Iran announced that there is a "simple plan" for a complete settlement of the Karabakh conflict

Tehran's efforts are aimed at establishing peace in Nagorno-Karabakh. In this region, where it is not possible to stop hostilities in any way, Iran proposes not to limit itself to an armistice, but to resolve the issue radically.

Said Khatibzade, an official representative of the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Iran, said this at a briefing today.

He also said that Tehran expects a response from other states in the region to the "simple plan" proposed by the Islamic Republic to resolve the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Last week, the special envoy of the president for the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and deputy foreign minister of Iran Abbas Arakchi paid visits to Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia and Turkey, familiarizing the leadership of the listed countries with the plan proposed by Tehran.

According to the special representative, it is based on internationally recognized principles, including the inviolability of borders, respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states, the return of refugees to their homes and respect for the rights of national minorities.

A realistic view, a regional approach and the participation of influential countries in the region are the content of the Iranian plan. And this simple plan within the framework of a regional partnership is intended to address this issue and encourage both parties to fulfill the requirements and obligations

- said Arakchi in an interview with the Azerbaijani TV channel ITV.

Meanwhile, fighting in Karabakh has not subsided for the second month. Both sides report about fortitude, victories, and also that "the enemy is about to be broken." At the same time, everything goes to the fact that an armed conflict can drag on for a long time, if it is not extinguished now. And Iran decided to act politically and diplomatically more actively, making it clear that it does not need a war on its borders.

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[Mountain shooter]

Introduce the IRGC division into the territory of Artsakh, and all the "sha" ... But what, these can!

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Hello!

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Introduce the IRGC division into Artsakh, and all "sha

As they enter, they will forget the exit. Both sides will be disassembled into molecules.
If serious. That such a "gift" sleeps and sees Israel, the United States and Turkey.
I think it would be superfluous to remind you what will happen to the ayatols. Karabakh in this situation will fade into the background.

[Volodin]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Both sides will be disassembled into molecules.

Then the Houthis will come and disperse everyone ... Joke))

[mitroha]

And this simple plan within the framework of a regional partnership is intended to address this issue and encourage both parties to fulfill the requirements and obligations

And what kind of plan is that?
Or is it they, like in a joke, traveled all the countries with their "plan"?

[Bogatyrev]

Simply put, they propose to give Karabakh to Azerbaijan, giving them some autonomy, but leaving the military control of Baku. Given that everyone understands that Baku does not recognize any rights of Armenians to Karabakh and will do everything so that they are not there in the long term, this is tantamount to surrender.
I think the Armenians will not agree to this and will stand up to the last soldier.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

That such a "gift" sleeps and sees Israel, the United States and Turkey.

I don’t know how it is for the United States and Turkey, but Israel’s Karabakh is certainly purple.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Hello!

Quote: A. Privalov

but Israel's Karabakh is certainly purple.

I was referring to an excuse to rein in Iran. Considering that Israel highly appreciates Az. As an ally in the South. The Caucasus. Link to Avigdor Lieberman.
At the moment, the Leader of the party * Our House Israel *.

[NTD]

Quote: A. Privalov

but Israel's Karabakh is certainly purple.

In my opinion, no one read the article to the end. If not understood, Iran has merged Armenia.

Iran also merged Armenia.

According to the special representative, he based on internationally recognized principles, including the inviolability of borders, respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of statesreturning refugees to their homes

If nobody understood, then Iran is for the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Salam!

Quote: MTN

In my opinion, no one read the article to the end.

I think you read it after all. They just didn't understand the meaning of the article.

Quote: MTN

If not understood, Iran has merged Armenia.

Possible.
And most likely the instinct of self-preservation worked.
Given at the moment, without exaggeration, the close attention of key powers to the conflict.
Try to avoid unnecessary "body movements".

[NTD]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

I think you read it after all. They just didn't understand the meaning of the article.

You may be right.

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Given at the moment, without exaggeration, the close attention of key powers to the conflict.

There is such a thing, then it was necessary to simply refrain from interviews, but he publicly and openly says that we are for territorial integrity. Borders should not be changed. And also let other peoples live within Azerbaijan. The Foreign Ministry says openly, this is a slap in the face for the Iranian-Armenian love.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: MTN

There is such a thing, then you just had to refrain from interviews,

Ambition!
This is what drives the ayatolas. Give importance to its status as a regional power and try to seize the "levers" of settlement from the Russian Federation or the United States.

[NTD]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Give importance to its status as a regional power and try to seize the "levers" of settlement from the Russian Federation or the United States.

Of course, Iran has significance, but not like everyone thinks. Believe me, if NATO gets together, Iran will be torn to shreds. Iran will not be able to resist NATO. Even 1 Israel can handle Iran. The Iranian army is widely blacklisted.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: MTN

Believe me, if NATO gets together, Iran will be torn to shreds.

I totally agree with you!

Quote: MTN

Even 1 Israel can handle Iran. The Iranian army is widely blacklisted.

