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There are no fighters, but there will be air defense systems: Lithuania received the Norwegian NASAMS air defense system

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Tests in Scandinavia



The Lithuanian Armed Forces have officially received the NASAMS anti-aircraft system from Kongsberg. This happened after a series of tests.

The document on the adoption of the new air defense system was signed on October 30, 2020. Lithuania has become the official operator of the air defense system, classified worldwide as a short or medium range system, depending on the specific type of missile used - AMRAAM or AMRAAM-ER.

The NASAMS-3 air defense system was acquired by Vilnius in October 2017. Now the complexes have been received officially. The system uses American AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles and MPQ-64 Sentinel radar. In 2018, the Lithuanian military department ordered additional missiles.

It is worth noting that NASAMS-3 is the latest generation of NASAMS currently used exclusively by the Norwegian Armed Forces. Thus, the Lithuanian army became the second in the world after the Norwegian army to have this air defense system.

The cost of the purchased equipment for two air defense batteries, which will be part of a separate air defense battalion of the Lithuanian Air Force, will amount to about 110 million euros. This amount also includes training fees for operators and maintenance personnel.

Recall that the NASAMS short- or medium-range air defense system can hit targets within a radius of about 25 km with AMRAAM missiles and within a radius of more than 40 km with AMRAAM-ER missiles. The system is produced by Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace, the largest Norwegian defense company, in collaboration with US defense giant Raytheon. The latter is responsible for radars and missiles from the AMRAAM family.

Typically a NASAMS battery consists of three launchers. The launcher is connected to the control system and can be located up to 25 km from it. In addition to AMRAAM / AMRAAM-ER missiles, the Norwegian air defense system can also use the even lighter IRIS-T SLS and AIM-9X missiles.


As the Lithuanian Defense Minister Raimundas Karoblis emphasized, the most important result of owning its own air defense system is the country's protected airspace. This will allow, according to the minister, to more effectively defend national interests and expand the presence of allied forces in the region.

It is difficult to disagree with Karoblis's words, given that Lithuania previously possessed only very short-range air defense systems in the form of guns and MANPADS systems, including the Polish Gromów, purchased after 2014. However, even the presence of more powerful air defense systems will not be able to turn Lithuania into an independent player in the military sphere. In a confrontation with any neighbor, be it Russia or Belarus, Lithuania will be doomed to defeat.

Interesting in this vein is the opinion of the readers of the Polish edition of Defense24. Apparently, they are very skeptical about the acquisition of their eastern neighbor.

Our patriots will overpay even after 10 years,

- writes one of the commentators, obviously hinting at a round sum that Lithuania had to pay for the batteries of the Norwegian air defense system.

It would be better for us if they chose the Camm system from the British. They offered us a complete polonization of the system, especially taking into account the much needed missile technology,

- says someone with the nickname "from Gliwice".

Another commentator laughed at the assertion of the author of the article in the Polish edition about the absence of combat aircraft in the Lithuanian Air Force. Although this is actually the case: according to open sources, the Lithuanian aviation possesses only 2 training and 5 transport aircraft and 6 multi-purpose helicopters. There are no fighters, but there will be anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM), albeit foreign ones, with dubious effectiveness.

By the way, this is also why it is so important for Lithuania to have at least some semblance of modern air defense systems. One cannot stand against Russia, but the appearance of airspace security is being created.
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  1. Trojan_wolf
    Trojan_wolf 1 November 2020 17: 26
    -2
    Formidable Lithuanian army.
    1. Russobel
      Russobel 1 November 2020 18: 21
      -1
      Formidable Lithuanian army.

