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Pashinyan to Israel: Send your humanitarian aid to mercenaries and terrorists

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Pashinyan to Israel: Send your humanitarian aid to mercenaries and terrorists

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan accused Israel of supporting Azerbaijan in the armed conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. He stated this in an interview with The Jerusalem Post.


According to the Armenian Prime Minister, Israel has united with Turkey, terrorists and Syrian mercenaries, supporting Azerbaijan, which intends to "carry out genocide against Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh."

I think Israel should think about the following: mercenaries, Islamic terrorists and Israel are on the same side now. So Israel should consider whether this is really a convenient situation for it?

- Pashinyan noted, adding that Israeli drones are "actively used in the war."

In addition, the Armenian prime minister reacted extremely negatively to Israel's offer to provide humanitarian aid to Armenia.

Humanitarian aid from a country that sells to mercenaries weaponused by them to strike at peaceful civilians? I invite Israel to channel this assistance to mercenaries and terrorists as a logical continuation of this activity.

- he said.

The Armenian prime minister cited concrete evidence of Turkey's mobilization of Syrian mercenaries to participate in hostilities in the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, and also expressed satisfaction that many countries in the Middle East, including Iran, are "concerned about Turkey's actions."
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  1. MTN
    MTN 3 November 2020 09: 38 New
    -10 qualifying.
    Don't be a noisy little magpie and whose cow would moan .............
    1. Machito
      Machito 3 November 2020 10: 13 New
      15
      Everyone is guilty except Pashinyan.
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 3 November 2020 16: 33 New
        +6
        I would take and buy the same weapon from Israel. I think the Jews would not refuse.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 3 November 2020 16: 48 New
          +4
          It is, of course, funny, but for some reason it is silent in the direction of Russia, which also supplied weapons to Azerbaijan, as it supplied to Armenia.
          Silence, Soros! But for some reason I think that he and Biney will come to an agreement privately (well, he will get a couple of cuffs and a couple of bruises from Bini) ...
        2. Machito
          Machito 3 November 2020 17: 52 New
          +4
          Quote: Alex Justice
          I would take and buy the same weapon from Israel. I think the Jews would not refuse.

          Business is business. Israel would make money on both sides.
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 3 November 2020 22: 42 New
            0
            how is russia?
        3. miru mir
          miru mir 3 November 2020 22: 42 New
          -1
          would refuse
    2. vlad.baryatinsky
      vlad.baryatinsky 3 November 2020 10: 46 New
      -4
      Salam!
      Quote: MTN
      Don't be a noisy little weed

      I certainly understand Mr. Pashinyan!
      But apparently this husband has forgotten who he chooses as his "enemies"!
      From a moral point of view (if such a verb is applicable in politics), it can be understood.
      But without thoroughly and indiscriminately accusing the State of Israel of "sponsoring" radical religious terrorists, this is, to put it mildly, stupid and not far-sighted.
      At the same time, referring to dubious sources and not citing specific facts, most likely comes down to an emotional and inadequate nervous breakdown.
      Really surrounded by the current hands. There are no literate people in Armenia who soberly assess the situation, who would explain to him about the thoughtfulness and careful weighing of their demarches in relation to sovereign states! ??
      This morning, for example, such TV channels and publications as: Reuters, La Republika, TF 1, on the basis of their correspondents accredited in the DB zone in Karabakh, declared that they were on the side of Ar. immigrants from Greece, Argentina, France, Lebanon, Syria and many other countries are fighting.
      Even an extremely nationalist right-wing organization like the * Zouaves of Paris * was spotted.
      And in his entourage (Pashinyan) voices are heard that he would more resolutely defend national interests before the Russian Federation.
      In my opinion (of course subjective) The people of Armenia deserve a better leader than the one they have.
      Summing up my comment I wanted to add the following.
      Israel knows and remembers well both its friends and enemies!
      Especially enemies.
      And if Mr. Pashinyan thinks that he can get away with indiscriminately blaming Israel for what He himself is fighting for, then Israel's "hands" are "long".
      So long that if necessary, He will reach Him wherever He is.
      Even from Mr. Soros's bedroom!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 3 November 2020 12: 37 New
        -5
        Nagorno-Karabakh does not belong to Azerbaijan by RIGHT. The world knows about this, but ignores the law. And Baku uses this as a permit for genocide.
        "Nagorno-Karabakh is Azerbaijan!" - this is the cry with which Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev sent his army and terrorists to the meat-grinder war. Hthe documents on Nagorno-Karabakh (NK) adopted by Baku itself or with its participation prove the opposite.
        DOCUMENT 1: Decision of the 5th Committee of the Assembly of the League of Nations of 20.11.1920 on the rejection of Azerbaijan's request for admission to the League of Nations due to its territorial disputes (League of Nations. The Records of the First Assembly. Meetings of the Committees II. Geneva, 1920, p. 173-174).
        Excerpt from the doc: “... Is it possible to admit to the League of Nations a state that obviously does not meet the conditions established by the Charter of the League, and in particular the requirement concerning stability and territorial sovereignty, and which has not been recognized de jure by any member of the League of Nations. The Committee… returns the question to the Assembly, opposing its admission ”.
        Note to the documentThere are no documents before 1918, because there was no political entity with the name Azerbaijan. In April 1920, the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic (ADR) left history without established or recognized borders.
        DOCUMENT 2: Declaration of the AzRevkom in connection with the establishment of Soviet power in Armenia from 2.12.1920 // "Kommunist" newspaper, Baku, 2.12.1920.
        Exposure: "The territories of Zangezur and Nakhichevan districts are an inseparable part of Soviet Armenia, and the working peasantry of NK is given full right of self-determination."
        Note A day earlier, Baku announced its renunciation of its claims to NK. The same declaration recognizes the right of NK to complete self-determination.
        DOCUMENT 3: Statement on the declaration of NK as a constituent part of the Armenian SSR from 12.6.1921 // "Khorurdayin Hayastan" newspaper (Yerevan), 12.6.1921.
        NoteThe grounds for the statement are the decisions of the Congresses of Plenipotentiary Representatives of the NK of 1918-1920, which proclaimed NK as an integral part of the Republic of Armenia (RA), and recognition of the right of NK to full self-determination by Baku.
        DOCUMENT 4. Plenum of the Caucasian Bureau of the RCP (b) on the inclusion of the NK in the Armenian SSR and on the transfer of the issue to the final decision in the Central Committee of the RCP (b) // CPA IML. F. 64, op. 2, d.1, l. 118.
        Exposure: “… To make a plebiscite only in NK, that is, only among Armenians. Votes in favor: Ordzhonikidze, Myasnikov, Figantner, Kirov, Nazaretyan. It was decided: to include NK in the ASSR, to hold a plebiscite only in NK ”.
        Note
        The expression "Nagorno-Karabakh to be included in the Armenian SSR" is in fact false, since NK has already been declared an integral part of Soviet Armenia.
        DOCUMENT 5: Decision of the Plenum of the Caucasian Bureau of the RCP (b) on the inclusion of the NK within the Azerbaijan SSR (AzSSR) from 5.7.1921 // CPA IML, f. 17, op. 13, d.384, l. 67.
        Exposure: “A) Based on the need for national peace between Muslims and Armenians, constant economic ties between Upper and Lower Karabakh, its ties with Azerbaijan, leave NK within the AzSSR, giving it broad regional autonomy with the administrative center in Shusha, which is part of the autonomous region ... b) Instruct the Central Committee of the AzSSR to determine the boundaries of the autonomous region and submit for approval to the Caucasus Bureau of the Central Committee of the RCP. c) Instruct the Presidium of the Caucasian Bureau of the Central Committee to negotiate with the Central Committee of Armenia and the Central Committee of Azerbaijan at the extreme NK. d) The scope of the NK's autonomy shall be determined by the Central Committee of Azerbaijan and submitted to the Caucasus Bureau for approval. "
        Notes
        1. Unlike the decision of the previous day, the decision of the Caucasus Bureau of July 5 was neither discussed nor put to a vote, that is, it was not adopted.
        2. In the preamble of the decision, the concepts of Nagorno-Karabakh and Azerbaijan are used as geographically different concepts, indicating that Nagorno-Karabakh is not Azerbaijan.
        3. The words “leave within the AzSSR” were used in the decision despite the fact that NK had already been declared an integral part of the ASSR.
        4. The decision to grant NK “broad regional autonomy” directly indicates that this status is granted to the entire NK, as indicated by the first name of the autonomy - the Autonomous Region of Nagorno-Karabakh (AOC).
        5. Etc. See in detail - "Baku itself recognized: Nagorno-Karabakh is not Azerbaijan" October 31, 2020 - https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3104048.html
        1. vlad.baryatinsky
          vlad.baryatinsky 3 November 2020 13: 10 New
          +8
          Hello Dear!
          Quote: Tatiana
          Nagorno-Karabakh does not belong to Azerbaijan by RIGHT.

          I have to you (?).
          Please tell me where you are based and what right do you refer to in your resume for this region Az. which is confirmed by such org. as
          UN, EU, and many respected countries like the Russian Federation and many others!
          Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
          And Baku uses this as a permit for genocide.

          Tatyana!
          Please provide the facts at the moment that Az. carries out ethnic cleansing, extermination of civilians, etc. ?
          I don't know about you, but I see the opposite picture.
          From the point of view of Mezh.Prava, Az. conducts a database against the Regular Forces of the NKR and Am., which at least occupy the adjacent territories. which are not directly related to the NKR.
          And according to the interpretation of Am themselves. are only a buffer zone of "security".
          Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
          "Nagorno-Karabakh is Azerbaijan!" - this is the cry with which Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev sent his army and terrorists to the war-meat grinder

          Dear Tatiana!
          President of the Sovereign State, in the right to throw any cry to the masses,
          which does not contradict the norms of the generally accepted morality of the Civilized World!
          With regards to your remarks about the "terrorists".
          I don’t know about you, but I didn’t notice the General Condemnation of the World Community and the demarche of the Heads of State as well as the International Sanctions to justify your Thesis!
          Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
          DOCUMENT 1: Decision of the 5th Committee of the Assembly of the League of Nations of 20.11.1920 on the rejection of Azerbaijan's request for admission to the League of Nations due to the presence of territorial disputes (League of Nations. The Records of the First Assembly. Meetings of the Committees II. Geneva, 1920, p. 173-174).

          At one time, a respected, such an odious organization as the League of Nations, condoned intervention against the Young Soviet Republic, silently looked at the annexation of the Sudetenland, the Dismemberment of Czechoslovakia, the Anschluss of Austria, kept silent about the Holocaust!
          And the cherry on the cake, contributed to the expulsion and isolation of the USSR.
          In conclusion I will add.
          Glad to see you!
          It gives me an indescribable pleasure to conduct a dialogue with you!
          Peace to you!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 3 November 2020 14: 12 New
            -4
            Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
            From the point of view of Mezh.Prava, Az. conducts a database against the Regular Forces of the NKR and Am., which at least occupy the adjacent territories. which are not directly related to the NKR.
            And according to the interpretation of Am themselves. are only a buffer zone of "security".
            That is why, taking into account the historically frozen interethnic conflict between Armenians and Azerbaijanis and relying on historical documents from April 1920 in the process of the formation of the USSR, now Russia and offers in the form of a settlement of this historically OLD interethnic conflict:
            1. Azerbaijan to recognize for the NKR the Armenian autonomy extended in the rights within the structure of R. Azerbaijan.
            2. And from the NKR side, liberate 7 regions of Azerbaijan, which were captured by the NKR in the 1994 war as buffer zones of their security.

            I am also against the war between the former Armenian SSR and the AzSSR, and even more so against the intervention of Erdogan and the sponsorship of Turkey - as well as Israel - Aliyev and R. Azerbaijan in this interethnic conflict. Moreover, it is happening at the very borders with Russia.

            Meanwhile, recently the number of civil aviation flights between Ankara-Baku and Tel-Aviv-Buku has increased several times! And this despite the fact that some countries have refused to supply Turkey with connecting units for the production of Turkish weapons! There is information that at the same time, Israel's weapons and pro-Turkish ISIS terrorists from Syrian Idlib are urgently supplied to Baku.

            And since the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic (ADR) left history without established or recognized borders and documents until 1918, there was no political entity with the name Azerbaijan, insofar as this conflict is CORRECT and MUST be considered precisely since 1920. That, under the influence of Erdogan, the Azerbaijani side categorically ignores.
            Meanwhile, the real interests of the Turkish "sultan" Erdogan and Turkey itself are at odds with Azerbaijan itself.
            1. vlad.baryatinsky
              vlad.baryatinsky 3 November 2020 19: 39 New
              +6
              I'm sorry for the late reply. The world needed my help.
              Dear !!!
              Quote: Tatiana
              That is why, taking into account the historically frozen interethnic conflict between Armenians and Azerbaijanis and relying on historical documents from April 1920.

