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“Was it possible?”: Lukashenka’s request to buy an oil field in Russia is being discussed online

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Experts and ordinary users are actively discussing the information that was announced the day before after telephone conversations between Moscow and Minsk.


Perhaps the main attention was drawn to the news about the oil and gas theme, which was touched upon during the conversation between Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko. The press service of the President of Belarus reported that Alexander Lukashenko started talking about the idea that he had an idea to acquire an oil field in Russia.

It is stated that Lukashenka turned to Putin with a request for such an acquisition during a telephone conversation.

From the message of the press service of the President of the Republic of Belarus:

Vladimir Putin supported this idea. After elaboration, the issue will be discussed in more detail during the next negotiations.

At the moment, the Kremlin has not commented on this kind of information. In Belarus itself, they did not say which oil field in Russia could be discussed, nor did they comment on how constitutional such a purchase could be.

Intrigues to this conversation between the two presidents are added by the discussion of granting a loan to Minsk. It will be, as they say, doubly interesting if Lukashenka's initiative fits into the purchase of an oil field from Russia with the funds of a Russian loan.

Discussing the telephone conversations between the two presidents, the network asks what the term “purchase of a deposit” can mean, in the understanding of the head of Belarus. Does this mean that Minsk is going to buy the territory of this field or pay Russia in advance for all the volumes of oil in it?

If this is so, then the question arises: "What, was it possible?"

The statement of the press service of the Republic of Belarus that “Vladimir Putin supported the idea” raises no less questions.

If we do not forget that Belarus is a foreign state for the Russian Federation, then during the very discussion of trade in deposits a strange prospect arises: the sale of not minerals abroad as such, but of entire deposits ... How much does this correspond to the interests of Russia? And to what extent does this correspond to the interests of the Belarusian people, to whom Lukashenka continues to promise the beginning of constitutional changes?
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  1. Asad
    Asad 5 November 2020 07: 14 New
    12
    As in a song from youth, GIVE! GIVE GIVE GIVE
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 5 November 2020 07: 20 New
      17
      He will also require the keys to your apartment ... an insolent comrade. smile
      But I understand him, he takes advantage of the moment to squeeze the maximum out of his ally ... his appetite is not frail.
      1. Artyom Khromov
        Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 07: 23 New
        42
        Why Sell? You can exchange ... for Belarus.

        Under Russian law, only mining is permitted. Moreover, the tax will have to be paid not on the sale of oil, but on its production. Luka does not have enough money to buy a field that would allow with its production volume to pay tax on production, and not on the sale of oil on the market.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 5 November 2020 07: 25 New
          +4
          smile Luka is a cunning comrade, he will think of something.
          1. Artyom Khromov
            Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 07: 34 New
            57
            I want to return to the USSR, so that not a single bastard from London and Barvikha could trade the country's property for personal interests for the sake of another yacht!
            1. Koval Sergey
              Koval Sergey 5 November 2020 08: 06 New
              26
              Quote: Artyom Khromov
              I want the USSR back so that not a single bastard from London and Barvikha could trade in the country's property

              Soon Dima Peskov will make a statement that the people have misunderstood everything.
              1. Pilot
                Pilot 5 November 2020 08: 28 New
                +3
                Quote: Koval Sergey
                Soon Dima Peskov will make a statement that the people have misunderstood everything.
                It's late, it's already here .. laughing
                - On Luka-sea, the oak was cut down
                - They chopped the onion for meat .......
                1. Boris Nevzorov
                  Boris Nevzorov 5 November 2020 08: 46 New
                  12
                  It seems to me that our daddy falls into childhood little by little. As this srach settles in Belarus, it is necessary to replace him as planned. And then it will become obscene right on the throne.
              2. Hagen
                Hagen 5 November 2020 11: 52 New
                +5
                Quote: Sergey Koval
                Soon Dima Peskov will make a statement that the people have misunderstood everything.

                You can talk about a concept or misunderstanding when you have something to understand. Today there is only an idea. There are no terms for the deal. What to discuss is not clear (first of all? ...
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 6 November 2020 08: 58 New
                  -1
                  you need to think about understanding / not understanding - BEFORE .. about accepting / not accepting AFTER .. but start trying to understand what has already happened ... somehow not smartly .. talking about how frightened the idea of ​​a deal is not rejected at all right away ..
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 5 November 2020 09: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: Artyom Khromov
              I want the USSR back,

              I want it too, but the story has no reverse.
              1. Boris Nevzorov
                Boris Nevzorov 5 November 2020 09: 16 New
                +3
                Solidarity!

                And the payment must be unambiguous - the entry of Belarus into the Russian Federation.
            3. UAZ 452
              UAZ 452 5 November 2020 09: 37 New
              -1
              I want to return to the USSR, so that not a single bastard from London and Barvikha could trade the country's property for personal interests for the sake of another yacht!

              Well, yes - the USSR gave this property for free to numerous friends, and the leaders of these friendly countries turned all this into the same yachts. From this Leonid Ilyich had a gesheft in the form of deep kisses on the gums. And what did a simple Soviet person have? Yes, the same as now - a donut hole.
            4. Machito
              Machito 5 November 2020 22: 20 New
              +3
              It will not work back to the USSR, the time machine has not yet been assembled. Only if the USSR is built anew. But this is not easy. To break is not to build.
              Quote: Artyom Khromov
              I want to return to the USSR, so that not a single bastard from London and Barvikha could trade the country's property for personal interests for the sake of another yacht!
        2. Runoway
          Runoway 5 November 2020 08: 05 New
          +6
          Luka doesn't have enough money to buy such a deposit

          Yes, they will give him a loan, and then they will write off the debts, the scheme is worked out
          1. tech3030
            tech3030 5 November 2020 09: 15 New
            +2
            The one who needs to make money on it.
          2. Terrible GMO
            Terrible GMO 5 November 2020 12: 40 New
            -2
            Quote: Runoway
            Yes, they will give him a loan, and then they will write off the debts, the scheme is worked out

            And also a loan to close the 1.8 billion rubles deficit, a loan to close the penalty to Gazprom, And also a loan for a nuclear power plant, and also a loan for a new oil and gas contract for 2021, and also to pay off a debt of 230 million dollars to the Chinese for satellite, and what else we don't know.

            Russia is rich, it will pay for everything. smile
        3. aglet
          aglet 5 November 2020 09: 19 New
          +2
          "Luka doesn't have enough money to buy such a deposit."
          Putin will give him another loan
        4. Terrible GMO
          Terrible GMO 5 November 2020 12: 36 New
          -3
          Quote: Artyom Khromov
          According to Russian legislation

          And now "no time for laws." What's in the Russian Federation, what's in Belarus.
          According to the legislation of the Republic of Bashkortostan, only a citizen of the Republic of Bashkortostan can be the chief editor of print media, and now the head of the same "Komsomol member" is a citizen of the Russian Federation. So that smile Sho "kings" want, then they do.
        5. private person
          private person 5 November 2020 13: 06 New
          -3
          Luka doesn't have enough money to buy such a deposit

          And what has the money to do with it? Russia is a generous soul, after all, the GDP supported the idea.
        6. rjpthju
          rjpthju 5 November 2020 18: 40 New
          0
          There is enough money, we will lend it, and then write off the debt. It would be better if he wrote off his debts on loans to his people.
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 5 November 2020 07: 23 New
        +3
        Lukashenka always asked to sell him a small oil field
        1. Artyom Khromov
          Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 07: 35 New
          22
          Lukashenka hopes to get energy independence from it (Russia) by buying an oil field in Russia? Does this mean a part of Russian land and its subsoil will become the property of another state? But what about the amendment to the Constitution, which was voted for in the spring? Only by becoming a part of the Russian state, Belarus can receive for use (but not property) an oil field. Although this is a dubious deal between two subjects of one state. Something is wrong here...
          1. SAG
            SAG 5 November 2020 08: 15 New
            +3
            Luca thinks he is smarter again laughing He has never studied our bureaucracy ?! Wangyu: He will be asked to pay for the lease of land, for all oil at prime cost less development costs, lease for boreholes and a duty for transporting oil through our territory. If you add interest on the loan, it will again go to waste. In a couple of years, when everything is counted, tantrums and flirting with the West will start again.
            Leopard change his spots. IMHO hi
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 5 November 2020 08: 45 New
              +6
              I doubt the bureaucracy. As they are told, they will count.
              And about the humpback - that's right.
              He grew bolder, stopped whining, again shows his teeth and growls.
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 5 November 2020 08: 18 New
            21
            Quote: Artyom Khromov
            Does this mean a part of Russian land and its subsoil will become the property of another state?

