Anniversary Mikhalkov reflects on the "tangle of friends" in the program "Besogon"

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The conflicts of the modern world are a tangle of contradictions that are twisting more and more dashingly. The ups and downs of all kinds of protests break out in some places, before they have time to fade away, the conflict situation manifests itself in other places: Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, the outbreak of the war in Karabakh, against this background, fever in Europe, where the radicals decided to say their word.

Protests give way to terrorist attacks. Terrorist attacks are protests. Elections in the United States lead to a whole series of conflicts within this state. The BLM movement dictates its agenda, their opponents theirs. Trump supporters literally drive a bus with agitators for Biden and Harris in a convoy of cars. In response, Republican observers have been restricted from entering polling stations. All this was accompanied by pogroms in the streets and reports of new police brutality.



The topic of instability in the modern world, the problem of deformation of public consciousness, basic values ​​in his "Besogon" is raised by the hero of the day Nikita Mikhalkov. It shows what colossal sums have been spent in the United States and continue to be spent on "phony" support for democracy abroad. And this despite the fact that now the United States itself has become a hotbed of instability, confrontation, chaos, and intolerance. That is, they themselves have gigantic problems, but billions of dollars of financing continue to be allocated to undermine other countries.

The issue of foreign grants for Russian universities is also raised. These grants often come from non-governmental (non-profit) organizations. But what is the purpose of this kind of funding? To increase the number of compassionate "Kol from Urengoy" in Russia?

The topic of the Yeltsin Center was also touched upon.

Video "Tangle of Friends" on the channel "Besogon TV":

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    1. +5
      3 November 2020 19: 59
      All decades after the October Revolution, the anti-Soviet-Russophobic West unleashed armed wars, waged vicious, deceitful information wars, staged coups d'état in countries around the world. And after the seizure of the republics of the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe by the enemies of the communists, they also began to unleash armed wars and vicious, deceitful information wars, both against dissidents, and against each other, to arrange coups d'état. The enemies of the communists cannot exist calmly and peacefully.
      1. +3
        3 November 2020 20: 05
        Quote: tatra
        The enemies of the communists cannot exist calmly and peacefully.

        So what to do?
        1. +2
          3 November 2020 23: 49
          strengthen the army and navy smile
      2. -5
        3 November 2020 20: 12
        Irina, hello! love
        Only from the mouth of this head / f / equal sycophant such things sound like
        confession of a demon after another, naturally unsuccessful, self-exorcism.
        He cannot hide from his own rotten soul.
        1. +2
          4 November 2020 01: 10
          The facts of sycophancing in the studio

          I repeat: if Mikhalkov was a sycophant, then he would hold on to the air of Russia 1. And his Besogon, as you know, was constantly removed from the air before, and after hitting Gref / Gates, he generally does not go to the "state" channel Russia 1.
          1. +5
            4 November 2020 14: 30
            Ahaha ... the "poor thing" suffered - they will not be allowed on channel P1! Duc it was warmed in "priest". Not kosher? Is that why all the noise? How ridiculous and pitiful you are with your besogon obscurantist ... What other facts do you lack? He will watch all his meetings-awards with the "bunkeroman" and ask a question why he favors him. If it doesn't work the first time, repeat over and over. Here I am not your assistant.
      3. 0
        4 November 2020 01: 07
        Quote: tatra
        The enemies of the communists cannot exist calmly and peacefully.


        what have the communists got to do with it?
        I am also a supporter of the USSR, but I understand that enemies have always been for 500 years now as specifically against Russia, and not just the USSR
        1. +2
          4 November 2020 08: 59
          And what does your comment have to do with it? I wrote specifically about the enemies of the communists. What, should all their crimes be justified by what happened 500 years ago?
    2. -10
      3 November 2020 20: 59
      Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov is a worthy heir to the Russian nobility .. Honest, talented. a famous person . Envious people and ill-wishers of such people were, are, will always be. The modern Mikhalkovs are descendants of the Golitsyn princes. https://cbsctepnoe.ucoz.ru/article/surikovy-mikhalkovy-konchalovskie.pdf
      1. +7
        3 November 2020 21: 07
        Mikhalkov is an excellent example of the pre-revolutionary parasitic landlord nobility. And all his merits are only in the USSR. While enriching himself in anti-Soviet Russia, as a director and actor, he did nothing talented, did not bring any benefit to Russia. And "Oscar" received exclusively for the ANTI-Soviet.
        1. +4
          3 November 2020 23: 48
          Quote: tatra
          Mikhalkov is an excellent example of the pre-revolutionary parasitic landlord nobility.