I do not feel a shadow of doubt about the outcome of this confrontation.

[K-612-O]

Well, then, it wasn't NATO that was not torn for the Iranian base? Or do several thousand medium-range missiles and a huge mob resource influence this? And it’s easier to arrange a coup in Baku and throw off your sinnite-lackey.

[Diverter]

Well, Iran leaked Armenia. So what? We only need Armenia as a base for Turkey. Everything! It is no longer needed in its current form!

[NTD]

Quote: Saboteur

Well, Iran leaked Armenia. So what?

Hana that's what!

[Diverter]

to whom? Armenia? nothing will happen to her, because no one will climb into her territory. But the current regime in Armenia may have a khan. Nuuuuu and good))

[bayard]

Quote: MTN

If nobody understood, then Iran is for the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.

And this is good . And even true.
If anyone has not noticed, in general, Armenia in Karabakh has already been drained. Because "it's her own fault."
And in everything.
And of course, the neighbors of Azerbaijan (and Armenia) do not need a war in the region, so initiatives have been launched, and all of them ignore the Armenian ambitions in Karabakh.
Remove Pashinyan, bring him to justice, put someone sane and negotiate. Moreover, the window in the agreements is ONLY on cultural autonomy within Azerbaijan and complete demilitarization.
That's life .
In all the severity of their laws.

[Civil]

But seriously, you can't put the minced meat back into the cow. It was this peaceful situation that was at the very beginning of the war in the late 80s. There cave Nazism on both sides.

[fa2998]

In the eternal Israel-Iran confrontation, when troops are deployed to Karabakh, Iran, represented by the "world community", will be an AGGRESSOR. Naturally, condemnation and sanctions. To the joy of Israel.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

If serious. That such a "gift" sleeps and sees Israel, the United States and Turkey

Nothing will happen. There will be elections tomorrow. For a month or two, foreign policy activity will be paralyzed. Israel versus Iran without the US? Unlikely. Turkey? Well, she'll get it in the nose ... hard.

[Orange bigg]

According to the special representative, it is based on internationally recognized principles, including the inviolability of borders, respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states, the return of refugees to their homes and respect for the rights of national minorities.

That is, the Armenians are offered to leave Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh), which is unacceptable for them, or to live already within Azerbaijan, which is hardly possible in reality.

[novel66]

it's called: simplicity is worse than stealing

[tihonmarine]

Quote: OrangeBigg

That is, the Armenians are invited to leave Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh), which is unacceptable for them or to live already within Azerbaijan.

Well, it turns out that there is no way out of the impasse.

[Operator]

The Iranian plan completely coincides with the Azerbaijani one: the return of Karabakh and neighboring regions to the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan with guarantees to the Armenian minority from Iran and Turkey, which translated into Russian means a quick deportation of Armenians to Armenia under the expression of Iran and Turkey's concerns.

International law is strong, however.

[Orange bigg]

In vain Iran is on the side of Azerbaijan. The Azerbaijanis are deciding the Karabakh issue and will continue to closely support separatism, the lands inhabited by Azerbaijanis in Iran. Turkey and Israel, the Arabs will unite in a possible war against Iran. It will be beneficial for them to crush Iran.

[NTD]

Quote: OrangeBigg

In vain Iran is on the side of Azerbaijan.

There are 30 million Azerbaijanis living there. Do you think this is a joke? Half of the Iranian army are Turks.

Quote: OrangeBigg

The Azerbaijanis will solve the Karabakh issue and will further engage in close support of separatism, the lands inhabited by Azerbaijanis that are part of Iran.

If Azerbaijan wanted to engage in separatism, it would have done it earlier. Iran has enough "FRIENDS" and without Azerbaijan there will be enough separatism.

Quote: OrangeBigg

Turkey and Israel, Arabs will unite in a possible war against Iran

Alas, it's a matter of time. After Syria, Iran's turn.

[CSKA]

Quote: MTN

There are 30 million Azerbaijanis living there.

You haven't overestimated the figure too much? 16% is 13 million.

Quote: MTN

Half of the Iranian army is the Turki

Again, how was it calculated?

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Lavrov-Cavusoglu pact: will Karabakh be exchanged for a "corridor" for Baku to Nakhichevan?
The true goal of Azerbaijan is to create an Islamic crescent throughout the Caucasus.
An article in the "Free Press".

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT

Lavrov-Cavusoglu pact: will Karabakh be exchanged for a "corridor" for Baku to Nakhichevan?
The true goal of Azerbaijan is to create an Islamic crescent throughout the Caucasus

If this happens, Armenia will lose its border with Iran, the last friendly neighbor.
And then the very existence of Armenia will depend solely on the goodwill of its neighbors.

[gurzuf]

Not only and not so much from the "goodwill of the neighbors", but again from Russia and from the treaty that exists now and which was mentioned by the GDP.

