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Japanese professor: Lavrov's possible resignation would help update the negotiations on the "northern territories"

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The Japanese media segment is discussing information that concerns the self-isolation of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Observer Kenro Nagoshi presents his version of the possible development of events in connection with the "events".


Professor, employee of the Japanese Center for International Studies, Mr. Nagoshi, guided by unconfirmed rumors, writes that Sergei Lavrov may soon resign from the post of head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

The Japanese author refers to several Russian information resources, including those that a few months ago talked about "Sergei Lavrov's request to the head of state to relieve him of his post."

Kenro Nagoshi, clinging to such rumors and publications, makes it clear that in Tokyo the resignation of Sergei Lavrov from the post of Russian Foreign Minister would be perceived positively due to one factor. The Japanese professor notes that the new leadership of Japan "expects that with the change of the head of the Foreign Ministry, negotiations on the islands could get off the ground." We are talking about the Southern Kuril Islands, which Japan is trying to get under its jurisdiction.

The author recalls Sergei Lavrov's unequivocal position, which is expressed in the following thesis: the defeated side has no right to demand the return of certain territories.

From an article by a Japanese professor:

The new Japanese prime minister intends to continue the political line of his predecessor Shinzo Abe in relations with Russia. And the situation with a possible change of the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry in terms of updating the negotiations on the transfer of northern territories (the Japanese designation of the Russian South Kuriles - note "VO") could become one of the options for the prime minister, the first test attempt.

Nagoshi talks about "the possibility of taking back the two islands."

As you can see, the Japanese professor does not even remember that Russia adopted an amendment to the Constitution, which was initially positioned as a ban on the alienation of territories. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the wording of the amendment itself looks very vague, since it points to certain exceptions related to delimitation and demarcation of borders.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 2 November 2020 06: 51
    37
    Yes, how long can you discuss the "wet wishlist" yapov?
    The Kuriles are Russia! The curtain! There will be no continuation!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 2 November 2020 06: 58
      +9
      Japanese professor: Lavrov's possible resignation would help update the negotiations on the "northern territories"
      Today, 06: 46
      well, japan mother eat .. cho, stupid?
      1
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 2 November 2020 08: 51
        +6
        Quote: Dead Day
        cho, stupid?

        Well, apparently, either so, or stoned.
        Their ears are from a dead donkey. Can't wait
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 9 November 2020 16: 09
          0
          Just amazing! They seem to be literate and smart people (I have had occasion to communicate with several), but sometimes they are so naive, just like children! Well you have to guess to hope to get the "floating" islands if Putin or Lavrov leave !!! I think, nevertheless, that it is from hopelessness. THE LAST ghostly hope.
    2. FenH
      FenH 2 November 2020 07: 00
      +8
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Yes, how much can already be discussed "Wet wishlist" yapov?
      The Kuriles are Russia! The curtain! There will be no continuation!

      Possible castration of these dreamers, over time, would remove this question
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 November 2020 07: 15
        14
        Sharik from Prostokvashino, has long been answering “there is such an Indian dwelling - you are called fig!
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 2 November 2020 07: 51
          +3
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          figs you called!

          um ... in the word "fig" - three mistakes ... the word on "x" begins. (prompt)
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 2 November 2020 08: 33
          +6
          During this time, that the Japanese are rushing about with this idea, it would be better if they dumped new islands of sand and stones, since there is not enough territory. The example of the UAE is indicative. Expensive though, very .. but more realistic. They can't see smokes anyway.
          1. 41 REGION
            41 REGION 2 November 2020 13: 31
            +2
            Quote: Doccor18
            During this time that the Japanese are rushing about with this idea, it would be better for themselves new islands of sand and stones were poured

            Together with the islands, the adjacent territory is what Japan is interested in, it’s just two hundred miles to change. hi
    3. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 2 November 2020 07: 23
      +7
      They're masochists, watch some shows. So on this topic, they procrastinate and seemingly like to receive "bells" (in the form of refusals).
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 2 November 2020 08: 22
        +6
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Yes they are masochists

