Aliyev announced his readiness to end hostilities "even today"

The fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh continues for the second month in a row, and against this background, the heads of Armenia and Azerbaijan continue to give interviews to various media outlets. At the same time, the interviews look like they are being done with a carbon copy. The main theses: the opposite side is to blame for everything, we are right, we are ready to cease fire, but only if the enemy does the same and will certainly fulfill all our conditions.

Such statements are made by both Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev.

Aliyev gave his next interview to European journalists. This time - to the Italian newspaper La Republica.

According to the Azerbaijani leader, Baku is ready to stop hostilities, but ... Armenia must fulfill the conditions.

Ilham Aliyev calls the withdrawal of Armenian troops from the occupied territories the main condition.

According to Aliyev, the order to cease fire will be given "even today" if the Armenian prime minister undertakes obligations to liberate the occupied Azerbaijani territories.

President of Azerbaijan:

So far, he has not taken such obligations.

According to Aliyev, the army has already liberated 4 regions. Three left ...

At the same time, Aliyev did not specify that the Azerbaijani troops are attempting to advance in the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, and not only along the perimeter of its borders.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan again announced the shelling of Azerbaijani territories (including settlements) by Armenian troops. The Armenian side made similar accusations against Baku for shelling the NKR settlements.

Comments

[APASUS]

As I understand it, Aliyev is sending a signal to Yerevan. He offers to free the territories voluntarily. Pashinyan will most likely have to flee, otherwise his fate is not enviable. In fact, it is worth waiting for a new revolution in Armenia and a change of power

[taiga2018]

Quote: APASUS

.In fact, it is worth waiting for a new revolution in Armenia and a change of power

But this is unlikely, the "proud" Armenian people will swallow this humiliation and will tolerate a pro-Western henchman, but if it were a pro-Russian president then it would be another matter ... Remember in Ukraine the people overwhelmed with "dignity" overthrew the hated Yanukovych, and now the same people began to live at times worse, and "proud" Ukrainians behave like the last loshars ...

[Uncle lee]

Sergey Mikhalkov
Sheep
On the steep mountain path
Black lamb walked home
And on the bridge a humpback
I met a white brother.

And the white ram said:
“Brother, here's the thing:
Here you can not go together,
You stand in my way "

The black brother replied: “Me
Are you in your, ram, mind?
Let my legs wither,
If I get out of the way! "

Shook one horns
I put my other feet on ...
No matter how cool you are
And together you can not pass.

The sun is baking from above
And below the river flows.
In this river early in the morning
Two sheep drowned.
[Source Kultura.RF: https://www.culture.ru/poems/45339/barany]

[Tatyana]

The fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh continues for the second month in a row, and against this background, the heads of Armenia and Azerbaijan continue to give interviews to various media outlets.
The main theses: the opposite side is to blame for everything, we are right, we are ready to cease fire, but only if the enemy does the same and will certainly fulfill all our conditions.

Meanwhile, young people are dying in both countries - the population is shrinking.

A war is easier to start than to end. This is on the one hand.
On the other hand, you need to understand in whose real interests the war is being fought and why.

There is no victory in Karabakh (analysis). • 20 Oct. 2020

[Hypertension]

Quote: taiga2018

But this is unlikely, the "proud" Armenian people will swallow this humiliation and will tolerate the pro-Western protege

Well, this is navryatli. Too great losses in human, technical, territorial and image terms. Here, though pro-Western, even pro-Eastern - "Karachun you, Tsereteli."

[NTD]

Quote: taiga2018

But this is unlikely, the "proud" Armenian people will swallow this humiliation and will tolerate a pro-Western henchman, but if it were a pro-Russian president then it would be another matter ...

And who will they do worse? Already their army is on the verge of collapse, where else? Although I somehow understand Pashinyan, he wants to live. If he surrenders, his own will remove him. He will not surrender and will lose both people and equipment and land, then what he will do is an interesting question.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: APASUS

As I understand it, Aliyev is sending a signal to Yerevan. He offers to free the territories voluntarily

Yes, winter is coming. And they didn't stock up on winter uniforms ... So he started talking about the truce. Low cloudiness, precipitation, the efficiency of the UAV will decrease greatly, taking the advantage of the Azerbaijanis ... We must fix the luck while the trams are running ...

[NTD]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Yes, winter is coming. And they didn't stock up on winter uniforms ... So he started talking about the truce.

Zhenya, well, it seems to be an adult, but write such nonsense. Azerbaijan is not greedy even for 2 Armenian soldiers on a rocket, but did they hide it for clothes? Don't write such nonsense.

Quote: Mountain Shooter

So he started talking about the truce.

He is not proposing a truce, but setting conditions !!!!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: MTN

Zhenya, well, it seems to be an adult, but write such nonsense. Azerbaijan is not greedy even for 2 Armenian soldiers on a rocket, but did they hide for clothes? Don't write such nonsense

I wrote somewhere that they concealed? I wrote that I did not stock it up as a scenario. It simply might not have been in the required quantities in warehouses - well, why is winter uniform in Azerbaijan?

[NTD]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

I wrote somewhere that they concealed?