          I do not like him. There is a lot of noise from him, but there are few decent films, and no more than two good ones. And then he got into politics.
        2. -2
          4 November 2020 01: 05
          Quote: tatra
          Mikhalkov is an excellent example of the pre-revolutionary parasitic landlord nobility


          Same as Suvorov / Ushakov / Mendeleev, right? Or how are their descendants? you mean that since a nobleman means an enemy of Russia, right?

          Quote: tatra
          And all his merits are only in the USSR


          So what? Mikhalkov hayal the USSR? All the time, the USSR was just complaining about nothing good about the USSR?
          Facts can I go to the studio?
      2. -6
        3 November 2020 21: 08
        Quote: 30 vis
        Envious people and ill-wishers of such people were, are, will always be.

        This is confirmed by the minuses of haters and spiteful critics .. Envy is one of the most destructive and, unfortunately, one of the most common human sins.
        1. -2
          3 November 2020 22: 28
          Minusators have swooped down - the detractors for the "fatherland" ... Just to understand what else and where is their "fatherland" ... Either Ukraine, or Israel ... Funny people ...
        2. -1
          4 November 2020 01: 03
          Yuri,
          everything is simpler here. There are white / red patriots. And there are “fiery United Russia members”. Who violently imitate patriotism in order to have a quiet haven in the foreign country.
          And the fiery United Russia members have officials. Not normal civil servants, hard workers, but the very ones who, at our expense, during working hours, on the instructions of the owners from above, click on the keyboard and fill such forums with themselves.
          And the people have the impression that everyone is against people like Mikhalkov, but for the conditional "United Russia"
      3. +22
        3 November 2020 21: 23
        Quote: 30 vis
        Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov is a worthy heir to the Russian nobility .. Honest, talented. a famous person . Envious people and ill-wishers of such people were, are, will always be. The modern Mikhalkovs are the descendants of the Golitsyn princes.

        You have not yet pacified? And how do you think the Galitsins flogged their slaves or you, too, like, from Rurikovich?
        And now the question is, who did more for Russia, Zhores Alferov, a peasant son, or a sugary to vomit sucker, like, Prince Nikitka?
        1. +1
          3 November 2020 22: 28
          Colleague, do not interfere with the "ventriloquist" putreots. winked

          A fragment from the movie "Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls" (1995)
        2. -3
          4 November 2020 00: 58
          Quote: Stroporez
          who did more for Russia? Zhores Alferov, a peasant son, or a sugary sweetie to vomit


          What a stupid question? In the sense of who is cooler - Lomonosov or Suvorov?
          Why are you comparing two worthy people? And contrast the red patriot with the white patriot?
          Or are you also a fiery United Russia party, for whom death is like a union of red patriots with whites against you, who violently imitate patriotism so that their masters from the ruling party / officials have accounts abroad and children in Harvard?
          1. +8
            4 November 2020 06: 33
            Quote: Magadan
            Or are you a fiery United Russia too

            fiery United Russia is Mikhalkov, and I don’t need to talk about his putriotism.
            1. +1
              4 November 2020 07: 52
              Mikhalkov is a patriot.
              Fiery United Russia members are introducing juvenile fascism, coronation, protection of homeless dogs with might and main, while posing as patriots and building palaces in Courchevel.
              And Mikhalkov just exposes such "patriots".
              And you, my friend, already sound like a liberal - Russophobe
              1. +8
                4 November 2020 08: 02
                Quote: Magadan
                Fiery United Russia members are introducing juvenile fascism, coronation, protection of homeless dogs with might and main, while posing as patriots and building palaces in Courchevel.
                And Mikhalkov just exposes such "patriots".

