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Islamic radicalism or the French provocation of the Islamists

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Talking about contemporary Islamic extremism has already become a good form in Europe. However, as well as respond to such reasoning in a rather harsh and even rude form. Some (for some reason, on behalf of the entire Christian world) talk about the incredible cruelty of the Islamists. Others (again on behalf of the entire Islamic world) speak of trampling on Muslim values ​​and responding to the persecution of Islam. Thank God, both those and others are still talking about the inadmissibility of murder as a means of fighting for their own faith.


I grew up in a land where respect for someone else's faith is established in early childhood. Where the well-known expression “they don’t go to a strange monastery with their own charter” is a rule that everyone is obliged to observe. And most paradoxically, we grew up friends. Not fanatics, but simply friends, in whose heads all religions, all norms of behavior and holidays are intertwined. Respect others and they will respect you.

Came to visit a Tatar neighbor, become a Tatar. Came to visit an idolater hunter, become an idolater. Came to visit an Old Believer, become an Old Believer. Respect someone else's house! And no one even thought that our country is mostly Christian. We just lived like that and that's it.

Why Faith Issues Are So Relevant Today


The overwhelming majority of us today, I would call "conditionally believers." Christians who sometimes visit the temple more by tradition than by a desire to communicate with God. Muslims who remember their belonging to this religion on holidays. Both of them never read the Bible or the Koran, preferring to listen to their interpretation by a priest or imam. And such reading (I'm not talking about understanding the sacred texts) requires a lot of time. And we are in a hurry all the time ...

We "modernize" the sacred books to the level of "children's Bible" and "children's Koran". We turn the Holy Scriptures into a comic strip that everyone can understand. Why is this happening? Why does modern man believe in the modern version of religion? Why do events such as those that happened recently in France shock not only Christians but Muslims as well?

I think the question is about faith itself. Not specifically in Islam, Christianity, Judaism or any other creed, but in faith in general. History humanity is a story of faith. A person cannot live without faith as such. In different periods of human development, people believed in different gods, professed different religions, but there was no period when there was no such faith.

Some believed that there are many gods ruling humanity. Others - that the tribe saves the tribal totem from adversity. The third is that God is one. The fourth is that there is no God. I quite often hear the conversations of the latter. They are really convinced that they "don't believe." However, you read some of their standard agreement and often come across there such concepts as "force majeure circumstances", "force majeure", etc.

Ultimately, this is everyone's business. You do not like God, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah or someone else, believe in the Cosmic Mind, the Universal Brain, Rock, Fate, Circumstances or something else. After all, in the end it doesn't change anything. Exactly until the moment when you suddenly decide that your faith is more important than all others. That all people should live exactly as your God says, your personal faith.

Today humanity (that very “progressive”, “democratic”, “vanguard”) has suddenly realized that the path it is following leads to a dead end. The Western world, with its tolerance, multiple sexes, freedom for any opinion, laws that violate the laws of nature, the severing of family ties and other "achievements" are gradually slipping into oblivion. He just disappears physically.

"Parent-one" and "parent-two" there can no longer give birth to "child-one"! And there are almost no dads and moms left. And those who remained live in constant fear of the fact that their son or daughter may at any time be taken away and given to these very "numbered" parents. It seems to me that one of the reasons why Europe allowed refugees from Asia and Africa to its territory is precisely the attempt to make society remember the natural distribution of "responsibilities" between the sexes.

Men "move progress", and women preserve these achievements and ensure the very existence of humanity as a species. But this is exactly what is written in most of the sacred books! This is what the Talmud, the Bible, the Koran are talking about! Even the restrictions imposed on believers by the holy books are designed to solve this very problem.

Why religious radicalism is popular today


I have already partially answered this question above. Radical youth are looking for answers to the same questions that interested us 30-40 years ago. To those very eternal questions of humanity. For all the seeming independence and advancement of modern young people, they are exactly the same as their fathers and mothers were at the same age. What were their grandparents.

Whatever we say about modern morals, clothing and morals, young men still dream of becoming strong men, and girls - mothers of beautiful and healthy children. Nature is above all the tinsel that humanity has invented. And it is nature that makes us be human.

And faith and religion are nothing more than a set of rules of nature that have been learned by humanity for centuries. Gradually, in small steps, people reduced their knowledge into teaching. Which became the basis of faith. This can explain the coincidences that are found in the religions of different nations. In parallel with this, people recorded their impressions of various events that took place on earth at different times. Let's remember the same global flood ...

Above I wrote that only a few can study old books on their own. That is why so much depends on teachers who help young people to understand the essence of religious books. And that is precisely why completely wild interpretations of divine teaching appear. Today, many centers are known where Islamic preachers are supposedly trained. In fact, the leaders of the extremist wing of Islam are being trained there. Everyone knows about it.

Religious radicalism is not invented by Muslims. There are radical movements in almost any religion. It's just that today most often civil wars, military operations of NATO and other countries (as well as the emergence of anti-government armed formations) occur in Islamic countries. And the refugees who have flooded Europe today are mostly Muslims. Hence the periodic conflicts with the radical Islamists.

Who is to blame for the deaths on religious grounds


It would seem that the answer to this question is obvious. - Those who cut off the heads of their opponents are to blame. Indeed, “the hand holding the knife” is to some extent to blame for the fact that the killer killed someone. Or "the finger that pulled the trigger of the pistol." How simple it would be if it were. Only in life everything is much more complicated.

It was not in vain that I began the article with recollections of my own religious education. In any religion, there are taboos, the violation of which is offensive to believers. Remember the anthropoid dance on the altar of the Orthodox Church? Remember your reaction to this? Now compare the reactions: yours and that of an ordinary believer to a caricature of Allah in a French magazine. But this is no less an insult to believers than satanic dancing on the altar!

Europeans are accustomed to the "type of tolerance". You can talk about anything and everything. But try to express your "fu" about gays and lesbians, same-sex marriages or juvenile justice? .. There are topics that cannot be discussed. In order not to offend the minority. And everyone is silent. Because the minority is aggressive. Because the minority is higher than the majority.

This French magazine scoffs at things sacred to many. It's not just religion. These are deaths in some kind of catastrophe. This is famine in some countries. These are the heads of state who clearly do not belong to the French provinces. Tell me, how were the Turks supposed to react to the caricature of Erdogan? Regardless of your political preferences?

What happened was what should have happened. A force has appeared that can ask for an insult! We've already seen how scary it can be. Have you seen! Let me remind those who have forgotten, January 7, 2015. Then it was in the editorial office of this very magazine that 12 people died and 11 were wounded. In total, 17 people throughout France became victims of these attacks.

And even earlier it was July 14, 2016, when in the same Nice on the Promenade des Anglais, 31-year-old Mohamed Lauege-Boulel killed 86 people by crashing into a crowd in a 19-ton truck. It was? It was!

So who is to blame for these deaths? The hand that held the knife, or the provocateurs who offend the feelings of millions of believers, including citizens of their own country? Who creates an atmosphere of horror and fear for their own lives in a European country? It is not scary that it can happen that the employees of the magazine will suffer again. The scary thing is that innocent people will suffer.

Continuation that shouldn't be



What is happening in France today is not just about the French. This applies to many countries, including Russia. Caricature of Allah is a terrible sin, from the point of view of any Muslim. A sin that cannot be forgiven. But even this is not the most dangerous thing.

Today, according to some sources, up to 10 million Muslims live in France. This is the largest diaspora in Europe. The events that are taking place now greatly affect this particular category of citizens. Islam is being radicalized. Islamists are beginning to be suspicious of those who practice Islam "slipshod". Does not strictly follow all the norms of the Koran.

