The Armenian side claims to inflict great damage to the enemy when trying to break through to the city of Shushi

The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reports on ongoing hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh.

According to the press service of the department, another military column of Armenian troops in the conflict zone was destroyed. It is alleged that a convoy from the 4th motorized rifle regiment of the 37th rifle division of the Armenian Armed Forces was destroyed.

The report says that the convoy was heading to Stepanakert (Azerbaijani name - Khankendi) and consisted of 2 infantry fighting vehicles, 5 KamAZ and Ural trucks.

From the summary:

The military equipment in the convoy burned down.

It is noteworthy that both sides of the conflict are engaged in information duels on the network. As soon as one side announces the destruction of an enemy column, the other immediately tries to declare a similar combat success. Let us remind that earlier in the Ministry of Defense of Armenia it was announced about the defeat of the column of Azerbaijani troops.

Meanwhile, the Azerbaijani military department continued to demonstrate personnel from the territories taken under its control. In this case, we are talking about the deserted villages of the Jebrail region:

The Armenian side claims that the Azerbaijani troops suffered great damage when they tried to break through in the Karin Tak - Shushi section. The report refers to the destruction of two army trucks with personnel, as well as immediately 4 drones. Earlier it was reported about the destruction of several tanks Armed Forces of Azerbaijan.

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[aszzz888]

The Azerbaijani military department continued to demonstrate personnel from the territories taken under its control.

The Armenian side claims that great damage was inflicted on the Azerbaijani troops when they tried to break through in the Karin Tak-Shushi sector

So figure out which of them is driving))! The end and end is not visible to this confrontation.

[Livonetc]

The Armenians are still being pressed.
If this continues, the Azerbaijanis will take Shushi.
To prevent this, the NKR army must inflict really heavy damage by setting up a cauldron, destroying a serious group.
But they do not seem to have the appropriate capabilities.
You can't hold it on your own.
And Armenia itself has not yet begun to fight for these territories.

[Stock]

Shusha was already taken last night. Podolyak showed a video showing an Armenian tank and infantry on the outskirts of Shushi, retreating towards Stepanakert and shooting towards the center of Shushi. The video was filmed by the Armenians last night. I do not give a link, it is very easy to find this blogger on YouTube

[Livonetc]

So far, the situation is similar to that of Hadrut.
There are no really confirmed facts about the capture of Shushi.

[Stock]

Armenia is fighting there in full, watch the latest videos of Anna news, there tanks with the Armenian coat of arms were in the Shushi region

[Livonetc]

There, and the helmets were on the militia with a red star.
This does not mean that the soldiers of the Red Army are fighting for the NKR.

[Stock]

Compare a helmet to a tank? I think the conversation is over!

[TermNachTer]

How long will it take to draw the emblem on the tank? How do you know that the video is from Shushi, and not from Yerevan or Baku? All these videos are designed for very naive people.

[KARAKURT777]

The helmet is not a weapon and it is not numbered.

[private person]

And Armenia itself has not yet begun to fight for these territories.

Probably it will be more accurate to fight with nothing and no one who wants to die.

[Konnick]

Today, 103 years ago, on November 8, 1917, the Peace Decree was adopted. The first goal of our country was the peaceful coexistence of nations and nationalities! Not confrontation ...

[Ingenegr]

The bald app, at which the interethnic armed clashes began, sold — I don’t believe I didn’t — and the Peace Decree and all the rest. It was under this bastard that people, at that time still a single country, began to kill each other for another single territory. I don’t know for whom how, but for me it was incomprehensible then, and there is no doubt about the opposition that was artificially created at that time now.
No wonder neither God nor the devil is in a hurry to take this vile tongue-tied tongue.

[Ramiz Babayev]

French Le Monde published a report from Karabakh, in which she noted another victory of the Azerbaijani army.

“Azerbaijani troops have reached the historic city of Shusha - the main target of the counteroffensive launched on September 27 by Baku. The tense struggle turned in their favor. Armenian troops are smashed to shreds: with dozens of bloodied, exhausted wounded, in the bodies of military vehicles, they run away to a hospital in the Stepanakert valley (Khankendi). Others, exhausted, descend from the mountains, not knowing if they will resume the fight. They were thrown back by artillery fire and sniper shots. Even if Stepanakert (Khankendi) does not recognize this, the night battles on November 6 for Shusha ended with the victory of Azerbaijani troops, ”the Le Monde report says.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: Ramiz Babayev

troops are smashed to shreds: with dozens of bloodied, emaciated wounded

Quote: Ramiz Babayev

they run away to the hospital

Quote: Ramiz Babayev

Others, exhausted, descend from the mountains, not knowing if they will resume the fight

Frontline reports are not compiled with such pathos, as literary men write, usually drawing information from their imagination

[Ramiz Babayev]

This is what the French wrote, not me. War is like war, French proverb. And the reality is that the flag of Azerbaijan is already over Shusha. Considering that I am Azerbaijani and, accordingly, an interested comrade, I decided that I would rather give a summary of the French than my own words.

[Stock]

So it is written by a journalist)). There has been no official confirmation yet.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Stock

So it is written by a journalist)). There has been no official confirmation yet.

And you are happy to rant about what has not yet been confirmed as a fait accompli ...

[Ramiz Babayev]

Are these disadvantages to the French?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Ramiz Babayev

Are these disadvantages to the French?

From the French.

[Stock]

This is from annoyance and anger, from me to you plus for well-reasoned information

[KARAKURT777]

You buddy won't stay afloat here. VO is a platform for Armenophiles. Here even iron arguments are minus, and Armenian fairy tales are plus. It is difficult to lead a discussion when the moderator is biased.