              You have raised a very sensitive link as an argument.
              If you refer to precedents from the not distant past, and cite the agreement concluded 100 years ago as a fundamental argument.
              Then I can refer you to the Turkmenchay Treaty.
              And what do you think, whose argument from the two of us will be weighty?
              Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
              Russia proposes in the form of a settlement of this historically OLD interethnic conflict:
              1. Azerbaijan to recognize for the NKR the Armenian autonomy extended in the rights within the structure of R. Azerbaijan.
              2. And from the NKR side, liberate 7 regions of Azerbaijan, which were captured by the NKR in the 1994 war as buffer zones of their security.

              Kisses to your fingers phalanx!
              Bravo!
              With all the limbs of my mortal body I vote for!
              So do I, you and Aliyev from Az. People for that and * fight *!
              But here are their "counterparts" Pashinyan and Am. The people, to put it mildly, do not "burn" with the desire to accept your, mine and Aliev and K * proposals!
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 3 November 2020 19: 55 New
                -6
                Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
                But here are their "counterparts" Pashinyan and Am. The people, to put it mildly, do not "burn" with the desire to accept your, mine and Aliev and K * proposals!

                Soros from the USA interferes with Pashinyan. Erdogan interferes with Aliyev.
                Erdogan is sponsoring Aliyev in the war with the Armenians in NK not for Aliyev's beautiful eyes, but for taking over Azerbaijan as a Turkish colony in his Turan.
                As a result, they cannot yield to each other. They are not independent political figures, although they are each nationalist of their people.
                Moreover, destabilization in the Caucasus has been included in the strategic plans of the United States already several years ago - and the United States is successfully implementing these plans through the hands of Turkey.
                I feel sorry for ordinary people. Young men perish, in fact, for the interests of others.

                Erdogan: Claiming World Domination | Protecting the rights of Russians in the countries of the former USSR | SMERSH from 2.11.2020
                1. Peter rybak
                  Peter rybak 5 November 2020 09: 52 New
                  0
                  Hello!
                  Dear Tatiana! If we talk about claims to world domination, then the Armenians will give everyone a head start here. What Aliyev and the Azerbaijani people do with their country is their business.
                  I do not believe that you feel sorry for anyone at all. Understand, I'm not on anyone's side. But when some activist with a heap of documents from BC, AD, 20s and something else comes running here and begins to express their thoughts, I want to cry.
                  There are generally accepted world acts-pacts-shmakts of today, do you understand? And according to them, Armenia is an aggressor, do not go to a fortuneteller. According to them, Azerbaijan defends and liberates its lands. And no matter whose hands. There is money, they will buy the Papuans and they will fight on their side. This is interesting only to you, and the whole world understands perfectly well that war is a bread-and-butter place for mercenaries, and that is why mercenaries exist to be hired.
                  Do not feel sorry for the dead. They don't need your pity. Don't sympathize with Azerbaijanis because of their president. They don't need your sympathy, because it is false.
                  You are Tatyana, Russian? Are you a Russian? So I will tell you, as a Russian Russian woman who delves into the Internet with interest and raises the documents of the era of the League of Nations: Putin decided to sell the oil field to Lukashenka. This should be more important to you, you are my fake.
            2. V1er
              V1er 3 November 2020 19: 57 New
              0
              There will be Turkish Bases. And ours are silent, it looks like a surrender of interests, as if Stalingrad was given away.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 3 November 2020 20: 06 New
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                Quote: V1er
                There will be Turkish Bases. And ours are silent, it looks like a surrender of interests, as if Stalingrad was given away.

                Turkey has not left NATO. Therefore, there will also be NATO military bases under the command of the Pentagon. And ISIS terrorists will crawl across Azerbaijan and neighboring countries, including Russia, like cockroaches in the kitchen.
                1. V1er
                  V1er 3 November 2020 20: 15 New
                  0
                  As for the NATO bases, in terms of the soldiers - Americans and Europeans - I doubt it. But Turkish bases and terrorist camps will be 100% there. US advisors and funding, that's 200% will be. Second Chechnya, only in Karabakh and Azerbaijan.
                  1. flicker
                    flicker 4 November 2020 16: 07 New
                    +1
                    But Turkish bases and terrorist camps will be there 100%
                    Who knows, maybe there will be Iranian bases there lol
                    Hello Turkey and Israel laughing
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 3 November 2020 15: 03 New
            -4
            Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
            At one time, a respected, such an odious organization as the League of Nations, condoned intervention against the Young Soviet Republic, silently looked at the annexation of the Sudetenland, the Dismemberment of Czechoslovakia, the Anschluss of Austria, kept silent about the Holocaust!

            But the same thing is happening now. Only the place of the NQF will be occupied by the occupation of Azerbaijan by Turkey! Just business! Why can't you understand something?

            Russia's interest in the situation around Azerbaijan and Armenia. Navalny - the boy played too much or?• 2 oct. Feb 2020
          3. Tatyana
            Tatyana 3 November 2020 15: 33 New
            0
            Quote: vlad.baryatinsky
            Please tell me what your starting point is and what right do you refer to in your resume for this region of Az. which is confirmed by such org. like the UN, the EU, and many respected countries like the Russian Federation and many others!

            DOCUMENT 11: Statement of the "Twelve" on the future status of Russia and other former republics (Brussels, The Hague, 23.12.1991)
            Exposure: “By the decision of the European Council… On 16.12.1991 a meeting of the EU Council at the level of foreign ministers was held in Brussels… A common approach of the“ twelve ”to the issue of official recognition of new states on the territory of the Soviet Union and in Eastern Europe was determined… The following criteria for official recognition were agreed ...
            - respect for the inviolability of all borders, which cannot be changed otherwise than by peaceful means and with common consent. "
            Note The statement announced the EU conditions for the recognition of new states in the post-Soviet space. On December 21.12.1991, 11, at a meeting in Alma-Ata, the leaders of XNUMX republics, including Armenia and Azerbaijan, agreed to it. The EU did not elaborate on the legal basis for the condition presented. Only later did legal scholars agree that the new states were recognized according to the principle of Uti possidetis, according to which the territories and borders that they had before were recognized for the states gaining independence. But this condition turns out to be inapplicable to AR. The AR, which had abandoned the succession of the AzSSR the day before, lost its legal relations with Nakhichevan and Nagorno-Karabakh, forcibly included in the AzSSR. At the time of the adoption of the declaration, Baku had neither political nor administrative control over Nagorno-Karabakh. He did not own Nagorno-Karabakh, as it was supposed by the principle of Uti possidetis.
            Postscript:
            Recognition of Azerbaijan with territories not legally belonging to it was understood in Baku as the right to continue the genocidal policy, which it adhered to in implicit and explicit forms throughout the Soviet years. Nowadays, the conflict settlement is driven into a dead end of the contradiction, false for this case, between the principles of self-determination of peoples and the territorial integrity of states. The right of self-determination of the NK people has been recognized many times (see Docs. 2 and 7), including by Baku itself. The principle of territorial integrity is not applicable to Azerbaijan due to the current Treaty of Kars of 1921 and the absence of grounds for Azerbaijan's sovereignty over NK.
            See details - https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3104048.html

            I completely agree with Zhirinovsky on Turkey's destructive policy in the international arena and in Azerbaijan, too!

            Zhirinovsky about the fate of Erdogan and the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Why does Turkey need Karabakh? • 17 Oct. Feb 2020
        2. V1er
          V1er 3 November 2020 19: 55 New
          0
          Perhaps you were attacked now, after such statements. Hold on, Tatiana. We are with you! Russians! Against Turkey and terrorists on our borders!
      2. johnatan.kowalski
        johnatan.kowalski 5 November 2020 00: 52 New
        +1
        As in that anecdote when the lord hired a killer for 500 pounds a head and a cock of a lover, why do not you shake them together there; I'm trying to save you 500 pounds more quietly)))
  2. Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich 3 November 2020 09: 40 New
    0
    It becomes inadequate
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 3 November 2020 09: 43 New
      13
      Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
      It becomes inadequate

      The cock is biting at the crown ........, and Soros is silent. hi Russians do not go to die, the FSE is gone ...... they remove the plaster .... they can take it off with their heads.
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 3 November 2020 09: 44 New
      +8
      Humanitarian aid from a country that sells weapons to mercenaries that they use to target civilians? I invite Israel to channel this assistance to mercenaries and terrorists as a logical continuation of this activity.
      This is already hysterical! It looks like eating a tie.
      1. forest1
        forest1 3 November 2020 09: 54 New
        +1
        Generally an interesting quote. I've watched so much. Israeli drones hit armored vehicles and trenches mostly. Surely they have peaceful civilians in their trenches and armored vehicles. A strange comrade.
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 3 November 2020 10: 06 New
          16
          Quote: forest1
          I've watched so much. Israeli drones hit armored vehicles and trenches mostly. Surely they have peaceful civilians in their trenches and armored vehicles. A strange comrade.

          For the sake of justice, we all watch the footage broadcasted in this regard by the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense. It would be strange if it showed other footage - not in trenches and armored vehicles ...
          1. forest1
            forest1 3 November 2020 10: 09 New
            +2
            Well, the Armenians also have video cameras. So far, it seems, they only showed the bombing of Stepanakert with some kind of cluster shells. It doesn't seem like drones.
            1. johnatan.kowalski
              johnatan.kowalski 5 November 2020 00: 53 New
              0
              They in Russia put sick dogs in shwarma
          2. Professor
            Professor 3 November 2020 16: 03 New
            0
            Quote: Volodin
            Quote: forest1
            I've watched so much. Israeli drones hit armored vehicles and trenches mostly. Surely they have peaceful civilians in their trenches and armored vehicles. A strange comrade.

            For the sake of justice, we all watch the footage broadcasted in this regard by the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense. It would be strange if it showed other footage - not in trenches and armored vehicles ...

            Why waste a $ 100 missile on civilians when there are still plenty of military targets?


      2. MTN
        MTN 3 November 2020 09: 56 New
        -12 qualifying.
        Quote: NDR-791
        It looks like eating a tie.

        laughing good exactly) he is now cursing his life so much) he will be removed from his post immediately, he will not leave his post, he will answer even more) He is now better off as Hitler himself ...
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 3 November 2020 10: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: MTN
          He is now better off as Hitler himself ...

          and it would be better if they played Russian roulette with your Aliyev. Live. Whose brains remain in the head - that and Karabakh.
          1. MTN
            MTN 3 November 2020 12: 05 New
            -5
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            and it would be better if they played Russian roulette with your Aliyev.

            How smart) Or maybe instead of Aliyev, no one will notice if anything .........
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 3 November 2020 12: 15 New
              0
              Quote: MTN
              How smart)

              no, it was just lucky not to be born either az-cem or Armenian.
              Quote: MTN
              Or maybe instead of Aliyev himself

              with what fright? Let him.
              Quote: MTN
              anyway, no one will notice if anything

              Well, yes, and according to your Aliyev, the world will wear mourning, or what?
    3. Vsepomni
      Vsepomni 3 November 2020 09: 44 New
      -2
      Many Armenian politicians lead their people to the slaughter
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 3 November 2020 09: 49 New
        21
        As well as Azerbaijani politicians.
        They are far from the front, they cannot die.
        1. MTN
          MTN 3 November 2020 09: 57 New
          -8
          Quote: Livonetc
          As well as Azerbaijani politicians.

          we have a gallant cause. we are not fighting for the stolen. we do not violate international resolutions.
          1. Livonetc
            Livonetc 3 November 2020 09: 59 New
            +4
            Right business with you.
            If that's what you mean.
            In terms of the formal affiliation of territories in a certain historical period.
            Armenia has a similar truth.
            So you kill each other's children with a "right" club.
            1. MTN
              MTN 3 November 2020 10: 13 New
              -12 qualifying.
              Quote: Livonetc
              In terms of the formal affiliation of territories in a certain historical period.
              Armenia has a similar truth.

              Dear, the Armenians do not have KUPCHI in Armenia, but you mean Karabakh in the words of some Armenians. Karabakh in our (translation) means Black Garden. What does Karabakh mean in Armenian?

              The founder of Ar-tsa-ha is Hasan Jalal - can you see from his name that he is Armenian? He is Albanian.
              1. Livonetc
                Livonetc 3 November 2020 10: 19 New
                10
                I'm not going to get into the jungle of your historical strife.
                Russia has a lot of problems of its own with its historical roots.
                And at the moment, and at the time of the existence of the USSR, the absolute majority of the population of Karabakh were and are Armenians by nationality.
                At the moment, their prospect is genocide by Azerbaijan.
                To return all desired territories, you need to suppress the entire population of NCR.
                Not brilliant yet.
            2. Greenwood
              Greenwood 3 November 2020 10: 27 New
              +4
              Quote: Livonetc
              In terms of the formal ownership of territories
              What does formal affiliation mean? Belonging to itself is legal, recognized by the UN and all countries of the world.
              1. Livonetc
                Livonetc 3 November 2020 10: 37 New
                +3
                This is a formal affiliation.
                In reality, this territory is still owned by the NKR state entity with an ethnic Armenian population.
                Actual ownership (ownership) at a given time.
                Having the ability and will to own.
                This is from the field of legal theory.
                Since the days of the Roman Empire.
                1. MTN
                  MTN 3 November 2020 12: 07 New
                  -7
                  Quote: Livonetc
                  In reality, this territory is still owned by the NKR state entity with an ethnic Armenian population.

