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Conditions for holding elections in Donbass were named in Kiev

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Conditions for holding elections in Donbass were named in Kiev

In Kiev, elections are allowed in the territory of Donbass not controlled by Ukraine until March 31, 2021, but only if certain conditions are met. This was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba.


According to the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, elections in Donbass will be held subject to the transfer of a section of the border with Russia under Ukrainian control and only under Ukrainian law.

If we are seeking a settlement, then we must certainly hold elections. But only after the restoration of full control on the joint uncontrolled section of the Russian-Ukrainian border. They must be held in accordance with Ukrainian legislation, OSCE standards and with the admission of observers from the OSCE / ODIHR - Ukraine's position on this issue remains very clear

- he said.

At the same time, Kuleba explained that there is no binding of the election date to a specific date, March 31 is being considered, since this date was proposed in the plan developed by Kiev.

At the same time, the head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group (TGC) Leonid Kravchuk spoke about the "Plan of Joint Steps" prepared by the Ukrainian side to resolve the conflict in ORDLO (separate areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions) and the holding of elections there.

The first thing we propose to do is to end the necessarily armed conflict and to carry out the complete demilitarization of CADLO. That's where you start. That is, all armed formations, mercenaries, weapons must be withdrawn from this territory, illegal armed formations must be disbanded. And this must be done at the beginning of 2021

- he said.

After the fulfillment of these points, Kiev intends to take control of the border in order to ensure the "normal operation" of CADLO and then hold elections under Ukrainian law.

Meanwhile, the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov said that the conditions proposed by Kiev are at variance with the Minsk agreements. According to him, he does not know whether the plan developed in Kiev was transferred to Moscow. At the same time, Peskov called the new meeting of the Normandy quartet "meaningless", since, in his opinion, there is nothing to discuss at the meeting, since Ukraine has not fulfilled a single promise.

(...) A meeting of heads of state for the sake of a meeting cannot take place. (...) The result, at a minimum, should be to summarize the results of the implementation of previously reached agreements between the heads of state and government. (...) If you take a quick look at the document available to the public, you can state that not all points have been implemented as of today

- he added.

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  1. gurzuf
    gurzuf 5 November 2020 13: 26
    +7
    There is nothing to add to Peskov's words.
    1. Civil
      Civil 5 November 2020 13: 41
      +1
      There are no options for holding elections, Ukraine wants the border, Russia will not give up the border. This is all for a long time for at least 25 years ...
      1. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 5 November 2020 14: 06
        +4
        In Kiev, elections are allowed in the territory of Donbass not controlled by Ukraine until March 31, 2021, but only if certain conditions are met.

        This is roughly the same Aliyev says: -We are ready to stop the war immediately, but only if Armenia fulfills certain conditions. repeat
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 5 November 2020 14: 24
          -3
          Quote: LIONnvrsk
          In Kiev, elections are allowed in the territory of Donbass not controlled by Ukraine until March 31, 2021, but only if certain conditions are met.

          This is roughly the same Aliyev says: -We are ready to stop the war immediately, but only if Armenia fulfills certain conditions. repeat

          Ukraine and Azerbaijan are one and the same "leika gang" - that is, colonized and externally controlled countries! Ukraine under the Americans, Azerbaijan under the Turks.
          1. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 5 November 2020 17: 01
            +1
            And Armenia is under fascington, everyone stands for each other.
        2. St Petrov
          St Petrov 5 November 2020 14: 36
          -3
          This is about the same Aliev says:


          only they have opportunities at the level of Karabakh. Those. if now Karabakh began to dictate conditions to Aliyev with the air of a winner

          Here is such a shiz.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 November 2020 15: 30
          0
          Quote: LIONnvrsk
          We are ready to stop the war immediately, but if Armenia fulfills certain conditions.

          "The manual" sounds familiar.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 November 2020 14: 29
      -3
      Conditions called in Kiev

      Galushkin Kaganate, headed by a professional clown, dictates the conditions to the rest of the world community, through a selyuk with the name of Kuleba. Everything can be seen in this world.

      Soon, the winners will start paying reparations to the vanquished. This will be the next step in the war with logic

      After completing these points, Kiev intends to take control of the border


      bon appetit Ukrainians. Each of you deserves the power that you now have.

      Leonid Kravchuk spoke about the prepared by the Ukrainian side


      drug addicts.

      PS What about legalization in the end? Has it passed or not? Will it be even more fun? Will the messages launched into the global information space become brighter and more emotional?

      Although after the embroidery of Buddha found near Zhitomir ...
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 November 2020 14: 37
      -1
      Quote: gurzuf
      There is nothing to add to Peskov's words.