            Are you sure that the subsoil generally belongs to the Russian state? You are mistaken and nornickel as an example to you.
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 November 2020 08: 47 New
              10
              Quote: Stroporez
              nornickel as an example to you.

              And a lot more, besides nornickel. Up to the same Rosneft, in which the state actually voluntarily renounced a controlling stake and the chairman of the board of directors of which former German Chancellor Schroeder, and most of that council, are foreign citizens.
            2. Boris Nevzorov
              Boris Nevzorov 5 November 2020 08: 50 New
              +8
              I do not see any problems.
              Let him buy a drilling platform and drill in the Kara Sea. At the same time it legalizes shrimp.

            3. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 5 November 2020 09: 10 New
              11
              Quote: Stroporez
              Are you sure that the subsoil generally belongs to the Russian state? You are mistaken and nornickel as an example to you.

              yes
              And you can also remember who owns aluminum in Russia and since when. repeat
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 5 November 2020 09: 16 New
                +7
                Quote: ROSS 42
                And you can also remember who owns aluminum in Russia and since when.

                Unfortunately, Skakuaso-scrapers have a very short memory, like an aquarium fish, a complete lack of critical thinking and cause-and-effect relationships. request
                1. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 5 November 2020 09: 18 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  complete absence of critical thinking and causation.

                  But how developed the herd feeling! fellow
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 5 November 2020 09: 24 New
                    +5
                    Quote: ROSS 42
                    But how developed the herd feeling!

                    You got to the very point! good Here it is appropriate to recall how, after the abolition of serfdom, slaves threw themselves at the feet of their master with exclamations "to whom are you leaving us, father?" Moreover, every slave dreams of becoming a master and there is no worse master in the world than a former slave.

                    PySy. I recently watched the film Communist. I was struck by the fact that at the height of the civil war, the Soviet government built power plants, just for the former slaves, but just as now they acted as a reactionary part of the people.
                    And now this power plant belongs to the German government and it is building 6 power unit there.
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 5 November 2020 18: 01 New
                      +2
                      Applied to today's "news".
                      USSR - bread and ships.
                      Russia - a dose of "scrap" and a fresh "ship".
                      As they say, feel the difference! request
          3. Pereira
            Pereira 5 November 2020 08: 43 New
            +1
            Tomorrow we will be voted to cancel the amendment. Business?
            1. Boris Nevzorov
              Boris Nevzorov 5 November 2020 08: 53 New
              +1
              1. In Belarus, the navel will untie the market price of the deposit to pay.
              2. Russia will continue to control the pipe.
              3. The export duty will be set by Russia. Even if Potato Dad manages to scrape together the money, there won't be any freebies.
              And in the end, if they sell him, they will sell him a small deposit, which will not even close the needs of Belarus. So the Faberge Potato Pope didn’t grow out to outwit Putin ...
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 5 November 2020 08: 57 New
                +4
                I strongly doubt that he is asking on the listed conditions. Usually he wants free of charge, i.e. for nothing.
                1. Boris Nevzorov
                  Boris Nevzorov 5 November 2020 09: 02 New
                  0
                  Freebie-pliz for Lukashenka is over. This was made clear to him in the Kremlin, after which Lukashenka cried in "Echo of Moscow", while throwing mud at Russia.
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 5 November 2020 10: 01 New
                    0
                    Judging by the new Wishlist, he either did not understand or ignored.
          4. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 5 November 2020 09: 17 New
            -2
            Quote: Artyom Khromov
            Does this mean a part of Russian land and its subsoil will become the property of another state?

            Most likely they will sit on the hook of dependence on Russia, and then they have nowhere to go. (the main thing is to correctly arrange everything).
          5. New Year day
            New Year day 5 November 2020 09: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: Artyom Khromov
            But what about the amendment to the Constitution, which was voted for in the spring?

            Do you know that nobody promised to observe this constitution? For now, the refusal of free medical care is being discussed, now the zemstvo organizer decided, first Luke, then-?
            What if the Chinese make such a request? Can't we refuse?
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 5 November 2020 18: 29 New
              +4
              Sylvester hi.
              "Whoever eats a girl, dances her." (FROM)
              That is why on the Lisbon-Beijing highway any "natural and not so" needs of "friends" and "partners" are satisfied "without getting up from their knees."
          6. French108
            French108 6 November 2020 13: 47 New
            0
            Maybe this is the deep meaning?
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 November 2020 08: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        But I understand him, he takes advantage of the moment to squeeze the maximum out of his ally ... his appetite is not frail.

        He also asked to BUY, and not "squeeze" or squeeze out, unlike the local oligarchs. Explain why the ten-million people of Belarus are worse, for example, Abgamrvich, Mikhelson, Timchenki or Vrotenberg and other Potanins.
        These gaspads "squeezed out", squeezed out and exported so many achriniliards from you in 20 years that you can rebuild the whole country together with the infrastructure twice, but you don’t give a damn about that, but Lukashenka, who offered to buy a couple of wells at market price, needs to spread rot ... prala?
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 5 November 2020 09: 15 New
          0
          Almost socialism, in Belarus, haunts our wolf cubs. Of course they spread rot. They are accused of all sins, so as not to fall into the meat grinder of the Russian aligarhat and to preserve social justice but the bam is spinning as best he can. Gobble up, of course, it's a matter of time. It is quite possible to assume that Russian fat cats had a hand in the Maidan attempt in Belarus. There are goodies for them.
          1. your1970
            your1970 5 November 2020 10: 11 New
            0
            Quote: Essex62
            Almost socialism, in Belarus, haunts our wolf cubs. Of course they spread rot. They are accused of all sins, so as not to fall into the meat grinder of the Russian aligarhat and to preserve social justice but the bam is spinning as best he can. Gobble up, of course, it's a matter of time. It is quite possible to assume that Russian fat cats had a hand in the Maidan attempt in Belarus. There are goodies for them.
            -Are you serious? that is, Putin VS oligarchy
            Quote: Essex62
            Russian fat cats
            ??
            Putin recognizes the victory of Lukashenko, promises help by the security forces, is negotiating with him ... But it would be the other way around - Putin would recognize the victory of the cook, would negotiate with her, condemn the actions of the security forces of the Republic of Belarus
            Do you understand what - what are you writing ???? By your logic-
            Either Putin is a protege of the oligarchy, and then Lukashenko would have been multiplied by zero long ago, or Putin is against the oligarchy, and the oligarchy absolutely cared about the whole of Belarus
            fool
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 5 November 2020 17: 46 New
              +1
              In no case. Putin supports Lukashenko due to the possible loss of another border country. But it didn't work out to multiply by zero. And he solved his problem without the Kremlin. I have no doubt that in the case of the Ukrainian scenario I would go to the end and reel the buza on the harp, without any Putin. The overwhelming majority of Belarusians support the state social structure in the country. Regarding the participation of the Russian aligarhat in the coup attempt, I only made an assumption. Do you seriously believe that they coordinate all their actions with the director of the cooperative?
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 5 November 2020 19: 22 New
                +1
                Quote: Essex62
                in the case of the Ukrainian scenario, I would go to the end and reel the buza on the harp, without any Putin.

                Don't you find it strange that in 2 months not a single attempt to seize power ?!
                And how does this fit in with the Ukrainian scenario?
                Quote: Essex62
                The overwhelming majority of Belarusians support the state social structure in the country.

                Sure? While this is pseudo-socialism at the expense of Russian money. Russia will not give money and this socialism will die.
                And then, the "vast majority"! Do not chase a blizzard - there are no opinion polls in Belarus on this matter, respectively, your words are just words
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 6 November 2020 07: 21 New
                  -1
                  You see, my roots are in Belarus and I keep in touch with the clan. Only the salty, who does not have the burden of responsibility for the family, sincerely tries to buzz. So she always and everywhere rages. There is a lot of energy, little brains. And so they do not want the backbone on the neck. And why did you decide that they live at the expense of the Russian Federation. They are insulted by their hardworking and judicious people. That is why they work and live.
                  And with more precise wording. I never carry a blizzard. I have my opinion based on facts and in accordance with the worldview.
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 6 November 2020 16: 47 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Essex62
                    Only salty, who does not have the burden of responsibility for the family, sincerely tries to buzz

                    Again red and white. Having a family is an indicator of what? And if a family of schizos?
                    1. Essex62
                      Essex62 7 November 2020 10: 22 New
                      0
                      Yes, that's right, red and white. And where do you go from this. Well, maybe that head in the sand in the manner of an ostrich. I recognize an intellectual, your vociferous tribe gave a wave to the traitors in 91m. And now she settled down on a teplinky and spit in all directions. And, the henchman of the bourgeois, Putin is dissatisfied and Stalin is your tyrant-bloodsucker.
                      1. New Year day
                        New Year day 7 November 2020 13: 04 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Yes, that's right, red and white. Where do you go from this

                        Then start shooting each other.
                        Quote: Essex62
                        your loud-tongued tribe waved the traitors in 91m.

