Experts believe that the Azerbaijani army is making a mistake trying to reach Shusha and Stepanakert

The situation in Karabakh testifies to the fact that hostilities in one of its segments are moving into the format of sabotage operations. Both sides began to accuse each other not only of shelling civilian targets, but also of carrying out or attempting to carry out sabotage attacks.

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan announced the prevention of attempts by the Armenian troops to conduct a reconnaissance and sabotage operation.
From the summary:

On November 4, an attempt to sabotage the enemy against our units in the Zangilan region of the Armenian-Azerbaijani state border was resolutely suppressed.

It is stated that the reconnaissance and sabotage group suffered losses and was forced to retreat.

The day before, the Armenian military department accused the enemy of attempting to carry out a sabotage operation on one of the sections of the important route Berdzor (Lachin) - Shushi (Shusha) in NKR. The press service of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia stated that several sections of the road were blocked, and that Azerbaijani saboteurs were searched.

A few hours ago, the Armenian Defense Ministry issued a message about another shot down drone enemy. How exactly the drone was shot down is not reported.

Meanwhile, experts believe that the Azerbaijani troops are making a mistake, striving primarily not to take control of all seven regions around the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, but to reach the cities of Shusha and Stepanakert in the NKR itself. In particular, it is indicated that the advanced units of the Azerbaijani troops may be relatively distant from the main grouping, which can lead to the risk for them to be cut off by one precise and well-balanced strike. A separate question: is the NKR army capable of making such a blow today? So far, the situation, as already noted, is turning into a series of sabotage operations, at least attempts to carry them out.

It should be reminded that the Azerbaijani army has repeatedly fired at Stepanakert and has advanced in the direction of Shushi in the past few days. In other words, Azerbaijani troops are trying to simultaneously conduct hostilities to take control of both the territories around the NKR and the territories of the unrecognized republic itself.

Comments

[Dimon71]

I'm not catching up with something here. Who controls the site? Try to write the word ARCakh normally in Russian. As a comment, it is automatically banitsa. But if you drive in Karabakh, they miss it.

[Koval Sergey]

Quote: Dimon71

tuje

Also hurts the eye. It is written: right

[NTD]

Quote: Dimon71

I'm not catching up with something here. Who controls the site?

Dmitry, the name Artsakh, is the self-proclaimed name of the separatists. Calling Karabakh Dashshah or whatever it is Ar-tsa-khom, you are violating international law. There is no such republic not in maps, not in documents. Russia is officially for the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan and therefore the administration of the site removed the separatist name, but to be honest, the Artsakh principality was in history and belonged to the ancient Albanians, whose legacy was later passed on to the Armenian followers of pagan myrphology like Anahit and others. And the founder of this principality was an Albanian. Hasan Jalal Dovla. He is not an Armenian, although modern Armenians are doing their best to Armenianize him. In the era of the absence of independent sources and the absence of the Internet, the Armenians were able to push everywhere their myths about the first Christianity that Hasan Jalal is Jalalian.

[Revolver]

Quote: MTN

the founder of this principality was an Albanian. Hasan Jalal Dovla.

I'm not catching up a bit, but where is Albania and where is the Caucasus? And where did the Albanians come from in the Caucasus? They kind of like a place in the Balkans. Or is geography confused in my head?

[NTD]

Quote: Nagan

I don't catch up a bit, but where is Albania and where is the Caucasus? And where did the Albanians come from in the Caucasus?

on the territory of the Caucasus there was a state called Albania. Not that Albania in Europe, namely on the territory of the Caucasus and the capital of this state was the city of Barda (which is located on the territory of Azerbaijan)

Quote: Nagan

Or is geography confused in my head?

Yes you confused with another Albania)

PS. Look at their churches and you will be amazed at the inscriptions on the churches.

[Revolver]

This was not in the textbooks on the history of the USSR, and I taught history from those textbooks. And geography too. Here about the state of Urartu, which somehow had a sideways relationship to Armenia, was somehow mentioned there. Well thanks, it's always fun to learn something new.

[zollstab]

Here's a little more about Caucasian Albania https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavkazskaya_Albania.

[ism_ek]

Quote: zollstab

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кавказская_Албания

Have you read the text to the end? :) Have you looked at the map?

[NTD]

Quote: Nagan

This was not in the textbooks on the history of the USSR.

Of course it won't. This contradicts Russian policy at that time and it will turn out that these long-suffering ancient neighbors were not so ancient and indigenous. Read independent sources.

[Alexander Kopychev]

Russian policy has never been colonial-predatory. Is that Russified surnames were invented for everyone, in my opinion it is so vain. Freedom of Religion was welcomed, and the integration of local elites into the secular circle of the Russian nobility was carried out. But at the historical breaks and there were all sorts of "outrages", as well as today.

