Armenian Foreign Ministry announced "permanent contact" with EU on the issue of possible recognition of Artsakh

The Foreign Ministry of Armenia is in constant contact with European partners, resolving issues of self-determination of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh and the possible recognition by the EU countries of the Republic of Artsakh (the Armenian name of Nagorno-Karabakh). The parties are also discussing many other pressing problems.

Deputy Foreign Minister of Armenia Avet Adonts stated this at a joint meeting of parliamentary commissions on financial-credit, budgetary and European integration issues, dedicated to discussing the budget of the republic for 2021.

The deputy minister claims that such contacts are maintained on a daily basis. In addition to the issues of self-determination and independence of the people of Artsakh, the possibility of imposing sanctions against Azerbaijan and the provision of humanitarian aid to displaced persons from Nagorno-Karabakh is being discussed with European colleagues.

Adonts said that some cities and regions of Europe have already recognized Artsakh. According to some reports, we are talking about the Italian region of Lombardy. This can be considered the recognition of the independence of this republic at the local government level. The Deputy Minister considers this to be important steps that gradually bring the EU countries to the recognition of Nagorno-Karabakh at the state level.

Earlier, on November 3, the Switzerland-Armenia parliamentary friendship group sent letters to the two chambers of the Swiss parliament with a proposal to recognize the independence of Artsakh. The letter says that this should be done to ensure the safety of the inhabitants of the unrecognized republic. The parliamentarians cited Kosovo as an example of such a decision.

Despite the fact that Armenian officials of the highest rank are persistently seeking recognition by other countries of the NKR independence, Yerevan itself has not yet recognized it.

Comments

[Yujanin]

Sama-sama-sama! (from)

[Livonetc]

Well, she didn't.
Well, she didn't.
They're stubborn.
By the way.
Everyone understands what the NKR is.
But Ar - ah is voiced.
Is this the official name of the corresponding state entity?

[credo]

Quote: Livonetc

Well, she didn't.
Well, she didn't.
They're stubborn.
By the way.
Everyone understands what the NKR is.
But Ar - ah is voiced.
Is this the official name of the corresponding state entity?

By the way, today FAN posted a very good article detailing the situation on the map now and 39 days ago. Judging by the map, while the Armenians are looking for someone who will recognize Karabakh first, Karabakh itself will be fully occupied by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces.
The strange position of Armenia itself causes surprise and misunderstanding. Maybe they have an ingenious plan for Karabakh, but apparently it's hard for non-Armenians to understand.

[Clear]

Quote: credo

The strange position of Armenia itself causes surprise and misunderstanding.

Have this

Quote: credo

Armenia itself

there are positions, surnames, name and patronymic

[vVvAD]

FAN is full of news on this topic.
Share the link or title of the article in question, please.

[Professor]

Quote: Livonetc

By the way.
Everyone understands what the NKR is.
But Ar - ah is voiced.
Is this the official name of the corresponding state entity?

By the way, in 1988, when the Armenians shouted "Karabakh-our" at the demonstrations, the word "Artsakh" was not used by them. I wonder when they changed their minds?

[hydrox]

They are erratic and inconsistent, so understanding their logic is the same as reading Maya letters.
While loading the EU with their problems today, they do not understand that Kosovo (as a precedent) has long been sitting in the livers of Europeans with its organ trade, slavery, drugs ... and it is very doubtful that Europe will do something in Asia, knowing that this is not her competence and not her underbelly ...

[Clear]

Quote: professor

I wonder when they changed their minds?

When Pashinyan and Co. closed Russian schools

[Professor]

Quote: Clear

Quote: professor

I wonder when they changed their minds?

When Pashinyan and Co. closed Russian schools

Russian schools closed 30 years ago. It's just that there are no Russians there. There were 4 schools in Leninakan with instruction in Russian, today in Gyumri there is only one left for the children of the military from the 102nd base.
So the Armenians should not be blamed for this.

[Clear]

Quote: professor

So the Armenians should not be blamed for this.

As you say, professor
For the current situation in Armenia I will blame ... the aborigines from Papua New Guinea

Here they are, villains

[Alex Justice]

By the way, they are normal people, but for some reason they do not like each other and constantly fight.
Local policemen constantly came to us to eat on a ball :)

[Lara Croft]

Quote: professor

today in Gyumri there is only one left for the children of the military from the 102nd base.
So in this Armenians are not to blame.

And who is it worth? If they exist in Azerbaijan ...