Quote: Mountain Shooter

winter is coming. And winter uniforms did not stock ..

more...

Quote: Mountain Shooter

wrote that they did not stock it up as a scenario.

Dear Gennady, the people will donate their last socks to the fund of the Azerbaijani army, not just winter clothes. The Azerbaijani army is equipped, dressed and well fed not worse than the NATO armies http://armiya.az/ru/news/135759 and even more, your allies from the CSTO are part of the Turkic union, 2 out of 6 members of the CSTO send aid to our military. https://www.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3328095.html
and also I can’t help but point out that rich Azerbaijanis send wagons to the front everything that is needed for our soldiers, even Coca-Cola, to which it has come to pass that our army asks not to do this.
And their families (if the soldier was a breadwinner) from the state comes assistance in the form of a box with the necessary and a salary from the place of work, and if God forbid what happens to him, the state and the rich take care of the children. If the father died at the front, the child will enter the store, it says on the plate, YOUR FATHER PAYED: (((((((((((((((((everything is free for this child !!! Where have you seen this "And when our boyfriend dies, he is not greeted with tears .... with applause. Signals and whistles and applause. One of these days one son died, became a martyr (this is the highest degree in the Islamic religion) you know what his father said? My son lifted me up to heaven.
And you think with such a people will give Karabakh to the Armenians? Never !!!

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, why are winter uniforms in Azerbaijan?

there are mountains on the borders in Azerbaijan. And there is snow even in summer.
http://armiya.az/ru/news/164216

[APASUS]

Quote: MTN

The other day, one of his sons died, became a martyr (this is the highest degree in the Islamic religion) you know what his father said? My son lifted me up to heaven.

How quickly Azerbaijan turned from a secular state into a theocratic one.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: MTN

One of these days one son died, became martyr (this is the highest degree in Islamic religion) you know what his father said? My son lifted me up to heaven.

I don’t run over, I’m just wondering .. do you understand what you wrote?

[Thrifty]

To make a promise without thought and desire to fulfill it became for Aliyev and Pashinyan something self-evident. ..

[Mavrikiy]

Aliyev announced his readiness to end hostilities "even today"

Just a dove of peace with an olive branch in its beak, especially in profile. Pashinyan, against his background, is just a bloodthirsty hawk, who was hungry, in addition to Armenian blood, and Russian. Aliyev is smart, you have to be able to make a good face in a bad game. They didn't take Karabakh, Turkish mercenaries from Syria are shitty fighters and it's amazing how almost the whole country was taken under control in Syria, but 2 thousand is not 100 thousand, but the effect should have been, and Erdogash, rohat- Turkish delight, but the mouth is not sweet. But for politics, Aliyev has enough buns, and the GDP will give him a plus sign, he obeyed. And his conditions, no matter how categorical they were, a simple chant, he himself comes out with snot. Pashenyan on his background - a repeater ... And the Armenians must answer for their choice and anti-Russian policy, up to and including the loss of Karabakh. The issue of Armenians living there is a matter of negotiations, not a market throat.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: APASUS

+9
As I understand it, Aliyev is sending a signal to Yerevan

Hello!
Aliyev plays to the audience.
His message is designed not so much for the internal audience (electorate).
How much for an international audience.
With the current configuration of the front line, the Armenians are not in a position to agree to a truce.
Take a look at the database map.
They literally hang over communications from both the north and especially in the south.
If the parties go on "vacation" during the winter, Am. it is necessary so that it does not begin to discard the az. from Kr. Bazaar, Shushi and from Lachin.
This is the first priority!
The NKR logistics are broken. If Am. come to terms with the current state of affairs in the theater of operations (which I very much doubt), az. overloads forces will buy long-range large-caliber art, draw conclusions and I think they will start by Novruz Bayram next year.
First of all, Armenians need to neutralize the success of Azerbaijan. in front of Lachin, to face death in front of Shusha and to strengthen the flanks of Kr.Bazar.
In the north, at the moment there is a special prospect for Az. no.
The center strains me. It's very suspiciously quiet there. As the previous weeks of battles showed, Az. achieved success in the low-lying part and there as a rather low-lying area in front of and behind Agdam.
In conclusion, I would like to add the question of life and death, not to allow cutting the * road of Life "Lachin.
And stand to death for Shusha!

[NTD]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Take a look at the database map.
They literally hang over communications from both the north and especially in the south.

Azerbaijan took control of telecommunications network in Nagorno-Karabakh
https://haqqin.az/news/193137

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Am. it is necessary so that it does not begin to discard az. from Kr. Bazaar, Shushi and from Lachin.

By whom? By what? Kurdish mercenaries or Syrian-Lebanese mercenaries? Or volunteers?

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

overloads forces will buy long-range large-caliber art, draw conclusions and I think they will start by Novruz Bayram next year.

Will they buy? And what about Peonies, Dana, Msta, don't count?

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

And stand to death for Shusha!

Did you say everything in support of the Armenians? Do you want to offer anything else to those who offend your government and Russia? Who do not want to be in the same union with you?

Don't you have self-respect for yourself, for your country, for the president after all? You know, I'm very happy that the head of Russia thinks differently, not like local users without self-respect !!!! I am very glad that Erdogan-Putin and Aliyev have agreed on everything.