[Boris Chernikov]

"Russified" .. yeah, that is. that, in fact, the Russian language was used and the surnames were banally written in Russian .. already a terrible "Russification" .. provided that without Russia, half of the peoples and their writing would not have

[Two handed]

Therefore, all the Yakuts are Ivanovs and Petrovs)

[Boris Chernikov]

because it is more convenient) in the same way, in other countries, all in the end are called the names of the titular nation ... it's easier to be called Ivan than Uybaan ..

[Nagaibak]

MTN "Of course it won't. It's against Russian policy."
Another expert on Russian politics.))) And Azerbaijan is directly related to Albania?)))

[Vadim_888]

Azerbaijan is directly related to Albania?)))

Apparently they want to integrate

[icant007]

Quote: Nagan

This was not in the textbooks on the history of the USSR.

They weren't. Although it may have been, I personally do not remember.
In Soviet times, in addition to world history and the history of the USSR, Azerbaijan also had a course on the history of Azerbaijan.
It said there about Caucasian Albania.

I remember the history teacher Sevil Shakirovna) School No. 153 Baku.

[Yujanin]

I remember the history teacher Sevil Shakirovna) School No. 153 Baku.

Haha. School near the church. Hotel "Nakhichevan" (Hyatt Regency) Military town?

[icant007]

I - I, natural) I do not know what kind of hotel there is now. Has not been since 91 (

[monk2]

I can't remember if it was called Nakhichevan? He lived for two months until the apartment was given, but forgot the name - sclerosis!

[icant007]

There was a military hotel Salute and like the Red Vostok hotel (by the name of the town). But I remember Salute where, not far from the church and next to one of the checkpoints on a hill. And I don't remember where Red East is.
Nakhichevan hotel is probably outside the town, in the city itself.

[Oquzyurd]

"This was not in the textbooks on the history of the USSR." This could not be, since there was a total armenization of the South Caucasus under the tsar, and by inertia everything was preserved under the Bolsheviks, and continued development under the USSR. You probably don't know about this either ...
..... The decree of March 11, 1836 of His Imperial Majesty to the Governing Senate on the approval of the Regulation "On the management of the affairs of the Armenian-Gregorian Church in Russia"

This decree of Emperor Nicholas I regulates the position, rights and obligations of the Armenian Church in connection with the beginning of the mass resettlement of Armenians to the Caucasian lands. In particular, according to this decree, the Armenian newcomers and the Armenian Church were able to seize the property, churches, books and flock of the Albanian Autocephalous Church abolished by the imperial decree.

[saigon]

Let me explain to you this state existed in very ancient times, as a union of as many as 26 tribes, and in part of the territory of modern Azerbaijan, Georgia and Dagestan. After the disintegration, the people entered partly into the Dagestan peoples, partly into the peoples inhabiting the territory of modern Azerbaijan (namely the peoples, but not as an Azerbaijani ethnos, which at that time was not in fact).
Part of the Albanians joined the Georgian ethnos and part of the Armenian.
Everything was not long and ended its existence, it arose at the beginning of the 2nd century BC, this state was also called Arghvania.

[Nagaibak]

Nagant "This was not in the textbooks on the history of the USSR, and I still taught history from those textbooks."
In school, maybe it was not. Although I doubt it ... But in the institutes it was definitely said about Caucasian Albania.)))

[Peter queen]

Well, you are a brother, an Indian ..

[Nagaibak]

Peter Queen "Well, you are a brother, Indian .."
Who are you writing nonsense to?)))

[Keyser soze]

Calling Karabakh Dashshah or whatever it is Ar-tsa-khom, you are violating international law.

Hare smack nonsense - go and judge a colleague in Hage. There were experts in international law, damn it ... probably I haven't read one book on jurisprudence ...

And writing a new history is a favorite of 30-year-old states. Every historian will die laughing at your clumsy propaganda. Here people are literate in history and will not take them with stupidity.

[NTD]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Hare smack nonsense - go and judge your colleague in Hage.

Zhenya, I don't understand you with everything. You are like Bulgarians, yourself under Europe and the United States. Here for Russia, for those who are against your masters. Maybe first you will figure out who you are and then you will indicate here xy xy xy?

[Keyser soze]

Zhenya, I don't understand you with everything.

Zhenya?!? God, and how did I sin and live so that Turanian agitprop began to poke and call Zhenya?

Listen dear, change the manuals - they jar. Chiya used the cow not to moan and you talk about international law of seams. After the Syrian women, phosphorus and cluster bombs, your Aliyev should be dragged by the collar to Nuremberg and hanged as an accomplice of terrorists and a war criminal. If Edik does not dispose of it as unnecessary, of course.

[Oquzyurd]

"God, and how I sinned and lived" I'm also surprised. Hey, you, an expert in international law, who recently boasted about the expulsion of 500 thousand Turks from their homes in Bulgaria ??? After such ugly bragging, who are you poking around? An ethnonazik drives about international law ... no morality, no honor, absolutely nothing, emptiness ...

[Renator]

Quote: Oquzyurd

500 thousand Turks from their homes in Bulgaria ??

These Turks began to return everything back to Bulgaria, and in politics, the Turkish DPS party is eating well there.