                        Did you hold the candle? Were you at the origins?
                        Quote: Essex62
                        And, the henchman of the bourgeois, Putin is dissatisfied and Stalin you have a tyrant-bloodsucker

                        And in the middle you can live without extremes? Or masochists and through hardships to the stars. .inaccessible?
                        Can you live normally?
                        Not to surf the moon with Mars, but to create normal health care, honor and prosperity for a pensioner?
                      2. Essex62
                        Essex62 9 November 2020 14: 16 New
                        0
                        I put up resistance as much as I could. And all the events, as if on a palm, passed before my eyes. I know what I'm talking about.
                        But the latter is possible only in the absence of material stratification of society. Don't even try to nod to the west. There are also a lot of people in a big dupe. Little things, like the love of abundant Swedes, have a little better, well, that's a little thing. The ruble is also superbly organized and has a sweet life. At the expense of others. So little, Rublyovka.
                        I agree with Mars about the moon. Don't fucking waste resources. We, sick on the head of the predators, will not be released beyond the orbit. As proved by 60 years of manned astronautics.
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 5 November 2020 18: 21 New
            +7
            Quote: your1970
            According to your logic-
            Either Putin is the protege of the oligarchy

            Yes, families and those involved. Everything else you wrote is just nonsense.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 5 November 2020 18: 45 New
              +6
              When the veil of "brace" dissipates, the "hedgehogs in the fog" will see that they are "horses" who have come "on the way" to the "fairyland", to the sausage shop. smile
            2. your1970
              your1970 5 November 2020 22: 33 New
              0
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: your1970
              According to your logic-
              Either Putin is the protege of the oligarchy

              Yes, families and those involved. Everything else you wrote is just nonsense.
              - let's analyze this type "nonsense".
              If Putin is a protégé of the oligarchy / family - he MUST to bring down the AHL (and it could be done quite easily).Otherwise, the oligarchy will not get a bun. - and this is already decades....
              The ideal variant for our oligarchy is Tikhanovskaya, which will definitely help to take the Belarusian industry into the pockets ...
              AHL is forced to resist privatization and our oligarchs - otherwise those Belarusians who believe in the AHL will turn their backs on it ...
              Instead of removing the AHL and helping Tikhanovskaya, Putin is doing strictly opposite - recognizes the results of the elections, promises to support the security forces and t / p. Does everything - that not the oligarchy needs ...
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 5 November 2020 22: 46 New
                +5
                Quote: your1970
                Instead of removing the AHL and helping Tikhanovskaya - Putin is doing exactly the opposite - he recognizes the election results, promises support for the security forces and t / p. He does everything that the oligarchy does not need ...

                Tikhanovskaya is a direct road to the European Union, and they have strict money laundering.
                The situation in Belarus was partly provoked by our "far-sighted", like, to scare, to be more accommodating, but again they did not calculate the consequences.
                It will be difficult for you, but you can imagine how the opg subjugates the fin. streams? And to make it finally clear to you, look who stood at the origins of the citizen's career in civilian life.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 6 November 2020 08: 19 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Tikhanovskaya is a direct road to the European Union, and they have strict money laundering.

                  What do you mean ????? Straight strictly, strictly ???? Oh how ....
                  Remind me - what technology was used by one of the French presidents to take money from Gaddafi, whose regime was recalled by the dictatorial and supporting terrorists? And what sanctions were applied to this president? You never know suddenly they put him in jail, but I missed ...
                  The EU is fighting money laundering strictly against those persons who need to be drowned ... let alone corruption ... Bees against honey is about the EU too

                  I won't even go far.
                  Suffice it to recall the case of BAB against Abramovich - the judge's son received half a pound, she knew about it and was must take a rejection. Yeah, schaz ...
                  Was a judge punished for a corrupt decision? Uh-huh ... BAB also apparently thought that they were fighting corruption, but he would have thrust a bribe, you look Abramovich would have lost the process
        2. karpusha
          karpusha 6 November 2020 13: 40 New
          0
          What other social justice are you writing about? Here even the laws for ordinary people no longer work. Complete lawlessness is happening. And instead of the aligarhs, we have the Lukashenka family with nasty businessmen.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 5 November 2020 09: 22 New
        -3
        Quote: Stroporez
        it is necessary to spread rot according to yours. prala?

        It is necessary to make sure that Belarus itself goes to Russia, to build on the territory of Russia "BelAZ", and on the territory of Belarus KAMAZ.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 5 November 2020 09: 43 New
          11
          Quote: tihonmarine
          It is necessary to make sure that Belarus itself goes to Russia, to build on the territory of Russia "BelAZ", and on the territory of Belarus KAMAZ.

          In order for Bolorussia, like other republics to go to Russia, it is necessary to create a successful economic and social project and show an outstanding example of real growth.
          And now what can we offer them, besides examples of embezzlement and hellish social policy.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 5 November 2020 18: 58 New
            +6
            The change of Duremar to Karabas-Barabas is definitely not interesting for Belarusians.
      5. Icarus
        Icarus 5 November 2020 09: 49 New
        +1
        He asked to BUY, and not "squeeze" or squeeze out, unlike the local oligarchs.

        The fact of the matter is that the oligarchs are "local" (you can squeeze them a little when you need it or want to), while Belarus is still a subject of interstate relations with which (subjects) previously concluded all kinds of production sharing agreements (in fact, payment indemnity). From what point, our guarantor decided to sell (give for use) "Kemskaya volost"?
      6. Amba412
        Amba412 5 November 2020 16: 29 New
        +2
        So far, minerals belong to the state. And all companies, regardless of their status, pay for their development to the treasury. No matter how we all feel about Putin, it was his abolition of the PSA in 2004 that made him an enemy of the entire West. And at the same time it filled the treasury at least a little. Under the great democrat Elkin, more than two hundred oil and gas fields were generally withdrawn from the jurisdiction of Russia. By the way, the author of the law by which this became possible was the great economist Yavlinsky. In those years, Brits brought whores from London to Sakhalin and put it in the production costs that Russia paid
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 5 November 2020 18: 19 New
          +8
          Quote: Amba412
          No matter how we all feel about Putin, it was his abolition of the PSA in 2004 that made him an enemy of the entire West. And at the same time it filled the treasury at least a little. Under the great democrat Elkin, more than two hundred oil and gas fields were generally withdrawn from the jurisdiction of Russia.

          Everything would be fine if it were the way you wrote it. I will give you a simple example of gas, the Russian Federation supplied, according to its reporting to Germany, for example, 100 million cubic meters of gas, and the Federal Republic of Germany received 150 million cubic meters of gas in its reporting. , the question is, how can this be and where is the money?
          The second point is that you need to clearly understand what shareholdings are filled and who has them. The third moment, gas and oil are delivered over the hillocks through numerous linings of offshore daughters and sons, and there is still a completely opaque Sechin feed trough of Rosneftegazzzz.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 5 November 2020 19: 01 New
            +4
            where's the money?

            "They drowned." (FROM)
    2. Hypertension
      Hypertension 5 November 2020 12: 34 New
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      But I understand him, uses the moment to squeeze out of his ally to the maximum

      Yes, it seems that now is not the time to present any conditions and proposals to Russia.
      Well, this is crazy at all. They have built a nuclear power plant for him, and he is already getting used to oil fields.
    3. Errr
      Errr 5 November 2020 13: 05 New
      0
      Subsoil trade is nothing more than trade in sovereignty.
  2. halpat
    halpat 5 November 2020 07: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: ASAD
    As in a song from youth, GIVE! GIVE GIVE GIVE

    Not trying for himself !! For Kolya !!
    It will still unfold in Belarus, and so it will have something to live on :))
    And the money for the purchase of the "big brother" MUST give too.

    Well, since they refused to anoint Grygorych First. Already with whom I did not peregovar.
    The conversation is not about the purchase of a piece of land or mineral resources by Belarus from Russia.
    Aktsionernae society, individuals. And of course in the interests of the union state. And then about the interests of the allied ... it will be possible to blur it, quietly.
    1. Artyom Khromov
      Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 07: 56 New
      +9
      When Belarus is part of Russia, then we'll talk.
      1. halpat
        halpat 5 November 2020 08: 04 New
        -2
        Quote: Artyom Khromov
        When Belarus is part of Russia, then we'll talk.