        Territorial disputes can be resolved for centuries. The Japanese hope that over time they will be able to push their interests not by washing, but by skating. On what they call the "Northern Territories," virtually all of Japan's political parties have developed a consensus. So each new prime minister, in order to keep himself in the chair, will try to push through this issue in one way or another. Regardless of how much he considers it feasible. Do not expect miracles, so will all subsequent leaders of Japan in the foreseeable future. The Ukrainian presidents will talk about the issue of Crimea's ownership in approximately the same way. Territorial disputes are obviously the most difficult and painful ones to resolve through diplomatic means. The loss of territory by all countries and peoples was considered a great shame. So far, nothing has changed in this regard.
        1. Volder
          Volder 2 November 2020 09: 22
          +2
          Quote: Hagen
          The loss of territory by all countries and peoples was considered a great shame.
          From 1990 to 2017, Russia lost many territories that it inherited after the collapse of the USSR - just within the framework of delimitation and demarcation.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 2 November 2020 13: 14
            +2
            Quote: Volder
            Quote: Hagen
            The loss of territory by all countries and peoples was considered a great shame.
            From 1990 to 2017, Russia lost many territories that it inherited after the collapse of the USSR - just within the framework of delimitation and demarcation.

            The entire era of the Foreign Ministry under Lavrov is endless concessions to "partners" and the surrender of foreign policy positions. Worse than him, only Kozyrev. Regarding the Kuriles, the issue should not be discussed at all. I don’t understand why the issue of the peace treaty was emphasized?
    4. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 2 November 2020 07: 52
      +7
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The Kuriles are Russia! The curtain! There will be no continuation!

      Professor! But he does not know the Constitution of the Russian Federation ...
      1. parma
        parma 2 November 2020 08: 31
        +8
        Quote: Vladimir61
        Quote: Hunter 2
        The Kuriles are Russia! The curtain! There will be no continuation!

        Professor! But he does not know the Constitution of the Russian Federation ...

        Have you read it yourself? And if you read, looked at all the words in the dictionary? ... the assignment of territories is possible, just controversial ones, within the framework of "clarifying" the boundaries ...
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 2 November 2020 19: 06
          +2
          Quote: parma
          Have you read it yourself? And if you read, looked at all the words in the dictionary? ... the assignment of territories is possible, just controversial ones, within the framework of "clarifying" the boundaries ...

          Imagine reading it! And if you have not read, but heard, I will explain. If we are talking about delimitation (this is the definition of conditions within the framework of an international agreement with a description), then all agreements with Japan in our country comply with international norms and laws. Back in 2018, a representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry said: - "since the end of World War II, the problem of a peace treaty has persisted. It is on it, and not on the issues of demarcation or delimitation, that negotiations are underway, and the first step towards resolving this problem should be Japan's recognition of the results of World War II in full, including Russian sovereignty over the southern Kuril Islands.". Pay attention 2018, there were no additions to the Constitution yet!
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 3 November 2020 13: 11
          +2
          Quote: parma
          And if you read all the words in the dictionary?

          And what is a disputed territory for Russia Kuril Islands? Here you give ...
          1. parma
            parma 4 November 2020 22: 43
            0
            Quote: DenZ
            Quote: parma
            And if you read all the words in the dictionary?

            And what is a disputed territory for Russia Kuril Islands? Here you give ...

            And you look at the definition of the disputed territories .. and the position of the Kremlin is a political and situational question, do you know how many territories have been cut off from us on disputed issues over the past 20 years?
      2. Clear
        Clear 2 November 2020 09: 40
        +5
        Quote: Vladimir61
        Quote: Hunter 2
        The Kuriles are Russia! The curtain! There will be no continuation!

        Professor! But he does not know the Constitution of the Russian Federation ...