[Vadim_888]

... Hey, you, a connoisseur of international law, who recently bragged about the expulsion of 500 thousand Turks from their homes in Bulgaria ???

Everything is simple with this, the Turks have run out of Bulgarian visa, so they asked to return home

[Oquzyurd]

Some day they may come to you to announce your expired visa. Believe me, if you have lived there for generations for a thousand years, it will not help, since you yourself deny the human right, in general. Simple, right?

[Renator]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Zhenya?

Eugene in Russian Zhenya

[Renator]

Quote: Keyser Soze

And writing a new history is a favorite of 30-year-old states. Every historian will die laughing at your clumsy propaganda.

Eh Zhenya Zhenya, where is the history of Bulgaria from the 14-19th century? But true and not propaganda! Well, now tell me how the Turks exterminated you, but they could not do it for 5 centuries

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Renator

Quote: Keyser Soze

And writing a new history is a favorite of 30-year-old states. Every historian will die laughing at your clumsy propaganda.

Eh Zhenya Zhenya, where is the history of Bulgaria from the 14-19th century? But true and not propaganda! Well, now tell me how the Turks exterminated you, but they could not do it for 5 centuries

Well, the Mongols also did not exterminate all the Russians, otherwise who would pay tribute to them? But you will not argue that the yoke was good?

[Chagan85]

RF is also a 30-year-old state

[Boris Chernikov]

and the "Albanians" themselves, where did they go ... and what does the Azerbaijanis have to do with it?) Don't you want to remember the "Albanization" of history either?) or the Azerbaijanis are too proud)

[pereselenec]

Quote: MTN

Calling Karabakh Dashshah or whatever it is Ar-tsa-khom, you are violating international law.

Artskhak Artskakh Artskhak Artskhak

[Garry]

Doesn't it seem to you an Azerbot that you have already got everyone with your "truth"? You have invented your own story, now you are selling it here, conducting soft propaganda.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

Ahti! And by using the names of the LPR and DPR, we also violate international law! Let's ban these separatists who violate the territorial integrity of Ukraine! After all, Russia does not recognize either the LPR or the DPR, for that it recognizes the international borders of Ukraine.
"Albanian. Hasan Jalal Dovla. He is not Armenian" -. Whether he is Armenian or not Armenian is a very controversial issue. The fact is that Caucasian Albanians are much closer to Armenians than to Azerbaijanis.

[Butchcassidy]

Dude, you consume something soooooo))) as if your dealer of ANAS)) Art.ts.akh is the ancient name of the province of the state of Armenia Magna, which included the territory of the former NKAO +.

Accordingly, the local Armenian population, as they see fit, calls their homeland. And keep your tales about the Albanians for yourself))) It's a pity, Hasan Jalal Dola Jalalyan did not know that after centuries the stoned marasmatics from Baku would declare him an Albanian. And in the Armenian language, built by him in the 13th century. Gandzasar Monastery wrote about everything that Baku "historians" and politicians do not like so much.

[Same lech]

So far, the situation, as already noted, is turning into a series of sabotage operations, at least attempts to carry them out.

Rumor has it Azerbadzhan's DRG entered the Lachin corridor.
And in general, I have a lot of questions about the composition of Azerbaijan's DRG ... what kind of people are there? ... Syrian mercenaries, Turkish proxies, Turkish special forces? ... They run too fast and brazenly there.

[NDR-791]

If they studied with us in Russia, they may well be smart and brazen even on their own.

[forest1]

Well, usually questions to the composition of the DRG are asked not on the Internet, but in person. They do not hold press conferences on the Internet.

[Same lech]

Well, usually questions to the composition of the DRG are asked not on the Internet, but in person. They usually don't hold press conferences on the Internet.

Everything is so ... but sometimes it is not necessary to meet with them in order to understand by the nature of sabotage activities who works there.
The intelligence services of different states usually have their own style of work, which cannot be confused with anything ... the same applies to the DRG.
For example DRG Tsakhal and DRG Iran differ from each other like heaven and earth.

[Chagan85]

Are you a DRG specialist?

[Ka-52]

Rumor has it Azerbadzhan's DRG entered the Lachin corridor.

DRG is from the word "nothing at all." Tk its very specificity is a sabotage operation such as mine a road or blow up a bridge. Therefore, "DRGs entered the Lachin corridor" it sounds menacing only for the inhabitants. Reconnaissance and sabotage groups probably run behind the front line on both sides, but with such a saturation of the terrain with troops, they often die than they have time to do something behind enemy lines.

[Same lech]

Therefore, "DRGs entered the Lachin corridor" it sounds menacing only for the inhabitants.

Well, let's leave it to the townsfolk ... the very fact of blocking an important transport artery is important ... so I want to clarify this, can someone from the members of the forum have information on this?