However, exactly the same tendencies are taking place in other traditional religions. Friends who have become French say that for some time now they began to notice a tendency for the revival of many ancient Catholic or Jewish rites, which earlier in France were observed only by small castes of radical believers. It seems to me that such tendencies may well be considered prerequisites for religious disagreements in the future.

Be that as it may, the policy of encouraging blasphemy, desecrating sacred objects, violating ethical and religious norms in favor of imaginary freedom of speech will lead to a radicalization of society. To separation, including on religious grounds. Which is always fraught with bloody conflicts and even religious war.

While there is no war ... While it is still possible to stop ... Let's look at the actions of President Macron and the French government.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 2 November 2020 05: 58
    13
    The process of radicalization of European Muslims (as a rule, refugees living on all possible social handouts from the state) can no longer be stopped. This is not only the problem of France, it is no less acute in Germany, Sweden and many other countries. Old Europe - which we know, will no longer exist. Even the growth of "nationalist" sentiments, the popularity of right-wing parties among Europeans does not affect this process. Rabies - give "debts" to Europe, which, in fact, developed on the exploitation of "colonies" ... now the former colonies are exploiting Europeans.
    Well, taking demography into account, the composition of the European population is changing very quickly. Therefore, another question is who will live in these territories. I think in the near future, radical Islamists will begin to seriously influence European politics, self-organizing and creating political parties that will easily begin to penetrate all branches of Power.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 2 November 2020 06: 08
      12
      Came to visit a Tatar neighbor, become a Tatar. Came to visit an idolater hunter, become an idolater. Came to visit an Old Believer, become an Old Believer. Respect someone else's house!

      Or sit in your own and don't go anywhere!
      It was the European tolerance for ... that gave rise to situations similar to what happened. I am a supporter of such foundations, when it is “no hell” to go to a foreign land with my own monastery, mosque or some other structure if you have such a dislike that “I can’t eat”.
      At the same time, I want to note that publications like: "Charlie Hebdo", whose garbage stench is not the first time a reason for scandals and tragedies, must be eliminated as a source of infection.
      Key idea of ​​the article:
      The scary thing is that innocent people will suffer.
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 2 November 2020 06: 15
        +6
        France, Macron, heads ...

        A teacher at a girls' school in Islamabad, Pakistan, teaches her students how to properly chop off Macron's head.



        Pakistani donkey ...

        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 2 November 2020 07: 06
          13
          Pakistani donkey ...

          And the people in the background seem to be Afropakistani ...
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 2 November 2020 07: 36
            0
            I’m probably a scoundrel, but in my soul, I have a vengeful joy ... let the burrots rake for their own frog stupidity. IMHO.
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 2 November 2020 09: 50
              10
              Quote: Dead Day
              I’m probably a scoundrel, but in my soul, I have a vengeful joy ... let the burrots rake for their own frog stupidity. IMHO.

              Very understandable and completely natural human feelings. However, they will instantly pass, at the moment when, of course, do not bring the L-rd, they will come for you.
              This is not Paris at all.

              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 15: 13
                0
                Quote: A. Privalov
                This is not Paris at all.

                And in order for Moscow and our other cities not to resemble "paris" it is necessary for the Russians to start giving birth, and not to talk about the lack of money, etc. Do not want our children to inherit our land, strangers will inherit it, and we will become guests here.
                1. frog
                  frog 2 November 2020 20: 10
                  +4
                  In addition, it’s also good not to let anyone in.
                  1. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 22: 34
                    0
                    Quote: frog
                    In addition, it’s also good not to let anyone in.

                    Are you, by any chance, about our former compatriots? Those who are 40+ are the same as we are, and those who are younger are not all "do not understand who" and there are many normal sane among them. And there are enough stubborn people among the Russians, just remember how many "Russians" left for the National Battalions to fight against Novorossiya.
                    1. frog
                      frog 3 November 2020 12: 25
                      0
                      I, by chance, about them. But what a thing .... Among the former, as you have deigned to say, they are quite Rovshans with Jamshuds and, so to speak, somewhat more others. So I, basically, about those from whom, as from that girl, sorry, the aul can not be derived.
                      And with the stoned ones ..... They are already here. Why do I need newcomers? In addition, for some reason the local stubborn practically do not carry out terrorist attacks. Although anything happens ...
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        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 2 November 2020 11: 43
          +5
          Quote: astepanov
          The author is habitually lying

          And he also repeats nonsense about the fact that atheism is also a belief.
          "As long as there is no war ... As long as it is still possible to stop ..." the author writes ... Not yet, yes ... There are still few Muslims in percentage terms. But as it becomes more, so here you and the Sharia police will appear and a tax for the kafirs, the so-called jizya. They perceive all this talk about tolerance and tolerance as weakness.
          Here, look at how the "guest of the capital" reasons. He says that in some scripture it is written directly: if someone insults the prophet - go and cut his head off.
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 15: 08
            +2
            Quote: Hyperion
            He says that in some scripture it is written directly: if someone insults the prophet - go and cut his head off.

            Somewhat hot-blooded youngster, and about "cut his head off" I am not sure either. But it is possible to understand people, the French over and over again run up, over and over trample on other people's shrines. And what did they want, that it will "roll" every time !? Anyone will get mad when they spit in your face regularly. Just imagine the situation that these bastards, from the Ebdo, every year on May 9 and June 22, would begin to draw cartoons of veterans and blockades. Do you think there would be no person who would have called (or would have done) rip off the head of the villains !? No need to trample on other people's shrines. Freedom of speech is not freedom of insult.
            1. Past the crocodile
              Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 19: 14
              +3
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              anybody gets pissed off when they spit in your face regularly.

              And why go to the house, and even more so to move, if they regularly spit in your face? Or maybe this is a feature of some religions?
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 21: 48
                0
                Quote: Past Crocodile
                why go to the house, and even more so move

                Then, that they themselves called.
                1. Past the crocodile
                  Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 22: 31
                  +3
                  "Invited" and "agreed to shelter" are slightly different things, like charity and begging.
                  If the fire victim asked for the neighbors, he cannot demand from them that they do not walk in the house (in their house!) Naked, do not eat pork, etc. Moreover, he should not have dragged the sacrificial ram into the middle of the living room for the subsequent ritual. Buddhists and Hindus are not richer than Arabs, but there has never been such friction with them.
            2. Hypertension
              Hypertension 2 November 2020 19: 28
              +5
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              Anyone can go mad when they spit in your face regularly.

              Let them refuse the allowance in protest. That would be the "answer to Chamberlain."
              I do not justify Ebdo at all, but giving slack with this contingent is fraught with danger.
              ZY May 9 and June 22 are, for a minute, real events. Documented in memoirs, films and photographs, in the memory of veterans and home front workers. And religion has not been scientifically proven. Today they are offended for the prophet, tomorrow they will not like something else. Appetite comes with eating, you know. They already more and more often allow themselves to decide who and how should be dressed.
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 22: 00
                0
                Quote: Hyperion
                May 9 and June 22, these are, for a minute, real events

                Prophet Muhammad is also a real historical character, and for Muslims he is no less real than Victory Day is for us.
                Quote: Hyperion
                And religion is not scientifically proven

                Faith does not require proof, otherwise it is no longer a faith / religion.
                Quote: Hyperion
                tomorrow they won't like something else

                For centuries, Muslims, Christians and Buddhists have coexisted in Russia. And, here, in "enlightened" Europe, for some reason, radicalism flourishes in a violent color.
                1. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 3 November 2020 13: 22
                  -1
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  Prophet Muhammad is also a real historical character, and for Muslims he is no less real than Victory Day is for us.

                  Historical character, yes. But religious only for Muslims. And he lived one and a half thousand years ago, and the participants of the Second World War are still alive.
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  For centuries, Muslims, Christians and Buddhists have coexisted in Russia. And, here, in "enlightened" Europe, for some reason, radicalism flourishes in a violent color.

