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Azerbaijani Defense Ministry fails to prove the capture of Shushi

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Photo of the Armenian artilleryman



The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has not yet published footage from Shushi. We are talking about the Karabakh city, which not only representatives of the Azerbaijani media, but also President Ilham Aliyev, announced early in the morning about taking control of it. First, Aliyev wrote about the "liberation of Shushi" on Twitter, then said the same during a meeting with the heads of the Turkish Defense and Foreign Ministry, calling those dear guests who "together with the Azerbaijani nation on this historically important day."

The appearance of shots from Shushi was announced throughout the day, but so far the military department has not officially presented such shots to the public. The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry was unable to prove the capture of Shushi. In this regard, statements about the seizure of Shushi under Azerbaijani control look like a kind of "false start".

Speaking at a briefing, the head of the Armenian Defense Ministry Artsrun Hovhannisyan confirmed the data on the battles in the vicinity of Shushi. According to him, the enemy initially deployed small tactical groups in the northern direction, which were supported by artillery and armored vehicles. But, according to the head of the Armenian defense department, the enemy was stopped and suffered significant losses.

There was evidence that Azerbaijani troops tried to break through from the Berzdor (Lachin) direction to those detachments that came under powerful artillery fire from the Armenian side. According to Hovhannisyan, this breakthrough was not successful for the Azerbaijani units:

The enemy was driven back. The battles are still going on, but their intensity has decreased.

The Azerbaijani military department, instead of the personnel from Shushi announced by the local media, publishes footage from the Khojavend region (Martuni region - in the interpretation of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic).


It is stated that the Armenian troops suffered losses and left their positions.
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Ministry of Defense of Armenia
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  1. Crowe
    Crowe 9 November 2020 06: 48
    30
    First, Aliyev wrote about the "liberation of Shushi" on Twitter, then said the same during a meeting with the heads of the Turkish Defense and Foreign Ministry, calling those dear guests who "together with the Azerbaijani nation on this historically important day."

    “They never lie as much as during the war, after the hunt and before the elections.” Otto von Bismarck
    1. Far B
      Far B 9 November 2020 06: 58
      27
      The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan is scratching its turnip in bewilderment: Well, they don't take their word for gents anymore, eh?
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 9 November 2020 08: 36
        13
        Gentlemen, of course, are believed. But where will they come from in Azerbaijan?
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 November 2020 11: 18
          -5
          The head of the separatists of Nagorno-Karabakh, Arayik Harutyunyan, admitted that Azerbaijan had conquered Shusha.

          Early this morning, he visited the fighting positions of the separatists, from which the defense of Khankendi is being carried out, where he talked with the servicemen of the separatist army.

          As Aratyunyan wrote on his Facebook page, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are advancing on Khankendi from the direction of Shushi.
      2. flicker
        flicker 9 November 2020 14: 20
        0
        And what, the gents don't take their word for it, eh?
        They believe, of course, especially if the "gentleman" has a smartphone.
      3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 9 November 2020 16: 38
        +2
        Quote: Far In
        The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan is scratching its turnip in bewilderment: Well, they don't take their word for gents anymore, eh?

    2. Civil
      Civil 9 November 2020 07: 09
      -9
      There is already a video of traffic jams from Karabakh, so Turkey is advancing.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 9 November 2020 07: 40
        +5
        In the photo there is an Armenian artilleryman near M 30, or am I mistaken?
      2. Guards turn
        Guards turn 9 November 2020 08: 40
        24
        Yeah, they are attacking on all fronts in the markets and vegetable stores of Moscow.
      3. times
        times 9 November 2020 08: 49
        16
        Quote: Civil
        so Turkey is coming

        You just said that Turkey is a party to the conflict
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 9 November 2020 07: 31
      15
      Well, so in the battle zone everyone ended up with phones with a film camera, and when the film was being prepared for development, it was unintentionally massively lit up crying Therefore, they cannot show pictures from the battle site! PS-video cameras there are probably steam, they work on straw, and it is wet from dew - this explains the absence and video from Shusha! !! lol
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      3. midivan
        midivan 9 November 2020 08: 44
        -6
        Quote: Thrifty
        the video cameras there are probably steam, work on straw, and it is wet with dew - this explains the absence and video from Shusha

        "A hair's breadth from death: a Turkish missile hits a Karabakh tank in a battle in Shusha." Hammer it in Yandex, sort of like yesterday's vidyuha, there is a battle within the city limits ..
        1. Artavazdych
          Artavazdych 9 November 2020 10: 44
          -1
          It was on the northern approaches to Shusha, there was already a geolocation analysis
          1. midivan
            midivan 9 November 2020 19: 45
            0
            Quote: Artavazdych
            It was on the northern approaches to Shusha, there was already a geolocation analysis

            Got it, thanks)) I'm not here often, I was not aware of this ...
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 November 2020 12: 43
        0
        Do they even have internet there or mobile communications in the mountains?
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 9 November 2020 06: 48
    16
    The main thing is to crow - and there, at least the Sun does not get up! (FROM)
    The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has set up its President!
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 9 November 2020 07: 06
      +6
      This could have been done to create panic in the Armenian army.
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 9 November 2020 07: 14
        14
        Quote: Herman 4223
        This could have been done to create panic in the Armenian army.

        Well, yes, the Armenian army (the Army of Nagorno-Karabakh) does nothing but listen to the speech of the President of Azerbaijan and read his Twitter.
        This is the usual gibberish, wishful thinking! Judging by the number of trolls on both sides, with the advantage of Azerbaijan, new methods of waging information war have been mastered.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 9 November 2020 08: 18
          +7
          Quote: Hunter 2
          This is the usual gibberish, wishful thinking

          They most likely did not take Shusha. But the battles are going on. Straight Stalingrad. And the battles can go on for a long time. More depends on the courage and skill of the defenders. Drones are not very useful in urban areas, I guess.
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 9 November 2020 08: 25
            10
            Quote: Mountain Shooter

            They most likely did not take Shusha. But the battles are going on. Straight Stalingrad. And the battles can go on for a long time. More depends on the courage and skill of the defenders. Drones are not very useful in urban areas, I guess.

