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Reverse reform: leading positions in military registration and enlistment offices will again become military

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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation decided to change the procedure for the formation of leading personnel in military commissariats. These institutions will again be headed by military personnel.


About this newspaper "News" sources in the Russian Defense Ministry said.

This system can hardly be called new, because a similar order existed in Russia until the end of the 2000s. The difference is that now the military department has decided to toughen the requirements for candidates for the posts of military commissars and other employees of military enlistment offices.

Now only an officer with an impeccable track record, with experience in real combat operations and serving in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, can become a military commissar. Servicemen with the rank of colonel will be appointed to the posts of military commissars. They must also have experience in passing all stages of a commanding career and commanding units of no less than a regiment or brigade.

Now the duties of the military commissar can be performed by civilians. In addition to their daily duties, in the event of large-scale hostilities, they are assigned the task of preparing for the mobilization of human and material resources in their subordinate territory.

The new procedure for the formation of personnel for military commissariats begins to operate next year.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 6 November 2020 11: 57
    +9
    Were the military commissars already civilians?
    What you don’t know ...
    1. nnm
      nnm 6 November 2020 11: 58
      19
      Yes. Like everyone else in the military registration and enlistment office. Even mobilists. Optimization from the furniture maker.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 6 November 2020 11: 59
        16
        Quote: nnm
        Yes. Like everyone else in the military registration and enlistment office. Even mobilists. Optimization from the furniture maker.

        Ah by the oak ...
        Oh, ate!
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 November 2020 14: 05
        +4
        Quote: nnm
        Optimization from the furniture maker.

        The business was done by the Doctor of Economics, but in reality "Corporal Taburetkin".
      3. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 6 November 2020 16: 14
        +3
        It is a pity that they did not write about the salary .. Is it really that the VK workers will have 9 tyrov? .. essentially civil.
    2. faiver
      faiver 6 November 2020 12: 00
      +5
      you missed a lot laughing
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 6 November 2020 12: 00
        +7
        Twelve years ago ... was removed from the register.
    3. svp67
      svp67 6 November 2020 12: 03
      14
      Quote: Victor_B
      And what, were the military commissars civilians?

      Yes, civilian personnel. Not only that, the Military Commissar is alone in the region, in the regions, or the departments of the military commissariat, or the military registration desks at the administrations.
      Now the duties of the military commissar can be performed by civilians.
      And nothing that many of them had generals, and the rest of the colonel's ranks, though in reserve.
      And honestly, I certainly understand what they want to hold in the Defense Ministry, but it's time to decide what type of army they lead, if it is still built on the principles of the USSR or an army that has already departed from those principles. You can't sit on two chairs.
      It's time to bring this system to a denominator too. To issue a conscript for military service in the military registration desks, at administrations, since the heads of administrations are the Chairmen of the Drafting Commissions, and leave the control role, recruitment under the contract and the organization of mobilization work for the recruiting office ...
      1. nnm
        nnm 6 November 2020 12: 08
        +5
        "military commissar" of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation is called only that way, in fact it has long been a civilian. If memory serves.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 6 November 2020 13: 50
          0
          Last month I was at the district military commissar-captain .. as I understood from the districts-captains, in the province there is a post like a colonel. They seem to be working .. they are coping with their duties now ..
      2. Gvardeetz77
        Gvardeetz77 6 November 2020 12: 29
        +4
        If you send a call to the military registration desks, then the registration of storerooms will also be there (based on the name), so mobrabotka can also be organized by mobrabotki administrations, especially since they are there many come from the military commissariat troops, they know how to recruit teams.
        What I mean is that it is not comme il faut to distribute accounting and acquisition, especially as it is now with electronic databases and information exchange ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 November 2020 12: 36
          +1
          Quote: Gvardeetz77
          If you send a call to the military registration desks, then the registration of storerooms will also be there (based on the name), so mobrabotka can also be organized by mobrabotki administrations, especially since they are there many come from the military commissariat troops, they know how to recruit teams.

