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"They chased the breeze, got a tornado" - Konstantin Semin on the fight against coronavirus and the economic crisis

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Experts in various countries continue to discuss the topic of how in different countries of the world they are fighting the pandemic and the outbreak of the economic crisis. Many agree that the measures taken look strange: they either put people in quarantine (self-isolation), then the restrictions are removed against the background of an increase in the incidence, stating that the mask regime will correct everything.


When people are in self-isolation, enterprises stand up - the economy starts to slip. Economists come on the scene, claiming that telecommuting will fix everything, without specifying exactly how today it is possible to remotely harvest or build cars.

The famous journalist Konstantin Semin compares the situation with the plot of the Disney cartoon in which Mickey Mouse tried to resist a hurricane. At first he cheerfully drove a small breeze around the yard, and then this breeze turned into a tornado.

So in terms of the fight against coronavirus: they drove the breeze, got a tornado.

The material of "Agitprop" cites the testimonies of the doctors themselves, who tell about the realities of what is happening: in many clinics there is simply not enough bed capacity to accommodate patients (not only, by the way, covid ones), the delay in receiving patients from ambulances reaches five to six hours, and if the doctor himself leaves for sick leave, then the situation may even turn into deplorable, since there is simply no one to receive people and there is no one to provide them with the necessary assistance.

The facts about the absence of elementary oxygen in the intensive care units of cities are presented. As Semin says, "the market has settled."

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  1. aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx 3 November 2020 09: 18 New
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    Natural selection is taking place in our country, your happiness has survived. I am sick with covid, my wife got sick, my mother-in-law and my father-in-law, two brothers-in-law. Medicines in the pharmacy disappeared and rose sharply. My wife had 10 percent of lung damage, then my brother did not want to go to the hospital, the doctor pushed the ambulance. Basic treatment was oxygen, her parents too in the hospital.
    As a former military man, I said and say that for a pension, 21000 rubles. I will not defend my homeland, at first I will clean it, but after an illness there is no state for me.
    1. Machito
      Machito 3 November 2020 09: 28 New
      +8
      Something went wrong with medical reform.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 3 November 2020 09: 32 New
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        Quote: Bearded
        Something went wrong with medical reform.

        And not only with her ..
        1. Igor Semenov
          Igor Semenov 3 November 2020 16: 47 New
          +2
          And not "something"
        2. Lexus
          Lexus 3 November 2020 18: 17 New
          +4
          When, on a national scale, "WITHOUT-responsible" persons ("from boKha") are engaged in imitation of violent activity, one cannot count on a positive result.
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 15: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: Bearded
        Something went wrong with medical reform.

        Judging by the fact that the "reformers" are still at large, some believe that the medical reform has gone exactly the way he needed it. No one cares that this may be at odds with the needs of the people.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 3 November 2020 15: 26 New
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          Well, how is Putin - and will jail himself? Wasn't he openly a few years ago squealing that we had an excess bed capacity and something had to be done with it, as well as with unnecessary doctors? Well, they did it - and here it is on you, covidlo .. And it suddenly turned out that the Soviet government didn’t fucking have to do this kind of medicine .. But it took care of the people, unlike the nonesh power hucksters, who measured everything just for loot ..
          1. ycuce234-san
            ycuce234-san 3 November 2020 23: 23 New
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            quote] we have an excess bed capacity and we need to do something with it, as well as with extra doctors [/ quote]

