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US press believes a new superpower war is imminent

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The confrontation between Washington and Beijing has gone too far. The blame for this is the short-sighted policy of the United States, which does not want to recognize the existing reality.


Christopher Lane, professor at Texas A&M University, writes about this in his article published by Foreign Affairs, believing that a new war of superpowers is imminent.

Since China will not surrender its positions in East Asia to the Americans, its confrontation with the United States could end even more sadly for the latter than the regional wars in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan.

From about the 80s of the last century, the theory began to be asserted that, for a number of reasons, in the modern world, a full-scale armed conflict between superpowers is impossible. But Christopher Lane strongly disagrees with this point of view. He believes that many "pain points" have formed in relations between Washington and Beijing, each of which can lead to war.

Lane also notes that the presence of nuclear weapons is no longer a deterrent, because modern technologies allow using miniature warheads to wage a limited nuclear war, which is incapable of leading to a global catastrophe.

According to the professor, the United States should recognize China as an equal world power and cede its dominance in the East Asian region. Otherwise, the Americans will get a war, the likes of which has not been seen since the Second World War.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 1 November 2020 11: 01 New
    22
    Is 2020 so bad, or will 2021 be even trickier? what
    1. Stasi
      Stasi 1 November 2020 11: 04 New
      23
      Quote: Dead Day
      Is 2020 so bad, or will 2021 be even trickier? what

      It is not the calendar that is to blame, but the people who fill it with an agenda, events and meaning, or its opposite - nonsense.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Lexus
        Lexus 1 November 2020 15: 59 New
        +2
        A fragment from the movie "Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson: An Introduction". (1979)
      3. Campanella
        Campanella 2 November 2020 14: 11 New
        0
        Given the cyclical nature of everything, regardless of politicians (their genesis only confirms the rule), global shocks are inevitable.
        What forms all this will take is unknown to anyone, but the polarization is strong, which means a burst of energy is possible. So write a little for optimism.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 1 November 2020 11: 08 New
      -6
      Quote: Dead Day
      Is 2020 so bad, or will 2021 be even trickier? what

      https://news.mail.ru/society/43978946/?frommail=1
      Here the Americans have invented a new virus .. but for Russia there are no preconditions for what would be better .. People are the same and the policy is the same .. however, as for the United States. China looks like the only healthy country.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 1 November 2020 12: 49 New
        +8
        Quote: Svarog
        there are no prerequisites for Russia what will be better ..

        Comrade, you are a pessimist! Next year, negative growth will continue, there will be fewer beggars and pensioners, they will die out en masse in accordance with the presidential decree on the fight against the poor, the dollar will be 150 candy wrappers, the budget will be filled with money and there will be an opportunity for tax maneuvers to increase them and the planned breakdown will take place on time.
        1. vVvAD
          vVvAD 2 November 2020 15: 32 New
          +1
          laughing Well, why minus it like that? I laughed heartily, here's your honestly earned +
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 1 November 2020 14: 18 New
        +6
        Quote: Svarog
        https://news.mail.ru/society/43978946/?frommail=1
        Here the Americans invented a new virus ..

        You, dear, read at least the articles before writing something ... This is NOT a virus - it is an HEREDITAL disease caused by a mutation in the X chromosome, which manifests itself in most cases in men, since their Y chromosome carries others genes and cannot compensate for the "broken" gene in the only male X chromosome, in women there are 2 X chromosomes, so if there is a mutation in one, the second normal will compensate for the mutant ... In general, the mechanism of manifestation is exactly the same as in the ever-memorable hemophilia ...
        And the Americans did not "invented" this disease, but revealed it by analyzing the genomes of men with certain clinical manifestations ...
        1. bk316
          bk316 2 November 2020 01: 47 New
          +3
          You, dear, read at least the articles before writing something ...

          He reads it all like that. For that about everything has an opinion. And then there's the complex text ...
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 2 November 2020 18: 03 New
            0
            Quote: bk316
            And then there's the complex text ...

            It is worth saying that the text turned out to be difficult not only for the readers, but also for the "scribes" - the Russian article was written unrealistically clumsily, I understood the essence only because not so long ago I myself came across the English original of the scientific article in which the syndrome was described)) )
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 1 November 2020 11: 12 New
      12
      Quote: Dead Day
      Is 2020 so bad, or will 2021 be even trickier? what

      ... - What are you thinking, Lieutenant?
      - Yes, Mish ... everything is terribly bad ...
      - Cheer up, it will be even worse!

      Quote from the movie "War as War" ...
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 1 November 2020 19: 35 New
        0
        Quote: sabakina
        Quote: Dead Day
        Is 2020 so bad, or will 2021 be even trickier? what

        ... - What are you thinking, Lieutenant?
        - Yes, Mish ... everything is terribly bad ...
        - Cheer up, it will be even worse!

        Quote from the movie "War as War" ...

        Joke on the topic ...
        There are two friends.
        - How are you?
        - You know, everything is so bad, the wife left, they kicked out of work, the dacha burned down.
        A friend consoles:
        - Do not worry. Life is like a zebra striped, the stripe is white, the stripe is black.
        Time passes. Meet again.
        - How are you?
        - Do you remember when you told me about the stripes?
        - Yes, of course.
        - So it was a white stripe

    4. Doccor18
      Doccor18 1 November 2020 11: 29 New
      +7
      There will be no war. The war will kill the economy of the PRC. The Chinese understand this. Confrontation, sanctions, provocations and formidable appeals - all this is and will be. But war, real war, is not. The United States has almost reached the critical point of its dominance, and then degradation or ... war. But the Chinese do not need war. The result will be concessions .. China needs time. Another 10 years, or a little more. Until they are ready for war with the leader of the capitalist world ..
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 1 November 2020 11: 59 New
        22
        Quote: Doccor18
        There will be no war. The war will kill the economy of the PRC. The Chinese understand this. Confrontation, sanctions, provocations and formidable appeals - all this is and will be. But war, real war, is not. The United States has almost reached the critical point of its dominance, and then degradation or ... war. But the Chinese do not need war. The result will be concessions .. China needs time. Another 10 years, or a little more. Until they are ready for war with the leader of the capitalist world ..