[Herman 4223]

Most don't care about Armenia or Azerbaijan.
For example, I think that you will dispose of each other there for a long time. The victory of Azerbaijan will be slowed down if it does not work out by military means, then with the help of a truce. The conflict is just beginning.

[Thrifty]

For all the time, there was not a single message about the sinking of an enemy destroyer or battleship, about the capture of a foreign aircraft carrier - the space in information tales on both sides for their "daughters of controversial Crimean women" with a local flavor is huge!

[Castle]

Well, this is in the future, when the Armenians seize land "from sea to sea" - this is their general plan.

[Brands]

The Azerbaijani side trusts more, they have no one canceled the personnel from the field and the victories.
Looking at the personnel of the liberated territories, there are questions. What the Armenians have been doing there all these years, they show some kind of destroyed semi-structures and judging by their appearance, they were destroyed long ago.
So these lands were for the Armenians for show, they lived like in the Middle Ages, now it is clear that more than half of the Armenians live outside Armenia, most of the migrant workers here after the Kirghiz are Armenians, there are very few Azerbaijanis.

[Magadan]

Quote: Merkit

The Azerbaijani side trusts more,

is it true? And about how they take the same village several times, does it bother you?
As for the video, the Armenians are getting more of it. The Armenians are getting used to it.
Recovering from the first bad month of the war
But the victory will be for the Armenians, from today there is no doubt.

[Hello from Baku]

You keep the information front here on the site much better than the Armenians near Shusha.

[Otshelnik]

Yeah ... in Magadan there will be ,, victory ,, for the Armenians))

[KARAKURT777]

I congratulate you and your brothers Armenians!

[Alexander Kopychev]

Looking at the personnel of the liberated territories, there are questions. What the Armenians have been doing there all these years, they show some kind of destroyed semi-structures and judging by their appearance, they were destroyed long ago.
So these lands were for the Armenians for show

I was already interested in this issue and knowledgeable comrades enlightened me - this is the notorious buffer zone, practically unpopulated places of past battles.

[forest1]

If the Armenians boast of how cool and valiant they are. So the matter is going to surrender. At least 95% of events fit this rule.

[Magadan]

And the hysteria of the Azeris and their self-hypnosis, like their type, everything is fine, I like it more and more

[forest1]

Well, they probably are not doing well. But if you looked at the Karabakh globe, you probably saw that the lands are slowly but surely passing to Azerbaijan. There is no end in sight yet. If they continue to lose to the Armenians in the same way, then Karabakh may pass to them.

[Magadan]

Well, you probably see the front configuration as well, right?
and you have enough historical examples that the success of the first month and the initial seizure of territories often ends tragically for an invader.
We'll see.
If the Armenians grind enough Turks in the mountains near Shusha, and then gather forces for a counterattack in general, somewhere near Zangelan, then the kirdyk of the entire Turkish-Azeri campaign.

Armenians need DRGs. Lots of DRGs!

[forest1]

All your calls to the DRG, advice on the conduct of hostilities, give out an interested person in you. You'd better write to them in the Ministry of Defense (I will allow myself to give advice once too), and not here. There will hardly be any sense to write here. Well, we'll see in a week. Was your advice on the conduct of hostilities useful to the Armenians, and did the Kursk Bulge happen near Shusha with the Battle of Stalingrad?

[Runway]

Why do Armenians need a lot of DRGs? To what depth and time frame will these many go into the "gray zone"? How do you see the withdrawal of many groups in the highlands? What are the tasks of the groups (respectively, the number and armament)?

[forest1]

Such advice gives just the fact that a person sees the situation of Armenians as desperate. DRG and mass partisanship is just an attempt to do at least something. The outcome of wars is decided by armies through combined arms combat. And not a handful of DRGs that will be swatted by the army by the encirclement and combing

[Runway]

The organized actions of small groups in the roller coasters may well influence the actions of the attacking side (loss of pace, distraction of the CC from the nsou to provide countermeasures to small groups). Such actions will not be decisive, but as an active defense, they are permissible.
This is the question of withdrawing to the "gray zone" (where small groups of the attacking side are already operating).
The Armenians did not plan to retreat to the defense centers leaving their groups in the mountains for the task of rear guard or rdo for objective reasons (people are finite, and under conditions of air control by Azerbaijanis, it is difficult to operate with a reserve of l / s along the front line).
We'll see it by the end of the calendar autumn.

[Otshelnik]

Why would you, to a person, have such difficult questions back?)) That's it, their brains are boiling))

[icant007]

Quote: Magadan

and you have enough historical examples that the success of the first month and the initial seizure of territories often ends tragically for an invader.

Do not compare with Russia. We have a reserve for the territory. And this is our national strategy - to lure deeper)))

[Reviews]

Quote: icant007

this is our national strategy - to lure deeper)))

Two such wars in history: 1812 and the Second World War.

[icant007]

Quote: Avis

Two such wars in history: 1812 and the Second World War.

The Polish intervention of 1920, the beginning of the 17th century, the Northern War (Poltava), ... The Civil War is also in principle.

[Reviews]

Quote: icant007

The Polish intervention of 1920, the beginning of the 17th century, the Northern War (Poltava), ... The Civil War is also in principle.

In all these wars, there was no exchange of time for distance. There were retreats (civil and Poles in the 17th century), loss of territory for decades (the Polish campaign) because of our stupidity. And the North is not at all in the subject, read its move. Maneuver war, usual for that time, with retreats and offensives, interspersed with battles.

[icant007]

Quote: Avis

In all these wars, there was no exchange of time for distance.

I thank you that we have where to retreat.
And you tell me about the exchange of time)

[Reviews]

Quote: icant007

Quote: Avis

In all these wars, there was no exchange of time for distance.