          No, the mobile workers are otherwise employed there, and the heads of the VUS-V are often also former military men. And honestly, how the study is organized by the administrations, and it is not free, I like it better, everything is more or less clear there, in contrast to the military commissariats, although there is even its own academy in Smolensk, but the level of education, and most importantly, financial support is getting lower , below, below ...
        2. nnm
          nnm 6 November 2020 12: 40
          +4
          You don't think that recruiting teams is the most difficult thing?))) And on whom will the SRW remain? Judging by the new requirements, this issue is becoming one of the main ones. And the mobilization of technology? And what about the formation of echelons? A special command, too, to give to civilians, etc.? And you are right when you say that “natives of military commissariats” are pulling work now, but will we last long on this reserve?
          1. svp67
            svp67 6 November 2020 13: 37
            +2
            Quote: nnm
            And on whom will the SRW remain?

            On those who are obliged to carry it out - on the military. They have the strength and the means for this. Ukraine has shown that the old Soviet system of organizing SRW DOES NOT WORK in modern conditions.
            1. nnm
              nnm 6 November 2020 16: 12
              +1
              What other military men are without an extraterritorial principle? Do you think the units will stand in places of permanent deployment? What other Soviet system, if this function has been in the military registration and enlistment offices for about 10 years?
              1. svp67
                svp67 6 November 2020 16: 56
                +3
                Quote: nnm
                What other military men are without an extraterritorial principle?

                What are the military? Will the commandant's offices be organized? And not every district already has offices of military commissariats, far from every
                Quote: nnm
                Do you think the units will stand in places of permanent deployment?

                There are no combat ones, but those formed for carrying out SRW, so yes ... And they should be assigned to the commandant's offices, and not to the VC. Remove the extra link. Everyone should be subordinate to the commandant, local authorities, the police, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, road workers, the railway, and they should act according to a single plan approved by the military. And then everyone has their own plans and they contradict each other.
                Quote: nnm
                What other Soviet system, if this function has been in the military registration and enlistment offices for about 10 years?

                It has always existed, there have always been teams for the formation of subunits and units of territorial defense, remember the fighter battalions during the war. Another thing is that the names changed, but the meaning remained the same. And now it got even worse. Earlier there was some kind of discipline at the enterprises, but now the private trader is deeply "on the drum" of this your readiness, he works today, tomorrow is not, and you no longer have to rely on his resources, therefore all this should be centralized. The army has quite a lot of old equipment at storage bases and it should be designed for these formations.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 6 November 2020 18: 16
                  0
                  Stop doing some kind of idle talk! What commandant's offices have you seen in the districts? For so many years they have not existed in regional centers, etc.
                  Unlike GRVK, of which there are not so many united into several districts.
                  When you do not know how everything is now organized in the PM in matters of interaction with the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the police, etc., then it is better just do not write. I hinted to you about this from the very beginning when you talked about the "Soviet system".
                  And stop remembering what happened during the Second World War ... yes, there is experience, but it has long been lost and is not based on modern realities. And similarly about private traders - no one will ask private traders in a special period of consent.
                  I will simply not say anything about the intended old technique, etc. Colleague, you really do not have the slightest idea about the organization of TPO at the present time, so just leave this topic.
                  I will say this - yes, through the tree stump, but ten years ago this issue has been moving in the right direction. Serdyukov, however, crossed out 5 years, but the question is moving.
                  And sorry for the harshness in the post. True, not intentionally.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 6 November 2020 18: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: nnm
                    When you don't know how everything is now organized in the PM in matters of interaction with the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the police, etc., then you better just do not write

                    And if I tell you that in recent years, before the demobilization, I was just one of such representatives in local government bodies, I had just a couple of districts subordinated to, a quarter of France in area. So, everything I'm saying now is BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
                    Quote: nnm
                    And similarly about private traders - no one will ask the consent of private traders during a special period.

                    Yeah, will you find that technique? For a private trader, everything changes very quickly and what happened yesterday is no longer today ... and he was "ashamed" to submit information. Or she is, but works for the "distant lands" ... from where she can not wait
                    Quote: nnm
                    I will simply not say anything about the intended old technique, etc.
                    And in vain, I would like to hear, where you, if not in "TP", will also receive weapons for the SRW unit ... and nothing prevents you from getting equipment there, especially since you don't need much of it. And the fact that it is on the bases is an indisputable fact ...
                    In terms of mobilization and all activities related to it, I had one very good "friend", he wrote entire dissertations and textbooks on it, taught a lot. So, I understand these issues both theoretically and practically, I worked out some questions.
                    1. nnm
                      nnm 6 November 2020 18: 43
                      0
                      I don’t know what year it was and what forces and means you formed (weren’t attached) when the TRW plan was put into effect, but from what you wrote, I see that you had nothing to do with modern plans.
                      Unfortunately, I cannot write more, because up to the present time this question is greeted. But from the presence of combat experience, the experience of commanding a regiment, a brigade mentioned in the article, it is obvious that it is precisely three that become one of the main tasks of local military command and control bodies.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 6 November 2020 18: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: nnm
                        that it is precisely three that becomes one of the main tasks of the local military administration.