                  Of course, of course. After all, not so long ago, there was no radicalization of Islam in the North Caucasus ... And "getting along for centuries" does not guarantee "getting along" in the future. Isn't the FSB covering up those who are preparing terrorist attacks more and more often?
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 2 November 2020 13: 26
          +3
          Quote: astepanov
          Is it really not clear that religion is the eternal source of nationalism, that from the statement present in every religion "our faith is the only true one"

          It's not even a matter of faith, there is no such faith where they profess to kill, cut heads, rape. But there is radicalism and extremism, which puts "faith" at the head, whatever they may be. The Christian world has already departed from the "faith", even those Christians who go to church are far from Christianity. Unlike Christianity, the Muslim religion is a priority for many peoples, and this is where the radicals place their bets, creating their teachings and attracting young people there, on which competent preachers are working, and they do not encounter opposition, especially in European countries. Moreover, immigrants practically live in their own communities in isolation from the citizens of the host country. This is where radical organizations and sects are created. The same France, having extensive experience of living together in Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, etc. I could not draw conclusions, or simply forgot how to work with Muslim diasporas. And the conclusions are on the face, and not very comforting.
      3. astepanov
        astepanov 2 November 2020 15: 58
        -2
        There is no need to confuse France and Russia. In Russia, Christians and Muslims (and representatives of other faiths) have lived together for many centuries, and religious tolerance and a sense of tact are a necessary condition for maintaining peace. The law on the protection of the feelings of believers is fully justified, although it has no counterbalance in the form of the law on the protection of the rights of non-believers. In France, religion has long since lost its former meaning, and an ironic attitude towards it has become the norm. Suffice it to recall the books of Leo Taxil, widely published in the 19th century. In addition, the (now almost gone) religion in France is rooted in the Christian tradition and has nothing to do with Islam.
        The Muslims did not come to France at the request of the French - they were ALLOWED to come. At the same time, Muslims committed themselves to abiding by local laws and customs, including a calm attitude towards religion and cartoons.
        If you don't want to live like a Frenchman, go to your place in Somalia, or to Libya, or where are you from there. Today France will stop publishing cartoons, tomorrow it will eat pork, the day after tomorrow it will wear hijabs on women ...
        What the French are really to blame is that first, together with other Western countries, they began to flood the east with blood, and then let in the justly angry, robbed to poverty and illiterate people. Well, if there are no brains, you will get it - and do not whine that you are offended by "come in large numbers".
      4. Motorist
        Motorist 2 November 2020 21: 49
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Key idea of ​​the article:
        The scary thing is that innocent people will suffer.

        It seemed to me that the key thought was "they (the killers) are not guilty, they are all instigators and provocateurs." In general, religious crimes are incomprehensible to me. Probably, you have to become a drug addict to understand what drives him in search of a dose. Another option: a person wants to kill, but religion for him is like an excuse - like: do you have a smoke? and if I find it?
  2. Proton
    Proton 2 November 2020 06: 08
    +6
    Most of the world's wars have been caused by religious differences. And now this is observed, only many have a new religion for money.
    Thanks to the author for the article. Let me make one remark - "You don't like God, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah or someone else, believe in the Cosmic Mind, the Universal Brain, Rock, Destiny, Circumstances or something else." Allah is the same God, just Muslims call him that.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 2 November 2020 07: 26
      11
      Something tells me that the reason is not the notorious "radicalism". Something is wrong with one of the religions ... winked
      1. Li17
        Li17 2 November 2020 08: 57
        -2
        Well, they themselves expressed the reason that there is some kind of religion ... All religions have one essence in principle, but people also have an essence emphasized in religions, all humans are sinful!
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 2 November 2020 11: 24
          +4
          Tolerance comes to an end one day at St. Bartholomew's Night. This is a European tradition, and against the background of the deterioration of the general situation, a radical way out of the situation becomes attractive to the average man in the street.
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 2 November 2020 12: 04
        +1
        Quote: Snail N9
        Something is wrong with one of the religions ...

        This is the case with one of the religions. Everything is as usual. There was a terrorist attack, people died. The next day, "the correct representative of the correct religion" appears and says that this is not correct and that this is not at all what it should be.
        Not so with those who used to be a counterbalance to one of the religions.
      3. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 15: 18
        +1
        Quote: Snail N9
        Something is wrong with one of the religions ...

        Religion is all right, people's brains are out of order. Not everyone understands what religion calls for, they lack intelligence ...
        1. Past the crocodile
          Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 19: 25
          +2
          Could you tell me why these words are called - "O you who have believed! Do not take Jews and Christians as friends for you, for they are friends one to another. And if one of you takes them as friends, he is one of them. Verily, Allah does not lead unrighteous people! "
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 22: 06
            0
            Who is it, what was the name of the words: "kill everyone, God will know his own." The words of a pseudo-Christian, though a cardinal. A lot of all kinds of wickedness are covered by religion, and there are many narrow-minded "believers" who are ready to follow them.
            1. Past the crocodile
              Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 22: 48
              +2
              You are talking about a minister (one of thousands) of the church, and I am quoting the words of the founder of the faith, clothed in a holy book for ...
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 2 November 2020 11: 37
      -3
      Quote: Proton
      Most of the wars in the world have been driven by religious differences.

      Religion is the same ideology.
      Was the United States and the Union going to fight on the basis of religious differences?
      And if the opposing sides had nuclear weapons during the European wars of religion, would these wars happen?
      There will always be those who think they are better than others simply because they do. And if possible, it will crush the rest. Until there's only one left, hehe. And after that, the internal disassembly will completely switch.
      This is human nature: whoever is stronger is right. And religion or ideology, and other tricks, like newfangled tolerance, are just tinsel to make it more fun. "The serious reason.
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 2 November 2020 12: 09
      +3
      Quote: Proton
      Most of the wars in the world have been driven by religious differences.

      Territory and resources. Religion is a convenient excuse.
      Quote: Proton
      only many have money as a new religion.

      Money is a means and an end. Not a religion.
      Quote: Proton
      Allah is the same God, just Muslims call him that.

      It is not true. Allah does not have a "son" Jesus. And the Christian god has. Then we connect the logic ...
      1. Proton
        Proton 2 November 2020 17: 51
        0
        Quote: Hyperion
        Quote: Proton
        Most of the wars in the world have been driven by religious differences.

        Territory and resources. Religion is a convenient excuse.
        Quote: Proton
        only many have money as a new religion.

        Money is a means and an end. Not a religion.
        Quote: Proton
        Allah is the same God, just Muslims call him that.

        It is not true. Allah does not have a "son" Jesus. And the Christian god has. Then we connect the logic ...

        Muslims also recognize Jesus as a prophet (they have him as Isa). They simply recognize Muhammad as the last and most correct prophet.
        There are much more similarities between Christianity and Islam than it seems.
        And for many, money has become a new religion, it's sad. Although if you read history, there have been such people at all times.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 2 November 2020 19: 17
          0
          Quote: Proton
          Muslims also recognize Jesus as a prophet (they have him as Isa).