I thank you that we have where to retreat.
And you tell me about the exchange of time)

And this is the point of retreating deep into one's territory: gaining time, exhausting the enemy, and stretching his communications. Sometime all these reasons are together, sometimes 1-2 of them. And this happened only in two World Wars.

[icant007]

Quote: Avis

And this is the point of retreating deep into one's territory: gaining time, exhausting the enemy, and stretching his communications.

And which of these meanings do you see in Karabakh?

[Reviews]

And which of these meanings do you see in Karabakh?

What does Karabakh have to do with it? One participant wrote here about another country:

Quote: icant007

this is our national strategy - to lure deeper)))

And in Karabakh, there is a clear seizure of territory by one country and its loss by another. And it looks like Azerbaijan will achieve its goal. Karabakh and Armenia are simply retreating, they have no choice.

[icant007]

Quote: Avis

What does Karabakh have to do with it? One participant wrote here about another country:
Quote: icant007
this is our national strategy - to lure deeper)))

In general, it was a joke response to a comment by another author)
And the serious answer was "You do not compare with Russia. We have a reserve for the territory."

This author tried to show that the Armenian retreat does not mean anything yet.

You entered this topic. As I understand it, defending the author of Magadan. And he spoke about Karabakh.

[Reviews]

No, I just wrote that the analogy with the USSR is out of place.
I did not defend anyone, I do not understand who is "bad" and who is "malchish".

[icant007]

Well, so I wrote about it)

[Reviews]

Quote: icant007

Well, so I wrote about it)

I vaguely expressed myself: the USSR has nothing to do with it, because "luring deeper" is not "our national strategy" and took place in only two wars, and only in one - 1812 - it was a deliberate decision of the command. Maybe in some other countries and is, but not in the Republic of Ingushetia / USSR.

[Peter rybak]

Armenians need DRGs. Lots of DRGs!

The DRG is more complicated than the regular army. If in the regular season it is enough to be able to shoot, then the DRG fighters undergo special training. There is a subversive business, and parachute, and fire training, and physical. In addition, the combatants must be prepared for a long existence in an enemy position apart from the rear. There is no one to support them. They also have to be excellent scouts.
And, as we understood from the events of the first days of the war, the Armenians have full seams with intelligence. Real fighters who were trained in the Soviet army and were the basis of the Armenian campaign in 91-94, either irrevocably aged, or died, or died, or long ago fled from their historical homeland. Understand, there is no one to sculpt DRG from. Well, on the strength of a dozen or so groups it is possible to recruit, but this is too little, taking into account the fact that Azerbaijanis are quickly calculating and exterminating them.
And under the current circumstances, any new infusion of fighters from Armenia into this war is unnecessary, irretrievably lost blood. The war is lost, so as not to say other couch experts like me.

[Gogia]

There are many Azerbaijanis in discussion today. It seems to them that they are waging a liberation war, but they do not read stories and do not remember how the conflict began. And it began long before 1988. And for Russia, such friends as Armenians and Azerbaijanis are like a stop-signal to a hare. Some of the Turks look in their mouths, others are all trying to eat the fish and sit on 30923. At the same time, they periodically shit. They forgot that only as part of two empires - the Russian and the USSR, they lived normally without a shit.

[Albay]

It was under the USSR that the last so-called "srach" began.

[Gogia]

This srach began only thanks to Gorbachev and Shevardnadze, as well as overseas partners who gave some politicians their paws. Under Stalin, everyone was silent in a rag and worked. How many Armenians lived in Baku in 1981? And what about Azerbaijanis in Yerevan? Under the USSR, you had such a development - from a plow to a nuclear power plant ... And Azerbaijan lives only on the Caspian oil and gas - you also need to understand this.

[MIG_2]

Well, how does Russia differ from Azerbaijan, the same gas and oil, by the way, most of the gas that is consumed in the North Caucasus is Azerbaijani gas

[icant007]

Quote: Gogia

but they do not read stories and do not remember how the conflict began

What story should you read?

Ancient, Middle Ages, new, latest?

History must be known, but it is futile to appeal to it as the only argument.

Armenia is constantly referring to Strabo, and where will we go with this approach in international relations?

[forest1]

How's your success? Was it tragic for the invaders?

[Li17]

this is even more believable. And then first hundreds of tanks and a regiment of manpower! As I began to read that some that others about the "military" successes ... I thought that the season of forcing chacha had begun!

[Mountain shooter]

Huge losses. At both sides. Azerbaijan is squeezing its lands back. NPO will now be lost to Armenians. I am afraid there will be no Armenian population left in it. Well, somehow they can't do it ... that. Live peacefully.

[Magadan]

Artsakh will remain with the Armenians.
The losses of the Turks are much greater. Yes, they have a lot of strength. Many cattle from Idlib are driven to slaughter, but these forces are not endless either.
If their drones disappeared from the sky of Karabakh not because of bad weather, then, consider, the Azeri got into a fabulous mousetrap.
And there, the prophecy of Paisius the Avyatogorets about the return of Constantinople to the Greeks will soon be fulfilled

[Bakinec]

Karabakh is lost forever for Armenians. So instead of quarreling with neighbors based on ancient Armenian myths, the Armenians will be better off if they start to create normal good-neighborly relations, including with Azerbaijan.

[Alexander Kopychev]

Quote: Bakinec

Karabakh is lost forever for Armenians. So instead of quarreling with neighbors based on ancient Armenian myths, the Armenians will be better off if they start to create normal good-neighborly relations, including with Azerbaijan.

You (not the one, not the other) will have neither Peace nor Peace until you stop frighten each other of their children.

[Gogia]

Someone was friends with Armenians in Baku in 1918 ... And in 1914-15 he was also friends with Armenians on the territory of the Ottoman Empire. Turks, Kurds and Azerbaijanis have always been "friends" with the Armenians - exactly until some people hit them on the sopatka.