            City plus adjoining heights, also worsening weather. Apparently the battles are going Nose to Nose. We will wait for the confirmed results of the battle for Shusha. Azerbaijani trolls have already heard enough. hi
          2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
            GELEZNII_KAPUT 9 November 2020 08: 29
            +3
            Shusha was founded in the middle of the XNUMXth century as a fortress to protect the Karabakh khanate.
            Obviously, everything is not so simple there, and it was clearly not amateurs who were looking for a place for a fortress.
            1. Reviews
              Reviews 9 November 2020 08: 33
              +4
              Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
              Shusha was founded in the middle of the XNUMXth century as a fortress to protect the Karabakh khanate.
              Obviously, everything is not so simple there, and it was clearly not amateurs who were looking for a place for a fortress.

              In the middle of the XNUMXth century, the artillery was different. And there was no aviation. What will this fortress give?
              1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
                GELEZNII_KAPUT 9 November 2020 08: 35
                +2
                Quote: Avis
                In the middle of the XNUMXth century, the artillery was different. And there was no aviation. What will this fortress give?

                The fortress may not have anything to do with it, but the place must definitely be difficult for an attack, you get it off, right ?!
                1. Reviews
                  Reviews 9 November 2020 08: 38
                  +8
                  Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
                  dumb, huh ?!

                  You will "poke" your cat. If he will.
                  1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
                    GELEZNII_KAPUT 9 November 2020 09: 23
                    -8
                    In the middle of the XNUMXth century, the artillery was different. And there was no aviation. What will this fortress give?
                    And you do not consider other people dumber than yourself, and no one will poke you, tell me the obvious things with a smart look. Look, an expert has been found!
          3. Slon1978
            Slon1978 9 November 2020 14: 43
            -2
            Well, what is Stalingrad? :) Do not dishonor the Stalingrad events by comparing them with the events near Stepanakert and Shusha. The level of intensity, losses and motivation of the infantry of both sides would not even occur to anyone in their right mind to compare in these two locations. "Heroic battles", with both sides, near Shusha are mostly artillery duels from long ranges and with minimal losses. They enter the mountains in small tactical infantry groups, then flee from fear during artillery shelling. There is a minimum of contact infantry battles and, if they occur, then also from maximum ranges and with minimum efficiency. Azerbaijani drones knocked out the equipment of the Armenians and now in the mountains their effectiveness has decreased, since the terrain is difficult, there is no front line and on the ground it is difficult to distinguish your infantry from the enemy. So the Azerbaijanis stalled. Now who will shoot which of the cannons ... Near Shusha, not tactics will win, but the logistics of delivering artillery ammunition. Azerbaijanis are still "heroes" in the offensive, like the Sumerians from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, the Armenians left not far from them, Pashishyan is not Stalin, he is still a ferret, no charisma, no pride, no leadership qualities.
            1. Cottager452
              Cottager452 9 November 2020 15: 55
              +1
              Why flood, if not in the subject?
        2. Spike Javelin Touvich
          Spike Javelin Touvich 9 November 2020 08: 24
          -14 qualifying.
          This is the usual gibberish, wishful thinking

          Alexey, how will you look if video evidence is posted during the day, taking into account that the security service warned of criminal liability for any video and photography in the Azerbaijani army.
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 9 November 2020 08: 30
            10
            Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich

            Alexey, how will you look if video evidence is posted during the day, taking into account that the security service warned of criminal liability for any video and photography in the Azerbaijani army.

            I will look great! I don’t give a damn about the security service and their warnings, If you said A - say B. Took - Prove or just be silent! I hope it's clear.
            1. Spike Javelin Touvich
              Spike Javelin Touvich 9 November 2020 08: 38
              -8
              I hope it is clear

              quietly Alexey quietly like an adult, you shouldn't be so angry.
              They said both A and B further down the alphabetical list, just if you rummage through the telegram full of video footage despite strict restrictions
            2. Alexander Kopychev
              Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 08: 41
              +6
              You, Alexei, just some kind of unbeliever Thomas, is it hard for you to believe or what ..? And a person is pleased ... laughing
            3. Buka001
              Buka001 9 November 2020 09: 06
              -4
              Until now, they reacted in the same way to the previous de-occupied districts and cities, Hadrut, Fizuli, Jebrail. Both A and B and C provided you, what do you still not recognize? Surely you are tactically silent)
          2. Past the crocodile
            Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 14: 33
            -1
            Why shouldn't the Security Service itself remove the city with the flag of Azerbaijan? What have the Armenians not seen there in 30 years? Or do they like that your president looks bullshit?
        3. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 9 November 2020 09: 50
          +4
          The main thing is that the rumor spreads, or do you think that the Armenians are such monkeys who do not know how to use the Internet and the news reaches them only through the Armenian Information Bureau?
    2. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 9 November 2020 11: 12
      +1
      The head of the separatists of Nagorno-Karabakh, Arayik Harutyunyan, admitted that Azerbaijan had conquered Shusha.

      Early this morning, he visited the fighting positions of the separatists, from which the defense of Khankendi is being carried out, where he talked with the servicemen of the separatist army.

      As Aratyunyan wrote on his Facebook page, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are advancing on Khankendi from the direction of Shushi.
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 9 November 2020 12: 38
      0
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The main thing is to crow - and there, at least the Sun does not get up! (FROM)
      The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has set up its President!