        However - twoShnik ... yes
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 2 November 2020 19: 45
          +1
          But why?
          If he is a professor, then he probably knows his subject and maybe even a corresponding member, but in the issue of Russian territories he is (oh!) A crustacean (oh!)
          1. Clear
            Clear 2 November 2020 19: 58
            +4
            Quote: hydrox
            But why?
            If he is a professor, then he probably knows his subject and maybe even a corresponding member, but in the issue of Russian territories he is (oh!) A crustacean (oh!)

            To be honest, I browsed through the Internet and did not find request
            Japan Center for International Studies
            Maybe this is an analogue of the London "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights" (SOHR), which spreads fakes about the war in Syria and the actions of Damascus, working for Western grants. The state is one person, Abdulrahman is a Syrian Sunni who owns a clothing store. Fled to England, fearing a fourth prison term.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 3 November 2020 19: 36
              +1
              Do not waste your time: there are now ten of them in a communal office - yes, no one really trusts them, and if they use them, then not as an argument, but simply to create a certain mood in a dispute ("but we have grannies at the entrance there are so many gossip ... ")
    5. Clear
      Clear 2 November 2020 09: 19
      +7
      Japanese professor: Lavrov's possible resignation would help update the negotiations on the "northern territories"
      Who, about what, and lousy about the bath lol
    6. Voyager
      Voyager 2 November 2020 11: 01
      +2
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Yes, how long can you discuss the "wet wishlist" yapov?
      The Kuriles are Russia! The curtain! There will be no continuation!

      Yes, they themselves are to blame. There was nothing to flirt with and tease the donkey with a carrot.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 2 November 2020 19: 48
        0
        Well, suppose the Yankees were holding a carrot in their hands, but no one expected that the Yappas would become such stupid donkeys.
    7. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 2 November 2020 11: 05
      0
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Yes, how long can you discuss the "wet wishlist" yapov?
      The Kuriles are Russia! The curtain! There will be no continuation!
      As long as there is Russia, everything is true. But the Japanese are looking forward to the future. And there are grounds for such calculations, alas.
      1. Machnamh
        Machnamh 2 November 2020 16: 02
        0
        And what about the Japanese? Today? Compared to the RF? I mean a big plus? Japan is not what it was 30 or 40 years ago. There is South Korea, and Taiwan, and Malaysia ... Not to mention the PRC. And no worse. They are not unique, irreplaceable. Demographics ?? Population decline. Perhaps even more than in the Russian Federation. You can take a look here https://countrymeters.info/ru/World. The same is the aging of the nation. Problems of all kinds of numerous outcasts mentally crippled (all sorts of hikikomori and other numerous insane maniacs). And it's not a plus for the Japanese that 100% live on seismically active islands and the tsunami often rolls over. Fukushima alone is worth something. And China and Koreas, to put it mildly, are not friends at all. So they have no bonuses in comparison with Russia.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 2 November 2020 16: 10
          +1
          What are you talking about? The Japanese want to profit from the territory. For this, they themselves do not want to fight. So they looked around and decided - others will fight with Russia. So we will declare our claims and will wait. Let's help the enemies of Russia a little when they rush to tear it up. And we will select the islands when the moment comes.
          They need the islands, but not too badly, you can wait at least how long. Cooperation with Russia ... Who needs it? What for? Resources can be purchased without cooperation. The Japanese have a military component from the United States, ours is not necessary. In civilian industries, we are an extremely poorly managed structure in which thieves and hereditary careerists squander trillions to assert their power over resources. Who needs it? What for? To want to cooperate with Russia in our current situation, one must be a complete idiot, and the Japanese have a bit of intelligence.
          The Japanese have a potential advantage - they are an important part of our enemies. So they are waiting.
          1. Machnamh
            Machnamh 2 November 2020 16: 23
            +1
            I mean that Japan expects to starve out. They think ---- Russia is now in a dire situation, but not to such an extent as to take the islands just now. But in forty years it will be just right. Let's just reach out and raise it calmly. So I scribbled on top to show that they do not have any advantages there. They are also far from a fountain. And another big question is who will bend first --- Russia or Japan.
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 2 November 2020 16: 27
              0
              And I replied that the Japanese simply bet on the destruction of Russia, its belittling or complete destruction, which will be carried out by larger forces than themselves. Who is the first is not the question. It's like buying a piece of suburban US land. If the federal highway passes along it, you can climb well. If not - the investment is small for a serious investor, you can ignore it. I understood you for the first time, sorry for the rhetorical question at the beginning of the post. Somehow I got carried away a little)
          2. DenZ
            DenZ 3 November 2020 13: 14
            0
            Quote: Mikhail3
            The Japanese have a potential advantage - they are an important part of our enemies. So they are waiting.

