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The NKR Defense Army launched an operation to destroy the Azerbaijani group in the Shushi region

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The NKR Defense Army launched an operation to destroy the Azerbaijani group in the Shushi region

In the vicinity of the strategically important city of Shushi, an operation began to eliminate a group of Azerbaijani troops trying to capture the city. The official representative of the Armenian Defense Ministry Artsrun Hovhannisyan announced this on his Facebook page.


According to the record, units of the defense army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic on Monday morning began an operation to destroy Azerbaijani troops in the village of Karintak in the vicinity of the city of Shushi. Heavy rocket and artillery fire is being fired at the positions of the Azerbaijani army, and there are reports of heavy losses from Azerbaijani units.

The enemy grouping discovered in the direction of Karintak is destroyed by rocket and artillery strikes. The enemy suffers heavy losses

- stated Hovhannisyan.

In addition, the Armenian Ministry of Defense announces the attempts of the Azerbaijani army to attack in the directions of Martuni, Martakert and Tagavard. In all sectors the enemy was thrown back.

Apart from Shushi, hostilities are unfolding in other directions as well. Enemy attacks were pushed back in the direction of Martuni, Martakert, Tagavard and other places.

- said in a statement.

In turn, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has not yet commented on the battles in the Shushi region, although on the eve both the Azerbaijani military department and President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev announced the capture of this strategically important city.
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  1. KARAKURT777
    KARAKURT777 9 November 2020 12: 51
    -37 qualifying.
    [/ quote] a group of Azerbaijani troops trying to capture the city. [quote]

    The Azerbaijanis took possession of the city on 3-4 days of this month, when they surrounded it from 3 sides. And from the 6th they are already in the city. As usual, Aliyev announced this after 2 days. Photos and videos from the Azerbaijani side do not leak out for security reasons, but from the Armenian side simply for lack of such.
    1. Stavros
      Stavros 9 November 2020 12: 55
      23
      What crap the Cavtatar marshals will not write, just to hide their commander-in-chief)
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        2. genisis
          genisis 9 November 2020 13: 15
          +9
          Send yours to the gorge it will come in handy
          1. Old tanker
            Old tanker 9 November 2020 13: 51
            11
            A single gun slowly "grinds" the groups that entered the "Hell's Gorge" and jeeps and some kind of equipment. Not even funny.
            But it is worth noting the coherence of the actions of the gun crew. I hope that such a calculation is not the only one.
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          3. KARAKURT777
            KARAKURT777 9 November 2020 14: 08
            -12 qualifying.
            Now, for 25 years, will you crow about some gorge?))) The war is on, the facts are on the face, and you bother with gorges wink How is it on the road from Khankendi to Irevan, not ice yet, isn't it?
          4. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 November 2020 15: 40
            -5
            And that your Pegov is not in Shusha, but at an artillery position - is it because there is a city battle in Shusha, or is he generally occupied by the Azerbaijani army?
          5. Runway
            Runway 9 November 2020 16: 01
            +2
            Throw in a southeast direction. Target within 10 km of the OP. If also in the range of the notorious gorge, then the gunners would have given the reporter a bannik along the ridge.
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      2. Stasi
        Stasi 9 November 2020 13: 02
        19
        Quote: Stavros
        What crap the Cavtatar marshals will not write, just to hide their commander-in-chief)

        But it is true that Aliyev has been caught in a lie several times since the attack on the NKR ...
        Mercenary terrorists, the Turkish Air Force, the Turks themselves in battle formations.
        Now Shusha has grown.

        They are there at Aliyev's headquarters, are they all sickly?
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 9 November 2020 13: 15
          +2
          And where does Aliyev go if he got himself into such a "margarine"?))) He is no longer a "tenant" in the political sense - so you can talk about "yars", about the capture of Yerevan and Berlin, no one believes anymore ))))
        2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 14: 15
          +1
          Quote: Stasi
          Mercenary terrorists, the Turkish Air Force, the Turks themselves in battle formations.

          Plus YARS and Hadrut
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 November 2020 15: 05
          +9
          As an independent observer, I will tell you, How many times there was a conviction in a lie Armenia is just a scribe. Dozens of downed planes. Listen to them, so they should have taken Baku.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 15: 28
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I will tell you how many times there has been a lie in Armenia is just

            No one here shields the Armenians. Do not go on a spree in Armenia with lovers of everything colored - everything could be completely different. At the same time, many think that in the course of the present conflict, Pashinyan's masters are simply cutting the knot that hinders the further "integration" of Armenia into "civilization." They do not have a goal to keep NPOs, they have a goal to merge everything that will be required to reach stable agreements between Armenia and Azerbaijan. And so that the people do not squabble, these losses should be legitimized through the war. Nonsense, but after all, the Armenian Armed Forces do not fully harness the NGOs. Nonsense, but Armenia does not recognize NGOs as either its own or free. And among ordinary Armenians, Russia should remain guilty of everything, which did not help (and it does not matter that Armenia itself did not help). And it is especially disgusting that this stupid thought finds a response in the ungrateful brains of many of the inhabitants there. NGOs praise Saakashvili and scold Russia. At the same time, demanding from us to shed our blood for their land. More stupid and flawed in their outrageous cunning position and come up with a way. But there are also many normal and adequate people who are sincerely sorry.
            Azerbaijanis and Armenians will pay with their blood for the interests of their masters in terms of the geopolitical confrontation with Russia. At the same time, the Armenians will lose part of their houses, and the Azerbaijanis will lose their statehood (the Armenians have already, in fact, lost it).
            1. Kapral Alphych
              Kapral Alphych 9 November 2020 16: 00
              +2
              At the same time, many think that in the course of the present conflict, Pashinyan's masters are simply cutting the knot that hinders the further "integration" of Armenia into "civilization." They do not have a goal to keep NPOs, they have a goal to merge everything that will be required to reach stable agreements between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