                  Of course, the local population is committing genocide (Khojaly) and then they say that we lived alone here. How clever.

                  Quote: Livonetc
                  Since the days of the Roman Empire.

                  Don't you want to remake the whole world according to the era of the Roman Empire? Or did you see the losers in our face?
                  1. Livonetc
                    Livonetc 3 November 2020 12: 47 New
                    +4
                    The fact is that modern law is rooted precisely in Roman law.
                    No more.
                    And to this day, many norms and provisions are relevant and used in modern law.
                    About loser.
                    Don't take it all personally.
                    Nothing of the kind was announced on my part.
                    Less subjective emotions and more objective moments.
                    The picture of what is happening will be clearer.
                    hi
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 5 November 2020 09: 16 New
                      +1
                      The modern legal system of many countries has its roots in Roman private law, jus privatum, and to a much lesser extent in other forms of Roman law. Not to mention the fact that Roman law considered relations within the state.
                      It has nothing to do with this situation.
                      Modern international law distinguishes between occupation, sovereignty, annexation, secession and separatism.
                      Karabakh began as secession and separatism, but later turned into a form of occupation, not formally recognized by Armenia.
                      The occupation in itself does not give in the modern law the right to annexation and sovereignty over the occupied territory, however, Armenia has never recognized any of this.
                      Therefore, speaking of international law, formally Armenia has nothing to do with what is happening.
                      And the fact that it actually controls these territories in international law imposes on it only responsibility for what is happening there, if it is possible to prove that it was Armenia that really controlled, but does not give any legal rights to sovereignty over this territory.
                      Moreover, Armenia recognizes the sovereignty of Azerbaijan over this territory, does not even recognize secession.
                      The territory does not have a disputed status.
                      hi
                2. Peter rybak
                  Peter rybak 5 November 2020 09: 59 New
                  0
                  Quote: Livonetc
                  This is a formal affiliation.
                  In reality, this territory is still owned by the NKR state entity with an ethnic Armenian population.

                  Hello! If you mean at a given hour or day of historical time, I agree with you and your tricky logic. But yesterday several villages were liberated, the day before yesterday, and some more. The Armenian civilian population in the amount of 80% has already left this region. So what is there under Roman law?
                  And this Roman law applies to the Crimea, Dobanss?
                  Best regards
            3. saigon
              saigon 3 November 2020 11: 43 New
              -2
              It's not a schoolboy from the deceased KaGeBa who has a brave business!
        2. johnatan.kowalski
          johnatan.kowalski 5 November 2020 00: 54 New
          0
          So the Armenians thoughtlessly lead a herd, although they are a herd
    4. MTN
      MTN 3 November 2020 09: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
      It becomes inadequate

      Well, what to do, everyone leaked them. Imagine how it feels to be "chosen", "long-suffering", "first Christians" and at the most crucial moment, the little magpie drain everything) This is shock therapy. And the Azerbaijani army is striking from the other side. He now curses the day when he shouted in the street during the revolution. He knows that he will soon be responsible for the loss of land, for the loss of people, for the loss of equipment ............ the audit of his work will be the toughest. They say the wife lit up with a watch on a pair of green. He is now in hysteria from despair.
    5. MTN
      MTN 3 November 2020 10: 16 New
      -2
      Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
      It becomes inadequate

      You know what I remembered. Before the outbreak of these wars, experts and military analysts very often compared the armies of Azerbaijan and Armenia. They always said the balance of power is not disturbed, the training of Armenians and the spirit are higher. In short, listening to them you think, Tsakhal and Alpha are resting. Such articles were greeted with laughter in Azerbaijan. I was especially struck by how they say Azerbaijan has no advantage with foam in the mouth. Let them now beat against the wall with their analysis.
      1. Garm
        Garm 3 November 2020 10: 32 New
        +2
        Strange, all the comparisons that I remember spoke of the superiority of the Azerbaijani army, which we now see.
    6. IL-18
      IL-18 3 November 2020 10: 31 New
      -1
      Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
      It becomes inadequate

      I offer Israel
      shove it in ... wassat
  3. Professor
    Professor 3 November 2020 09: 41 New
    +2
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?
    Tanks, MLRS?
    1. MTN
      MTN 3 November 2020 09: 44 New
      -8
      Quote: Professor
      Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?

      We need to remind him of this. Lukashenko answered Pashinyan excellently on this topic. He said most of all Russia sells weapons to Azerbaijan, but why didn't he tell Putin? Why did he put his tongue in there)))) And he said this openly and took off)
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 3 November 2020 09: 45 New
      12
      Quote: Professor
      Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?
      Tanks, MLRS?

      Heavy MLRS from Belarus, artillery from the Czech Republic, etc. But he spat at Israel.
      However, this is his right as the prime minister of Armenia.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 09: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Heavy MLRS from Belarus, artillery from the Czech Republic, etc. But he spat at Israel.

        Maintaining the balance of power in the region and pumping up an already accomplished aggressor with weapons is not the same thing. So I spat where necessary.
        But ultimately, you and the Armenians have one boss - so the head of the related department simply highlighted the cross-functional conflict in your "corporation", and you shouldn't worry about it like that.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 3 November 2020 10: 05 New
          -1
          Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Heavy MLRS from Belarus, artillery from the Czech Republic, etc. But he spat at Israel.

          Maintaining the balance of power in the region and pumping up an already accomplished aggressor with weapons is not the same thing. So I spat where necessary.
          But ultimately, you and the Armenians have one boss - so the head of the related department simply highlighted the cross-functional conflict in your "corporation", and you shouldn't worry about it like that.

          That's right. You can sell weapons to Azerbaijan because it's good, but we can't because it's bad. I understood you.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 10: 10 New
            -1
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            I understood you.

            I doubt it. Based on the previous suggestions of your post.
          2. IL-18
            IL-18 3 November 2020 10: 37 New
            +5
            but we can’t be so bad. I understood you.
            A rare adequate commentator from the Palestinian lands.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 13: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: IL-18
              Palestinian lands.

              Try to be accurate.
              With 1948 year no Palestine, according to UN resolution 181 with the support of the USSR, the territory of the mandated Palestine is divided into two states.
              Jewish and Arabic. Well, then learn history.
          3. alexmach
            alexmach 3 November 2020 10: 44 New
            +1
            You can sell weapons to Azerbaijan because it's good, but we can't because it's bad

            It's a shame huh? Russia, apparently, is doing something else in the region, unlike you, "honest merchants", so as not to receive such responses to its cheap PR. Although this "pokes" anyone.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 November 2020 10: 50 New
          +5
          Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

          Maintaining the balance of power in the region and pumping up an already accomplished aggressor with weapons is not the same thing. So I spat where necessary.
          But ultimately, you and the Armenians have one boss - so the head of the related department simply highlighted the cross-functional conflict in your "corporation", and you shouldn't worry about it like that.

          1) Where is the Balance of Power? Armenia sold 300 million, mainly T-72, etc., from tanks and armored vehicles
          Azerbaijan for at least 3 billion - mainly T-90 from tanks
          2) The owner is definitely Soros lol Soros paid for the buses for the elections for the Israeli Arabs, Bibika had to call the people to vote on TV, violating the election law, which Obama criticized very much laughing Here is such a class A office owner))
          3) Who's going through that? Sho Pashinyan, sho leader of Botswana - one fig
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 10: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            1) Where is the Balance of Power?

            There. Do not forget to put dryers, OTRK and our military base on the scales. Weighting honest people is so-so occupation.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 15 New
              +1
              Is our military base participating in the battles in Karabakh? Armenian Dryers - there are already 4 of them. Iskander OTRK - have they sold a lot?
              Azerbaijan has been purchasing weapons from Russia since the 2000s. The largest package of contracts was signed in the early 2010s and was estimated at $ 4 billion. Then Baku received about 100 T-90S tanks, 100 BMP-3, 18 ACS 2S19M1 "Msta-S", 18 ACS 2S31 "Vienna", 18 MLRS 9A52 "Smerch" and 18 heavy flamethrower systems TOS-1A "Solntsepek". And also 10 combat vehicles of the self-propelled anti-tank complex "Chrysanthemum-S", 300 MANPADS "Igla-S" with 1500 missiles ammunition and a large set of engineering and sapper equipment. Also, Azerbaijan received two divisions of the S-300PMU-2 Favorit long-range anti-aircraft missile system, several batteries of the Tor-M2E military anti-aircraft complex, 60 Mi-17 transport helicopters and 24 Mi-35M attack helicopters.

              hi
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 19 New
                +3
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Is our military base participating in the battles in Karabakh? Armenian Dryers - there are already 4 of them. Iskander OTRK - have they sold a lot?

                1 - deterring the aggressor from encroaching on Armenia itself, and if there was someone normal in Pashinyan's place, it would have kept him from attacking Karabakh.
                2 - Obviously 4 is infinitely better than 0.
                3 - How much they bought, so much they sold. And also see the commentary to "2".
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 25 New
                  +1
                  1) It is not a fact that it would have kept from attacking Karabakh. Azerbaijan is a profitable client, it was clear to everyone why they were buying weapons.
                  2); and 3 and 2 are all better than zero. But, in comparison with the Azerbaijani purchases, this is minuscule))
                  3) This does not negate the much larger volumes of arms supplies to Azerbaijan - that is, there was no talk of "sale for parity" laughing
                  1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 28 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    1) It is not a fact that it would have kept from attacking Karabakh.

                    Not the fact that I would. And what would hold it is a fact.

                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    But, compared with Azerbaijani purchases

                    With zero? For this nomenclature of weapons, the Russian Federation refused to supply to Azerbaijan.

                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    This does not negate much larger volumes of arms supplies to Azerbaijan

                    Balances.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 32 New
                      +2
                      Balances in a 1:10 ratio? laughing
                      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 49 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Balances in a 1:10 ratio?

                        When wallets are of different sizes, the answer can only be asymmetric. It is foolish to compare the quantity.

                        And most importantly, so as not to get lost in the discussion of little things:

                        Israel, together with Turkey, support the current aggressor, who is organizing genocide against its neighbors. None of the normal countries does this. Does the thirst for genocide of neighbors have in common? Otherwise I don't know how to explain it.
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 3 November 2020 12: 03 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                        Israel, together with Turkey, support the current aggressor,

                        Aggressor?
                        It's like saying that the United States (providing assistance to the USSR) in the war with Hitler supported the current aggressor. laughing
                        Azerbaijan liberates its territories
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 3 November 2020 12: 10 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

                        When wallets are of different sizes, the answer can only be asymmetric. It is foolish to compare the quantity.

                        This is called a banal arms trade, there is nothing wrong with that laughing
                        Israel, together with Turkey, support the current aggressor, who is organizing genocide against its neighbors. None of the normal countries does this. Does the thirst for genocide of neighbors have in common? Otherwise I don't know how to explain it.

                        lol What is the Genocide in NKR? If possible, evacuate the remnants of the civilian population to Armenia? Pashinyan no longer knows what to blurt out. What neighbors have a thirst for genocide in common? Turkey with Israel? ))
                      4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 12: 43 New
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        called commonplace trade

                        No, this is trade with an eye to peace in the region
                      5. borberd
                        borberd 3 November 2020 13: 11 New
                        +2
                        Selling offensive weapons to the two sides of the conflict is - ???
                        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                        it is trade with an eye to peace in the region

                        It's like putting out a fire by adding petrol to the fire. Realizing perfectly well that the Azerbaijanis will not sit quietly, but will go to liberate their territories.
                      6. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 17: 15 New
                        0
                        Quote: borberd
                        Selling offensive weapons to two parties to the conflict is

                        Sure. The sides could also stock up on weapons on the side. But then Russia would have to equip only one, the poorest, of them to an acceptable level. What would be the reason for the second indignation. And so - no one left offended. And if it were not for the Turks with the Jews, everything would be smooth in the region
                      7. borberd
                        borberd 3 November 2020 20: 18 New
                        -2
                        And what, not a bad gesheft, have been brewed on both Azerbaijan and Armenia, in your own words - "both on the poor and on the rich." Nobody came to such cynicism and avarice. In any case, I do not remember a single country that would sell weapons to the two sides of the conflict, while being an ally of one of the parties.