          They have him a prophet, and Christians have a son of God. This is a fundamental difference.
          Quote: Proton
          And for many, money has become a new religion

          Stop writing nonsense. Read at least Wikipedia for the definition of religion.
  3. Deniska999
    Deniska999 2 November 2020 06: 11
    11
    It is also important in our country to smash any germs of radicalism, not to allow publicly express approval of violent actions. Judging by the rallies at the French embassy in Moscow and the statements of some people, there are many of them. And this threat is more dangerous than the ghostly "Maidan" and schoolchildren making reposts.
    1. From Tomsk
      From Tomsk 2 November 2020 06: 55
      +6
      You can go to Dagestan to see Nurmagomedov or to Chechnya to Kadyrov).
      1. Past the crocodile
        Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 19: 37
        +3
        Why go somewhere? Dagestan and Chechnya are now in every city.
  4. BDRM 667
    BDRM 667 2 November 2020 06: 19
    +9
    Quote: ROSS 42
    publications such as: "Charlie Hebdo", whose garbage stench is not the first time a reason for scandals and tragedies must be eliminated as a source of infection.


    And there is no such thought that such publications have been created and are supported by interested parties on purpose?
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 November 2020 09: 16
      +5
      My opinion is unequivocally, there are interested parties behind all this "crap" ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 2 November 2020 19: 07
        0
        Quote: cniza
        My opinion is unequivocally, there are interested parties behind all this "crap" ...

        hi it is exactly so! In those cases when such masses act, whoever they are
        1. cniza
          cniza 2 November 2020 19: 34
          +4
          Dmitriy hi
          We do not believe that such a "Charlie Hebdo" could exist without an interested subject ...
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 2 November 2020 19: 39
            +1
            So all this tolerastiya is a sheer provocation! Even when the great man said ----
            ...... you can't harness a horse and a quivering doe in one cart ...
            Charlie and are made to fire
            1. cniza
              cniza 2 November 2020 20: 45
              +3
              Yes, they are a tool in the hands of the monsters. which we don't know.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 2 November 2020 20: 55
                0
                How strange it was when they began to feel sorry for that magazine, ugh on them ..... That year there were hardships for worthy good people.
  5. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 2 November 2020 06: 21
    0
    Religion is a dangerous thing, I am always wary of such people. I think that soon there will be religious wars, although they are already underway, radical Islam supported by some countries is coming.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 2 November 2020 06: 26
    12
    The era of atheism is over, the time of clericalism has come. Communism is equated with Nazism, fascism, is it any wonder the growth of religious extremism.
  7. demo
    demo 2 November 2020 06: 48
    +1
    While there is no war ... While it is still possible to stop ... Let's look at the actions of President Macron and the French government.

    Open hostilities begin when a match is brought up or when the parties believe that they have taken the most convenient positions for them.
    It's in the war. This is also in life. Ordinary.
    France strongly maintains its status as a country that has formulated such laws of human existence, which are successfully applied in many countries.
    The same USA, Germany, Italy and many others consider French legislation to be one of the pinnacles of world jurisprudence.
    The French themselves perceive their legislation as a kind of indulgence from any conceivable and inconceivable incidents and actions.
    Thus, relieving oneself of any responsibility for anything that might happen.
    The maximum that can be expected in the form of a reaction from the French (at least today and now) is to wear yellow (orange, green) vests and beat shop windows for a week, burn dumpsters, throw stones and flares at the police.
    Then everyone will go home, and the problem that started it all will remain so.
    The situation is exactly the same in the rest of Europe.

    People understand one thing - power and the hands that hold it, and the hands that bring these hands to power, will not allow them now to start changing the trend of movement towards the goal that no one even wants to think about. And not really talking about her.
    And they can, purely in a Christian way, only sympathize with the French, Swedes, Belgians, Germans.
    But I always remember the parable:
    "If God wants to punish a person, then he deprives him of his reason."
    They are punished by God for many sins.
    And they will not change anything.
    Until the next St. Bartholomew's night comes.
  8. Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 2 November 2020 06: 50
    13
    The author forgets that from the point of view of a stubborn Muslim, infidels have no right to exist. They must either be converted to Islam or destroyed. So all this tolerance - it only provokes fanatics to press until it flows.
    Well, the fact that the French are still hypocrites and themselves have played out with their tolerance - there is no dispute.
    1. domokl
      2 November 2020 08: 50
      +1
      Quote: Sahalinets
      from the point of view of a stubborn Muslim, infidels have no right to exist. They must either be converted to Islam or destroyed.

      Where did you get this nonsense from? Jesus Christ in Islam is exactly the same prophet as Muhammad. Prophet Isa. And Muhammad's seniority is determined only by the fact that he was sent to Earth later ...
      1. Jünger
        Jünger 2 November 2020 10: 28
        16
        This is not nonsense. All land in Islam is divided into the land of Islam and the land of the infidels. And there must be a constant war to eliminate the latter. Christians are also considered infidels, who are supposed to pay a constant tax - jizya. Tax for the right to exist.
        It was on these principles that the caliphate was founded - by Muhammad and the righteous caliphs.
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 2 November 2020 12: 22
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        Jesus Christ in Islam is exactly the same prophet as Muhammad.

        And in Christianity he is the son of God. And this moment is the cornerstone of the entire Christian religion. And Muhammad in Christianity is generally not recognized as a prophet or other religious figure. These are fundamental differences among other things. While even Shiites are almost devil worshipers for the Sunnis. You are either poorly versed in the issue, or deliberately simplify concepts, for one reason you know.
    2. Past the crocodile
      Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 19: 42
      +1
      As an informed person, I will add: from the Qur'anic point of view, EVERYTHING was created by the Almighty for Muslims, and non-Muslims have no right to anything.
  9. Hagen
    Hagen 2 November 2020 06: 52
    +5
    Came to visit a Tatar neighbor, become a Tatar.

    I don’t think we should go too far, if you weren’t born a Tatar, that you either cannot become one for five minutes at all, or your attempts to become one will look at least not sincere and deceitful from the outside. I think you should always be yourself. But what you need is to respect the feelings of others, to recognize their right to live in traditions different from yours and not to show these traditions of disrespect or disregard. At the same time, the behavior of today's Europeans shows their traditional racism, in which they consider themselves in the right to teach all non-Europeans about life and express their contempt for other people's lifestyle with the full support of the ruling elite. There is no question of equal treatment of people. Remember, when Islamists cut the heads of Russians in Chechnya, no one in Europe expressed a single bit of condemnation of Islamic radicalism, on the contrary, all Chechen fighters were gladly accepted as political refugees. In short, in their eyes only the lives of Europeans matter. These double standards are precisely the foundation of elementary racism / nationalism. It is hard to imagine that this racism will remain unanswered from the other side. Therefore, we can say with confidence that the French, and indeed the whole of Europe, are kindling ethnic and religious conflicts with their own hands.
    1. domokl
      2 November 2020 08: 57
      +3
      Quote: Hagen
      If you were not born a Tatar, that you either will not be able to become one for five minutes at all, or your attempts to become one will look, at least, not sincere, deceitful from the outside.

      It won't look like it. The owner understands that you are showing respect for his house, for his traditions, for his way of life. And forgive even if you screw up somewhere.
      I had a case when my late mother could not understand in any way that one of the friends who came to visit was a Muslim. She strove to feed him with luxurious salted lard. She just didn’t know it and thought that he didn’t like how the bacon was prepared. He cannot say that he is not supposed to eat pork, but she is offended that he does not eat such yummy.
      Do you think he was offended? Not at all. I understood everything perfectly and we laughed together in the smoking room later ...
      1. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 2 November 2020 09: 51
        +2
        Sorry, but the story is a little ... strange or something. There is no problem saying that you don't like or want to, or don't eat lard at all. I just don't eat, despite the fact that I am a Christian (not too active, but still) and at least one of my grandfather is Ukrainian :))
        Another thing is that many Muslims respect the fat, but ... so that no one sees it. The same bullshit with vodka. I remember asking a classmate: - Arsen, do you even know that Muslims are not allowed vodka? And he told me: - what are you,?
        1. icant007
          icant007 2 November 2020 11: 47
          -2
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          Omnyu asked a classmate: - Arsen,
          do you even know that Muslims are not allowed vodka? And he told me: - what are you,?