        If China does not need war, this does not mean that mattresses do not need it. It is the prospect of the loss of US dominance that is a motivating factor for them to stop China right now, since they will not be able to do this in 10-15 years. Only along the way, the mattresses are already very late because they alone will not last the war, and there are not many people willing to participate in the coalition against China, perhaps nothing decisive and playing the role "in all the barrels of plugs" of Ukrainians, Balts and Poles. Of course, the option of head-on collision between Beijing and Delhi would be preferable for the United States. they would have taken part in this conflict indirectly through the supply of weapons to the Indians, without exposing their armed forces to attack along the way by "chopping up cabbage", and by slowing down the expansion of the PRC's influence in the world. For which, in fact, the conflict is being started.
        1. Pavel57
          Pavel57 1 November 2020 12: 44 New
          +6
          Being a vegetarian doesn't mean they don't want to eat you.
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 1 November 2020 13: 19 New
          +4
          ... because they alone will not last the war, and there are not many who wish to participate in the coalition against China ... 

          Yes, there are enough of them: Japan, Korea, Singapore, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Australia with New Zealand, Great Britain with France, Canada. All of these will surely support the mattresses. India and Indonesia can also connect ...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 1 November 2020 14: 30 New
            +8
            Quote: Doccor18
            Yes, there are enough of them: Japan, Korea, Singapore, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Australia with New Zealand, Great Britain with France, Canada. All of these will surely support the mattresses. India and Indonesia can also connect ...

            In most of the economies of the countries you listed, too much money is tied to China, so in the dispute between the United States and China, they will most likely be among the "sympathizers" and adhere to neutrality, with the exception of Australia and New Zealand. Japan and South Korea, and so can fall under the distribution, due to the fact that there, almost within walking distance from China, are located American bases that will be involved in the second / actions from the territory of these states. In order for their interests to be directed in the "right direction" and diverted from participation in the procedure for "maintaining dominance" of the United States in the region, North Korean comrades with their mobile reserve of 4,7 million bayonets and desire can be involved in the matter. liberate "South Koreans from the capitalists." I don't think that this scenario is very interesting for the United States. At the same time, the presence of a territorial dispute between Beijing and Delhi and a conflict aimed at resolving it suits the United States quite well. both the wolves and the sheep "allied" to them will be safe, despite the fact that the two not weak economies of this region will ruin their resources, strengthening the economy of mattresses.
          2. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 1 November 2020 14: 31 New
            +4
            Dear Nyrobsky, I agree with you. But you overlooked one important circumstance: China as a state and its armed forces are constantly strengthening. But the United States, as a state, is degrading. Pay attention to the upcoming elections. I am sure whoever they choose, the majority of votes will be minimal. And the losing side will not agree with the election result. All this in a complex - the collapse of society.
            1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
              GELEZNII_KAPUT 1 November 2020 15: 34 New
              +1
              Dear Nyrobsky, I agree with you. But you overlooked one important circumstance: China as a state and its armed forces are constantly strengthening. But the United States, as a state, is degrading. Pay attention to the upcoming elections. I am sure whoever they choose, the majority of votes will be minimal. And the losing side will not agree with the election result. All this in a complex - the collapse of society.
              Yes, I agree that a war between the PRC and the United States may not be needed. hi
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 1 November 2020 16: 53 New
              +3
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              Dear Nyrobsky, I agree with you. But you overlooked one important circumstance: China as a state and its armed forces are constantly strengthening. But the United States, as a state, is degrading. Pay attention to the upcoming elections. I am sure whoever they choose, the majority of votes will be minimal. And the losing side will not agree with the election result. All this in a complex - the collapse of society.

              The problem is that as a result of the elections, "public confrontation" can develop into a civil war in the United States and lead to their collapse. War, in this case, can be used as a cementing factor for "uniting society" in front of an external threat. A wounded beast is dangerous because it is unpredictable and can rush at any moment.
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich 2 November 2020 11: 15 New
                +1
                I don't even dream of a civil war in the United States. But I think that it would be high time for them to "fight" and to have their own "Petliur" and "Makhno". At the same time they will drive the fat off themselves. In any case, I'm sure it will be very interesting.)
                As one of our professor used to say, at the institute - "the state, as an internal combustion engine, cannot be permanently powerful. Sooner or later, the engine must be overhauled."
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 2 November 2020 12: 50 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                  I don't even dream of a civil war in the United States. But I think that it would be high time for them to "fight" and to have their own "Petliur" and "Makhno". At the same time they will drive the fat off themselves. In any case, I'm sure it will be very interesting.)
                  As one of our professor said, at the institute -"The state, as an internal combustion engine, cannot be permanently powerful. Sooner or later, the engine must be overhauled."

                  Something like this. hi
          3. vVvAD
            vVvAD 2 November 2020 15: 39 New
            0
            Quote: Doccor18
            Yes, there are enough of them: Japan, Korea, Singapore, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Australia with New Zealand, Great Britain with France, Canada. All of these will surely support the mattresses. India and Indonesia can also connect ...

            It is one thing to shout nasty things from behind a striped mattress, and quite another thing to stand upright (especially for the listed superpowers of our time lol) - you can get it by the teeth. And do not nod at NATO - in relation to all these countries, sanctions rule - the weight category is not the one to measure up against the three modern superpowers. Even India is not yet in the "club".
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 1 November 2020 16: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          If China does not need war, this does not mean that mattresses do not need it.