              As a result, the Armenians will come to NATO through a grudge against us and Soros' henchmen, and the Azeris will be absorbed by Turkey, a NATO member! And alley-oop, the entire Caucasus is a NATO contingent. Further Central Asia and we are in the ring.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 9 November 2020 16: 48
                0
                As a result, Armenians will join NATO

                There is not enough money for NATO standards.
                1. Kapral Alphych
                  Kapral Alphych 9 November 2020 16: 52
                  +1
                  It's enough to arm the meat with old junk. They are not needed for more. For NATO, the main thing is that as few John and Peter as possible die, so that different Ivans, who do not remember kinship, do the dirtiest work for them
                2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 20: 55
                  0
                  Quote: Alex777
                  There is not enough money for NATO standards.

                  Tribalts - countries are oligarchs?
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 10 November 2020 11: 24
                    0
                    Countries are grant-eaters.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 November 2020 16: 00
            0
            And the Armenians consider the same kamikaze drones as downed - shooting down occurs in this way
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 16: 02
              0
              Another interesting video.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 9 November 2020 16: 56
                +2
                This is the video that both believers and non-believers have talked about for a long time.
                Shushi is taken. Aliyev said - so it is.
                https://lenta.ru/news/2020/11/09/shu/
          3. nycsson
            nycsson 9 November 2020 23: 58
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            As an independent observer, I will tell you, How many times there was a conviction in a lie Armenia is just a scribe. Dozens of downed planes. Listen to them, so they should have taken Baku.

            Great Romanov! Long time no see! I almost fell off my chair ..... Since when did you become an independent observer?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 10 November 2020 04: 51
              0
              Hi Niksson! And I don’t climb anywhere else, bust do what they want
        4. Rubina
          Rubina 12 November 2020 22: 39
          0
          Well, what is Shusha there? Still with Armenians or what? So who was lying Aliyev or Pashinyan?
      3. KARAKURT777
        KARAKURT777 9 November 2020 13: 05
        -38 qualifying.
        Do not forget about this "crap", very soon I will call you the name you deserve wink
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 14: 17
          +8
          Quote: KARAKURT777
          very soon I will call you by that name

          You will give out names to your children
          1. KARAKURT777
            KARAKURT777 9 November 2020 14: 27
            -14 qualifying.
            What do you want? Also in a frenzy? wink
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 14: 55
              +5
              Quote: KARAKURT777
              what do you want?

              The same as everyone else. Stop the madness of your bots on the site we read.
      4. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 9 November 2020 14: 21
        +2
        just to hide your commander-in-chief


        Exactly ... if today, tomorrow a video is released from Shushi, full of Armenians eating barbecue, there will be a fundamental bummer, gnashing of teeth and boshkosnya. laughing
        And Aliyev will receive a soapy rope from Edik as a gift ... bully

        The Turanians got a lot of tension.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 16: 03
          +2
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          devouring kebabs

          It looks like the shish kebab is burnt ((
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 November 2020 16: 04
          -2
          "Lathered rope, as a gift." In any case, Pashinyan and all the Defense Ministry of Armenia and Karabakh will receive it, since half of Karabakh has already been ineptly drained, as well as most of the equipment.
        3. Rubina
          Rubina 12 November 2020 22: 40
          0
          Well, where is the video with the Armenians eating stuffing in Shusha? We were tired of waiting in Baku
      5. Peter rybak
        Peter rybak 10 November 2020 10: 28
        0
        Quote: Stavros
        What crap the Cavtatar marshals will not write, just to hide their commander-in-chief)

        The President of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Arayik Harutyunyan stated that the NKR defense army partially lost control over the city of Shushi on November 5, completely on November 7. He wrote about this on his Facebook page.

        “We lost control over the city of Shushi partially on November 5, and completely on November 7. We were forced to make a decision to end the Karabakh war, ”the Karabakh leader said.
    2. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol 9 November 2020 12: 56
      21
      Strange logic, we will not show, because the secret. And they won't show, because there is nothing to show))
      1. KARAKURT777
        KARAKURT777 9 November 2020 13: 04
        -23 qualifying.
        And so far, the statements of the Azerbaijani side have not been confirmed? Or do you naively think that pegs are still hawking shashlik in Hadrut? wink
        1. Kronos
          Kronos 9 November 2020 13: 17
          +2
          It was confirmed that it does not cancel the lies on the part of the Azerbaijanis.
    3. KAVBER
      KAVBER 9 November 2020 12: 56
      14
      Well, in a couple of days we'll see who's lying, why throw beads in vain
    4. tagil
      tagil 9 November 2020 12: 57
      22
      Cheburator as you are already tired of everyone here !!! Now Aliyev will refute these statements, and in the evening you will have mourning, and here you Cheburators will prove that everyone is lying and only you are the bearers of the truth. Isn't it time for you to put drums around your neck and lead a column of people walking from this site into a bright future? In my opinion, it's high time.
      1. Asad
        Asad 9 November 2020 13: 00
        11
        The propagandists from Azerbaijan are despondent!
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 9 November 2020 13: 16
          +2
          They tried so hard as they could))) for almost a month they made a beautiful face, with a poor acting, but there is nowhere else to go)))
        2. Turanov
          Turanov 9 November 2020 16: 10
          -4
          Quote: ASAD
          The propagandists from Azerbaijan are despondent!