                        And no one ever filmed it, one thing is bad, that since it is organized and precisely according to the Soviet model, it is not viable. The reserve must be professional and people must be trained, for which they must undergo training at least once every three months. And what we have now ... And unfortunately there is a lot of talk about change, there are almost no cases, there is no money.
                        And the fact that I am now in reserve does not mean that I am not in the know.
                        Previously there was a special department dealing with this in the East Kazakhstan region, officers with good staff and operational training, and now .... Byada
      3. Old tanker
        Old tanker 6 November 2020 12: 33
        +8
        I absolutely support it! Almost all of the male personnel of the military registration and enlistment offices are military pensioners. And they do their job no worse, if not better, than those in uniform once did. The same situation is with the military commissars. Well, to be honest, in the military registration and enlistment office - this is not a service. Always in the military registration and enlistment offices, it was considered a resort in comparison with the troops. And by hook or by crook those who wanted peace and tired of the troops aspired to this "apiary". And something I have not heard that the civilian military commissars do not cope with the duties assigned to them.
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 6 November 2020 19: 01
          +4
          Quote: Old Tankman
          Always in the military registration and enlistment offices, it was considered a resort in comparison with the troops. And by hook or by crook those who wanted peace and tired of the troops aspired to this "apiary".

          He comes to work (service) in the morning as a military commissar, looks at the building of the military registration and enlistment office and I wake up with tears, I wrote up a pack of paper in all the higher stations, in summer fungus, frost in winter, and things are still there.
          The building of the military registration and enlistment office of the Oktyabrsky district of Penza.
          1. Laksamana besar
            Laksamana besar 7 November 2020 12: 15
            0

            ...............................
            1. Anatole Klim
              Anatole Klim 7 November 2020 12: 45
              0
              Thank you for your attention, I was in that building 2 years ago, now I have searched the Internet and found out that that old building serves the Oktyabrsky district, but the new building serves the Zheleznodorozhny district, but they have the same name - the military commissariat for Oktyabrsky and Zheleznodorozhny district of Penza. On Monday at work I ask around my colleagues, maybe the old building was closed hi
      4. nnm
        nnm 6 November 2020 12: 46
        -1
        You are missing a lot of the duties of military enlistment offices and, in the first place, TPO
    4. Dimy4
      Dimy4 6 November 2020 12: 08
      +3
      Were the military commissars already civilians?

      There was a fact when the girl was about 30 years old there. The truth is not long. But pretty!
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 6 November 2020 12: 15
        +3
        Quote: Dimy4
        There was a fact when the girl was about 30 years old there. The truth is not long. But pretty!

        Serdyukov loved women!
        Many of them came to the ranks ...
        1. Old tanker
          Old tanker 6 November 2020 12: 34
          11
          And now, under Shoigu, it is not enough. Only Serdyukov did not cling to big stars on them, unlike Shoigu. In civilian fashion, he preferred to dress.
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 6 November 2020 17: 24
            +1
            Quote: Old Tanker
            And now, under Shoigu, it is not enough. Only Serdyukov did not cling to big stars on them, unlike Shoigu. In civilian fashion, he preferred to dress.


            Here is a pervert.
    5. Proxima
      Proxima 6 November 2020 13: 09
      +2
      Quote: Victor_B
      Were the military commissars already civilians?
      What you don’t know ...

