It would be strange if Turkish intelligence in Karabakh was inactive: the statement of the head of the SVR is being discussed

The foreign press and networks comment on the statement of the head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin, that "the activity of Turkish intelligence is visible in Karabakh." Recall that Naryshkin, commenting on the ongoing conflict in the Transcaucasus, said literally the following:
We feel the work of Turkish intelligence.

This statement by the head of the SVR is actively circulated in the Armenian media. At the same time, the words of Sergei Naryshkin are positioned as proof that Turkey plays at least an important role in the military operation of Azerbaijan.

The Reuters news agency, covering the statements of Sergei Naryshkin, writes that Moscow hopes for an early ceasefire in Karabakh, unlike Ankara. It was noted that the Turkish authorities are disposed to ensure that the hostilities continue until the transition of Nagorno-Karabakh under the full control of Azerbaijan.

In the comments of experts and users of foreign media, it is noted that there is no sensation in the statement of the head of the SVR. A much greater sensation would be if someone announced the complete absence of Turkish intelligence work in Azerbaijan and specifically in Nagorno-Karabakh.

It would be strange if Turkish intelligence was inactive there.

This thesis can be developed by the way the Azerbaijani authorities reacted to the statements about the presence of F-16 fighters of the Turkish Air Force in the country.

At first, Ilham Aliyev denied these data, then he was forced to admit that Turkish combat aircraft were indeed present in the republic, adding that they were at the airfield as “fraternal help”. Remained after the exercises.

But if Turkey left its fighters in Azerbaijan, it is unlikely that it did not leave representatives of its intelligence agencies in the republic.

The very fact that the Turkish military command left fighters in Azerbaijan clearly indicates that they were preparing for a military operation in Baku, and Turkey was certainly well aware of this.

Comments

[icant007]

It is not clear why two articles about the same thing?

[DAQ]

Be people, let people from the Baku troll factory earn money.
Probably for a comment under the article they pay several times less than for the article.
Jokes are jokes, but as they say: in every joke, there is some joke.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Gentlemen and comrades! Sorry to be a little off topic, but just reported - M. Zhvanetsky died.
At 87 years of age.
Whatever I am accused of that this news does not apply to the site, I want to remind you that in addition to the fact that he was a humorist, writer, engineer, he was also a reserve officer of the USSR Navy, a diver, a specialist in lifting sunken ships.
In an interview, he said that their generation considered serving in the army an honorable duty of every man.
Earth rest in peace and eternal memory.
In his works, scripts and just human ...

[MA3UTA]

The last blockade veteran living in Chisinau left yesterday.
at 97 years of age!
wrote about him
https://mda.rs.gov.ru/ru/news/62603

Bazyakin Alexander Alexandrovich

Born 23.02.1923
Place of birth: Buryat-Mongolian ASSR, Pribaikalsky district
Art. Lieutenant Volkhov Front
Order of the Patriotic War II degree
Order of the Patriotic War I degree
Medal "For the victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945."
Medal "For the Defense of Leningrad"

He is not Zhvanetsky. Just a front-line soldier

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Sorry for being a little off topic, but just reported - M. Zhvanetsky died.

Today,"On November 6, the general director of JSC" NIIP named after VV Tikhomirov ", an honorary citizen of Zhukovsky, Yuri Bely, passed away ....

This is a great loss for the country and the city, as well as for the entire aviation science.
We offer our condolences to the family, relatives and friends of Yuri Ivanovich Bely, a wonderful person, a famous scientist and a real citizen. "
https://www.zhukvesti.ru/articles/detail/26258/
I join in condolences.
A generation of Soviet engineers and scientists is leaving.

[genisis]

How do you feel about metall music?

[icant007]

Half looked. Then I'm afraid to cry)
WILL NOT HELP

Music is so-so, ordinary trash, no melody, no lyrics.

I like Polad Bulbul oglu more

[genisis]

Completeness.
Did you want trash?
I have them))
Enjoy

[icant007]

Quote: genisis

Did you want trash?

You wanted to trash. Do not throw off a sore head on a healthy one.

[Oquzyurd]

Rot and anger haunted, right? You are losing, it is useless to remake clips and so on. Even here fake.

[Oquzyurd]

Not for you, don't bother ...