                        So, for the record - Azerbaijan not only uses Israeli and Turkish weapons, but also Czech, Belarusian and Ukrainian. Although yes, more than 90% of the weapons are Russian.
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 3 November 2020 13: 36 New
                    0
                    Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    called commonplace trade

                    No, this is trade with an eye to peace in the region

                    When a lot is supplied to one side, little to the other? Do you mean peace after the forceful resolution of the contradictions of one of the parties? laughing
                  3. hydrox
                    hydrox 3 November 2020 17: 14 New
                    -1
                    Why the hell would Russia supply weapons to Armenia if the Armenians have been in NATO for several years now? At the same time, the young people living in the republic hate Russia with all their mountain soul - therefore they do not go to the army to defend the NKR.
                    At the same time, our base in Gyumri is the best and most reliable defense of Armenia from Azeria, even though the Armenians will defend themselves with slingshots, and Azeria will not dare to touch her.
                  4. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 3 November 2020 19: 05 New
                    +2
                    Did I write to deliver? I wrote - sell :)
                2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 17: 17 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  a lot is supplied to one side, a little to the other?

                  You ignore the quality side of the mentioned types of weapons. I have already asked you not to weigh the honest people.
                3. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 19: 06 New
                  0
                  High quality? There are many T-90s for Azerbaijan, but Armenia's T-72s lol For example
                4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 November 2020 12: 09 New
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  T-90

                  I agree. It is foolish to ask a Jew not to try to weigh the people down.
                5. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 4 November 2020 12: 17 New
                  0
                  Of course it's stupid: Many New Tanks to Azerbaijan against Few Old Tanks of Armenia = Armenia's quality advantage fellow
  • atalef
    atalef 3 November 2020 11: 49 New
    +4
    Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
    Balances.

    well, if you argue that Azerbaijan achieved the advantage in this war not thanks to throwing out many billions for Russian weapons, but thanks to the purchases of the Israeli - great. I am sure the people of Azerbaijan will remember and appreciate it.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 November 2020 12: 07 New
      0
      Quote: atalef
      I am sure the people of Azerbaijan will remember and appreciate it

      Let the Azerbaijani people better not forget who supported the terrorists in Chechnya, who squeezed hundreds of thousands of Russians out of Azerbaijan, and so on. And then you will ask "why". We will not forget and you will remember.
  • Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 3 November 2020 23: 00 New
    -2
    and do not forget to put our military base on the scales

    On the scales or on the chopping block?
  • Avior
    Avior 5 November 2020 09: 25 New
    +1
    I am afraid that with the aggressor you very freely interpret international law, in particular the current convention on the definition of aggression and the reaffirming UN General Assembly resolution, as well as Article 51 of the UN Charter and other documents.
    According to these documents, it is not Azerbaijan at all that falls under the concept of an aggressor.
  • MTN
    MTN 3 November 2020 09: 58 New
    -12 qualifying.
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Heavy MLRS from Belarus

    Lukashenko did not sell MLRS to Armenians. The heavy ones they have are Peonies and Palaneses. Both were bought by Azerbaijan.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 10: 11 New
      10
      Quote: MTN
      Lukashenko did not sell MLRS to Armenians. The heavy ones they have are Peonies and Palaneses. Both were bought by Azerbaijan.

      If one day you meet Goodwin, ask him for yourself and for all pro-Azerbaijani trolls the same thing that the Scarecrow asked in his time. You will not go wrong - you really have an urgent need for this.
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 3 November 2020 10: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
        If one day you meet Goodwin, ask him for yourself and for all pro-Azerbaijani trolls the same thing that the Scarecrow asked in his time. You will not go wrong - you really have an urgent need for this.

        Great advice!
  • Danila46
    Danila46 3 November 2020 09: 59 New
    +1
    so the Jews are always more convenient to spit. you will never miss. as old as the world .......
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 3 November 2020 10: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Professor
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?
    Tanks, MLRS?

    Heavy MLRS from Belarus, artillery from the Czech Republic, etc. But he spat at Israel.
    However, this is his right as the prime minister of Armenia.

    Kniksen towards Iran
  • andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 10: 48 New
    +1
    Armenians are very religious, as a result, hatred of Jews is very widespread among them. Even if Israel did not sell anything to Azerbaijan, they would support Israel's enemies. As in the 70s and 80s, when the Armenians of Lebanon, as part of Arab groups, attacked the northern borders of Israel.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 3 November 2020 12: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: andreykolesov123
      Armenians are very religious, as a result, hatred of Jews is very widespread among them. Even if Israel did not sell anything to Azerbaijan, they would support Israel's enemies. As in the 70s and 80s, when the Armenians of Lebanon, as part of Arab groups, attacked the northern borders of Israel.

      Among the normal there is no hatred for either Jews or Azerbaijanis - they do not like Turks, yes. I am writing about the Russian Armenians, I don’t know about the Hayestan Armenians, I talked with the adequate (mostly). Lebanese - yes, but here they had a commonality of interests with the Palestinians, they trained at their bases, therefore, unlike other Christians in Lebanon, they participated in the war on the side of the Palestinians. The religious factor is minuscule here. hi
      1. andreykolesov123
        andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 12: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: andreykolesov123
        Armenians are very religious, as a result, hatred of Jews is very widespread among them. Even if Israel did not sell anything to Azerbaijan, they would support Israel's enemies. As in the 70s and 80s, when the Armenians of Lebanon, as part of Arab groups, attacked the northern borders of Israel.

        Among the normal there is no hatred for either Jews or Azerbaijanis - they do not like Turks, yes. I am writing about the Russian Armenians, I don’t know about the Hayestan Armenians, I talked with the adequate (mostly). Lebanese - yes, but here they had a commonality of interests with the Palestinians, they trained at their bases, therefore, unlike other Christians in Lebanon, they participated in the war on the side of the Palestinians. The religious factor is minuscule here. hi


        https://mnenia.zahav.ru/Articles/13827/human_rights_watch_critikuet_israel_no_podderjivaet_pereselenia_armyan

        interesting article on the topic. Apparently, two lobbies clashed in the United States: the Jewish and the Armenian. It will be like in a joke. The prosecutor will receive 10 years.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 3 November 2020 12: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: andreykolesov123
      Armenians are very religious

      Seriously?
    3. borberd
      borberd 3 November 2020 13: 14 New
      +7
      There it is not just a matter of religiosity, there is black envy and an inferiority complex towards Jews.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 3 November 2020 11: 52 New
    +3
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Heavy MLRS from Belarus, artillery from the Czech Republic, etc. But he spat at Israel.
    However, this is his right as the prime minister of Armenia.

    Here, not so long ago, some directly stated that Armenia was punished for the Judenfray and the absence of a synagogue in it. And then they offer humanitarian aid. Looks a little cynical, doesn't it? Even Pashinyan began to figure out who is who. repeat
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 3 November 2020 12: 29 New
      +3
      There is one synagogue and several Orthodox churches in Armenia, this has nothing to do with humanitarian aid. Israel supplied medicines and medical supplies to Azerbaijan, since it happens during the war and caused by the war, had to offer the same to Armenia. Pashinyan decided to put on a show for Iran. This is done for three reasons:
      1) The only "open border" of Armenia (with Georgians and Turks, they are in a quarrel), should not be closed for the supply of military goods to Yerevan (theoretically, it could be due to the numerous Iranian Azerbaijanis)
      2) Iran has entered the peace process with a program that has not yet been published by anyone. Pashinyan is waiting for big nishtyaks for himself in this regard, so he shows an anti-Israeli position.
      3) In Armenia itself, there is a tendency to see Jews as historical competitors (this is also a memory of living together in the Ottoman Empire), where there was really a struggle between two diasporas in crafts and trade. It is stupid to extend this to the modern world, but the myth is tenacious and, in the Armenian society (Armenia), is popular.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 3 November 2020 12: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        There is one synagogue and several Orthodox churches in Armenia, this has nothing to do with humanitarian aid.

        Here one individual with "professorial insignia", not so long ago shouted to the entire site that Armenia was punished for "Judenfray" and the absence of synagogues. The bike is not mine. request

        Quote: Krasnodar
        In Armenia itself, there is a tendency to see Jews as historical competitors (this is also a memory of living together in the Ottoman Empire), where there was really a struggle between the two diasporas in crafts and trade.

        As well as reverse vision. Lev Gumilyov wrote about this very interestingly, at one time. wink
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 November 2020 13: 18 New
          +3
          The opposite? laughing well, Gumilev knows better. ))
          Initially, modern Jews who knew little about history treated the Armenians as a very similar people - ancient, with a tragic history and solid representation among "violinists and chess players".
          Personal contacts in France - business people of both nationalities easily converged on the basis of internationalism, finding the French Armenians on the right side during the German occupation, general efficiency and energy, the abundance of Armenians among the people of art, where many Jews lived.
          USSR - Moscow, Baku and St. Petersburg Armenians very quickly converged with Jews, up to mixed marriages - Spivakov, the wife of an Armenian. Kasparov and Dovlatov are mixed Armenian-Jewish families. General interest in the arts and sciences, a sensitive presence in academia. MiG - Mikoyan and Gurevich.
          RF - in both capitals there were a lot of companions, Jews and Armenians. Joint business.
          But then the Internet began to flourish and went - Ataturk (he is blamed for genocide, although in 1915 he commanded the troops fighting with the British and French in Gallipoli) - Donme (a sect of Jews that converted to Islam). The Jews are to blame for our troubles, incl. in genocide, etc.
          If before the Jews met among the Armenians mainly businessmen, people of art and scientists, now we are faced directly with the "main mass", rather strange, in our opinion.
          Are they competitors to us? Not at all. Do they interfere? Also no. It's just .. these are the people laughing
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 3 November 2020 16: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            well, Gumilev knows better.

            So I somehow trust him more, after all, a scientist with a worldwide reputation, during his lifetime they did not dare to argue with him at all. Hayali only for the eyes and after death. Well, Jews always have their own truth and it is the most truthful, right ?? wink
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 3 November 2020 17: 41 New
              +2
              Gumilev with a worldwide reputation? laughing It's like Bakeria, a world-renowned doctor - he once showed the plot of the first channel to the Israelis, where he performed an operation with a clever look, which was already considered ineffective 5 years ago (at the time of not carrying out) - the injection of stem cells into the heart when performing CABG (such as affected tissues are restored).
              - When is that? - asked the Jews, who have their own truth
              - Three days ago.
              - What kind of clown? This has been recognized as ineffective for several years.
              - What are you, a famous cardiac surgeon, Bakeria ..
              - Who?
              .... hi
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 3 November 2020 18: 53 New
                +2
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Gumilev with a worldwide reputation?

                I always thought so, but a Jew always has his own opinion. laughing
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 19: 22 New
                  +4
                  laughing in English, type in his name in Google - you will see how famous his theories of passionarity and ethnogenesis are in the world or simply the theory of ethnogenesis - you will find one in the top ten results of links to Russian and Kazakh Sites, and in a solid English academic source an article about Gumilyov in English for by a certain Titov hi
                  But - check it yourself)).
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 3 November 2020 19: 25 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    in English, type his name into Google - you will see how famous his theories of passionarity and ethnogenesis are in the world, or simply the theory of ethnogenesis -

                    No, well, I understand that for some, Obama has done more for world peace. laughing
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 3 November 2020 19: 33 New
                    +3
                    And here Obama what We are talking about fame and, accordingly, authority in the world scientific community. And he doesn't even have negative fame laughing
                2. borberd
                  borberd 3 November 2020 20: 48 New
                  +2
                  The Armenians, by the way, took from Gumilev his theory of ethnogenesis. And this was invented there ... Read the "studies of Armenian academics" on the topic of the ethnogenesis of Armenians. These "studies" are nothing more than an effusion of their inferiority complex.
                3. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 21: 01 New
                  +2
                  I live in the south of Russia. All Armenians are different)).
                  There are many adequate people, there are enough really smart and literate people. You've probably read the pearls of graduates of the humanitarian faculties of Armenian universities - yes, you can read this there laughing
                  And historians (I'm not talking about serious guys, of which there are a lot) - this is generally awful fellow
                4. borberd
                  borberd 3 November 2020 21: 16 New
                  +4
                  I have read the pearls of modern Armenian historians. There they declare in all seriousness that many iconic personalities in world history were Armenians, which is what Armenian ethnogenesis broadcasts. Where there are many of them, adequate and intelligent ones may well be found. I have not met anyone like that, I met mostly Armenian nationalists.
                5. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 21: 21 New
                  +2
                  The dispute (in my presence) about the greatness of the nation between Armenians and Greeks. Greek to Armenian (in hearts):
                  - You didn't have a person approaching Alexander the Great
                  I was
                  Both: who ??
                  I am: Alexander the Great
                6. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 3 November 2020 21: 34 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  The dispute (in my presence) about the greatness of the nation between Armenians and Greeks. Greek to Armenian (in hearts):
                  - You didn't have a person approaching Alexander the Great
                  I was
                  Both: who ??
                  I am: Alexander the Great

                  Tried to provoke the Armenian - Greek conflict? belay stop
                  Alexander the Great was Our Russian! yes you can ask Samsonov, he will confirm!
                7. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 21: 44 New
                  +3
                  Ah, well, yes - the Supreme Leader of the Soviet Hyper-ethnicity of Tartary winked
                8. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 3 November 2020 21: 50 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Ah, well, yes - the Supreme Leader of the Soviet Hyper-ethnicity of Tartary winked

                  Yes, and in general Napoleon, Genghis Khan and Tamerlane are Russians too! yes Samsonov - Knows Everything! fellow
                  Yours is only Moses! And there is one more, whose I do not remember ... which Javoharlal - Nyuru, but he already answered for his vile deed am
                9. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 22: 24 New
                  +3
                  Jawaharlal Nyuru Red Army soldier Chonkin fellow
          2. borberd
            borberd 3 November 2020 21: 35 New
            +1
            Did they read Armenians in ethnogenesis? laughing
          3. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 3 November 2020 21: 44 New
            +2
            No, now I will read and give out copy-paste))
          4. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 3 November 2020 22: 02 New
            +1
            An American scientist of Armenian origin Raymond Damadian, one of the first researchers of the principles of MRI, holder of a patent for MRI and the creator of the first commercial MRI scanner, also made a well-known contribution to the creation of magnetic resonance imaging. In 1971, he published his idea titled Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Tumor Detection.