        Vova ?? IT'S YOU???
        wassat
        laughing
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 5 November 2020 08: 46 New
          -1
          Who else is he? Who else can say that?
          Didn't know that HE was registered on the site.
          Curious, under what nickname is its interpreter registered?
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 5 November 2020 09: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Artyom Khromov
        When Belarus is part of Russia, then we'll talk.

        True, but everything starts small, when you need to start, and not talk to the talking shop.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 5 November 2020 19: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Artyom Khromov
        When Belarus is part of Russia, then we'll talk

        And then why does he need a deposit in Russia? Unless in Chechnya they can try to grab some land, and there is oil there or in Bashkiria laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 5 November 2020 23: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Silvestr
          Is that in Chechnya can try to grab the land and oil

          And what's the point .. Ingushetia has already declared itself bankrupt, next in line is Chechnya and other subsidized regions of the Russian Federation .. not in the horse feed .. or they drag everything so that no natural resources are enough ..
  3. Deniska999
    Deniska999 5 November 2020 08: 18 New
    -3
    Let him take it in exchange for an indefinite lease by Russia of Belarus.
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 5 November 2020 09: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Deniska999
      Let him take it in exchange for an indefinite lease by Russia of Belarus.

      Better to be silent in a rag, otherwise it will negotiate with the Tribals, and there Tihanovskaya will happily put an end to sticking the LGBT flag into the Arab League wink
  4. Civil
    Civil 5 November 2020 09: 05 New
    +4
    What a cunning multi-vector barbel ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 5 November 2020 23: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: Civil
      What a cunning multi-vector barbel ...

      Multi-way and multi-vector .. symbolic ..
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 5 November 2020 07: 16 New
    0
    Vladimir Putin supported this idea. After elaboration, the issue will be discussed in more detail during the next negotiations.

    Well, you have to break through yourself and tell the other anecdote.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 5 November 2020 07: 44 New
      -2
      I am changing the oil field to the territory of Belarus with everything due ..
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 November 2020 08: 15 New
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        I am changing the oil field to the territory of Belarus with everything due ..

        Are you sure that something belongs to you here, besides the wallpaper on the wall of the apartment?
        1. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 5 November 2020 09: 07 New
          -2
          Quote: Stroporez
          Are you sure that something belongs to you here, besides the wallpaper on the wall of the apartment?

          This is your apartment, and your wallpaper laughing wink
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 5 November 2020 18: 13 New
            +2
            Not on your nelly. They will take it out of "their apartment" into the lung, if the bourgeois authorities have such a whim. To sue, everything is the same as with the concrete slab. Take a shotgun - they'll put you down like a terrorist. There was already a precedent in Moscow, the whole village was evicted. No one bothered with documents for houses and plots, for people. And this is also, with Luzhkov, quite modest by today's standards. In other regions, probably the same stories happened and are happening.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 5 November 2020 23: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: 210ox
          I am changing the oil field to the territory of Belarus with everything due ..

          Are you sure that something belongs to you here, besides the wallpaper on the wall of the apartment?

          And then doubts .. if an apartment for housing and communal services debts is put up for auction .. then you won't have time to tear off the wallpaper ..
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 5 November 2020 23: 41 New
            +6
            Quote: Svarog
            And then doubts .. if an apartment for housing and communal services debts is put up for auction .. then you won't have time to tear off the wallpaper ..

            This is not the point, but the fact that the ceiling walls and so on in the house are collective property, so personal is only wallpaper.)
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 5 November 2020 23: 44 New
              +2
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: Svarog
              And then doubts .. if an apartment for housing and communal services debts is put up for auction .. then you won't have time to tear off the wallpaper ..

              This is not the point, but the fact that the ceiling walls and so on in the house are collective property, so personal is only wallpaper.)

              well, yes .. in this situation ..) we have papers again on debts for housing and communal services hung up .. forgot to photograph .. tough, 70% of them should be 20 percent over 150 tons .. and half more than 50 .. Soon or massively evict everyone will start or an amnesty for rent will be announced .. I think the second is more realistic ..
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 5 November 2020 23: 52 New
                +5
                Quote: Svarog
                take pictures .. tin, 70% of them should be 20 percent over 150 tons .. and half more than 50 ..

                The fact is that housing and communal services are profitable even with 50% non-payments, and the profitability of housing and communal services, by virtue of their obligation and independence from market conditions, exceeds the profitability from mining!
                If you look closely at the payments, you will find that the money goes to the correspondent accounts, i.e. further straight to offshore. For example, the water utility of our city belongs to. Virginia offshore.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 5 November 2020 23: 56 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Quote: Svarog
                  take pictures .. tin, 70% of them should be 20 percent over 150 tons .. and half more than 50 ..

                  The fact is that housing and communal services are profitable even with 50% non-payments, and the profitability of housing and communal services, by virtue of their obligation and independence from market conditions, exceeds the profitability from mining!
                  If you look closely at the payments, you will find that the money goes to the correspondent accounts, i.e. further straight to offshore. For example, the water utility of our city belongs to. Virginia offshore.

                  Hmm .. good feeding trough .. well settled at our expense. But they will stop paying 90% at such a rate, I think that time is not far off ...
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 6 November 2020 00: 12 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Hmm .. good feeding trough .. well settled at our expense. But they will stop paying 90% at such a rate, I think that time is not far off ...

                    I seriously enough dealt with this topic and for me non-payment is a form of personal protest! angry
    2. Artyom Khromov
      Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 07: 58 New
      +2
      It seems to me that our daddy falls into childhood little by little. As this srach settles in Belarus, it is necessary to replace him as planned. And then it will become obscene right on the throne.
      1. karpusha
        karpusha 6 November 2020 13: 42 New
        +1
        How I like these comments. They themselves are ready to get into the internal affairs of Belarus up to their ears, but at the same time they shout that the West should not interfere in the internal affairs of another country. You can interfere yourself, but others cannot. Laughter and nothing more. Belarus will float away from you, already floated away.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 5 November 2020 07: 18 New
    +2
    Alexander Lukashenko started talking about the idea of ​​acquiring an oil field in Russia.

    How AGAIN!?!?!?
    He has ideas, but will he do the job? Is everything so good and blissful in the country?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 5 November 2020 07: 23 New
      +7
      There was talk about transferring an oil refinery under our roof. Yes, something is silent about that. Maybe we will wave without looking at the well. Why, the oligarchs give the kids wells for nothing. They obliged our governors to buy Belarusian goods, then they will oblige someone to sell or change a well. And at the expense of the constitution ... whatever one may say, but our bowels do not belong to the people, but to those who have a more insolent face.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 November 2020 07: 27 New
        +6
        If they want, then they will find a plausible pretext ... we already do not even need to create the appearance of agreement, understanding! they no longer need it.
        That's the way it is.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 5 November 2020 07: 29 New
          +5
          There is such a letter ... Now it slipped through about the plant, not long ago, and no one even remembers. And about the deposit slipped, tomorrow everyone will forget again, and he will quietly sign, no one will know.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 5 November 2020 07: 40 New
            +2
            So everything is for a "reliable ally", nothing is a pity!
            And then again and again, "tail" in different directions will begin to twist or even wiggle something ... he was broken off by multi-vectors, but this is not forever ...
            Well, such people remember, they cannot understand, but something else ... what little things, he himself is the same.
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 5 November 2020 07: 45 New
              -4
              So everything is not a pity for a "reliable ally"!
              I think it's not about the allies, but about the interests. There would be a father from us for two borders, ours would spit on his multi-vector. And here it is, close by. And please nadot until he wagged his tail.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 5 November 2020 07: 47 New
                +1
                There are interests, military and political ... but also about the friendship of peoples, it is not wise to simply discount it.
                1. NDR-791
                  NDR-791 5 November 2020 08: 10 New
                  +2
                  It goes without saying. Only often politicians interfere with this friendship. We served in the late 80s, there was a friendly department. And now we communicate with each other and with our company commander. And we go to visit. Previously, people used to go to Lisichansk, but now they only go to Vatsap, this is the policy ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 5 November 2020 08: 22 New
                    +1
                    So bros were everywhere, from the Baltic states to ... there were no such borders!
                    Although, there is something that I do not want to remember ... then it was already in the 70s. We didn’t think, didn’t guess what would come to this, straight edge, it’s dangerous to step up for it.
                2. Icarus
                  Icarus 5 November 2020 09: 55 New
                  -1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  There are interests, military and political ... but also about the friendship of peoples, it is not wise to simply discount it.