[Livonetc]

It's strange at first.
Then you get used to it.
Turkish aviation
Turkish special forces
Pro-Turkish militants.
Well, in this situation, Turkish intelligence is generally a rule of good form.

[credo]

Quote: Livonetc

It's strange at first.
Then you get used to it.
Turkish aviation
Turkish special forces
Pro-Turkish militants.
Well, in this situation, Turkish intelligence is generally a rule of good form.

I think that Turkish intelligence was the first to come to all the regions that Turkey considers interesting for itself, so this news is not unusual.

[Old tanker]

It would be more correct to say that she did not leave there. The Turkish intelligence service has always been active in the Transcaucasus. Including during the Soviet Union.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

How very interesting it turned out, first an article about what Shuvalov said, now an article with
right away, what did the western press say about Shuvalov's statement .. Could it have been originally one article? [b

] It would be strange if Turkish intelligence was idle there.

[/ b] ... Indeed ...

[Volodin]

Now it remains to find out what has to do with Shuvalov and which of them ... Field Marshal?

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Naryshkin, Naryshkin .. A crime ... of a century ... two must be put in the diary and in the corner at the same time

[Alena-Baku]

Naryshkin of the disgruntled security officials who have been shitting under Putin lately, from here and Peskov today we are talking that Putin's resignation is nonsense.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Volodin

Now it remains to find out what has to do with Shuvalov and which of them ... Field Marshal?

Volodin, a very subtle remark, as well as everything that you publish on this information site ... I only have a geopolitical insult accumulates. Do you understand ... in the zone of the former USSR, three kilometers from the Russian aorta --- an armored personnel carrier was driving into the mountains- --- 1 machine gun and 4 rifles and one more kid
moved on armor, in a backpack a computer-mouse, a photo of a baby, two BC for a laptop and the newest Fort Mayer. And then the swords exploded on the armored steel, two columns tried to go around the tight distance. The first fell a machine gunner and rifles after him, a young man was looking at the screen, predicting the Third Rome. And then they sent buckshot, in an ambush by fire. On a tip of a laptop, the guy with the computer This battle was stopped by rigid bursts, by the troops who arrived in time and everyone who was on the front line. But through the music of fanfare, with a sensitive ear, I hear the chime of the keyboard, the clicks of battle and fire.

[tralflot1832]

Azerbaijanis have two articles in a row on the same topic, this is for you!

[Yujanin]

Azerbaijanis have two articles in a row on the same topic, this is for you!

Try to fight, ahperiki! What if it works out ..

[Dimon71]

Well, it is clear that Turkish intelligence officers are not only in Baku, but are also located along the entire front line.

[askort154]

We feel the work of Turkish intelligence.

And even when a coup in Turkey was being prepared. When we saved Erdogan from the impending assassination attempt. Therefore, we know what we are talking about. And the "language" of the Foreign Ministry and the SVR is the same - to speak with "hints", knowing that to whom they are directed - they will hear!

[APASUS]

The very fact that the Turkish military command left fighters in Azerbaijan clearly indicates that they were preparing for a military operation in Baku, and Turkey was certainly well aware of this.

There seems to be not only Turkish intelligence, there is Turkish planning, management, supply and a bunch of carpet games. I think the appearance of Turkey's planes is not in vain, they calculated everything and even the moment of Baku's defeat, the planes had to play a decisive role.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: APASUS

There seems to be not only Turkish intelligence, there is Turkish planning, management, supply and a bunch of carpet games.

Not even discussed.
"Advisors" were and are at all levels. Including "field filling". No matter how hard the debaters from Azerbaijan try here, the combat earnings of both sides are the same, regardless of religion.
But the guys "from across the river" had a great, if not huge, combat Syrian-Libyan experience. Which was proved at the very beginning.

[atalef]

Quote: stalkerwalker

"Advisors" were and are at all levels. Including "field filling". No matter how hard the debaters from Azerbaijan try here, the combat earnings of both sides are the same, regardless of religion.
But the guys "from across the river" had a great, if not huge, combat Syrian-Libyan experience. Which was proved at the very beginning.

in general, even if the Turks help the Azerbaijani army - what's the problem?
how does it differ from Russian aid in Syria or Libya?
How is Wagner PMC in Syria different from mercenaries (if any) who seem to be fighting on the side of the Azerbaijani army?
Azerbaijan is a sovereign country and can involve both its allies and mercenaries in the conduct and planning of military operations.
Both in the first and in the second case - in order to achieve victory (using the experience of the Turks) and preserve the lives of their soldiers (involving mercenaries).
Absolutely legitimate.
About intelligence.
Naryshkin says. what do they feel - and how do they feel not being present in Karabakh?
those. Turkish intelligence in Karabakh is bad and wrong. and Russian - is it good and right?
Although it seems like these are the same eggs - only in profile.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: atalef

in general, even if the Turks help the Azerbaijani army - what's the problem?