      Ant kalno mūrai - joja lietuviai,
      Ant kalno mūrai - joja lietuviai,
      Joja, joja lietuvaičiai

      What rockets ?! No, only on horseback, only on horseback ...
    2. iouris
      iouris 1 November 2020 22: 26
      +1
      It is a sin to laugh ... People have grief - they had to buy the visibility of air defense. By the way, why not the USA?
      1. Toucan
        Toucan 2 November 2020 02: 22
        +1
        This air defense system is produced jointly by Norway and the United States. The missiles in it are American.
        1. d4rkmesa
          d4rkmesa 3 November 2020 13: 34
          0
          Well, this is understandable, but the meaning is still not clear. To buy such a very improvised weapon for money. It was easier to buy HIMARS - the same plus a tactical strike complex. And so, well, I do not mind, let them buy. laughing
    3. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 2 November 2020 00: 08
      +2
      Formidable Lithuanian army.


      Considering that she is in NATO, it is indeed formidable.
  2. Generator Systems
    Generator Systems 1 November 2020 17: 38
    +1
    Well, try is not torture as they say smile
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 2 November 2020 05: 33
      +1
      poor investment ... zero exhaust.
  3. deniso
    deniso 1 November 2020 17: 39
    +1
    Who is this against? Air Force of Belarus?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 1 November 2020 19: 04
      +1
      At least.
      In general, it turns out that their ground air defense component is more powerful than the American one.
      MANPADS - "Stingers" and "Thunders"
      Heavy MANPADS RBS-70
      And now- NASAMS

      It is not enough, of course, for three brigades, but the Lithuanians, apparently, cannot afford more.
  4. Cananecat
    Cananecat 1 November 2020 17: 40
    11
    They take away such garbage from the entrance ...
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 1 November 2020 17: 57
      11
      Quote: Canecat
      They take away such garbage from the entrance ...

      yes
      Only on a different platform.
    2. Taltek
      Taltek 2 November 2020 16: 30
      0
      I also immediately noticed this similarity. Very similar to a garbage truck. good
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. danske75
      danske75 2 November 2020 19: 05
      0
      This photo does not correspond to the reality. Here is the Lithuanian version.
      ... the photo is not displayed.
      https://www.armyrecognition.com/june_2020_news_defense_global_security_army_industry/lithuania_takes_delivery_of_nasams_norwegian_air_defense_missile_system.html
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 1 November 2020 17: 42
    +4
    They bought it, okay, but how will it help them to defend their national interests? The question is, of course, interesting.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 1 November 2020 19: 17
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Bought and okay, but how will it help them to defend their national interests
      But no way,
      but the appearance of airspace security is created

      In fact, the Lithuanians were once again thrown into money: these systems will be enough to create the illusion of covering the regional center for controlling the Baltic airspace, in Zoknyai, where fighters are also. This center pumps data from long-range radars further west. With a big boil, this entire economy will be multiplied by a count of times and somewhere in Karup they will turn on a stopwatch ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 November 2020 19: 35
        +2
        About the fact that they did not have air defense, and they do not, there is no need to discuss this.
        It’s just interesting who their politicians want to convince that they’re not getting air defense and what will help them ??? Who is listening, actually?
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 1 November 2020 20: 35
          +2
          Since you and me no trust, we are Asians with slanting eyes, then I will refer to the opinion of "our European" partners, God forbid, of course.
          Quote: pytar
          - if you are a member of some union, you have obligations, otherwise you cannot count on help.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 November 2020 21: 44
            +1
            It is also true, they have someone to listen to, someone to trust ...
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 1 November 2020 21: 49
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              It is also true, they have someone to listen to, someone to trust ...

              If you will allow me to paraphrase - they have whose commands to execute wink
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 1 November 2020 22: 05
                0
                So it really will be more accurate.
        2. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 2 November 2020 00: 12
          -1
          The Georgians also thought that there was no air defense and lost 7 planes.

          There is no need to consider the Lithuanian army separately, you consider it as a part of NATO, and NATO is many times superior to us in many respects, in almost all.
          1. Grits
            Grits 2 November 2020 03: 57
            0
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            and NATO is many times superior to us in many respects, practically in all.