      So it all started from Serdyukov. Where you can shove civilian personnel, he shoved. This concerned, for example, military builders. Serdyukov's blue dream is when a cleaning lady will scrub the floors in a military unit in the barracks, in the kitchen (galley) a cook (cook) without shoulder straps. And the soldier, instead of cleaning and keeping an eye on the weapon, will hand it over to service for maintenance and repair. belay
    6. Pereira
      Pereira 6 November 2020 13: 21
      +6
      I'm interested in something else.
      When this optimization was carried out, the initiator clearly received a prize. For the idea and for the implementation. Or maybe the whole team got it. Will they return the premium?
      Will the person who approved the optimization be asked for compensation for losses?
    7. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 6 November 2020 15: 31
      +2
      Everything is as usual, the title of the position has changed, and the body remains the penis.
    8. Turanov
      Turanov 6 November 2020 16: 16
      -2
      Quote: Victor_B
      Were the military commissars already civilians?
      What you don’t know ...

      I myself was surprised and shocked .. Probably still Serdyukovskaya reform Ugh damn it. In schools it is necessary to return military instructors-retirees as in the USSR! That would be the case, otherwise the youth are generally mortified, they are bullied by the teachers
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  2. faiver
    faiver 6 November 2020 12: 02
    +5
    And here's another to collect from those reformers who transferred military commissars to civilian life all the costs of the past reform and the current
    Or a lot of extra colonels appeared in the Ministry of Defense and found an option where to put them?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 6 November 2020 12: 23
      12
      Quote: faiver
      And here's another to collect from those reformers who transferred military commissars to civilian life all the costs of the past reform and the current

      Better from the present, which are stubbornly trying to return the army to pre-reform times. When out of a million servicemen, three hundred thousand were officers, but at the same time in the "field" divisions of even court divisions, the commanders were "pidazhki" and Vrida sergeants. But headquarters, military registration and enlistment offices and other "non-field" structures were always fully staffed with regular officers - even in those positions where the rank was optional.
      1. nnm
        nnm 6 November 2020 12: 31
        +2
        I do not remember officers in military registration and enlistment offices with seniority in combat units for less than 10 years. A pair of jackets at most, and even those in the automation department.
        1. your1970
          your1970 6 November 2020 14: 17
          +2
          Quote: nnm
          I do not remember officers in military registration and enlistment offices with seniority in combat units for less than 10 years. A pair of jackets at most, and even those in the automation department.
          - military commissars of two districts - jackets from scratch (came from institutes) and until retirement, one -3 years in the army,
          10 years in the unas troops there are none
      2. times
        times 6 November 2020 12: 39
        23
        Quote: Alexey RA
        But headquarters, military registration and enlistment offices and other "non-field" structures were always fully staffed with regular officers - even in those positions where the rank was optional.

        Yes, fish always rots from the head. By the way, I am familiar with such a distribution by industrial enterprises. There was a case: the accounting department and half of the plant management sat "on harmfulness" according to the first grid, although they did not even appear in the shops.
        1. nnm
          nnm 6 November 2020 12: 49
          +2
          For military registration and enlistment offices, this is not quite a true analogy. The conditions of service are definitely lighter, but the tariff categories are also much lower than in combat units. I can lie, but not much. The commissar of the subject (comm. Div), in some military registration and enlistment offices, had only 21 tare.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 6 November 2020 14: 08
            +5
            And why are the military in the military registration and enlistment office, except for the military commissar himself? accounting documentation - need shoulder straps? Now in our military registration and enlistment office, in the department for the registration of officers, there are women who do everything, instead of the lieutenant colonel, the captain and the women who did everything, nothing fell apart, the lieutenant colonel and the captain were removed, and the women both pulled the work and are pulling .. Chief?
            1. nnm
              nnm 6 November 2020 16: 10
              +1
              Blame TPO on women too? You are very wrong, believing that the entire function of the military registration and enlistment office is to record
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 7 November 2020 07: 20
                +1
                and, if necessary, call in senior officers from the reserve and you will organize TRO in practice, the reserve for that is inherently needed ... and sometimes classes can be conducted with them so that they are "in the subject" ..
                but in order to draw up plans for TRW lying in the safe for years and keep records, a constant bunch of "people in uniform" counting on "suddenly a war", but in fact they do not need to do anything .. for current needs and one military commissar of an officer for the military registration and enlistment office is enough ..
                and a military officer who served all his life in the troops, from the reserve, and not his pants was sitting (you will not argue that the military registration and enlistment offices are mainly engaged in this) - it seems to me that the organization of the TRO will bring more benefit than by pulling to get a job in a warm place. ...
                In addition, as an example, an acquaintance of mine was in the military registration and enlistment office, he served for three years and in the military registration and enlistment office as a captain, while counting the l / s and did not see, I meet a major in three years ... will he command a regiment / battalion or organize something? yes he l / s stupidly will not pull, there is no experience .. you can entrust the platoon maximum to him ..
                I no longer thought that I would defend the "Serdyukov" deeds, but here he was right ..
  3. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 6 November 2020 12: 12
    +6
    Is it possible to clarify whether we are talking only about the military commissariats of the subjects of the federation, or about the military commissars of a lower level too?
    1. icant007
      icant007 6 November 2020 12: 16
      +6
      Quote: Sergej1972
      Is it possible to clarify whether we are talking only about the military commissariats of the subjects of the federation, or about the military commissars of a lower level too?