            It was possible to make money on this surplus by organizing "medical tourism" for foreigners - far from all citizens of foreign countries financially can go to the most-most developed countries in terms of medicine. And there, too, the development of medicine is specific, as it turned out, mainly medical plastic and not an infectious disease, which can also be earned by taking medical aircraft with patients with especially dangerous infections under interstate agreements. Foreign students, counting money, go to medical universities to study.
            Similarly, it is possible to develop sanatorium medical services and pharmaceuticals: it will not matter to a foreigner if the profile sanatorium is located in the Siberian taiga or a magnificent view of the ocean ice hummocks opens from its windows and terraces, if his health problems are solved there reliably and inexpensively.
            Most likely, the excess beds will be returned after the epidemic - the main thing is that they can figure out how to organize income on it.
            1. Sandro1977
              Sandro1977 5 November 2020 06: 58 New
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              To make money on some industry in Russia, you need to create a deficit ... This is what was done in medicine in Russia, with the help of the destruction of the Soviet supposedly redundant heritage ...
              1. ycuce234-san
                ycuce234-san 5 November 2020 17: 25 New
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                We are talking about foreign economic activity - by selling beds to foreigners we keep developed medicine, we keep it self-sufficient from the inflow of foreign currency - we do not cut it. The shortage of medicine, any, even not high-class, in the world is enormous.
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. the Saint
        the Saint 3 November 2020 15: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        Something went wrong with medical reform.

        There are much more urgent reforms. A large-scale reform of the army to reduce costs involves the abolition of the allowance for the indexation of pensions, an increase in the length of service, an increase in the period for obtaining a military mortgage. Earlier, the Ministry of Finance proposed a similar reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 15: 24 New
          +5
          Quote: el Santo
          cancellation of the allowance for the indexation of pensions

          Divide and Conquer. When the general pension "reform" was underway, some security officials expressed themselves in the spirit that this did not concern them. In turn, little by little - happiness will come to the one who thought that his hut was on the edge
          1. the Saint
            the Saint 3 November 2020 15: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
            Divide and Conquer. When the general pension "reform" was underway, some security officials expressed themselves in the spirit that this did not concern them. In turn, little by little - happiness will come to the one who thought that his hut was on the edge

            Classic. “When the Nazis grabbed the communists, I was silent: I was not a communist.
            When they imprisoned the Social Democrats, I was silent: I was not a Social Democrat.
            When they grabbed union members, I was silent: I was not a union member.
            When they came for me, there was no one to intercede for me. "

            On the other hand, during protests against the pension reform, the police happily beat the protesters.
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 3 November 2020 20: 14 New
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            Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
            When the general pension "reform" was underway, some security officials expressed themselves in the spirit that this did not concern them. In turn, little by little - happiness will come to the one who thought that his hut was on the edge

            They hope that the lustration will not affect them, but in vain.
      5. paul3390
        paul3390 3 November 2020 15: 19 New
        +9
        We have something wrong with the whole country for 30 years already .. Of these, 20 are under the control of Solntselikiy .. The Soviet Union has built a powerful industry in 20 years, won the greatest war and tried on space, but everything is only worse and worse .. If it were not for the unfinished Soviet legacy in the same medicine - now they would have died out altogether .. Maybe it's time for our big ones and answer to the people for their deeds? And for people - to think about where we are going and what kind of future are the bourgeois preparing for our country?
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 3 November 2020 18: 29 New
          +4
          ... what kind of future are the bourgeois preparing for our country?

          Paul hi , the answer is obvious

        2. nobody75
          nobody75 4 November 2020 11: 42 New
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          Entoy covidla has a lower mortality rate than flu (not to be confused with ARVI, although formally it is suitable). How would the bed fund, doctors and "Soviet medicine" help the patients, in the absence of drugs with proven effectiveness against covidla? With an early scoop, no one heard about PCR, as well as about tomography ...
          All boron cheese is associated with elementary panic. Our general - professors do not want to admit that no one has seriously dealt with coronaviruses. So they cast a shadow on the fence on a clear day. This means that no one counts the deaths from complications during the annual flu epidemic. And there is enough bed capacity. And with this kovidla - horror horror horror.
          Hunger is a disease with 100% mortality.
          Sincerely
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 3 November 2020 09: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: aslan642
      clean up first

      What exactly do you mean, interested.
    3. StarTroopers
      StarTroopers 3 November 2020 16: 48 New
      -1
      Medicines in the pharmacy disappeared and rose sharply
      I will not defend my homeland, I will clean it up first, but after an illness there is no state for me
      where does private business and the state have to do with it? Everyone shouted and did not believe in covid, walk without masks, violate the regime, and then declare
      I will not defend my homeland, at first I will clean it, but after an illness there is no state for me.