            This is already serious, by the way
  • Letun
    Letun 3 November 2020 09: 55 New
    10
    Quote: Professor
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?
    Tanks, MLRS?

    Has Russia supplied arms to Azerbaijan after the start of the conflict?
    1. Professor
      Professor 3 November 2020 10: 28 New
      +3
      1. Has Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?
      2. Forbidden to supply?
      3. Precision weapons REDUCE the number of civilian casualties. Fact.
      1. Letun
        Letun 3 November 2020 10: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        1. Has Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?
        2. Forbidden to supply?
        3. Precision weapons REDUCE the number of civilian casualties. Fact.

        Well, that is. are we talking about humanitarian supplies of weapons from Israel?
        Yes, communication with the owner from overseas gives its shoots ...
        1. borberd
          borberd 3 November 2020 10: 37 New
          -4
          You did not answer the first point. Where is the proof ?
          1. Letun
            Letun 3 November 2020 10: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: borberd
            You did not answer the first point. Where is the proof ?

            An interesting movie, if you don’t supply weapons, so why did you immediately begin to justify the deliveries in paragraphs 2 and 3? Is that, like, just in case? lol
            1. borberd
              borberd 3 November 2020 10: 54 New
              -1
              Do you think that the professor personally supplied it?
              1. Letun
                Letun 3 November 2020 10: 56 New
                +2
                Quote: borberd
                Do you think that the professor personally supplied it?

                I personally responded to his comment.
                Do you like building a dude?
                1. borberd
                  borberd 3 November 2020 11: 00 New
                  -4
                  Apparently you have no proof of delivery. Accordingly, all other questions do not matter.
          2. aszzz888
            aszzz888 3 November 2020 12: 36 New
            -1

            borberd
            Today, 10: 37
            NEW

            -4
            You did not answer the first point. Where is the proof ?
            And we will go north! (excerpt from the cartoon "Mowgli". Tobacco jackal). bully
        2. Professor
          Professor 3 November 2020 11: 24 New
          +1
          1. Has Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?
          2. Forbidden to supply?
          3. Precision weapons REDUCE the number of civilian casualties. Fact
      2. IL-18
        IL-18 3 November 2020 10: 41 New
        +3
        Israel supplied
        That's it!
        History is as old as the world. Zionists make money, but ordinary Jews are killed for their deeds.
        1. Letun
          Letun 3 November 2020 10: 53 New
          +6
          Quote: IL-18
          Israel supplied
          That's it!
          History is as old as the world. Zionists make money, but ordinary Jews are killed for their deeds.

          No, no, they do not profit, the Professor explained, they supply weapons to reduce the number of victims in the war! These are humanitarian supplies! Well, how could you think that God's chosen ones just stupidly cut money in the war? They are not like that! They are civilized!
          1. borberd
            borberd 3 November 2020 11: 27 New
            -1
            Wow, what cynicism. You sell offensive weapons to Azerbaijan, which is an enemy of your own ally and friend in the military bloc - Armenia. And after this filth, you still accuse us of trying to cash in? - Yes, you are definitely a phenomenon! With allies like you, you don't need enemies. belay
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard 3 November 2020 11: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        1. Has Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?

        And who here not so long ago declared that Armenia was punished for "Judenfray", don't you remember that? wink
        1. Professor
          Professor 3 November 2020 12: 20 New
          +2
          Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 3 November 2020 12: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?

            And who here not so long ago declared that Armenia was punished for "Judenfray", don't you remember that?
            , As ??
            1. Professor
              Professor 3 November 2020 12: 31 New
              +5
              Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 3 November 2020 12: 40 New
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?

                Professor, your equipment is stuck, reset to zero ... repeat laughing
      4. aszzz888
        aszzz888 3 November 2020 12: 41 New
        -2

        Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
        Today, 10: 28
        NEW

        +2
        1. Has Israel supplied? Is there any evidence?

        Yerevan. 29th of October. INTERFAX - Israel should stop supplying arms to Azerbaijan, said the press secretary of the Armenian Foreign Ministry Anna Naghdalyan.
        "We consider it important to stop Israel's sale of weapons to Azerbaijan and to strengthen its military capabilities. Azerbaijan uses these weapons against the peaceful population of Karabakh," Naghdalyan said at a briefing on Thursday.
        According to her, the Armenian Ambassador, who was recalled from Israel to Yerevan for consultations on October 1, is still at home.
        Sergey Melkonyan: "Israeli weapons seriously affect the balance of forces on the battlefield." Interview
        publication time: October 15, 2020 07:25 am | last updated: October 15, 2020 11:43 AM
        Al-Arabiya: Israel sends planes filled with weapons to Azerbaijan
        October 1 2020
        09:09

        More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/10/01/al-arabiya-izrail-otpravlyaet-v-azerbaydzhan-samolyoty-zabitye-oruzhiem
        The expert noted that Israel has long been supplying Azerbaijan with weapons, drones and everything related to weapons, including electronics, and more recently, short-range missiles.

        "The first reason for the supply of weapons is oil. The supply of weapons is, as it were, a form of mutual payment. That is, we give weapons in payment for oil," Kedmi said.


        Read more: https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/politics/20201006/24786939/Izrail-i-Azerbaydzhan-povyazany-ne-tolko-oruzhiem-ekspert-o-problemakh-na-fone-Karabakha.html
        Enough, or else? I'm used to making people look like fools, but you won't get a ride here.
        1. Professor
          Professor 3 November 2020 13: 25 New
          +1
          Where is the evidence? These are just words. Bare accusations.
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 4 November 2020 01: 04 New
            -2

            Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
            Yesterday, 13: 25

            +2
            Where is the evidence? These are just words. Bare accusations.
            Until you poke your nose, like a cat that crap all corners, you will not believe.
            1. Professor
              Professor 4 November 2020 07: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: aszzz888

              Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
              Yesterday, 13: 25

              +2
              Where is the evidence? These are just words. Bare accusations.
              Until you poke your nose, like a cat that crap all corners, you will not believe.

              No, my young friend, This is bullshit, not proof. Al Arabiya? Where is the photo or video of Israel sending planes filled with weapons to Azerbaijan? At least one? And it turns out like an old joke.
              -Who are you?
              -A whistle.
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 4 November 2020 07: 26 New
                -3

                Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                Today, 07: 23
                And it turns out like an old joke.
                -Who are you?
                -Nevistka.
                Do not do it, you are "nevistka"! laughing
                No my young friend,
                Palestinian wolf, you "friend"! tongue
      5. Maz
        Maz 3 November 2020 16: 44 New
        0
        Quote: Professor

        3. Precision weapons REDUCE the number of civilian casualties. Fact.

        REDUCES the number of victims? On the other hand, it provokes the aggressor to unleash war and active hostilities, since he gets a very greater advantage in comparison with the defending opponent and morally pushes the Azerbans in the back to declare and conduct war. And in war, should I explain to you - to the Jews, how bad it is not only from precision weapons and the civilian population ... hunger, cold, disease, arbitrariness of the military authorities, genocide ... especially those invaders who come with weapons and grief to the vanquished. .. Professor, you seem to be smart and pretend to be a genius ... and not to understand and ignore this is a war crime. Your position on this issue is not at all better than the position of the guards of Mauthausen, Auschwitz, Treblinka ... and even more so the Krupp firm and other war criminals. You and your stinking position look disgusting gentlemen of the Jews. Also tell the Professor that you followed the orders and are not to blame - the Fuhrer, Erdogan, Bibi, Aliyev are to blame ... your love for grandmothers, your boss and boss is the United States ... baby talk
        1. Professor
          Professor 3 November 2020 19: 36 New
          +2
          Maz, is your daughter dating an Arab? Honestly?

          1. You previously claimed that Israeli weapons are bullshit. So how does bullshit "provoke the aggressor to unleash a war and active hostilities, since he gets a very greater advantage over the defending opponent and morally pushes him in the back"? Where is the logic? Although what kind of logic can a person have who wants his daughter's death ...

          2. Tell us how the Russian offensive weapons supplied to Azerbaijan (tanks, artillery, MLRS, flamethrowers !!!) helped to save the lives of the civilian population of Karabakh? It is with this weapon that Stepanokert is fired upon, but you and the Prime Minister of Armenia have thrust their tongues into ... and not a single reproach in this regard in the direction of the Russian Federation.

          3. You know best who in the concentration camps did the dirty work because you and them have the same opinion about the Jews.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 3 November 2020 23: 02 New
            0
            Not necessarily with an Arab, maybe with a Yemenite or Moroccan, but the favorite childhood song of his grandchildren, in any case, will not be something from the Musicians of Bremen, but:
            Habibi Yaeyni,
            I'm Eini I'm Leili ... fellow
            1. Professor
              Professor 4 November 2020 07: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Not necessarily with an Arab, maybe with a Yemenite or Moroccan, but the favorite childhood song of his grandchildren, in any case, will not be something from the Musicians of Bremen, but:
              Habibi Yaeyni,
              I'm Eini I'm Leili ... fellow

              Quote: Krasnodar
              Not necessarily with an Arab, maybe with a Yemenite or Moroccan

              Who cares? request

              PS
              The main thing is that she served the Zionists in the army, pays taxes to the Zionists and is not going to go home to the Pope in Ukraine.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 4 November 2020 07: 28 New
                +1
                The Great Russian patriots would like his grandchildren to sing "Olya-la, we rob the king tomorrow," and not Kul but Banat El Hibak ... request
                1. andreykolesov123
                  andreykolesov123 4 November 2020 11: 31 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  The Great Russian patriots would like his grandchildren to sing "Olya-la, we rob the king tomorrow," and not Kul but Banat El Hibak ...

                  Maz is the most cunning, he hates Jews in public, but in real life he is far-right, he walks in a kippah with sidelocks.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 4 November 2020 12: 13 New
                    0
                    No
                    Most likely in zhovto-blakit T-shirts
      6. Petro_tut
        Petro_tut 3 November 2020 23: 09 New
        -1
        Forbidden to supply?
        3. Precision weapons REDUCE the number of civilian casualties. Fact


        During hostilities, yes, but what will happen when the victors enter peaceful neighborhoods?
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 13: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Letun
      Has Russia supplied arms to Azerbaijan after the start of the conflict?

      Not you, not we do not know.
      But that's for sure.
      94% of the weapons to Armenia have been supplied by Russia in 10 years. Moreover, most of the weapons were transferred to the Armenian Armed Forces on a gratuitous basis or on terms of preferential loans.
      But the problem is different, today it is almost a quarter of the 21st century, and the weapons that were sold by weight belong to the middle of the 20th century.
      At the same time, Azerbaijan also bought there. But then I remembered the 21st century.
      And Israel is now to blame not for the fact that there is no water in the tap, but for the fact that they buy modern weapons from it. It stole a fur coat or it is not the essence of the matter. The main thing is that this is to blame and warms many souls.
      1. Petro_tut
        Petro_tut 3 November 2020 23: 13 New
        -1
        The main thing that is to blame

        I wonder, hypothetically, of course, if the Americans start selling precision weapons to Iran as a friend? How will Israel react to this? hi
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 23: 20 New
          -2
          Quote: Petro_tut
          I wonder, hypothetically, of course, if the Americans start selling precision weapons to Iran as a friend? How will Israel react to this?

          In the same way, how Russia will react, if hypothetically, of course, if the Americans start selling precision weapons to Ukraine or Georgia.
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 4 November 2020 01: 07 New
        -3

        Vitaly Gusin (Vitaly Gusin)
        Yesterday, 13: 37

        +2
        Quote: Letun
        Has Russia supplied arms to Azerbaijan after the start of the conflict?

        Not you, not we do not know.
        But that's for sure.
        94% of the weapons to Armenia have been supplied by Russia in 10 years.

        "By your fat, and by your musals." laughing

        Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
        Yesterday, 13: 25

        +2
        Where is the evidence? These are just words. Bare accusations.
        [Quote] [/ quote]
  • Pereira
    Pereira 3 November 2020 09: 57 New
    -2
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?