      Yes, otherwise where so many colonels from the post of regiment commander will find.
    2. Gvardeetz77
      Gvardeetz77 6 November 2020 12: 16
      +3
      Quote: Sergej1972
      Is it possible to clarify whether we are talking only about the military commissariats of the subjects of the federation, or about the military commissars of a lower level too?

      Judging by the text only about the military commissariat of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation, and in the municipalities only departments of the military commissariat of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation remained, i.e. not the military commissariats themselves.
    3. nnm
      nnm 6 November 2020 12: 33
      +2
      God bless these military commissars, I'm more interested in why the 1,2,3, 4, 8 departments and the communications center are not staffed again by the military. In my opinion, it is in these departments that professional military personnel are needed
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 November 2020 12: 23
    +3
    These institutions will again be headed by military personnel
    Oh, those past optimization experiments. It turns out that everything is "new" and well-functioning, this forgotten (an attempt to forget) the old.
  5. ccsr
    ccsr 6 November 2020 12: 25
    +7
    These institutions will again be headed by military personnel.

    Well, finally, maybe they will put things in order in the military registration and enlistment offices, otherwise, to be honest, in general, there has become a structure at the level of a bad collective farm. I know this because I saw all the stages of the reform of this structure, and what is happening there now is puzzling, although there are some of the heads of departments (divisions) retired. Moreover, it seems to me that the bureaucracy has become even greater than it was in the pre-reform period, when the current officers headed this structure. I had to deal with the military commissariat employees in connection with the son of a student and obtaining various certificates, and I will say that now it has become much more difficult to do, even for those who themselves have given more than a dozen years to the service and know the army order.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 6 November 2020 14: 10
      +6
      the bureaucracy there has not multiplied because of civilians .. it has multiplied in the army in general .. you understand that the governing documents are not invented by the military enlistment office staff, and even with shoulder straps - you still have to fulfill them ..
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 6 November 2020 18: 41
        +2
        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
        bureaucracy there not because of civilians proliferated .. it generally proliferated in the army ..

        It’s not even a matter of bureaucracy, but the fact that civilians are afraid to take responsibility and make a decision. I learned this on my own when I came to the military registration and enlistment office for a certificate that I receive a pension at the place of demand - for students whose parents are pensioners who provide financial assistance, but require a certificate of parental pension. In general, the circus was still the same, they kicked me in different offices, saying that they could not give such a certificate until I myself went to the deputy commissar and said that I don’t care all your uniforms, make at least a scan of my pension and certify the military commissar’s seal and for other bureaucrats it will work. So he was in a stupor when he saw my pension under a million rubles in my pension certificate, because he had no idea that such pensions in the nineties were due to inflation. In general, those who served in the army do not laugh in the circus - I have long believed this, which is why I think that this circus should be headed by the military, they at least decide not to be afraid.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 7 November 2020 07: 27
          -1
          I also went to the military enlistment office - about the same thing .. until I decided through friends .. I agree about the circus .. but the military enlistment office is not a circus, but rather a parody of a circus laughing
          I remember that a 3rd year cadet received a summons to the army .. and if my parents moved to a different address and did not receive them, would they write me down? the order was, even that ..
  6. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 6 November 2020 12: 42
    +4
    and before that they were like? !!!!! belay
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 6 November 2020 12: 55
    +3
    I was amazed in the military enlistment offices of the Soviet era that the most beautiful girls in the city worked in clerical positions! Hunting for future generals? wassat
  8. certero
    certero 6 November 2020 12: 57
    +3
    Where will so many officers with combat experience find?
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 6 November 2020 14: 45
      +3
      Quote: certero
      Where will so many officers with combat experience find?