      As they say for what they fought for and ran into. Wake up you live in a capitalist state, market economy. For this they stood in 91 and 93 years. For this they sang songs in the 80s "Changes". Receive and sign, here's a change. Nobody owes you anything.
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 3 November 2020 20: 27 New
      10
      Quote: aslan642
      As a former military man, I said and say that for a pension, 21000 rubles. I will not defend my homeland, at first I will clean it, but after an illness there is no state for me.

      Unfortunately, many citizens in uniform came up with the idea that these very epaulets are some kind of indulgence from social adversity, human retribution and the same covid, forgetting that they are made of ordinary flesh and blood, are also mortal and this death looks equally unattractive for everyone.
      P.S. A speedy recovery to you!
    5. smart ass
      smart ass 5 November 2020 00: 20 New
      -1
      The guarantor told you that 15 thousand salary is the middle class))) you get 21 and this is already the highest class)))
  2. sergo1914
    sergo1914 3 November 2020 09: 21 New
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    He lay with a crown from 20.10 to 30.10. 72% lung damage. The most difficult thing is to be hospitalized. He's got hemorrhoids. I waited for an ambulance for hospitalization for 7 hours. First, they took me to Podolsk for x-ray. The diagnosis is pneumonia. Before that, the temperature for 5 days was 39,6, shortness of breath developed. At the hospital, they immediately stuck two injections and sent me to the ward. Boxing for three bunks with a bathroom. The next day under its own power to the neighboring building for CT. I was already not breathing well. I thought I would suffocate in CT - neither inhale, exhale, nor hold my breath. After 72% were determined, the intensive began - twice a day, two injections in the ass, one in the stomach. Three pills a day. During the day, two droppers (one, like for the kidneys - to support). Once instead of an injection in the stomach, he drank pradaxa. In the evening, the injections appeared again. And in the second week I ran out of icecaine (injections, infection, sickness). With difficulty, but found in the pharmacy. 30.10 was discharged. The lungs are clean. 6.11 threaten to kick out at work. Breathing is a thrill. Oxygen was not given even once (yes, I would have refused - there are a lot of deaths on ventilators). Continuous monitoring of saturation (less than 96 did not fall). This is the kind of medicine that I have personally encountered. The doctors are great. They treated with what was needed and from what was needed.
    PS Podolsk
    PSS Yesterday I got into therapy with the sick - sent to the head of the department. They were taken to the offices like an elephant. It's like, HE.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 15: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: sergo1914
      This is the kind of medicine that I have personally encountered

      There is medicine, but a little and not everywhere. You are in a prosperous Moscow region and not at the very peak of the epidemic - you can say exemplary conditions. Most will not be so lucky. The number of patients is growing, and in regions with medicine it is not at all the same as in the Moscow region.

      Quote: sergo1914
      The most difficult thing is to be hospitalized.

      It is difficult to be hospitalized - this is when you are forced to be taken to the building of the Ministry of Health in an unconscious ambulance because there are no places in hospitals.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 3 November 2020 15: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Quote: sergo1914
        This is the kind of medicine that I have personally encountered

        There is medicine, but a little and not everywhere. You are in a prosperous Moscow region and not at the very peak of the epidemic - you can say exemplary conditions. Most will not be so lucky. The number of patients is growing, and in regions with medicine it is not at all the same as in the Moscow region.

        Quote: sergo1914
        The most difficult thing is to be hospitalized.

        It is difficult to be hospitalized - this is when you are forced to be taken to the building of the Ministry of Health in an unconscious ambulance because there are no places in hospitals.