            True, with regard to air defense, I doubt your statements.
            By the way, it would be interesting to know, what is the given system in comparison with our similar ones? For example, with "Buk" or S-350. Are there anti-aircraft gunners?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 2 November 2020 15: 52
              0
              Quote: Gritsa
              Are there anti-aircraft gunners?

              As part of a large, general air defense, it would be quite adequate, BUT, this is NATO, and not something national.
              As an independent combat air defense unit ... the same as ours of a similar class. Protect one object, but not all at once!
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 2 November 2020 15: 46
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            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            There is no need to consider the Lithuanian army separately,

            Did you discuss what issue? How and how the purchase of the air defense complex will help, inspire, provide something there, in terms of state independence ...
  6. fn34440
    fn34440 1 November 2020 17: 46
    +2
    Lithuanian shamans from the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania have done an effective, therapeutic bloodletting to the dying country's meager state budget.
    1. frruc
      frruc 1 November 2020 18: 13
      +1
      Now you need to appoint the commander-in-chief of Lithuanian air defense.
  7. Sergey39
    Sergey39 1 November 2020 17: 59
    +1
    Whom are they going to shoot down with these air defense systems? Who might think of attacking Lithuania?
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 1 November 2020 19: 02
      -2
      Quote: Sergey39
      Whom are they going to shoot down with these air defense systems? Who might think of attacking Lithuania?

      Well, apparently the aircraft of the VTA VKS RF transferring B, VT and l / s to Kaliningrad ...
      I think the air defense system of medium and small action is just the beginning of the creation of a NATO zonal air defense system in the Baltic states and an AWACS aircraft constantly on duty in the skies over the Baltic states ...
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 1 November 2020 19: 36
        +2
        The fact is that all of the above is transferred in peacetime. The Kaliningrad region is fully charged. They cannot use the SAM. The local war between the Kaliningrad region and Lithuania is a delusion of the Lithuanian politicians, and in a global war everything will happen quickly and these air defense systems will be destroyed before they are used.
  8. Alien From
    Alien From 1 November 2020 18: 03
    +1
    They need to understand that they are just pads.
  9. pereselenec
    pereselenec 1 November 2020 18: 36
    +7
    It is difficult to understand the VO commentators. When it appears that some small country like Bulgaria, Switzerland or the Czech Republic is buying new fighters, half of the comments consist of screeching, what, they say, why do they need fighters so small? With whom are you going to swarm? Who are they buying against?
    When an article appears that a small country does NOT buy new fighters, then half of the comments consist of drinking buzz that suckers don't even have fighters. How to please you? request
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 1 November 2020 19: 23
      +1
      Quote: pereselenec
      article that a small country does NOT buy new fighters

      In fairness, the Lithuanians had acquired L-39za, not a fighter, but at least they did not lose their skills. Now they use C-27 Spartan transporters and Dolphin helicopters, smoothly throwing off old Soviet equipment.
      1. danske75
        danske75 2 November 2020 19: 16
        +1
        You are not quite right:
        there is one L-39 and they fly on it, there are also 3 L-39s rented, they also fly.
        Mi-8 turntables fly and will fly for several more years until they are replaced by Black Hawks.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 2 November 2020 19: 21
          +1
          Probably so, I do not follow closely. They go to the Italians to use the Spartana simulator. Dolphin seems to be oriented towards MSS. Developing slowly and certainly better than neighbors. How the 39th drove was a witness.
    2. Terrible GMO
      Terrible GMO 2 November 2020 01: 02
      0
      Quote: pereselenec
      How to please you?

      More kvass patriotism, unparalleled products (you can on paper) and something about the US national debt and the collapse of the dollar.
  10. Kerensky
    Kerensky 1 November 2020 18: 39
    0
    currently used exclusively by the Norwegian Armed Forces.