          Yes, not mattresses, dear, but the Anglo-Saxons. Not the United States is the hegemon of the world, but England, and the United States is only a colony of London.
          To make it clearer ... look at the politics of England and at its existence in general. There are no minerals, no gas, no oil ... yes, they actually have no nichrome on the island. However, the English pound is the most solid currency in the world. And that's it. These falls and the rise of the petrodollar to the pound is generally on the drum. Its value has not changed much over the past 100 years.
          Now there is a war not of countries, and not even of peoples, but a WAR OF CIVILIZATIONS. And here it does not matter at all whether China, the USA, Russia wants it or not ... the war will be ... more precisely, it has been going on for 500-600 years ... look what England was doing with Russia. Who killed Rasputin, who killed our kings more than once? Who funded Hitler? etc...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 1 November 2020 17: 07 New
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            If China does not need war, this does not mean that mattresses do not need it.

            Yes, not mattresses, dear, but the Anglo-Saxons. Not the United States is the hegemon of the world, but England, and the United States is only a colony of London.
            To make it clearer ... look at the politics of England and at its existence in general. There are no minerals, no gas, no oil ... yes, they actually have no nichrome on the island. However, the English pound is the most solid currency in the world. And that's it. These falls and the rise of the petrodollar to the pound is generally on the drum. Its value has not changed much over the past 100 years.
            Now there is a war not of countries, and not even of peoples, but a WAR OF CIVILIZATIONS. And here it does not matter at all whether China, the USA, Russia wants it or not ... the war will be ... more precisely, it has been going on for 500-600 years ... look what England was doing with Russia. Who killed Rasputin, who killed our kings more than once? Who funded Hitler? etc...

            The USA has long been not a colony of England. At one time, England turned to Russia for help in sending an expeditionary force to restore order in the American colonies, but Catherine refused, in fact, supporting the struggle of the colonies for independence from England. But the mattresses no longer remember this, as well as the fact that when they elected their first president Crimea was already Russian, but this is a retreat. Returning to your comment, it turns out that a prosperous Great Britain will also benefit from the fact that the Chinese will knock the arrogance off the mattresses and raise the role of Britain.
            1. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 2 November 2020 07: 46 New
              +1
              Even Australia removed all levers of pressure from England and became independent, but remained an ally of England and America. Big Brothers will always support, but you have to pay for it by supporting American politics.
        4. The comment was deleted.
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 1 November 2020 12: 06 New
        +3
        The US needs to deal with the elections. And there ..... On Tuesday elections, the center of Washington has already been blocked by various barriers, closing the facades of houses, entrances to parking lots .... in all seriousness expect the arrival of "white people" with trunks, in case Trump loses.
        They have no time for war.
        Well, after that a new president or a new old one, until he takes office before the war.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 1 November 2020 12: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: YOUR
          The US needs to deal with the elections. And there ... Tuesday elections

          I wonder what you care about the American elections?
          1. sleeve
            sleeve 1 November 2020 12: 56 New
            +8
            Direct business. If there were no nuclear weapons in such a volume and the control unit of the world rip-off, then the forest would go ...
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 1 November 2020 12: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: sleeve
              Direct business. If there were no nuclear weapons in such a volume and the control unit of the world rip-off, then the forest would go ...

              Can you line up your thoughts in a logical chain? Is it not clear from your set of words what you are afraid of?
              1. sleeve
                sleeve 1 November 2020 13: 02 New
                +7
                The trouble is what. Not traceable? Well, then I probably don't need to ...
                1. sleeve
                  sleeve 1 November 2020 13: 04 New
                  +5
                  And so ... I am afraid of anarchy and anarchy from an internal conflict. These can fall into a civilian. Donated. I’m afraid of this. The rest is secondary.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 1 November 2020 13: 08 New
                    +4
                    Quote: sleeve
                    And so ... I am afraid of anarchy and anarchy from an internal conflict. These can fall into a civilian.

                    What do you care what they have? How can this affect your personal life?
                    1. sleeve
                      sleeve 1 November 2020 14: 21 New
                      +6
                      Yes ... Then you got me. Indeed, neither Biden nor Trump is important for my personal life.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 1 November 2020 14: 32 New
                        11
                        Quote: sleeve
                        Yes ... Then you got me. Indeed, neither Biden nor Trump is important for my personal life.

                        Thank you for an adequate and honest answer! good drinks
                        And then many people write their feverish delirium, about the ebb and flow, Biden-Trump, Ukrainians and Balts, who have nothing to do with their present life and state of affairs in the Russian Federation.
                        Gloominess of consciousness and complete absence of critical thinking, as well as cause-and-effect relationships. laughing
                      2. hydroy
                        hydroy 1 November 2020 21: 43 New
                        0
                        If there is a civilian in the United States, the dollar will collapse, maybe Maxim has a big account in dollars, then personal)
                      3. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 1 November 2020 23: 26 New
                        15
                        Quote: hydroy
                        the dollar will collapse, maybe Maxim has a large dollar account, then personal)

                        I don't think this is the case laughing drinks
                2. bk316
                  bk316 2 November 2020 01: 52 New
                  +1
                  How can this affect your personal life?

                  Is this such a joke?
                  True, it is not clear how anarchy in the United States can affect any of us?
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 1 November 2020 14: 27 New
              +8
              Quote: sleeve
              Well, then I probably don't need to ...

              laughing

              Quote: sleeve
              Direct business. If there were no nuclear weapons in such a volume and the control unit of the world rip-off, then the forest would go ...

              Not everyone understands this ...
              The world has become too small. And it becomes quite normal that due to the drought in Honduras, a cup of coffee in Yakutsk is becoming more expensive.
  2. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 1 November 2020 18: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Doccor18
    Until they are ready for war with the leader of the capitalist world ..

