout about street battles in Shusha. 2. Armenians understand very well that they have to fight to the death for Shusha. So they throw everything they can into this meat grinder, and even not. So, more than one counter-strike has yet to be repelled, where the city will be beaten off "to the last Armenian." I hope that the Azeri generals understand this.
      And the answer to the question: look at the video of the flight from Khankendi.
      1. 0
        9 November 2020 16: 16
        Yes, they have already. And there were no battles "to the death" and a meat grinder there.
      2. +2
        9 November 2020 16: 30
        - TAKE SHUSHU? This question is finally closed. We are waiting for the next city in which the Armenians, together with Pegov, will attack, crushing hundreds of thousands of Azerbaijan's DRGs and fight to the last Armenian.
      3. -2
        9 November 2020 16: 38
        Quote: izGOI
        Awesome !!!! Everyone wants an answer to the question - DID THE SHUSHU ??
        After taking, there is 1.Cleaning, this is not a matter of one day. And until the last NKR soldier has been smoked out of the last cellar, the Armenian propaganda will shout about street battles in Shusha. 2. Armenians understand very well that they have to fight to the death for Shusha. So they throw everything they can into this meat grinder, and even not. So, more than one counter-strike has yet to be repelled, where the city will be beaten off "to the last Armenian." I hope that the Azeri generals understand this.
        And the answer to the question: look at the video of the flight from Khankendi.

        They wrote very competently, I agree with you .. good hi About that such a cry is on both sides .. You will not understand anything ..)))
    32. +3
      9 November 2020 16: 17
      The first video from Shushi has arrived bully :
      1. -2
        9 November 2020 17: 01
        I do not dispute that Shusha is under your control, or rather your army, as you understand it, the ruffles on your wife's underwear while sitting under her skirt tongue , however, like your local opponents are heroic Armenians.
        Only the video is actually minuscule in the video, the rest are frames from the photos, and the old ones, not yesterday - today.
        Apparently, the city is either not completely cleaned up, or outside, where the destruction was filmed are very large and the bodies have not yet been removed.
    33. +1
      9 November 2020 17: 59
      .Yes, the Azerbaijani army liberated the city of Shusha from the 28-year occupation of the Armenian would-be nationalists through whose fault several thousand young people died from both sides, who had just begun to live. And we all know the names of these war criminals.This is Robert Kocharian, Serzh Sargsyan, Zori Balayan, Silva Kaputikyan, Arayik Harutunyan and other terrorists who are guilty of assisting the collapse of the USSR by inciting ethnic conflict, as well as the genocide of civilians in Khojaly, and about Pashinyan I think that it is just zero, not even pulling on an article in the administrative code. His wife is more criminally liable to Armenians than himself
    34. +1
      10 November 2020 14: 34
      Anyway, with a victory, Azerbaijan!
    35. 0
      10 November 2020 16: 03
      Quote: Vladimir61
      This is a local war and the situation in it can change by the hour.
      And How ? Has something changed a lot? Did the Armenians recapture Shusha and encircle the advancing Azerbaijani units?
    36. 0
      10 November 2020 16: 07
      Quote: Vadim237
      We wait
      We are no longer waiting. The Armenians have won and are marching towards Baku. Pegov is preparing a message about the evacuation of Aliyev to Turkey. laughing
    37. 0
      10 November 2020 16: 14
      Quote: Greenwood
      Armenia is an impoverished country with a bunch of debts and a population en masse going to work in Russia and other countries. Where did she get the money for foreign weapons ?!

      KIRK KRKORYAN (USA)
      FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT of one of the largest corporations in the United States, Tracinda Corporation. In 1978, Time magazine named Kirk Krkorian the country's most successful entrepreneur. Krkorian owned shares in the Chrysler and Ford Motor Company car companies. Today, Krkorian's companies operate the largest gambling houses in the states of Nevada and California: MGM Grand, Flamengo, International Hotel. In 2005, the Washigton Post ranked Krkorian as the second most successful gambling businessman in US history (Benjamin Siegelbaum was the first). Krkorian founded the United Armenian Found and the Lincy Foundation. According to Armenian Bar Co, in the period 1988-2011, Krkorian allocated more than $ 5 billion to Armenia and NKR. He was awarded the degree of National Hero of Armenia.

      STEVEN KANDARYAN (USA). PRESIDENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL insurance company MetLife. Kandaryan's official fortune is estimated at $ 25 billion. About 90% of Fortune 500 companies are corporate clients of MetLife. Today MetLife is also ranked 31st in the list of the 500 largest companies in the world. Steve Kandaryan is one of the largest Armenian philanthropists, but he prefers not to advertise his activities. ABOUTand every year transfers millions of dollars to the accounts of Armenian charitable foundations. His companies provide assistance to the leading Armenian lobbying groups in the United States.

      EDUARDO ERNEKIAN (ARGENTINA) PRESIDENT OF American International Airports and Aeropuertos Argentina 2000. Ernekian's companies operate 32 Argentine airports and the main airports in Uruguay, Ecuador and Armenia. It was at the expense of Eduardo Ernekian's investments that the old terminal of the Zvartnots airport (worth $ 200 million) was reconstructed. In February 2007, Eurnekian bought shares in Converse Bank CJSC (Armenia). Today he is considered the richest businessman in Argentina and is one of the five richest people in South America. Eurnekian is the main financial donor to Armenian organizations in Latin America. Over the past five years, he has invested many millions of dollars in various funds in Armenia and Artsakh. In 2011, Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin II, during his trip to Argentina, ordained Eduardo Ernekian to the Knights of Holy Etchmiadzin.

      And so on and so forth.
      Where is the money, Zin?

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