                Well yes? Here one wrote that, they say, if gays come to his city, he will have them ... well, in general, he is not very happy, only he did not catch up with the essence, they are already here and not only here, but at the very top and are writing for you laws, and Mikhalkov defends this very power, but disguises himself as a putriot.
                Quote: Magadan
                And you, my friend, already sound like a liberal - Russophobe

                It's not me that sounds like that, but a zombie box sounds in your head and this is your real problem.
                1. +5
                  4 November 2020 14: 43
                  Colleague hi,
                  in that "attic" the "evening m" sounds and the "cuckoo" has left those lands forever.
      4. +9
        3 November 2020 22: 02
        Quote: 30 vis
        Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov is a worthy heir to the Russian nobility .. Honest, talented. a famous person . Envious people and ill-wishers of such people were, are, will always be. The modern Mikhalkovs are the descendants of the Golitsyn princes.

        How is a nobleman different from a non-nobleman? And who cares whose descendant he is ... why is this an indicator for you? The indicator of a public figure is the result of his activities. Do you see any positive changes in the country? I do not, I only see degradation .. Mikhalkov raises often necessary problems .. but neatly bypasses those who are actually the main organizers of these problems. Here I liked his film, about endangered villages .. and what's the point, the government after a year began to optimize medicine .. As Irina correctly noted, all his creative achievements remained in the USSR .. and then only anti-Sovietism .. but his father supported or was pretending .. the USSR, was an ardent educator so to speak .. and Mikhalkov suddenly stopped supporting ..
        In my opinion, this is an excellent opportunist, smart, talented .. but a opportunist .. like the overwhelming majority of nobles .. who used the fact that they had the opportunity to receive knowledge, education, high-quality food .. but ordinary people did not have .. enjoyed.
        1. 0
          4 November 2020 00: 54
          Quote: Svarog
          In my opinion, this is an excellent opportunist, smart, talented .. but a timeserver ..


          Well, in my opinion, this is a Patriot of Russia and a worthy man
          And if he were a "time-goer", he would not butt with greeks and other elite currency ... hmm ..
          Have you forgotten that Mikhalkov lost air on the Russia 1 channel?
          Is that what opportunists do in your opinion?

          But I think you are one of these fiery United Russia members, loyal zaputintsy and professional "patriots". Who begins to throw boogers at every more or less worthy person. Just to prevent true patriots from uniting around worthy people
          1. +3
            4 November 2020 07: 07
            Yeah, they moved away from the trough, so he began to criticize.
            If one recalls from his peers-directors, then Menshov is definitely who ... he didn't turn left and right, but in films and in interviews he held a clear and unambiguous position.
            1. +1
              4 November 2020 07: 55
              Quote: Turist1996
              moved away from the trough, so he began to criticize.


              it has already been taken off the air more than once. So it's not about the feeder. He deliberately went into confrontation with the current "masters of life."
              Thank God that there are people like Mikhalkov who openly defend traditional values ​​and disclose all the filth of the current leaders.
              You probably haven't seen that Besogon, where Mikhalkov bulldozed Narusova (Sobchak's wife, member of the Federation Council)
      5. 0
        3 November 2020 23: 58
        Quote: 30 vis
        Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov is a worthy heir to the Russian nobility ..
        Generals, scientists, conquerors of hearts. Outstanding descendants of Anton Devier, relatives of the Mikhalkov brothers.
        Few Portuguese left a mark on the history of foreign countries, equal to Devier and his descendants in Russia.
        José Milhazes, Portuguese
        historian.
    3. +6
      3 November 2020 21: 06
      Russia! Do you smell this strange itch ?! Three Mikhalkov creep on you! (c) Gaft.
      ..
      Barin. Hereditary courtier. The nightingale is beautifully singing. Listening to (watching, reading) is just killing time.
      1. +2
        3 November 2020 21: 29
        Quote: Svetlana
        Russia! Do you smell this strange itch ?! Three Mikhalkov are crawling over you! (c) Gaft.