The conflict has interethnic roots, which has grown into an interstate one. As the saying goes, "Two are fighting, there is no third place." Thus, Turkey "helps" Azerbaijan on a "voluntary basis", or a NATO member country takes part in hostilities on the territory of a country that did not threaten or provoke the NATO bloc. Or does the joint exercise of Russia and Belarus give a reason to "break through the Suwalki corridor"?
Sasha ... If you do not see the "problem", it does not mean that it does not exist. Since the use in hostilities of "proxy" forces from among the armed formations of ISIS, no matter how they call themselves, takes place on the territory of third countries with the participation of a country not taking part in the conflict.

Quote: atalef

Azerbaijan is a sovereign country and can involve both its allies and mercenaries in the conduct and planning of military operations

What military alliance have Azerbaijan and Turkey concluded?
Turkey supplies mercenaries to Azrebaydjan, just as it does in Syria and Libya.
Comparing barmaley with PMC Wagner, or Blackwater, is like trying to pull an owl onto a globe ...

Quote: atalef

Turkish intelligence in Karabakh is bad and wrong. and Russian - is it good and right?

Did I say it's bad?

Quote: atalef

Although it seems like these are the same eggs - only in profile

Maybe, looking from Israel, the profile is the same ...
When Biden is recognized as the president of the most democratic country, Iran will again be able to actively work with its proxies in Syria. Then we'll see how the profile differs from the full face ...,

[tihonmarine]

But if Turkey left its fighters in Azerbaijan, it is unlikely that it did not leave representatives of its intelligence agencies in the republic.

I also thought so, the Turks after the exercises forgot their planes at the airfields of Azerbaijan. Well, they can let the dust in your eyes.

[Turanov]

Here's the news ... There is not only intelligence, but also military formations disguised as Azerbaijanis, etc. Aliyev would not have risked invading Karabakh on his own .. Erdogan sang to him, but he supplied weapons with target indications ..

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Turanov

Here's the news ... There is not only intelligence, but also military formations disguised as Azerbaijanis, etc. Aliyev would not have risked invading Karabakh on his own .. Erdogan sang to him, but he supplied weapons with target indications ..

Have you personally seen the military formations of the Turks? Balabolism is based on Armenian stuffing and disinformation. Already 2 months have passed, and no evidence of the presence of mythical "Turkish" formations has been presented.
And whose military formations, aviation, etc. are openly operating in Syria? Or is there a neighboring country too? In the end, the war is taking place on the land of Azerbaijan, not Armenia. The territory of Azerbaijan is occupied, not Armenia. In Azerbaijan, 1 million refugees and for 30 years the problem of occupation of 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan has been diligently tried to slow down the "mediators".
Article 51 of the UN Charter on individual and, if necessary, COLLECTIVE self-defense has not been canceled, as is the case in Syria, with the involvement of the Armed Forces and the IRGC of Iran (several tens of thousands of people) Lebanon (Hezbollah), Iraq (Hashdi Shabi formations) ), finally Russia: VKS, specialists, PMCs, military police, etc., and even Palestinians (Liwa al Quds brigades) and Afghans (experienced Hazara formations: Fatimiyun and Zeynabiyun). Why then were they not worried that such an "international" gathered in Syria or Libya (PMCs and planes of "unknown origin")? Or is it "different"?

[Turanov]

Quote: Scorpio05

Have you personally seen the military formations of the Turks? Balabolism is based on Armenian stuffing and disinformation. Already 2 months have passed, and no evidence of the presence of mythical "Turkish" formations has been presented.

Just an analysis of boastful Azerbaijani videos, etc. Who supplies them Drona and, most importantly, targets from space reconnaissance satellites? The videos are the same from one very small and tricky country ..
You and I are clearly on opposite sides of the trenches .. Armenia naturally loses to information war, but this is all temporary.
And there are a lot of Turkish advisers in Azerbaijan, and they think and lead the whole process .. A familiar tactic, as in Kurdistan and Syria with Libya

[atalef]

Quote: Turanov

Just an analysis of boastful Azerbaijani videos, etc.