[Avior]

An unusual phenomenon for the USSR was observed in the Armenian SSR - the number of Russians in the republic decreased.
According to the 1939 census, the share of Russians was 4 percent, in 1989 - 1,6 percent.
Now it's 0.4 percent.
In Soviet times, the number of Russians reached 70 thousand people.
Now there are 12 thousand, mostly old people.
There were so many Russians in Armenia in the 19th century.
No wonder there are no schools.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Clear

When Pashinyan and Co. closed Russian schools

And it would be surprising if it had not been closed. Do you all think that Armenians (and others) have such a love for Russians, friendship, brotherhood, connection in religion, culture, and everyday life? Of course this never happened and never will. Do you think they voluntarily became part of the Russian Empire? Of course not. This fear for their lives, the fear of extermination made them join Russia. A strong state fulfilled its tasks of maintaining order, security and economy in national formations, and therefore everything seemed that we were brothers. But since 1915, when the Empire weakened, everything was immediately forgotten, and local nationalism came to the fore. Everyone knows what happened then. And then, with the collapse of the Union, everything is one to one. And what do we want from the Armenians and from other small limitrophes and republics? And no matter what they say smart, but small national entities cannot live separately, freely, independently - they always need to stick to a stronger neighbor (not overseas transcendental). And Lenin's big mistake, who created the Union according to national criteria, with the slightest weakening of the union, immediately led to disintegration, regardless of other circumstances. Here in the states there is no division according to national apartments, because they simply do not exist, but there are states (regions, etc.). It's harder to break them down, there should be other criteria.
The alignment in my opinion is short and accurate.

[Jager]

In the United States, there is no glorious centuries-old tradition of slaughtering a neighboring state at any opportunity.
But there may be even more problems with nationalism, they just have a slightly different look.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Jager

But there may be even more problems with nationalism, they just have a slightly different look.

Nationalism is always the same kind, but the difference in nationalism is most visible in small ethno-tribal formations, it is mainly territorial (everyone will not divide the territory). And in the states there is no such thing, the remnants of the local population live on reservations, and all the rest are "imported" (imported).

[Alex Justice]

The communists replaced the provinces with republics and this is the result. The Russian Empire no longer exists.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex Justice

The communists replaced the provinces with republics and this is the result. The Russian Empire no longer exists.

You write correctly. There should be only one flag in the state - the flag of the Russian Empire, but there should not be any other flag of a tribe or ethnic group. Whatever you say, but in the United States in this sense it was better thought out, back in the 19th century.

[Jager]

Again the communists are to blame. Now what? Hey! Scoop 30 years ago, what have these under-republicans been doing all these years? Anything, just did not solve the main issues.

[icant007]

It was - it was. Even on our school desks in Baku, someone scribbled. But there was more "Karabakh - bizimdir")

[Oquzyurd]

They changed the names of towns and villages along the way. For example, Fuzuli was also called with a strange name on ... It sounds very nice in Azerbaijani. So he said: well, why Pashinyan, changed the name of Fizuli? So that this name hits your head (literal) 0.24 sec.

[halpat]

Turkey, for example, has been with European structures for 50 years, solving issues of joining the EU.
Therefore, apart from a grin, this epoch-making news of constant contact ... causes nothing.
Balabols are worthless.

[Clear]

Quote: Halpat

Therefore, apart from a grin, this epoch-making news of constant contact ... causes nothing.

Still annoying

[ZEMCH]

Despite the fact that Armenian officials of the highest rank are persistently seeking recognition by other countries of the NKR independence, Yerevan itself has not yet recognized it.

And this is the key point)))

[NTD]

Quote: ZEMCH

And this is the key point)))

And he doesn't. For this is a declaration of war on Azerbaijan. And you will have to answer for the market.

[paul3390]

Oh, how scary! Well, yes - the only thing that keeps everyone from recognizing Karabakh is, of course, the anger of Azerbaijan ..

[Azimuth]

There is a problem for Armenia. There is a nuance, as they say, if Armenia recognizes the independence of Karabakh, then, taking into account the law and resolutions, this is aggression against Azerbaijan, which is all it needs. When the aggression is carried out by Armenia itself, the mechanisms of the CSTO and our bilateral agreements do not work.
If a favorable political situation develops and we again, for various reasons, close our eyes and give the green light, then Azerbaijan will not fail to take the opportunity to seize Syunik / Zangezur. Moreover, Azerbaijan will deploy, roll and pull up its army in battles before that. Armenia, having suffered defeat and having lost the most efficient and equipped units of its army in Karabakh, will be simply defenseless in this case.