          Yesterday they staged dancing in Moscow, now probably the sad ones are sitting in the bazaars ..
    5. Hypertension
      Hypertension 9 November 2020 13: 01
      16
      Quote: KARAKURT777
      Photos and videos from the Azerbaijani side are not leaked for security reasons

      Previously, captured settlements were filmed and shown. With pathos, flag-raising and bravura speeches. And now they took one of the key cities, and - for security reasons ...
    6. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 November 2020 13: 04
      12
      do not leak for security reasons

      Why before any progress was discussed in detail and instantly shown from all sides several times, and there were no considerations, but now, when, as they say, God himself ordered to demonstrate, they immediately became concerned about some kind of security?
      Very illogical.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 9 November 2020 13: 10
        11
        The problem is that the Azerbaijanis were unable to suppress the fortified areas in the zones into which they managed to break through.
        As a result, the logistics of Azerbaijani troops suffer.
        Yes, and actions are being conducted by separate units that have managed to break into a particular area.
        The communications of Azerbaijanis are constantly exposed to real threats.
        It is impossible to solve complex tasks by separate divisions, be they any specialists.
        1. times
          times 9 November 2020 13: 15
          20
          Success in war is highly variable
        2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 14: 37
          +3
          Quote: Livonetc
          Azerbaijanis could not suppress the fortified areas in the zones into which they managed to break through

          To say that they have whole fortified areas in their rear is impossible, of course. But in general, think right. The Azerbaijanis did not manage to organize an offensive in a more or less flat part (east of Stepanokert), since well-coordinated and well-planned actions of troops are needed there to suppress the Armenian fire system, which practically has no "dead zones" on "flat" terrain. They climbed the mountains stupidly because it is easier organizationally. For this, there is no need to engage in detailed planning that is difficult and incomprehensible to Azerbaijani officers, there is no need to teach the troops to interact, etc., etc. You just have to be prepared to suffer great human losses. In the mountains there are more "dead zones" in the defenders' fire system. By the poke method, at the cost of the lives of the infantry, who were exposed to the blows, these dead zones were identified by the Azerbaijanis and small scattered groups seeped through them, gathering in larger strike groups immediately before an attack on a particular settlement, on a particular position. So the offensive went on all these days. As a result, today, when the mass of the NKO troops has shrunk and condensed, the forces infiltrating along the "safe" routes of small groups are no longer sufficient for a successful offensive. It is necessary to somehow fit heavy equipment and bring up large masses of troops. And besides this, as you rightly noted, the communications of the advancing group were stretched along the "dead" zones of the Armenian fire system, inconvenient for movement, along the "paths" trodden by the DRG that had gone ahead.
          1. Runway
            Runway 9 November 2020 16: 39
            0
            Do you seriously think that action in highlands is easier than in plains?
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 22: 38
              -1
              Look at the NPO map.
              AZ approached Stepanakert from the east, from the "flat" side. And they made their first attempts to advance right here. Hence those videos with their burning columns of the initial period of the DB. As a result, they did not manage to advance here and climbed around: from the south through the mountains, along a much longer path.
              Which is easier for whom: to competently plan an operation and train units and subunits to competently interact with artillery, etc., or stupidly send the infantry to perish in the mountains, looking for dead zones in the enemy's fire system at the cost of their lives - here each commander decides for himself. AZ obviously made their choice
        3. Rubina
          Rubina 12 November 2020 22: 42
          0
          We decided, however
    7. sevtrash
      sevtrash 9 November 2020 13: 05
      +9
      Quote: KARAKURT777
      The Azerbaijanis took possession of the city on 3-4 days of this month, when they surrounded it from 3 sides. And from the 6th they are already in the city. As usual, Aliyev announced this after 2 days. Photos and videos from the Azerbaijani side do not leak out for security reasons, but from the Armenian side simply for lack of such.

      Something is not similar. What other security considerations? Show the city on video, which is known to Armenians inside and out? Maybe some separate sabotage groups entered and left? This is most likely the case, the city was partially overlaid, some groups infiltrate, but it is not worth talking about taking over the city. Although the advantage in forces is clearly with the Azerbaijanis. True, along with the Turks and Arabs mercenaries.
      1. Stavros
        Stavros 9 November 2020 13: 17
        11
        So they showed a video from Shushi, which ended up being filmed by Italian journalists in 2013.)
        1. Rubina
          Rubina 9 November 2020 17: 08
          +1
          Brilliant, of course. Did the Italians also remove the Azerbaijani flag over the executive power building?
      2. Peter rybak
        Peter rybak 10 November 2020 10: 28
        0
        Quote: sevtrash
        Quote: KARAKURT777
        The Azerbaijanis took possession of the city on 3-4 days of this month, when they surrounded it from 3 sides. And from the 6th they are already in the city. As usual, Aliyev announced this after 2 days. Photos and videos from the Azerbaijani side do not leak out for security reasons, but from the Armenian side simply for lack of such.

        Something is not similar. What other security considerations? Show the city on video, which is known to Armenians inside and out? Maybe some separate sabotage groups entered and left? This is most likely the case, the city was partially overlaid, some groups infiltrate, but it is not worth talking about taking over the city. Although the advantage in forces is clearly with the Azerbaijanis. True, along with the Turks and Arabs mercenaries.

        The President of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Arayik Harutyunyan stated that the NKR defense army partially lost control over the city of Shushi on November 5, completely on November 7. He wrote about this on his Facebook page.

