USA left Indonesia without fifth generation F-35 fighters

The United States left Indonesia without fifth-generation F-35 fighters. According to the Indonesian Ambassador to the United States, Muhammad Lutfi, Washington does not intend to sell fifth generation fighters until Jakarta purchases American F-16 fighters, CNN Indonesia reported.

According to the ambassador, Washington said that Jakarta cannot own fifth-generation Lockheed Martin F-35 fighters until it purchases American fourth-generation fighters.

So there are platforms we have to work on to get the F-35. We must have 4th generation fighters. We must have F-16 fighters

- declared Lutfi.

The ambassador explained that in the near future the United States will come to Indonesia with a proposal to purchase a batch of F-16 fighters.

It should be noted that talks about the acquisition of F-16 fighters by Indonesia have been going on for a long time. Last fall, Air Force Chief of Staff Marshal aviation Yuyu Sutisna announced plans for Jakarta to purchase two F-16 squadrons of the latest modification.

At the same time, the contract for the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters "stuck". Recall that the contract for the purchase of 11 Su-35 fighters by Indonesia was signed on February 14, 2018 in Jakarta. The Indonesian Ministry of Defense originally planned that the first two Su-35s should be delivered to the country in August 2019 - by Armed Forces Day (October 5). The remaining nine cars were planned to be transferred later in two batches of four and five units by February 2020 and by July 2020.

In March this year, Bloomberg, citing sources in the US White House administration, reported that Indonesia had refused to purchase Russian Su-35 fighters. The reason for this was called American pressure and the threat of sanctions against Jakarta. However, Russia did not receive official notice from Jakarta about the termination of the contract, although the Russian aircraft industry recognized that the "contract was suspended."

In July, the country's defense minister, Lieutenant General Prabovo Subianto, announced that he intended to visit Moscow to discuss a contract for Russian fighters.

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[Mavrikiy]

Washington does not intend to sell fifth generation fighters until Jakarta purchases American F-16 fighters, CNN Indonesia reported.

And rightly so, the calf is always small. Why sell junk for 5 if you can sell it for 6 lard, although add a little luminescence?

[figwam]

Jakarta cannot own fifth-generation Lockheed Martin F-35 fighters until it purchases American fourth-generation fighters.

[Baloo]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Washington does not intend to sell fifth generation fighters until Jakarta purchases American F-16 fighters, CNN Indonesia reported.

And rightly so, the calf is always small. Why sell junk for 5 if you can sell it for 6 lard, although add a little luminescence?

Why does Indonesia need these fighters? They need to strengthen their air defense and coastal defense. Make friends with Russia, Indonesians. The Amerza will arrange for you some kind of mango-banana revolution.

[Volkof]

She doesn't need them at all, and how can she use them? Indonesia can also thank the pi_ndos for the refusal ...

[newcomer]

"What a pain, what a pain: USA Indonesia five zero."

[Turanov]

Quote: newbie

"What a pain, what a pain: USA Indonesia five zero."

They milk Indonesia and blackmail them like other countries ..
That's all I’m waiting for when the decommissioned F-35 is swallowed to Ukraine)))) One she will pull, for the fiery anti-Russian rhetoric

[halpat]

Quote: Turanov

Quote: newbie

"What a pain, what a pain: USA Indonesia five zero."

They milk Indonesia and blackmail them like other countries ..
That's all I’m waiting for when the decommissioned F-35 is swallowed to Ukraine)))) One she will pull, for the fiery anti-Russian rhetoric

As before, in Soviet stores they used to sell "on load". The same is proposed here to Indonesia.
And 404 you can donate a plastic model to F-35, "do it yourself" constructor. Let it stick.

[tralflot1832]

They will definitely not give to Ukraine, we will throw a cry at the VO, collect the loot and the next day he is already in Rostov, he is invisible.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Turanov

They milk Indonesia and blackmail them like other countries ..

American "economic killers" have long ago made a "cash cow" out of Indonesia.

[newcomer]

Maximum thrust of ukrlenda_ "Tucano", a couple.