      The Azerbaijani sultan must arrest disinformers! But the celebrations were planned ...
    4. flicker
      flicker 9 November 2020 14: 25
      +1
      The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has set up its President!
      Yeah, only the Turks seem to have set them up.
      But Aliyev will be responsible. The Turks probably want to overthrow Aliyev, so they set him up.
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 9 November 2020 06: 55
    10
    A campaign in the media space will be more abruptly war ... what
  4. antivirus
    antivirus 9 November 2020 06: 57
    +2
    surrender Karabakh - destroy the Karabakh clan, pro-Russian, a double victory for Soros and Pashinyan.
    a difficult task for a nationalist.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 November 2020 06: 57
    21
    Azerbaijani Defense Ministry fails to prove the capture of Shushi
    But they managed to celebrate with songs and dances, choking with delight, bowing in love to the Turkish brothers. I can imagine what happened in Baku if here on the site some individuals were already writing to the ceiling, and one was shouting hurray to hoarseness and sobbing with joy.
    1. icant007
      icant007 9 November 2020 07: 18
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Imagine what happened in Baku


      In Rostov-on-Don, there were also dances in the market at the entrance to the city) in the morning it seems like now the OMON is there)
    2. Spike Javelin Touvich
      Spike Javelin Touvich 9 November 2020 08: 58
      -1
      if here on the site

      I agree with you Gennady, the site is not an appropriate place for the manifestation of delight, do not judge strictly, but just try to understand people,
      Gennady. forgive in advance for the fact that if I do not correctly state my thoughts to you. All the same, I'm not Russian.
      to another I would not write so. you all the same, like me, is an old-timer of the site, and have read a lot of the Armenian-Azerbaijani srach on the sites
      Many Azerbaijani users have tried for many years to convey or present their idea to the Russians about why and for what sins Russia supplied weapons worth billions of dollars to the Armenians for free and what has become of these weapons now, and what "gratitude" they have paid you for this that thousands of settlements in Russia are not supplied with gas, do not have a water supply system, as well as other infrastructure benefits.
      Understand Gennady Russia is not a stranger to many Azerbaijanis, a country where relatives and loved ones live there who are also worried about the fate of Russia
    3. Modun
      Modun 9 November 2020 09: 02
      -10 qualifying.
      Didn't take yesterday, take today. Air superiority allows poor Armenian guys to be bullied with impunity
      1. 41 REGION
        41 REGION 9 November 2020 09: 24
        +7
        Quote: Modun
        Didn't take yesterday, take today.

        This is not a reason to give out fakes. request
    4. gurzuf
      gurzuf 9 November 2020 09: 03
      +6
      Yes. If not taken, but instead of a victorious triumph, coffins will go. I think the people will not forgive Aliyev for empty talk on blood.
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  6. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 9 November 2020 06: 57
    -21 qualifying.
    Wait, today is a public holiday - Flag Day. Proofs will be.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 9 November 2020 07: 02
      -2
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Wait, today is a public holiday - Flag Day. Proofs will be.

      Explain, please, why did this war begin now ?! There was a status quo, everyone was happy with everything ...
      1. icant007
        icant007 9 November 2020 07: 12
        +8
        Quote: Corona without virus
        Explain, please, why did this war begin now ?! There was a status quo, everyone was happy with everything ...


        Satisfied only with Armenia.
      2. smart ass
        smart ass 9 November 2020 08: 17
        -4
        Azerbaijan started and was clearly preparing for this, the defeat of Armenia is inevitable.
      3. Past the crocodile
        Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 14: 43
        -3
        What are you doing ?! Erdogan could not do kushat worrying about his Azerbaijani brothers! Now, having sent from 2000 to 4000 Azerbaijanis to paradise with his efforts, he is satisfied.
      4. flicker
        flicker 9 November 2020 14: 58
        +1
        Explain, please, why did this war begin now ?! There was a status quo, everyone was happy with everything ...
        There was a status quo, but neither side was happy. It is clear why Azerbatsjan (minus Karabakh, minus 7 regions near Karabakh).
        But Armenia did not like the status quo for the reason: "the best is the enemy of the good"
        I really wanted to get the RECOGNITION of the independence of Karabakh.
        Peace negotiations did not allow them to obtain such a result.
        ---
        You have to understand the Armenians. The recognition of Karabakh as Armenian is the blue dream of all Armenians. The Armenians lived in this place, including the Armenian diaspora in the United States, which the Armenians were very proud of and to which they listened.
        And which often made its own adjustments to the policy of Armenia.
        They took advantage of this circumstance.
        ---
        For the sake of DREAM we are ready for anything - what a wonderful hook.
        Someone to the diaspora promised that they would recognize Karabakh, but let them not agree to the peaceful Kazan agreements with the participation of Russia. They toriozili in the hope that someone from the West would recognize the independence of Karabakh.
        So the Kazan agreements were torpedoed.
        Azerbaijanis also love Karabakh and dream of getting it back.
        Someone pushed Azerbaijan to war, but Aliyev avoided it (for many reasons).
        It was necessary to push Azerbaijan to war by putting an end to the negotiations. Those. change the situation so that there is no hope for negotiations.
        For this (someone) Armenia is beginning to turn towards the West with the subsequent entry into NATO. They say that Armenia is a NATO member will be the guarantor of independent Karabakh, and there the West will recognize its independence.
        Those. Azerbaijan in this situation could say goodbye to the dream of Karabakh forever - this (someone) explained to Azerbaijan.
        Pashinyan has already voiced aloud about Armenia's turn towards NATO.
        Azerbaijan is at a loss, as here the brothers - the Turks, were ready to help (it seems not free of charge - let's say for an oil field).
        Azerbaijan was forced to agree.
        ---
        As a result, the Armenians who are thrown and already thrown by the West will also suffer (although Pashinyan turned to Biden - he hopes that someone will recognize it), Azerbaijan risks falling under Turkey and the income from the sale of Azerbaijan's oil and gas will replenish Turkey's treasury.
        ---
        What does a strong unbridled dream mean and how can the side of the force use it?
    2. sergo1914
      sergo1914 9 November 2020 08: 46
      +4
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Wait, today is a public holiday - Flag Day. Proofs will be.