        “We lost control over the city of Shushi partially on November 5, and completely on November 7. We were forced to make a decision to end the Karabakh war, ”the Karabakh leader said.
    8. Guards turn
      Guards turn 9 November 2020 13: 11
      -3
      Aliyev on TV today announced the transfer of the city of Yerevan under the control of Azerbaijan.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 9 November 2020 13: 18
        -3
        He also talked about Berlin, he said something, but probably mixed it up again)))) that was in the 45th.
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 9 November 2020 14: 12
          0
          Quote: TermNachTER
          He also talked about Berlin, he said something, but probably mixed it up again)))) that was in the 45th.

          By the way, I know Baghramyan, but were there any Azerbaijanis from the Great Patriotic War marshals? No jokes, just curious, but looking for laziness.
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 9 November 2020 18: 19
            -2
            I don’t remember. Probably not in vain in the Soviet army, Azerbaijanis mainly served in kitchens and food warehouses))))
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 November 2020 16: 05
          +1
          Is this not Shusha?
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 9 November 2020 18: 21
            -3
            And where is it seen that the city has been captured? It can be seen that someone "pulled" vidosikov from a mobile phone.
      2. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 9 November 2020 14: 04
        +5
        He will capture half the world in 30 minutes. : At dawn our troops established control of Cairo, by evening we will be in Vienna. And for security reasons (we select the appropriate footage) we cannot provide evidence
        1. Peter rybak
          Peter rybak 10 November 2020 10: 27
          0
          Quote: Astra wild2
          He will capture half the world in 30 minutes. : At dawn our troops established control of Cairo, by evening we will be in Vienna. And for security reasons (we select the appropriate footage) we cannot provide evidence

          The President of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Arayik Harutyunyan stated that the NKR defense army partially lost control over the city of Shushi on November 5, completely on November 7. He wrote about this on his Facebook page.

          “We lost control over the city of Shushi partially on November 5, and completely on November 7. We were forced to make a decision to end the Karabakh war, ”the Karabakh leader said.
          1. Astra wild2
            Astra wild2 11 November 2020 08: 30
            +1
            Imagine that I watch TV too
            1. Peter rybak
              Peter rybak 11 November 2020 08: 33
              +1
              Quote: Astra wild2
              Imagine that I watch TV too

              And this is lovely. Look at your health.
              1. Astra wild2
                Astra wild2 11 November 2020 08: 42
                +1
                Thanks for the permission, otherwise I was afraid that Rubak's colleague would take
    9. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 9 November 2020 13: 54
      +6
      "do not leak out for security reasons", what if the Armenians find out about it?
    10. credo
      credo 9 November 2020 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: KARAKURT777
      grouping of Azerbaijani troops trying to capture the city.

      The Azerbaijanis took possession of the city on 3-4 days of this month, when they surrounded it from 3 sides. And from the 6th they are already in the city. As usual, Aliyev announced this after 2 days. Photos and videos from the Azerbaijani side do not leak out for security reasons, but from the Armenian side simply for lack of such.

      They used to "seep", but now they suddenly "don't seep", so what? Are the Internet wires interrupted?
    11. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 14: 12
      +3
      Quote: KARAKURT777
      As usual, Aliyev said <...>

      And, well, if Aliyev said the way it is customary for him (YARS, Hadrut, etc.), then everything is clear.
  2. Mitroha
    Mitroha 9 November 2020 12: 57
    +6
    Good luck to the Shushans!
    1. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 11 November 2020 08: 34
      0
      Quote: Mitroha
      Good luck to the Shushans!

      Your wish for good luck has been turned into emptiness. On November 9 there were no longer Shushans there. And the residents of Shusha have already left for their hometown.
  3. KARAKURT777
    KARAKURT777 9 November 2020 12: 59
    -13 qualifying.
    Aliyev announced 23 more villages liberated.
    1. Ulrih
      Ulrih 9 November 2020 13: 09
      +6
      Weak .... Why not 50 or 100? If you lie, then in full;)
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 9 November 2020 18: 22
        -1
        There is a term in the fleet: "Grass to gum - tack"))))
    2. Tzar
      Tzar 9 November 2020 13: 58
      +8
      Again villages in the form of a barn, a rotten fence and a pile of stones?
  4. Invoce
    Invoce 9 November 2020 13: 00
    +7
    One is dancing to the tune of amers, Sores, the other is looking into Erdogan's mouth ... And people are dying ... Erdogan will agree with the US President and the slaughter will stop ... everything will remain in its place. And people cannot be resurrected.
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 9 November 2020 13: 11
      +7
      Quote: Invoce
      And people cannot be resurrected.

      The sofa on both sides does not care, they are not shot at, and some are paid money for propaganda
      1. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 14: 41
        +3
        Couch on both sides doesn't care, they are not being shot at

        So representatives of the Moscow Region are sorting out the keys:
        The official representative of the Armenian Defense Ministry Artsrun Hovhannisyan announced this on his Facebook page.

        В Facebook, Karl... Can you google the operational plans? Ugh...
      2. Invoce
        Invoce 9 November 2020 15: 28
        +1
        Express your thoughts more specifically ...! Who is this for the sofa? and who is paid for propaganda? belay
        1. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 9 November 2020 15: 35
          +1
          Quote: Invoce
          Who is this for the sofa?

          Yes, every day they wave Armenian or Azerbodjan flags rejoicing in each other's death hi
    2. sevtrash
      sevtrash 9 November 2020 13: 16
      +4
      Quote: Invoce
      Erdogan and the US President will agree and the carnage will stop ... everything will remain in its place. And people cannot be resurrected.