[Ka-52]

the very fact of blocking an important transport artery is important.

you will not block the artery by the DRG forces, neither this nor any other. DRG is an average of 8-12 people. Destroy them and that's all. Crushed by artillery, and then the infantry will finish off the survivors. Burning a small convoy, creating a panic in the rear, blowing up a railway / track or bridge, and then scrambling - these are the tasks of the DRG in terms of forces and goals. They have nothing to defend and have no need

[Same lech]

you will not block the artery by the DRG forces, neither this nor any other. Destroy the DRG and that's it.

Here the Armenians are just conducting an operation to find these same DRGs ... civilians were temporarily banned from traveling along the highway.
https://riafan.ru/1329721-den-38-i-karabakh-uspeshno-oboronyaetsya-azerbaidzhan-vvodit-rezervy?utm_source=warfiles.ru

[Ka-52]

Here the Armenians are conducting an operation there to find these DRGs.

Well, if the commander of the group is head-heavy, then he has been sitting at his base for a long time, while the Armenians are looking for their group in the forests. If he hesitated after the task, then they could sit on the tail and press. Will be drawn into the battle - the wounded and the dead will go, who either throw or drag. In the second case, there is already a minimum chance of exit

[nobody75]

The "Armenians" are patrolling the route with the help of the "Orlan 10" UAV, which is carrying out a specific reconnaissance of the RTR and adjusting artillery fire. The tie to the art through the ACS of the TZ, which indicates who was actually involved in the hostilities. "Constellation" has not sold its program to anyone, and they will not be given it.
The Azerbaijanis acted competently - they sent a drg with spotters ... But the "Orlan" tracked their negotiations when they adjusted the mortar fire. The group was covered with art. The Armenian militias are looking for bodies, maps, walkie-talkies, etc. The road was closed for civilians - so that they would not get stuck.
Sincerely

[ashot1973]

maybe someone from members of the forum has information on this?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=496310371329276
https://anna-news.info/eksklyuziv-boi-za-dorogu-stepanakert-lachin-eho-karabaha/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZcg2bJC-yQ

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Ka-52

Reconnaissance and sabotage groups probably run behind the front line on both sides, but with such a saturation of the terrain with troops, they often die than they have time to do something behind enemy lines.

[the finish]

In the video, everyone speaks Russian perfectly. And they said that the Armenians have forgotten the Russian language!

[Hypertension]

Quote: finish

In the video, everyone speaks Russian perfectly. And they said that the Armenians have forgotten the Russian language!

This is the older (Soviet) generation. And with young people, it seems, things are different. There are no Russian schools in Armenia?

[saigon]

Look at the age of these people, and the knowledge of our language will become clear, and many Armenians also speak Azerbaijani.

[Hypertension]

And where in this video is the destruction of the DRG or at least the body itself? We saw the Azerbaijanis, retreated, a couple of breaks on the wooded slopes, and then the driver tells how they destroyed this DRG. And this while the Azerbaijani Armed Forces show the real destruction of the enemy. To me alone, this "exclusive" seems unconvincing?

[Ka-52]

To me alone, this "exclusive" seems unconvincing?

in fact, yes, to you alone. Since shooting combat is no longer an easy task, but in a forest or mountains it is a hundred times more difficult. And here you don't really run around with the camera. And the videos of the Azerbaijanis are simply cutting of streaming video from drone cameras. You might be surprised, but drones have cameras that transmit images to the operator for direct control. Cutting a video out of them task for a student of grade 5

[Hypertension]

Quote: Ka-52

in fact, yes, to you alone.

Have you ever heard of a GoPro camera? And, for example, have you watched the video of the battle from Motorola in the Donbass? You can't run with a camera, yeah.
Well slicing and slicing, what's wrong with that? Shooting video can also be cut. Actually, such videos from the Armenians are in the Telegram. But this particular video is called strange and inappropriate to the content.

[Ka-52]

Have you ever heard of a GoPro camera?

What is it? Remedy for sweating armpits?

Have you watched the video of the battle from Motorola in the Donbass?

Motorola sat on the defensive and fought all battles in settlements. How often did you run in full gear in the mountains? And in the woods with a GoPro camera on a helmet?

[Hypertension]

Quote: Ka-52

What is it? Remedy for sweating armpits?

Is this such a "sparkling" joke or are you really so behind the times?

Quote: Ka-52

How often did you run around the mountains in full gear? And in the woods with a GoPro camera on a helmet?

What does the full calculation have to do with it? This camera weighs less than 200 grams. The forest is not a hindrance: https://t.me/voenacher/189?single
And it can be attached not only to the helmet, but also to the chest. And you can hold it in your hands. During the Second World War, the cameramen dragged and filmed something else with them.

[Ka-52]

Is this such a "sparkling" joke or are you really so behind the times?

it's tin ...

And it can be attached not only to the helmet, but also to the chest. And you can hold it in your hands.

Yes, yes, instead of raving, find a special forces officer and ask WHAT he worries about when going out on a mission to the mountains - take a camera with you or additional ammunition or power for radio stations. How to distribute the ammunition for the heavy among the fighters, who will carry the mortar or the Cliff, etc.