      Flag ponds? What for?
  7. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 9 November 2020 07: 00
    12
    Here is another question, are there any personnel from Shushi from the Armenian side?
    I suspect that battles are taking place in the city itself, so it's not up to filming for both sides.
    1. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 9 November 2020 07: 43
      16
      Armenians do not show the video.
      I read on the Tape the statements of Russian military correspondents about what is happening in the vicinity of Shushi. They called it "Mash and Crumb". Fights often turn into hand-to-hand combat.
      Heavy losses on both sides.
      By the day of the flag, apparently the Azerbaijanis will not have time with Shusha.
      But the capture of this city by Azerbaijan, to be honest, just a matter of time.
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 9 November 2020 08: 06
      +5
      Quote: Herman 4223
      Here is another question, are there any personnel from Shushi from the Armenian side?

      Yes, that's just the point .. And Pegov does not take pictures in Shushi. It was similar with Hadrut, but in the end, Hadrut was taken anyway. The fact that Azerbaijanis are already in the city, I think there is no doubt about it
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 9 November 2020 10: 04
        +2
        Even if the city is not taken and the fighting is going on, it is still nothing good for Armenia. After all, the supply along the route passing there is still cut. Fights around the city and concentration of forces there may lead to a breakthrough in another place in a few days, where forces simply will not be enough.
        Or a little later, just a collapse of the front due to a supply disruption.
  8. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 9 November 2020 07: 15
    -12 qualifying.
    The main thing is to crow - and there, at least the Sun does not get up! (FROM)
    The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has set up its President!

    After the proofs are put up today, let's see who the zvizdobol is.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 9 November 2020 07: 28
      10
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      The main thing is to crow - and there, at least the Sun does not get up! (FROM)
      The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has set up its President!

      After the proofs are put up today, let's see who the zvizdobol is.

      Duck, everything is clear anyway, there are Azerbaijani trolls like Zvizdobols, such as Greetings from Baku! wink
      Words are confirmed by deeds Immediately, and not later, like you, wait a little, and now I will prove it, I swear by my mother - this does not work for Normal People!
  9. Kapral Alphych
    Kapral Alphych 9 November 2020 07: 31
    +2
    Yes, it is the Russian "rubella" to blame - from them all bayraktars fell and not a single digital camera or telephone works. It is true that those that others have.
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    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 9 November 2020 07: 36
      +5
      We bet if the proofs are then you declare yourself a zvizdobol, if not, then I am. Weak?
      The game takes on interest
      What the heat - the battle is all over the site
      Their extreme right climbed onto the scoreboard
      Well, not sporting, because he is still alive ... (c)
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 9 November 2020 07: 39
      16
      Are you sick or what? I, a Russian Marine, will argue with the Paid Troll? fool go - sell tomatoes yes
      Greetings from Baku ... funny character!
    3. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 9 November 2020 08: 02
      15
      Greetings from Baku "I bet, if there are proofs, then you declare yourself a zvizdobol, if not, then I am. Weak?"
      I've seen your proofs. Really. Two vidos were posted on YouTube. I saw two videos with Azerbaijani flags on the towers of Shusha. They flapped proudly in the wind. True, the towers were not Shusha, but hell understand what fortresses. I understand two different ones. Why do this ahead of time I do not understand. ))) Why shout about victory when the result is not clear and it is not clear what is happening there. It all looks pathetic, even if you take Shusha. Can't you wait and then proudly announce the result?))) And then hang your magnificent flags and stickers on the walls and towers. And then pray in a picturesque way in the liberated Shusha mosque, securing the result?)))
      1. Spike Javelin Touvich
        Spike Javelin Touvich 9 November 2020 09: 01
        -4
        declare yourself a zvizdobol
        comrade, do not risk your reputation so much. all the same the site is serious
        There was one character here, I don't know where he went. registered twice a day Meehan clicked himself
        don't be like him
        1. Past the crocodile
          Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 17: 37
          -1
          I remember this in 2014-2016, I was waiting for the collapse of America, I hope I'm alive - I complained about my heart.
          Well, I probably shouldn't have called your president a bullshit.
    4. Stock
      Stock 9 November 2020 08: 14
      -5
      Why are you nervous and reacting to local trolls? There is no need to prove anything to anyone, time will put everything in its place. Good luck to you
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 9 November 2020 09: 46
        +7
        So nervous for a reason. If not taken, big losses. If there are losses, then they must be restored. If it is necessary to restore, then there will be a call. If there is a call, it can get mobilized. Does he need it?
        1. Stock
          Stock 9 November 2020 11: 10
          +1
          The losses are large on both sides. The city is almost completely occupied by Azerbaijani assault troops, but not all areas have been cleared yet. It's really messy there now. The Armenians have pulled up reserves from other directions and are trying to recapture the city from the direction of Khankendi (Stepanakert), so no one is waiting for proofs today. I ask everyone to treat each other with respect and not give in to emotions, although I understand that this is very difficult. Really a lot of losses on both sides
    5. Artavazdych
      Artavazdych 9 November 2020 10: 59
      -1
      So you are ALREADY zvizdobol. In fact, Shusha was not taken. And even if they are taken, well, it means that the Zvizdobols took Shusha. It happens.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 9 November 2020 11: 16
        0
        The head of the separatists of Nagorno-Karabakh, Arayik Harutyunyan, admitted that Azerbaijan had conquered Shusha.

        Early this morning, he visited the fighting positions of the separatists, from which the defense of Khankendi is being carried out, where he talked with the servicemen of the separatist army.