[Turanov]

Quote: newbie

Maximum thrust of ukrlenda_ "Tucano", a couple.

Laughed thanks

[newcomer]

On health.

[the Saint]

Quote: newbie

"What a pain, what a pain: USA Indonesia five zero."

And Indonesia will leave the United States without palm oil in exchange for fighters.

[Machete]

PHAHAA!
You can also collect the third from the landfills. Also money.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Machete

You can also collect the third from the landfills. Also money.

Well, you can expect anything from the greedy Yankees. It will not be surprising if they demand to purchase the entire "line" from the first to the fourth generation.

[rocket757]

And sho, good deal, for the minke whales!
Problems of someone there, minke whales are not interested!

[Turanov]

Quote: rocket757

And sho, good deal, for the minke whales!
Problems of someone there, minke whales are not interested!

And if they don't agree, the accounts will be blocked, like Kremlin agents, etc. Do not wash, so by rolling they will shake off their illiquid assets

[rocket757]

The striped people have established new rules of trade ... the main thing is that they seriously backed them up with arguments.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Turanov

And if they don't agree, the accounts will be blocked, like Kremlin agents, etc.

Yes, they can, whatever you want to do, Indonesia has been on the hook for a long time. John Perkins described this in his book.

[Gunther]

The Yankels have completely lost their shores, then they stretch their jurisdiction over the whole world like an owl on a globe and kidnap citizens, for example, of Russia, now they are putting Indonesian partners in lobster, although they have already caved in, they decided to abandon our Su-35s.
It's time for us to attract mattresses under the article - violation of the Law on the Protection of Consumer Rights, namely paragraph 2 of Article 16, which prohibits the purchase of certain goods (works, services) from being conditional on the compulsory purchase of other goods, we must take an example from "partners"

[Lord of the Sith]

As soon as they put in a big and fat one, they will also impose sanctions that they, exceptional, are taught

[Boris Chernikov]

since when did the Indonesians become partners for amers? They breed them and use them without petroleum jelly

[rotmistr60]

Washington does not intend to sell fifth generation fighters until Jakarta purchases American F-16 fighters

That's right, but how else to shake their wallet more, if not selling first the previous models, and then with an important look and from the master's shoulder the notorious F-35. And before that, pressure so that Indonesia backed down on the issue of purchasing Russian aircraft. Business is business.

[fn34440]

As a result of the "multi-vector" foreign policy, Indonesia will receive three squadrons of PO-2 from the "aircraft manufacturers" of Ukraine.
Lenin's term "political pr ---- tuts" is as relevant as ever.

[askort154]

First, the left testicle was pressed - "refuse the deal with the Russians, buy the F-35"!
When they refused, they pressed their right testicle - "if you want an F-35, then buy an F-16 first!
The usual strategy of the Anglo-Saxons is to make concessions to get on the neck.

[Thrifty]

Everything is purely American-that is, without the right to choose! Indonesia SHOULD not know what, but we must, and therefore naturally MUST buy from the Yankees f16, which Indonesians need a microscope like a janitor!

[Sergey39]

Changing the SU 35 to F35 + F16 is stupid. Indonesia is playing for time to close the obvious deal at the right time.

[Raven 95]

So that the third world does not dream of these F-35s as a panacea for everything, it is high time to "tarnish" their reputation.
One shake of air in the style of "penguin is not a bird" and "966 fatal flaws" is clearly not enough.
It's time to blame. One. Better a couple. By any means, even a "random" missile, even with an RPG from the bushes.
And let them spit.

[Mountain shooter]

If the contract for Drying fails, it will be a pity. Our military-industrial complex needs contracts in order to develop and reduce the cost ... Striped ears need even more. Therefore, they no longer choose ways to achieve their goal, bribery, blackmail, threats ...

[Turanov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

If the contract for Drying fails, it will be a pity. Our military-industrial complex needs contracts in order to develop and reduce the cost ... Striped ears need even more. Therefore, they no longer choose ways to achieve their goal, bribery, blackmail, threats ...