During the Second World War, the cameramen dragged and filmed something else with them.

During the Second World War, the operators had nothing in their hands except "Leica".

[Hypertension]

Quote: Ka-52

yes, yes, instead of raving, find a special forces officer and ask WHAT he cares about when going out on a mission to the mountains - take a camera with you or additional ammunition or food for radio stations

I do not see anything strange that one soldier should be given a light camera for reporting, and if he is lucky and there is a victory, then for propaganda.
They filmed in Chechnya, filmed in Afghanistan, and in Karabakh, do you see a 150-gram camera - an incredible burden. I brought the video. An Armenian DRG is filming in the forest in Karabakh.

[Ka-52]

Filmed in Chechnya, filmed in Afghanistan,

In Chechnya, 99% of videos are not about fighting, but about everyday life. Bearded fights were filmed for reporting to sponsors. And our soldiers did not carry any cameras.
I'm not talking about Afghan at all.

and in Karabakh, do you see a 150-gram camera - an incredible burden

not a burden. But the spetsnaz will not take it. The infantry is engaged in filming, but they usually do not take on the cleansing operations or, in extreme cases, are cordoned off the area.
Therefore, there are practically no real videos of battles in a clash of several opposing special forces groups. The special forces do not need to shoot a spectacular video for the bawlers on the network to rejoice, but to complete the task without loss.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Ka-52

In Chechnya, 99% of videos are not about fighting, but about everyday life.

At that time there were no portable cameras as there are now.
And Afghan ...

Quote: Ka-52

Therefore, there are practically no real videos of battles in a clash of several opposing special forces groups.

Not publicly available. And enough for internal use.
But why call a video so loudly, where there are neither footage of the battles themselves, nor the corpses of the enemy after? So anything and anyone can be "defeated".

[ashot1973]

[Quote] [/ quote]
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=496310371329276
...here!

[Konnick]

Imagine the DRG is walking along the ridge ... already nonsense ... below are the militia along the road and chatting with correspondents, so, 300-400 meters to them. Raikin's words are remembered ... we will not mark him, we will drink on him ...
Sensation, exclusive ... open your eyes

[saigon]

A strange feeling arises, the DRG sounds beautiful, and now they begin to glue the DRG brand on any unit of a small composition.

[Ka-52]

A strange feeling arises, the DRG sounds beautiful, and now they begin to glue the DRG brand on any unit of a small composition.

at all times, groups operating on enemy territory for the purpose of reconnaissance and disruption of communications were called sabotage groups. And during WW2 and after. It was just that the abbreviation DRG was not used then.

[NTD]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Syrian mercenaries, Turkish proxies, Turkish special forces?

Lech, only Armenians can use mercenaries from Syria, Lebanon, Europe, Russia, even Kurds from the PKK territorial organization ........ Are they special, as I understand it?

[Ka-52]

In the photo there are civilians. Where do they say they are from Syria? Why not the local militia? Moreover, the theater of military operations is not even clear from the photo. Kalashnikov with Pulsar optics and the D-30 howitzer are certainly not uncommon))

[Ulrich]

In addition, the second photo is somehow strange. Looks like a photoshop.

[NTD]

Quote: Ka-52

In the photo there are civilians. Where do they say they are from Syria?

This photo says that this is not a regular army. So mercenaries, volunteers, whatever you want to call ..........

Quote: Ka-52

Moreover, the theater of military operations is not even clear from the photo.

photos from Armenian sites.

[Ka-52]

This photo says that this is not a regular army. So mercenaries, volunteers, whatever you want to call ..........

according to your logic, these are mercenaries. But this is the people's militia in the years 2 MV

and volunteers and mercenaries are a little different

[NTD]

Quote: Ka-52

according to your logic, these are mercenaries. But this is the people's militia in the years 2 MV

You again confuse the return of the homeland with the occupation

[Garris199]

You have your own truth, they have their own. Yes, de jure Karabakh is Azerbaijani, de facto still more Armenian. In the USSR, the national-territorial structure wished for the best, and during the disintegration they made more mistakes, in pursuit of the presidential chairs. How many years have we been disentangling here and there. How would I do for example? Transferred AZ 6 regions and a corridor to Nakhichevan, and AM would have left Karabakh + 1 region. And live for yourself, make good money. Especially IMHO.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Ka-52

In the photo there are civilians. Where do they say they are from Syria? Why not the local militia? Moreover, the theater of military operations is not even clear from the photo. Kalashnikov with Pulsar optics and the D-30 howitzer are certainly not uncommon))

This is more likely a 152mm D-20, and most likely filmed in Syria. The shots are not like the Soviet ones. This is probably some kind of pro-Turkish broads.

[Homeland]

Forgotten about Somali pirates

[Asad]

Is it possible to learn more about the experts? Who are these specialists?

[416D]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

And in general, I have a lot of questions about the composition of Azerbaijan's DRG ... what kind of people are there? ... Syrian mercenaries, Turkish proxies, Turkish special forces?

all of the above + Mars Desert Seals

[Same lech]

all of the above + Mars Desert Seals

I want to know everything .