[Otshelnik]

Logically ...

[Trojan_wolf]

Nobody recognizes.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Armenia has not yet recognized the independence of Karabakh, well, nothing has been expected for 26 years, wait a couple more weeks, there will be nothing to recognize.

[Vadim237]

Because they are rare brakes.

[times]

Quote: Vadim237

Because rare brakes

Because they decided that and so it will do... They miscalculated.

[Oquzyurd]

Ours liberated today Khojavend (Martuni), Shushakend, I, entered Shusha from the north-west) There is a video of raising the flag over Shushakend in the internet. There will be a lot of news tomorrow.

[cniza]

Armenian Foreign Ministry announced "permanent contact" with EU on the issue of possible recognition of Artsakh

Found someone to hope for ...

[NTD]

Quote: cniza

Found someone to hope for ...

Well, yes) Marseille alone will not solve the problem.

[Turanov]

Quote: cniza

Armenian Foreign Ministry announced "permanent contact" with EU on the issue of possible recognition of Artsakh

Found someone to hope for ...

Well, how can I say Victor .. The lobby of Armenians all over the world is very powerful, if they were able to officially push through the "Armenian genocide" in the UN ..
Turkey was screaming with indignation .. If NGOs are officially recognized, another conversation will begin. Stop the main bloodshed, Russia needs it like no one now.

[cniza]

Vitaly, and yourself, what is weak? ...

[Turanov]

Quote: cniza

Vitaly, and yourself, what is weak? ...

Well, they don't have Marshal Baghramyan yet, maybe somewhere in Russia waiting in the wings ..

[cniza]

Why don't they recognize the NKR? , Baghramyan is not needed for this ...

[times]

Quote: cniza

Why don't the NKR themselves be recognized?

They want to shift the responsibility to others.

[Clear]

Quote: mal

Quote: cniza

Why don't the NKR themselves be recognized?

They want to shift the responsibility to others.

And, as always, the safest thing for everyone is to shift the responsibility onto a peace-loving, patient, non-conflict ... Russia

[Turanov]

Quote: cniza

Why don't they recognize the NKR? , Baghramyan is not needed for this ...

"Semibankirshchina" you can see a nest there Victor, there is no other explanation ...
As it was with us, to whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear in enrichment .. "

[hydrox]

Russia is not interested in this boil and let it be opened by someone else: they still cannot do without our military base, strangle Nikolay - a lot of work is not needed and there will be a lot of people willing, the magpies are worse than they are, they will not do it anymore, build up Armenia - let the 40 million diaspora think about it - therefore let it flow as it is ...

[Turanov]

Quote: hydrox

Russia is not interested in this boil and let it be opened by someone else ::

Here you are wrong .. Armenia is a historical ally of Russia, it was and will be! No matter how the political situation changes ..

Quote: hydrox

to build up Armenia - let the 40 million diaspora think about it - therefore, let it flow as it is ...

Well, here you are right, many "brothers" have become too cunning .. Let's wait to watch and prepare for any development of events!
And so for your information ..

[hydrox]

It was a brotherhood not in arms, but an alliance in resistance - for the Nazis everything was the same: Armenians, Jews, Gypsies, Slavs (as for the whole circle of countries around Poland), so yes, we were allies, but we were not like-minded people - specifically about This is evidenced by the 40 million Armenian diaspora in the world.
And yes, why are there only women in the title photo?
By the way, among the youth, Russophobes are represented mainly by women.
Therefore, the Armenians are only fellow travelers (like the Chinese, like the Turks ...) in solving a limited range of Russian national problems.
But the "multi-vector nature" that Pashinyan, that Lukashenka (hereinafter Poles, Skakuas, Bulgarians and other Balts ...) is ALWAYS a betrayal for Russia ...

[Turanov]

Quote: hydrox

Therefore, the Armenians are only fellow travelers (like the Chinese, like the Turks ...) in solving a limited range of Russian national problems.

Well, here I categorically disagree with you .. For its historical defense, Armenia paid Russia with its legendary sons Marshal Baghramyan, Mikoyans (a politician and his brother, a designer "Mig" ..)
Well, about the ancient Orthodoxy, I generally keep quiet .. About this now all Western and "our media" are gloomy about this .. Why would you give up Armenia and give you money and remove the sanctions .. Treachery is now in price in the West!