    He also desired our soldiers, perverted.
  • Maki maki
    Maki maki 3 November 2020 10: 16 New
    12
    Quote: Professor
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?

    If I had given a hint, there would have been questions about the Iskander in Armenia.
  • Dym71
    Dym71 3 November 2020 10: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?
    Tanks, MLRS?

    Is this Pashinyan's answer to Netanyahu? Is the State of Israel no longer responsible for its own actions?
    Sadly ... crying
  • alexmach
    alexmach 3 November 2020 10: 36 New
    +3
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?

    It's a shame, right? And you all are so used to poking them, and here it is like this.
    1. borberd
      borberd 3 November 2020 11: 43 New
      +4
      Israel is in very tense, almost unfriendly relations with Armenia, due to the fault of the Armenians. And with Azerbaijan in friendly and even allied relations. But Russia and Armenia are friends and allies in the bloc, but they sold weapons to the enemy of Armenians. It's not offensive, it's ... I don't even know what to call it.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 3 November 2020 12: 46 New
        0
        through the fault of the Armenians

        Of course, for whom else.
        And with the Palestinians and the Iranians .. it's all their fault.
        1. borberd
          borberd 3 November 2020 16: 12 New
          -1
          Your sarcasm is inappropriate, as historical facts speak of strange Armenian support for the Palestinians, both in Jerusalem itself, where they have a whole block, but also internationally. I'm not even talking about the support of Iran from the Armenian lobby in the US Congress. By the way, the Armenians opened their embassy in TA only half a year ago.
      2. Dym71
        Dym71 3 November 2020 15: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: borberd
        It's not offensive, it's ... I don't even know what to call it.

        Now I'll tell you what to call it. Taking into account the topic of the discussed news, like this:
        An Armenian was suing a Jew, so the judge was given 10 years of strict regime.
  • saigon
    saigon 3 November 2020 11: 48 New
    0
    Professor yes to hell with ima who is selling what and to whom, but why the statesman does not shave (has the mourning already begun)?
    And how will he begin to talk about ours?
    Themselves are purchased.
    Do not be jealous, and he will remember Russia.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 November 2020 12: 43 New
    -1

    Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
    Today, 09: 41
    NEW
    0
    Did he say nothing about the supply of weapons by Russia?
    Tanks, MLRS?
    !. Where are the docks? laughing lol tongue laughing wassat
  • johnatan.kowalski
    johnatan.kowalski 5 November 2020 00: 55 New
    0
    And he also said nothing that they are banging donkeys
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 09: 42 New
    +4
    Islamic terrorists and Israel are now on the same side. So Israel should consider whether this is really a convenient situation for it?

    The State of Israel is not equal to the Jews. The "founding fathers" of this also did not disdain to knock out wedges for Hitler in his time, in the midst of the Holocaust.
    In the end, remember who "gave birth" to terrorism in its modern form - when it is not polit / economists who are attacked, but innocent people.
    1. borberd
      borberd 3 November 2020 10: 51 New
      0
      The USSR did not hesitate to train and conduct maneuvers with the Nazis. The last trainload of grain and coal traveled to Germany from the USSR a few hours before the start of the war. Before the war, members of the British royal family met their relatives with zigzags of Nazis. And in the United States in the pre-war period, Hitler was very popular. That, no matter how it says anything.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 08 New
        +1
        Well, that is, you have nothing to answer for the GI.
        The only option (as it seems to you) is to try to translate the arrows. Funny, funny ...
        Quote: borberd
        the USSR

        Quote: borberd
        Members of the British royal family

        Quote: borberd
        And in the USA

        None of the countries you mentioned tried to be friends with Hitler after the Germans were engaged in the destruction of their peoples. And the germ of the GI was still trying, moreover, in the midst of the extermination of the Jews.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 35 New
          +1
          Where is Stern the germ of the State of Israel? lol What was the height of the extermination of Jews in 1941? When did the Nazis try to destroy the people of the United States? laughing
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Where is Stern the germ of the State of Israel?

            His comrade-in-arms became your prime minister, and his "comrades" GI awarded state decorations. So yes, Stern is one of the "founding fathers" of the GI.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 54 New
              -1
              Shamir, or what? laughing in the late 80s he became prime minister)). And the badge of distinction was given to them for the fight against "British imperialism", which fully corresponded to the spirit of partnership of the communists of his organization with the USSR in 1939 fellow Not because Stern wrote to Ribentrop
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 57 New
                +2
                Quote: Krasnodar
                was

                Quote: Krasnodar
                have given

                Here I am about it. Stern's ideas are in demand by your elite to this day.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 12: 38 New
                  0
                  Cooperation with the FRG in the joint struggle with the Arabs against British imperialism? lol Yes, it is very much in demand and popular in modern Israel, moreover, it is more relevant than ever soldier
                2. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 14: 05 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                  Here I am about it. Stern's ideas are in demand by your elite to this day.

                  Well, what kind of commentary will you give on the actions of your FAVORITE AND RESPECTED by you these figures.
                  On November 28, 1941, al-Husseini and Hitler met in Berlin. As reported in a news report from Berlin, “the Fuehrer greeted the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Husseini told Hitler that Germany and the Arabs were natural allies because they had common enemies - Englishmen, Jews and Communists and asked him to support the creation of a unified Arab state, which would include the territories of today's Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Israel.
        2. borberd
          borberd 3 November 2020 11: 37 New
          +1
          There is no need to compare the capabilities of states in the intelligence field and a small organization that was not influential at that time. The League of Nations, by comparison, until the middle of the war considered death camps to be ordinary labor camps. What can we say about the Zionist organization. When they learned what the Nazis were doing in the camps and in the occupied territories, no one contacted the Nazis.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 3 November 2020 12: 40 New
            -1
            Quote: borberd
            There is no need to compare the capabilities of states in the intelligence field and a small organization that was not influential at that time. The League of Nations, by comparison, until the middle of the war considered death camps to be ordinary labor camps. What can we say about the Zionist organization. When they learned what the Nazis were doing in the camps and in the occupied territories, no one contacted the Nazis.

            In this organization, far from all full-fledged Zionists were - communists, for example. In 1939, they supported Stern's appeal, in 1941 - no longer,
        3. Iris
          Iris 3 November 2020 11: 54 New
          0
          The only option (as it seems to you) is to try to translate the arrows.


          History lessons are good because they provide an opportunity not to repeat deliberate mistakes. The fact of an OFFER to cooperate on the part of an organization not controlled by anyone took place, was analyzed, conclusions were drawn and accepted for execution.
          My God, it's up to us!
          The fact of the Pact of friendship and non-aggression between us and Hitler took place, it cost us a lot of blood. The experience has not been analyzed, no conclusions have been drawn. All soveskoe time we fed and armed the geeks at the national expense.
          And even today, having finally buried the paradigm of the World Revolution, we continue to train career officers from the Palestinian militants. Not even on a commercial basis, which would be understandable, with all the cynicism, but at the expense of the state.
          Shouldn't our "cow" stand on the sidelines, quietly chewing hay, and, most importantly, silently?
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Islamic terrorists and Israel are now on the same side. So Israel should consider whether this is really a convenient situation for it?

      The State of Israel is not equal to the Jews. The "founding fathers" of this also did not disdain to knock out wedges for Hitler in his time, in the midst of the Holocaust.
      In the end, remember who "gave birth" to terrorism in its modern form - when it is not polit / economists who are attacked, but innocent people.

      This is an Arab excuse for the active cooperation of the Palestinians, Syrians and Iraqis with the Nazis during the war - the appeal of a certain Stern in 1939 to Ribentrop through the Italians for a joint struggle with the Arabs against the British colonialists in Palestine. For obvious reasons, it is popular among the orphan and the poor. The Holocaust began in 1941, at the same time Stern, the leader of a radical minority (400 people in the organization, of which the Communists, for example, did not want to cooperate with the Germans), wrote a second letter to the Germans, calling for cooperation in order to expel European Jews to Palestine. In his opinion, only this could save his fellow tribesmen from mass destruction. The Arabs take advantage of this to smooth over their history during WWII. laughing
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: Krasnodar
        This is an Arab excuse

        This is a historical fact. And if it is convenient for the Arabs - and so what? Facts are the following thing - for some, some of them are convenient, for others they are not.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 18 New
          -1
          I do not argue - fact))
        2. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 11: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Quote: Krasnodar
          This is an Arab excuse

          This is a historical fact. And if it is convenient for the Arabs - and so what? Facts are the following thing - for some, some of them are convenient, for others they are not.

          Just take into account the fact that Stern was the leader of a very small, radical group. 99% of the Jews of the Yishuv (the Jewish population of the mandated Palestine) supported completely different political movements, which had nothing to do with Stern's position. At the same time, the mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammad Amin al-Husseini, who is also Hitler's best friend, was the undisputed leader of the Palestinians.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 47 New
            +3
            Quote: andreykolesov123
            You just need to take into account the fact that Stern

            I wrote above. His "small group" gave the country a significant portion of the elite. Up to the prime minister.
            In general, our conversation began precisely with the fact that the GI (its essence is its elite) should not be identified with the Jewish people. Even according to Stern, it is clear that the people did not share his ideas - and the elite more than. You write about it yourself.
            1. andreykolesov123
              andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 11: 57 New
              0
              Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Quote: andreykolesov123
              You just need to take into account the fact that Stern

              I wrote above. His "small group" gave the country a significant portion of the elite. Up to the prime minister.
              .

              you are clearly confusing Irgun and Lehi. This is the same as confusing the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks. Begin was not in Lehi
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 11: 59 New
                +2
                Neither the Mensheviks nor the Bolsheviks adhered to the maniac who burns the children and women of your people by the millions.
                1. andreykolesov123
                  andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 12: 01 New
                  0
                  Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Neither the Mensheviks nor the Bolsheviks adhered to the maniac who burns the children and women of your people by the millions.

                  Where are your proofs that Begin tried to establish contacts with Hitler?
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 3 November 2020 12: 46 New
                  0
                  Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Neither the Mensheviks nor the Bolsheviks adhered to the maniac who burns the children and women of your people by the millions.

                  The mass extermination of the Jewish people began in 1041 on the territory of the USSR. In 1939 Stern and часть his like-minded people, mostly communists, maintained contacts with the Nazis, especially since the USSR did not shy away from them at that time either.
                  90% of Palestinian residents were against such contacts in general, especially since the exchange of assets of German Jews for German equipment ended a few months before the signing of the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact.
                  1. Maz
                    Maz 3 November 2020 16: 49 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    The mass extermination of the Jewish people began in 1041 on the territory of the USSR

                    Well you give it, Krasnodar! I bow before Lenin and Stalin. This is when it began to exist !?
            2. andreykolesov123
              andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 11: 59 New
              0
              Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Quote: andreykolesov123
              You just need to take into account the fact that Stern

              Even according to Stern, it is clear that the people did not share his ideas - and the elite more than. You write about it yourself.

              What side was Stern's elite ???
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 12: 00 New
                +2
                Everything is written above.
                1. andreykolesov123
                  andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 12: 02 New
                  0
                  Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                  Everything is written above.

                  Are you merging? Will there be no proof?
                  1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 12: 05 New
                    +2
                    Quote: andreykolesov123
                    Are you merging?

                    I think it’s a waste of time to repeat the answers several times.
                    1. andreykolesov123
                      andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 12: 08 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Quote: andreykolesov123
                      Are you merging?

                      I think it’s a waste of time to repeat the answers several times.

                      But, don't you consider it a waste of time to direct me to your unsubstantiated posts above? The drain is protected.
                      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 12: 10 New
                        +1
                        If a person is lost in three pines - why not show him the right path?
                      2. andreykolesov123
                        andreykolesov123 3 November 2020 12: 18 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                        If a person is lost in three pines - why not show him the right path?

                        Not a very clear answer.
                        Stern and Begin were both leaders of the right-wing organizations. But Begin (real name Begun) could never cooperate with Hitler. Back in Warsaw in 1939, he proposed to the Polish government to use his Beitar to fight the Germans. All his relatives were killed by the Germans in 1941. Confusing Begin and Stern is the same as confusing Lenin and Kalyaev. And with aplomb to attribute to one, the actions of another.
                        Dear, you are very poorly versed in the history of Israel, you confuse historical figures and organizations. Learn materiel. Read more.
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 14: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
        Facts are the following thing - for some, some of them are convenient, for others they are not.

        Deputy Adolf Eichmann - considered the "father" of the Holocaust - at the Nuremberg Trials: "He said:" The Mufti played a role in the German government's decision to exterminate European Jews, the importance of which cannot be ignored. He repeatedly suggested to various people in power - and before Hitler he came into contact with Ribbentrop and Himmler - to destroy European Jewry. He considered it a convenient solution. Palestinian problem".
  • Iris
    Iris 3 November 2020 11: 59 New
    +2
    After all, remember who gave birth to terrorism in its modern form.