        Valentin Gaft was born in Moscow into a Jewish family who came from Priluki. His father - Joseph Ruvimovich Gaft (1907-1969), a military lawyer of the 3rd rank, a participant in the Great Patriotic War (from 1941 to March 1944 he fought on the Western Front, was awarded the medal "For Military Merit" [2] [3]), after the war he worked as a lawyer in legal advice on the Leningradskoe highway; mother, Gita Davydovna Gaft (1908-1993), was a housewife [4].
        Valentin Gaft has been married several times. The first wife is a fashion model Elena Dmitrievna Izergina [9]. The second wife is the ballerina Inna Sergeevna Eliseeva [10], their daughter Olga was born, but in the early 1980s Gaft and Eliseeva divorced. Daughter, Olga Valentinovna Eliseeva (1973-2002), committed suicide on August 24, 2002 [10] [11]. The current wife (since 1996) is the actress Olga Ostroumova, under whose influence Valentin Gaft was baptized into Orthodoxy [12]. Illegitimate son - Vadim Nikitin (born 1971

        As an actor, I always liked Gaft, why smear the name with politics?
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      2. -3
        4 November 2020 00: 50
        Quote: Svetlana
        Barin. Hereditary courtier.


        And?
        Suvorov, Ushakov, Pushkin, Lermontov, Kutuzov ... still to continue? They were also gentlemen. Hereditary courtiers. Hereditary Servants of the Russian State. And they now have living descendants.
        What do you dislike about descendants of nobles?
        1. -1
          4 November 2020 08: 13
          Quote: Magadan
          Quote: Svetlana
          Barin. Hereditary courtier.


          And?
          Suvorov, Ushakov, Pushkin, Lermontov, Kutuzov ... still to continue? They were also gentlemen. Hereditary courtiers. Hereditary Servants of the Russian State. And they now have living descendants.
          What do you dislike about descendants of nobles?

          Pushkin, Lermontov, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Gogol, the chain of these names can be continued indefinitely. This is the glory of Russia! Her voice and Conscience. And all the nobles of noble families. Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Mikhail Ivanovich GLINKA, Alexander Porfirevich BORODIN, RIMSKY-KORSAKOV, SKRYABIN, Sergey Vasilievich RACHMANINOV, STRAVINSKY, PROKOFIEV, SHOSTAKOVI these are composers! There are also artists, poets, politicians, And the cherry on the cake Vladimir Ilyich Lenin -Ulyanov is also of noble origin!
      3. 0
        5 November 2020 07: 39
        but the fact that in the meaning of this epigram about something completely different apparently does not bother anyone?)))
    4. -3
      3 November 2020 21: 15
      And Mikhalaov is an arthropod arachnid in this tangle of friends.
    5. -4
      3 November 2020 22: 41
      Does he 1 pisses me off? am
    6. +8
      3 November 2020 23: 35
      He named his program correctly.

      And who he was in a past life, I'm not very interested.
    7. -1
      4 November 2020 00: 47
      I support Mikhalkov and all those who, to the best of their ability, are fighting the corrupt elite-currency contingent.
      And I congratulate everyone on today's Day of the Liberation of Russia from foreign invaders and their elite bedding, the then leaders.
      Thank God, forces were found at that time that saved the country from its destruction. I note that that victory took place with the active direct participation of the soldiers from Kazan, who came to the aid of Minin and Pozharsky, although she could sit quietly on the sidelines.
    8. +2
      4 November 2020 04: 22
      Vane. The softest thing I can say about him. Survival in any mode, this is its main goal, but not just like that, but to have enough bread.
      And comparing him with Alferov and even more so with other NAMES of the sons of Russia is like comparing a balloon and a balloon.
      And after the presentation of the star of the hero of labor to Rotenberg, this insignia was devalued as a ruble in 2014. Fortunately, this is already a reward for the new Russia, otherwise Stalin would have turned over in his grave, to be on a par with such figures.
      1. +1
        4 November 2020 05: 06
        Quote: brostem_2019
        Vane. The softest thing I can say about him


        It has long been clear: any worthy person who will oppose all Grefs with Chubais, as well as all Jews who, fervently talking about patriotism, are building villas in the foreign country, will be showered with boogers and poop.

        In you say "weather vane". Explain to me, where is Mikhalkov's "weathering" now? What did he get from the fact that he lost air on the Russia channel?