                  And the friendship of peoples with the bowels of one of the peoples should not be confused either.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 5 November 2020 10: 01 New
                    +2
                    Everything is possible if you are really friendly! In trouble and joy only together!
                    And when neither this nor that ... then there is no conversation.
                    1. Icarus
                      Icarus 5 November 2020 19: 51 New
                      0
                      I agree. But now it is precisely that neither this nor that, or rather not at all together. And as long as the president is grygorych or the president is dependent on him, so it will be, since he is the hidden enemy of the Russians. At the same time, "multi-vector" is only a cover, but in fact - a stone in the bosom. Isn't it time to put the question squarely to the Belarusians? After all, small countries and peoples will never have full sovereignty. Let it be determined with whom they are, with us, as part of a single nation, or with our geopolitical opponents. At the same time, I would not like to pose the question: "who is not with us is against us" (I have a cousin - she left for permanent residence in Belarus back in 1990). But at this historical stage, the question of the orientation of the Belarusians, unfortunately, is exactly that. "Emptiness" (neutrality) will necessarily be filled with either Russophobia or Russianness, there is no third way. The Russians in the Baltic states also voted for sovereignty from the USSR at one time. In Europe, they wanted to live. So they are reaping the fruits of betrayal - non-citizens, half a step left for them to untermenschen (subhumans).
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 5 November 2020 20: 20 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Icarus
                        And as long as the president is grygorich or is dependent on him, it will be so, since he is the hidden enemy of the Russians

                        He is an open friend of himself, a gratifier of his ego! And since he was the chairman of the collective farm, he remains so, forever ... I couldn't think of anything smarter than to bite the hand that gives, and to play nationalist games, to portray them as ... someone, nationalist!
                        And this is not a double-edged sword, moreover, on such a tight elastic band !!! So Ana comes back, but she tries to drive in on her face!
                        All the previous history is straight screaming, reminds of it !!!
                        But someone, you see, skipped history, everything in the fields, gardens, barns ... all in the worries, pressing, in short.
                      2. Icarus
                        Icarus 5 November 2020 20: 44 New
                        +2
                        Maybe you are right that he is not an enemy to us, but simply such - a friend to himself - an egocentric. But something tells me that being born from the Chernihiv region, "independence" was absorbed into it with mother's milk. Time will tell. However, time is not our ally in this case. Filing in the form of a loan has already failed once. It has not worked even now (1,5 billion), just as the oil field will not work either. If we give up any oil field to Belarus, does it mean other countries can do the same? A kind of Pandora's box. We must fight for the minds of Belarusians, and not buy them at the expense of our subsoil.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 5 November 2020 22: 25 New
                        +2
                        The grave will fix the humpbacked ... some need to leave on time, an acceptable option.
                  2. pro100y.belarus
                    pro100y.belarus 6 November 2020 21: 37 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Icarus
                    After all, small countries and peoples will never have full sovereignty. Let be

                    Even so. What about the Finns? Separated from RI. The border is near. They even fought with the USSR. They lost, but they did not become part of it, they were not even occupied.
                    The people are small, there are no minerals. BUT LIVE the same. And they do not live in poverty.
                    And sovereignty is all right.
          2. 41 REGION
            41 REGION 5 November 2020 09: 13 New
            +1
            Quote: NDR-791
            And please nadot until he wagged his tail.

            Who needs it, cut off oxygen, don't let Rostov into Rostov laughing they have been waiting for him in Poland for a long time wink
        2. Amba412
          Amba412 5 November 2020 16: 33 New
          +1
          So both the plant and the well will be able to break off. This is such a strict dog leash did not lie nearby
  • Essex62
    Essex62 5 November 2020 18: 16 New
    -1
    And what's wrong with him.? He pressed the counter to the nail and further for the country and people trying
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 5 November 2020 18: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Essex62
      And what's wrong with him.? He pressed the counter to the nail and further for the country and people trying

      Boom to see the result.
      It's straightforward, nothing happens just like that ... they are multi-vectors, like a stick, they have two ends!
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 5 November 2020 19: 07 New
        -2
        The main thing is the intermediate result. Although some of his steps are very dangerous, subtle. Rope walker. Until it thundered. I agree, we'll take a look. It may well be overwhelmed that for the inhabitants of Belarus, reasonable, it will turn out bad.
  • tarabar
    tarabar 5 November 2020 07: 21 New
    +2
    It smacks of the scheme of the 90s called "loans-for-shares auctions", borrow from the state, buy an asset from the state with this money and gradually pump and give, or not give, as you are lucky.
    1. Artyom Khromov
      Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 08: 01 New
      +3
      Is it possible to sell mineral resources according to the constitution? In my opinion, only lease the land.
      A request follows a request .... and when will the proposals so necessary for Russia follow.
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 5 November 2020 08: 19 New
        +3
        the constitution is for the people, and for them it is just toilet paper.
      2. tarabar
        tarabar 5 November 2020 08: 33 New
        +1
        The "purchase of fields" probably means lease and obtaining the right to produce oil in a specific area. Quite a logical scheme: the purchase of a certain Russian oil and gas with equipment, personnel and the necessary licenses and permits, renaming it into Belarusneftegaz with 100% participation of Belarus. Further, by an interstate agreement or on a commercial basis, this company will be provided with oil fields for development. Of course, all the deductions to the budget of the Russian Federation for lease payments, mineral extraction tax, etc., plus the payment of Transneft for pumping oil from production sites to Belarus. As a result, the Russian Federation receives all payments due to the budget, Belarus receives oil at the price it dreamed of - the price at the production site + pumping. Only the domestic oil industry is in the red.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 5 November 2020 07: 24 New
    +4
    What is a "deposit"? Territory, reserves?
    And how many tens of kilometers can you drill from it?

    All this is nonsense and impossible in principle and there is no such thing anywhere. Perhaps we are talking about joint development of the RUSSIAN deposit.
  • Far B
    Far B 5 November 2020 07: 26 New
    0
    If this is so, then the question arises: "What, was it possible?"
    Considering that our deposits are actively used by various TNCs such as BP, Total and other Shells, a counter question arises - "Why not ?!"
    At this point, either take off the cross, or put on panties, or to anyone other than yourself, your beloved, or to anyone who wants to. But, to be honest, I can’t believe the word at all in the option “to anyone but myself, beloved”.
    1. Artyom Khromov
      Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 08: 07 New
      +6
      Luke, whose Crimea?

      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 5 November 2020 11: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Artyom Khromov
        Luke, whose Crimea?

        I ask the moderator not to delete, not trolling. Where is Greg, where is Thrall. Why are they silent, are you afraid to get cons, you weaklings am
    2. Amba412
      Amba412 5 November 2020 16: 36 New
      0
      This is the main hitch! Development and ownership are two very big differences.
  • Artyom Khromov
    Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 07: 26 New
    13
    Sell ​​Mustache a lip-rolling machine .. maybe even at a discount and on credit, it won't be superfluous for him.
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 5 November 2020 07: 27 New
    +3
    AAA! I want it too! Yes, and probably many! All business then, take a couple of triliyards in debt and VALYA!
  • Well done
    Well done 5 November 2020 07: 35 New
    +2
    Here are clarifications on this topic
    https://iz.ru/1082910/2020-11-05/ekspert-prokommentiroval-ideiu-lukashenko-kupit-mestorozhdenie-nefti-v-rf
  • askort154
    askort154 5 November 2020 07: 39 New
    +1
    The press service of the President of Belarus reported that Alexander Lukashenko started talking about the idea that he had an idea to acquire an oil field in Russia.

    It is not the first year that he has voiced this "idea". Received a shock.

    Vladimir Putin supported this idea. After elaboration, the issue will be discussed in more detail during the next negotiations.

    What .... again "let's slime off" ?! He already has few loans, and preferential prices - give a "pacifier".
    Selling deposits means not thinking about future generations
    Russia. negative
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 5 November 2020 07: 40 New
    +9
    oh, our magazines # lushki ... NOT A PURCHASE OF A DEPOSIT))) AND A PURCHASE OF A LICENSE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SITE ... this is a normal practice, the excitement and comments are not clear ... why ExxonMobil or Shell there can buy licenses to form a joint venture and develop ... but Belarus is amazing here everything)))
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 5 November 2020 09: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      NOT THE PURCHASE OF THE DEPOSIT))) BUT THE PURCHASE OF A LICENSE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE

      What do you mean! Well this is such a cobbled excuse to poke around - how can you miss it because of some "subtleties" !? lol
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 5 November 2020 13: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      but Belarus is amazing here everything)))

      so they have been working for a long time there is such a company "Yangpur" ...
      The northernmost asset of Belorusneft operates in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District of Russia, and the main part of its own production is provided by the Metelnoe field ... Currently, in just one day, the Russian "daughter" of the Belarusian company produces 2,55 million cubic meters of natural gas and 200 tons of gas condensate. "This made it possible to additionally sell one million cubic meters of natural gas per day to the Gazprom system," the Russian asset of Belorusneft notes.
      https://sputnik.by/economy/20200615/1044925080/Belorusskaya-dochka-v-sutki-dobyvaet-na-Yamale-255-milliona-kubometrov-gaza.html
  • Charik
    Charik 5 November 2020 07: 41 New
    -2
    Do all the oil fields in the Russian Federation belong to the Russian Federation?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 5 November 2020 09: 36 New
      +1
      Yes. And the Russian Federation is selling licenses for the development of sites.
  • Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 5 November 2020 07: 46 New
    +1
    You can throw stones at me, but our bowels have long been in the hands of the non-patriots of the Motherland. Well, in this case, Old Man will produce fuels and lubricants, and not drive crude oil over the hill, as “our” effective managers do.
    1. Amba412
      Amba412 5 November 2020 16: 40 New
      +1
      He will drive oil and ukram products from it. There the margin is higher. And this is again the corpses in Donbass
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 5 November 2020 07: 50 New
    +4
    Fake, no more ... they made an elephant out of a fly ...
  • Artyom Khromov
    Artyom Khromov 5 November 2020 07: 57 New
    +2
    If only through association. And in the current situation - what are the goals? On a Russian loan? Or so? He wants to want something, but what will come of his wants is a big question.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 5 November 2020 09: 38 New
      0
      And in the case of unification, there is no point. Are the Krasnodar Territory or St. Petersburg buying licenses for the development of oil fields?
  • Woodman
    Woodman 5 November 2020 08: 01 New
    0
    Does he have money for the deposit? Or again in debt? Most likely this is just PR, they will talk and forget.
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  • BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 5 November 2020 08: 03 New
    -1
    And funny and not so funny. Oil-Belarus, Baikal-China, and Vasya in the cold
  • Toucan
    Toucan 5 November 2020 08: 06 New
    +3
    As I understand it, Lukashenka will ask Putin for another irrevocable loan to buy an oil field in Russia.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 5 November 2020 08: 15 New
    0
    According to the usual scheme: to borrow money from Russian pensioners, buy a well and, in the end, not repay the debt.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 November 2020 09: 31 New
      0
      wassat Th is it really Th? Does Lukashenka issue a pension to Russian pensioners?
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 5 November 2020 19: 08 New
        +4
        Colleague hi,
        Prigogine's "extras" have their own logic, not connected with the absent reason.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 5 November 2020 19: 11 New
          0
          Prigogine's "extras" have their own logic, not connected with the absent reason.

          I agree! But how many of those who are too lazy to wiggle their brains.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 5 November 2020 19: 17 New
            +5
            At the same time, the silence about the "barefoot fit" in the form of free dough and oil products to Dodon before the elections in Moldova, in the first round of which he was outstripped by opposition candidate Sandu, in support of which the European Union did not even need "cookies". They simply said that if the pro-Russian protege wins, they will make it difficult for Moldovans to enter the Schengen zone. Already even only the bureaucratic delays promised by the limitrophes have become more significant than the all-round support of the "Kremlin". request
  • Simfy
    Simfy 5 November 2020 08: 27 New
    +5
    Tikhanovskaya prepares "dowry"?) ... Yanukovych also left $ 3 billion before moving to Rostov to "receivers"
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 November 2020 08: 31 New
    -1
    In the Kara Sea, Gazprom got to a gas truck that he himself was "scared" by the performance of the skaazhiny, maybe we can change it for the whole of Belarus. And what prevents him from creating a joint company, I have the name "Forward, in the USSR".
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 5 November 2020 08: 34 New
    +1
    These two may be the greatest crooks, but they are definitely not fools. I personally await details from the Darkest One.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 5 November 2020 08: 48 New
    -2
    Well wait. They brought the man to the tundra. They showed a rusty metal mast and a fire hose. They said - in, zyr, deposit. And according to the money - count for free. So he fell for it. True, the technique is slightly outdated. I thought I stayed in the 90s. And look how it went. Pulled out of the chest, shook off the mothballs. And it worked.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 November 2020 08: 53 New
    -1
    Infa that Putin VV supported this project, now we are waiting for conditions. The devil is in the details.
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 5 November 2020 09: 03 New
      +2
      The devil is in the details.
      ... Not in detail, to amendments to the Constitution .. laughing
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 5 November 2020 09: 41 New
        +3
        All the subsoil belongs to the Russian Federation. And she, as the owner of the subsoil, issues licenses for the right to develop subsoil in specific areas. What is incomprehensible in this? But the Constitution does not say that the state must itself develop deposits and sell the extracted raw materials.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 5 November 2020 08: 53 New
    +4
    Tomorrow there will be a pro-Western politician in Belarus and it will turn out that Russia has been feeding the neighboring state in vain for 30 years.

    Enough to buy friendship for money and help, nobody appreciates it, we are simply used and Lukashenka is no friend to us, he also uses Russia for his personal selfish purposes !!!

    Your own people, your country should be made richer !!!

    Everyone wants to be friends with the rich, but they regard the good as fools and just use it !!!

    Not to sell any deposits to anyone, especially on credit. We have a lot of our companies, where our citizens work and pay taxes to our budget.

    Lukashenka has become insolent, he has been robbing Russia for 25 years, it's time to stop it !!!
    1. NI1
      NI1 5 November 2020 10: 32 New
      -3
      Whom is Lukashenka robbing? Is he like a thief at night in the bins of the Motherland climbs? No, he quite openly bargains and begs, but our officials just give the go-ahead to the left and right. Luca in this case even looks good! And what, for his people goes to the last, and our ears hung, twisted around a finger like suckers, but Lukashenka is to blame. )))

      Lukashenka will not sit on the throne forever. The time will come and he will leave, but Nicholas will not sit on the throne, and here a real pro-Western leader will come. Just like in / in Ukraine. And what will we have in this case? Yes, Russia will become dependent on Belarus and its authorities: transit through them, they sold oil, they have weapons, they learned to bargain and milk Russia a long time ago and with high quality. Another multi-pass!
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 5 November 2020 13: 22 New
        -1
        If Lukashenka would have been for the people Russia and Belarus would have united long ago, Lukashenka will hold on to power to the last, and this will destroy himself and all his children.
      2. Amba412
        Amba412 5 November 2020 19: 52 New
        0
        When the onion began to use powdered milk, they broke off very quickly. First, sanitary inspection, and then people realized that Belarusian does not mean good. What will prevent you from continuing to break off. And in what way does Russia depend on Belarus? transit through Ust-Luga. Oil and gas shut off with a snap of your finger. What is the addiction?
        1. NI1
          NI1 6 November 2020 04: 50 New
          +1
          At least the fact that no one dares to block. The risks are too high. How long has the gas been cut off for someone? Ukraine? Well, we, according to the international court, also paid them billions of dollars in a rush and did not close the valve for a day. Who? Germany? Well, in Germany, the GDP is full of friends, it is he who can turn off the valve in Voronezh, but not for druzhbanov.

          Why lie to myself? Here's a simple example: Ukraine. Unfortunately, she is no longer a brother and a matchmaker to us. Now Russia has a headache, where to get fresh water for the peninsula, we are still bargaining with them, driving coal and gas at low prices, not world prices, but they continue to milk and hate us. What, isn't it? So. Because we are addicted.
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 5 November 2020 08: 54 New
    +2
    Something I didn’t understand - our guarantor started selling something that didn’t belong to him ??? Or, in 2021, we will again adjust the Constitution for a political moment ??? fool
    1. aglet
      aglet 5 November 2020 09: 32 New
      -3
      "Something I did not understand - our guarantor has begun to sell something that does not belong to him ??? Or, in 2021, we will again adjust the Constitution for a political moment ???"
      are you sure that in many amendments to the constitution, adopted in one package, this fact is not legalized? otherwise, why did the life-long guarantor promise to think about it? sands, then, will explain everything to us
      1. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 5 November 2020 10: 39 New
        +2
        As I understand it, you haven't looked through this "set" of amendments in half a year at your leisure, right? wink
        1. aglet
          aglet 5 November 2020 13: 23 New
          -1
          "As far as I understand, you haven't looked through this" set "of amendments in half a year at your leisure, right?
          What is the point if they have already been accepted, and even before I voted "against"? are you still studying what you voted for?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 November 2020 09: 00 New
    -6
    This is how it should be, Ukrainians learn! I played multi-vector, Grygorich, the fifth point got hot. It was not Russia that was to blame, but Western friends. He repented in time and will get access to Russian energy resources. for this idea. And I do not mind oil for the brothers of Belarusians, well they pressed the protestors, maybe they will have cheaper gas for it. And let the protestors expect billions from the guaidikha and terms for actions against the authorities. I see the process has already begun.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 November 2020 09: 27 New
      +2
      Reread your comment. You are not abusing Lukashenka, you are humiliating the geniuses of Russian politics.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 5 November 2020 09: 01 New
    +1
    Wah! You see how masterfully, in his own way, dad bargains!

    and all the experts wrote everywhere - the dad must be removed, the Kremlin will displace him, the dad has become obnoxious, does not want to pay as it should, he will pay for everything, and so on and so on.