            Let them wait. As His Serene Highness said "How not to catch a cold at your funeral."
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 5 November 2020 09: 36
              0
              Does not drip over them. They are not threatened by their position. They can sit on the priest evenly for a thousand years.
  2. Russobel
    Russobel 2 November 2020 07: 01
    13
    Japan will always, like Ukraine, Crimea will want the Kuril Islands, always!
    So you just have to ignore all of them I want ...
    That's it, hara-kiri, japanese mother!
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      1. Mouse
        Mouse 2 November 2020 09: 25
        +4
        Clear, saint! love
        Break off their teeth! yes
        1. Clear
          Clear 2 November 2020 09: 30
          +4
          Quote: Mouse
          Clear, saint! love
          Break off their teeth! yes

          Really winked they had time for a claim. Why were they silent? request
          Now, there was a good moment

          1. Terenin
            Terenin 2 November 2020 09: 37
            +7
            Quote: Clear
            Quote: Mouse
            Clear, saint! love
            Break off their teeth! yes

            Really winked they had time for a claim. Why were they silent? request
            Now, there was a good moment


            hi
            Yes, it was still possible at that moment to enroll in the USSR in the form of the Japanese region yes
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  5. Dimy4
    Dimy4 2 November 2020 07: 15
    0
    It is also necessary to get Kozyrev out of the political grave or to concoct his analogue.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 November 2020 07: 20
    +8
    Sooner or later S.V. Lavrov will leave his post. But this will not change Russia's foreign policy - not only one person in our state makes this policy. And therefore, the Ipenites cannot see the Kuriles as their ears without a mirror. laughing
    1. Clear
      Clear 2 November 2020 09: 26
      +7
      Quote: aszzz888
      And therefore, the Ipenites cannot see the Kuriles as their ears without a mirror.

      We are not sorry, let them watch.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 2 November 2020 09: 28
        +2
        Clear (Clear)
        Today, 09: 26
        NEW

        +1
        Quote: aszzz888
        And therefore, the Ipenites cannot see the Kuriles as their ears without a mirror.

        We are not sorry, let them watch.
        And preferably through binoculars from the other side. wink
  7. stalki
    stalki 2 November 2020 07: 31
    +7
    let them puff laughing
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 2 November 2020 07: 34
    +6
    Marvelous are thy works, O Lord! The defeated aggressor is trying to demand something from the winner, "... bullshit ..." however! As the well-known Ostap Bender said: "... you will get ears from a dead donkey ..."!
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 November 2020 07: 44
    +5
    Kenro Nagoshi personally for you, we have adopted an amendment to the Constitution, according to which you, Japona Yama, have only one honorary right, having arrived to the north of Hokaido and facing Kunashir, make yourself a hara-kiri, well, if you are weak hara-kiri, you can cut off your coca ... good
    1. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 2 November 2020 09: 05
      +6
      By the way, Shinzo Abe at his father's grave vowed to return the Kuriles. It didn’t grow together ... But I don’t hear that he did seppuku. Shalabolka, however ...
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 2 November 2020 09: 12
        +2
        The Japanese have degenerated, maybe it's for the best. hi
    2. Clear
      Clear 2 November 2020 09: 43
      +6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      facing Kunashir, make yourself hara-kiri, well, if you are weak hara-kiri, you can cut off your coca.