It turns out that the Russian authorities are more loyal to Azerbaijan and in its fair fight against the separatists. And personally, I sincerely wish you always to have such allies !!!! Go far with such allies

[Deniso]

He began to talk very often, probably the blitzkrieg stalled.

[NTD]

Quote: denis obuckov

He began to talk very often, probably the blitzkrieg stalled.

:) What are you talking about? Did Azerbaijan talk about blitzkrieg somewhere? Can you show me? If you do not understand, then I will explain briefly. The Azerbaijani army, first of all, not only returns the land, but also destroys the manpower and equipment of the Armenians. This is the priority.

[Yujanin]

Ahh .. so there was a blitzkrieg after all? You are already deciding on your conclusions ...

[Tank hard]

Making a statement and executing it are completely different things. After all, they conclude a truce at an enviable frequency, so what?

[the finish]

From the first week he repeats this condition = surrender! not feasible! Play to the public (Western media). In general, there are 2 options - AZ. 5 + 2 + do not understand what (ie exile, etc., etc.) and AR 5 + 2 (minus ... road) + Status.

[Baloo]

According to Aliyev, the order to cease fire will be given "even today" if the Armenian prime minister undertakes obligations to liberate the occupied Azerbaijani territories.

Armenians, suitcase, airport and blow to defend Karabakh. Azerbaijanis too, go to your home.

[tralflot1832]

Judging by the name of the commander of the test crew who flew the TU 160 with new engines, will you personally hand him a suitcase with a ticket to Yerevan?

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Balu

Armenians, suitcase, airport and blow to defend Karabakh.

Hello!
So Am. and defend themselves.
Az. they also seem to keep up with the idea of ​​repelling territes.
Another thing is, they fed you up !

[Baloo]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Quote: Balu

Armenians, suitcase, airport and blow to defend Karabakh.

Hello!
So Am. and defend themselves.
Az. they also seem to keep up with the idea of ​​repelling territes.
Another thing is, they fed you up !

This territory is inhabited by people who want independence. What do the Azerbaijanis and Turks, and now also the hired rabble, need there? Do Armenians consider this land theirs? Let them protect. The Azeris have few problems of their own, have you decided to fall under the Turks? In Tatar villages they say this: a neighbor is closer to a relative. As a child, a babay punished me for breaking a branch of a cherry that was hanging from a neighbor's fence as an 8-year-old boy. This is how neighborly relations should be. And the Azerbaijanis have nothing to do in Karabakh. If the Russian Federation helps Karabakh fight off with modern weapons, I do not mind. Another question is, to what extent are the Armed Forces of Armenia and Karabakh ready to professionally resist? Judging by the lack of camouflage and dispersal, not very much. apparently, the Armenians and Karabakh will lose the war of attrition. Here, as in Syria, the intervention of the Russian Federation must be timely and adequate in order to extinguish the fire, and not let it smolder.

[NTD]

Quote: Balu

This territory is inhabited by people who want independence.

You never know what they want? They have already gained independence on our lands in the Iravan Khanate. There are so many peoples living in Russia, are you ready to give everyone independence? Armenians have already determined themselves in Armenia, what else do you want?

Quote: Balu

The Azeris have few problems of their own, have you decided to fall under the Turks?

You yourself are lying under someone. Brother by brother does not lie, maybe it is so accepted with us brother for brother!

Quote: Balu

And the Azerbaijanis have nothing to do in Karabakh.

You talk about my land, indicate it in my own language and tell me there is nothing to do there? Is your head all right? I understand you do not have self-esteem and self-esteem .......... considering how the Armenians speak of you ............. but don't go too far.

[NTD]

Quote: Balu

Armenians, suitcase, airport and blow to defend Karabakh. Azerbaijanis too, go to your home.

We, too, should drive the Russians out, Russian suitcase the airport and go to Russia?

[Avior]

... At the same time, Aliyev did not specify that the Azerbaijani troops are attempting to advance in the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, and not only along the perimeter of its borders.

Taking into account the fact that Armenia does not recognize the independence of Karabakh, even from its point of view, Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan.

[NTD]

Quote: Avior

Taking into account the fact that Armenia does not recognize the independence of Karabakh, even from its point of view, Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan.

Thank you, Sergey. Adequate answer, but I would add. Firstly, they have already gained independence in Armenia in the primordial Azerbaijani lands. How many more independences are there? Where do you live for a long time, then you have to ask for independence? It is very dangerous to say that. Armenians live in Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories ............... think about it .... Read Griboyedov at the expense of Armenians and their life in Russia.

[Operator]

The residents of Armenia have a strange position - they did nothing and are doing nothing for new types of weapons of a penny cost, they do not recognize the sovereignty of Karabakh, they do not overthrow the government of the national traitor Pashinyan, they do not close the foreign subversive centers of Soros and Co.

Otherwise, yes: "Russian invaders, help in any way you can in protecting the sovereignty of pro-American Armenia"

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Hello!