    Why is that? And you have a look at the map - continuous fjords! On that theater, wow, what its specificity!
  11. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 1 November 2020 18: 50
    -4
    There are no fighters, but there will be air defense systems:
    In principle, it is logical. But .... Our tanks and here SAM what request Probably Lithuania will give away Peter's money with interest, together with a yushka. request
    1. north 2
      north 2 1 November 2020 21: 05
      0
      you need to know the history. Peter paid the Swedes for territories in present-day Estonia and Latvia, not for territories in today's Lithuania.
  12. Avior
    Avior 1 November 2020 19: 32
    +2
    albeit foreign ones - with dubious effectiveness.

    and in what way is the dubious effectiveness manifested?
    Missiles with active seeker, tested in combat use in the air-to-air version, are quite a decent radar.
    Quite good air defense systems.
  13. Arnaut
    Arnaut 1 November 2020 20: 00
    -8
    Thanks to these crackers, NATO ichtamnet will be able to shoot down Russian aircraft in the area of ​​the Lithuanian border at any altitude and in any quantity.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 1 November 2020 22: 19
      0
      Wow !!! Wow !!! The Lithuanians have been given weapons for some time, and even a real one. The main thing now is that the Lithuanians do not become proud to full pants with joy on a universal scale. fellow Surely, with the money of Lithuania, systems were purchased, at the control panels of which obviously non-Lithuanian military will sit. They threw Lithuanians on the grandmothers once again. Paid for NATO air defense. Molodtsy. Great mission of Lithuania accomplished.
      in the area of ​​the Lithuanian border at any altitude and in any quantity.

      I especially liked about "any quantity". So it will be. From one installation to shoot down a thousand planes at once. Would you go to do the lessons.
      1. Arnaut
        Arnaut 1 November 2020 22: 30
        -3
        At the right time (at the right moment for the West), the British / Spanish / Portuguese or whatever they rotate down to shoot down a Russian plane that was flying near Lithuania. For political reasons, the governments of Great Britain / Spain / Portugal do not want to take responsibility in the early days of the conflict. Therefore, they will say that the Lithuanians were shot down. And the fact that the plane was flying at 10000 meters and 50 km from the launch site will not be interesting to anyone. Does Lithuania have air defense? There is. It means that it shot down the plane of the aggressor, who offends a small and fluffy NATO member.
        Russia will strike - will receive a response from NATO.
        It gets lost, lets it on the brakes, goes to courts - there is no chance of winning.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 1 November 2020 22: 48
          +1
          It means that it shot down the plane of the aggressor, who offends a small and fluffy NATO member.

          Already, you are a dreamer, you should write books.
          Russia will strike - will receive a response from NATO.

          NATO will strike - will receive a response from Russia. After which NATO quote

          It gets lost, lets it on the brakes, goes to courts - there is no chance of winning.
          Here are the goodies. good Nefig was a muddy topic to stir up.
        2. d4rkmesa
          d4rkmesa 3 November 2020 13: 29
          0
          You're the new Tom Clancy!
    2. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa 3 November 2020 13: 28
      0
      Not so fast. From "any" amount, Lithuania will go bankrupt, for ARGSN. In general, the idea of ​​this air defense system is somewhat blunt - with the same success, the Americans launched their AMRAAMs with MLRS. And the question is, why do we need norgi for this? Would have bought HIMARS from the Americans, but for some reason, the Samogitians are not very smart.
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 1 November 2020 20: 09
    0
    As I understand it, again on credit, or what items in the budget have they refused?
    The head of the board of the Central Bank said that last quarter Lithuania was in the worst economic situation since the 2009 crisis.
    In the previous quarter, the Lithuanian economy found itself in a "deep hole", said the head of the Board of the Bank of Lithuania Vitas Vasiliauskas.
    1. danske75
      danske75 2 November 2020 19: 18
      0
      Military budget-google, will help :)
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 2 November 2020 19: 37
        0
        Quote: danske75
        Military budget-google, will help :)