        As Aratyunyan wrote on his Facebook page, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are advancing on Khankendi from the direction of Shushi.
    6. Past the crocodile
      Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 14: 49
      -2
      Proofof no - you, dear, zvizdobol.
  11. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 9 November 2020 07: 37
    -22 qualifying.
    Quote: NDR-791
    We bet if the proofs are then you declare yourself a zvizdobol, if not, then I am. Weak?
    The game takes on interest
    What the heat - the battle is all over the site
    Their extreme right climbed onto the scoreboard
    Well, not sporting, because he is still alive ... (c)

    I am responsible for my words, but tovarisch, apparently, merged.
    1. deniso
      deniso 9 November 2020 08: 11
      12
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Quote: NDR-791
      We bet if the proofs are then you declare yourself a zvizdobol, if not, then I am. Weak?
      The game takes on interest
      What the heat - the battle is all over the site
      Their extreme right climbed onto the scoreboard
      Well, not sporting, because he is still alive ... (c)

      I am responsible for my words, but tovarisch, apparently, merged.


      Shushi oars laughing
  12. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 9 November 2020 07: 41
    -24 qualifying.
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Are you sick or what? I, a Russian Marine, will argue with the Paid Troll? fool go - sell tomatoes yes

    Everything is clear, yamorpekh, namnellnyashka, only for the words I do not answer. Sometimes it's better to remain silent.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 9 November 2020 07: 45
      13
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Are you sick or what? I, a Russian Marine, will argue with the Paid Troll? fool go - sell tomatoes yes

      Everything is clear, yamorpekh, namnellnyashka, only for the words I do not answer. Sometimes it's better to remain silent.

      Your troll cohort is not responsible for words. All day yesterday ... now there will be proofs, now today. Then there will be tomorrow? Get lost already "the tomato seller", tired!
  13. Artura
    Artura 9 November 2020 07: 46
    +8
    Aliyev once again croaked)))))))) His words are worthless. They even managed to hold a parade in all cities))))))). Shushi they like their ears can not see !!!! The Armenians are thrashing them there, Mama do not cry !!!
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  14. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 9 November 2020 07: 49
    -15 qualifying.
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Quote: Greetings from Baku
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Are you sick or what? I, a Russian Marine, will argue with the Paid Troll? fool go - sell tomatoes yes

    Everything is clear, yamorpekh, namnellnyashka, only for the words I do not answer. Sometimes it's better to remain silent.

    Your troll cohort is not responsible for words. All day yesterday ... now there will be proofs, now today. Then there will be tomorrow? Get lost already "the tomato seller", tired!

    Decent people, in real life, in the internet, are responsible for their words. I have always considered military personnel, especially Russian marines, to be decent people. Or was I wrong?
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 9 November 2020 08: 29
      -11 qualifying.
      Well, why are you arguing with them? It's not worth it. I've been here for several years and the conclusion is that you can't cook porridge with them. Besides, they don't solve anything. With a few exceptions, there are either super warriors or extra analysts. But they can't. to overturn the fact that the "tomato sellers" with small arms and a knife took bare rocks. Such heroism can only be with them)). So, calmly) Shusha is ours and our Victory and the rest is trifles. Khojaly (on the field, of course) ... 30 years of occupation, they wanted to force us to put up with it, west, north, south, all for the Armenians and we took it and went to war! We spat in their arrogance and you want them to be so easy after that accepted our victory!)? Good luck!
      PS ... what I am putting here is not to inform ... we are pleased to see how the arrogant saviors of mankind are powerlessly erupting in zelch)
      1. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 08: 57
        11
        But they cannot reverse the fact that the "tomato sellers" with small arms and a knife took bare rocks

        "They" cannot digest Eastern swagger. Yesterday all day we were screaming about victory. Today in the second round ... Let's wait for the results of the battles. Then we will talk calmly, without mutual insults.
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik 9 November 2020 09: 14
          -2
          It is possible and so. In general, it would be interesting to see the opinion of experts about the operation, if of course there are such here. But all this after the video from Shusha ..)
          1. Alexander Kopychev
            Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 09: 17
            +5
            "It's not a boy's speech, but a husband's." good
            1. Otshelnik
              Otshelnik 9 November 2020 16: 03
              0
              https://m.haqqin.az/news/193467
              1. Alexander Kopychev
                Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 17: 07
                +2
                Well, here is already something suitable for discussion. I googled the administrative building for a long time, the only thing I found.

                It looks like this is it. The truth is surprising about the almost complete absence of traces of heavy street fighting. I bet you offset, but, sorry, no signature yet wink Otherwise, I have a presentiment that there is still a cloud of denials and contradictory statements to be read ... That information foam will settle, you are always welcome.
                1. Otshelnik
                  Otshelnik 9 November 2020 19: 32
                  +1
                  It's nice to communicate with a person who communicates humanly ...
                  As for the Armenians ... I think they are knocked down ...
                  1. Alexander Kopychev
                    Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 19: 43
                    0
                    Now I read the truthful, finally, information in the Article "Shushi surrendered, the Azerbaijani army is on the outskirts of Stepanakert ..."
                    In a difficult time, the USSR directly spoke in the steel voice of Levitan: "After heavy and bloody battles, our troops left ..." Severe, but TRUTH! Today, the Internet "media" for the second day, the brains of the optimistic LIE! And what is it like for the Armenians now, after the collapse of hopes? As, Pashinyan ??? While the tail is wagging the dog, don't believe the good news !!!

                    Your test has already been signed. wink Congratulations!
                    1. Otshelnik
                      Otshelnik 9 November 2020 19: 56
                      0
                      good Thank you, Alexander.!
                      1. Alexander Kopychev
                        Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 20: 01
                        0
                        The last I would like to add - how many fighters were killed for the sake of the politicians' "beautiful pose". All this is sad (((((((((((((
            2. Otshelnik
              Otshelnik 9 November 2020 16: 08
              +1
              https://www.armenianreport.com/ru/pubs/264394/
              Which side do they repel attacks?)
  15. Livonetc
    Livonetc 9 November 2020 07: 57
    +4
    Quote: Greetings from Baku
    The main thing is to crow - and there, at least the Sun does not get up! (FROM)
    The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has set up its President!