    China can become a leader in the economy. May come out on top in terms of GDP. But even if this happens, the time when one country (capitalist or some other) can dictate its will to the whole world is coming to an end.
    As for the TMV, its results will be knocked out with a chisel in the form of drawings (or on the walls of caves) ... If there is someone ...
  • Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 1 November 2020 11: 38 New
    +4
    I don't expect anything good from next year.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 1 November 2020 12: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
      I'm not expecting anything good from next year

      It depends on whom and what is considered good. Next year will be critical and defining. Who will take what place in the new world.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 1 November 2020 12: 34 New
        +8
        Quote: Sergey39
        It depends on whom and what is considered good. Next year will be critical and defining.

        Is he really going to die ?! belay
      2. Sergey M. Karasev
        Sergey M. Karasev 1 November 2020 17: 46 New
        +1
        Not necessarily the next one. The climax and denouement will most likely occur later, but tensions and problems will build up next year.
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 1 November 2020 17: 56 New
          +1
          I agree. But "later" of the concept is expandable. But the tie is happening almost now. In the US elections, 47% of voters have already voted.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 1 November 2020 18: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Karasev
      I don't expect anything good from next year.

      And once it was different:

      And people were waiting for the new year and even rejoiced ...
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 2 November 2020 07: 52 New
        0
        It would be better if communal apartments were resettled than prices were lowered. My relatives are 9 people, 3 families lived in one room!
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 1 November 2020 13: 29 New
    +4
    Quote: Dead Day
    Is 2020 so bad, or will 2021 be even trickier? what

    It will get even worse. The number of contradictions in the world is growing, ambitions are off the charts, and no one wants to give in to anyone and resolve issues peacefully.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 2 November 2020 14: 14 New
    0
    You can place bets! Anyway, 2021 will not be any easier than this year.
    The Spanish woman lasted 3 years ...
  • V1er
    V1er 1 November 2020 11: 02 New
    +5
    The longer the US pulls, the tighter China.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 1 November 2020 11: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: V1er
      The longer the US pulls, the tighter China.

      In the event of a nuclear war, it will hook everyone, for this reason it is good that they are pulling .. Only now it seems to me that the war will be bacteriological ..
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 1 November 2020 11: 34 New
        -2
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: V1er
        The longer the US pulls, the tighter China.

        In the event of a nuclear war, it will hook everyone, for this reason it is good that they are pulling .. Only now it seems to me that the war will be bacteriological ..

        yes And at the genetic level with the selective defeat of a certain race. Of course it all sounds scary. But apparently everything goes to this.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 1 November 2020 18: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: Observer2014
          Of course, all this sounds scary. But apparently everything goes to this.

          Uh-uh-uh ... How you were "minded" ... And more recently, this notorious COVID-19 served as a reason for ridicule. Today, many believe that the option you proposed is a fairy tale. But this is nonsense.
          In our time, when harmful insects are destroyed by sterilizing males, we must raise the level of spore to an abstract height ...

          ... and remember that such experiments have already been carried out.
          I am afraid of just such a war, which will not be called a war, and they will wonder where that came from ...
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 1 November 2020 18: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: Observer2014
            Of course, all this sounds scary. But apparently everything goes to this.

            Uh-uh-uh ... How you were "minded" ... And more recently, this notorious COVID-19 served as a reason for ridicule. Today, many believe that the option you proposed is a fairy tale. But this is nonsense.
            In our time, when harmful insects are destroyed by sterilizing males, we must raise the level of spore to an abstract height ...

            ... and remember that such experiments have already been carried out.
            I am afraid of just such a war, which will not be called a war, and they will wonder where that came from ...

            And what, on the site Voennoye Obozreniye, minus for comments? No.It has long been clear to everyone that there are several Mikhans with a bunch of nicknames registered here. And the michans run the site. They appoint enemies. They decide who is right and who is wrong. So yes, these disadvantages can be as fair as crying And it's also fun to get a PM from a banned Oscar. "Möbius" turns out to be an immortal Koschey wassat It even threatens from the other world. This is all our favorite site. And where has the main mikhan SRTs-P15 gone? bullyProbably minuses in quiet sculpting. This and only this he can do from his heap of nicknames. They do not have a scarlet flower. Everything is like in life. You have to cheat.
            1. bk316
              bk316 2 November 2020 01: 59 New
              +1
              Everyone has understood this for a long time

              You do not understand anything. You, svarog and company regularly write garbage about the same coronavirus or something else if it concerns the authorities.
              And sometimes you make VERY correct guesses, as in this thread.
              You probably think that you should always be added or, on the contrary, negative?
              But no, thank God, VO has not completely sunk and commentators are rewarded for the content of their comments.
              1. Alex Justice
                Alex Justice 2 November 2020 07: 59 New
                -1
                But no, thank God, VO has not completely sunk and commentators are rewarded for the content of their comments.

                If the VO censorship passes.
                There should be no censorship in a democratic country. DailyMail does not delete or ban anything, it gives people a say.
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 2 November 2020 04: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Observer2014
              They don't have a scarlet flower, just like in life.

              Yes, everything is clear without hints. In their life, the cup does not come out:

              laughing
              They are still far from the stone (scarlet) flower ... But we, however, will live!
              drinks
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 3 November 2020 19: 12 New
                +1
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Quote: Observer2014
                They don't have a scarlet flower, just like in life.

                Yes, everything is clear without hints. In their life, the cup does not come out:

                laughing
                They are still far from the stone (scarlet) flower ... But we, however, will live!
                drinks

                yes soldier good drinks
      2. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 1 November 2020 11: 39 New
        -4
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: V1er
        The longer the US pulls, the tighter China.

        In the event of a nuclear war, it will hook everyone, for this reason it is good that they are pulling .. Only now it seems to me that the war will be bacteriological ..