      That's for sure. Under the joyful screams of nationalists and paid bots on both sides will kill each other. And this is not the worst option yet. But to the best - how Czechoslovakia parted - this is like from earth to sky.
  5. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 9 November 2020 13: 15
    +5
    Mesevo there is now going concrete, apparently. But it breaks where it is thinner, according to the laws of the classics, the offensive will be in another place in the coming week.
  6. Old tanker
    Old tanker 9 November 2020 13: 16
    +3
    In view of the fact that the intensity of the fighting in Shushi is decreasing, the intensity of the information war is increasing.
  7. Avior
    Avior 9 November 2020 13: 17
    14
    Judging by the fact that there is no video from any of the sides from Shusha, there are battles in the city, and the sides do not want the actual recognition of this on the video, each for his own reasons.
    Otherwise one of the sides would show the city.
    1. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 9 November 2020 13: 57
      +3
      Quote: Avior
      Judging by the fact that there is no video from any of the sides from Shusha, there are battles in the city, and the sides do not want the actual recognition of this on the video, each for his own reasons.
      Otherwise one of the sides would show the city.

      This is the most sober assessment of the situation that I have read in the comments.
    2. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 15: 58
      +1
      What difference does it make to us? Well, the Azeris will break up the Armenian army at most, the sadness is not great, as we see the sense from such an ally ZERO, only something would get in the way under their feet. Well, if it happened that the Armenians would really turn out to be "great warriors", well, they would shatter the Azerbaijani army, in this case, it’s all right for us.

      A day earlier or a day later, sooner or later one of the parties will show a video. We chew popcorn and see who is sad sometimes we throw on the fan and troll couch heroes on both sides, scribbling from under the skirts of their wives.
  8. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 13: 18
    +5
    As can be seen from the statements of the two sides and the lack of online video from Shushi, one can conclude that there are battles going on there. On the one hand, you can understand Aliyev, fighting spirit, propaganda, faith in his soldiers. If the Armenians of Shushi do not give up or gain a foothold in some quarters and there will be city battles, what then? Armenians will call Aliyev a liar and mock him wherever possible. In principle, even now he will be called a liar, even if in the end Shusha is taken, and after all it was necessary to suffer only a couple of days.
    1. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 9 November 2020 14: 00
      -1
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      As can be seen from the statements of the two sides and the lack of online video from Shushi, one can conclude that there are battles going on there. On the one hand, you can understand Aliyev, fighting spirit, propaganda, faith in his soldiers. If the Armenians of Shushi do not give up or gain a foothold in some quarters and there will be city battles, what then? Armenians will call Aliyev a liar and mock him wherever possible. In principle, even now he will be called a liar, even if in the end Shusha is taken, and after all it was necessary to suffer only a couple of days.

      And I agree with that. But there is another point. The President of Azerbaijan invited guests from Turkey and told them about the liberation of Shushi. In fact, the Turks themselves have good knowledge of the state of hostilities. And the president would not lead them by the nose. Hence the conclusion: some part of the city has been liberated, for the rest, no less strategically important, there is a bloody mess. There is even infa that soldiers with knife wounds are delivered to hospitals.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 14: 19
        +2
        The President of Azerbaijan invited guests from Turkey and told them about the liberation of Shushi. In fact, the Turks themselves have good knowledge of the state of hostilities. And the president would not lead them by the nose. Hence the conclusion: some part of the city has been liberated, for the rest, no less strategically important, there is a bloody mess. There is even infa that soldiers with knife wounds are delivered to hospitals.

        The Turks know everything well and provide all possible support to them, there is nothing to report. Whichever part of the city is captured, it will remain only part of the city. Propaganda but if all the reasons are discarded, it would be more honest to announce that Azerbaijani soldiers entered the city and are fighting street fights. Even if the Armenians of Shusha had defended no one would find fault. Moreover, he has already been convicted of false statements. I understand the stake is being made: "the winner is not judged" but nevertheless.
        1. Peter rybak
          Peter rybak 9 November 2020 14: 22
          -3
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          Moreover, he has already been convicted of false statements. I understand the stake is being made: "the winner is not judged" but nevertheless.

          Readers, couch experts, propagandists on the other side tried to convict. Do you think the state machine is interested? Do you think even these moves are not calculated? The opinion of the Russian Federation is not voiced anywhere, although the Russian Federation is the best in the know.
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 14: 37
            +4
            Readers, couch experts, propagandists on the other side tried to convict. Do you think the state machine is interested? Do you think even these moves are not calculated? The opinion of the Russian Federation is not voiced anywhere, although the Russian Federation is the best in the know.

            The opinions of sofa experts do not influence the development of events, but nevertheless, work is underway to manage these opinions. Fakes and anti-fakes, statements and counter-statements. Even the death of 1000 soldiers is not difficult for the state machine to survive, but the mothers of these soldiers cannot be returned, but this is not about that. In fact, Aliyev hastened, because everything is going well for him anyway. Whether they took Shusha today or not, it won't change the general tendency. Now, if the Armenians lag behind Shusha, and even go over to a counteroffensive along the entire front, then it will be necessary to be nervous. Now there is an opportunity to simply swallow its prey in silence with the stubbornness of a python.
            1. Peter rybak
              Peter rybak 9 November 2020 14: 41
              -1
              Quote: Pavlos Melas
              Readers, couch experts, propagandists on the other side tried to convict. Do you think the state machine is interested? Do you think even these moves are not calculated? The opinion of the Russian Federation is not voiced anywhere, although the Russian Federation is the best in the know.