[hydrox]

That is why we are not giving up Armenia, but patiently waiting for life in the republic to become completely unbearable and your multi-vector nature (readiness for betrayal) will be replaced by other values, i.e. we expect the launch of a process similar to the Ukrainian one, but with our adjustments.

[Alex Justice]

For its historical protection, Armenia paid Russia with its legendary sons Marshal Baghramyan, Mikoyans (a politician and his brother, the designer "Mig" ..)

How much if converted to dollars?

[Clear]

Quote: Turanov

The lobby of Armenians all over the world is very powerful, if they could officially push through the "Armenian genocide" in the UN

According to Farid Zakaria, editor-in-chief of the well-known political magazines Foreign Affairs and Newsweek International, the gradation of ethnic lobbies in the United States is as follows

Influential include:
Irish,
Israeli,
Armenian
and the Greek lobby.
Other ethnic groups have a narrower range of tasks. ”

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

Armenian Foreign Ministry announced "permanent contact" with EU on the issue of possible recognition of Artsakh

Found someone to hope for ...

They grab hold of the "straw"

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

Armenian Foreign Ministry announced "permanent contact" with EU on the issue of possible recognition of Artsakh

Found someone to hope for ...

Not otherwise, someone for considerable dough convinced

[Selevc]

Earlier, on November 3, the Switzerland-Armenia parliamentary friendship group sent letters to the two chambers of the Swiss parliament with a proposal to recognize the independence of Artsakh.

Something I do not really believe in the friendship of the poorest country in the Caucasus with a bank safe in Europe and the world !!!
I think the EU can promise a lot to Armenia and write a lot to it with a pitchfork on the water - but as soon as it comes down to it, it turns out that the EU "did not mean it" or "the Armenians misunderstood them" !!! In general, the creation of fictitious projects and alliances is also skillful geopolitics and the EU knows how to do this skillfully. And the Armenians just once again in their history will be beautifully thrown !!!

[NTD]

Quote: Selevc

And the Armenians just once again in their history will be beautifully thrown !!!

Not thrown but culturally sent.
There are 4 UN resolutions, there are resolutions of the European Parliament. If they recognize (for example) Karabakh as independent, it means they themselves are spitting on their own rules, laws and international law. Azerbaijan collected these pieces of paper from all instances for a reason.

There are also a lot of European companies in Baku, the President of Azerbaijan has already hinted that after the war we will talk about contracts and projects. Do you think someone wants to lose their dough because of the Armenians?

I understand that everyone does not care about laws and so on ... but if you play this card beautifully, then they will not be able to do anything. And most importantly, we have a pipe ............... a very effective means to sober up the heads of those who do not blurt out about Azerbaijan.

[Thrifty]

"Such questions cannot be solved from the box ... go for a week, we will discuss with your comrades" - from the film "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes His Profession" it is more than appropriate here

[Prisoner]

"The Foreign Ministry of Armenia announced about" constant contact "with the EU ..." (c) What's the point?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Captive

"The Foreign Ministry of Armenia announced about" constant contact "with the EU ..." (c) What's the point?

They show violent activity in solving an interesting conflict to no one except the participants of the parties, Russia and Turkey

[Clear]

Quote: Captive

"The Foreign Ministry of Armenia announced about" constant contact "with the EU ..." (c) What's the point?

And what else can the Foreign Ministry answer? Not about contact, on the battlefield, with the enemy.

[Jager]

I wonder what kind of this "contact"?)

[flicker]

Best the enemy of the good.
---
Well, that's why Armenia did not want to resolve the issue within the framework of the Kazan agreements?
And because there is a better option:

... sent letters to two chambers of the Swiss parliament with a proposal to recognize the independence of Artsakh.

---
It was on this desire (recognition of Artsakh as independent) that the Armenians were caught, and by catching they were forced to make wrong decisions, such as:
- rejection of the Kazan agreements,
- a turn from cooperation with Russia in favor of cooperation with NATO, with further accession to NATO and this consolidation of the independence status of Artsakh
---
Moreover, the latter circumstance (the possible entry of Armenia into NATO) could be the detonator of the outbreak of the war in Karabakh and the military cooperation of Azerbaijan with Turkey.

[Ovsigovets]

NEA, no one recognizes ... not even Armenia

[Viktor Sergeev]

Withdraw troops from Armenia and let the EU decide everything. There are only a few weeks left until Karabakhkaput, and they are still consulting with someone, clowns.

[New Year day]

some cities and regions of Europe have already recognized Artsakh.