        I do not argue. I described the situation I encountered. I do not defend or refute other points of view. Everywhere in different ways. My friend (they were ill at the same time) in the Krasnoyarsk Territory spent the first three days on a bed in the hospital corridor. But there were medicines, the doctors were working. We were discharged almost simultaneously.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 17: 25 New
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          Quote: sergo1914
          But there were medicines, doctors worked

          And I have a friend (in the spring) with a suspicion of stomach cancer for 3 weeks, she republished tests for covid and stood in queues at clinics before she was sent anywhere. There are no doctors - everything is on covid, what do you want?
          If it was stomach cancer (noticed by a person in the last stages and progresses very quickly), these 3 weeks would have killed her with a probability of under 100%. It turned out to be some other. It turned out that a lot can be solved for money, despite the covid employment of doctors. She also had money. As a result, she survived the operation and is now alive thanks not to our medicine, but to a fortunate combination of the above circumstances. She is only 30 years old.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 17: 46 New
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            Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
            I have a friend (in the spring)

            And a friend's grandmother died in a similar situation. I got to the hospital with kidney problems and waited about 10 days for the result of the covid test. All this time, the doctors did not deal with her, she lay "on the filter", waiting for the test results (complete nonsense - as if in the general ward of the "filtered" one cannot get infected after passing this finished test). As a result, when the negative test came, nothing could be done with her kidneys. The doctors threw up their hands and the man died. She also lived in MO.
      2. StarTroopers
        StarTroopers 3 November 2020 16: 52 New
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        Don't tell me ah? What is the prosperous Moscow region? In the city of Lobnya, with a population of 90 thousand, there is no ambulance, they go from Dolgoprudny or Khimki. I also almost moved the horses away from the covid, I could not breathe.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 17: 26 New
          -1
          Quote: StarTroopers
          What is the prosperous Moscow region?

          Everything is relative
          1. Matroskin
            Matroskin 3 November 2020 17: 51 New
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            Korolev M.O. A friend died in the spring from covid. They were not hospitalized for 5 days, then they were taken to a neighboring city to the east (Fryazino), from there they were sent to the west (Zvenigorod), and died in Odintsovo. All this time they were looking for him, the phones of the hospitals did not answer, in the ambulance they gave him the mobile of the head doctor of Zvenigorodskaya, and they found him. Social and health care really differs greatly in the Moscow region (mother-in-law and father-in-law are Muscovites), it is just closer for Moscow region to get to Moscow clinics.
    2. Igor Semenov
      Igor Semenov 3 November 2020 16: 51 New
      +2
      Saturation 96 and above is just happiness. There is no question of mechanical ventilation, even a non-invasive one. You actually turned out to be a tough guy, congratulations
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 3 November 2020 09: 23 New
    +2
    More people in masks began to walk ... have been ill, are ill, dofiga, even in our villages !!! It is not possible to stay at home endlessly .... oh, yes, schools in vain were opened to visit children, from there the infection went to families and this is now obvious!
  4. prior
    prior 3 November 2020 09: 36 New
    +3
    "Economists take the stage"

    With their advice on the need for reform in the ears of the Politburo and Gorbachev, it was the economists who destroyed the USSR.
    I was always surprised why they were given prizes, academic titles, high salaries, government awards, if in fact the economy is in a bum, and Russia is an economically backward power, which was earlier, which is now.
    The most subtle form of quackery is economic forecasting.
  5. zontov79
    zontov79 3 November 2020 09: 42 New
    +8
    Do not pay attention to the dollar rate! The main thing is stability! - V.V. Putin.
  6. ximkim
    ximkim 3 November 2020 09: 42 New
    0
    Judging by the videos from the Internet, there are now two troubles: this is the Ministry of Health and the sick ... Take masks, as for me, there is no point in them. When I put on a mask (plus it is also a collection of everything bad from the inside), it is hard for me to breathe and unpleasant formations near the oral cavity, plus the inhalation of everything that remains there (and even in a larger volume), because a humid environment only allows bacteria and fungi to multiply more. I use public transport, and if I see a person with an unhealthy look and cough, then I am from him I distance myself or get out of the bus altogether. If I suddenly do not arches, then I do not expect that it will pass by itself, but I take action. I try to take light products, less fat, so as not to burden the body. Well, I take preventive products and drugs. While it carries it., And the desire to eat is not sick, and I do everything in order not to get sick ..
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 3 November 2020 09: 55 New
      0
      Quote: ximkim
      Judging by the videos from the Internet, there are now two troubles: the Ministry of Health and the sick ..