[Buka001]

Armenia already exists, solely from the goodwill of Russia. But something in their heads has gone bad in the last few years, it seems like total madness. Bark and snap at mother Russia)))

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

If this happens, Armenia will lose its border with Iran, the last friendly neighbor.
And then the very existence of Armenia will depend solely on the goodwill of its neighbors.

Yes, I just gave a different opinion, and of course there are a number of incomprehensible ways of resettling people, and whether Iran will be a friend for a long time is also unknown.

[tralflot1832]

Even I did not understand, in this plan. The return of refugees, respect for the rights of minorities. This is the language of diplomacy. If this is said to the Azerbaijani channel, then everything is clear in the position of Iran. Again, Armenians are a bummer!

[Tank hard]

Yeah .., divorced peacekeepers.

[Orange bigg]

At the expense of others. You Armenians leave their homes and the war will end.

[NTD]

Quote: OrangeBigg

You Armenians are leaving their homes and the war will end.

But sarcasm is no longer necessary. The Armenians are allowed to sit at home and then the Azerbaijanis can be driven away? or the 2nd are not people?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: MTN

or the 2nd are not people?

and those and those people, just the latter are no better than the first

[KAVBER]

Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are returning to Russia as republics and Russia is putting things in order there, this is the most correct plan for resolving the situation in this region. Yes, and Mount Ararat must return to us.

[Orange bigg]

So far, everything is going to the fact that the countries you named will eventually become part of the new Ottoman Empire. Turkey bought Georgia and Azerbaijan with giblets, over time, thanks to the pro-American Pashinyans, will buy Armenia. Then comes the war of the pro-Western coalition with the pro-Chinese Iran. Now just for this, the clearing is being cleared.

[tralflot1832]

No, the great Ottoman Empire, if you believe the history of the southern coast of the Mediterranean to France was. So to the west and only to the west. Especially since there are many Masulman in Europe. Hands off Iran!

[NTD]

Quote: OrangeBigg

This is followed by the war of the pro-Western coalition with the pro-Chinese Iran.

What else aboutChinese))) This is something new. Trust me, if the West wants to, without 1 shot, it will send the Chinese economy to the Qin Dynasty.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: MTN

Quote: OrangeBigg

This is followed by the war of the pro-Western coalition with the pro-Chinese Iran.

What else aboutChinese))) This is something new. Trust me, if the West wants to, without 1 shot, it will send the Chinese economy to the Qin Dynasty.

The West has not yet wanted to send China into the Qin Dynasty, or has it not? You're funny. In a couple of years, China will replace the United States, just as Chinese smartphones replaced Apple products. The first economy in the world is now China. And your current ideas about China were correct 20 years ago, but today are hopelessly outdated. Do not live in the past.

[Ganja]

Strange, but where until 1991 were all the republics, by and large? After the establishment of the Soviet power, the Armenians, starting from 1946, were doing ethnic cleansing and cutting off the territory of Azerbaijan outside Nagorno-Karabakh. A reasonable question arises: Where was the Kremlin looking? The answer is simple: In the pocket, as well as nepotism and other not very fraternal things from the side of the Armenians. Result: there is no Soviet Union. It turns out that we all went through this period. Thank you no more

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: KAVBER

Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijanis return to Russia as republics, and Russia is putting things in order there,

It seems to me that Chechnya and Dagestan are enough for us. Here already sitting .. So let Armenia and Azerbaijanis return their diaspora to their historical homeland and fight to the last drop of blood!

[Rubina]

And remind me when you took Mount Ararat so that she would return to you?

[NTD]

Quote: Rubina

And remind me when you took Mount Ararat so that she would return to you?

That's a very good question. When I studied in Europe, ask any Kurd where you came from, everyone answers from Kurdistan. Many people think that there is such a poor country, which the Turks and everyone do not allow to live in peace. True, I always shouted from the place, show on the map where this country is located ..... Sha-ka-ly !!!! So I put them out. Likewise, their friends, the Armenians, help the poor "People of Par-tsakh" Everyone begins to think that a poor country like Par-tsakh does not allow poor people to live by evil Turks. This is how these cunningly (_, _) throw the whole world.

[Orange bigg]

I always shouted from the place, show on the map where this country is ...

So because of the fighting that erupts from time to time in southeastern Turkey, you will not see Kurdistan on the map. But you will not deny the existence of Kurds?

[gurzuf]

Yes, by the way, if it goes on like this, then indeed the Kurds will have to be supported in their holy struggle for their independence.

[Hello from Baku]

Not a fan of VVP, but he sometimes speaks very accurately, I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the quote, no offense, the meaning - Whoever does not regret the collapse of the Union does not have a heart, who wants to restore has no mind.

[KAVBER]

And no one is talking about the restoration of the USSR, then the outskirts were treated like brothers, but the brothers stuck a knife in the back, when Russia got a little sick, now everything should be different

[Hello from Baku]

Who exactly?