      I know that the sachet is not a jar for collecting tests, but a decanter for sake, but I did not know what else they have HaraKoki lol
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 2 November 2020 09: 50
        +2
        The girls at school in the late 70s called the part of the male genital organ that way, so the yapas fell behind. They'll have to catch up! repeat
        1. Clear
          Clear 2 November 2020 09: 51
          +5
          Quote: tralflot1832
          The girls at school in the late 70s called the part of the male genital organ that way, so the yapas fell behind. They'll have to catch up! repeat

          Learn, it's never too late yes
  10. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 2 November 2020 07: 59
    -12 qualifying.
    Kuriles, the Arctic and the Navy's ukro, favorite topics of the hurray-patriotic public
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 2 November 2020 08: 53
      0
      Uh-huh, the Japanese professor writes about this, and the topics are favorite among our public. How are you in the morning, without getting enough sleep immediately to sketch.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 2 November 2020 09: 53
        -3
        Quote: Mitroha
        Uh-huh, the Japanese professor writes about this, and the topics are favorite among our public.
        Writes for VO readers, apparently
        Quote: Mitroha
        How are you in the morning, without getting enough sleep immediately to sketch.

        I got up two hours ago. And in fact, what do you care? I express my opinion, but the fact that someone is bombing from this is not my problem hi
  11. steelmaker
    steelmaker 2 November 2020 08: 01
    -2
    "" Sergei Lavrov's request to the head of state to release him from his post "
    Lavrov should not be released, but dismissed! Why did Putin himself raise the issue of the Kuril Islands? Out of the blue, they gave hope to the Japanese with their talks! And Lavrov in the front ranks began to explain under what conditions the islands would be handed over! Under Lavrov, they missed everything and did not solve a single problem. And Ukraine and Armenia are on Lavrov's conscience! And Armenia is generally a failure of diplomats! How so? There is a military base and diplomats, but the country is Russophobic? Our Foreign Ministry needs to learn from the Americans how diplomats should work! Lavrova out !!
    1. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 2 November 2020 09: 09
      +3
      And Armenia is generally a failure of diplomats! How so? There is a military base and diplomats, but the country is Russophobic?

      Those. is our Foreign Ministry to blame for the Yerevan Maidan? But the organization of Maidans and Counter-Maidans is not the competence of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but of the special services. I could understand if you blamed the SVR for this.
      1. steelmaker
        steelmaker 2 November 2020 09: 51
        +2
        This is how scouts always work under the "roof" of the Foreign Ministry. The Americans understand this, but you and Lavrov don't? Therefore, the ambassadors to Ukraine are Chernomyrdin and Zurabov. "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always."
        "What is the pop, and such is the arrival!"
        1. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 2 November 2020 10: 00
          +1
          This is how scouts always work under the "roof" of the Foreign Ministry.

          That's right, the Foreign Ministry is primarily a roof for intelligence. And Maidans are counter-Maidans, they are not even intelligence, but special operations.
    2. Simon
      Simon 2 November 2020 09: 30
      0
      And what is it to learn diplomacy from the Americans? Their diplomacy is all about bombs and missiles! An example for you is Yugoslavia.
      1. steelmaker
        steelmaker 2 November 2020 09: 55
        0
        And how did the Americans bomb Ukraine and Armenia, that they became Russophobic states? And our Lavrov can only talk. Can't decide anything or thinks for two weeks.
  12. Tugarin
    Tugarin 2 November 2020 08: 02
    21
    information on the self-isolation of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is being discussed