[Albay]

I want to know everything smile.

The Azerbaijani army has special operations forces which include special forces and drg units.

[Hello from Baku]

Yesterday Pegov talked about shelling from the side of the road with 82mm mortars. I have never been a military man, but I think that the DRG will not carry a bandura weighing 50-60 kg on its shoulders. I think that the advance detachment of the AZ Army has already blocked the road.

[Livonetc]

We can all have our own guesses.
Based on yours, I do my own thing.
In this case, the network would already be filled with video and photo confirmations.
Earlier, on the part of Azerbaijan, this was done immediately and en masse.
But now, on the part of the Armenians, there are many videos and photos of confirmation.
And these confirmations testify to the serious losses of Azerbaijani units.

[Hello from Baku]

Two days since the censorship has tightened the screws, you can thunder out for photos and videos from the front.
I do not see any serious losses.

[NTD]

Quote: Livonetc

In this case, the network would already be filled with video and photo confirmations.
Earlier, on the part of Azerbaijan, this was done immediately and en masse.

I agree, but photographing and exposing the corridor capture site is dangerous. Do you agree?

Quote: Livonetc

And these confirmations testify to the serious losses of Azerbaijani units.

War, everything happens. Somewhere you win and somewhere you lose. But not so much serious losses. If they were Armenians, then I agree. After such losses, everything must be protected.

[Stirbjorn]

Meanwhile, experts believe that the Azerbaijani troops are making a mistake, striving primarily not to take control of all seven regions around the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, but to reach the cities of Shusha and Stepanakert in the NKR itself.

Well experts - that's right, instead of taking Shusha, on the approaches to which the Azerbaijanis are standing, experts suggest storming the fortified mountainous regions along the perimeter of Karabakh. With the fall of Shusha, the war is considered won. It makes no sense to cling to the mountains if the main road with Armenia is cut.
Cadets Biglers modern

[Livonetc]

These fortified areas do not allow the Azerbaijani subdivisions to carry out full-fledged offensive operations.
So maybe they will not storm, but destroy in other ways.

[NTD]

Quote: Livonetc

These fortified areas do not allow the Azerbaijani subdivisions to carry out full-fledged offensive operations.

There are only 2 roads leading to Karabakh. 1st closed. 2nd they say only closed yesterday. If the Azerbaijani side manages to keep the corridor, Karabakh will surrender without a cartridge. In itself, the idea is good, but the Armenians also understand that if Karabakh is taken in this way, I doubt that the Armenians would then live in Karabakh. That is, the more Azerbaijan returns land, the less chances for Armenians to live there.

[Oquzyurd]

There are 2 more goat roads, but in case of rain, dampness and snow, they are not passable, at all. Even in a dry climate it is very difficult for them to use these tracks ..

[saigon]

It is possible there and after the rain, shishiga goes but shakes his brains away. Here 131 probably will not work there.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Livonetc

These fortified areas do not allow the Azerbaijani subdivisions to carry out full-fledged offensive operations.

These areas, with the fall of Shushi, will have the same meaning as the Kurland Army Group in the Baltics. They remained locked up until the end of the war and did not interfere with the Red Army. Will not last long without supplies

[Revolver]

All this will also go to the account of Hunchback at the High Court. He had not destroyed the country, there would have been no Karabakh conflict, no South Ossetia in 2008, no Transnistria, no Donbass. And the Belovezhskaya Caudle, which sawed the USSR, will also be counted.

[NTD]

Quote: Nagan

All this will also go to the account of Hunchback at the High Court.

Definitely! 100%. Hell has already prepared a luxury room for him.

[Ural resident]

Quote: Nagan

All this will also go to the account of Hunchback at the High Court. He had not destroyed the country, there would have been no Karabakh conflict, no South Ossetia in 2008, no Transnistria, no Donbass. And the Belovezhskaya Caudle, which sawed the USSR, will also be counted.

And Yeltsin has nothing to do with chtoli? finally signed the collapse of the country, only to enjoy the power alone on a large shard. And to this day, his relatives are in charge of the campaign.

[Revolver]

EBN kagbe was part of the Belovezhskaya kodla

[Garris199]

The country was slowly being torn apart even before Gorbachev. He only loosened the reins and everything that had accumulated in the "country of developed socialism" spilled out. The country was at a dead end and needed urgent reforms, Gorby could not cope with this, and he could not cope (the wrong caliber bird). Yes, it was possible for N more time to keep all this in tight hands, but is it necessary? The country was based on enthusiasts, on the best of the best, but people were just tired. We were tired of endlessly building this bright future, but it still did not come.

[svoit]

Something in the statements of the parties did not read the "accusations" of the actions of the DRG, this is a normal way of conducting a database. And why is the ability to counterstrike "a separate issue"?