    After the proofs are put up today, let's see who the zvizdobol is.

    And did the Ministry of Defense supply the same with Hadrut?
    The main thing in war is proof.
    The same great Anglicism as the pearl of our time - Hiley Likely.
  16. svoit
    svoit 9 November 2020 08: 16
    +6
    Quote: Nagaibak
    Can't you wait and then proudly report the result?)

    The brothers from Turkey will not wait, they agree on their visit in a week, and it is never too early to raise morale
  17. Azimuth
    Azimuth 9 November 2020 08: 20
    +2
    Quote: icant007
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Imagine what happened in Baku


    In Rostov-on-Don, there were also dances in the market at the entrance to the city) in the morning it seems like now the OMON is there)

    And detail?
    It seems that both of them were clearly told to sit quietly and silently puff into two holes.
    Yesterday, on the contrary, we had more Armenians crowding together, everyone was on the phone, clucking something on theirs, but it seemed like then silence. I think if they start, either one or the other, it is only for the best wink even though it’s zapadlo, but like our riot police, there will be “freelancers” right away, and they will cope without him until he gets from the base laughing
  18. Sergey Ui
    Sergey Ui 9 November 2020 08: 20
    +9
    Shushi is not mentioned at all in the official morning report of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense
  19. Tank hard
    Tank hard 9 November 2020 08: 20
    10
    Azerbaijani Defense Ministry fails to prove the capture of Shushi

    laughing Yesterday, in a neighboring branch, experts argued that the Azerbaijanis took this very Shushi with their bare hands. How does one feel about them after that? The answer is with a fair amount of humor .. laughing
  20. Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 08: 21
    11
    Well, that's a fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey. This is some kind of wrong honey. Yes, and with Aliyev it turned out somehow inconvenient ... After all, it was said, in Russian, let's wait for documentary confirmation. And as a result, this is ... Monday ...
  21. huntsman650
    huntsman650 9 November 2020 08: 53
    0
    My grandfather rested in Shusha, was that sanatorium? Before the war.
  22. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 09: 06
    +6
    This war will go down in history not only with the massive use of drones, but also with massive disintegration from both sides. Why declare the seizure / release of the victims to multiply ahead of time.
  23. Ramiz Babayev
    Ramiz Babayev 9 November 2020 09: 12
    -9
    Shusha was liberated practically in hand-to-hand combat, without any drones or modern technology. Correspondents of the French Le Monde in Khankendi write that the wounded from Shusha are brought mainly with bullet and knife wounds. Not even with machine guns or rifle wounds, but with pistol and knife wounds. This means that the city was taken almost in close hand-to-hand combat. That is, the mountain special forces worked. Moreover, during the offensive, climbing the mountain, the Azerbaijanis did not leave the wounded and killed on the battlefield - they were also taken to the fortress, Vestnik Kavkaza writes.

    Shusha, located at an altitude of 1400 m to 1800 m above sea level, is located on a cliff and is considered an impregnable fortress. The forces of special and mountain infantry units of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan on the night of November 3-4, making their way into the city from the side of the village of Dashalty and from the side of the greenhouse adjacent to the village of Gyaribali, having killed four posts of Armenian units, occupied the Old Fortress in the city itself and the Shusha prison. Having repulsed several attacks, the special forces began to expand the bridgehead in the city with battles.

    Outside the city, several sabotage groups of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan took control of the Khankendi - Shusha road. Azerbaijani units held out in the city for two days. The Armenian forces in the city were ground by special forces without the support of armored vehicles.

    By the evening of November 6, motorized rifle units of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces approached the city and on the night of November 7 completely knocked out Armenian units from the city. Several attempts at counterattacks by the Armenian Armed Forces did not lead to anything.

    I think that given the support of Armenia by France, this description of the events around Shushi, given by the French newspaper, is quite true.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 9 November 2020 09: 28
      +8
      Quote: Ramiz Babayev
      Shusha was liberated practically in hand-to-hand combat, without any drones or modern technology. Correspondents of the French Le Monde in Khankendi write that the wounded from Shusha are brought mainly with bullet and knife wounds. Not even with machine guns or rifle wounds, but with pistol and knife wounds. This means that the city was taken almost in close hand-to-hand combat.

      Sho, released again ?! How long will this epic last?
      Quote: Ramiz Babayev
      practically in hand-to-hand combat, without any drones and modern technology. Correspondents of the French Le Monde in Khankendi write that the wounded from Shusha are brought mainly with bullet and knife wounds. Not even with machine guns or rifle wounds, but with pistol and knife wounds.

      Does that ammunition run out when it comes to stabbing? wink

      Quote: Ramiz Babayev
      That is, the mountain special forces worked.

      This is what you call the babakhs?
      Quote: Ramiz Babayev
      I think that given the support of Armenia by France, this description of the events around Shushi, given by the French newspaper, is quite true.

      In light of the next seizure of Shushi, why not the Washington Post? repeat
    2. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 09: 33
      +8
      Correspondents of the French Le Monde in Khankendi write that the wounded from Shusha are brought mainly with bullet and knife wounds. Not even with machine guns or rifle wounds, but with pistol and knife wounds. This means that the city was taken almost in close hand-to-hand combat.

      Yeah-yeah ... Special forces stumbled upon a gang of fanatics armed exclusively with knives and pistols, go and gas !!!
      The enemy massively used chemical weapons ... etc and TP.
      You read the wrong magazine, your opus is more from Charlie Hebdo
  24. Azimuth
    Azimuth 9 November 2020 09: 26
    +2
    Quote: Artura
    Aliyev once again croaked)))))))) His words are worthless. They even managed to hold a parade in all cities))))))). Shushi they like their ears can not see !!!! The Armenians are thrashing them there, Mama do not cry !!!