[Buka001]

Dear, Azerbaijan also thought and believed that all the brothers gave part of the land, natural resources, etc., but in return received a knife in the back. The younger sister Armenia stuck the knife, and the older brother of the RSFSR for some reason supported her. And there is no answer why and why. Many Baku Armenians and Russians, leaving Bauu, were crying and they were thrown away by the Azeris. And they didn't cut like the Armenians !!! Even the Armenian singer Bokko sings a song about Baku, my city is called mine (https://youtu.be/S5ddxu-ZwC4) Listen and this will be an answer to what people of another nation feel who left Azerbaijan because of these events.

[paul3390]

Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijanis return to Russia as republics

And what the hell to us ??? Or do we have an acute shortage of Armenians and Azerbaijanis in Russia?

[Tank jacket]

And at this time in Poland, riots began ... Sorosyats destabilize all border regions, the reason is the alleged ban on abortions.
President Andrzej Duda tried to smooth over the situation. He introduced a bill to parliament allowing the termination of pregnancy if the death of a child is imminent.

"Together with experts, norms should be prepared so that, for example, children with Down syndrome are protected, and women are not subjected to physical and psychological suffering. I expected the Constitutional Court to leave time to clarify the norms in this area," the Polish president said.

[novel66]

maybe teach them to protect themselves? Ruslan

[Tank jacket]

Novel, , it would be better to teach people in Ukraine, Armenia, Poland, Georgia, USA, Kyrgyzstan, Belarus, Russia not to arrange Maidan and other riots to the drum of Soros and liberal financial globalists?

[Grits]

Quote: Tank jacket

it would be better to teach people in Ukraine, Armenia, Poland, Georgia, USA, Kyrgyzstan, Belarus, Russia not to arrange Maidan and other disorder

Personally, I am FOR the riots in the USA

[Tank jacket]

I can imagine Black Life Matter or some other gangs have seized a nuclear power plant or a warehouse with nuclear weapons.

[Grits]

Quote: Tank jacket

I can imagine Black Life Matter or some other gangs have seized a nuclear power plant or a warehouse with nuclear weapons.

And for God's sake. They won't be able to launch in our direction anyway. But they themselves will quickly die. The whole world will only give a standing ovation to such gangs.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Gritsa

Personally, I am FOR the riots in the USA

And what exactly do you have against the riots in England, France, Poland, Germany, Turkey and other NATO countries?

[Grits]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

And what exactly do you have against the riots in England, France, Poland, Germany, Turkey and other NATO countries?

I have nothing against it. But in the USA it is much more sincere.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Captain Pushkin

And what exactly do you have against the riots in England, France, Poland, Germany, Turkey and other NATO countries?

I have nothing against it. But in the USA it is much more sincere.

As Trotsky said, the Civil War should be reflected in the press as fully as possible and let it last as long as possible.
This ghoul was referring to the war in Soviet Russia, but for me, these wishes of the United States are better suited ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Tank jacket

And at this time in Poland, riots began ... Sorosyats destabilize all border regions, the reason is the alleged ban on abortion

There is already an interesting video on this topic.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Tank jacket

Meanwhile, riots broke out in Poland.

And even a new anecdote appeared on this topic:

Lukashenko called Duda. He didn't say anything, only laughed. Until Duda hung up the phone.

[Tank jacket]

funny anecdote Thank you. And the video credit ...

[rotmistr60]

Deputy Foreign Minister of Iran Abbas Arakchi traveled to Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia and Turkey,

The pursuit of peace is commendable. But, something suggests that Turkey, and therefore Azerbaijan, does not accept this proposal. 5 plus 2 regions no longer suit Azerbaijan, because Give them all of Karabakh and who is behind this is also clear.

[flicker]

Iran announced that there is a "simple plan" for a complete settlement of the Karabakh conflict

Well, yes.
A simple plan is when the knot is not untied, but cut.

[pavelty]

I see that no one thinks that Russia is a slightly stronger player on this board ...

[Naughty]

Quote: KAVBER

Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are returning to Russia as republics and Russia is putting things in order there, this is the most correct plan for resolving the situation in this region. Yes, and Mount Ararat must return to us.

They forgot to add Constantinople and also Dnipropetrovsk Kharkov and further on the Ukrainian list The main thing is who will feed them and wipe the snot write

[babylon]

Who feeds us?

[newcomer]

The RA received assurances from the Russian Federation of assistance in the event of an attack on it. Now, the RA Armed Forces can join the battle in Karabakh. In my opinion, the most interesting time begins. And I still can't understand why Pashinyan is still sitting on the throne? Go away on your own, so what are the Armenian soldiers waiting for? Time is playing against RA.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: newbie

The RA received assurances from the Russian Federation of assistance in the event of an attack on it. Now, the RA Armed Forces can join the battle in Karabakh. In my opinion, the most interesting time begins. And I still can't understand why Pashinyan is still sitting on the throne? Go away on your own, so what are the Armenian soldiers waiting for? Time is playing against RA.

The Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia have been fighting there from the first day, and as regards the official entry into the war, Azerbaijan will become a victim of aggression, since this NKR is not recognized even by Armenia itself, therefore, the Russian Federation is not obliged to support the aggressor, Baku can hit from Nakhichevan. It all depends on the desire of the Russian Federation.

[newcomer]

NKR_ as if you, the Jews, including, didn’t like_ a separate state. First, there will follow an official request for help to the RA, then the NKR assistance in restoring the integrity of the territory will follow.
From Nakhichevan, your Baku, will not strike, since the RA has already enlisted the support of the CSTO. It was this Ottoman maneuver of cutting from Nakhichevan that fettered the RA Armed Forces. Now, no hindrance.

[Krasnodar]

We have Jews, not to offend you, it will be said, the same attitude towards Gabon and the NKR. The only thing is that the purchasing power of Gabon is most likely higher, and they do not yell about the genocide, holding weapons in their hands, while having the opportunity to evacuate children and women
Baku is Azerbaijani, and you enlisted the support of Russia alone - and even then, in the event of aggression against Armenia, and it is unclear - justified or not))
It all depends on Putin's desire

[newcomer]

Your country is the real Gabon, pure buy and sell.
Don't touch the genocide with your dirty paws. The only thing I agree on is “Baku is Azerbaijani.” But aggression, it is aggression, justified or not_ this cannot be. Although you may have. Putin, at the head of the Russian Federation, will play out in anticipation, will have many interesting consequences.

[Krasnodar]

But I don’t argue - we are a nation of Shoemakers and Violinists, not marshals and generals
Our "dirty paws" were the only time when the Maidan was arranged in the country when they did not want to establish diplomatic relations with the FRG in exchange for reparations for the destruction of their loved ones, unlike all the Aruyunians who shout about genocide when they received a little in the face.
How can this not be justified? If you bring troops into the territory of Azerbaijan Deyure - i.e. NKR, you are the aggressor And Baku is the defending side.
From whom will Putin have many interesting consequences? From you, or what? Or from Erdogan? ))

[newcomer]

In the coffin we saw your "de jure", flawed. Yes, you are a nation, I do not argue, but what the devil only knows. And the consequences will not come from me, personally, or from the RA, but from the Ottomans, with your, so to speak, interest and ardent participation. And now screaming, why should we die for (?) Armenians, then, when the terrorists fed by the Ottomans, the Yankees and your own nation personally begin to slaughter under the belly of the Russian Federation, right up to the Volga region, then all of you will start screaming, but why did Putin not enter Karabakh? ! But it is interesting to ask about the PMR, is there also, in your opinion, the legal territory of Moldova? Or is there a people, or people who have the right to self-determination, but there are those to whom it is? Or maybe the Russian Federation simply fell for the fact that Baku is richer than Yerevan? Well, Baku has long ago left the zone of influence of the Russian Federation. Read the following article, where already lifentrop Aliyev indicates the direction of action of the Russian Federation. In addition, I repeat: the RF Armed Forces will not defend their interests at the approaches to the borders, which means they will defend themselves already inside the country. With great sacrifices and losses. Or have already forgotten how far the barmaley crawled into Chechenskaya.

[Krasnodar]

1) Well, of course, flawed, we at the age of modern Armenia had only one representative Mercedes in the whole country, but two dozen nuclear charges. You, as a nation of Generals and Marshals - the picture is the opposite
2) The consequences of the Ottomans, due to the above factor, are not critical to us
3)

Then, when the terrorists, fed by the Ottomans, Yankees and personally by your nation, begin to slaughter under the belly of the Russian Federation, right up to the Volga region, then all of you will start yelling, why did not Putin enter Karabakh ?!

And what should Putin do in Azerbaijan Recognize the NKR - it is you, Armenia, officially, then bring in a bunch of Armenian volunteers from Russia there, and only then Russia will be able to officially get into a conflict in which a large number of Russian citizens take part
4) PMR - there are about half of the Russians
5)

Or maybe the Russian Federation simply fell for the fact that Baku is richer than Yerevan? Well, Baku has long ago left the zone of influence of the Russian Federation. Read the following article, where already lifentrop Aliyev indicates the direction of action of the Russian Federation

Armenia also left the zone of influence of the Russian Federation, while Baku pays for everything at once, does not beg for anything, especially the participation of Russians in a showdown with a neighbor
6) Now, if the evil Turks enter Armenia, the Russian Federation will defend itself on distant borders - what does Azerbaijan have to do with it?
7) In Chechnya, Armenia seriously defended Russia

[newcomer]

Chechen republic_ is the territory of the Russian Federation, to begin with. Meanwhile, the NKR Armed Forces near Shushi destroyed Ottoman specialists like them hired bearded men from Syria. With which I congratulate the Ottomans. Tell me, why the Azerbaijanis need something from the Russian Federation, if they are near Turkey, which satisfies all the needs of Baku. Since you have touched upon the term "de jure", what difference does it make to how many Russians are there in the PMR? Here's your case, better chew your head. Well, if the consequences of the repetition of the massacre by the Islamists, personally to you, are not critical, then I better bow down. You are truly a wonderful cynic.