              The opinions of sofa experts do not influence the development of events, but nevertheless, work is underway to manage these opinions. Fakes and anti-fakes, statements and counter-statements. Even the death of 1000 soldiers is not difficult for the state machine to survive, but the mothers of these soldiers cannot be returned, but this is not about that. In fact, Aliyev hastened, because everything is going well for him anyway. Whether they took Shusha today or not, it won't change the general tendency. Now, if the Armenians lag behind Shusha, and even go over to a counteroffensive along the entire front, then it will be necessary to be nervous. Now there is an opportunity to simply swallow its prey in silence with the stubbornness of a python.

              Plus. But, alas, silence is not for war.
              And someone follows me, minus, like a snake in the grass laughing
              Here, for the pluses are given stripes, stars.
              I, an officer of the reserve of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, cannot add or subtract lines and asterisks. But you try your best. hi
              1. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 17: 39
                0
                Here, for the pluses are given stripes, stars.
                I, an officer of the reserve of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, cannot add or subtract lines and asterisks. But you try your best.

                Why should I minus you, you do not seem to be rude or rude, you do not call for nat hatred. If the comment causes disagreement and it does not contain the above, I can minus but I will explain why. Cons, pluses are not stripes, they are emotions and reactions. I will not hide I would like to know why sometimes they pass me by, but I certainly will not grieve over the minuses. hi
        2. Peter rybak
          Peter rybak 9 November 2020 17: 30
          0
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          The President of Azerbaijan invited guests from Turkey and told them about the liberation of Shushi. In fact, the Turks themselves have good knowledge of the state of hostilities. And the president would not lead them by the nose. Hence the conclusion: some part of the city has been liberated, for the rest, no less strategically important, there is a bloody mess. There is even infa that soldiers with knife wounds are delivered to hospitals.

          The Turks know everything well and provide all possible support to them, there is nothing to report. Whichever part of the city is captured, it will remain only part of the city. Propaganda but if all the reasons are discarded, it would be more honest to announce that Azerbaijani soldiers entered the city and are fighting street fights. Even if the Armenians of Shusha had defended no one would find fault. Moreover, he has already been convicted of false statements. I understand the stake is being made: "the winner is not judged" but nevertheless.

          Well, here's the video evidence.
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 17: 42
            0
            Well, here is the video evidence

            It is true that now you cannot argue with the facts, we will wait for the recognition of the obvious from the Armenian side.
      2. Ural resident
        Ural resident 9 November 2020 16: 21
        0
        Quote: Peter Rybak
        Quote: Pavlos Melas
        As can be seen from the statements of the two sides and the lack of online video from Shushi, one can conclude that there are battles going on there. On the one hand, you can understand Aliyev, fighting spirit, propaganda, faith in his soldiers. If the Armenians of Shushi do not give up or gain a foothold in some quarters and there will be city battles, what then? Armenians will call Aliyev a liar and mock him wherever possible. In principle, even now he will be called a liar, even if in the end Shusha is taken, and after all it was necessary to suffer only a couple of days.

        And I agree with that. But there is another point. The President of Azerbaijan invited guests from Turkey and told them about the liberation of Shushi. In fact, the Turks themselves have good knowledge of the state of hostilities. And the president would not lead them by the nose. Hence the conclusion: some part of the city has been liberated, for the rest, no less strategically important, there is a bloody mess. There is even infa that soldiers with knife wounds are delivered to hospitals.

        Here he still has a propaganda move. The soldiers on the front line were told: “The President announced the capture of the city, the whole country is rejoicing.” After such words, the soldiers will have to fight to the death to confirm.
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 17: 46
          0
          Here he still has a propaganda move. The soldiers on the front line were told: “The President announced the capture of the city, the whole country is rejoicing.” After such words, the soldiers will have to fight to the death to confirm.

          I think the Azeri will fight to the death anyway, 30 years of humiliation is not khukhry-mukhry. So, in my opinion, it was necessary to post announcements about the capture of Shushi along with a video confirmation. The video and the announcement together would have a disheartening effect on the adversary, as they mentally prepared themselves for the evidence.
  9. Petrik66
    Petrik66 9 November 2020 14: 04
    0
    One howitzer is firing, if there was a battery nearby, it would be audible. We were shown the actions of one calculation and what? Shusha is taken or not taken, we will soon find out.
  10. KARAKURT777
    KARAKURT777 9 November 2020 14: 12
    -5
    Quote: Avis
    NB / I am neither side.

    So you shouldn't interfere then.
  11. Sailor
    Sailor 9 November 2020 14: 13
    10
    Yes, the Armenians lost this military campaign with a bang, all their hope was in the Russian Federation, but the GDP prudently did not fit, and did my opinion right. There is such a proverb "if an Armenian called you a friend, then he wants to deceive you, and if he called you a brother, he has already deceived! This says everything about this people, of course, there are conscientious people among them, but there are very few of them. Remember the late USSR, because they were the first for secession together with the Balts, and their subsidies to Georgia and the Baltic states were the largest. And I remember the terrorist attacks in the USSR, the Armenians did in the 70s. And now there is clearly a Russophobic policy. So serve them right!
  12. Jünger
    Jünger 9 November 2020 14: 17
    -8
    Armenia has not died yet! Our brothers are holding on.
  13. Konnick
    Konnick 9 November 2020 14: 22
    +3
    Quote: Avior
    Judging by the fact that there is no video from any of the sides from Shusha, there are battles in the city, and the sides do not want the actual recognition of this on the video, each for his own reasons.
    Otherwise one of the sides would show the city.