      Again the Sumerians launch the "tail of the cow".
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 5 November 2020 14: 40
        -2
        Again the Sumerians launch the "tail of the cow".


        bend the UN with their hopak.

        If you want to achieve the goal of your aspiration - ask more politely about the road you have lost.

        brothers, I will help with directions, you just ask.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 November 2020 15: 25
          0
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          brothers, I will help with directions, you just ask.

          But the blind road does not see how long you show him.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 5 November 2020 16: 45
            -3
            you can press the minus and thus defeat Moscow. Or go to VKontakte and write that Crimea is tse Ukraine

            This is the pride of the Ukrainian nation and the quality of the material from which this tribe was molded.
            Minus beat on my great power chauvinism wassat Pathetic Aryans
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 5 November 2020 17: 15
              0
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              you can press the minus and thus defeat Moscow.

              Which is what they do.
    4. svp67
      svp67 5 November 2020 17: 53
      +1
      Quote: gurzuf
      There is nothing to add to Peskov's words.

      There is that. Seeing the sad experience of Nagorno-Karabakh, the independence of which even Armenia did not recognize, it is time to raise the issue of the recognition of these Republics, and their merger into one sovereign country.
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 5 November 2020 13: 34
    +2
    illegal armed groups must be disbanded. And this must be done at the beginning of 2021
    And then there will be a lot of blood!
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 November 2020 13: 42
    -1
    It is high time for the Kremlin to recognize these territories as part of Russia, and to demand the return of the territories of the Azov coast to the Ukrainian government.
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 November 2020 13: 43
    +2
    From a dead donkey you have ears, not a border. Everything is exactly according to the chronology of the treaty, and so that the DPR and LPR would approve it. Free!
  5. BAI
    BAI 5 November 2020 13: 47
    +3
    holding elections in the territory of Donbass not controlled by Ukraine until March 31, 2021, but only if certain conditions are met.

    And these conditions are the complete surrender of Donbass. I hope the Russian leadership understands that the drain of Donbas will be perceived by absolutely everyone as a deflection under the sanctions. Those. sanctions are the right way, and you only need to tighten them in order to squeeze Crimea back. After the drain of Donbass, the "world community", with tenfold efforts, will pounce on the Crimea, for the company and the Kuriles will be pulled up. Those. territorial issues can be resolved by economic sanctions. And this will be death for Russia.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 5 November 2020 14: 19
      0
      And these conditions are the complete surrender of Donbass. Hopefully ...... an interesting fact .... but what will the junta do with all the inhabitants of the LDNR who have received and are receiving Russian passports ....... to the scrap !!!! I doubt it, especially since the ruble zone in the LPNR is in full swing. everyone has already forgotten about the hryvnia and they scored on it ........ so the chatter of the forehead elections to nowhere ...... just so, in a jolt I defecated those elections
      1. t-12
        t-12 6 November 2020 23: 12
        0
        and what will the junta do with all the inhabitants of the LPR who have received and are receiving Russian passports?
        And where is the junta doing the Russians on Ukrainian territory? Someone squeezed out into Russia (by intimidation, language restrictions). She turned someone over and made them jump happily in an embroidered shirt. The same will happen (if the junta succeeds) on the territory of the LPR.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 7 November 2020 09: 08
          0
          The same will happen (if the junta succeeds) on the territory of the LPNR ... ... this is unlikely ... the junta no longer has the strength or the means ... they are busy with embezzlement in full ... so about the elections in LDNR is a common chatter ... the huntar would learn from the grannies at the entrances ... their gossip is much more elegant and believable
          1. t-12
            t-12 7 November 2020 14: 16
            0
            the junta no longer has the strength or the means ... they are busy with embezzlement in full
            It does not interfere. Respectable people are sawing the budget, grassroots activists have fun "catching separatists."
  6. iouris
    iouris 5 November 2020 13: 47
    -1
    This is some ... shame.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 5 November 2020 14: 34
      0
      This is some kind of ... a shame ... a shame only to the representatives of the Kiwiv junta ... it sucks, ... and the citizens of the LDNR know for themselves they get passports of the Russian Federation and don’t blow a must ... it is necessary to choose ..... the joke is that the Kiev Khnta has only political masters. popolizy and the state house itself ... only one thing will come out of this sludge ... payno
  7. fn34440
    fn34440 5 November 2020 13: 48
    +1
    First, the stupid man Kuchma, who chopped off Gongadze's head, for exposing corruption and the sale of weapons and ammunition to the GSVG.
    Now a complete cavalier of senile dementia, ideosyncrasy and russophobia, Yeltsin and Gorbachev's accomplice in the collapse of the USSR-Kravchuk. With him, in general, on the same field zapadlo fuck.
    And yet these subhumans are rolling out their conditions. Bandera's servants.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 November 2020 14: 45
      0
      Quote: fn34440
      Bandera's servants.