    And who "gave birth" to terrorism in its modern form, curious?
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 12: 02 New
      -1
      Quote: Iris
      curious ?

      I know who. Israeli terrorist organizations began massacring innocent citizens along ethnic lines even before Hitler did.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 3 November 2020 12: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Quote: Iris
        curious ?

        I know who. Israeli terrorist organizations began massacring innocent citizens along ethnic lines even before Hitler did.

        lol
        In response to the Arab pogroms, in general, when Jews, old people, children and women, were slaughtered according to ethnicity.
        And the Jews got there from the Russian Empire, where they too, on the territory of modern Ukraine, long before Hitler were slaughtered according to ethnicity.
        The Adygs who inhabited Palestine fled from the North Caucasus, too, after the Cossacks began to slaughter them along ethnic lines.
        The same Cossacks of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, very long before Hitler, slaughtered peaceful and innocent Jews and Poles along ethnic lines.
        hi
  • MTN
    MTN 3 November 2020 09: 43 New
    -1
    Pashinyan's interview is very similar to the desperate whining of a loser who was leaked in Russia and Iran and the entire West. And before you accuse anyone of terrorism, even if you Dashnaks would be silent. They are known all over the world as terrorists from the times of the Soviet Union to Asala, who blow up airports and peaceful infrastructure. They themselves heroize the fascist, erect a monument, but others are accused of complicity in terrorism. And you Pashinyan, don't you keep terrorists from the Kurdish workers' party? Lebanese? Syrians? Even from Russia there are mercenaries, I am already silent from the West. And so in Israel, his hysteria evokes the usual smile.
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 3 November 2020 09: 44 New
    10
    This is business, Nikol, just business, for someone to whom, but such a pro-Western politician should understand this ...
    1. MTN
      MTN 3 November 2020 09: 59 New
      -7
      Quote: taiga2018
      This is business, Nikol, just business, for someone to whom, but such a pro-Western politician should understand this ...

      This is not business but politics. This is the real price of Armenians. America F35 does not sell NATO opponents. Qatar wanted to buy F35 ... but Israel refused. The United States followed them up. NATO countries never sell weapons against their enemies.
  • forest1
    forest1 3 November 2020 09: 48 New
    -5
    What are you going to do. And here the Israeli mercenaries of Anglo-Saxon terrorist Islamism are to blame. Enough tolerating this!
  • Alien From
    Alien From 3 November 2020 09: 54 New
    -3
    Nikola went to the hovirs ...
  • Gavrohs
    Gavrohs 3 November 2020 09: 54 New
    +4
    Israel supplies arms to the state of Azerbaijan recognized by law! But not like mercenaries, there is a rough play with words from Pashinyan!
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  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 3 November 2020 09: 56 New
    10
    Pashinyan is a success for Azerbaijan.
    Apart from appeals and lamentations, there are no real actions.
    Unless inaction is considered an independent, deliberate action
    Well, how the military will remove Pashinyan from power.
    What are the further prospects for the development of events?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 November 2020 10: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Livonetc
      Well, how the military will remove Pashinyan from power.
      What are the further prospects for the development of events?

      Perhaps the time when something else could have been changed simply by displacing Pashinyan is lost ...
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 3 November 2020 10: 24 New
        +3
        I do not quite agree.
        The radical change did not come.
        Yes, some of the buffer zones have been lost.
        But neither Shusha was taken nor the Lachin corridor blocked.
        Mainly flat terrain, relatively accessible for offensive, were taken.
        Now, if the army and the population of the NKR continue to receive no support from Armenia, then sooner or later the NKR will fall completely.
        Pashinyan is pursuing this policy.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 3 November 2020 10: 37 New
          -1
          Quote: Livonetc
          I do not quite agree.
          The radical change did not come.
          Yes, some of the buffer zones have been lost.
          But neither Shusha was taken nor the Lachin corridor blocked.

          Alas, I do not see any opportunities for Armenians to quickly make up for losses in drugs, equipment and weapons and to effectively counter the high-precision weapons of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, including UAVs ...

          It was necessary to think about this earlier, long before the war, preparation for which, by the way, the intelligence of Armenia epic missed ...

          "Wherever you throw - everything is a wedge"
          1. Lontus
            Lontus 3 November 2020 10: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Alas, I see no opportunity for Armenians to quickly make up for the losses in drugs

            And what about 2 million Armenians in Russia?
          2. Livonetc
            Livonetc 3 November 2020 10: 44 New
            +2
            NKR has extremely limited opportunities and no real replenishment is forecasted.
            However, so far they are holding back the many times superior forces of Azerbaijan.
            Let's see how Azerbaijan will fare with the perception of further losses.
            And the losses will be serious.
            In fact, even the art of NKR was not mowed down by the Azerbaijanis in absolute terms.
            Arrives enough.
          3. genisis
            genisis 3 November 2020 10: 47 New
            +4
            Dear friends. Today I would like to write not about the situation at the front, war correspondents more or less told about it and I have nothing to repeat after them. Nothing significant happened and the situation is not much different from yesterday.

            What I would really like to draw your attention to is the analysis of Ilya Topchey's article. In it, he gives the quantitative composition of the troops and tries to predict future hostilities, relying on a retrospective of the events of the last month. So.

            Before this article, the number of troops, I could imagine purely empirically. Ilya Topchiy probably relied on some sources when making his analysis. In particular, he pointed out that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces were concentrated in the first and second lines, up to 150 thousand people, with 100 thousand in the first line, against 30 thousand Armenians.

            In my opinion, the number of Azerbaijani bayonets is somewhat exaggerated. I admit that they could gather up to 100 thousand people, of which 60 - 70 thousand were in the first echelon. Considering the amount of military equipment, Azerbaijan has actually assembled a powerful shock fist.

            I think that just these figures, which were available to experts, but not available to me, and forced almost all experts to talk about the inevitable defeat of the NKR defense army. Although these figures were not great, there were not enough forces for the complete victory of Azerbaijan and the further occupation of the NKR, especially in the conditions of a partisan war.

            And now I would like to go to the main point. What I have been writing and talking about for a long time, causing only a contemptuous grin on the lips of specialists. Ilya Topchiy says with no hesitation that the Armenians misjudged the direction of the main attack and concentrated their main forces in the north and center, leaving the south to fend for themselves. And we lost the Battle of Jebrail. Some go so far as to say that the Armenians' last chance was at Hadrut, where they were obliged to conduct a counteroffensive and destroy the enemy.

            I will not ask them how it was possible to conduct a counterattack on the enemy, which not only had a serious advantage in forces and means, was not significantly weakened in terms of losses. And he was in an extremely convenient position for him. I believed, believe and will believe that despite many shortcomings, the Armenians quite competently spent a month of fighting in the southern direction. Having exhausted the powerful enemy force.

            And if, as Ilya Topchiy says, in the south the Armenians had one 9 SMRs against three infantry brigades, then this suggests that the Armenians conducted an excellent defensive operation.

            And that same Jabrayil battle is not a grand defeat, but quite the opposite. Having lost a large number of personnel, the Armenians were able to slow down the pace of the offensive and, in fact, with this desperate attack, prevented the collapse of the front. The same experts who told about the monstrous defeat of the Armenians near Jebrail have been waiting for the fall of Lachin for 2 weeks. Shifting the deadlines every time. Now Shushi has joined Lachin.

            So what's in the north? But in the north and in the center, the situation is completely different. There is no safety belt like in the south. And if the Armenians had transferred their small forces to the south, weakening the center and the north, just as experts advise, they would not only lose the security belt in the south. Against fresh forces, on flat terrain, with an enemy with colossal air superiority. But I assure you. Throw the Armenians' forces to the south, now they would have lost both Agdam and those northern heights that dominate the northern road to Armenia.

            I believed and still believe that the Turks were waiting for this. When the panicked Armenians, listening to the words of well-known military experts, weaken the center and the north, completely engaging in battle on the field prepared by the Turkish General Staff. Well, unfortunately for the Turks, this did not happen, and now they should be preparing both for the winter campaign and for the strikes of fresh Armenian divisions.
            1. genisis
              genisis 3 November 2020 10: 49 New
              +3
              So, now it is already obvious to everyone, even to those who predicted the quick defeat of the Armenians by Azerbaijanis, citing figures with their military budget and demonstrating the new military-industrial complex, which were purchased by the government's generous hand for the needs of the Ministry of Defense, that the war is not going according to the plan that was most likely presented by the General Staff to President Aliyev.

              And finally, among the Russian experts, doubts began to slip in the victory of Azerbaijan. Moreover, it seems that only now they decided to look exactly at the number of troops with which the Armenian side can operate, and also drew attention to the theater itself. And even Google maps say that theater is more difficult, for the attacking side it is difficult to imagine. Especially considering the fact that Armenia (and I insist on this) is an invulnerable base of operations for the NKR defense army.

              What is actually happening at the front? The hostilities seem to have finally passed into the stage of confrontation between small groups of infantry, which operate in mountainous and forest areas. This configuration is certainly beneficial to the Armenian side. The military - technical superiority of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces is being leveled, and it is primarily expressed by the use of attack UAVs.

              But it was precisely the competent use of this type of troops that allowed the Azerbaijani army to successfully advance in the southern, flat sector of the front. What will happen now?

              The absence of a clear front line, with mutual infiltration into the rear of the DRG, leads to the fact that both Turkish DRGs can appear in the vicinity of Shushi with attempts to sabotage the Shushi-Lachin road, and to the fact that the Armenians themselves can enter Hadrut and strike , especially if Hadrut, will become the operating base of the Turks when they attack Shushi.

              But as for me, actions against Shushi may well be a deceptive maneuver. Called up to pin down the Armenian forces in this direction, and the Turks can strike the main blow on the central front, with an attempt to take Aghdam. And having already captured Agdam, go to the winter campaign. In the same way, the Armenians may well strike themselves from the Kubatly region and further to Zangelan, with access to the valley of the Araks River. Thus, not only devaluing the successes of the Azerbaijani army in this direction, but also putting the Azerbaijani army on the brink of disaster.

              Much will now depend on those few days or a couple of weeks while the weather in the mountains allows large-scale operations to be carried out.
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 3 November 2020 12: 12 New
                +2
                Quote: genisis
                And finally, among the Russian experts, doubts about Azerbaijan's victory began to slip.

                And if the diasporas had hurried in advance and filled Armenia with a suitable amount of money, weapons and specialists of the required profile, it would have been even more difficult for Azerbaijan. But here, as in a proverb, if, if only ... request
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 3 November 2020 10: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: genisis
              unfortunately for the Turks this did not happen and now they should be preparing for both the winter campaign and to the strikes of fresh Armenian divisions.


              Sorry, but NKR and Armenia do not have the Urals, Far East and Kazakhstan, from where these divisions can be transferred ...
              There is still no even a stopping response to drone strikes, and there are no such own systems.

              Suppose even that there are divisions, what can they oppose to drones?
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                1. MTN
                  MTN 3 November 2020 12: 12 New
                  -2
                  Quote: genisis
                  At the beginning of the conflict, the NKR Armed Forces were increased to 21,5 thousand bayonets

                  David. You are not tired of copying from the site https://schneider-krieg.livejournal.com/44052.html
                  Stop talking nonsense here. Look from the outside, you are trying so hard to write, but you are just copying hell knows where and without facts.
              2. Tank hard
                Tank hard 3 November 2020 12: 22 New
                0
                Quote: Insurgent
                Suppose even that there are divisions, what can they oppose to drones?

                Electronic warfare "Rubella", no?
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 3 November 2020 12: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Electronic warfare "Rubella", no?

                  Hope for this system as a "miracle weapon" that will magically change the course of war?

                  Rumors that the "Krasukha-Belladonna" appeared among the Armenians spread, but the drone strikes did not stop either, but only decreased their intensity, which can be indicated both by a decrease in the number of priority targets and by the saving of ammunition for them by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. In addition, the lag of the drone control points at critical distances can also affect.
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 3 November 2020 12: 49 New
                    0
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Hope for this system as a "miracle weapon" that will magically change the course of war?

                    Hopefully it was necessary earlier, but earlier Pashinyan apparently hoped for the United States, and now that is, it is. request
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 3 November 2020 10: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: Livonetc
        Well, how the military will remove Pashinyan from power.
        What are the further prospects for the development of events?

        Perhaps the time when something else could have been changed simply by displacing Pashinyan is lost ...