[Albay]

Yes Gogia On March 31, 1918, the Armenians massacred 100 thousand Azerbaijanis in Baku. They are not worthy of friendship.

[karima]

Quote: Magadan

Artsakh will remain with the Armenians.

What's the problem with the internet? There is no need to answer for the market ...

[Gogia]

Now I recognize the fraternal Azerbaijani people. ... Threats and rudeness ...

[karima]

Quote: Gogia

Now I recognize the fraternal Azerbaijani people. ... Threats and rudeness ...

And what is the threat or the rudeness of the macaw, right? For more than a month now Armenian robots have been singing how things are going well for them, right? They talk about how they breathe, and why? There is no need to answer for the market. No macaw rudeness, the truth.

[Rubina]

1. God gave neighbors to Azerbaijanis. Instead of establishing trade contacts with neighbors and thinking about the future, you live in a parallel historical reality. You have territorial claims against 3 out of 4 neighbors, except Iran.
2. The population of Greece is 10.5 million, the population of Istanbul is 16 million. Theoretically, “the Greeks took Constantinople” and the whole of Greece will move to Istanbul? And who will live in Greece?
The Armenians took 7 regions around Karabakh and what did you do with them? Everything was destroyed. Nobody lives there. In 1989, 150 thousand Armenians lived in Karabakh itself, and now 120 thousand. Don't you want to live on your own and won't let others?
3. Go down to the ground. Armenia lost this war before it began - the economy, demography, equipping the army and training soldiers, military, strategy, diplomacy, international law, information war, strong power, support for power by the population - in all respects Azerbaijan is stronger.
4. The sooner Armenia understands this, the fewer guys and civilians will die on both sides.

[Michael_59]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Oh, how they do not work ... this. Live peacefully.

Do you understand that the Turks will trample after our lands?

[Magadan]

And there is. The damage to Azerbaijanis seems to be not weak.
The bottom line is the following (I wrote about it about 8 hours ago):

Azer was attacked from the village of Sygnakh to the village of Shushikend (outskirts of Shushi). And from there, from Sygnakh, they tried to cut the Lachin-Shushi highway.
If reinforcements approached the Azerbaijanis, then something could have happened. But for some reason the reinforcements did not come.
At first, the Armenians beat everyone to the maximum from defense, and then counterattacked in a completely different place on the Lachin-Shushi highway.
At the same time, the Armenians used armored vehicles with might and main, because Azeri drones don't fly in the sky anymore. It is not yet clear why, but in reality the Armenians no longer pay attention to the threat from the sky.
Now the main thing is that the Armenians have human resources! I think Armenians understand that now is the time for DRGs of 5-10 people. Even without much preparation, simply flood the mountains and forests with groups that will destroy the supply of the Turks.

One way or another, so far everything is very promising. Victory to the Armenians!

[Castle]

STEPANAKERT, November 8 - RIA Novosti. Journalists, who were in the capital of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, were temporarily taken to Yerevan for security reasons, a representative of the organization that provides the press told RIA Novosti.
A group of Russian and foreign media journalists covered the events in Stepanakert. As the representative of the organization explained, this measure is temporary.
"The journalists were taken out temporarily for security reasons," the source said.
The message about leaving Stepanakert was received on Saturday afternoon.

[Livonetc]

For Armenians, Shushi is not as rosy as you describe.
They are close to losing control over the highway and, in a certain perspective, will lose Shushi.
Azerbaijanis are slowly but steadily advancing.
A major counterstrike or cauldron is needed to reverse the trend.
But, for the entire period, the NKR army did not successfully carry out any such operation.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Livonetc

For Armenians, Shushi is not as rosy as you describe.
They are close to losing control over the highway and, in a certain perspective, will lose Shushi.
Azerbaijanis are slowly but steadily advancing.
A major counterstrike or cauldron is needed to reverse the trend.
But, for the entire period, the NKR army did not successfully carry out any such operation.

Moreover, being initially at the dominant heights, and knowing that sooner or later there will be a war, they merged them in Yerevan.

[Kerensky]

now is the time for DRGs for 5-10 people. Even without much preparation,

I don't see the point. Such groups are only light rifle with limited ammo. Did you go hiking? A tent, a sleeping bag, things, groceries and every little thing, and now a full backpack. Without rifle and cartridges.
We would like to fill the mountains - it was necessary to create caches, bases, there was time.

[Albay]

Magadan and who told you a long fairy tale. Shushakend (the network is full of videos with the changing of flags in the center of the village) was liberated by the Azerbaijanis as early as yesterday. Azerbaijan's positions on the Lachin-Shusha highway have been further expanded.

At first, the Armenians beat everyone to the maximum from defense, and then counterattacked in a completely different place on the Lachin-Shushi highway.

What do you smoke?)))
Shusha was already liberated at night !!

[Alexander Kopychev]

Let's wait for tomorrow's festive statement by Ilham Aliyev.

[Albay]

Alexander makes people happy with you on holidays.
Aliyev has just announced the release of Shushi!)

[Alexander Kopychev]

Congratulations!!!

[Artavazdych]

Do you have any links to counterattacks at Lachin? They write a lot where there is no confirmation yet.
The Armenian side is almost silent today. No information, only from officials, and only short phrases. It looks like the Armenians are overstrained now. Yesterday, in fact, they talked about it. Today or tomorrow is the peak of the war.

[KARAKURT777]

You are our storyteller

[Stirbjorn]

Podolyaka talks about the capture of Shushi.