Quote: Operator

The residents of Armenia have a strange position - they did nothing and are doing nothing on new types of weapons of a penny cost

I will slightly correct you.
Armenians proceed from their capabilities at the moment. And they are not brilliant in terms of finance at the moment.
By the most modest estimates, the war costs Armenia $ 30 million per day.
Az. of course many times more.
The capabilities of the parties to the conflict are not commensurably different.
Please do not forget the covid born in 19 and the crisis that it caused.

Quote: Operator

do not recognize the sovereignty of Karabakh,

Believe me They would be glad but not able to be the first. Precedent is needed, preferably non-neutral countries. At least a couple of countries have been recognized.

Quote: Operator

do not overthrow the government of the national traitor Pashinyan

But at the moment this is fraught with internal shock, no matter what Az will not take advantage of.
Remember what happened 30 years ago in Az. A series of state. coups (I counted 7, seven), the struggle of clans for power exactly coincided with the loss of territories at the front.
It's another matter if Pashinyan voluntarily leaves power without internal upheavals.

[Operator]

A kamikaze drone requires epoxy, fiberglass, an electric motor with a lithium-ion battery, and a Chinese smartphone (which has everything from communications to a video camera and processor). The cost of such a drone will be less than 10 thousand dollars. With the money raised by the Armenian diaspora in the United States, a long time ago, it would have been possible to make more than 1000 such drones and start shooting at Azerbaijani military equipment on the front line and in the rear.

How to make a reconnaissance UAV and a repeater UAV for kamikaze drones - contact.

[NTD]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Armenians proceed from their capabilities at the moment. And they are not brilliant in terms of finance at the moment.
By the most modest estimates, the war costs Armenia $ 30 million per day.
Az. of course many times more.

Vlad, we Azerbaijanis do not write about you as "Ru", we write Russia, Russian. You indicate Armenia in full and Azerbaijan AZ. This is not all correct and fair in relation to Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Salam!

Quote: MTN

Vlad, we Azerbaijanis do not write about you as "Ru", we write Russia, Russian. You indicate Armenia in full and Azerbaijan

Your comments are true!
I’m sorry to berate you. This was not intentional!
Henceforth, if the Azerbaijanis and Armenians do not mind, I will enter correctly.
These are:
Azerbaijan-Az.
Azerbaijanis - az.
Armenia-Am.
Armenians
If there are objections from both sides, I will correct it again.
With respect!

[vlad.baryatinsky]

I actually live in the Netherlands.
I will not mind if you indicate the country of my current residence as: NL. .
With respect!

[Revolver]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

It's another matter if Pashinyan voluntarily leaves power without internal upheavals.

Shoots himself two bullets in the back of the head. Well, or hang himself, also with a test in the back of the head.

[rocket757]

Peace is needed.
Now everything is stuck and only increases the losses on both sides.

[novel66]

it seems that you can't do without peacekeepers, it hurts a lot of blood spilled, the expense has already gone

[rocket757]

Well, yes, this is possible, only the balance must be observed, and the local stakeholders are hardly ready for this.

[Revolver]

Quote: novel xnumx

it seems that you can't do without peacekeepers, it hurts a lot of blood spilled, the expense has already gone

Where are they, those peacekeepers who will suit both sides? UN? It’s not even funny, they just waggle their tongues and know how to accept no one to anything. And who needs it? In any case, not Russia. You will recall how the Georgians treated the Russian peacekeepers in 2008. Want more sealed zinc coffins?

[NTD]

Quote: rocket757

Peace is needed.

From a religious point of view, you are right Victor. God says, I forgive you, why don't you forgive, but believe me they do not deserve our forgiveness after all that we have suffered from them. A person makes mistakes 1 time, and if he repeats the mistake, then this is his image. This is not the first time what happened in Karabakh. Therefore, I believe that the Azerbaijani leadership is doing very very correctly that it threshes all equipment and manpower. The fewer there are, the less headaches all neighbors of Armenians will have. They are not peace-loving people.

Just take a look at this list. http://www.bakililar.az/kolonka/terror2.html Before you believe it or not, check every date in neutral sources and you will be convinced that my words are correct. And here only part of their sin is described.

[rocket757]

There is an opportunity to end the war, it must be done.
There is no reason to kill so many people .... the only ones to blame are politicians and arsonists from all sides! And they will not suffer in this conflict.

[NTD]

Quote: rocket757

the only ones to blame are politicians and arsonists from all sides!

I agree with you. But believe me, their people are also fanatical. Although to this level they are turned by their own government.

Quote: rocket757

And they will not suffer in this conflict.

Not this time. Pashinyan will pay

Quote: rocket757

There is an opportunity to end the war, it must be done.
There is no reason to kill so many people

Dear Victor, I have only one question for you. Do you give a guarantee that after a certain time they will not arrange Khojaly 2 for us and will not want to redefine themselves? Autonomy is a very dangerous term. I have always been opposed to one ethnic group in the country living compactly in one region. It is very very dangerous !!! The only way to protect yourself from Armenian fanaticism is not to allow them all to live compactly in Karabakh. Spread all over Azerbaijan.