          So Arsen is an Armenian name) they can)
          1. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 2 November 2020 12: 03
            +2
            Wrong.
            not in the sense of "possible", but in the sense of only "Armenian".
            the guy's name was Arsen Ismailov and he was a Lezghin.
            1. icant007
              icant007 2 November 2020 12: 17
              -2
              Well, maybe I don't argue)
      2. Hagen
        Hagen 2 November 2020 11: 21
        0
        Quote: domokl
        It won't look like it

        I would like to see how you will read namaz when visiting a Tatar ... I do not see any obstacles to showing respect for other people's traditions, while staying within their own. This is natural and therefore reliable. But what to do in this case for you, I will not indicate. We are all responsible for our own affairs.
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 4 November 2020 19: 49
      -2
      Quote: Hagen
      But what you need is to respect the feelings of others, to recognize their right to live in traditions different from yours and not to show these traditions of disrespect or neglect. At the same time, the behavior of today's Europeans shows their traditional racism, in which they consider themselves in the right to teach all non-Europeans about life and express their contempt for other people's lifestyle with the full support of the ruling elite.

      У yourself at home anyone has the right to demand compliance своих norms. Let me remind you that Muslims in France are visitors. Moreover, IN ALL COUNTRIES where a large diaspora is formed among Muslims, they begin to swing rights.
  10. Baloo
    Baloo 2 November 2020 07: 05
    +4
    Islamic radicalism or the French provocation of the Islamists
    ?
    Is it provocation of the Islamists by the French or because of the Atlantic puddle?
    1. Past the crocodile
      Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 19: 50
      0
      Provocation of Islamists in France. In their countries, forests were brought down, ancient canals were dirtied, Byzantine churches were ennobled with plasterboard, now they decided to tackle Europe. And this bell doesn’t ring for callous and stupid puddles. He calls everyone who doesn't kneel.
  11. Humpty
    Humpty 2 November 2020 07: 15
    +3
    I had a friend. Long gone far. He drew cartoons of all his friends. During his military service, he also drew officers and his vision of some moments of the service. And nothing, no one rushed at him, even kept his drawings.
    So it's definitely not about cartoons, even if they are disgusting in content.
    In China, for example, they try to identify in advance those who might come up with an idea on the basis of religion to grab a knife. The identified persons are sent for forced re-education, where they are trying to make at least some acceptable members of society.
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 15: 34
      +2
      Quote: Humpty
      He drew cartoons of all his friends.

      Caricature caricature strife, one thing is to laugh at a person, another to mock something that is dear to him ...
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 2 November 2020 16: 26
        0
        Quote: EwgenyZ
        Caricature caricature strife

        And what does caricature and murder have to do with it ?! What is the next occasion? They will say that in the fall the leaves are painted yellow and this is a mockery of faith? This is not only about Europe with their nonsense concerns.
        In China, mocking cartoons were not printed, but Islamists in the streets threw themselves at people with knives.
        The Chinese have taken measures. Improved education for a certain category of people and reduced unemployment.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 22: 18
          +1
          Quote: Humpty
          And then cartoons and murders by and large

          And despite the fact that this is a purposeful and regular mockery of "civilized" idiots, in order to show the "barbarians" their superiority. But the trouble is: in every community there are both adequate and inadequate ones, and the latter grab knives, considering themselves insulted, which, in fact, was what the "cartoonists" wanted.
      2. Past the crocodile
        Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 19: 52
        0
        Some places in Munich are dear to some.
  12. V1er
    V1er 2 November 2020 07: 29
    +2
    There is a huge difference between a true believer and a fanatic.

    Fanaticism (Greek φανατισμός, Latin fanatismus from fanaticus "frenzied" ← fanum "sacred place; temple") - blind, unconditional adherence to beliefs, especially in religious, national and political spheres; adherence to any ideas, beliefs or views brought to radicalism, usually combined with intolerance of other people's views and beliefs. Lack of critical perception of their beliefs. The best remedy against fanaticism is culture mind and education in people respect for the human person
  13. Trojan_wolf
    Trojan_wolf 2 November 2020 07: 42
    +6
    How far is God from crazy fanaticism and human stupidity.
  14. Million
    Million 2 November 2020 07: 49
    +5
    Too much religion has become in our life. Let's go back to the Middle Ages.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 2 November 2020 09: 01
      +4
      Quote: Million
      Too much religion has become in our life. Let's go back to the Middle Ages.

      The religious Middle Ages is just the dream of all the oligarchs on the planet ...
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 15: 38
      0
      Quote: Million
      Too much religion has become in our life. Let's go back to the Middle Ages.

      The Middle Ages can also be atheistic, which is now being built by "civilized" mankind, and there is almost no "smell" of religion there.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 2 November 2020 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: Million
      Too much religion has become in our life. Let's go back to the Middle Ages.

      The Bible, the Koran, tolmud, literary and historical cultural monuments of those times, but also a set of moral and ethical norms. That's all. The essence of any religion is belief in these fundamental values ​​for someone. It is not permissible to scoff at this.
  15. Mr.dimadroll
    Mr.dimadroll 2 November 2020 07: 54
    10
    On the one hand: there is no need to scoff at religion, on the other hand, I don’t like how this society treats your values, just go where you came from. You were not invited here, I came myself.
  16. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 2 November 2020 08: 16
    +3
    Someone said, if you want to cut the dough, come up with a religion. Religious extremism today is a new way to make money.
  17. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 2 November 2020 08: 36
    +9
    Will the white man now be able to respond to the radicalization of Islam? Unfortunately, not a fact. So you can go to the minority. If the right-wingers do not undertake to think with their heads and organize themselves despite different views "within the camp", Europe will lose its self-identity.
    1. domokl
      2 November 2020 09: 07
      +1
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      Europe will lose its identity.

      Isn't the rejection of one's own culture, one's own customs, and one's own state in favor of a common European culture a rejection of self-identity? Of course, we can say about the formation of a new people, a common European. But then it will be necessary to recognize the right to enter this concept and those who came to Europe.
      That is, if you dance from your stove, Europe should again fall apart into separate states and self-isolate. Walk the same path as the USSR? ..
      1. BISMARCK94
        BISMARCK94 2 November 2020 09: 35
        +2
        Isn't the rejection of one's own culture, one's own customs, and one's own state in favor of a common European culture a rejection of self-identity?

        I agree that their current government is working in this direction, unfortunately, successfully.
        Of course, we can say about the formation of a new people, a common European. But then it will be necessary to recognize the right to enter this concept and those who came to Europe.

        Why then? There is a newcomer, a newcomer, for the "common Europeans" Europe is their home.
        That is, if you dance from your stove, Europe should again fall apart into separate states and self-isolate. Walk the same path as the USSR? ..

        So Europe is made up of states. The problem is in the policy of changing values. I say that there is hope for the right, who can stop this madness
  18. Eug
    Eug 2 November 2020 08: 45
    +3
    All this takes place within the framework of the corporation's policy of reducing state functions to those necessary for corporations - like suppressing the actions of the disaffected masses, etc. Contradictions are deliberately provoked and exacerbated. A kind of continuation of the policy of Trotskyism, only the export not of revolution, but of ethnic, social, religious contradictions. Moreover, under the pretext of pseudo-freedom, pseudo-tolerance, multiculturalism, non-interference of the state in public life, etc. they are allowed to develop to an "explosive" state.
  19. Boris55
    Boris55 2 November 2020 08: 54
    0
    Quote: BISMARCK94
    Will the white man now be able to respond to the radicalization of Islam? Unfortunately, not a fact.

    The principle of the peaceful existence of various faiths is implemented in Russia and this is a fact.