[Rubina]

1. We entered Shusha on the night from Friday to Saturday. On Saturday, they finally strengthened. Khankendi is being shot from Shushi and you don't even need to take him.
2. About cutting communications - look at the map - supplies are coming from the territory of Azerbaijan and the de-occupied territories in the south, where the plain is and where our army is.
The mountainous and wooded area in the north has not yet been occupied by the Azerbaijani army and no one will storm it. There are almost no settlements there. With the cut roads to Armenia and without the local population, certain groups will not survive the winter.
3. About drones - there is a delay with bayraktars, but the Turks have already launched the required part into production, there is no breakdown with Israeli and local drones, there are simply no distant targets for drones.

[Magadan]

ha ha three times.
The video shows a lot of Armenian technology. Are these no longer targets for the Bayraktars?
Not so long ago, yours boasted that there are so many drones that they are already chasing individual soldiers.

[Hello from Baku]

You shouldn't be so categorical. Today or tomorrow there will be proofs and you will be exhibited here as bullshit.

[Magadan]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Podolyaka talks about the capture of Shushi.

Podolyak, whether an alarmist, or really for the Azeris, drowns under the guise of a worn-out for the Armenians.

[Greenwood]

And for whom to drown? For the Armenians or what?

[Artavazdych]

It became clear about Podolyak that he was paid from the first days. This is Yurassuma

[Konnick]

Quote: Magadan

Armenians need DRGs. Lots of DRGs!

DRGs are waiting for you, the Armenians are missing you.

[Konnick]

Quote: WFP

Why do Armenians need a lot of DRGs?

It doesn't matter, he liked the abbreviation
Dyrg, dyrg and kings

[Konnick]

Quote: Qala

The journalists were taken out temporarily for security reasons, "the source said.
The message about leaving Stepanakert was received on Saturday afternoon.

Have you forgotten Pegov?

[Narak-zempo]

It is important for Russians to remember that one should not show sympathy for either side.
Both betrayed Russia equally.
In both, Russians are equally hated.

[Turanov]

Quote: Narak-zempo

It is important for Russians to remember that one should not show sympathy for either side.
Both betrayed Russia equally.
In both, Russians are equally hated.

Well said, but Armenia is still closer to us historically, we defend it, and she pays with Russia with her talented sons (at least during the Soviet era, it was so).
And Azerbaijan is nevertheless closer to the Turks. 23 Baku commissars, we remember
No offense! Let's stop this carnage there, otherwise ..

[Hello from Baku]

Otherwise, what?

[Turanov]

Quote: Greetings from Baku

Otherwise, what?

Good question, we think about it for now ..So you can calmly kill each other, like 30 years ago. You need to let off steam, right?
And we will always have time to pull apart with slaps and kicks.

[Hello from Baku]

From the couch, everyone is so bold.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Greetings from Baku

From the couch, everyone is so bold.

Ag'myan goyim are such goyim

[Angivin]

And what are you responsible for all of Russia here?
You'd better save the slaps and kicks for yourself ..

[Peter rybak]

We remember 23 Baku commissars
No offense! Let's stop this carnage there, otherwise ..

I do not quite understand in what context you mentioned the commissioners, but here, just in case, is their list:

Avakyan, Baghdasar Ayrapetovich - commandant of the city of Baku (according to other sources, Avekyan).
Azizbekov, Mashadi Azim-bek-oglu - Baku provincial commissar.
Amiryan, Tatevos Minasovich - member of the Dashnaktsutyun party, commander of the cavalry detachment.
Amiryan, Arsen Minasovich - editor of the newspaper "Bakinsky Rabochy".
Basin, Meer Velkovich - member of the Military Revolutionary Committee of the Caucasus Army.
Berg, Eigen Avgustovich - sailor, communications chief of the Soviet troops in Baku.
Bogdanov, Anatoly Abramovich - an employee.
Bogdanov, Solomon Abramovich - member of the Military Revolutionary Committee.
Boryan, Armenak Artyomovich - journalist.
Vezirov, Mir-Hasan Kyazim oglu - People's Commissar of Agriculture.
Gabyshev, Ivan Yakovlevich - brigade commissar.
Japaridze, Prokofy Aprasionovich - Chairman of the Baku Council of Workers, Peasants, Soldiers and Sailor Deputies.
Zevin, Yakov Davidovich - People's Commissar of Labor.
Koganov, Mark Romanovich - member of the Military Revolutionary Committee.
Korganov, Grigory Nikolaevich - People’s Commissar for Naval Affairs.
Kostandyan, Aram Martirosovich - Deputy People's Commissar of Food.
Malygin, Ivan Vasilievich - Deputy Chairman of the Military Revolutionary Committee of the Caucasus Army, member of the board of the People’s Commissariat for Naval Affairs.
Metaxa, Irakliy Panaitovich - Shaumyan’s personal guard.
Mishneh, Isai Abramovich - clerk of the Military Revolutionary Committee.
Nikolayshvili, Ivan Mikhailovich - personal guard of Japaridze.
Osepyan, Suren Grigorievich - editor of the newspaper Izvestia of the Baku Council.
Petrov, Grigory Konstantinovich - military commissar of the Baku region, commander of the Red Guard detachment.
Polukhin, Vladimir Fedorovich - member of the collegium of the Commissariat for Naval Affairs of the RSFSR.
Solntsev, Fedor Fedorovich - military worker, commissar of the military instructor school.
Violetov, Ivan Timofeevich - Chairman of the Council of National Economy.
Shaumyan, Stepan Georgievich - extraordinary commissar of the Caucasus, chairman of the Baku Council of People's Commissars.
There were also Ionesyan (not to be confused with the first Soviet serial killer Vladimir Ionesyan), Ter-Sahakyants, Nurijanyan.