[rocket757]

Quote: MTN

Believe me, their people are also fanatical. Although to this level they are turned by their own government

Those in power have their own goals in ANY business, life, conflicts. They have plenty of methods of influence, but they are used to not limiting themselves with some kind of moral norms, laws and other things.
Everywhere so!

Quote: MTN

Not this time. Pashinyan will pay

People will pay MUCH MORE!

Quote: MTN

You give a guarantee that after a certain time they will not arrange Khojaly 2 for us and will not want to redefine themselves

You ask this from a RUSSIAN, SOVIET person who has something to PRESENT to many, national and religious formations, states !!!
You will find me at least once, Schaub I made a claim to someone, someone I wanted to control on this principle?
But I am an old soldier and an excessive pacifism did not suffer when I was born ...
For me, the PURPOSE of everything is important, moreover, it has never overshadowed the fact that one must always remain a HUMANITY. We were raised that way.
Peace is important now, because everything can still be solved! Yes, it will be difficult, it takes time, Schaub wounds healed ...
We need a real mediator who is interested, Schaub the world was the same for everyone. We need a peacemaker.
A lot is needed, but you need to start with a truce.
P.S. President Aliyev is a reasonable man, respected, but now he is on the wrong side! There is nothing special to say about the Armenian glan ... he is an enemy, first of all for his people.

[Reptiloid]

...... for a RUSSIAN, SOVIET person ......

Victor After all, if you think about something terrible happens .... such hatred. Former republics of the USSR. USSR --- the world of my childhood. Of course, I did not know anything negative. But you can't imagine this possible then

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
The collapse of empires cannot be peaceful, bloodless, and it often lasts for a long time.
I, of course, could not imagine this, not everywhere, at least ... but then, I saw a lot and everyone. In some places everything was ripe, smoldering, and then spilled out very hot, painful!
It is bad that they could not or did not want to draw the correct conclusions. It is very likely that the rich have very much adopted the principle of "divide and rule" !!! Then a lot becomes very clear!

[Reptiloid]

....... the collapse of empires ... there is no bloodless ...

that's it, Victor. Someone said, from the highest, almost their merit of the calm collapse of the USSR. Not to mention the fact that it was not calm then, which continues now. Military action, economic crises and other worsening for people.

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

Someone said, from the highest,

They lied, over and over! That's nothing new, belief.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Quote: Reptiloid

Someone said, from the highest,

They lied, over and over! That's nothing new, belief.

And they lied, and kept silent, hid information. We did not have such an Internet then.

[rocket757]

The population was less informed ... but this did not prevent them from knowing enough, Schaub to draw correct conclusions.
He who does not trouble himself with reflections is still in blissful ignorance ...

[Reptiloid]

I see people like that sometimes, they are proud that they do not want to know

[rocket757]

They do not look for problems, they want to sleep well .... but problems still find them, and then oh and oh!

[Revolver]

Quote: MTN

The only way to protect yourself from Armenian fanaticism is not to allow them all to live compactly in Karabakh. Spread all over Azerbaijan.

Will they want to crumble? And in general, remain under the rule of Azerbaijan?They believe, and not without reason, that they will be cut out. It doesn't matter that the overwhelming majority of the people of Azerbaijan are peace-loving and not vindictive. It is enough to have a few people, or even just one, whose Armenians [killed, maimed, raped - underline the necessary, write in the missing] [father, mother, brother, sister, son, daughter - underline the necessary, write in the missing], or destroyed the house , or another four-thread. And this one angry, even if not without reason, person at one far from perfect moment may decide that he must pay off the Armenians, and even with interest. And then it will go by itself, because violence only generates violence, and the sight and smell of blood excites you to shed more.
So if the Armenian troops leave Karabakh, then the civilians will also run away. Tellingly, no one is waiting for them in Armenia, they are not going to support them, housing and jobs are absent. Europe and America, at best, will accept a symbolic number of refugees, but rather get off with a couple of humanitarian aid planes - well, there are blankets, tents, canned food, and other crap. And where will they go? That's right, to Russia, because there is nowhere else.

[Yujanin]

Now everything is stuck and only increases the losses on both sides.

You have absolutely no idea what military tactics are used in the fighting on the outskirts of Shusha and Stepanakert. Nothing stuck there. One of these days you will be convinced of this.

[rocket757]

I am not for war, for peace.

[Yujanin]

I am not for war, for peace.

When your lands are occupied, then we, too, will drown for peace.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Yujanin

When your lands are occupied, then we, too, will drown for peace.

so you always did that

[Crowe]

Quote: Balu

Armenians, suitcase, airport and blow to defend Karabakh. Azerbaijanis too, go to your home.

This is how many divisions there will be on both sides of the front! The Russian land will be empty without them! But neither one nor the other is eager for them. They are good at us too, they have sucked in - not to tear them away. there is no desire to attack with a gun at the ready ...

[Otshelnik]

Aliyev repeats this from the first day ... most likely he knows that the Armenians for many reasons will not be able to accept these demands. As a result, he earned a plus and can continue the war.

[tralflot1832]

Zyama is on the bow, in our mountains at Krasnaya Polyana snow fell, up to the level of 2 km. In Karabakh, what mountains are they high?

[Vadim237]

Snow is not a problem for troops, but even more so for artillery and aviation.