Well, actually, that is something to brag about.

Quote: Turanov

Who supplies them Drona and, most importantly, targets from space reconnaissance satellites?

who cares ? the main thing is the result.
Who supplied weapons to Armenians? and s-300 and armor and electronic warfare - and the result?

Quote: Turanov

We are clearly on opposite sides of the trenches. Armenia naturally loses to war

Of course - one photo or video is worth 10000 words - and Armenia has nothing to show

Quote: Turanov

And there are a lot of Turkish advisers in Azerbaijan, and they think and lead the whole process.

Engage advisors too, if you have someone to attract - what's the problem? You will come to an agreement so soon. that - like on garlic Aliyev and Pashinyan in an open field on swords should fight - and only then the real winner will be determined.

[vitvit123]

With the passage of time, it is now clear that Azerbaijan started all this. He was preparing. And then when at first both sides accuse each other, I always have a question, how did it really happen ...

[icant007]

Quote: vitvit123

now it is clear that Azerbaijan started it all

Nooo, everyone started the Armenians. When they appeared, there were no Azerbaijanis yet)

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: icant007

Quote: vitvit123
now it is clear that Azerbaijan started it all


Nooo, everyone started the Armenians. When they appeared, there were no Azerbaijanis yet)

Churchill invented all this in the 18th year ..

[Scorpio05]

Quote: vitvit123

With the passage of time, it is now clear that Azerbaijan started all this. He was preparing. And then when at first both sides accuse each other, I always have a question, how did it really happen ...

And what should have given half of the country to the Armenians? 30 years of negotiations is not enough? Are you some strange people, would you give it yourself?)

[vitvit123]

You thought of that, I didn't mean it at all. I did not urge you to give something to the Armenians. My words have a direct meaning. Most likely, Azerbaijan started, although it denied it. It turns out he was lying. That's all . I like it better when everything is fair, without meanness. And whoever takes the land for himself, it makes no difference to me so far. Although, after the antics of the Armenians, Azerbaijan is more to their liking ..

[no better place for]

Do not forget that before that there were the July events, when the Armenians fired on a UAZ car with soldiers. Then they killed the general

[vitvit123]

If the July events take place, then this does not change anything in September.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Turanov

Quote: Scorpio05

Have you personally seen the military formations of the Turks? Balabolism is based on Armenian stuffing and disinformation. Already 2 months have passed, and no evidence of the presence of mythical "Turkish" formations has been presented.

Just an analysis of boastful Azerbaijani videos, etc. Who supplies them Drona and, most importantly, targets from space reconnaissance satellites? The videos are the same from one very small and tricky country ..
You and I are clearly on opposite sides of the trenches .. Armenia naturally loses to information war, but this is all temporary.
And there are a lot of Turkish advisers in Azerbaijan, and they think and lead the whole process .. A familiar tactic, as in Kurdistan and Syria with Libya

I think and know, these are two different things. Secondly, Azerbaijan does not seize foreign territory, but liberates its own from the occupiers. How did Syria, Iraq, Kuwait (at the time of Saddam Hussein) and so on. With the involvement of almost half the world on its side. Everyone knows how the wars on the Sinai Peninsula between Israel and the Arab countries went. The number of advisors provided by the technique is known approximately. Are these limits only for Azerbaijan? Moreover, there is no such thing in Azerbaijan, now it is very difficult to hide something.
Third, these videos are simply statements of fact, not boasting. You don't show the performances or video clips with Baskov? What are you dissatisfied with? It is what it is. The people want to know where the money went and how the army is ready. The government shows how excellently and effectively the state finances were used.
And the country you have in mind has shown itself not at all small, but rather the opposite. The trick is from a lack of intelligence, and they proved the strength of their mind.

[Turanov]

Quote: Scorpio05

I think and know, these are two different things. Secondly, Azerbaijan does not seize foreign territory, but liberates its own from the occupiers.