    Japan is already interfering in the internal politics of the Russian Federation.
  13. Egoza
    Egoza 2 November 2020 08: 08
    +5
    The Japanese professor has strange dreams. And if even "worse" comes to Lavrov's place? "Mister NO", as in the USSR? What will you sing then? "Oh, where is Lavrov?
  14. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 November 2020 08: 09
    +3
    They say the Japanese are smart, the Japanese are smart. Probably smart, but such fools! You have your own island and live there, but don't open your mouth to strangers. Choke!
  15. K-50
    K-50 2 November 2020 08: 25
    +6
    Japanese professor: Lavrov's possible resignation would help update the negotiations on the "northern territories"

    And for me, it is Lavrov's presence at the post of Foreign Minister is much more important than the existence of the Yap Islands in general !!! am am
    Will you still tell us who and where to put our ministers?
    Try to reach the Japanese trench at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean !!! am angry
  16. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 2 November 2020 08: 38
    +4
    I apologize for the political incorrectness - he was eating WHAT sake?
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 November 2020 08: 56
      +6
      Doesn't seem to be eating ...
      1. Clear
        Clear 2 November 2020 09: 48
        +5
        Quote: cniza
        Doesn't seem to be eating ...

        And drank too hot.
        1. cniza
          cniza 2 November 2020 10: 14
          +3
          Didn't find a balance between quantity and temperature. yes
  17. cniza
    cniza 2 November 2020 08: 56
    +4
    that the new Japanese leadership "expects that with the change of the head of the Foreign Ministry, negotiations on the islands could get off the ground."


    Dream, but something tells me that the new leadership, and it will be for natural reasons, will finally close this issue and send all Japanese to read our constitution ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 2 November 2020 09: 47
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      that the new Japanese leadership "expects that with the change of the head of the Foreign Ministry, negotiations on the islands could get off the ground."


      Dream, but something tells me that the new leadership, and it will be for natural reasons, will finally close this issue and send all Japanese to read our constitution ...

      Victor hi everything is clear, except for the new leadership winked
      1. cniza
        cniza 2 November 2020 10: 10
        +3
        Hello ! hi
        Nothing lasts forever under the moon ... for natural reasons.
  18. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 2 November 2020 09: 01
    +2
    Japanese professor: Lavrov's possible resignation would help update the negotiations on the "northern territories"

    Who about what, and lousy about the bath!
  19. ALARI
    ALARI 2 November 2020 09: 09
    0
    We all know how to threaten and show Kuzka's mother this, but then: Please, be understanding, and bam demarcation of borders. And what are we going to talk about?
  20. dsdelta
    dsdelta 2 November 2020 09: 28
    0
    Lavrov's possible resignation would help to update, then something else. In my opinion, the Japanese are very self-perceived people. They can assure themselves of anything, even absolutely incredible things. ))
  21. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 November 2020 10: 00
    0
    Lavrov's possible resignation would help update the negotiations on the "northern territories"
    And the abolition of Japan as a state completely removed this problem.
  22. Maki maki
    Maki maki 2 November 2020 10: 07
    16
    Again they brought a hurdy-gurdy ... It is necessary to expose counter claims am
  23. fif21
    fif21 2 November 2020 10: 18
    -1
    So the quick-eyed guy didn't guess! wassat Lavrov, with his failures in protecting Russia's interests, is long overdue for retirement. But the Japanese will not get the islands. The Foreign Ministry has long been demanding optimization and reforming. hi
  24. BAI
    BAI 2 November 2020 10: 24
    0
    Japan's new leadership "expects that with the change of foreign minister, negotiations on the islands could get off the ground."