        And what's the catch if your military and civilians also die like flies? If you start such a war, you first need to develop a vaccine, produce it in large quantities and vaccinate at least the military, this will not go unnoticed. And how a nuance agent can mutate, and the vaccine will go by the side
        1. t-12
          t-12 1 November 2020 13: 41 New
          +2
          develop a vaccine, produce a large quantity of it and vaccinate at least the military
          Now imagine that under the guise of a "covid vaccine", Americans will be given a vaccine against another, much more dangerous virus that will "accidentally" appear in China in 2021 or 2022?
      3. Sergey M. Karasev
        Sergey M. Karasev 1 November 2020 11: 39 New
        +5
        IMHO, biological warfare is already underway.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 1 November 2020 12: 07 New
          +6
          Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
          IMHO, biological warfare is already underway.

          Coupled with demographic and religious.
      4. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 1 November 2020 20: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        the war seems to me to be bacteriological ..

        It can still be chemical. Mattresses and small shaved "chemistry", "newbies" of different, have accumulated so much that in China all the flies will die.
        And the Chinese and we have no "chemistry" at all, they destroyed it.
        1. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 2 November 2020 06: 04 New
          0
          What makes biological warfare convenient is that it will be almost impossible for the enemy to prove the very fact of biological warfare. Everything can be attributed to natural mutations and unsanitary conditions. The fact of chemical warfare using obviously artificial agents will be too obvious.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 2 November 2020 10: 25 New
            -1
            Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
            What makes biological warfare convenient is that it will be almost impossible for the enemy to prove the very fact of biological warfare.

            Did you mean bacteriological warfare?
            Duc, she's already coming.
            Full length. Did not notice?
            1. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 2 November 2020 11: 49 New
              0
              Yes, I noticed, I noticed, see above:

              Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev (Sergey)
              1
              Yesterday, 11: 39

              +5
              IMHO, biological warfare is already underway.
      5. bk316
        bk316 2 November 2020 01: 53 New
        0
        As soon as the war seems to me to be bacteriological ...

        Svarog, you amaze me sometimes you write such garbage, and sometimes to the point ...
  • APASUS
    APASUS 1 November 2020 11: 03 New
    10
    China does not want a military confrontation with the Americans, it is doing everything to quietly replace the United States, not all international markets. Once England was the ruler of the seas, but now it is one name.
    1. Stasi
      Stasi 1 November 2020 11: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: APASUS
      Once upon a time, England was the ruler of the seas, but now it is one name.

      Britain's departure from this pedestal was preceded by two World Wars ... This must be borne in mind.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 1 November 2020 11: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Stasi
        Britain's departure from this pedestal was preceded by two World Wars ... This must be borne in mind.

        These are related events. These wars were not rebellions against the might of the Empire.
        1. Stasi
          Stasi 1 November 2020 11: 48 New
          +5
          Quote: APASUS
          These are related events. These wars were not rebellions against the might of the Empire.

          Nevertheless, "some" took advantage of these events to overthrow Britain from the leading roles in world politics.
          In WWII, this process was started, and in the course of and following the results of WWII, it was completed.
        2. TAMBU
          TAMBU 1 November 2020 12: 43 New
          +3
          Well, yes, of course ... the Germans did not want to rip off part of the colonies from Britain ... All the main empires except the British were not very happy with what kind of colonies they had ... this was exactly the uprising against the hegemony of the British crown ... everyone wanted to redistribute territories ...
  • iouris
    iouris 1 November 2020 11: 06 New
    -5
    Shaw, again ?!
    There is a civil war in the United States. The rest of the "superpowers" held their breath ...
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 1 November 2020 12: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      There is a civil war in the United States


      Shaw, already?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 November 2020 11: 08 New
    +2
    The Chinese are negotiating conflict prevention with the United States, just like we are with the United States. Last week the Chinese gave information.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 1 November 2020 11: 08 New
    +4
    Christopher Lane will not be heeded, but I am glad that there are sober-minded people in the USA.
    1. Stasi
      Stasi 1 November 2020 11: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: parusnik
      I am glad that there are sober-minded people in the USA.

      It is not encouraging that the sober is one thing, while the politicians in power are quite another.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 1 November 2020 11: 30 New
        +7
        There was a time when the voice of simple, sober-minded people stopped the deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe for a while ..
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 November 2020 11: 33 New
          +4
          Quote: parusnik
          There was a time when the voice of simple, sober-minded people stopped the deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe for a while ..

          Not only a voice ... but the will of the political leadership and the presence of ideological allies close to the United States hi
        2. iouris
          iouris 1 November 2020 11: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: parusnik
          There was a time when the voice of simple sober-minded people

          This has never happened. What happened? There were: "the leading role of the Leninist Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee," "the unity of the Soviet people," "the Warsaw Pact Organization," "invincible and legendary," the state monopoly on vodka ... and so on.
        3. Stasi
          Stasi 1 November 2020 12: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: parusnik
          There was a time

          Tyu-tu, those times yes Everything, the train has left, everything is crossed out, and there is nothing to rely on "prudence".
        4. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 1 November 2020 20: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: parusnik
          There was a time when the voice of simple, sober-minded people stopped the deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe for a while ..

          Do you mean Khrushchev's decision to deploy nuclear missiles in Cuba? Yes, Khrushchev was a simple man ... And yes, that decision removed US medium-range nuclear missiles from Europe (Turkey and Italy) for a long time.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 November 2020 11: 10 New
    +2
    Main question. Will the United States survive in such a war as a global superpower? If Chinese goods are simply removed from the US market, the blow will be heavy. laughing my American acquaintances say that there is simply an indecent amount of Chinese goods in supermarkets. Fight? Ha, first return the production to your territory.
    1. t-12
      t-12 1 November 2020 13: 35 New
      0
      Will the United States survive in such a war as a global superpower?