And what if Russia starts doing this, liberating its lands? After all, we took all our obligations, back to the Russian Empire (paid off debts, etc.) Who was Azerbaijan in those days, and so on in those days? And the Russian Orthodox Church bought up virtually all of Jerusalem ... and so on.
These territories only during the Soviet era were divided by eye, unfortunately Then there were no such states .. Remind you of history or what?
We even took Tehran? And if not for the revolution, then your Istanbul and the Bosphorus would be the territory of Russia!
We don't remind you of this, do we? And you are trying to inflate wars on our borders because of some mountainous regions, etc.
Do not anger Russia and you will be happy! And then a lot of things you can remember and raise the archives .. No offense!

[Lesorub]

The foreign press and networks comment on the statement of the head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin, that "Turkish intelligence is visible in Karabakh"

As sad as it might sound - but the place is never empty - where one intelligence works poorly, another works well. It is surprising that why the Russian special services do not behave as aggressively in the past
in their territories of influence, not to mention conducting economic, political sabotage in Europe and the United States ?! Partners are not particularly shy - they are moving NATO to the east - regardless of the agreements - splitting off the former union republics - changing rulers - inciting these countries against Russia.

[Renator]

It is surprising that why the Russian special services do not behave as aggressively in the past
For 30 years they led aggressively, and the result of 0 for Azerbaijan was

[Lord of the Sith]

It's time to click on the nose of the Sultan and his barmaley, as in Syria. Unofficially, of course))
To know his place.

[no better place for]

Naryshkin announced mercenaries from Syria, without specifying on whose side. Then he said that he received this information from the intelligence of some Middle Eastern country. That is, he receives information about what is happening in front of him not from his agents, but from another country. This is either complete incompetence or a desire to shift the blame for your lies to unknown intelligence. In the meantime, Syrian passports are being found from the Armenian side. All the Armenian terrorists from the PKK are there, along with the Yezidis. Maybe when Lavrov and Naryshkin talk about mercenaries without specifying which side they are on, they mean Armenia? Well, the Armenians, since they can no longer hide it, call them volunteers.

[Babayka babaykin]

I wish Azerbaijan victory, so that it could win back its territories. Armenians say they captured an alien who fought for the Azerbaijanis and he had a battery-powered plastic machine gun with him.

[Angivin]

Quote: Turanov

Who supplies them Drona and, most importantly, targets from space reconnaissance satellites?

Drones are bought more from Israel, less from Turkey. They collect themselves too. Yes, and their companions have long been.

[Konnick]

Quote: Old Tanker

It would be more correct to say that she did not leave there. The Turkish intelligence service has always been active in the Transcaucasus. Including during the Soviet Union.

It's a pity, we have only one specialist working against Turkish intelligence ... Zhirinovsky. He knows more than Naryshkin, I'm serious.

[Konnick]

Quote: Turanov

Do not anger Russia and you will be happy! And then a lot of things you can remember and raise the archives .. No offense!

Do you have boots? Then some suggested washing them in the Indian Ocean, why waste little money.

[iouris]

The Russian Federation was formed around Cherkizones and town-forming vegetable stalls, where they sold Turkish products. Almost every active citizen has consumed the services of the Turkish tourist industry, as they say, from the belly (many even died in Turkey). It would be strange not to detect the activity of Turkish agents in the Russian Federation.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Turanov

Quote: Scorpio05

I think and know, these are two different things. Secondly, Azerbaijan does not seize foreign territory, but liberates its own from the occupiers.

And what if Russia starts doing this, liberating its lands? After all, we took all our obligations, back to the Russian Empire (paid off debts, etc.) Who was Azerbaijan in those days, and so on in those days? And the Russian Orthodox Church bought up virtually all of Jerusalem ... and so on.
These territories only during the Soviet era were divided by eye, unfortunately Then there were no such states .. Remind you of history or what?
We even took Tehran? And if not for the revolution, then your Istanbul and the Bosphorus would be the territory of Russia!
We don't remind you of this, do we? And you are trying to inflate wars on our borders because of some mountainous regions, etc.
Do not anger Russia and you will be happy! And then a lot of things you can remember and raise the archives .. No offense!

Are you pretending or are you fooling around? We are talking about the internationally recognized borders of Azerbaijan, where 1 million Azerbaijanis-refugees lived in these territories, and who were expelled from these territories, and some of them were brutally destroyed by the Armenians. It's not Tehran or Harbin for you to take, so Budapest, Vienna, Potsdam, Berlin, etc. also took) You are funny, by God ...