[Krasnodar]

1) Nagorno-Karabakh is a disputed territory between Azerbaijan and Armenia. What can Russians do there? Defend against the Ottomans, who are not afraid of them?
2) Why did the Azerbaijanis buy Russian weapons worth at least $ 3 billion?
3) I explain - the PMR is de jure Moldova, de facto - there is half of the Russian population. De Jure Karabakh - Azerbaijan. De facto, 98% of living there are Armenians, Russians - less than a percent. Who is Russia to fit in for? For a dubiously friendly people?
4) And - my favorite moment - the Islamist reference Armenia is quite friendly with the Islamic Republic of Iran, for vital reasons, I agree.
The fighters of Asala, the militant Armenian organization, from which the national hero of Armenia Avo came, was quite cool collaborating with the Palestinian terrorists in Lebanon. And here - on you, radish Islamists
Well, this is already such duplicity ... transparent, primitive, but no less disgusting from this ..

[Liam]

Quote: Krasnodar

de facto, half of the population is Russian.

Come on)

[Krasnodar]

Shalom, blast the meu!
What is more? Less? Mixed up? ))

[Liam]

Less, of course. It was always about 30%.

[Krasnodar]

Ok, then a third. But not one percent, as in NKR)) If not less

[Liam]

Well, then Ukraine also needs to intervene. Ukrainians are also 30%. Like Moldovans)

[Krasnodar]

Then I was right - I counted Ukrainians and Russians together As for the Moldovans - they seem to be Russified there, in terms of mentality. I could be wrong

[Liam]

At present, on the contrary, it is necessary)

[Krasnodar]

And what do the PMRs themselves want?

[Liam]

PMR prays that at least someone would intervene ... but everyone is deeply indifferent, including Moldova)

[Krasnodar]

What? Want someone to join them?

[Liam]

Naturally, every couple of years they spend on a referendum on joining the Russian Federation. But Russia does not hear from this ear. And then, out of grief, all PMR businesses are registered in Moldova, with accounts in Moldovan banks and payments to the Moldovan budget. Independence as it is. The truth is pensions. and Russia supplies gas for free)

[Krasnodar]

Whose passports do they have?

[Liam]

Mostly Moldovan, and Ukrainian too.

[Krasnodar]

Visa-free, but in the EU)))

[Liam]

That's right, independence is independence, but you need to eat)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/russian/features-53473215.amp

[Krasnodar]

Full trash

[Liam]

By the way, how many% are Russians in Syria and Libya?)

[Krasnodar]

The nearest large community is in Israel

[Liam]

In short, the% of Russians is not a decisive value for intervention. In Syria and Libya, there are even fewer Russians than in the NKR. Another fig leaf to cover up helplessness is Pashinan’s liberality and greed). A lifeline straight.

[Krasnodar]

Why helplessness - who needs to get involved in interethnic squabbles between the historical homelands of the two large Russian diasporas? Now, if Armenia were on the Mediterranean Sea, it would radically change the situation)).

[Avior]

The RA received assurances from the Russian Federation of assistance in the event of an attack on it. Now, the RA Armed Forces can join the battle in Karabakh.

if the RA Armed Forces enter the battle in Karabakh, it means that the RA was not attacked.

[newcomer]

The entry of the RA Armed Forces behind the NKR does not mean an attack on the RA. The attack on the RA will be precisely the attack on the RA. Assurances of effective assistance allow the Armenian Armed Forces to free up forces to help Karabakh, which were formed by the expectation of an attack.

[Avior]

If the RA is the first to officially start hostilities, this means that the question of attacking the RA is automatically removed.

[newcomer]

RA does not start hostilities, RA will help NKR to suppress the Ottoman aggression.

[Avior]

That is, the fighting begins
Clear
Or will they suppress with leaflets?

[yfast]

Quote: newbie

And I still can't understand why Pashinyan is still sitting on the throne? Go away on your own, so what are the Armenian soldiers waiting for?

Who will plant him, he's a monument. And the warriors are still busy, fighting and dying at the front.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: pavlentiy

I see that no one thinks that Russia is a slightly stronger player on this board ...

The stronger it is, of course, but the logistics are very difficult and can easily be made even more difficult.
It is one thing to act as an arbiter, and another to climb to separate a drunken fight with stabbing without covered rear.

[Trojan_wolf]

The main problem in this conflict is Pashinyan, his place on the sidelines of politics.

[fif21]

Azerbaijan and the territory of Artsakh previously belonged to Iran. Let them take away

[Livonetc]

Let's continue then.
The Erivan Khanate can be restored.
As part of the new Ottoman Empire.
And scraps will fly through the back streets.
Apparently, this is primarily feared in Armenia.
Therefore, the Armed Forces of Armenia take care.
Not how the Sultan will decide what.