      And even the brigade commanders! laughing
  9. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 6 November 2020 13: 13
    +7
    We have them all military now, though former. This is not the problem of military enlistment offices. Poor funding, low salaries. Poor office equipment. Low qualifications of employees, at all levels. Lack of electronic document management (there are still wooden boxes with cards and aunties carry pieces of paper from floor to floor). Lack of real leverage in working with conscripts and conscripts. etc. The system practically does not work.
    Try to call for fees, especially a working citizen. He simply sends the military registration and enlistment office further and no one can do anything to him.
    1. your1970
      your1970 6 November 2020 14: 21
      +4
      I will say more, a literate citizen if he does not live at the registration address is now almost elusive at all. Especially if he is not the owner of the home and he has no transport - godfather, matchmaker and other relative owners
  10. ZVS
    ZVS 6 November 2020 13: 18
    +4
    How tired it is! 20 years of Putin's rule is twenty years of continuous reform. and these reforms in Putin's leaders already. This happens when there is no clear understanding of what they want to get. But great people, no match for Putin, said that there is no worse time than a time of change.
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  12. Alien From
    Alien From 6 November 2020 13: 46
    +1
    It's high time to put things in order!
  13. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 6 November 2020 14: 35
    +6
    In the military registration and enlistment offices, it is necessary to appoint servicemen who were injured in military service, primarily in the course of hostilities, in order to participate three served in the army, the rest through the recruiting office
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 6 November 2020 18: 30
      +2
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      In the military registration and enlistment offices, it is necessary to appoint servicemen who have been injured in military service, primarily during the course of hostilities,

      I agree that such people should be primarily assigned to such work. Moreover, in my time, they were sent to the military registration and enlistment offices for family reasons - to care for disabled relatives, if the officer was the only one of the family. And officers with a large number of children in the family need to be presented with such an opportunity - this will remove a number of problems not only for them, but also for their commanders in remote units.
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 6 November 2020 15: 53
    +1
    Again, regular optimizations. A decent number of servicemen are being dismissed from the army for various reasons, why can't they serve in military registration and enlistment offices, for example?
  15. Mmm.
    Mmm. 6 November 2020 19: 35
    +1
    Proven tactics run like clockwork. First, build and organize everything at a cost and with incredible efforts, then screw it up out of the blue, and then again for the fifth time to restore gold and diamonds, hurray!
  16. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 6 November 2020 19: 37
    -1
    A couple of CWPs in schools, colleges, and universities are introduced with former military personnel ...
  17. Simon
    Simon 6 November 2020 19: 39
    +1
    I agree that a high-ranking serviceman should select conscripts for the army.
  18. Simon
    Simon 6 November 2020 19: 47
    +1
    Quote: Victor_B
    Were the military commissars already civilians?
    What you don’t know ...

    Yes they were. Since the time of the Yeltsin era, liberalism has been called.
  19. faterdom
    faterdom 6 November 2020 20: 40
    +1
    I hope that instead of the mantra "reforms cannot be stopped!" more and more often we will hear the bashful term "reverse reform".
    What is translated into Russian means: "screwed up - it's time and honor to know!"
    Only here are the personalities ...
    Does anyone honestly, in all honesty, think that if Serdyukov is once again given a chance to run the Ministry of Defense, it will be better?
    Or that Golikova will suddenly start tossing and turning from side to side at night, thinking about pensioners and hospitals?
    No, guys-democrats, we have made conclusions - if you don't start "voting by mail" right now - nothing will shine for you!
  20. Kapkan
    Kapkan 7 November 2020 11: 56
    0
    At last...
  21. Voyen.com
    Voyen.com 7 November 2020 14: 09
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    Military commissars of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, their deputies and two heads of each department (conscription and mobilization) have become military since last year (more than 300 military posts in 83 constituent entities). Currently, work is underway to select and appoint candidates for these positions. However, there are almost no candidates with experience in the RF Armed Forces.
    Starting next year, it is planned to appoint acting generals to some positions of military commissars of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, while maintaining tariff levels - https://www.voenkoma.net/minoborony-rf-planiruet-naznachat-generalov-na-dolzhnosti-voenkomov/
    In principle, all the news "military commissariat troops" on the same site.
  22. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 7 November 2020 15: 59
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    And before, who was in charge? ...
    Forgive my ignorance.