Lived, tin! It is enough to recognize Artsakh as Marseilles or Lyons and that's it ... it's in the bag
UN nafig, side states. Survived
But these confessions are like splashes and foam of champagne - do not drink, do not pour into a glass

[Krasnodar]

Come on ... even if the traumatology department of your hospital recognizes Ar.ts "ah - you don't care, the pills are nice

[New Year day]

Quote: Krasnodar

at least the department of traumatology

for injury - I do not guarantee, but psychosomatics recognizes everything you want for a box of drink

[7,62x54]

Apparently to speed up the process of recognition, the President of Karabakh moved to Yerevan

[astra wild2]

"The deputy minister considers this an important step" even the so-called "partially recognized" are in no hurry to recognize, and what does the province of Lombardy matter?
The only thing to annoy Aliev

[astra wild2]

Quote: Thrifty

"Such questions cannot be solved from the box ... go for a week, we will discuss with your comrades" - from the film "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes His Profession" it is more than appropriate here

I agree with you "we will discuss" until they get together and begin to discuss and it turns out that there is nothing to discuss: Baku will "solve" this problem

[Igor Semenov]

Adonts said that some cities and regions of Europe have already recognized Artsakh

This passage is simply enchanting!

[Cottager452]

Having held out for so much time against the enemy, many times superior in manpower and equipment, the people of Karabakh have already won and won
world recognition.

[Jager]

Excuse me, but what have these people been doing all 26 years?

[Gennady Fomkin]

In the Kremlin, of course, everyone rushed to immediately worry and sob. Ay-ay-ay.

And Azerbaijan, and in particular Aliyev (who were suddenly distinguished by all the years of common sense), in the wake of victorious reports, suddenly decided that it was necessary to break all ties with the Kremlin. They say offensive things, and finally sold weapons to the Armenians (supplied). Give us cooperation on oil with a dash (think in an Azeri - not the deposits are depleted).

[Gennady Fomkin]

I see an attempt to look into the mouth of the cannon: "Does Pachimu bang?" dry the gunpowder in the shell? Shouldn't we weld the shell to the tractor? (There were attempts! With casualties.)

[Gennady Fomkin]

"Pogrom" as a traditional European technology of periodic zeroing of the debt pyramid.

[Peter rybak]

Hello! Moderate your ardor a little, please. They threw the whole branch with semi-literate texts.
Best regards

[Peter rybak]

Of course, I am not a heartless person, and therefore I want to ask: who is the photograph of women and children intended for? How much can you press on feelings? But there is something like dignity.

[APASUS]

Some strange situation turns out One people, but they do not recognize Karabakh as a state in Armenia, but ask to recognize others

[yfast]

Perhaps the recognition of the NKR by Armenia means leaving the CSTO?

[Petr Vladimirovich]

In Moscow, within walking distance from each other, a large new mosque and a large new Armenian temple. And who, in the end, whatever the case ends, will be to blame? That's right - Russians ...

[Jager]

So send all the flock home to their historical homeland, let them decide. And how to use the buildings - whatever you like, a museum of the culture of these peoples, a gym, circles for children ...

[Pavlos Melas]

I certainly understand the Armenian side, but it is practically impossible to recognize this EU formation. Probably as an option if they prove that Aliyev personally eats Armenian mdadents in Karabakh. An alternative recognition is being received in Baku so far, as it is not visible such an outcome.

[Egor53]

Citizens of the Armenians, continue to contact the EU representatives for the recognition of Nagorno-Karabakh as an independent republic .... as part of the Azerbaijani state. So you, you bastards, and should. This is a payment for Russophobia.

[Old26]

Quote: Silvestr

Lived, tin! It is enough to recognize Artsakh as Marseilles or Lyons and that's it ... it's in the bag

It will be necessary to call the council of the microdistrict and offer to recognize the independence of Artsakh. What makes our neighborhood worse than Lyon?

[Alex Justice]

The censorship allowed the word A ... x in the article, but not in the commentary.
Double standard?

[Kuzmitsky]

Are you talking about Artsakh or some other word? I looked through the comments - it seems to be present, no one cuts. Although some commentators disguise it with all sorts of icons for some reason. Probably, they have their own censorship, personal.

[Alex Justice]

Allowed to write Artsakh :) Someone realized that it was too much for censorship.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Peter Rybak

Hello! Moderate your ardor a little, please. They threw the whole branch with semi-literate texts.
Best regards

Dear sir, where you saw "They threw the whole branch with semi-literate texts." Don't like it, don't read it. And this is said by people who November 1, 2020
REGISTERED.