        And this Mikhalkov is not alone. The same Strelkov, who raised the Donbass and set up the first cauldron for dill, was also showered with boogers, either venal or unwise. With the same "rationale" as I now hear from opponents of Mikhalkov
        1. 0
          5 November 2020 13: 47
          I will decipher about the weather vane ...
          I am ALWAYS frankly irritated by hypocrisy and sycophancy .. These qualities are inherent in this person, there are enough examples.
          Sitting in a warm chair and discussing like this, by the way, is the work of THIS GREAT figure. Take a shovel and work nobleman ...
          A simple example from life, my life in the Far East region. One of the departments last year reported with pride that in the Ensk region, all schools have toilets in school premises, and street toilets have been defeated. 21 century......
          Second example, sorry about the toilets again. At one of the budget enterprises, there is a toilet for workers in which water is drained from bottles, and hands can also be washed from a bottle. By the nature of the activity, I had to work at this enterprise. On the third day I told myself that I cannot work like that, heh ... with this money I will buy a crane-axle box for the crane and put it on so that I can wash my hands normally and not get sick with any hepatitis. I did not have time, on day 3 another employee bought a crane for the axle box and it was solemnly installed ........
          So those who are outside the principality of Moscow are not up to great thoughts, to feed the family and not bend themselves.
          As long as "our" leaders have storage sheds over the hill, children have money and a homeland there, they will need these pocket whistlers all the time. Whistling nightingale ...............
          1. 0
            10 November 2020 19: 04
            And here you, Vanya, are absolutely right. Until the confiscation of property from the embezzlers is returned, and they themselves are sentenced to life imprisonment without the right of pardon ... we will continue to sip ...
    9. +1
      4 November 2020 05: 10
      Hey people, ayuuu!

      One of the poopers will finally justify me it is logical what is wrong with Mikhalkov now.

      According to his nobility, I replied: if you want to hold on for the nobility, then hold on to Ushakov and Suvorov at once.

      What other arguments do you have: Ms. Tatra, Mr. Stroporez, Mr. Lexus?

      Or do you please be blown away?
      1. +4
        4 November 2020 07: 15
        Didn't you get enough sleep, or what?
        There are only one arguments - in his post-Soviet films, Pan Mikhalkov very diligently doused the Soviet period in the history of his own country, was extremely zealous about the introduction of a "tax on flash drives", the beneficiary of which was almost obvious.
        And now he suddenly began to "denounce the regime." Why should there be faith in him ?!
        1. -1
          4 November 2020 08: 01
          Quote: Turist1996
          extremely diligently doused the Soviet period in the history of his own country


          I don’t see the mud-slinging in the fact that he filmed the truth about the execution of white officers, whom the Lenin-Trotsky had invited to Russia in such a mean way.
          And there was really nothing good in those shootings and that terror.
          And, by the way, this is precisely why Stalin then finished off all the "loyal Leninists."
          The history of Russia in the 20th century is indeed very difficult. And it doesn't matter if you are red or white.
          Now the main thing is the PATRIOT. Which Mikhalkov is
          And as much as he can resist the gang that is dragging juvenile, sex education, animal protection (due to human deaths), family violence, coronavirus and other abominations to Russia
          1. +3
            4 November 2020 08: 48
            Quote: Magadan
            And it doesn't matter if you are red or white.

            Alexey, it's very important.
        2. +3
          4 November 2020 08: 17
          Quote: Turist1996
          The arguments are the same - in his post-Soviet films, Pan Mikhalkov very diligently threw mud at the Soviet period of the history of his own country, was extremely zealous about the introduction of a "tax on flash drives", the beneficiary of which was almost obvious

          And from the human side - to kick in the face of the person whose guards are holding ... an extremely noble and highly spiritual act ...
      2. +4
        4 November 2020 07: 46
        Younger and quicker ones were pushed away from the trough, so he began to cut the "truth-womb". Bee against honey, Christmas tree sticks ..
        1. 0
          4 November 2020 07: 56
          Quote: Turist1996
          Younger and faster ones were moved away from the feeder

          Well, if you consider that among these "pushed aside" a bunch of his nephews and relatives, then they didn’t really push it aside ... something didn’t follow - they left him a flashing light, otherwise he was so worried, so worried ...
        2. +1
          4 November 2020 08: 04
          Does this "truth-womb" bother you with something? Don't you like to hear this truth?
          Better not talk about her at all, so what? Let them quietly drag all this homosexual trash to Russia?
          So it turns out, as soon as at least someone normal starts to fight with any evil, then all the evil spirits, having nothing to object, begins to throw poop
          I don't mean you. I hope you are just genuinely wrong
          1. 0
            4 November 2020 08: 11
            Quote: Magadan
            So it comes out as soon as at least someone normal

            If you were trying to understand what they are writing to you, then you would have understood that the main message is precisely the doubt and disbelief of the "normality" of this individual ..
            1. +2
              4 November 2020 08: 19
              Okay, let's do this:

              In Russia, now they are promoting LGBT people without hiding, and for my and your money. Here's a look at what's on in our cinemas:

              https://trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=Laid&sid=62445
              "Another" cultural "sabotage with the support of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation"

              Mikhalkov is fighting this as best he can.