Only 2 Azerbaijanis. Judging from the list, it is not entirely clear for whom these commissioners worked. And here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

"On November 2 (15), 1917, a week after the fall of the Provisional Government in Petrograd, the Baku Council of Workers, Peasants and Soldiers' Deputies (Baksovet) was formed in Baku, which was later headed by the Bolshevik Stepan Shaumyan. In April 1918, the Baku Soviet, with the support of the armed As a result of the bloody March events, the detachments of the Armenian party "Dashnaktsutyun" established their power in Baku. "

[Turanov]

Quote: Peter Rybak

Only 2 Azerbaijanis. Judging from the list, it is not entirely clear for whom these commissioners worked. And here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

That's why I remembered ...

[Albay]

By the way, they were reburied when the remains were recently, the brothers Amiryan and Shaumyan were not in the grave, so it is true that the British transported them to India.

[Albay]

23 Baku commissars we remember wink soldier
No offense!

why have you forgotten 3 of them?)))

Let's stop this carnage there, otherwise .. negative

Otherwise, what? Scared the hedgehog with a wet booty))

[MIG_2]

in Dagestan, these commissars are well remembered, who staged a massacre in Derbent and adjacent territories

[Magadan]

Why are you lying?
A bunch of my friends have been to Armenia. Everyone is delighted with the relationship.
There is at least one fact of hatred in Russians on the part of the Armenians come here

[Turanov]

Quote: Magadan

Why are you lying?
A bunch of my friends have been to Armenia. Everyone is delighted with the relationship.
There is at least one fact of hatred in Russians on the part of the Armenians come here

There are a lot of Armenians on TV, and they are completely harmless and talented, they argue without any malice and hidden implications (unlike Jews, of whom there are also many) There is clearly jealousy))))

[Alexander Kopychev]

This is kind of not very good. If you don’t want to look for a long time, the key phrase sounded there - you, Russians, Turks themselves ... I am sure that this is not an indicator and the "average temperature in the hospital" looks different, but you demanded "At least one fact ..."

[Alexander Kopychev]

"... Yes, we are Scythians,
Yes, we are asians
With slanting
И greedy eyes ... "

[Timofey Charuta]

So everything was revealed: Russians and Turks are one family! And here we are on the site of nonsense, you know, we are discussing ...

"The Russians are great scammers, you have Tatar blood ..." - America is another matter, these will help and protect ...

Wah, the woman said well!

[Peter rybak]

Quote: Narak-zempo

It is important for Russians to remember that one should not show sympathy for either side.
Both betrayed Russia equally.
In both, Russians are equally hated.

- You are apolitical, I swear, on my word! You don't understand the political situation ...
- Don't you confuse your personal coat with the state one!

You do not pass off your personal opinion as public opinion.

[Pavlos Melas]

Chickens are counted in the fall, let's look at the results of the whole company who openly lied and who just misinformed. Even if you believe the Armenians, it will be difficult to recapture the territories that they have lost. The Azerbaijani army has changed for 30 years now it is not so easy to fold it. And no one will change the government during the war.

[Livonetc]

The Azerbaijani army has changed.
But the losses of Azerbaijanis are great.

[Pavlos Melas]

The Azerbaijani army has changed, but the losses of the Azerbaijanis are great.

Yes, this is true, but not only the army is fighting, but society is fighting. In the last war, the Azeri shouted about the Pskov paratroopers, but in the first place they themselves lost the war. Now the Armenians are shouting about the Turks and terrorists, but if they lose, they will lose. The first month showed that they were not ready for such a war. If the Armenians survive, then we can also say that this is theirs and only their victory. Even if the north wind blew something that drones don't fly for a couple of days.

[Livonetc]

The wind blew in natural terms.
The weather deteriorates in late autumn.

[Gogia]

When Pashinyan came to power, many Armenians - the most intelligent and far-sighted - said: "The man who will merge Karabakh has come." Everything is going according to plan. Now a lot of Armenians are flying from the USA, Canada and France with a lot of experience in military operations. So they will spoil the nerves of the Azerbaijani army. And it is unforgivable for Azerbaijanis that they drove abreks from Syria + completely fell under the Turks. For this they will be -10 to karma and will be answered ...

[Pavlos Melas]

When Pashinyan came to power, many Armenians - the most intelligent and far-sighted - said: "The man who will merge Karabakh has come." Everything is going according to plan. Now a lot of Armenians are flying from the USA, Canada and France with a lot of experience in military operations. So they will spoil the nerves of the Azerbaijani army. And it is unforgivable for Azerbaijanis that they drove abreks from Syria + completely fell under the Turks. For this they will be -10 to karma and will be answered ...

If you look at the future, they are doing everything right. It is difficult to distinguish a Turkoman and a Turk from an Azeri, you will be tortured to prove. They thus reduce their losses and provide combat experience to their allies. The Turks will continue to use Sultan Murat's units. You cannot win the war by volunteers alone, so there will be questions after the war for Pashinyan and the previous government. In principle, the Armenians came to this war practically without allies, which also complicates their position.

[Albay]

There is no war without losses.
Vatan sag olsun !!!

[forest1]

And today not only everyone can win Azerbaijan tomorrow, but few people can do it (except NKR)

[Livonetc]

In the past, yes.
In the present, the NCR is defeated.

[Turanov]

It is noteworthy that both sides of the conflict are engaged in information duels on the network.

Yes, we know here ... It comes to the point that some boast that they have already hung the flag in Yerevan, while others in Baku .. And blood is pouring from both sides, this is a fact and both sides have great losses.

[Gennady Fomkin]

My humble opinion is that Azr..n sheds blood for a just cause. I am glad that Russians do not shed blood there, under duress, I cannot speak for convinced and frostbitten ones.

[Radapupin]

Shusha among Azerbaijanis.

[rotmistr60]

Rubina (Rubina)
1. We entered Shusha on the night from Friday to Saturday. On Saturday, they finally strengthened.