    Hardly. They have a holiday today, apparently everyone is holding back to it. According to the French, there was a concrete batch and in many places it came to hand-to-hand combat.

    Other points are important here.
    1. The road. If the entire northern direction is clogged with the population fleeing from Stepanakert and Shushi, then the Armenian troops either cannot use it at all or its capacity has decreased by orders of magnitude. This is a maneuver, and reserves and supplies.
    2. Weather. Low cloudiness of recent days made the same Bayraktars fly lower and at a lower speed, the Armenians shot them down even with small arms, but today and tomorrow the forecast is good "Clear, +6".
    3. Red Bazaar and Martuni. Agdam, etc. What I write will seem wild and inexperienced, plus sides, some will begin to tell how fluffy they are, and the second that they are on horseback and everything is under their control and there is no defeat. But you need to understand that now there will be the dirtiest stage of the war between the troops of the parties and the war will go through a dead-end stage.
    The reserves were withdrawn to Shusha, new ones could not be transferred quickly, so many parts of the Armenians are doomed to defeat, but if only. In Karabakh, now we will talk about destruction or, in other words, targeted slaughter, this will happen for two reasons.
    The first is on the surface, they simply have no options to retreat to Armenia, the road is blocked by refugees.
    Second and main, it is political. Aliyev and his generals need to have by the beginning of a political settlement or by the end of the war the level of losses as close as possible to the figures of Armenian losses in manpower. This is difficult for the attacking side under normal conditions, by definition it always suffers large losses, but if we remember the 5th generation war was declared and blah blah, everything was presented as unpunished shooting of the wild and stupid. We see that the Armenians have higher losses in equipment and, most likely, significantly lower in manpower, while the Azerbaijanis, on the contrary, and the last operations were associated with very large losses. So, in the end, the Azerbaijanis will arrange fun for the old woman with the scythe and at the final stage will strive to inflict maximum damage and lose to the Armenians precisely in manpower, and not in equipment, which will stand up without supplies. If it is profitable for them to let the population go, they will have less to pretend to be internationalists and provide protection for the Armenian population, which in any case are not residents there, then the troops will not be allowed to leave for Armenia from a number of areas on purpose, even if Pashinyan and Armenia agree to the withdrawal of all troops as Aliyev publicly demands. Until the Azerbaijanis fill enough "dead souls", the Aliyevs will declare whatever they want, but in reality his troops will purposefully destroy the servicemen and detachments of Armenian volunteers, regardless of whether they are defending themselves, fleeing, surrendering, etc. And this will continue until they get acceptable figures for themselves, Aliyev in general, and each of his "victorious generals" for their specific losses and mistakes as a result of which they were.
    1. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 12: 13
      0
      In vain you, Mitrich, wrote a training manual for them ... I would not want you to be right, although what to expect from the "heirs" of the Janissaries?
      1. Past the crocodile
        Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 15: 14
        0
        Yes you! He also spared the nerves of the readers. After him I will repeat - there are no white and fluffy ones left. General bitterness, moreover, incited by politicians (they would go to the front)
        1. Alexander Kopychev
          Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 15: 20
          0
          So it is high time to lead all these "white and fluffy" to the "blacksmith" !!!
  25. Peter rybak
    Peter rybak 9 November 2020 09: 28
    -5
    By the way, how did the author determine that he was an Armenian artilleryman? lol
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 09: 40
      +1
      By form. On the muzzle, all the faces are the same, in theory it is difficult to distinguish, especially since most of them have Armenian blood, while others have Turkish.
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  27. Kent0001
    Kent0001 9 November 2020 09: 50
    -3
    It's just a matter of time. If not today, then tomorrow. The Armenians got to the full in this war ... but they chose their own path in the person of their current prime minister.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 12: 47
      +1
      And also the incompetent command of the army.
    2. Past the crocodile
      Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 15: 20
      -1
      Quote: Kent0001
      they chose their own path

      They may have chosen, too, but this will trigger a series of conflicts, the first of which is Novorossiya.
      1. Cottager452
        Cottager452 9 November 2020 16: 02
        0
        That's for sure!
  28. gorenina91
    gorenina91 9 November 2020 10: 15
    +1
    - Most likely the offensive of Azerbaijan has failed and this whole military epic "goes into winter" ...
    - Now they will shoot each other all winter and accuse each other of "violating agreements" (of which there will be a huge number) ...
    - Yes ... - Azerbaijan is exhausted ... - he did not succeed ... - Another stone in the garden of Aliyev and Erdogan ... - This especially does not suit Erdogan ... - no matter how now Erdogan tries to "replace" Aliyev ... -because such an outcome greatly undermines his authority ... -Erdogan begins to simply deflate ... like a balloon ...
    - And Pashinyan, on the contrary, is starting to gain points ... - after all, despite the loss of a large territory of Karabakh ... - the Armenians were still able to stop the superior forces of Azerbaijan ...
    - Well, for Russia such a final ... - is absolutely not profitable ... - Russia will now begin to meddle (as always) in Armenia with its free help; free equipment; free medicines; free equipment; free weapons and rake all this Armenian wateryag and need, and so on and so on ... - And this is poor Russia ???????????????????
    - And all the winnings will go to the Americans ... - too ... as always ...
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 10: 52
      +2
      At least indicate the sources you are citing.
      If, after all, Shusha was taken, and the Azerbaijanis went out of their way and did not reckon with the losses, so we will proceed from this for now, "winter-spring-summer-autumn" does not matter where the company leaves, it will simply end with the slaughter of Armenian soldiers, reservists and volunteers, that's all.
      The roads are shot through, in winter you can't run along the paths in the mountains, delivering something is not an option at all, there is no saving green paint, and all this against the background of air superiority - a fighter, a unit, a vehicle becomes a target like a fly on a clean white sheet.
  29. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 9 November 2020 10: 16
    -9
    Quote: sergo1914
    Quote: Greetings from Baku
    Wait, today is a public holiday - Flag Day. Proofs will be.