      And Westerners.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 November 2020 14: 07
    +3
    said Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba.
    Chugunkin 2.0. Once again, arrogantly, with aplomb, they put forward conditions to which the opposite side will never agree. At the same time, considering themselves too cunning, they want to show Germany and France that they are taking incredible efforts to restore peace in the Donbass. The phrase "Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine" is already causing dislike.
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 5 November 2020 14: 34
    +1
    As old as the world, signed agreements in Minsk and now they are trying to choose the best pieces of them
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 November 2020 14: 45
      -2
      this is usually done by little kids who do not understand the essence of the signature under the agreement.

      He is cured by his youth, or as in Ukraine.
  10. sergo1914
    sergo1914 5 November 2020 14: 50
    0
    Unclear. Ukraine thinks it is at war with Russia. Russia ... well, everything is clear. To hand over a section of the border, someone must surrender. And since the war with Russia is only in bosko ... those who start with the letter "x" (the whole word cannot be written here), then it turns out they have to capitulate? Then the border seems to move in the opposite direction, reparations are paid. Where to hold a referendum? In certain areas of the Kiev region? Completely confused.
  11. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 5 November 2020 15: 40
    0
    If we are seeking a settlement, then we must certainly hold elections. But only after the restoration of full control on the joint uncontrolled section of the Russian-Ukrainian border.
    I didn’t take this fad as serious at first, but after thinking I realized, “This is the main idea of ​​the Sumerian Bandera” - the border between Lao PDR and Russia is under their control, not to let anyone in, but the worst thing is “not to let anyone out”. It’s scary to even imagine the Lao PDR later, Majdanek near Lublin will seem like a kindergarten, and Russia will no longer be able to provide any assistance, even humanitarian. A howl will rise "Violation of the borders of a sovereign state, Russia invaded Ukraine! Save the West from the aggressor!"
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 5 November 2020 21: 48
      0
      Quote: tihonmarine
      What then will the Lao PDR even imagine scary,

      Why "present"? It is enough to go to Mariupol and see.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 November 2020 09: 28
        0
        Quote: Normal ok
        Why "present"? It is enough to go to Mariupol and see.

        After 2014, I did not have to be in Mariupol, and indeed in Ukraine, the last time in March 2014 I flew from Odessa, so even then we all "foreigners" were taken to the airport under the escort of the SBU, and were controlled before the plane departed. And then God had mercy, swept past Ukraine.
  12. yfast
    yfast 5 November 2020 15: 59
    0
    When a hundred F-35s are purchased, they will learn to fly, then conditions will be set.
    1. Turanov
      Turanov 5 November 2020 16: 45
      -4
      Quote: yfast
      When a hundred F-35s are purchased, they will learn to fly, then conditions will be set.

      One will be bought and all of Ukraine will work on its service))) They won't pull it anymore!
  13. Turanov
    Turanov 5 November 2020 16: 44
    -4
    Kiev Bandera still has the audacity to set conditions for Donbass-Russia? First, you will have to answer for the crimes and murders of civilians that have been going on for five years.
  14. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 5 November 2020 17: 01
    +1
    Well, yes, after the occupation, the "correct" elections, as in 404, where all thinking candidates are "lustrated" and choose between a clown fascist debi.lom and a drunk pastry chef. laughing
  15. orionvitt
    orionvitt 5 November 2020 17: 20
    0
    Conditions called in Kiev
    The worst thing in life is not when you died. You don't care, but people around you are suffering (or they don't care, as an option). But worst of all, this is an option, as with Ukraine. When you are clinical, you don't care, but people around you really suffer.
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 November 2020 17: 35
    0
    In general, Ukraine's approach is interesting ... they are doing a favor to Donbas that it will return to Ukraine.
  17. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 5 November 2020 18: 46
    0
    A targeted blow to the parliament during the meeting, and the Minsk ones will come into action right there.
  18. German Titov
    German Titov 5 November 2020 20: 49
    +1
    From "dead BAIDEN" you have ears, not control over the border !!!
  19. Militia
    Militia 5 November 2020 23: 21
    0
    Not a single word of these Kravchuk, Kuleb "people" has faith. Only a complete lie. Kravchuk-Bandera # 1. Kuleba from a brigade of sorosyatniks. Is there at least one intelligible and transparent from the side of Ukraine in TCG? They also set conditions! There is only one condition! Only the execution of the MC and not a step back.