[Azimuth]

Meanwhile, experts believe that the Azerbaijani troops are making a mistake, striving primarily not to take control of all seven regions around the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, but to reach the cities of Shusha and Stepanakert in the NKR itself. In particular, it is indicated that the advanced units of the Azerbaijani troops may be relatively distant from the main grouping, which can lead to the risk for them to be cut off by one precise and well-balanced strike. A separate question: is the NKR army capable of making such a blow today? So far, the situation, as already noted, is turning into a series of sabotage operations, at least attempts to carry them out.

The Armenians have forces in Armenia for "an accurate and well-considered strike", but only for one, taking into account the possibilities for the transfer of units from Armenia proper to Karabakh. But the big question is whether they are ready to take the risk, it is highly likely that many units will come under attack on the march.
The Azerbaijanis are not even threatened by just one serious blow, but by many sabotage and ambushes by the arrived Aomyan detachments, which are waging a war different from units, including the special forces of the Armenian army.

[Gennady Fomkin]

It's time to slap

Quote: Keyser Soze

Zhenya, I don't understand you with everything.

Zhenya?!? God, and how did I sin and live so that Turanian agitprop began to poke and call Zhenya?

Listen dear, change the manuals - they jar. Chiya used the cow not to moan and you talk about international law of seams. After the Syrian women, phosphorus and cluster bombs, your Aliyev should be dragged by the collar to Nuremberg and hanged as an accomplice of terrorists and a war criminal. If Edik does not dispose of it as unnecessary, of course.

Then we'll drag the Bulgarians to

[Gennady Fomkin]

It's time to slap sanctions on Sorosyan Pashinyan. The Armenians must be defeated on the battlefield.

[voyaka uh]

In my opinion, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are acting reasonably.
They do not climb into cities, but bypass them.
They occupy empty heights, cut the roads. Control the air.
Sometimes, their infantry units are ambushed: mountains, forests, bushes ...
Overlap cannot be avoided.
They lack Merkava-4 tanks. They are not afraid of RPG / ATGM. Only the Su-25 would be
dangerous to them.
The Merkavas would crawl upward quietly, supporting the infantry.

[Albay]

Greetings Warrior!
You are absolutely right in the mountains more important than roads and heights, and cities are a political issue. Since the Armenians left Fizuli and Agaoglan (Hadrut) to grow old, it is clear that in case of danger of complete encirclement, the Armenian army leaves the cities without a fight. The peace population in these cities is minimal.

[Nagaibak]

voyaka uh "Take up empty heights, cut roads. Control the air."
Etozh still need to hold ..)))

[voyaka uh]

It's right. Holding is also not easy. Requires supplies and engineering forces
for the construction of fortifications.

[Nagaibak]

voyaka uh "We need supplies and engineering forces."
In the mountains ... in the valleys.))) On their humps?))) Ammunition, devour.))) Where the equipment will pass and where the Armenians will burn it.))) If only they had a division there. Maybe it was enough for Shusha. The Armenians wrote about the battalion, which roamed the gorges there. One battalion is definitely not enough.

[Odessa Greek]

I introduced a 70-ton Merkava turtle in the mountains of Karabakh (this tank often jams in the desert), it would probably be fun to watch this show))).
And about the invulnerability of the Merkava when using Pthurs and RPGs ... Israeli tankers will tell you about this, who were burned on the "Chariots" (during the second Lebanese campaign) by the fighters of the Lebanese "Hezbollah", who were not aware that it was impossible to knock out the Merkava from Pturov And the "impenetrable" Merkavas from the old Soviet pturs were burning, not even bad))))). So, you can crawl on the Merkava, it can be difficult to crawl))

[voyaka uh]

In Lebanon in 2006, there were no KAZs on the Merkava-4.
And ATGMs Kornet punched them in the sides in about 50% of cases. RPG - no.
After the installation of KAZs in the 2008 war in Gaza, Merkava-4 was shot several times
missiles from ATGM and Trophy intercepted missiles.
Lebanon is as mountainous as Karabakh. Tanks cannot accelerate there, but
they can crawl along mountain roads.

[lucul]

In Lebanon in 2006, there were no KAZs on the Merkava-4.
And ATGMs Kornet punched them in the sides in about 50% of cases. RPG - no.

Do you think KAZ will help against Hermes? )))

[voyaka uh]

There are entire families of large air-launched anti-tank missiles,
against which KAZ was not tested. But even these missiles had no proven experience.
hitting tanks. Therefore, .... solve problems as they come.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: MTN

Quote: Keyser Soze

Hare smack nonsense - go and judge your colleague in Hage.

Zhenya, I don't understand you with everything. You are like Bulgarians, yourself under Europe and the United States. Here for Russia, for those who are against your masters. Maybe first you will figure out who you are and then you will indicate here xy xy xy?