      Will survive. The climate is warm, the agriculture is sufficient. The population lives in the suburbs (dispersed to protect against a nuclear explosion). It has its own oil (unlike China) and a powerful fleet for extracting foreign oil.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 1 November 2020 20: 40 New
        0
        Quote: t-12
        Has its own oil (unlike China)

        China, if anything, will buy the amount of oil needed in the Russian Federation.
    2. iouris
      iouris 1 November 2020 14: 08 New
      +1
      After the exchange of nuclear strikes, the consumption of Chinese (and not only) goods, I think, will drop sharply. To a minimum. And the production will "return to its territory."
      If a nuclear war does not happen, then the same thing will happen as happened to the USSR: the economy of the USSR was destroyed, tied to the consumption of "overseas" products in exchange for resources, and the rest profited from this: the USA, Turkey, the EU and China .. even Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, of course, Poland ... and everything, everything, everything. But the States have no natural resources to export.
  • prior
    prior 1 November 2020 11: 10 New
    +7
    Rather, American blacks will start a civil war within the United States than go to the call to fight with China.
    America has already lost, the blacks have already brought the whites to their knees.
    The Americans will not be able to fight China with someone else's hands and heads.
    And God forbid they try, there will be orders of magnitude more corpses than from covid.
    And it will be a complete collapse.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 1 November 2020 11: 12 New
    10
    modern technologies allow using miniature warheads to wage a limited nuclear war, which is incapable of leading to a global catastrophe.

    A very dangerous opinion !!! Anyone who will suddenly lose, will he want to observe the next "rules of war" ???
    As it is doubtful all this ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 1 November 2020 12: 19 New
      10
      This is not an opinion, this person is sick all over his head and does not understand that the loser will never be limited ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 November 2020 12: 37 New
        +3
        Hi soldier
        It and we are not of this world, and foreign, especially overseas, live in their own, invented world!
        From our side we look and it seems they live in some kind of delirium that does not pass! And the further the delusional their ideas become!
        1. cniza
          cniza 1 November 2020 12: 40 New
          +4
          Good time! hi

          Okay, if they were at war in the computer, otherwise there is no need to experiment on us ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 November 2020 12: 43 New
            +2
            On a straight line, on a rude, on us, China, some more, they will not risk ... all from under the quiet, by the wrong hands. The tattered koshara from the islands taught them that.
            The ear must be kept sharp !!!
            1. cniza
              cniza 1 November 2020 12: 54 New
              +4
              In my opinion, you need to ring the bells and show what will happen in the event of the outbreak of war with limited nuclear charges ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 1 November 2020 13: 43 New
                +4
                Who should I show? Gay European and so in the tenacious paws of a vulture and do not flutter, almost ... there are serious leaders who have the will to put a word across the minke, simply NO! He visits so many people on his ears that complete soundproofing happened ...
                Stripes can not start wars at home, but only away from themselves ...
                GDP, of course, warned them, but this is not enough! Who else can issue a warning to minke whales ???
                It looks like nobody else.
    2. bk316
      bk316 2 November 2020 02: 03 New
      0
      would he like to comply

      what kind of rhetorical questions? Of course not!
      And the border is ghostly.
      Is a 10 KT free fall bomb a tactical nuclear weapon?
      And if you drop it at a hydroelectric power station?
      And if at a nuclear power plant?
      And if one monoblock ICBM in the taiga in the positioning area?
      And if one ICBM in Moscow?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 November 2020 15: 58 New
        0
        Fairy tales about a limited "nuclear" have long been told! To believe, not to believe, this is a choice between sanity and ..... I do not know how to describe it.
  • Lesorub
    Lesorub 1 November 2020 11: 16 New
    +3
    According to the professor, the United States should recognize China as an equal world power and cede its dominance in the East Asian region. Otherwise, the Americans will get a war, the likes of which has not been seen since the Second World War.

    The delusion of recent times, this is a hypothetical war between the United States and China - the "leadership" cannot fight its "factory" - not one, not the second is not profitable, there may be disagreements and sanctions - no more!
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 1 November 2020 11: 20 New
    +6
    It has already been announced that the mahach will be on November 3 for this, they bought all the cartridges and Kalashmats in nearby stores
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2020 11: 24 New
    +3
    America's desire to dominate the world overshadows prudence. The professor's reasoning is certainly correct, but who will listen to him.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 1 November 2020 11: 25 New
    +3
    With such a degradation of the level of education and the level of training of the elite and the United States (their representatives in the UN Senate of the State Department are already the talk of the town), of course, war is possible ... the world is ruled by leaders who do not represent geography ... the fragility of the World ... and the destructive power of weapons. ..
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 1 November 2020 11: 44 New
    -2
    while everyone is discussing the war of the superpowers, in one of the secondary countries, the president has made amendments allowing him to become a senator for life.
    1. zontov79
      zontov79 1 November 2020 12: 40 New
      -3
      And before that he said that one should not pay attention to the ruble exchange rate, the main thing is stability!
  • poquello
    poquello 1 November 2020 11: 46 New
    +2
    fuck the election campaign
  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 1 November 2020 11: 57 New
    +4
    Lane also notes that the presence of nuclear weapons is no longer a deterrent, because modern technology allows using miniature warheads to wage a limited nuclear war, which is unable to lead to a global catastrophe.

    Doesn't this professor think that the loser can slam the door and hit with non-miniature warheads? In general, no one knows for sure what is in the bins of Uncle Liao
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 1 November 2020 12: 03 New
    +1
    So suddenly the professor became the "US press".
  • cniza
    cniza 1 November 2020 12: 17 New
    +4
    Lane also notes that the presence of nuclear weapons is no longer a deterrent, because modern technology allows using miniature warheads to wage a limited nuclear war, which is unable to lead to a global catastrophe.