    And the new leadership of Japan itself does not want to get off the ground?
  25. iouris
    iouris 2 November 2020 10: 49
    -1
    The Japanese professor supported Lavrov. Japan also sponsors both the Turkish offensive outside and the riots inside. Strategy 1904 ... 1917. Nothing new.
  26. times
    times 2 November 2020 10: 50
    16
    Lavrov's possible resignation would not have affected anything.
  27. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 2 November 2020 11: 08
    0
    Looks like Sergey Viktorovich annoyed them well.)
  28. nonsense
    nonsense 2 November 2020 11: 09
    0
    :) The Japanese will continue to raise the issue of the problem of the "northern territories" until Russia begins to raise the issue of the problem in response. "southern territories "! And why, it is quite logical to assume that the island of Hokkaido is a continuation of the Russian Sakhalin and the Kuril ridge and was inhabited until the 18th century NOT by the Japanese but by the Ainu, whom the Japanese zanocidal. Let them return it to Russia!
  29. Sibguest
    Sibguest 2 November 2020 11: 18
    0
    I respect perseverance in achieving good goals.
    But for the Japanese, in an effort to get the impossible (OUR islands), this is already a hard-headedness.
    I propose: to place on the island closest to the territory of Poko-Japan (O. Signal) VERY ... no - VERY, VERY powerful radio station and "please" the Japanese with a 24-hour marathon (without stopping) with the same song "Three Tanskyists" ("... and the samurai flew to the ground ...").
    To achieve a greater effect of effect (anger, fucking, etc.), I suggest translating the song into Japanese.
    Point.
  30. bar
    bar 2 November 2020 11: 23
    +1
    the defeated side has no right to demand the return of certain territories.

    Remarkable position good
    But these one-celled brothers in mind continue to drill their own, without even bothering to re-read our constitution.
  31. hydroy
    hydroy 2 November 2020 12: 39
    0
    It seems that it is coming)
    However, things have become even more serious now. Just a couple of days ago, Shinzo Abe announced that he intends to amend the country's constitution. And they will touch exactly the peaceful article of the military code - it will simply be deleted from the current ones.
    After making such changes, Japan will be able to uncontrollably build up its military potential and adopt offensive equipment of colossal power. It is noteworthy that the Japanese have developed developments for a long time - it is enough for them to start production in order to become stronger than any European state in just a month.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 November 2020 14: 01
      0
      Quote: hydroy
      However, things have become even more serious now. Just a couple of days ago, Shinzo Abe announced that he intends to amend the country's constitution. And they will touch exactly the peaceful article of the military code - it will simply be deleted from the current ones.

      And she practically does not work anyway - thanks to the efforts of Shinzo Abe. It was his government that six years ago began to interpret the Constitution, inventing "collective self-defense", according to which the Self-Defense Forces can be used not only to defend Japan itself, but also Japan's allies. Five years ago, the Japanese Parliament approved the use of the Self-Defense Forces outside of Japan. And three years ago, Shinzo Abe decided that no later than 2020, Article 9 should be completely rewritten, fixing the status of the Japan Self-Defense Forces in the Constitution.
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 2 November 2020 14: 15
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        The revival of the Japanese army, I wonder)
  32. hydroy
    hydroy 2 November 2020 12: 40
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    According to experts, such a decision could significantly upset the balance of power in the world. Moreover, such an aggressive state cannot build up its strength "just like that" and it definitely has a clear goal. Now it seems obvious - the annexation of the Kuril Islands.