        The only option is if the military displaces Nicholas and the North wind blows, so, behind the scenes, then something can be returned, but stopped somewhere.
    2. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 3 November 2020 10: 08 New
      +1
      I agree 100% about luck
  • rocket757
    rocket757 3 November 2020 10: 00 New
    +2
    And sho, the multi-vector, very few people accused of his fiasco? Nothing else will find.
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 3 November 2020 10: 12 New
    +3
    Such are the harsh collisions, the Armenians dreamed of joining NATO and the Eurozone, as a result, thousands of Armenian men die under the strikes of Israeli missiles and Turkish drones.
    This is called - climbed to kiss the boot, got on the snout.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 3 November 2020 10: 31 New
      +1
      Well said! And rightly noted.
  • pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
    pyc.arpeccop tornado 150 3 November 2020 10: 14 New
    +5
    The debt is paid. There is still something left. Such coincidences do not happen, when one people, after two thousand years of wandering, having returned to the promised land, is present at the departure of a neighboring people from their lands.
    Looks like they are cramped there together.
    Under Tsar Tigran II, everything was not so smooth with the Jews with the Armenians, as Soloviev describes in his program .. Still, it was not the resettlement of Jews from Israel to Armenia for a better share then, but a banal hijacking into slavery. Yes, and indeed, there is not a single synagogue in Armenia. Therefore, Tigran-Tehran, it is today the Jews are eager to the fullest.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 3 November 2020 10: 27 New
    +2
    Pashinyan only noticed who Israel supports, well, it happens. And before that, it was not clear in Syria?
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 3 November 2020 10: 39 New
      +1
      Pashinyan understands the instructions he receives well.
      Which he disciplinedly follows.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 07 New
      +2
      Is Israel supporting Hezbollah and the Islamic Jihad with the Damascus Apartment State in Syria? what
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 3 November 2020 11: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Is Israel supporting Hezbollah and the Islamic Jihad with the Damascus Apartment State in Syria?

        What are you, what are you! Israel in the conflict in Syria is exclusively interested in the lives of peaceful Syrians! He is for peace, and these are all around the bad neighbors gathered ..................
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 November 2020 11: 27 New
          -1
          And who are the Syrians to Israel? The population of the country with which he is in a state of war, started by Syria, like? what
    3. karima
      karima 3 November 2020 13: 40 New
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Pashinyan only noticed who Israel supports, well, it happens. And before that, it was not clear in Syria?

      Pashinyan discovered his anti-Semitic essence, and by the way here on the site there are more pro-Armenian people. so and anti-Semitic. In this regard, Israel is doing the right thing to sell weapons to Azerbaijan.
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  • denis obuckov
    denis obuckov 3 November 2020 10: 34 New
    +5
    Israel has been supplying weapons to Azerbaijan for ten years now. Earning billions. Not only drones, but also air defense systems and OTRK + wheeled armored vehicles. So they had to ask the permission of a bearded shepherd whether it was possible to develop their military-industrial complex or not.
  • alexmach
    alexmach 3 November 2020 10: 37 New
    +2
    Well done, what. Even quarrel with the Jews. However, it felt less information about the fighting .. The weather there finally deteriorated or what?
    1. MTN
      MTN 3 November 2020 12: 08 New
      -2
      Quote: alexmach
      Well done, what. Even quarrel with the Jews.

      He is handsome. He is the jackpot for Azerbaijan
  • donavi49
    donavi49 3 November 2020 10: 41 New
    -2
    There, the Armenian (from among the reinforcement transferred after the beginning of the war) Cube was banged. Apparently, either Harop or some other loitering ammunition with a bad picture.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 November 2020 12: 32 New
      +3
      This is most likely a kamikaze drone made in Azerbaijan.
  • Graz
    Graz 3 November 2020 10: 42 New
    +3
    Pashinyan is wrong here. will lose neutrality and acquire a minimum of an ill-wisher for his country out of the blue making such statements
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 3 November 2020 10: 53 New
      -4
      Pashinyan is right. Do not chew snot and do not engage in tolerance. And hard to place accents
  • g1v2
    g1v2 3 November 2020 10: 45 New
    +6
    Yeah, that diplomat too. belay Let's compare. MGIMO graduate Aliyev reached an agreement with Israel, Turkey, Russia, Georgia and even Ukraine before the start of the war. All these countries either supplied weapons to Azerbaijan at the same time, or closed their space for Armenians, or ensured non-interference. And all these countries are not friends to each other, to put it mildly.
    Well, now Pashinyan. He quarreled with his main ally, despite all the kisses he could not ensure that gabunistan at least closed its territory for supplies to Azerbaijan. Now he is fighting with Israel. Instead, he assiduously licks the West, which cannot help him, even if he wanted to. request In general, the Armenians are losing the diplomatic front miserably. And if in terms of the database they still have any opportunities, then there are no prospects here.
    In general, the Maidan always brings talented rulers to the top.
  • Magadan
    Magadan 3 November 2020 10: 52 New
    -4
    Well done Pashinyan! Nicely Israel put in place
    Moral support from Armenians from almost all over the world, and now he drew attention of the whole world to the very prostitute position of Israel.
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 3 November 2020 23: 09 New
      +3
      Russia sells weapons to both Azerbaijan and Armenia. what is the position of Russia?
  • flicker
    flicker 3 November 2020 11: 01 New
    -3
    According to the Armenian Prime Minister, Israel has united with Turkey, terrorists and Syrian mercenaries,
    Well, thoughts are already in the right direction.
    Often, the "dark forces" in their bloody affairs use the tool "Jewry as a network".
    The situation in Ukraine alone is worth something.
  • AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 3 November 2020 11: 23 New
    +5
    And what previously prevented Armenia from buying the same drones from Israel. Now, of course, "it's too late to drink Borjomi".
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 3 November 2020 11: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: Ash Poseidon
      And what previously prevented Armenia from buying the same drones from Israel.

      The embezzled budget of the RA hindered the renewal of weapons, they invested anywhere, only not in their own country, but over Israel, so it would not have sold directly.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 23: 40 New
      -1
      Quote: Ash Poseidon
      And what previously prevented Armenia from buying the same drones from Israel.

      They are offended at Israel because they did not officially and loudly recognize the Armenian genocide by the Turks. And they carry water to the offended.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 3 November 2020 12: 11 New
    -5
    When Israel directly supported by the attacks of the Syrian terrorists, this clown was silent and now he was touched by all this immediately opened his mouth.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 23: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: Incvizitor
      attacks by Syrian terrorists supported

      Times are changing, those who were previously supported by Israel are now supported by Russia.
  • iouris
    iouris 3 November 2020 12: 19 New
    +1
    Pashinyan is an Armenian Gorby. The process has started.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 3 November 2020 12: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Pashinyan is an Armenian Gorby. The process has started.

      Similar.
      Anecdote from the times of perestroika.
      What is new thinking?
      This is when in the stomach perestroika, and in the ass acceleration.
      The accelerated process of dropping the inconvenient and overwhelming cargo represented by the NKR and the transfer of Armenia itself to the possession of the Anglo-Saxons began.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 November 2020 12: 27 New
    -4
    I think Israel should consider the following: mercenaries, Islamic terrorists and Israel are now on the same side.
    Why only "now"? THEY WERE ALWAYS TOGETHER.
  • karima
    karima 3 November 2020 13: 57 New
    +1
    In the meantime, the court and the case, they say that the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, said in today's address that Yerevan is obliged to return all the occupied territories to Azerbaijan. And what about Pashinyan? Silent ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 November 2020 14: 06 New
    +1
    Pashinyan has nowhere to go

    He has already stated about Turkish and Jewish weapons helping "terrorists" to kill Armenians.

    Well, before that, thanks to the brilliant policy of Soros, he fought with everyone with whom he could and could not

    So to be a loud cock and crow to the whole world is the only thing that remains for him. laughing wassat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 November 2020 14: 10 New
    +1
    In my life, I notice that among Armenians and Georgians, self-confidence often borders on madness. Either the Armenians will come to their senses, or they will be crushed into powder in Karabakh and gradually turned into a purely emigrant nation, like the Jews until 1948. Now is not the time for prayers and incantations, how immoral it is to trade with Azerbaijan. Now we need to call Moscow and Paris, and keep Shusha and the corridor to Karabakh under any conditions (military, political). If this is surrendered, first the whole of Karabakh will fall, and then Armenia will follow his example, turning into a phantom state. laughing I wonder where he will run then lop-eared laughing
  • avib
    avib 3 November 2020 14: 12 New
    +2
    Everything that is done / said at the level of heads of state always has some kind of plan under it. The heads of state don't just talk.
    What did this Pashinyan want to achieve with his demarche? For Israel, out of shame and embarrassment, to transfer the weapons paid for by Azerbaijan to Karabakh?
    Relations have never been warm between Jews and Armenians or between Armenia and Israel. Apparently they won't.
    In short, it is not clear. But the informational hype has been created. Question: what good will happen to Armenia next? Will Iran fit in and fight with Azerbaijan?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 November 2020 14: 24 New
    0
    Armenia is just a kind project of Russia, but the former Russia, tsarist. Then the rulers considered themselves the defenders of the Christian world. Today there is nothing left of this, neither in the authorities, nor in the people. Trade interests, energy and financial flows are much more important.  laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 November 2020 15: 07 New
    +2
    It was Pashinyan who replaced the three leaders of the Armenian intelligence service with American puppets. It was Pashinyan who over the past year massively fired officers who graduated from Russian military academies. It was Pashinyan and his team who closed all contacts between the Armenian and Russian intelligence services. laughing Armenian friends! Please sort it out with your traitors. The Russians have saved you, and more than once. But in order for the Russians to want to save you, at least stop hating them.
  • Sergey Matveev
    Sergey Matveev 3 November 2020 15: 21 New
    +9
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan accused Israel of supporting Azerbaijan in the armed conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Something Pashinyan was carried to the wrong steppe ...
  • megadeth
    megadeth 3 November 2020 16: 27 New
    +1
    Interestingly, many Armenians from Russia left for the war ... ?????????
    1. Lvalentin
      Lvalentin 3 November 2020 17: 40 New
      -2
      The question is not correct. How many Armenians came to Russia because of the war? A lot, very much, with a draft age.
  • Lvalentin
    Lvalentin 3 November 2020 17: 16 New
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    Strange, but the Armenians appeal to the historical right to the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. However, the first inhabitants of this region were Jews, descendants of the legendary Noah. And the old testament to you in historical memory. So it's still easier to appeal to modern realities, state law and international law. So, the territory of Azerbaijan is determined according to the borders of the former Azerbaijan SSR, which included the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. The state formation of the Republic of Azerbaijan was created on the territory, whose legislation was brought in accordance with international law. According to the constitution, only Azerbaijani citizens have the right to permanently reside in the territory of Azerbaijan. The location of persons with a different citizenship is regulated by national migration legislation and international agreements. I am more than sure that people who are on the territory of the NKR have neither citizenship nor other legal rights to be on the territory of Azerbaijan and, accordingly, are subject to deportation. Moreover, persons of Armenian nationality created illegal armed groups that forcibly ousted the citizens of Azerbaijan from the territories under the jurisdiction of the Republic of Azerbaijan, as well as hindered the implementation of state functions in this territory. And this is already qualified as terrorism. In essence, the NKR is a terrorist organization. And the state, proving support for the NKR, is an accomplice of terrorism with the introduction of tough international sanctions. That is why Aliyev is very surprised by the absence of sanctions against Armenia. But the existence of double standards is not uncommon in the world. Humanly, I feel sorry for the simple Armenian people, who are fighting and dying for the interests of those in power who hold them under the ideas of pseudo-patriotism and obsolete historical fabrications. This is not your war.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 3 November 2020 19: 24 New
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    Signs of hysteria.
  • Cottager452
    Cottager452 3 November 2020 20: 25 New
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    I have always sympathized with the Jews, now no.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 November 2020 23: 33 New
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      Quote: Summer Resident452
      I have always sympathized with the Jews, now no.

      For, always, thanks.
      And what can a Jew do now, without your sympathy. In anticipation of this, the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan signed agreements with Israel and in the near future, after the elections in America, there will still be about five Muslim countries. Perhaps this will compensate for the change in your mind.
  • miru mir
    miru mir 3 November 2020 22: 41 New
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    the roof of the macaw has moved down completely
  • Radikal
    Radikal 4 November 2020 00: 16 New
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    Quote: miru mir
    how is russia?

    Yes she is in different ways .... What interests you? winked lol
  • Egor53
    Egor53 4 November 2020 15: 29 New
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    And in Karabakh and 7 occupied regions of Azerbaijan, to whom does Armenia send humanitarian and military aid? There, pure Armenian citizens are mercenaries and terrorists.
  • flicker
    flicker 4 November 2020 16: 28 New
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    Finally, Armenians start thinking in the right direction. And then all the Turks, but the Turks.
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    The Turks are just a tool in the hands of the players - they will be used and thrown away.
    If Azerbaijan falls under Turkey, it will also become an instrument in the big game, and in this game the Turks are assigned the role of "kamikaze", which means that the Azerbaijanis will face the same fate.
    As a result of this game, both Azerbaijanis and Armenians may lose not only Karabakh, but also those territories that are still called Azerbaijan and Armenia. bully
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    And yes, there will be no Turkey either - for she has already been sentenced.
  • johnatan.kowalski
    johnatan.kowalski 5 November 2020 00: 48 New
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    So it’s impossible to stick with the faithful pro-Americans, wash your ass, especially as the popular rumor says, Armenians like to give in the ass))))