[novel66]

This is how many divisions will be on both sides of the front

such a bazaar will be arranged ... a Karabakh fair ...

[2 Level Advisor]

I understand it is about 7 regions that have never been Karabakh?

[Operator]

In the course of kraty Karabakh comes

[genisis]

Already in a row

krants to Karabakh

are coming?

[Vadim237]

Your map does not correspond to reality.

[genisis]

Because it reflects a reality that is different from yours?

[Vadim237]

Yes, you have your own reality - for the internal consumption of the Armenians and even then not distant.

[genisis]

Vadim, only my reality exists, yours is the pictures of drones, the reality of which you cannot even confirm to yourself.

[Vadim237]

The Azerbaijani army is on the way to Shushi - the Armenians themselves confirm this, and you, with your "reality", go to the madhouse and do not make yourself and others brains.

[genisis]

Here

Azerbaijani army on the way to Shushi

[genisis]

You reminded me: "Yes, his grenades are of the wrong system ..."
So, maybe it will be more comfortable for you to navigate this way?

[Yujanin]

Have the warriors approved NVG truck drivers ???

[Oquzyurd]

Excerpt of a map from the Armenian globe

[NTD]

Quote: Oquzyurd

Excerpt of a map from the Armenian globe

With David, only I will talk! ))))))))))) I love his fables)

[Yujanin]

Amshenets is a cool guy. Everywhere impersonates

[Senka naughty]

Aliyev received the last warning.

[rotmistr60]

the order to cease fire will be given "even today" if ...

And this is if it raises many questions. The fact is that Aliyev, hearing Erdogan's whisper over his shoulder, does not want to limit himself to 7 regions of Nagorno-Karabakh, but he already wants the whole of Karabakh. Therefore, all these statements, especially to the European media, are nothing more than political balancing act.

[Turanov]

According to Aliyev, the army has already liberated 4 regions. Three left ...

Here Aliyev, of course, is great for asking for negotiations, but the Armenians are unlikely to agree to this.
Pashinyan is a pawn and does not decide anything, Russia is silent gloomily watching and waiting.
On a good note, of course, all this could be stopped and blamed on Pashinyan and ... But it will start again later!
Let Armenia decide for itself what is more important for them .. Russia will fulfill its obligations on anyone!

[Bilal]

Quote: Tank Hard

Making a statement and executing it are completely different things. After all, they conclude a truce at an enviable frequency, so what?

And the fact that after the conclusion of an armistice, negotiations should begin. And what is the point in negotiations if Armenia is not ready to make concessions. And let no one say what and why Azerbaijan does not make concessions. Why should we make concessions ..? Have we occupied someone's territory? This is our land. But on the other hand, Armenians have also been living in Karabakh for almost 200 years. And until now, no one forbade them to live there. And today no one forbids it. Let them live as long as they want. And they will live ...
But do not appropriate what does not belong to you.

At the same time, Aliyev did not specify that the Azerbaijani troops are attempting to advance in the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, and not only along the perimeter of its borders.

What's so unusual about that? Write as if only 7 regions belong to us and the "Nagorno-Karabakh Republic" is not Azerbaijan. Strange wording of the proposal however ...

[Ural resident]

Quote: Bilal

Quote: Tank Hard

Making a statement and executing it are completely different things. After all, they conclude a truce at an enviable frequency, so what?

And the fact that after the conclusion of an armistice, negotiations should begin. And what is the point in negotiations if Armenia is not ready to make concessions. And let no one say what and why Azerbaijan does not make concessions. Why should we make concessions ..? Have we occupied someone's territory? This is our land. But on the other hand, Armenians have also been living in Karabakh for almost 200 years. And until now, no one forbade them to live there. And today no one forbids it. Let them live as long as they want. And they will live ...
But do not appropriate what does not belong to you.

At the same time, Aliyev did not specify that the Azerbaijani troops are attempting to advance in the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, and not only along the perimeter of its borders.

What's so unusual about that? Write as if only 7 regions belong to us and the "Nagorno-Karabakh Republic" is not Azerbaijan. Strange wording of the proposal however ...

The only question is that no one staged a new massacre. Where are the guarantees that some odious structures will not want to cleanse Karabakh from Armenians later? And of course, everyone can live in peace in one state, subject to security guarantees for everyone.

[Bilal]

Even if they want to, the reasonable will not allow this. And the government will certainly not allow this. And after 30-40 years, these peoples will again live like nothing and there was (of course, if the Armenians do not get up to new intrigues) ... Life and history remembers many such cases ...

[NTD]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

The only question is that no one staged a new massacre. Where are the guarantees that some odious structures will not want to cleanse Karabakh from Armenians later?

can you give guarantees to the Azerbaijani side that they will behave peacefully? Do you give a guarantee that after a few years they will not start asking for independence again?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: MTN

can you give guarantees to the Azerbaijani side that they will behave peacefully?

rather, you can give guarantees that they will definitely not behave peacefully. so, what is next? another "genocide of the Armenian people"? no need to make excuses, I know that the Armenians have already staged the genocide of Azerbaijanis there in 90 ... I'm not talking about who is "bad", who is "good".
here Azerbaijan achieved the same military successes, regained control over its territory and went to the Armenian border. then what? will you slaughter the local population (Armenians)?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Bilal

And the fact that after the conclusion of an armistice, negotiations should begin. And what is the point in negotiations if Armenia is not ready to make concessions. And let no one say what and why Azerbaijan does not make concessions. Why should we make concessions ..? Have we occupied someone's territory?