    Any person should have values, guidelines, based on which he is able to survive in this World. Their destruction leads to the destruction of man and the one who believes in them and the one who destroys them.

    The freedom of some ends where the freedom of others begins and vice versa. Failure to comply with this rule leads to oppression of some by others, which will inevitably lead at first to failureзorders that eventually end in a riot, and if you're lucky, then a revolution.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 2 November 2020 12: 21
      +1
      It is not a fact that Islamists behave in the same way insolently in Russia.
  20. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 2 November 2020 08: 54
    12
    One of the key phrases in this article:
    do not go to someone else's monastery with their own charter

    And the refugees came to Europe with their own charter. But Europe is not their land! They have been living here for a long time according to their own customs and laws. And it doesn't matter if something is unacceptable for Muslims. I don’t like the fact that the Europeans don’t honor Muhammad - go back to Syria, Libya, Bangladesh, in general, where you came from. Is it bad and hungry to live there? Well, YOURSELF do something to make your life better, don't wait for someone to do it for you! Is there a war going on there? Choose a side that suits you and fight for it! There are no eternal wars, any war sooner or later ends in peace. Solve your problems yourself!
    And if you decide to run away from your problems, then keep in mind that wherever you run, you will be there no more than a poor beggar relative with appropriate rights. And, before you download the rights, you must first earn them by bringing the BENEFIT to the land that sheltered you.
    "Charlie" and drew cartoons of Christ. In general, caricatures of Christ in Europe have been known since at least the 19th century. And no one was dragged for them to the Inquisition and to the fire. It's just that in Europe, religious self-identity and claims have long been the tenth thing. With what fright Europe should change this way of life for the sake of Muslims who have come running to them. Which, by the way, NOBODY CALLED TO EUROPE!
    In general, has Allah lost his strength from the appearance of cartoons of Muhammad? In this case, his omnipotence is already in question. And, since he is not omnipotent, is worshiping him worth the lives of other people?
    For Christians now everything is simpler: you can not believe, you can laugh at God, but in the end, THERE you will understand everything, only THERE it will be too late to repent.
    About blasphemy and sacrilege.
    The author forgets that from the point of view of a stubborn Muslim, infidels have no right to exist. They must either be converted to Islam or destroyed.

    That is, the very fact of the existence of infidels for a stubborn Muslim is already "an unheard-of insult, blasphemy and vilification of Islam"! So now I have to bow down to the Muslims, for the fact that they graciously allowed me to live! Aren't they taking on too much ???
    If I am brought into an orthodox Islamic country, it would not occur to me to demand alcohol for myself, and my wife will wear a hijab, if this is their custom. But I have no desire to endure their want on MY land !!! stop soldier
  21. Doccor18
    Doccor18 2 November 2020 08: 58
    +1
    Let's look at the actions of President Macron and the French government.

    AUTHOR:

    What can he do?
    He decided to "bring the troops out into the street" ... And how will these guys in camouflage uniforms and with automatic rifles solve the problem of the country's religious split?
  22. cniza
    cniza 2 November 2020 09: 11
    +1
    While there is no war ... While it is still possible to stop ... Let's look at the actions of President Macron and the French government.


    They do not draw any conclusions and will think that they will carry ...
  23. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 2 November 2020 09: 46
    +5
    In my opinion, religions and radicalization are two different concepts, I think that "radicalization" is a parasite on the idea of ​​faith.
    Any religion is based on the idea of ​​an indisputable belief in a higher power (God), based on the principles of goodness, which are formed by their cultural customs, norms of behavior, habits and customs adopted in the society professing this religion. The basic principles of good, common to all people on the planet: do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not steal, etc.
    What was the difference between the ideas of the Socialist Democrats in the 19th century, or the ideas of the National Socialists of "Nazi Germany" from religion? The adherents of these ideas undeniably and uncompromisingly believed in their principles.
    Has the original principles of these ideas been radicalized? Yes, it was expressed in terror (bombers), revolutions (extermination of class aliens), extermination, in their minds, of the "racially inferior".
    The question is to identify in advance the beneficiaries of this "radicalization". Their followers in the bulk are suggestible, poorly educated, and needy. They perfectly perceive thesis information (slogans). It is enough for the "leader" to point out to them that this is your enemy, all your problems because of him, kill, you will live better ...
  24. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 2 November 2020 09: 55
    -4
    While there is no war ... While it is still possible to stop ... Let's look at the actions of President Macron and the French government.

    What is there to watch? There is a wonderful way. True, he will not stop anything, but a liberal democratic society cannot remain blind and deaf to the aspirations and hopes of Muslims.
  25. Jünger
    Jünger 2 November 2020 10: 12
    +4
    Respect for another's religion is possible, first of all, only in the absence of one's own. And this very absence entails degradation and extinction, since a holy place is never empty.
    There are no principles of your own by which you are ready to really live and, most importantly, for which you are ready to die - be ready to live and die for others.
    And all these blissful stories about friendship of peoples and mutual respect are leftist nonsense. This does not work, life has shown a hundred times already.
  26. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 2 November 2020 10: 26
    10
    The French in France have the right to their culture, traditions, the right to say what they think, draw what they want and live by their own laws. And if you come and you are not satisfied with France, but are satisfied with ISIS, then go to ISIS, you do not need to make it from France.
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 15: 47
      -1
      Quote: Trapp1st
      say what they think, draw what they want and live by their own laws

      The funny thing is that if there were not so many Muslims in France and this "magazine" would not have drawn such cartoons. And so it turns out, somehow, not humanly: first they called / let in, and then they began to insult ...
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 3 November 2020 10: 15
        +1
        if there were not so many Muslims in France and this "magazine" would not draw such cartoons
        In France, religious cartoons have been drawn since feudal times. Caricature in Russia is a funny drawing, in France it is part of their cultural code. With the help of cartoons, palace conspiracies were arranged, fought for public rights, the vices of the elite were exposed and the life of ordinary people was portrayed ... I don't even know what this can be compared with the Russians, maybe something close to ditties.
  27. Victorio
    Victorio 2 November 2020 10: 31
    0
    collided, possibly pushed, two groups of fanatics, one - freedom, the other - faith. modern society has lost its sense of proportion.
  28. Tank hard
    Tank hard 2 November 2020 10: 40
    +3
    This French magazine scoffs at things sacred to many. It's not just religion. These are deaths in some kind of catastrophe. This is famine in some countries. These are the heads of state who clearly do not belong to the French provinces. Tell me, how were the Turks supposed to react to the caricature of Erdogan? Regardless of your political preferences?

    I mean, apparently, the notorious magazine
    Charlie Hebdo

    This magazine was marked by various vile deeds in terms of denigrating Islam, Christianity and various events. But on the other hand, in the fight against anti-simitism, they are ahead of the entire planet. Here is a description of a typical case from the life of this magazine, a very revealing moment:
    On July 2, 2008, Charlie Hebdo magazine published a caricature by 79-year-old artist Cine (English) Russian. (full name - Maurice Sine), a staunch atheist and communist. It claimed that Jean Sarkozy, the son of French President Nicolas Sarkozy, had recently become engaged to the heiress of the Darty household appliance chain. Jessica Sibun-Darti, "an unprincipled opportunist who will go far" [11]. “Jean Sarkozy is a worthy son of his father, he is making a brilliant career, and the court almost awarded him with applause after an accident on the road, when he caused an accident and fled the scene of the crime,” the caption to the picture reported [11]. The artist hinted at the incident on October 14, 2005, when Jean Sarkozy crashed into a BMW on his scooter, after which he fled the scene of the accident. (On September 29, 2008, the court found him not guilty) [12]. The cartoonist summed up that for the sake of a profitable marriage, the president's son is ready to convert to Judaism [11] (Jean's chosen one is Jewish by nationality, and the press fanned rumors that Sarkozy's son intends to change Catholicism to Judaism) [13].