    Do you think there is internet there?
    And military correspondents do not appear at the front closer than a cannon shot. And where will the pictures come from?
    1. Avior
      Avior 9 November 2020 23: 16
      +1
      Now everyone will take a picture with a smartphone.
      Transferring the file is also easy, the distances are small there too.
      Even if there is no Internet, an hour or two on the road, and it will be found.
  14. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 9 November 2020 14: 27
    +1
    Quote: Stasi
    Quote: Stavros
    What crap the Cavtatar marshals will not write, just to hide their commander-in-chief)

    But it is true that Aliyev has been caught in a lie several times since the attack on the NKR ...
    Mercenary terrorists, the Turkish Air Force, the Turks themselves in battle formations.
    Now Shusha has grown.

    They are there at Aliyev's headquarters, are they all sickly?

    Are you talking about an Armenian troll again? Who is caught? When is it caught? What kind of mercenaries? Where are the Turks in battle formations? Why do Armenians use only id-v for their propaganda?))
  15. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 9 November 2020 14: 28
    -1
    Quote: Mitroha
    Good luck to the Shushans!

    35 thousand Azerbaijanis residents of Shushi have been waiting for the liberation of the city for almost 30 years.
  16. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 9 November 2020 14: 30
    -5
    Quote: Junger
    Armenia has not died yet! Our brothers are holding on.

    Ride yourself, help me, I hope you will catch your harop there))
    1. Jünger
      Jünger 9 November 2020 14: 52
      -1
      White people have nothing to do there. I'd rather fix Armenians' shoes))
  17. Lis_Domino
    Lis_Domino 9 November 2020 14: 30
    +1
    Young guys shoot at the same as them. And all because the politicians could not agree on themselves. Burn them all in Hell - "servants of the people"
    Let their children first be sent to such unnecessary meat grinders,
  18. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 9 November 2020 14: 36
    -2
    Quote: Ulrih
    Weak .... Why not 50 or 100? If you lie, then in full;)

    Don't speak your Armenian nonsense. Language that pomelo. You only know how to chat and howl and whine for help.
    All the territories liberated by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces were later confirmed by video filmed there.
  19. Konnick
    Konnick 9 November 2020 14: 38
    +2
    Quote: Sailor
    Yes, the Armenians lost this military campaign with a bang, all their hope was in the Russian Federation, but the GDP prudently did not fit, and did my opinion right.


    After May 28 (Border Guard Day) 2016, a monument to the punitive fascist Garegin ter-Harutyunyan (nzhdeh) was unveiled in the center of Yerevan. The author of the phrase "He who dies for Germany, dies for Armenia." With the guard of honor of the Armenian army ... You just have to be a fool after this to help a country that respects the Nazis. In my opinion, it was necessary to end diplomatic relations with Armenia back in 2016 in order to think about what they were doing. And still, in 1992 with Ukraine it was necessary to end diplomatic relations for the demolition of the monument to Nikolai Kuznetsov. And now we are reaping the "respect" of the countries of the former socialist bloc.
  20. DrEng527
    DrEng527 9 November 2020 14: 39
    0
    fog of war.... request
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 16: 21
      +2
      Yes, everything is already clear - the Armenians are still those svizdobols.
  21. Lvalentin
    Lvalentin 9 November 2020 14: 55
    +1
    I have never read that the Karabakh Armed Forces have left at least one city or village and it is strange to read that suddenly battles are going on in Shushi, this is, in principle, a deep rear. Tomorrow an operation will be carried out to destroy the enemy grouping on the outskirts of Stepanokert ...
  22. Azimuth
    Azimuth 9 November 2020 16: 02
    +2

    I did not have time to finish, as the video appeared. It or not it, maybe staged?

    Oh they will fly nowlaughing
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 16: 18
    -1
    laughing Considering how the Armenians love to brag about their victories, most likely they have not yet recaptured Shushi. In principle, Azerbaijan does not like to demonstrate its achievements. So the fog of war.
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 16: 24
      0
      Pay attention to some points.

      One of the minarets has a roof or a canopy, as it is right there, that is, in some frames, it is not in others.

      And the streets of the city were cleaned and washed as for a parade ... Where then were the fierce battles, where those 800 corpses of only Armenians? As if all this time they were cleaning the city.

      The feeling that Aliyev simply bought Shusha / Shusha from Pashinyan, and a couple of Armenians, having signed the act of acceptance of the transmission and waving the stopper for this case, on the way to Yerevan with a suitcase full of deneg, broke several windows, considering that Nikola was cheap laughing
      I'm starting to think that Padolyaka was right about the betrayal.
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  25. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 16: 38
    +1
    I still did not understand why I was so upbeat in social networks about the war in Nagorno-Karabakh. Azerbaijan and Armenia cannot share a piece of territory. So what? We are especially surprised by those who sound the alarm about our Orthodox "brothers-Armenians", whom Russia must save from Azerbaijan and Turkey.

    Are you seriously??? laughing They, stsuka, are desperately fighting the imperial influence of Russia! At the same time, Armenia is completely and completely dependent in economic terms on Russia. In 2018, funds sent through official channels from Russia to Armenia amounted to 1,121 billion, in 2019 the amount of transfers was equal to 1,59 billion US dollars. It follows from the reports of the US CIA that the Armenian economy is very dependent on Russian economic support and it is noted that most of the country's infrastructure depends on Russia. I have a question for those who are now so fiercely worried about Armenia. Did Armenia recognize South Ossetia, Abkhazia, LDNR, and most importantly, Crimea? No? Or maybe she supports Russian initiatives at the UN? No? Tell me please, WHAT IS EXACTLY the allied attitude of Armenia towards Russia? Can Armenians say to Russians: we have done for you ...