In my world, an individual is respected for keeping promises and is no longer respected for idle chatter. In your world, they can do whatever they want. This is your world.

[Toha from KZ]

Not politics, but clowning than a word.

[iouris]

Solomon: "No peace, no war, but the army - to dissolve!"

[Bilal]

Quote: genisis

Already in a row

krants to Karabakh

are coming?

Listen daragoy, and Ti checked his drawn map with those that show the real situation? And then, judging by your prehistoric ones, Fizuli and Hadrut, Gubadly Zyangilyan are still in your hands.

[Ural resident]

The declaration is correct, further to fight only soldiers to destroy their own. Moreover, Putin voiced his approval of 7 districts. It would be possible to come to an agreement on the wave of success now, but will the Armenian side agree to this? Aliyev has probably been warned that Russia will not be left on the sidelines in an attempt to conquer Karabakh itself. And what about the surrounding areas - it really looks strange: the areas are captured, no one lives there, but there are uncontrolled troops. But will there be confidence in Azerbaijan after all this war? Give back these areas and in a few years a new offensive will begin against Karabakh. Peacekeepers are needed there.

[askort154]

Aliyev announced his readiness to end hostilities "even today"

And what does the photo at the head of the article have to do with this?

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Sergey Mikhalkov
Sheep
On the steep mountain path
Black lamb walked home
And on the bridge a humpback
I met a white brother.

And the white ram said:
“Brother, here's the thing:
Here you can not go together,
You stand in my way "

The black brother replied: “Me
Are you in your, ram, mind?
Let my legs wither,
If I get out of the way! "

Shook one horns
I put my other feet on ...
No matter how cool you are
And together you can not pass.

The sun is baking from above
And below the river flows.
In this river early in the morning
Two sheep drowned.
[Source Kultura.RF: https://www.culture.ru/poems/45339/barany]

And some people are already breeding a brazier to eat halal lamb kebab!

(Well, it is clear who I mean ... and bites with tomatoes, which I got off with ...)
And it's regrettable

[Revolver]

Quote: RealPilot

And some people are already breeding a brazier to eat halal lamb kebab!

(Well, it is clear who I mean ... and bites with tomatoes, which I got off with ...)

The drowned, even quite fresh, are not halal, because they are not kosher. Muhammad copied the rules for slaughtering livestock almost entirely from the Jews. And kosher slaughter can only be done with a knife in the throat, and not otherwise.

[Angivin]

It is not the first time that Aliyev has made such statements, which, along with bellicose statements, creates a certain balance in his speeches. Good old carrot and stick. A very competent approach.

[alexandr_vd]

Let it be Pashinyan (Karach) n!
For the betrayal of Soros!
People (a crowd of rams - sorry)!
Alexander

[Old26]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Yes, winter is coming. And they didn't stock up on winter uniforms ... So he started talking about the truce. Low cloudiness, precipitation, the efficiency of the UAV will decrease greatly, taking the advantage of the Azerbaijanis ... We must fix the luck while the trams are running ...

And before that, the Azerbaijani army did not have winter uniforms? And they probably have mountains this summer? Therefore, we did not stock up on winter uniforms .... What nonsense ???
The number of UAV sorties has decreased, not only due to low cloud cover, but due to the fact that there is no longer a need for such a number of sorties, which was a month ago. The worthy goals have become much smaller.
As for the truce, Aliyev voiced this repeatedly with the condition that the Armenian formations be withdrawn from the occupied territories ...

Quote: Mavrikiy

Aliyev is smart, you have to be able to make a good face in a bad game. Karabakh was not taken,

I haven’t heard that somewhere it was said that Karabakh should be taken by a specific date, for example, the Day of Unity or the Day of the Great October Socialist Revolution. As they usually say, it's not over yet. Having an army plus reserves at least 1,5 times more than that of Armenia and Karabakh combined, equipped with high-precision weapons, it is deeply thought that they had to take it by some time. And the fall of Karabakh is only a time factor

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

az. overloads forces will purchase long-range large-caliber artillery pieces

Why buy long-range artillery? As far as it is known from open sources, Azerbaijan did not have losses of artillery guns in this conflict. And the tools available:
• ACS "Msta-S" = 18
• ACS "Dana M-77" = 9
• ACS "ATMOS-2000 = 5
• ACS "Pion" = 12

Towed guns
• 130 mm M-46 = 36
• 152 mm 2A36 "Hyacinth-B" = 18
• 152 mm D-20 = 24
Total: 44 self-propelled guns and 78 towed long-range guns

Quote: rotmistr60

And this is if it raises many questions. The fact is that Aliyev, hearing Erdogan's whisper over his shoulder, does not want to limit himself to 7 regions of Nagorno-Karabakh, but he already wants the whole of Karabakh. Therefore, all these statements, especially to the European media, are nothing more than political balancing act.