    Philippe Wahl, editor-in-chief of Charlie Hebdo. called this publication "petty and deceitful", demanding that the artist give up the caricature. Sine replied: "I'd rather cut off my eggs!" and was fired on charges of anti-Semitism. The editor-in-chief was also supported by the International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism (English) Russian. Cinet's caricature was criticized by French Culture Minister Christine Albanel, who called the picture "a reflection of ancient prejudices that must disappear once and for all" [11

    In general, the magazine writes nasty articles. For some reason, indignant Muslims are killing believers who are not involved in this (attacks in the church and on an Orthodox priest). And who is in the black?
  29. Garm
    Garm 2 November 2020 10: 53
    +3
    "I came to visit my neighbor, a Tatar, become a Tatar. I came to visit a hunter-idolater, become an idolater. I came to visit an Old Believer, become an Old Believer. Respect someone else's house!" - Very true. So the Europeans decided that the refugees were coming to them to become Europeans. They walked for a long time to their juvenile justice, many sexes of a person (in my opinion, this is fierce nonsense) and are proud of it. And now Europe is beginning to realize that it has become necessary to protect your way of life, from all those millions of refugees who do not care about the values ​​of Europe (it took a long time). In my opinion, the escalation of the conflict is inevitable, since the Islamists, in principle, never planned to assimilate anywhere.
  30. bandabas
    bandabas 2 November 2020 11: 06
    +2
    It was rightly said by Ostap Bender- "How much is opium for the people?"
  31. iouris
    iouris 2 November 2020 11: 07
    0
    And who proved that this is precisely the "provocation of the Islamists"? The "Islamists" are supported by the special services, and the special services are usually engaged in geopolitics.
  32. Selevc
    Selevc 2 November 2020 11: 28
    +1
    There are actually 3 sides to the conflict in the events in France:
    1) Good old Europe - this is a really beautiful facade behind which there is one rot. This side can only do mean things - it has not been capable of more for a long time. This side of the conflict is the weakest, although it looks kind of strong. Representatives - Charlie Hebdo and their sympathizer These people don't really have a temple or a god in their heads - that's why they sow devastation in the heads of others without realizing it !!!
    2) New emerging Islamic European world
    - the side is actually on the rise, but which is in every possible way exposed in a weak light. Representatives are all Muslims in Europe.
    3) French authorities - the side of the conflict is completely decayed and waning - note the situations with insulting the feelings of Muslims in France are similar to each other like two drops of water. From this, the French authorities made absolutely no conclusions - how to legally protect the religious feelings of some from the arbitrariness of the atheism of others !!! That is, the French authorities are actually fighting not with the causes of the conflict, but with its consequences - therefore their efforts are fruitless and will only lead to an escalation of the situation.

    Analyzing all this, we can only say that in the fight against the atheists, the Muslims of Europe will only get stronger, stronger and stronger, antagonism and intolerance will only grow and crimes on religious grounds will only multiply !!!
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 2 November 2020 15: 53
      +1
      Quote: Selevc
      Analyzing all this, we can only say that in the fight against the atheists, the Muslims of Europe will only get stronger, stronger and stronger, antagonism and intolerance will only grow and crimes on religious grounds will only multiply !!!

      And the result is shown in the "Notre Dame Mosque".
  33. canurodes
    canurodes 2 November 2020 11: 35
    0
    Quote: Garm
    Came to visit an idolater hunter, become an idolater.

    And that someone canceled the first commandment
  34. TechPriest
    TechPriest 2 November 2020 11: 38
    -1
    What kind of provocation is this? It’s high time for a new reconquista there.
  35. The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 2 November 2020 12: 00
    -1
    Came to visit a Tatar neighbor, become a Tatar. Came to visit an idolater hunter, become an idolater. Came to visit an Old Believer, become an Old Believer.


    What a cheap twist.
  36. WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 2 November 2020 13: 13
    +4
    The author has written a good article.
    Nevertheless, what prevents you from saying: "I came to France, be French"?
    The caricature tradition of France is quite, shall we say, peculiar, but it is the tradition of a country where you, a refugee who has come in large numbers, pinned yourself, and in fact no one called you.
    I also want to note that no caricatures can offend a real believer, a true believer, but will only cause regret for a lost soul, and a person who plunges his soul more and more into a fiery hyena, exchanging the bliss of his immortal soul for a drawn vulgarity.
    If we are talking about radicalism, then the point is not at all about cartoons - this is just an excuse for nothing more. The point is the struggle of smart, cunning and unprincipled non-people for power, for money and for influence by the hands of poorly educated and easily inspired human larvae.
    Radical, no matter what - political or religious: "... he is a true and devoted fan of retro style, always accustomed to looking for the truth in someone else's fault."
    The radical who cuts off the head of the unfortunate teacher, or shoots people with a machine gun, does not get closer to God, rather, on the contrary - with every knife blow and every bullet fired, he brings himself closer to the very last circle of Hell.
    I think so.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 2 November 2020 16: 44
      0
      Quote: WayKhe Thuo
      The author has written a good article.
      Nevertheless, what prevents you from saying: "I came to France, be French"?

      The point is that if earlier various conquerors changed the power of the conquered countries, now the peoples of Western Europe themselves are quietly and imperceptibly changing !!!
      Good old France, which has turned into atheists surrounded by bliss and debauchery, is fading, eroded and reduced in number. New strong French Muslims purposefully develop and multiply in numbers without mixing with the local culture - that is, becoming an increasingly numerous alien enclave in the country !!!
      Today there are just a lot of Muslims in France, tomorrow there will be 25-30% of the population, the day after tomorrow there will be about half of them. And their influence in the country will only grow !!! And they will not be French - they will be Muslims of France !!!

      The French authorities cannot do anything about it and are not able to somehow influence all these processes !!!
      Macron can only say one thing - Monsieur President enjoy the democracy that you and people like you have been building for decades in your country !!!

      What is happening in France, Belgium, Germany is colonization only with the opposite sign !!! The descendants of the victims of colonization in 100 years take revenge on the descendants of the colonialists !!!
      1. Past the crocodile
        Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 23: 33
        +1
        Quote: Selevc
        The descendants of the victims of colonization in 100 years take revenge on the descendants of the colonialists !!!

        Yeah. They take revenge for railways and highways, schools and medical centers, for the eradication of cannibalism and sleeping sickness. But without rotten colonialists, Tajikistan rose up, (o) Zimbabwe rose.
  37. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 November 2020 13: 21
    +1
    The answer is simple. For thirty years after the collapse of the USSR, Western politics and diplomacy degenerated. The USSR kept them constantly in good shape, this applies to the Gorbachev times. The "winners" were at their disposal. They felt themselves immortal. Here is the result, you have to think and listen to other people's opinions. as a marker of politics and diplomacy in the West, one with the grandmother to live, the other to manage the world. There are two big differences.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 2 November 2020 17: 01
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Macron as a marker of politics and diplomacy in the West, one to live with a grandmother, another to rule the world.

      That's the whole point and the funny thing is that Macron, by their standards, is a normal Frenchman - among the nation of vegetables, a typical vegetable !!!

      Look who are famous Muslims now, even in Western Europe, even in Russia, even in the Middle East? - these are either spiritual leaders, or rebels (terror is also a kind of rebellion), or famous athletes (fighters, boxers ...), or the military - that is, the Muslim world is clearly on the rise !!!
      And who are the famous, fashionable types of Europeans ??? Conchita Wurst ??? Sobchak ??? Zverev ??? Complete trash !!!