              And you start a showdown on who is the greatest patriot of the USSR.
              Yes, we all, including Mikhalkov, Shakhnazarov and other worthy people love the USSR, treating the destruction of the Russian Empire by the Lenin-Trotsky in different ways.

              Now Russia itself is being destroyed. Do you understand this? Moreover, the destruction of the sly under patriotic slogans and the Immortal Regiment.
              Just stop harassing those who are fighting for Russia. Whether he is red or white is not important.
              Even if he is mistaken about Putin or does not openly oppose him.
              Now we should at least save our families, our traditions, our cultures, damn it from the aggressive homosexual minority!
              1. +2
                4 November 2020 08: 22
                Quote: Magadan
                Moreover, the destruction of the sly under patriotic slogans and the Immortal Regiment.

                Quote: Magadan
                Mikhalkov is fighting this as best he can.

                That's exactly what "seems" - the US and US-2 just reveal everything very well ...
      3. -1
        4 November 2020 07: 58
        Quote: Magadan
        According to his nobility, I replied: if you want to hold on for the nobility, then hold on to Ushakov and Suvorov at once.

        In light of the type of holiday - will M.G.Saltykov and Yu.N. Trubetskoy fit?
      4. 0
        4 November 2020 08: 15
        Quote: Magadan
        What other arguments do you have: Ms. Tatra, Mr. Stroporez, Mr. Lexus?

        It seems to me alone that these "amateurs are all bastards" of Russia are scribbling their comments from Ukraine, Israel, Estonia and Poland ... Such Tobacco .... from the Mowgli cartoon ... https: //youtu.be/Yd8Wi8uxQUE
        1. 0
          4 November 2020 08: 19
          Quote: 30 vis
          It seems to me alone that these "amateurs" are scribbling their comments from Ukraine and Israel, Estonia and Poland ...

          When it seems that they say Novopasit helps, well, or a prayer ... Have you been a Nazi long ago?
      5. +2
        4 November 2020 08: 46
        Quote: Magadan
        Hey people, ayuuu!

        Someone from the kakashokidatel will finally justify it logically for me what is wrong with Mikhalkov now.

        Alexey, I am impressed that you are defending Mikhalkov so ardently. With Mikhalkov, everything is so. He feels very well where the wind will blow .. in that direction and starts looking. If it hadn't been throwing mud at the Soviet past, the attitude towards it would have been much better .. Here Konchalovsky, his brother, recently repented that he threw mud at Stalin and this is commendable .. there is a video on YouTube ..
      6. 0
        4 November 2020 23: 40
        Quote: Magadan
        Hey people, ayuuu!

        I will add: almost all commentators immediately "forgot" about the topic of his [Mikhalkov's] issue. Perhaps those listed by you (and many more on VO) are just the heroes of this program. Of course, they get the hell of a whole and tenths of the announced budgets, but "you don't need a knife for a fool" (c). The program is interesting, like the previous ones.
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    11. +1
      5 November 2020 06: 40
      Mikhalkov is telling the truth!
    12. 0
      5 November 2020 17: 32
      Quote: 30 vis
      Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov is a worthy heir to the Russian nobility ..

      You have exaggerated this too much.
      He would not have been worth it if he were chopping the truth-uterus from the shoulder, and not carefully calibrated and castrated criticism coordinated with the Old Square.

      Where was your beloved NickMikh, when EdRossy took away 5 years of pension payments?
      What did N. Mikhalkov, who came to the president, say when they massacred and expelled Russian people from Central Asia?
      And there are so many "where" and "what".

      Films are brilliant.
      Political attempts are hypocritically dull.

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