    Flag ponds? What for?

    Is it dazzling in your eyes from yesterday's moonshine? Where are the ponds?
  30. Gofman
    Gofman 9 November 2020 11: 03
    0
    It looks like the "capture of Shushi" will consist in cutting (or cutting) the Armenians' supply routes with reinforcements and equipment, and they will more and more pump this bag with their manpower. Then, very likely, the process began.
  31. Old tanker
    Old tanker 9 November 2020 11: 22
    +2
    I don't understand why the Armenian side did not prepare Shushi for defense in advance? There are no pre-prepared positions either in the city or on the approaches to it. Dense mountain paths are not mined. Controlled landmines are not laid to form powerful blockages on mountain roads and gorges. And the terrain around the planted landmines was not pre-targeted from previously prepared and camouflaged positions, to which self-propelled artillery would move on the first command (so as not to be destroyed in advance at these positions). Why were the passes not saddled by stationed fire groups? Is this complete carelessness or betrayal? After all, it was clear from the first days of the fighting that Shushi is the key to war. And they have not only the Azerbaijani infantry galloping across the mountains at full speed, but also the armored vehicles chasing.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 12: 48
      0
      They have not prepared anything in Karabakh - because they are brakes.
  32. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 9 November 2020 12: 12
    -4
    Today is November 9th! AzerGebbels News "could not prove the capture of Shushi"! The last hours are silent "in a rag" So what? It turns out that Aliyev farted loudly into a puddle !? And where are "our azepy", who on November 8 loudly yelled: "Hurray! Ours took it! Everyone is walking! We order tables in Shushi restaurants!" ? Where are their comments today? what
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 12: 50
      +3
      The fact that Pegov from Shushi was piled up to Stepanakert yesterday morning is the very confirmation that the Azerbaijanis entered the city.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 9 November 2020 16: 27
        -2
        Quote: Vadim237
        The fact that Pegov from Shushi was piled up to Stepanakert yesterday morning is the very confirmation that the Azerbaijanis entered the city.

        Have you watched the cartoon about Winnie the Pooh? Remember the empty pot and the bursting pre ... balloon? "As it comes in, so it goes out!" And Pegov, who is this? Deputy Defense Minister of Karabakh? Deputy President of Karabakh? Why is it important for you the absence (presence) of it in Shushi? Can't Pegov leave Shushi somewhere on his journalistic business? And you somehow get: "Chief! Everything is lost!" ...
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 9 November 2020 16: 30
          +1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Chef! Everything is lost

          The Armenians lost everything, that's for sure.
          On the page of the Speaker of Artsakh President Vahram Poghosyan, a record appeared that the Armenian side had lost control over Shushi.

          We are waiting for clarifications from the Ministry of Defense of Armenia and Artsakh and other officials.

          https://www.facebook.com/102006298347932/posts/135135055035056/
  33. iouris
    iouris 9 November 2020 12: 26
    +1
    Trump, too, has not yet been able to prove his victory over Biden.
  34. Ramiz Babayev
    Ramiz Babayev 9 November 2020 16: 07
    +3
    https://haqqin.az/news/193467
    Here is the proof, the flag of Azerbaijan is over Shusha. Of course, the mass of the people will not believe. But that's their problem.
  35. Konnick
    Konnick 9 November 2020 16: 33
    +3
    Quote: Ramiz Babayev
    https://haqqin.az/news/193467
    Here is the proof, the flag of Azerbaijan is over Shusha. Of course, the mass of the people will not believe. But that's their problem

    But for some reason, the admirers of the fascist Nzhdeh fell silent. Shusha is taken. The city, or rather the fortress, there are 15-20 cliffs on three sides, the fortress walls on the 4th ... the Az-sky Armed Forces completed the difficult task.
  36. Vitold Godunov
    Vitold Godunov 9 November 2020 19: 30
    -1
    Shusha was captured practically in hand-to-hand combat, without any drones and equipment. Correspondents of the French LeMond in Stepanakert write that the wounded from Shusha come mainly with pistol and knife wounds. Not even with machine guns or rifle wounds, but with pistol and knife wounds. This means that the city was taken almost in close hand-to-hand combat. And that means mountain special forces.
    So those who like to say that Azerbaijanis do not know how to fight, but only know how to trade, let them shut up for ever and ever, amen.)))
    Shusha, located at an altitude of 1400 m to 1800 m above sea level, is an impregnable fortress located on a rock.
    Forces of special operations and mountain infantry units of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan on the night of November 3-4, making their way into the city from the side of the village of Dashalty and from the side of the greenery adjacent to the village of Gyaribali, having killed four posts of Armenian units, occupied the "Old Fortress" in the city itself and the Shusha prison of the covered mode ... after repelling several attacks, the special forces began to expand the bridgehead in the city with battles. Outside the city, several sabotage groups of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan took control of the road from Khankyandi (Stepanakert) - Shusha. In this state, the Azerbaijani units were kept in the city for two days. All the Armenian forces, which did not have time to knock out saboteurs on the roads, were ground by special forces in the city. Without the support of armored vehicles, on an autonomous mode (Semyon Pegov, Yuri Podolyaka, other arrogant Armenophobes have you already been surprised by the Azerbaijani army, or not yet?) ... Muzeffer ordumuza eshq olsun!
    By the evening of the 6th, the motorized rifle units of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces had already approached the city, and from the 6th to the 7th in the night, they completely drove the Armenian units out of the city towards Khankyandi. Several attempts at counterattacks by the Armenian Armed Forces did not lead to anything ...
    This is a very important victory of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, which is now showing the whole world what the Holy Land of the Ancestors is and how to fight for it !!! Haminizi yene tebrik edirem!
  37. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 10 November 2020 06: 20
    0
    how tired of stupid articles ...