        Why google there?
        On October 14, the Lithuanian government approved the draft budget for 2021 with a deficit of 5% of the planned GDP. Budget revenues next year are planned at € 11,4 billion, expenditures - € 15,5 billion. The deficit should amount to € 4,1 billion. By the end of this year, the budget deficit is planned at 2,8% of GDP. In fact, it can grow to 8,8% of GDP, said the head of the Ministry of Finance of Lithuania Vilius Shapoka.
        Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/10/16/voennyy-byudzhet-litvy-v-2021-godu-prevysit-2-vvp

        There is a catastrophe with a budget deficit of 5% hahaha can be easily calculated, but taking money out of taxpayers' pockets for defense (it is not clear from whom the truth is) is sacred!
  15. times
    times 1 November 2020 20: 33
    17
    The owner is a master. Let them buy if they need
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 November 2020 20: 54
    0
    Well, now that's it! Sleep well, free Lithuanian. Free. winked The thief will not leak from the sky. laughing I wonder who warmed up the playful hands of the generals or the bigwigs from the government?
  17. north 2
    north 2 1 November 2020 21: 00
    -4
    You probably know that a few years ago in Lithuania there was a scandal called Golden Spoons-Aukso Šaukštai. It arose because the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania bought spoons, forks, cooks for the soldiers of its army
    in fact made of plastic and aluminum, and the money was paid to the intermediary sellers as if these spoons and cooks were made of gold. Just at this very time in NATO
    the Rukla training ground in Lithuania, in the forests, there were exercises for scouts and for these very anti-aircraft gunners MANPADS.
    So the soldiers had such equipment that when they undressed on the body of the soldiers they found two hundred ticks. There were photographs in Lithuanian news portals and naked soldiers, whose bodies were strewn with ticks,
    looked terrible. A check began, where is the money for equipment and means and items for the personal protection of soldiers and then this scam with the Golden Spoons floated away. After that, the command of the NATO army, and the Lithuanian army is a subdivision of the NATO army and not some kind of independent army, all purchases and the determination of what is needed and what is not needed by the Lithuanian army were taken over by the NATO command. So these Norwegian anti-aircraft systems to Lithuania, which is a NATO training ground and Washington's vassal in the form of a mongrel barking at Russia, was ordered to buy in Brussels and Washington. You will say that does not NATO understand that Lithuania is an object of
    military intervention on the part of Russia is not needed from the times of the Moscow Kingdom and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania inclusive to the present day, but today it is from the territory of Lithuania, as from the NATO bridgehead for aggression against Russia, that one can expect a military provocation and that in response to
    this provocation Russia will instantly destroy the NATO bridgehead with these ZK? Of course NATO and Washington understand this, but there are two points.
    First. Trump made it clear to vassals that they paid at least 2% of GDP. And who manufactures missiles and radars for these ZKs, which were ordered to be bought by Lithuania? That's right, they are produced by corporations of America and
    America does not care that in the event of a military conflict, these ZK will be destroyed in the first place.
    Second. But what about the ambition of the Lithuanians, whose army eats with golden spoons and forks, and does not have at least some semblance of modern air defense systems? They got it, although ticks in the forests of Lithuania at the landfill
    of course not extinct and is waiting for delicious NATO blood ...
  18. Magmax
    Magmax 1 November 2020 21: 29
    -1
    There Cannot be any serious talk about a airspace defense vithout fighter airforce.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 1 November 2020 22: 05
      +1
      Quote: Magmax
      There Cannot be any serious talk about a airspace defense vithout fighter airforce.

      What? whatCan't there be any serious talk about aerospace defense without fighter aircraft?
      Well, it's only against helicopter planes that fighter aircraft is effective. We need a missile defense system. NASAMS is essentially an analogue of Buk. Only stationary.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 2 November 2020 11: 43
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        What? what Can't there be any serious talk about aerospace defense without fighter aircraft?