[NTD]

Quote: fif21

Azerbaijan and the territory of Artsakh previously belonged to Iran. Let them take away

And Iran has always been in the hands of Azerbaijanis.

[babylon]

It is necessary to lead the peacekeepers of Iran and Russia to Karabakh and then peace will surely come for a long time.

[NTD]

Iran also merged Armenia.

According to the special representative, it is based on internationally recognized principles, including inviolability of borders, respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states, and the return of refugees to their homes.

If nobody understood, then Iran is for the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

I was referring to an excuse to rein in Iran. Considering that Israel highly appreciates Az. As an ally in the South. The Caucasus. Link to Avigdor Lieberman.
At the moment, the Leader of the party * Our House Israel *.

The expression "rein in Iran" is no more than a form of speech. There is nothing behind it. Lieberman could be referred to when he was Minister of Defense. Today he is the leader of a small opposition party, of which we have 30.
Iran has no territorial, material or economic claims against Israel and vice versa. This must be understood.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: A. Privalov

The expression "rein in Iran" is no more than a form of speech.

In my opinion, as anyone. Although there is a precedent. This includes preventive strikes on the territory of Iran, the elimination of odious figures of the regime. And finally, the "mysterious" deaths of nuclear physicists.

Quote: A. Privalov

Lieberman could be referred to when he was Minister of Defense. Today he is the leader of a small opposition party, of which we have 30.

But you will not argue that Lieberman is currently expressing the point of view of the official circles of Israel.

Quote: A. Privalov

Iran has no territorial, material or economic claims against Israel and vice versa

YHWH! With you!
I strongly disagree with you. And the calls of the ayatolas for "expansion" are terrific. Palestinian how you interpret. I no longer mention radical theses about the very existence of the State of Israel!
And how will you interpret these calls?
In my humble opinion, at least CLAIMS.

Quote: A. Privalov

This must be understood

I refuse!

[A. Privalov]

What strikes against Iranian territory are you talking about? What odious figures?

Lieberman today does not express any official points of view. I repeat, he is an opposition deputy. Dot.

Ayatol calls? Radical theses? For such ridiculous claims, wars are not started. In your opinion, it turns out that Israel was waiting for Karabakh to start "stringing" Iran?

Yes, Israel always takes any threats against itself seriously, however, I have already explained many times here that Iran cannot reach Israel today, nor fly, nor even swim. He has his worries up to his nostrils.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: A. Privalov

What strikes against Iranian territory are you talking about?

July 3, 2020 The blow was inflicted on the nuclear object on the territe. Iran.

Quote: A. Privalov

What odious figures?

January 3, 2020 liquidation of Qasem Suleimani Kerman.

Quote: A. Privalov

Lieberman today does not express any official points of view.

On this score, I cannot agree with you. Lieberman is an influential figure.

Quote: A. Privalov

I repeat, he is an opposition deputy. Dot.

Dear!
Your categoricalness is discouraging. You are monopolizing the alternative point of view as an argument.
I am far from thinking that to scare you or try to question your objectivity.
I am sorry that you misinterpret my arguments.

Quote: A. Privalov

Ayatol calls? Radical theses? For such ridiculous claims, wars are not started.

Dear Alexander!
There would be a reason, there will always be an excuse to interpret the situation as an incident bailey.
And who told you on my behalf that Israel will certainly start a full-scale database over Karabakh?

Quote: A. Privalov

In your opinion, it turns out that Israel was waiting for Karabakh to start "stringing" Iran?

If you take your comment literally, no.
But to paraphrase, you will agree that Israel will certainly take advantage of the situation if Iran, against the will of the conflicting parties, enters Karabakh.

Quote: A. Privalov

Iran cannot reach Israel today, nor fly, nor even swim. He has his worries up to his nostrils.

I agree with you.
But figuratively speaking, "reach out" in a state.
On a hustle. Through the Gaza Strip. * Hezbollah * Paprimer.

[A. Privalov]

Dear, Israel has not inflicted any blows on Iran, do not sew him and the general. Your theses are far-fetched. If you want to build, as you say, an alternative point of view, then you are welcome. But please don't get me into this. I have lived here for more than thirty years, I observe what is happening with my own eyes, I feel it on my own skin in full reality, and you are trying to sell me some naive theories while you are far away. Sorry.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: A. Privalov

Dear, Israel has not inflicted any blows on Iran, do not sew him and the general.

I respect your opinion. And in no case did I want to appear before you as a "tailor" in this context of our dialogue.

Quote: A. Privalov

Your theses are far-fetched. If you want to build, as you say, an alternative point of view, then you are welcome.

Alas! Rhetoric and general phrases that are not supported by facts.

Quote: A. Privalov

I have lived here for more than thirty years, I observe what is happening with my own eyes, I feel it on my own skin in full reality, and you are trying to sell me some naive theories while you are far away.