    But in fact, exactly the opposite. Weapons were given, money was given, he continued to trade with Ukraine, oil pulls from everywhere on the cheap, 33 beaten up chopovts-chvkashnik are forgotten instantly ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 November 2020 09: 25 New
      +1
      So that is why gasoline is expensive in Russia, Lukashenka pulls.
  • Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 5 November 2020 09: 17 New
    +2
    It is hard for me to believe that the message of the AHL press service is true, because:
    Quote: The Law of the Russian Federation "On Subsoil" dated 21.02.1992 N 2395-1

    1.2 Article. Subsoil Property
    Subsoil within the borders of the territory of the Russian Federation, including underground space and minerals contained in the subsoil, energy and other resources, are state property. The issues of ownership, use and disposal of subsoil are under the joint jurisdiction of the Russian Federation and the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.
    Subsoil plots cannot be the subject of purchase, sale, donation, inheritance, deposit, pledge, or alienated in any other form. Subsoil use rights may be alienated or transferred from one person to another to the extent that their circulation is permitted by federal laws.
    Minerals and other resources extracted from the subsoil can be in federal state ownership, property of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, municipal, private and other forms of ownership under the terms of the license.

    1. Per se.
      Per se. 5 November 2020 10: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Ded_Mazay
      I hardly believe something
      Why so? Read the laws "shirshe", chapter 1, article 9, paragraph 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, - "Land and other natural resources can is in private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership. "Also, article 36, paragraph 2, -" Ownership, use and disposal of land and other natural resources is carried out their owners freely, if it does not harm the environment and does not violate the rights and legitimate interests of other persons. "

      And how can this be correlated with the national heritage, which, it seems, should be? The same diamonds, for example, can be mined by ourselves, but they will be sold by De Beers (an international corporation). You can get the forest yourself, or you can give the felling to the Chinese.

      The dad was attacked, but he did not come up with anything new.
      1. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 5 November 2020 13: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Per se.
        Read the laws "shirshe"

        You are absolutely right, the laws should be read "shirsh". True, "shirshe" here, obviously, should mean "taking into account other regulatory legal acts", and not in the sense of "interpreting how the left leg wants" ...

        Opens a commentary on the Constitution of the Russian Federation, edited by V.D. Zorkina and L.V. Lazarev.
        We find in it article 36, we find a paragraph with the following content:
        Quote: Commentary on the Constitution of the Russian Federation (edited by V.D.Zorkin, L.V. Lazarev)

        The provisions of Part 2 of Art. eight, Art. 9 and part 2 of Art. 36 Constitution are specified in Part 3 of Art. 129, part 3 of Art. 209, art. 212-215 GK. State ownership in the form of federal and subjects of the Federation on land, water, forests, fauna remains predominant, and on the subsoil - exclusive, which causes the spread of the requirements of Part 2 of Art. 36 not only for owners - citizens, but also for public owners of natural resources.

        To be sure of the correctness expressed in V.D. Zorkin and L.V. Lazarev's position, we open the specified articles of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation:
        Quote: Part 3 of Art. 129 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation Turnover of objects of civil rights

        3. Land and other natural resources may be alienated or transferred from one person to another in other ways to the extent that their circulation is permitted by the laws on land and other natural resources.

        Quote: Part 3 of Art. 209 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation Content of ownership

        3. Ownership, use and disposal of land and other natural resources to the extent that their circulation is permitted by law (Article 129) are carried out by their owner freely, if this does not harm the environment and does not violate the rights and legitimate interests of others.

        Quote: Part 3 of Art. 212 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation Subjects of ownership

        3. Specifics of Acquisition and Termination of the Right of Ownership to Property, possession, use and disposal of them, depending on whether the property is owned by a citizen or a legal entity, owned by the Russian Federation, a subject of the Russian Federation or a municipality, can only be established by law.
        The law defines the types of property that can only be in state or municipal ownership.

        Quote: Part 1 of Art. 213 Ownership of citizens and legal entities

        1. Citizens and legal entities may own any property with the exception of certain types of property, which, in accordance with the law, cannot belong to citizens or legal entities.

        Thus, the peculiarities of the legal regime of "subsoil" are regulated not by the Constitution of the Russian Federation directly, but by means of a number of legal acts, including the Civil Code of the Russian Federation and the very Law of the Russian Federation "On Subsoil".
        And the law "on subsoil", as we have already found out, limits subsoil in circulation and secures exclusive state ownership of them:
        Quote: The Law of the Russian Federation "On Subsoil" dated 21.02.1992 N 2395-1 Article 1.2. Subsoil ownership

        Subsoil within the borders of the territory of the Russian Federation, including underground space and minerals contained in the subsoil, energy and other resources are state property. Issues of ownership, use and disposal of mineral resources are jointly the responsibility of the Russian Federation and the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.
        Subsoil plots cannot be the subject of purchase, sale, donation, inheritance, deposit, pledge, or alienated in any other form. Subsoil use rights may be alienated or transferred from one person to another to the extent that their circulation is permitted by federal laws.
        Minerals and other resources extracted from the subsoil can be in federal state ownership, property of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, municipal, private and other forms of ownership under the terms of the license.


        So in order to understand the essence of the issue, one must not only read the constitution, but also the comments of experts to it.
      2. Errr
        Errr 5 November 2020 18: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Per se.
        The dad was attacked, but he did not come up with anything new.
        I thought of it! smile
        I draw your attention to clause 1 of article 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation:
        Land and other natural resources are used and protected in the Russian Federation as the basis of life and activities peoples living in the respective territory..
        and clause 1 of article 36 of the aforementioned Constitution:
        Citizens and their associations have the right to own land in private ownership.
        It is unlikely that in this case we mean any other citizens besides the citizens of the Russian Federation proper.
        Therefore, all these ideas regarding the sale of mineral resources "in good hands" are absolutely illegal.
  • French108
    French108 5 November 2020 09: 17 New
    +2
    The idea is good. Naturally, the field should be on the Crimean shelf. Let them explore and buy the rig. But all only after the official recognition of Crimea, Abkhazia, Ossetia, etc.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 5 November 2020 09: 24 New
    0
    You read the comments and just a song. The country is ruled by Obama, Trump, Zelensky, Lukashenko, it is they who raised the retirement age, arrange inflation in the country, bring in magomedarbeiters and so on. And the Kremlin, as always, has nothing to do with it.
    In the end, for a thinking person, you can clearly ask for anything, but the Kremlin makes gifts.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 5 November 2020 11: 41 New
      +1
      Sorry so you buy cheeses and wine from Argentina with this mode? What a panic, for the next elections prepare a whitening bus for a candidate who will promise you a happy life.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 5 November 2020 11: 57 New
        +2
        Alas, Argentine cheeses have been in short supply for some time now, mainly SZMZh cheeses. Therefore, every time I manage to buy Argentine cheese I am happy as a child.
  • NI1
    NI1 5 November 2020 09: 25 New
    +2
    How pleasant it is to read such news and comments to it again! Our wise leader, the father of the nation and the Tsar received an offer from our native Belarus, which only a fool will refuse - to sell mineral resources to another state.
    I am sure that a little more time will pass and all the leaders of the countries who respect, fear and honor our Vladimir Vladimirovich will line up and beg to sell them gold deposits, gas, water and other resources. Perhaps the leader of some Muslim country will ask to sell human resources. Why not?! Women and girls in a harem, children and men in brick factories.
    Every smart person understands that we should live in peace and harmony with everyone. We must help countries in need and their citizens. Yes, and good in our country is abundant, it is not worth being greedy, it is necessary to do! )))
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 5 November 2020 09: 28 New
      +1
      And you spread your ears under the Belarusian pasta wider - and you will not hear that. lol
      1. NI1
        NI1 5 November 2020 10: 22 New
        +3
        Okay, let's do it differently. Let's look at the real things: Whose money is the BelNPP with and by whom is it being built? The correct answer: Russia gave a loan to Belarus and is building it with its own money. Then Belarus will receive a nuclear power plant, a loan, which, of course, will be written off, like many others. This has happened more than once.
        Akkuyu - a nuclear power plant in Turkey. Yes, the situation is similar. Russia gives a loan to Turkey, the Turks hire us for our own money to build a nuclear power plant for them, in time we will be sent to hell, we will forgive the debts, we will leave the nuclear power plant as a gift, we will go home with a knife in our back. Have you forgotten how you got off with tomatoes? ))) Then it makes sense to continue about the supplied weapons, loans, etc., when they were waiting for us, and then sent? How many were written off to the same Armenians? Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Serbs and more. All the brothers were!
        1. aglet
          aglet 5 November 2020 13: 33 New
          0
          "For the same Armenians, how much did they write off? Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Serbs, etc. All the brothers were!"
          you forgot about blacks from africa. who really were brothers to the guarantor
  • Peter rybak
    Peter rybak 5 November 2020 09: 37 New
    +1
    Sale of mineral deposits), and as I understand it, this is what we are talking about, another state requires at least a popular referendum. This time. Lukashenko will not last forever. We can say that it is not at all eternal, it is not even close to eternal. Who will take his place, what kind of relations will we have with Belarusians? Maybe they will join the EU, maybe NATO. And then what? The bowels of Russia will be used by NATO. Vova amazes me sometimes.
    1. aglet
      aglet 5 November 2020 13: 36 New
      0
      "The bowels of Russia will be used by NATO. Vova amazes me sometimes."
      germany, turkey, poland and all sorts of denmark and estonia are not members of nato? and the bowels of Russia are already in full use. and Vova does not even surprise me. used to
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 5 November 2020 09: 52 New
    +3
    The illiteracy of some commentators is off scale. As a dilettante in military affairs, I go to this site for general development, to get information on military issues. But sometimes doubts are laid: if the authors of published articles and comments on general civil topics make a bunch of blunders, publish fakes (like Podymov's recent article on the "ban" of privatization in the PRC; and there is enough conscience not to apologize to readers for misinformation), show ignorance of the legislation, history, etc., then perhaps their opinion on the development of weapons and armed forces should also be treated with caution?
  • iouris
    iouris 5 November 2020 10: 09 New
    -1
    "Inspiration is not for sale, but you can sell the manuscript ..." And in parts. You can also exchange the field for a naval base on the shores of the Belarusian Sea ... There are many options.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 November 2020 10: 10 New
    +2
    Sale of not resources, but subsoil? To which, by the way, the citizens of Russia for some reason have no right. If this is not stuffing, then the situation is simply beyond the brink of cynical betrayal. You have to shoot for this.
    1. NI1
      NI1 5 November 2020 10: 24 New
      +2
      Who should be shot in this situation? Can you give a last name?
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 5 November 2020 23: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Sale of not resources, but subsoil? To which, by the way, the citizens of Russia for some reason have no right. If this is not stuffing, then the situation is simply beyond the brink of cynical betrayal. You have to shoot for this.