        There can be no serious talk about airspace defense without fighter aircraft.
        And this is still true - because even if the air defense missile system has a missile defense system with an active radar seeker, the problem of the radio horizon and terrain folds remains - for surveillance radars. Plus, the 40 km range of the air defense missile system will not be saved from anti-missile defense and "long-range" URO.
    2. danske75
      danske75 2 November 2020 19: 19
      0
      They are members of NATO and have air police 24/7.
  19. Moonsund
    Moonsund 1 November 2020 23: 03
    +2
    Lithuania, according to a UN report, is named a vanishing state. For 30 years, 700 thousand. A demographic winter, like in the series "Game of Thrones" - winter is coming
    1. danske75
      danske75 2 November 2020 19: 20
      0
      What is the year of the report, you may ask?
  20. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 2 November 2020 00: 06
    -1
    The launcher is connected to the control system and can be located up to 25 km from it.


    When will Russia with all our fat generals come up with such a thing ?!

    When it finally comes that not only complexes are needed where both the radar and the launcher and the crew are all on the same machine, but also separate separate modules connected to one control center hidden from the enemy, so that in case of detection and destruction of the radar, the control center could enter into battle another module with radar or OLS and hit air targets, saving lives.

    No, everyone will sculpt on the same platform so that they all go to ashes with one rocket.
    1. Grits
      Grits 2 November 2020 04: 07
      -1
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      When will Russia with all our fat generals come up with such a thing ?!

      When it finally comes that not only complexes are needed where both the radar and the launcher and the crew are all on the same machine, but also separate separate modules connected to one control center hidden from the enemy, so that in case of detection and destruction of the radar, the control center could enter into battle another module with radar or OLS and hit air targets, saving lives.

      No, everyone will sculpt on the same platform so that they all go to ashes with one rocket.

      Have you heard anything about the S-350? But this is something similar to a Norwegian device.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 November 2020 11: 53
      0
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      When will Russia with all our fat generals come up with such a thing ?!

      When it finally comes that not only complexes are needed where both the radar and the launcher and the crew are all on the same machine, but also separate separate modules connected to one control center hidden from the enemy, so that in case of detection and destruction of the radar, the control center could enter into battle another module with radar or OLS and hit air targets, saving lives.

      You have just described the country's air defense systems, starting from the mid-50s of the last century. PU - separately, antenna post - separately, control cabin - separately.
      The only thing we didn’t come to was to add "spare" radars to the division.

      And the all-on-one-chassis complexes are military air defense systems. For her, the time of folding and deployment is important, as well as maximum autonomy. Concept "Radar - separately, PU - separately"in the military air defense it proved to be insolvent after the very first combat use of the Cube air defense system: the radars were quickly knocked out, and the launchers remaining without them could not independently fire. Therefore, we had to switch from the launcher to the SDU, supplying part of the launcher with its own radar (part of the launcher was left without them, reclassified into launchers and loaders).
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 2 November 2020 13: 06
        0
        I have nothing against mobile air defense systems, on the contrary, I am only for it, but modular air defense systems are also needed, moreover, with several radars and passive OLS. So even if the complex is detected and the radar is defeated, we and our allies will not lose the entire complex at once and people.

        At the very least, we need an analogue of the Pantsir, spaced out on trailers, as it is he who has to resist the strike UAVs on the front line. And so, with a massive attack, we will save people, and make the PAO more stable. And if the complex even just has the ability to connect several modules, including several radars, the enemy will not be sure of destroying the air defense, even if he manages to hit one or more of these modules.

        And if we add false positions, then we will get an impenetrable air defense, and not like now, when our partners show us videos from drones where they destroy our air defense systems.
  21. bald
    bald 2 November 2020 02: 07
    0
    And the meaning, just - just surrendered
  22. Tugarin
    Tugarin 2 November 2020 08: 27
    16
    This will allow, according to the minister, to more effectively defend national interests and expand the presence of allied forces in the region.

    Why do they his Air defense? They completely fell under the "allies", allies come with their own.
  23. d4rkmesa
    d4rkmesa 3 November 2020 13: 20
    0
    Oga, such ammunition is just for impoverished Lithuania. One shot - minus a dollar out of the pocket of a Zemite man in the street.