I agree with you Eugene! Malice crushes the West and the toad chokes, lest the Russian take over the whole world.

[the Saint]

Quote: Turanov

no matter how Russian has captured the whole world.

Refugees from Russia, what le?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Stripes need even more. Therefore, they no longer choose ways to achieve their goal, bribery, blackmail, threats ...

The most reliable thing is to make the state economically dependent. Having built any infrastructure on credit, they make this state dependent, and can impose any conditions.

[aszzz888]

Washington does not intend to sell fifth generation fighters until Jakarta purchases American F-16 fighters.

I remember the old Soviet times, when vodka was not sold without rusty herring stitching.

[sabakina]

Sheriff, I'm sorry, but in the Soviet Union one could even have a snack with "rusty herring", it was made according to GOST. Well, if it wasn't Swedish surstroemming, of course ...

[Turanov]

Quote: sabakina

Sheriff, I'm sorry, but in the Soviet Union one could even have a snack with "rusty herring", it was made according to GOST. Well, if it wasn't Swedish surstroemming, of course ...

Herring Iwashi, that was it! Now this is only rented to Japan, and even then ..
And canned food, where the bones were so soft .. Eh damn
Pollock was not considered a fish at all, now, like a red fish for a price, and then rotten and frozen ..
The pancake survived to tear her in the head and down the dog's tail.

[mitroha]

Iwashi herring is still freely sold both lightly salted and frozen. In canned food, the bones are also soft, as in the old days, and correctly selected canned food is also very tasty

[Turanov]

Quote: Mitroha

Iwashi herring is still freely sold both lightly salted and frozen. In canned food, the bones are also soft, as in the old days, and correctly selected canned food is also very tasty

I haven't seen something on sale .. Don't you confuse it with a simple herring?
Iwasi herring is a very rare type of fish and only in a certain season was it caught in the USSR!

Iwasi is a Far Eastern sardine, which is a close relative of real herring, which, in principle, is not surprising, because this fish also belongs to the Herring family. Iwashi is a wild fish, that is, it is not raised on fish farms. Iwashi is characterized by the presence of a fairly impressive amount of fat, which can be easily separated from the dense, but fleshy carcasses.

They are not on sale for a very long time .. Previously, they were sold in large round jars ..

[mitroha]

No, I don't. And also in canned food is full

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[aszzz888]

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Sheriff I'm sorry but in the Soviet Union it was possible to eat even "rusty herring", it was made according to GOST. Well, if it wasn't Swedish surstroemming of course ... wink

Quite right! They took it out of a wooden barrel - pepper, excellent lavrushka snack !!!

[Alien From]

Bye Bye. While inside, let them figure it out.

[Tugarin]

The F-16 train is leaving, we must have time to sell as much as possible. I remember they imposed it on India.

[Herman 4223]

Americans keep the whole world in one place. I wonder what the world will do to them for this when their power is shaken.

[hydro]

Business in American)

[NF68]

Don't buy lottery tickets - turn off the gas!

[fa2998]

Quote: rotmistr60

shake their wallet more,

And Indonesia buys planes from other countries, pays with dollars or like with us, palm oil?
It's good that the deal was banned, where did Indonesia get the money for the F-35 batch and other expenses.?

[PCF]

I just want to ask.
In the English-language press, there is no 5th generation, it is "the Russians invented everything", there is simply next generation, why multiply entities ???
By the way, the same question about "social distance", why is this stupid tracing paper from the media?
Social distancing, also called “physical distancing” - equated a hedgehog and a snake.
The social distance is between Vasya the locksmith and the press secretary of His Darkness.
INCREDIBLE distance, and between people on the street is simply abstand, as the Germans say, distance.
The fifth, sixth generation, these are such conventions ... There are no general requirements, there are no samples that fully satisfy the requirements of ALL experts (well, maybe the Fu-22 will ride), one popsnya with commercial advertising in half.
There are NO more true samurai with a katana in the cockpit of a fighter.

[Grif]

F-16 in the load? This is already dishonorable.