      I would add, and the third misfortune, the performances of our guys in European football tournaments.
      1. ximkim
        ximkim 3 November 2020 10: 05 New
        +1
        Even though it's an article provirus, but oh well)) The trouble with our football is that you can sit on the bench and still get 1m rubles. And everything is done for this ((There is still one pitfall - the players do not want to make a beautiful match, and most importantly, to run around the field ... no talent or not sad
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 3 November 2020 10: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: ximkim
          Although a provirus article, but oh well

          Yes, I'm tired of him, well, I can hear him from all the irons.
          And, all because wealth gives rise to stinginess and arrogance, as one of the ancient Greeks said.
          So, they don't want to run across the field.
          1. ximkim
            ximkim 3 November 2020 10: 14 New
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            And, all because wealth gives rise to stinginess and arrogance, so one of the ancient Greeks

            Therefore, the attitude towards sports is changing and the sport itself is changing.
    2. StarTroopers
      StarTroopers 3 November 2020 16: 55 New
      -2
      Take the masks, as for me, they are no use
      Another "yaneweryuvkovid bezmasochnik" apparently you are the one whom the covid did not touch? And if it is difficult for you to breathe in a mask, then I warn you, without lungs you will not be able to breathe at all.
  7. certero
    certero 3 November 2020 12: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: ximkim
    sick .. here take the masks, as for me, they are no use

    It is precisely because of people like you that it is difficult to defeat this infection. You consider yourself smarter than everyone else.
    In fact, the use of masks by everyone, without exception, together with the identification of sick people, is the only way not to stop life in the country.
    by the way, for 2 weeks in a row, no flu has been recorded in the world. Precisely because the use of protective equipment has become widespread
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 3 November 2020 13: 08 New
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      Quote: certero
      for 2 weeks in a row, no flu has been recorded in the world

      Of course, I'm not special in these issues, but as far as I understand, the flu mutates and now there is an outbreak of pneumonia, that is, everyone used to have the flu, now everyone is sick with pneumonia.
      In my opinion, the massive use of protective equipment you mentioned is, how to say, clown in nature.
      1. JD1979
        JD1979 3 November 2020 15: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: bober1982
        In my opinion, the massive use of protective equipment you mentioned is, how to say, clown in nature.

        And you yourself put another one along the muzzle.
        Shl. Divorced experts ... Shkolota level undereducated. You tell the Chinese and the Asians in general. They didn’t suspect that the universal wearing of masks didn’t reduce the spread of the infection, you would just open their eyes. I think after that you will immediately be taken to WHO for the largest position)
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 3 November 2020 16: 23 New
          -2
          Quote: JD1979
          I think after that you will immediately be taken to WHO for the largest position)

          WHO is fully supported by B. Gates, they do not decide who and where to take to the biggest positions.
    2. ximkim
      ximkim 3 November 2020 17: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: certero
      Quote: ximkim
      sick .. here take the masks, as for me, they are no use

      It is precisely because of people like you that it is difficult to defeat this infection. You consider yourself smarter than everyone else.
      In fact, the use of masks by everyone, without exception, together with the identification of sick people, is the only way not to stop life in the country.
      by the way, for 2 weeks in a row, no flu has been recorded in the world. Precisely because the use of protective equipment has become widespread