    I read it several times and did not immediately understand that this type believes in a limited nuclear war, his head is clearly not in order ...
  • tatra
    tatra 1 November 2020 12: 29 New
    +3
    The enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR cannot live calmly and peacefully, without unleashing "hot", "cold", vicious information wars.
  • zontov79
    zontov79 1 November 2020 12: 38 New
    -2
    In the meantime, Putin has introduced amendments to the State Duma on life-long sinatorship. And before that, he told citizens not to pay attention to the ruble exchange rate against the dollar and euro, according to him, the main thing is stability. In general, we are stably in poverty and this is a plus.
  • Maki maki
    Maki maki 1 November 2020 12: 49 New
    17
    Everyone dreams of war, even calls for it.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 1 November 2020 13: 07 New
    +1
    Yeah, the state press also declares that there is a high likelihood of a big war between the United States and the Russian Federation, Iran, Korea, Antarctica, Limpopo and further in terms of the degree of smoke.
  • demo
    demo 1 November 2020 13: 50 New
    +3
    According to the professor, the United States should recognize China as an equal world power and cede its dominance in the East Asian region. Otherwise, the Americans will get a war, the likes of which has not been seen since the Second World War.

    China today or in ten years will not be ready for war.
    Unless you take into account the fact that China decides to destroy those who regularly pay them for their goods.
    War is the continuation of politics by other means.
    And China’s policy doesn’t look aspiring to establish its own order.
    And the most important thing here is that China is a closed country, a closed culture, a closed language.
    And for hegemony it is necessary to keep "all doors open".
    The way it was in the United States until the middle of the last century.
    And before that there were 200 years of unrestrained growth due to the arrival of representatives of all nations and nationalities.
    Those. China, as soon as it begins to pursue an "open door" policy, with all the accompanying paraphernalia, then it must be understood that China is starting to squeeze everyone else.
    To understand, it must be borne in mind that:
    1. In the world, 1.1 billion people speak English. Which in itself is almost the same as Chinese.
    2. 85% of conferences are held in English.
    3. 28% of the world's books are printed in English.
    4. 90% of information on the Internet is stored in English.
    Etc.
    Besides English and Chinese, there are over 3000 languages.
    Including Russian.
    So make your own conclusions.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 1 November 2020 15: 07 New
    +1
    Forgive God. Maybe I'll have time to go to a better world before such events happen ... There is no time for pensions, however ...
    Why the hell do I need them there?
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 1 November 2020 18: 19 New
      -1
      Quote: Benzorez
      Maybe I will have time to go to a better world before such events occur ...


      You will definitely have time. And there will be no events smile
    2. Kuzmitsky
      1 November 2020 19: 44 New
      0
      Now, thanks to you, I understood their idea! They started to arrange the end of the world so that after it there was no one to pay pensions. And salaries too.
  • Flinkfan
    Flinkfan 1 November 2020 21: 12 New
    0
    Nothing is impossible. At one time, on the wave of rabid anti-communism, in order to refute one of the main postulates of the Marxist-Leninist theory that "there can be no antagonistic contradictions between states with communist ideology," the Khazars organized Damansky, Zhalanashkol, and then, in opposition to the USSR, dragged all their industrial potential from the USA and Gayopa to China ... They did a great job, today is the time to "harvest" ...
  • 123456789
    123456789 1 November 2020 21: 14 New
    0
    “If someone has hurt you, do not take revenge. Sit on the bank of the river, and soon you will see the corpse of your enemy float past you. "- Lao Tzu

    Source: https://ru.citaty.net/tsitaty/646615-lao-tszy-esli-kto-to-prichinil-tebe-zlo-ne-msti-siad-na-be/
  • Flinkfan
    Flinkfan 1 November 2020 21: 18 New
    0
    [quote = 123456789] „If someone has hurt you, do not take revenge. Sit on the bank of the river, and soon you will see the corpse of your enemy float past you. "- Lao Tzu