Yes, by the way) Here Europe and other striped ones are not particularly favored. And that's all)

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

and the "Albanians" themselves, where did they go ... and what does the Azerbaijanis have to do with it?) Don't you want to remember the "Albanization" of history either?) or the Azerbaijanis are too proud)

I have an innocent hobby , so as not to argue for a long time, for example with the Armenians, I always try to answer them with the statements of their own scientists and historians) In this case, although you are not an Armenian, a quote from the famous Armenian historian, academician Suren Yeremyan explains a lot:
"That part of the population of Albania, which by the time of the establishment of Arab rule at the beginning of the XNUMXth century had not yet been ethnically and culturally assimilated by Armenians and Georgians, converted to Islam, and Arabic became the language of the religious rite; along with Arabic, Persian and then Turkic were widely used - Azerbaijani. As the Turkic nomadic tribes established themselves on the winter pastures of the Kura-Araz lowland, the Muslimized part of the aboriginal population of ancient Albania assimilated with the Turkic tribes. This is how the modern Azerbaijani nation was formed. "
Source: Early feudal states of Transcaucasia in the III-VII centuries. From chapter XIII “Ideology and culture of Albania in the III-VII centuries, p. 324.
By the way, Dagestani scientists confirm this opinion.
Dagestan scientist S. Sh. Hajiyeva writes:
"The Azerbaijanis as a people were formed as a result of a long historical development, the gradual consolidation of local ancient tribes (Albanians, Udins, Caspians, Talysh, etc.) with the Turkic-speaking tribes who came in different periods - the Huns, Oguzes, Kipchaks, etc., - and, According to the opinion existing in science, the replacement of the indigenous languages ​​of the population by the Türkic spoken language here refers to the XI-XIII centuries.In turn, the Türkic-speaking tribes were quite motley in their ethnic components, uniting many other, partly more ancient tribes (Sarmatian-Saki), later who participated in the ethnogenesis of not only Azerbaijanis, but also a number of other Turkic-speaking peoples.It must be assumed that the Karakoyunlu ("black sheep") and akkoyunlu ("white-sheep") tribes that settled in South Azerbaijan left a noticeable trace in the ethnic history of Azerbaijan. XV century included "Azerbaijani lands south of Cuba"
Source: Sakinat Shikhamedovna Hajiyeva. Daghestani Terekemenians: XIX - early XX centuries - Science, 1990. - S. 8-9.

[Bonk838]

included "Azerbaijani lands south of Cuba" south of Cuba, Caymans and Jamaica

[Garry]

The site has become Azerbot

[Bogatyrev]

Quote: Dimon71

I'm not catching up with something here. Who controls the site? Try to write the word ARCakh normally in Russian. As a comment, it is automatically banitsa. But if you drive in Karabakh, they miss it.

I try.
ARTSAKH

[Andrey Novoseltsev]

Her first mistake was when she started the war with the support of Turkey and militants from all over the world. This was already in 92-94. And the Armenians won the war. I think this time it will be the same just the Armenians they are very angry and now they do not stop for them the legal and liberated border will be along the Kura and the Araks

[Stepan53274]

Quote: Garris199

You have your own truth, they have their own. Yes, de jure Karabakh is Azerbaijani, de facto still more Armenian. In the USSR, the national-territorial structure wished for the best, and during the disintegration they made more mistakes, in pursuit of the presidential chairs. How many years have we been disentangling here and there. How would I do for example? Transferred AZ 6 regions and a corridor to Nakhichevan, and AM would have left Karabakh + 1 region. And live for yourself, make good money. Especially IMHO.

How wonderful I decided. Imagine Japan is occupying the Kurils from Russia, Khabarovsk Territory, Sakhalin. And then he will say: we are giving Russia the Khabarovsk Territory and the Kuriles, and we will keep Sakhalin for ourselves. Normas?

[Konnick]

Quote: finish

In the video, everyone speaks Russian perfectly. And they said that the Armenians have forgotten the Russian language!

Because this is pure decree, they picked up those who know the language, that's all. And Pegov was left to shoot the staged "battle".

[Konnick]

Quote: finish

In the video, everyone speaks Russian perfectly. And they said that the Armenians have forgotten the Russian language!

The young, without knowledge of the language, were sent along a parallel path to portray the enemy's DRG, only they walk in a crowd, as befits untrained fighters, and they shine like that ... the pure water of a decision for wargonzo.

[Homeland]

[quote = The same LEKH] [quote]
And in general, I have a lot of questions about the composition of Azerbaijan's DRG ... what kind of people are there? ... Syrian mercenaries, Turkish proxies, Turkish special forces? ... they run too fast and brazenly there. [/ Quote]
Forgotten about Somali pirates

[APASUS]

Experts believe that the Azerbaijani troops are making a mistake, striving primarily not to take control of all seven regions around the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, but to reach the cities of Shusha and Stepanakert in the NKR itself. In particular, it is indicated that the advanced units of the Azerbaijani troops may be relatively remote from the main grouping, which can lead to the risk for them to be cut off by one precise and well-balanced strike.

For some reason, experts do not say that the capture of Shushi could have a very strong impact on the supply of Armenian troops in Karabazh. Even if the Armenians still have combat units, it will be critically difficult to supply them.