      Wearing a mask is not a solution to the problem and a protection against infection.
      [quote Judging by the videos from the Internet, now there are two troubles: this is the Ministry of Health and the sick .. Here are the masks, as for me, they’re no use. When I put on a mask (plus she’s also a collection of everything bad from the inside), it’s hard for me to breathe and form unpleasant formations near the oral cavity, plus the inhalation of everything that remains there (and even in a larger volume), because a humid environment only allows bacteria and fungi to multiply more. I use public transport, and if I see a person with an unhealthy appearance and a cough, then I I distance myself from him or even get out of the bus. If I suddenly do not arches, then I do not expect that it will pass by itself, but I take measures. I try to take products that are light, less fatty, so as not to burden the body. Well, I also take preventive products and drugs. While carrying it., And the desire to eat not to get sick, and I do everything in order not to get sick] [/ quote] Read carefully my comment.
  8. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 3 November 2020 13: 05 New
    +5
    The authorities are taking action, naturally. But not against the threat! Such nonsense does not even enter the head of the modern authorities, and indeed they cannot. The authorities are taking action against being asked for not taking action. Tearing fines from voters and ruining the economy, this, to put it mildly, does not help against the virus, like the anecdotal epic with masks. But this perfectly creates a picture - the authorities are fighting for us! Don't sleep at night, panima ...
    Moreover, under this brand you can rip off money for masks. Squeeze out the hotel business. Squeeze out restaurants. A lot of this can be done in a crisis, especially if you have a cheat of endless money - a budget. Of course, when you have been destroying healthcare under the banner of optimization for almost thirty years, poisoning science and pharmaceutical production, all this cannot be reversed, even people start dying in the street by the millions. And you start mask mode ...

    Yes, you can listen to the scientists. Gather real specialists and work out real measures. But. There are no specialists among your colleagues in power. Basically. All with diplomas, most of them bought doctoral degrees from a Chechen, and some who did not hesitate to become an academician, but apart from the academy of theft and kickbacks, you really did not finish anything. So you have no idea where to look for these very specialists.

    And if you find, in the lists for destruction that your respected colleagues in the Ministry of Health, who have not yet been suppressed by the pros, have a much more important problem. You don't understand what the experts are talking about. The horizon of thinking is not the same. You have spent your whole life trying to get into power, hiding the fact that you are stumping, and you don't really understand anything. Achieved perfection in this. Now everyone thinks - you understand. And you are an oak tree. You are talking nonsense. You do not understand what to do with the recommendations given to you. You cannot understand which are important, which are not, what to do and how. And more than life you are afraid that it will become clear to others who you really are ...

    It is unreasonable to expect a reasonable reaction from the authorities. The wrong people.
    1. StarTroopers
      StarTroopers 3 November 2020 16: 57 New
      -2
      What are you talking about, which one to squeeze, why? Who cares about your hotel?
      Of course, when you have been destroying healthcare under the banner of optimization for almost thirty years, poisoning science and pharmaceutical production, all this cannot be reversed, even start dying millions on the street.

      Well, did you choose yourself? What are you whining now? It was a deliberate choice! They destroyed the USSR. Danced in the 90s on bones. And now all of a sudden everyone has become communists, no way it will not work.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 5 November 2020 09: 30 New
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        What do we mean by choosing? Whom? Doom clowns? Or is this capitalism? The bosses, whom we believed, told us - it is necessary. We will live well, development will begin at last. We didn't choose, we just believed. And that was a scam. That's the whole story about "our" choice ...
  9. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 3 November 2020 15: 14 New
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    Yes, this is such a kerdyk ...: (Okay, I'll go, I will get a depression, I will buy a new toy for two or three days' salary (no longer worth it ...)
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  11. StarTroopers
    StarTroopers 3 November 2020 17: 01 New
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    Quote: bober1982
    In my opinion, the massive use of protective equipment you mentioned is, how to say, clown in nature.

    Quite what? Tell that to those whose loved ones died that they are all clowns?
  12. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 3 November 2020 20: 53 New
    +1
    Utilization of the population through the collapse of medicine, utilization of pensions, etc. and so on. Soon the rotten dollar will grow. It will be very good soon. Many will move to the kingdom of the eternal hunt, however!