Gennady! He stated this without "Erdogan's whisper". Karabakh has ALWAYS been an autonomous region of Azerbaijan. And always, incl. and in the resolutions of the UN Security Council, Armenia was proposed to liberate 7 occupied regions of Azerbaijan and the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region ...
Therefore, this is not a political balancing act for the Western media, but a maximum program - to completely free the territory of your country from the invaders.

Quote: Resident of the Urals

Aliyev has probably been warned that Russia will not be left on the sidelines in an attempt to conquer Karabakh itself.

That is, the head of another country is prohibited from liberating his own territory? In fact, the decisions made several years ago in Kazan were as follows. Return of 7 regions to Azerbaijan and negotiations on the status of Nagorno-Karabakh. But Armenia did not fulfill these agreements either, although the same Azerbaijan offered wide autonomy to Karabakh. And now he will be forbidden to bring the work of liberation to its logical conclusion? Do you think Putin is so short-sighted? To "snatch" what is called a victory from the hands of Azerbaijan for the sake of it is not clear what attitude Armenia has towards us and hope for good relations in the future? I do not think that Putin did not calculate all this. Russia can give Azerbaijan one condition - NO ETHNIC CLEANERS.
And, by the way, Azerbaijan can solve the problem of Karabakh and its belonging once and for all. Enter the territory of Karabakh as separate regions into Azerbaijan and no autonomy ...

[NTD]

Quote: Old26

Russia can give Azerbaijan one condition - NO ETHNIC CLEANERS.

Can Russia give guarantees that the Armenians will not behave like separatists? Will they not ask for independence in the future?

[Vadim237]

They will not ask for independence in the future. To counteract this, the law came out - they will raise a whirlwind and they will all have a khan.

[fif21]

Getting into shit is easy! But getting out of it is difficult. He wants to recognize Karabakh as Azeri. For a long time more will pour blood on their Wishlist.

[Vadim237]

Azerbaijan will not return control over all of Karabakh and will not knock out all the armed Armenian units from there, it will not calm down and the war will continue until this moment - the result is already there, and a significant 41% of the territory of Karabakh is already under Azerbaijani troops - in the next week, Red Bazaar and Shushi will most likely be taken and there the road to Stepanakert is open - now the most important task is to knock out the Armenians with the maximum artillery and equipment, which the drones are doing very well.

[Old26]

Quote: MTN

Quote: Old26

Russia can give Azerbaijan one condition - NO ETHNIC CLEANERS.

Can Russia give guarantees that the Armenians will not behave like separatists? Will they not ask for independence in the future?

Comrade! As they said in Soviet times, "Only an insurance policy gives a 100% guarantee"
Of course, Russia cannot give such a guarantee. But the "soil for separatism" can be knocked out. Even 15 years ago, before the next elections in Russia, Zhirinovsky expressed a far from stupid idea. Eliminate all autonomies as state formations, and leave them in the form or regions, or enter into a larger subject of the federation, but not as autonomies. Partially there is. The North Caucasian Federal District includes the Stavropol Territory and the republics of the North Caucasus. It remains to take a few more steps - to introduce republics as regions into a larger structure.
So it is in Azerbaijan. Not to leave the Nagorno-Karabakh region, as a subject of the Azerbaijan Republic, but to "rip" it into regions and introduce them as regions into the structure of the state. Then you can be partially guaranteed in the absence of separatism.

Quote: fif21

Getting into shit is easy! But getting out of it is difficult. He wants to recognize Karabakh as Azeri. For a long time more will pour blood on their Wishlist.

And he is recognized by all as Azerbaijani. Besides Armenia

[Bilal]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Bilal

And the fact that after the conclusion of an armistice, negotiations should begin. And what is the point in negotiations if Armenia is not ready to make concessions. And let no one say what and why Azerbaijan does not make concessions. Why should we make concessions ..? Have we occupied someone's territory?

In my world, an individual is respected for keeping promises and is no longer respected for idle chatter. In your world, they can do whatever they want. This is your world.

And you can ask a question: What kind of planet are you from? Just no offense ... How do you know everything in my world is allowed? OUR WORLD ... For all MANKIND ... How romantic, poetic, etc. these words would not have sounded, but in the Caucasus the WORD has always been in price ... And now, in many ways, it is ...

Quote: Old26

Russia can give Azerbaijan one condition - NO ETHNIC CLEANERS.

I think for Russia the main thing is not ethnic cleansing (although this condition is possible, it also takes place.). Because Russia knew perfectly well from the very beginning that there would be no purges. Do you think Azerbaijan is stupid enough to cause anger and hatred of everyone? We don't need any purges. We have lived with them until now and will continue to live. Whether we like it or not, they are our neighbors. Allah (God) determined so and we do not choose ...
The main thing here, I think, Russia has secured Azerbaijan's "word of honor" that there will be no NATO bases (secret or official) in Azerbaijan. For Russia, the main thing is not to have a "base" in the neighborhood ...

[Yuriy71]

Why is this so? Blitzkrieg choked?