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"JF-17 turned out to be with many defects": Indian press on a Chinese fighter in the service of Pakistan

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Of the entire fleet of JF-17 fighters in service with the Pakistani army, 40 percent of the aircraft are in a non-flying state and forced to stand idle on the ground.


This is reported by the Indian media, pointing to the design flaws of the machine, developed in the PRC under the designation FC-1. It is presented by Beijing as one of the country's "technological breakthroughs".

There are problems with the fuselage, cracks in the skin of the lower fairing are fixed. This is the area most susceptible to overload and static pressure.
- the press notes, pointing out that this machine is the most modern fighter in Pakistan, which must fight at the forefront with the latest models of Indian military equipment, including the recently purchased Rafali from France. It is indicated that at the same time the FC-1 is one of the main aircraft in China along with the J-20.

Currently, approximately 40% of JF-17s stationed at two Pakistani air bases are pinned to the ground for various technical reasons. However, there is no quick way to solve the problem, since it is associated with defects in the aircraft design.

The electrical system of the flashlight is in disrepair, making it difficult or almost impossible to eject the pilot in case of danger. The same applies to the two-seater JF-17B. Cracks were found not only in the skin of the lower fairing, but also in the "streaks" [tail stabilizers], which, apparently, was also caused by the loads during the flight.

There have been cases of breakage of anchors in the locations of the radar and related equipment, as this equipment was too heavy for this part of the fighter.

This is another evidence of the aircraft's structural weakness.
- says the Indian press, describing the many defects in Pakistan's frontline combat aviation cars.

According to the IISS-2020, a total of 49 JF-17 units are in service with Islamabad, distributed across five squadrons.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 5 November 2020 08: 33
    +4
    Strongly scolded ...
    Why all of a sudden?
    Maybe you don't like it a lot?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 November 2020 08: 40
      +8
      Quote: Victor_B
      Strongly scolded ...
      Why all of a sudden?

      "Two birds with one stone" yes - at the same time, Chinese equipment was smashed as best they could, and Pakistan was hinted that they were thoroughly aware of their problems in the Air Force, and therefore the vulnerability of defense.
      1. MTN
        MTN 5 November 2020 08: 44
        -1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Chinese technology

        I was always skeptical about Chinese technology.
        1. jovanni
          jovanni 5 November 2020 09: 00
          +5
          Quote: MTN
          Quote: Insurgent
          Chinese technology

          I was always skeptical about Chinese technology.

          And I am still afraid to buy a Chinese car. What if the fairing cracks?))) Although they seem to have become much better ...
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 5 November 2020 08: 54
      +3
      Quote: Victor_B
      Strongly scolded

      Does Chinese mean excellent? Well, this is so, by the way. The East is a delicate matter ... it is difficult to extract true information ...
    3. Civil
      Civil 5 November 2020 09: 03
      +5
      I remember that the Armenians laughed at the UAVs of Azerbaijanis, wrote similar articles ...
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 November 2020 08: 34
    11
    This is written by experts from a country whose customers for several years have not been able to clearly formulate those specifications for a product? !! And then, in general, they refuse the tender?
    Oh well...
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 5 November 2020 08: 36
    +4
    And in Pakistan they don't swear, do they?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 November 2020 08: 44
      +7
      Quote: rocket757
      And in Pakistan they don't swear, do they?

      If they swear, then - "Just a little too", not washing dirty linen in public.
      But bad luck recourse ... Somewhere "leaked", and information about the state of the fighter fleet, which is actually secret, "floated" to the Indians ...

      Now, with the planes, something needs to be addressed, and the "leak" must be found ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 November 2020 08: 58
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Now, with the planes, something needs to be addressed, and the "leak" must be found ...

        This is the case, it is necessary to decide, but if the truth has accumulated so much non-flight equipment, this is already a fundamental problem.
        By the way, finding a leak is a super fundamental problem.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 November 2020 09: 03
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          By the way, finding a leak is a super fundamental problem.

          Someone talks a lot ... Or technicians, or pilots.
          Although it is possible that it "leaked" in the headquarters, where it is received, and all information about the technical condition of the aircraft is accumulating.
          The Indians describe the problems and defects of the JF-17 in great detail, as if they were digging into them ...
  4. Maks1995
    Maks1995 5 November 2020 08: 53
    +3
    Indians? They can ... still praise opponents
    And 40% are idle - it's not that much. They wrote about European once, there is about the same.

    Yes, and we have - literally the day before yesterday, Mig - in the ranks of a hundred, 120 in stock ...
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      5 November 2020 08: 55
      +4
      Defective drill equipment and those in stock are still different things.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 5 November 2020 09: 19
        -1
        Different, yes.
        I don’t know our data.

        But they are Indians! they can write not 40%, but 99,9%. And the spare ones must be turned on ... They don't think they have it, everyone will endure
  5. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 5 November 2020 09: 06
    +1
    Commerce. Anti-advertising move. laughing
  6. yfast
    yfast 5 November 2020 09: 07
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    I remember that the Armenians laughed at the UAVs of Azerbaijanis, wrote similar articles ...