      In Europe, something is happening that has happened many times already - weakness cannot control power - but for some reason it always tries to do it !!!
  38. HaByxoDaBHocep
    HaByxoDaBHocep 2 November 2020 13: 22
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    Who has not read, read at your leisure a book - "Notre Dame Mosque" by Chudinova. E., described approximately what is happening in Europe.
  39. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 2 November 2020 13: 24
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    hiWho is organizing the riots in Poland ???
    There is a connection with the riots in Poland over the prohibition of abortion, even for clinical reasons.
    Well, at least someone covered the events ... wassat
    The actions covered all major cities in Poland. The police acted harshly, batons and tear gas were used - official Warsaw did exactly what Minsk reproached. The protest now has its own symbol - a red lightning - and leaders who are already talking directly about the ultimate goal of the rallies - a change of government.
    In the capital of Poland, a rally against the ban on abortion escalated into riots. About 100 thousand people took to the streets of Warsaw. What requirements did they put forward?

    Fireworks, smoke bombs and tear gas: nationalists rush into the crowd of protesters in the center of Warsaw. A short scuffle, several arrests - and the column of protesters against the ban on abortion continues to march through the city.
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 2 November 2020 13: 38
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      A year ago, he predicted riots in Poland, no one believed, and now there is silence ... wassat
  40. Alex66
    Alex66 2 November 2020 13: 28
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    Maybe I'm wrong, but the native Europeans don't want to fight, they are replaced by those who are ready for war, but you probably guessed who is the enemy of the new Europe - Russia, not China, it is far away. At the same time, fifth columns of co-religionists are being brought into the large cities of Russia, so that in the near future we will face both an external (as soon as the power in Europe changes) and an internal threat, and maybe a direct attack. I don’t understand why Putin and the government support emigration.
    1. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 2 November 2020 13: 52
      +1
      Quote: Alex66
      Maybe I'm wrong, but the native Europeans don't want to fight, they are replaced by those who are ready for war, but you probably guessed who is the enemy of the new Europe - Russia, not China, it is far away. At the same time, fifth columns of co-religionists are being brought into the large cities of Russia, so that in the near future we will face both an external (as soon as the power in Europe changes) and an internal threat, and maybe a direct attack. I don’t understand why Putin and the government support emigration.

      To crush civilians on the streets of European cities with cars, cut pedestrians on the same streets, rape European women is one thing, the punishment is a prison (not Asian). It is one thing to create an IS based on the Iraqi military personnel, to conduct a database on the territory of Iraq and Syria. But, at the present time, "to declare a jihad on Russia, China or India" probably think that the time has not come, and it is fatal.
      But the idea of ​​"radical spiritual leaders" of creating the Maghreb 2.0 (a country at sunset) hovers in their minds: settling Europe; preservation of their customs; obtaining representation in the executive and legislative branches of European countries; introduction (conversion) of Europeans into their faith.
      Whether Russia will be the enemy of the new Islamic Europe is a controversial issue ... Perhaps the relationship will be similar to the contemporary in the Islamic world.
  41. Scipio
    Scipio 2 November 2020 15: 20
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    Sooner or later, you always have to pay off your debts. All these refugees from colonial countries. They are taking what the French have taken from their country for centuries. Europe is already too weak to fight back. Very soon in Europe, the indigenous population will not decide much ..... In fact, Europe will face a sad outcome. I think many Europeans will leave for the New World over time.
    1. Past the crocodile
      Past the crocodile 2 November 2020 23: 21
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      And over 150 years of colonialism, how much has Europe "taken" from conventional Algeria or Yemen conventional olives-orange? More precisely than the Moors from Spain and Italy in the 200 years of the Cordoba Caliphate?
  42. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 November 2020 16: 01
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    Why does modern man believe in the modern version of religion?
    Well, certainly not for those "reasons" simplified to the plane, which the author stated. As for thinking in the article ... The idea is presented by the author approximately as follows - the USSR managed somehow. Let's do it and we'll manage it like that. How it is "somehow" the author does not know, and does not want to know. Just go ahead.
    We will not give it, because we do not know what you need, author! And you don't know. And in Europe they do not know ... or rather they do, but the recipes do not suit them. It would be worth starting here with why people who are not seriously believers still lean against some kind of religion. Although the question was asked by the author correctly, thanks for that.
    This happens because the question of the crumbs "what is good and what is bad" must be answered. Moreover, the crumb also needs confidence that there are people around her who understand well and badly, just like her. You can't live otherwise. Religion gives harmonious and proven answers for millennia. Live according to the commanded, if it does not work out at all, then at least strive to live like this, and then you and the people around you will not be lost. This is the main role of religions in the world. And not at all a belief in something indefinite, as the author thinks. They say a person needs to believe a dirty sock knows what, and then everything will be fine. Damn burnt ...
    The gods described by religions believe that this is good and that is bad, and they threaten the children with punishment, depending on the fantasy of the priests. For adults, who have managed to grow up (for example, the author, for example, is five years old, and remains, and will die at the age of six), it becomes clear a simple thing - they helped us see the world as it is worth making it. Even if it does not work, but it is necessary to go in that direction.
    The gods are different. And the world is seen by adherents of different religions in different ways. Well, okay, you just need to understand what to expect from a Muslim and what not to. Or from a Christian. Or from a Buddhist. From this and it is worth dancing. Alas, the Western project does not want people to have any moral principles at all. A strong personality rests on these attitudes. And the West does not need strong personalities, they only need slaves. We are weak, dependent and suggestible. Parishioners of the pasta monster ...
  43. igorra
    igorra 2 November 2020 16: 54
    +1
    With our chief chief and his tolerance, we also have a sip. Everything was taken away from the Russians, including the name of the state that they founded, so the church is rather Russian, not Russian. The Armenians have their own, the Greeks have their own, even the Georgians and all sorts of Albanians, you will not believe, also have their own, but our name seems to be Russian, but the chief interferes with the dirt of the history of Russians and calls the ancestors of the Russians - barbarians. Can then rename the ROC in the PC of Russia. Ato as with the Communists from the Communist Party, like the Reds and Lenin and Marx hang on the chest, and dig deeper - cosmopolitans and small-scale shopkeepers with the stigma of Judas.
  44. Smirnoff
    Smirnoff 2 November 2020 19: 06
    15
    Considering how much the French brought from the colonies of Muslims, then there is nothing surprising in what is happening.
  45. certero
    certero 3 November 2020 02: 33
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    A man who cuts off his head in response to a cartoon ...
    Somehow they do not really fit into modern concepts of how to do the right thing.
    By the way, the argument that those who drew cartoons are to blame is akin to accusing a girl in a short skirt that she was raped. She herself is to blame.
    Or that he himself had nothing to blame, there was nothing to buy an expensive phone, so he was robbed.
    And yes, cartoons, like the magazine itself, are full of crap. But that in no way can justify the killers
  46. Bat039
    Bat039 5 November 2020 23: 09
    +4
    Whatever it was, but as for me, it is the migrants who must adapt to the country of residence, and not the country to them, and if they don’t like something, then the Suitcase, the Station, the Historical Homeland !!! Why, arriving in the United Arab Emirates, you cannot walk in shorts, while migrants arriving in Europe think that they can walk in their robes and pump their driver's license ?! You have beguiled the Ramses, gentlemen! You are not at home here and do not forget that you are visiting! Even being born in a foreign country does not make you its masters, just as a mouse born in a stable does not become a horse !!!
  47. xomaNN
    xomaNN 8 November 2020 20: 33
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    Well, in France it is definitely not like in the USSR there was a "multinational community - the Soviet people" wassat
    And while the USSR was alive, all the Nazis of all coloring pages were kept within. Well, as the Union fell down, so did the bonds fall ...