After that, with a clear conscience, sitting in a trench, I write another victorious report on VO? You can enter, but it happens that you cannot exit.

[tralflot1832]

The Azerbaijanis have already bypassed Shushi from the west and are trying to enter from the north, so the Armenian tanks with barrels in Shushi, the sky is blue, both sides work on the ground. So you don't understand at the moment who is where.

[Magadan]

damn, there is just something creepy

It is not clear where the Azeri reserves come from. In one hellish gorge, so many of them have already been laid but they are twig and twig
As I understand it, Aliev simply has nowhere to go. He will drive and drive cannon fodder there. Since the victory can only be registered by taking Shusha.
And without a victory, there is no way to explain to him such terrible losses.

[tralflot1832]

I saw "fresh" footage, but they were yesterday. The area of ​​the northern interchange. Indeed, the Azerbaijanis are a rod, although they are equal on both sides. Two days passed 2 km from west to northwest north. Yesterday they tried to enter Shushi from the north. What happened overnight and in the morning , there is no fresh from the frontline yet. Atitprop on both sides does not count.

[Albay]

Magadan, repeating the words Pegova with clever views, as if he himself saw the pruning and dying columns of Azerbaijanis)))))
Shusha is liberated from the Armenian fascists and you, the ill-wishers of Azerbaijan, will have to put up with it))

[Artavazdych]

But where do the reserves come from - the Azeris have an army of 200-250 thousand. The Karabakh people had at most 50, together with volunteers and the militia. Pashinyan never brought his corps from Armenia. Or cowardice or betrayal. And in the end, the Turks will still set foot in Armenia. And then to the North Caucasus.
Although all is not yet lost. Shusha fights to the death

[Angivin]

250 thousand? Armenian radio again?
And yes, it is not Shusha that is fighting, it is fighting for Shusha.

[Artavazdych]

100 plus 150 in reserve. In the public domain, as they say

[Angivin]

The reserve is even greater. But in Azerbaijan there was only partial mobilization, adding about 30-40 thousand to the 65 thousand available at that time.
Fear has big eyes.)

[Peter rybak]

The Federal News Agency reports that Azerbaijani troops have entered Shusha and the Lachin-Shusha highway is completely under their control.
https://riafan.ru/1332028-den-42-i-vs-azerbaidzhana-voshli-v-shushi-obstanovka-v-karabakhe-kriticheskaya?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[tralflot1832]

They saddled 4-5 km of the route going from Armenia as 3-4 days ago, so far there is nothing new. We are waiting for VK reports from both sides. And then check. But it’s as if the Armenians were sitting around and the weather was flying.

[Albay]

Tralflot we liberated Shusha !!

[tralflot1832]

On your part, they may have been released, rejoice. From the Armenian, while your information does not correspond to reality. I watched the footage from their side, they hold on. Even the barrel arteleria works, they are not even afraid of drones.

[Albay]

Traflot, they admit they won't go anywhere.
Yesterday's footage they showed another video near Stepanakert))
Our business is just, Victory will be ours!

[Vadim237]

Pegov is already at war in Stepanakert, which means that everything is with Shusha - "the Armenians have won" once again.

[Peter rybak]

Why minus me? I am citing information from those sources who zealously supported the Armenian side. Well, here's the opinion of Artsrun Hovhannisyan, minus for health:
https://avia.pro/news/azerbaydzhan-zastavil-armiyu-armenii-i-nkr-otstupit-ot-goroda-shushi?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[Albay]

Peter I plus you))
Shusha will be officially announced any minute!)

[Gennady Fomkin]

From Shushi to Stepanakert in a straight line less than ten kilometers. This means that Azerbaijanis are already in the vicinity of Stepanakert.

[Alexander Kopychev]

Looking at the footage of the ruins, I was interested in one seemingly simple thing. And whose architecture is it, whose traditions of organizing settlements, whose national and cultural roots can be seen here:

or here:

and here:

Well ka, "irreconcilable", explain who is cooler, more ancient, more handshake.

I, for example, will immediately distinguish a Russian hut from a Ukrainian hut, but what do you say about - Azerbaijani VS Armenian?

[Radapupin]

Azerbaijani

[Albay]

Alexander do not confuse us with the Armenians, we, unlike them, do not pretend to be ancient.
Understand, man, this is our Motherland and we liberate it. No sarcasm and teachings. I thought that I could convey our point of view to you last time.
Best regards

[Alexander Kopychev]

Hello Alibek (I answered the letter in PM).
I did not take the question of the antiquity of Azerbaijan from the ceiling. Here is your compatriot NTD answered me yesterday;

Quote: Alexander Kopychev
Then why Erdogan and not Hassan Rouhani?

The domination of Azerbaijanis over Persia which lasted for millennia, alas, ended after the last shahinshah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi 1979. But I hope that someday North and South Azerbaijan will unite. Justice must prevail.

Best regards

Please do not look for sarcasm and teachings in my words. I asked a simple question - who built it? If I knew myself, I would not ask, or I would focus on my knowledge. I perfectly understand and share your feelings and love for the Motherland, but I cannot dismiss the Armenian version as an annoying fly. Therefore I want to understand myself in origins ongoing events. The example of a Russian hut and a Ukrainian hut is also not sarcasm, but just an example and explanation of my position - I understand this, but I do not understand this at all, help me figure it out. I understand that you a priori see in me, as a Russian, an exclusively Armenian ally. You are deeply mistaken.
Health to you!
With respect!