    Should you be afraid? It is unlikely that Japan will be able to resist such a giant as Russia. Nevertheless, it should be borne in mind that it is actively supported by the United States and other Western countries. Therefore, the outcome can be anything. We can only hope that the Japanese government is trying in this way only to put pressure on Russia.
    1. Darkesstcat
      Darkesstcat 2 November 2020 16: 07
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      Giant in what? Economically they are stronger, and the same in terms of population. One difference is in nuclear weapons and the size of the territories.
  33. hydroy
    hydroy 2 November 2020 12: 43
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    Well, in general, in the event of Japanese aggression, the Kuril Islands will not withstand the first days of the war! And even Sakhalin may be taken away in the first days and the continental army will have to smoke them from the islands again! And don't forget 1905! Then the miracle did not happen and technologically advanced Japan defeated our fleet ...
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 2 November 2020 16: 59
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      At one time on this forum the opinion was actively expressed that the Ukrainian boats of project 58150 are better armed than our 21980. And our boats will not be able to compete with them on equal terms. This opinion was quite logical. I said then that such a battle will not happen. Because military conflict is not a kind of martial arts. And these armored boats will not be dealt with using similar boats. And with the help of the technology that negates all the advantages of Ukrainian floating facilities. This has been confirmed in practice.
      Returning to the Kuril Islands. I strongly doubt the possibility of the second Tsushima battle. And I think that events can develop a little differently than you see. In my opinion, when capturing the islands, ours will thoroughly process them with tactical nuclear charges.
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 2 November 2020 17: 00
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        Nuclear charges - death to all living things? Sakhalin gas source, will you run there in spacesuits?
        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 2 November 2020 17: 09
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          Exactly. Moreover, we have gas not only in Sakhalin. How can we do without Sakhalin gas. Yes, projects "Sakhalin" 1 and 2, 700 km from Japanese territory. So it may not reach them.
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 2 November 2020 17: 10
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            How does it fail? Do you think the Japanese will confine themselves to the Kuriles? do not be naive ... Then they will trample, they already ruled Sakhalin, so the appetite comes with eating
            1. Servisinzhener
              Servisinzhener 2 November 2020 17: 25
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              I believe that this Japanese adventure will end after a tactical nuclear strike on the landing force.
      2. hydroy
        hydroy 2 November 2020 17: 04
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        I looked about the units in the Kuril Islands, I doubt that they will cope with the advancing Japanese units. Deshman T-34 and ISs dug in like shock points, already rusty, modern tanks like shock ones as well? Do you see modern warfare? This is a UAV with attack missiles, quite capable of several strikes against tanks. Moreover, there is no echeloned air defense defense on the islands (
  34. Gunther
    Gunther 2 November 2020 13: 17
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    As you can see, the Japanese professor does not even remember that Russia adopted an amendment to the Constitution, which was initially positioned as a ban on the alienation of territories. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the wording of the amendment itself looks very vague, since it points to certain exceptions related to delimitation and demarcation of borders.

    The Japanese professor may just remember the muddy formulations associated with the delimitation and demarcation of Russia's borders. what
  35. ccsr
    ccsr 2 November 2020 13: 42
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    Professor, employee of the Japanese Center for International Studies, Mr. Nagoshi, guided by unconfirmed rumors, writes that Sergei Lavrov may soon resign from the post of head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

    And this resignation may well happen if Lavrov is elected president of Russia, because he is the most worthy candidate from among Putin's entourage and is the most suitable for this position. I would take his election as president as another God's mercy to our long-suffering country, even though he is not a believer.
  36. Machnamh
    Machnamh 2 November 2020 15: 44
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    Since they climbed to the mainland (climbed from the islands) since the 16th century, they climbed with a sword and cut off the heads and noses of the owners of the land there, and threw them into the furnaces of paravozi instead of firewood, they do not need the islands. There are enough of those that are available.
  37. NF68
    NF68 2 November 2020 17: 02
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    He rolled his lip, however. Did autumn also affect this professor?
  38. Dmitry Kapustin
    Dmitry Kapustin 2 November 2020 17: 33
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    Does Lavrov really interfere with "licking the Japanese ass."
  39. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 2 November 2020 17: 50
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    They need not only the islands, but also what is beneath them. I must say firmly: no islands. We can only talk about Hokkaido. It is strange that the Foreign Ministry does not raise the issue of returning 200 tons of gold and reparations for the occupation of 1918-1920. In addition, for bacteriological weapons such as tick-borne encephalitis. You can cheat the Japanese a lot ...
  40. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 2 November 2020 19: 24
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    All that needs to be done is to declare officially, down to the level of the president, that the issue of the Kuril Islands is closed and is no longer discussed, as well as the issue of a peace treaty with these ..
  41. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 3 November 2020 10: 40
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    So these negotiations are more than actualized - SHISH TO YOU, NOT THE NORTHERN TERRITORIES !!! It's high time to stop dreaming!