I just tried to convey to you the generally accepted point of view and did not try to "sell" something to you

Quote: A. Privalov

Sorry.

You have nothing to apologize to me for!
I respect your point of view, although I do not share.
Peace to you and health!

[Bilal]

Quote: fif21

Azerbaijan and the territory of Artsakh previously belonged to Iran. Let them take away

If you look at the historical maps, it turns out that the lands of Iran (at different times under different names from Ilam to Khajars and Pahlavi) never went beyond the Araz River. True, the territories of the upper Araz were at times the Iranian zone of influence ...

[Knell wardenheart]

The whole plan is to chat, that's all that is clear.

[Vovk]

However, a lot of people climbed into the minerals of Nagorno-Karabakh, especially gold ... Turks with Azerbaijanis, China and Israel, so also Iran will grab on the sly. The Armenian oligarchs will obviously be left without pants ... without them, everything was divided.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Let the Armenians be taken back to their homeland Azerbaijan is defeating Armenia "because Armenia has Russian weapons" - in general, perhaps, one of the most widespread (specially spread?) Delusions. In reality, it was Azerbaijan that all the previous years was bought "as if not into itself" ... with Russian weapons! Sourse of information? Will the head of the Azerbaijani state be satisfied personally?

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Armenians were thrown twice ... first, our Foreign Ministry, now also the United States))))) Moreover, their own diaspora squealed "Pashinyan must leave." We are waiting for Pashinyan to leave. 

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Moreover, their own diaspora shouted "Pashinyan must leave."

Duc how came it and go

[Old26]

Quote: MTN

In my opinion, no one read the article to the end. If not understood, Iran has merged Armenia.

Absolutely right.

According to the special representative, it is based on internationally recognized principles, including the inviolability of borders, respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states, the return of refugees to their homes and respect for the rights of national minorities.

1.on internationally recognized principles, including the inviolability of borders, respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states
And the internationally recognized borders are the borders of Azerbaijan at the time of gaining independence as a result of the collapse of the Union and the belonging of the NKAO to Azerbaijan

2. return of refugees to their homes and respect for the rights of national minorities.
Return of Azerbaijani residents of the seven occupied regions of Azerbaijan and Nagorno-Karabakh to their places of residence, from where they fled in the early 90s

3. respect for the rights of national minorities.
This is what Aliyev said - broad autonomy for the Armenian residents of Karabakh.

In fact, Iran has dotted all the th, having decided on whose sides it is ...

Quote: Saboteur

Well, Iran leaked Armenia. So what? We only need Armenia as a base for Turkey. Everything! It is no longer needed in its current form!

Can be moved 200 km to the east. It's still better than having a base 10-20 km from the border. I think that Azerbaijan will not refuse us this. And the base will cool the hot heads of the neighbors

Quote: OrangeBigg

That is, the Armenians are offered to leave Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh), which is unacceptable for them, or to live already within Azerbaijan, which is hardly possible in reality.

Well, if it is unacceptable to leave the occupied territory - what is it then called? And what is so difficult about living within Azerbaijan? Do Armenians live in Azerbaijan? Why can't a peaceful person live in Karabakh? Especially if there is no blood on their hands ...

Quote: KAVBER

Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are returning to Russia as republics and Russia is putting things in order there, this is the most correct plan for resolving the situation in this region. Yes, and Mount Ararat must return to us.

Don't tell my slippers. There is only one option when they will become part of Russia. When Russia becomes RICH. When the standard of living in Russia will be such that everyone around will envy her. When Russia will have a powerful economy. Only then. But this is not even visible on the horizon. Therefore, none of them will voluntarily join Russia. It is better to be a master in your small state, and not an ordinary in a large family of peoples of the USSR 2.0
And Ararat ... One gets the impression that who writes such sentences lives in a world of invented fantasies and looks at the world through rose-colored glasses? Why should Turkey give us Ararat ???

[Naughty]

Quote: vavilon

Who feeds us?

Write where you are from And I will answer you who feeds

[fa2998]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

There will be elections tomorrow.

Trump wins tomorrow and the situation remains the same ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: fa2998

Trump wins tomorrow and the situation remains the same ...

or Biden ... and the situation remains the same
although no ... not the same. over there, by the time of the elections, the population is actively buying weapons, and small business is digging in like the Armenians in Shusha. sympathy of the population 50/50 and whoever won, the loser will drag his half into the street.
this will be Sores' most colossal scam!

[Senka naughty]

Weak plan, does not "take" at all.

[iouris]

We jumped. Have fun. Whoever is in charge and rummaging in the wreckage of the USSR.

[Kuzmitsky]

That's it. For too long from the sidelines or a little downwardly they looked at the neighboring former Soviet republics. And now they suddenly noticed that anyone is in charge there, but not us. Why be surprised? A holy place is never empty.

[Dmitry Simakin]

The simplest plan: Azerbaijan together with Karabakh - Iran, Armenia and Georgia - Russia, Turkey in half ...