      So it has long been clear that they have an attitude towards the state as a personal one. And the laws work only for the layman, and when he needs to be punished ..
  • faterdom
    faterdom 5 November 2020 10: 30 New
    -1
    Shchaz, yapps with the Northern Territories will catch up. They say they are also ready to exchange them for an oil field.
  • Selenium
    Selenium 5 November 2020 10: 36 New
    -3
    He has already bought it in Venezuela, but a spoonful of local oil is hurting his mouth. It does not work in any way.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 5 November 2020 10: 37 New
    0
    It is doubly interesting if Lukashenka's initiative fits into the purchase of an oil field from Russia for the funds of a Russian loan.


    It is triple interesting that the Russian people will never see either the loan repayment or the payment for the deposit.
    But we will continue to yell about the grandfathers fought for our descendants ..

    In reality, it is easier to divide this 1/6 part of the land into several dozen states ..
    Then at least, with a small population, it will be possible to know what really is in the depths for the people, and it will be possible to find someone to ask about it .. And now our rulers already live on another planet, and are completely divorced from the people and any responsibility ..
    1. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 5 November 2020 15: 17 New
      14
      Quote: Roman070280
      It is triple interesting that the Russian people will never see either the loan repayment or the payment for the deposit.

      do you see any of the above now?
      Quote: Roman070280
      But we will continue to yell about the grandfathers fought for our descendants ..

      yes, my grandfathers fought and won. and I am proud of THEIR victory.
      Quote: Roman070280
      In reality, it is easier to divide this 1/6 part of the land into several dozen states ..

      fig without butter to everyone.
  • A.K.
    A.K. 5 November 2020 10: 43 New
    0
    Lukashenka refused to sell us the MZKT, and he himself swung at the whole deposit. What shishi?
    1. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 5 November 2020 15: 14 New
      +9
      Quote: A.K.
      What kind of shisha?

      on state. he wants to buy with state money, in the interests of Belarus.
      1. A.K.
        A.K. 5 November 2020 16: 25 New
        +1
        I wonder where the state has got the money to buy entire deposits if it takes loans from Russia.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 5 November 2020 10: 50 New
    0
    Probably, the idea is to lease out some undeveloped field to Blr, so that Blr will attract Russian specialists to develop this field and itself will deal with the pricing of the extracted raw materials after all this and paying taxes.
    But in general, yes, the scheme is unclear, and after the "corrections" it generally strikes at sarcasm.
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 5 November 2020 10: 57 New
    0
    Well, in the sense of giving, and so that the Russian Federation to the Republic of Belarus also stretches a pipe at its own expense, but the Republic of Belarus must nevertheless remain a sovereign state.
    Am I confused anything?
    1. aglet
      aglet 5 November 2020 13: 41 New
      +2
      "And so that the Russian Federation to the Republic of Belarus also stretches a pipe at its own expense, but the Republic of Belarus must nevertheless remain a sovereign state."
      China remained sovereign, and Turkey and Bulgaria. but after all, everything, the pipe, the Russian Federation at its own expense pulled to them
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 November 2020 11: 12 New
    +2
    In oil production, both field and transportation are essential. Let them develop the deposit, invest in its development, pay excise taxes and transport them to their homes. There is nothing wrong with that. On a common basis with Russian companies.
  • Pavel Patrashov
    Pavel Patrashov 5 November 2020 11: 31 New
    +2
    Belarusneft ..., operates in Western Siberia, rent wells ... and no need to buy ...
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 November 2020 11: 32 New
    0
    There are no problems to create an interstate company, but you will have to pay for everything like Russian oilmen pay for. The option for the cost of oil production to the border with Belarus will not work, when the numbers are presented, he will refuse.
  • yfast
    yfast 5 November 2020 11: 45 New
    +1
    Lukashenka is going to dump the well from his country? It's cold there, and no infrastructure, let him go to Rostov, let him buy a vegetable garden.
    1. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 5 November 2020 15: 12 New
      11
      He will not "dump" anywhere. he is the legally elected president and is not going to run, do not confuse him with Yanukovych.
      1. yfast
        yfast 5 November 2020 15: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Nemo1976
        He will not "dump" anywhere. he is the legally elected president and is not going to run, do not confuse him with Yanukovych.

        Yanukovych was also legal. Why would he have a well, come, swim in oil, or with canisters?
  • flicker
    flicker 5 November 2020 12: 22 New
    -1
    “Was it possible?”: Lukashenka’s request to buy an oil field in Russia is being discussed online
    And why not?
    Belarus has heaps of money, they don't know where to put it laughing
    ---
    In exchange for Belarus. bully
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 November 2020 13: 35 New
    0
    laughing Daddy Kolya has a head of KU, KU. Once upon a time Russia wanted to enter the share of the Belarusian industry and we were sent. And for us this is important, there were only Belarusian super-heavy wheeled tractors in the army. KAMAZ had to master the production, and if to be honest, the relations reached such a level that we had to deal with import substitution of RB products. 

    Now the dad decided to boil on oil and ours happily nodded. Belarus is in debt to Russia where did they get the money to buy an oil field? Again, a cool question, what will Belarus do in response to Russia? Postpone the question of NATO base deployment for a month? We are being blackmailed and we are dancing, I would not say that we are paying indemnity. I have not a single complimentary post or comment about Lukashenka, except for the event when he sent Melpomene servants to free bread, who are at the expense of the state by force. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 November 2020 13: 37 New
    0
    More precisely - "About Russia's indemnity to a mustachioed Belarusian dog named" Rygorych ", half exhausted from the surprise of Belmaidan.

    The half-exhausted dog experiences an exciting feeling of happiness in half with horror. He was rescued and allowed to breathe, albeit with asthmatic wheezing. laughing On his knees, he is forced to endure the rapid formation in Belarus of two public pro-Russian associations, which tend to turn into full-fledged parties. This is an alternative to the flabby moldy Lukashism and the orange crazy Tyhanism ..... The shabby Kobelishko understands that the opposition to this will drop him with his family and the government cesspool (cesspool) from his knees into a state of "flat". laughing It is not in his precomatose state to try to dictate something to the Kremlin ...