    "Take the seeds, sit on the shore ...." (hereinafter referred to as the text).
  • eklmn
    eklmn 2 November 2020 01: 09 New
    0
    For the curious:
    "Allusion to Threats from China's New Roadmap"
    “As Americans decide their political destiny this week by voting, the fate of the Chinese was decided for them behind closed doors last week in a fortified nomenklatura hotel run by the People's Liberation Army and known to have been used for show trials during Cultural Revolution.
    The Fifth Plenum of the Communist Party, which outlines China's economic and strategic path to 2035, has ramifications for the world that may ultimately matter as much as the outcome of the US election.
    .
    Xi Jinping's regime reverts to the Maoist doctrine of "autarkist self-sufficiency," adding a hint of threat in the language of Thursday's plenum communique. The text revives the powerful term "preparation for war", last mentioned in the five-year plan in the late 1960s, along with the announcement that China would achieve military parity with the United States within seven years.
    .
    But behind the language lies a deeper shift: a resurgence of national self-sufficiency in basic technology, energy and food production, a triple line of critical dependencies that make China vulnerable to external blockade. This is due to fears that the US-led alliance will increase pressure and use strategic leverage from the West, as is already happening with advanced semiconductor chips.
    .
    However, a deeper policy thrust under Xi Jinping is a return to Maoist economic governance and the stifling of the free market, with commissioners housed within private companies and Western ideological poisons for the most part kept at a safe distance.
    “Xi Jinping made this very clear during his visit to Guangdong. China is returning to autarky, and the system is becoming more and more like North Korea. "
    Professor Ho-Fung said the intoxicating talk about the superiority of digital technology, artificial intelligence and quantum computing is saturated with wishful thinking. “This is the mentality of the great leap forward under Mao that will end in yet another disaster,” he said.
    “There is a huge technological gap. China is investing in advanced semiconductor chips, but the money has gone down the drain. He still cannot create a viable chip and has to rely on foreign high-tech companies, ”he said.
    .
    Low quality laptop chips are easy to reproduce. Another thing is to produce advanced FGPA chips or circuits that can be programmed, which is necessary for 5G cellular broadband and artificial intelligence. They are at the forefront of materials science and miniaturization. World production at this level is controlled by the United States and its closest allies.
    This immediately doomed Huawei to fail as a global 5G leader, exposing the limits of Xi's master plan to control the Internet of Things and telecommunications infrastructure of the 2030s. This was the moment when Sino-US shadow boxing over trade turned into a veritable superpower battle.
    The quest to create a world-class chip industry has been a sad saga. Six major projects have been shut down in the last year either because they went bankrupt or because they promised too much in a rush to profit from mass production of semiconductors. This includes Wuhan Hongxin Semiconductor Manufacturing, allegedly spearheading a $ 19 billion project to produce China's first 7nm wafers - a level seen as a must at the forefront of technology.
    .
    TFP (Total Factor Productivity) productivity growth - the true measure of China's economy - has fallen to 0,7% over the past decade, from nearly 3% in the early 2000s. The country is no longer on the "convergence" trajectory that lifted Japan and Korea into the world's elite. Autarky is a surefire way to further reduce productivity. ”
  • Tneburashka
    Tneburashka 2 November 2020 11: 01 New
    0
    But how to give Asia to China if the US and not only the US are developing at the expense of third countries
  • edeligor
    edeligor 2 November 2020 13: 09 New
    0
    the presence of nuclear weapons is no longer a deterrent, because modern technologies allow using miniature warheads to wage a limited atomic war
    This is REALLY annoying! With stubborn perseverance, it is hammered into the mind of the layman that there may be a winner in a nuclear war. It’s not the most deadly virus that put the planet in a “drinking deer” position .... They are about war!
  • Egor53
    Egor53 2 November 2020 13: 13 New
    0
    "after all, modern technologies allow using miniature warheads to wage a limited nuclear war, which is incapable of leading to a global catastrophe."

    The author of the article is completely illiterate.
    No one in the world has miniature nuclear warheads now. The warheads, really miniature, from California, were made only in the USSR and the USA. Only they had a lifespan of only about a year.
    Now such warheads can ONLY be made by Russia, neither the United States, nor China such nuclear technologies are too tough.

    The United States and China can make the smallest warheads with only 239 plutonium. Plutonium 239 has a critical mass of 11 kg. And this is a warhead with a yield of about 15-20 kilotons. It's like Hiroshima. And it is difficult to call such a warhead miniatrny.

    Can the use of warheads with an explosion power of 15-20 kilotons be considered a "limited nuclear war"? This is the question.
    The explosion of such a bomb in New York will destroy the United States, not in terms of physical destruction (in such an explosion, no more than 1 million Americans will die), only after such an explosion will the dollar fall below the yuan. And more than half of the US population will flee the country.

    The use of a nuclear warhead by the Americans against China will not lead to the collapse of the country, but it will definitely lead to a retaliatory strike ... and the United States will cease to exist.

    In my opinion, the only possible scenario for the use of nuclear weapons is Israel against Iran. Perhaps with the help of the United States.
  • Alexander F.
    Alexander F. 2 November 2020 13: 16 New
    -1
    Russia is an extreme frontier of human civilization.

    An ordinary person, in his behavior, relies on a complex system of assessments, a symbiosis of morality and rationality. The Western ideology of capitalism is built on imitation of the instincts of rationality of the behavior of successful predators.

    When we at 90 abandoned human ideology and tried to live within the framework of Western ideology, we stumbled. Everything, of course, was initially wonderful, both cars and smartphones, but we began to lose ourselves and the worst thing about our own children in the crowd of idolaters of temptations.
    And all because within the framework of rationality there is no place for love, “everything that is not edible is a sham”, and love itself is just an illusion of the hidden and incomprehensible urges of the reproductive instinct “the larger the flock, the more powerful it is”.

    And this unpretentious model has learned to skillfully use very powerful individuals (and these are not necessarily people) in their own interests, as a mechanism for subordinating the bulk of people and managing them.
    So maybe on earth, something similar has already happened, but we just pretend that we do not see and do not understand. And only the treacherously capricious XYY chromosomes with their "unpredictability" - give all these secrets out of the blue.


    In 1941, Europe, united by an exceptional nation, under the leadership of Hitler, declared that it was at war with communist Russia, although according to official documents it was at war with the USSR.
    And now Europe, eaten by the Anglo-Saxons, declares that it is very dissatisfied with the Putin system in Russia, and is fighting it through sanctions.
    But in both cases, the key word is Russia.
    And there will be no communist or Putin's Russia, there will be some other, different negative definition of Russia. Russia is to blame for the united West, already only for its existence.

    Everything seems to be simple here. The Lord God created man, in his own image and likeness, and the Devil, in contrast, created evolution.
    And since then, there has been a struggle on earth between the two systems of the earthly world order.
    Russia took the side of the Lord God, and the "enlightened" West, accepted legal evolutions, taking the place of the earthly successful super predator in human form, which explains all their success.
    And the sad thing is that the boundaries of the behavior of super predators are limited by the limits of permissibility by the extremes of physical impact, and this means that a collision of systems is inevitable.

    - the struggle of human civilization in the person of Russia, with super predators in human form in the person of the Anglo-Saxon system.

    To be continued.
  • ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 3 November 2020 21: 32 New
    0
    Lane also notes that the presence of nuclear weapons is no longer a deterrent, because modern technology allows using miniature warheads to wage a limited nuclear war, which is unable to lead to a global catastrophe.

    Where the world is heading, a person who seems not stupid, but he thinks that a limited atomic war is possible !!!