[Albay]

Alexander, well, of course he turned it down. The Sephivid state on the territory of Persia was really Turkic, the Qajars were also a Turkic dynasty, Pahlavi are Persians.
I and many of my fellow tribesmen, even the overwhelming majority do not consider this to be something special. Yes, we are representatives of a huge people, we are Turks. In our history there are many victories and defeats, but we do not consider ourselves an exceptional people. At this time, we are liberating our country from the scammers. in the borders recognized by the whole world. We don’t need our own, too, we will not give it to anyone.
As for architecture, my fellow tribesmen lived on those territories, but for example, in Baku at the beginning of the 20th century, Baku millionaires invited Italians, Frenchmen, Poles to build houses. Come visit and show and tell everything.
I respect you and you know it
I wish you good health, a peaceful sky and good luck!

[Alexander Kopychev]

Thanks for the invitation. As you can see, I do not spit on this site, although many "opinions" are asking for it.

[Gennady Fomkin]

 

 Zoya Harutyunyan, like her brother M. Harutyunyan, is the closest associate of ex-President Serzh Sargsyan, who for 13 years held the post of Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Armenia, and then Minister of Defense, from the village of Saghiyan, Shemakhi region. She lived and still lives in Azerbaijan. The question is, can anyone imagine such a thing in Armenia?

[vladcub]

"information duels" and it is understandable: the Armenians need to play at least in something. If it doesn't work out on the battlefield, even in an information war.
The Azerbaijanis were constantly winning, and now they are stuck under the Shuba. What is left to do? Win the information war

[Gennady Fomkin]

You don't understand the essence of the problem. The Armenian diaspora is not interested in resolving the conflict; it is interested in an eternal conflict.

[Unemployed]

And on the neutral strip there are flowers of extraordinary beauty.

[tralflot1832]

Azerbaijan passes our Il76 aircraft without any problems! It's all strange.

[Gogia]

And he cannot help but miss them. For it will fly immediately - and they understand it. It is very bad that the two peoples failed to understand that a bad peace is worse than a good quarrel. Then, of course, Perdogan put his evil hand ...

[tralflot1832]

Here, some were very happy that Karabakh was separated from Iran, such as the Azerbaijan air defense zone.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

MY COMMENTS 2

the common thing is that revolutionaries always say a lot and do little, but otherwise there is little in common, Pashinyan was brought to power by the elite of the Armenian diaspora in the west, this is not an independent figure. Not a single leader of Armenia can agree to a peaceful solution to the issue, ideology does not allow, therefore, war is the best option for them, and surrender territories and shout about genocide with ethnic cleansing 

[Konnick]

Quote: Gogia

They forgot that only as part of two empires - the Russian and the USSR, they lived normally without a shit.

Gogi, genatsvale, you are partially right. Yes, they lived normally, but there were reproaches, especially from the Armenians, with their hurdy-gurdy about the massacre. Five generations have changed, and some have their wool on end, when in a conversation you say, yes, these guys are normal Turks. The Armenians completely lack the desire for peace with the Turks, as they are zombified from childhood.

[Castle]

⚡️⚡️Ilham Aliyev will address the nation from the Alley of Honor, according to sources @bulvarBaku.

[Castle]

The President, according to our sources, will announce in his appeal the liberation from the occupation of the city of Shushi.

[Castle]

⚡️Gostelekanal, in parallel with the running line about Aliyev's appeal to the nation, announces the liberation of Shushi

[Naughty]

If you listen to all this lies from one side and the other, the Battle of Stalingrad simply pales in comparison with this rebellious proud peoples. So who wins there? who has infa from Russian sources?

[MIG_2]

before the arrival of Armenians, people lived in these villages, but now all over Karabakh is desolate

[Caribbean duo]

Sometimes 40 days of war give more than 27 years of negotiations with the aggressor

[APASUS]

From the entire video, only in 3 houses it can be seen that the people lived, and everything else was destroyed, it is not clear when. It turns out that Karabakh was not populated, so there is no one to fight for it

[Peter rybak]

The Armenian side claims to inflict great damage to the enemy when trying to break through to the city of Shushi

To be honest, I did not find information about this in the article. Is that about the section Karin Tak - Shusha

[Homeland]

The Azerbaijani army liberated Shusha without tanks, any armored vehicles, UAVs, aircraft, practically with bare hands. I do not see any comments on the site, those who constantly praised the "valiant" Armenian soldiers. The Azerbaijani soldier showed his heroism on the battlefield. Glory to the Azerbaijani army!

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Magadan

Well, you probably see the front configuration as well, right?
and you have enough historical examples that the success of the first month and the initial seizure of territories often ends tragically for an invader.
We'll see.
If the Armenians grind enough Turks in the mountains near Shusha, and then gather forces for a counterattack in general, somewhere near Zangelan, then the kirdyk of the entire Turkish-Azeri campaign.

Armenians need DRGs. Lots of DRGs!

Go sick yourself, on the spot you will explain everything to the Armenians. I hope you catch your harop.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: KARAKURT777

You buddy won't stay afloat here. VO is a platform for Armenophiles. Here even iron arguments are minus, and Armenian fairy tales are plus. It is difficult to lead a discussion when the moderator is biased.

It is definitely noticed. A branch of a Soloviev club of some kind)) The editorial policy is as follows. In the past, among the authors there were honest, adequate people like S. Sovetkin, who wrote in a balanced and neutral manner. All sorts of nonsense: Partzakh, Berdzor, the NKR army, "the Armenians surrounded and defeated everyone" did not toil. Also, the man did not share his "deep regrets" about the failures and failures of the Armenians with the public.
They all left, they do not like it when they write the truth ... Surely, someone like Bagdasarov (Gabrielyanov) got around in the editorial office. Or financial interests are connected with the Armenians, everything can be. Even though the Armenians will burn all Russian flags in the world, they will hang banners everywhere: "Russia out of Armenia," they are like the dew of God. I probably like something like unrequited love, some kind of dostoyevshchina