    And silence…
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 16: 45
      0
      It’s not good to hit someone lying down ... These questions should have been asked earlier and asked harder to Armenians. And now they are already punished for their ... living. Only they are not Orthodox, you confused them with Georgians.

      As for the rest, this resource is dragging on, some kind of drug, it dragged on for several days, and the war in the Caucasus is the main topic. even knowledge on the topic pulled up hi Just another week and they'll be fired to hell, we'll meet at the labor exchange later laughing
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 16: 46
    -1
    But it seems to me that no one will send anything. Your western idols, my dear Armenians, will not lift a finger for you. (Even if your foreign lobby bursts with tension.) The West needs you in the same way as Belarus, Ukraine and other Baltic states. And if tomorrow Armenia is gone, already the day after tomorrow Europe and the United States will happily forget about its existence. Therefore, keep on spitting into the well, thanks to which you are still alive. And we'll see how you can cope without Russia ... We wish victory to Azerbaijan and Armenia. laughing
  27. Rubina
    Rubina 9 November 2020 17: 12
    +1
    Arayik Harutyunyan has just written that the valiant Armenian troops are successfully repelling the attacks of Stepanakert from Shushi. I wonder who they are fighting with if Shusha is in the hands of Armenians?
  28. Bear
    Bear 9 November 2020 19: 08
    0
    Azerbaijanis are winning, and this is clear to any objective reader. Of course, both sides should have wild losses.
  29. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2020 20: 28
    0
    The Armenian people, parliamentary and extra-parliamentary political forces have combined their ability to resist the Turkish-Azerbaijani aggression directed at the two Armenian states:

    With a call to make a turning point in these war days on the political, diplomatic and military fronts, we presented the authorities with numerous proposals, including proposals aimed at rectifying the situation, which remained unanswered and unfulfilled:

    We, as a state and a people, are facing a fateful stage that requires decisive decisions and actions .:

    Human and territorial losses, defective relations with the allies of Armenia and, first of all, with the Russian Federation, make the bankruptcy of the current government obvious:

    The entire responsibility for this situation is borne by the political authorities, who did not get rid of their infallibility complex, putting the two Armenian states in front of difficult realities, and Artsakh also with serious territorial losses .:

    To prevent irreversible losses, we require ՝

    1.the removal of Prime Minister Pashinyan and his government, responsible for the current disastrous situation, in a timely manner and without shocks,

    2. the creation of a new body of executive power capable of making a difference in the situation and solving military-political problems:

    Dear compatriots,

    at the moment, our demand is dictated by the imperative of the existence of two Armenian states and the confidence that in the new situation the unyielding Armenian army and the united Armenian people are able to ensure a victorious breakthrough at the front:

    1. Party "Freedom"
    2. Party "National Security"
    3. Party "National Agenda"
    4. Party "National Democratic Union"
    5. Party "National Accord"
    6. "Alliance Progressive Center" party
    7. Party "Prosperous Armenia"
    8. Party "Democratic Alternative"
    9. "Yerkir Tsirani" party
    10. Armenian Revolutionary Federation "Dashnaktsutyun"
    11. Party "Solidarity"
    12. "Democratic Liberal Union of Armenia" Party
    13.Republican Party of Armenia
    14. Courses / training in computer science: accounting programs
    15. "Hayrenik" party
    16. "United Armenia" Party
    17. "Union of Constitutional Law" party. ............ It seems that the life-giving ... "zvezdyulina" from Azerbaijan and Turkey showed its benevolent effect. The Armenians are ready to "love Russia with all their souls" again. 

       The stick is the best educator. The ancients noticed this. laughing http://politik.am/am/17-qaxaqakan-uzher-pahanjum-en-nikol-pashinyani-ev-karavarutyan-hrazharakany-haytararutyun
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 10 November 2020 05: 23
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Armenians are ready to "love Russia with all their souls" again

      Hardly. If Pashinyan leaves, another Westerner may come. As it was in Ukraine with Petya and Vova. The puppeteers simply put other dolls on the same hands - and the people rejoice, celebrating the victory over evil.
      A "defective relationship with an ally," perhaps, is better to interrupt than to repair, and then find a new ally with whom the relationship will be "full."
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  31. Avior
    Avior 9 November 2020 23: 10
    +1
    Everything, NKR admitted that Shashu was taken and approached Stepanokert.
    Azerbaijan showed a video from Shushi.
  32. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 10 November 2020 10: 45
    0
    And now today 10.11 read again the title of this article, ..... well, funny? And think about the competence of those people who write articles on VO, as well as about Pegov and what nonsense he says far from reality. The only thing is that if you don't listen to it but watch the video sequence, then a lot of really interesting things can be seen to understand the real situation.
    1. karpusha
      karpusha 10 November 2020 12: 21
      0
      And there is. All and sundry write. Perhaps half of them are 14 year olds. The same quality of articles about the protests in Belarus. They also do not understand and do not know anything, but they write and give advice.
      Today the title of the article reads especially funny.
  33. golem
    golem 10 November 2020 15: 33
    0
    How is it there? Destroyed already? ;-)
    1. karpusha
      karpusha 12 November 2020 10: 40
      0
      They are already being driven to Baku. Crap all over the world in the end.