    BMWs assembled in Russia from vehicle kits are not Russian BMWs, so there are no Azeri UAVs. The Chinese have everything created and developed by them, all products with defects, the main thing is whether this defect interferes with operation or not.
    1. Igor Berg
      Igor Berg 5 November 2020 09: 19
      +1
      Armenians laugh at Azerbaijanis' UAVs

      so it means the UAVs purchased by Azerbaijanis and are in service in the az. armies ... let them laugh further ..
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 November 2020 09: 33
      +3
      Quote: yfast
      The Chinese have everything created and developed by them, all products with defects, the main thing is whether this defect interferes with operation or not.

      "Not really", this is when you have to, in which case, open the faulty lamp with your head? A fun perspective yes .
      The pilot of such an airplane must in advance tune in to the fact that, under the circumstances, he is actually a kamikaze?
  7. smart fellow
    smart fellow 5 November 2020 09: 14
    +2
    If someone else wrote, but not the Indians.
    https://www.bbc.com/russian/international/2013/08/130822_mig21_india_russia
    Open data leaked to the press say that of the more than 900 MiG-21s received by the Indian Air Force, more than 400 have crashed. In this case, more than 130 pilots were killed.
    It is indicated that at the same time the FC-1 is one of the main aircraft in China along with the J-20.

    JF-17 / FC-1 is not in service with China at all.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_FC-1_Xiaolong
    Operators: Pakistan Air Force

    It seems that several more planes were sold abroad. You can search the Internet if you're interested.
    1. Maluck
      Maluck 5 November 2020 22: 01
      -1
      Open data leaked to the press say that of the more than 900 MiG-21s received by the Indian Air Force, more than 400 have crashed. In this case, more than 130 pilots were killed.


      I had to see this miracle (MiG-21) up close and at work. I was especially struck by the landing speed, about 300 km / h. (for reference, this is how formula 1 cars drive) The schools that taught pilots on them in Soviet times had the highest percentage of accidents, because it is difficult even for an experienced pilot, let alone a cadet, to land a plane at such a speed.
    2. alexey alexeyev_2
      alexey alexeyev_2 9 November 2020 16: 06
      0
      Most of the crashed MiGs were piloted by dropouts. It seems that the last crashed moment was piloted by an eighteen-year-old pilot with the rank of about our senior.
  8. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 5 November 2020 09: 19
    +2
    The Indian demand for military equipment has already become legendary. For themselves, they want nothing less than a starship, and practically for free. It is somewhat strange that similar requirements are imposed on the equipment of the main enemy. Are they encouraging Pakistan to pay more attention to improving the combat readiness of its combat aircraft? Are Hindus masochists?
    And I don't think that "Rafal" will be an exception for all the always dissatisfied Indians. Perhaps the French will soon regret having sold them their planes - the singing and dancing people will never admit that they simply do not know how to maintain and use modern technology, therefore, all accidents, failures in the possible combat use of Rafale will be attributed to an unsuccessful design, creating anti-advertising to the manufacturer.
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 5 November 2020 16: 58
      +1
      Quote: UAZ 452
      singing and dancing people will never admit that they simply do not know how to maintain and use modern technology, therefore, all accidents, failures in the possible combat use of Rafale will be attributed to an unsuccessful design,

      The Indians are armed with the Mirage-2000 and I don’t remember any big complaints from the Indians.
  9. Naughty
    Naughty 5 November 2020 09: 45
    0
    Quote: Victor_B
    Strongly scolded ...
    Why all of a sudden?
    Maybe you don't like it a lot?


    But cheap! laughing
  10. Svetlana
    Svetlana 5 November 2020 10: 04
    +1
    A common problem with purchased hardware. They scraped together the loot for the purchase, but nothing was budgeted for maintenance and spare parts. Service, by the way, may be more expensive than the purchase price.
    And yes, this is the same problem as in yesterday's article on Peruvian MI26.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 November 2020 10: 06
    +3
    The criticism from the Indian media is understandable - a confrontation over territorial disputes. But why should you criticize your neighbor so intensely when you don't build planes yourself, but buy them all over the world? It is tempting to look for a straw in someone else's eye without seeing the log in your own.
  12. mvg
    mvg 5 November 2020 10: 07
    +2
    Who writes such nonsense ???
    // It is indicated that at the same time the FC-1 is one of the main aircraft in China along with the J-20. //
    Who reprints, I know ... Respect!
  13. Toucan
    Toucan 5 November 2020 13: 31
    0
    It is indicated that at the same time the FC-1 is one of the main aircraft in China along with the J-20.

    What nonsense? The author of this "news" was not destiny to look into the reference books?
    The main fighters in the PLA Air Force are currently the heavy Su-30 / J-11 and light J-10, which are actively replacing the outdated J-7.
  14. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 5 November 2020 13: 33
    +2
    FC-1 is one of the main aircraft in China along with the J-20

    JF-17 / FC-1 is not in service with China, an aircraft of joint Pakistani-Chinese development, with a Russian RD-93 engine, Pakistan refused from Chinese engines! )) wink
    The aircraft is manufactured in Pakistan - PAC, for export to other countries in China - SAC. The last modification with AFAR
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 8 November 2020 22: 23
    0
    No complaints about the engines?