Azerbaijan refutes statements about strikes on the territory of Armenia and shows the elimination of the Armenian "DRG"

It is necessary to state the fact that Armenian information sources have increased the number of messages in which it is reported about the shelling of the territory of the Republic of Armenia directly by the enemy. It is noteworthy that these publications became more frequent against the backdrop of sending a letter on behalf of the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan to Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which he actually requested assistance from the Russian Federation. The Russian Foreign Ministry, commenting on the appeal, notes that Russia, by virtue of the CSTO charter, will provide all the necessary assistance to Armenia if the threat comes directly to its territory. Thus, Moscow once again made it clear that the Russian Federation does not intend to get involved in a conflict that is going on outside the internationally recognized borders of the Republic of Armenia.

Azerbaijan presented its commentary on accusations by Armenian sources in shelling the territory of Armenia.

The statement of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan says that all these accusations have no real basis and are not true.

From the messages of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

The information about the shelling of the Armenian territory does not correspond to reality and is another provocation of the enemy.

The information spread by the Armenian side about the alleged shelling of the village of David Bek near the Armenian city of Gafan from the territory of the Gubadli region of Azerbaijan, as a result of which there are wounded and a lot of destruction, is a lie and another provocation.
It was added that the Armenian side is using firing points in the Gubadli sector of the border to continue shelling the villages of this region and the positions of Azerbaijani troops.

Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

Only within our borders did we take adequate actions against these enemy firing points.

Added that Azerbaijan has no military target on the territory of the Republic of Armenia.

At the same time, the message of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan states that the sabotage and reconnaissance group (DRG) of the Armenian special forces tried to approach the positions of their troops.

The network posted footage of strikes against the Armenian forces, which Azerbaijan designated as "DRG".

Comments

[saigon]

In a word, both sides lie little by little and believe in themselves, believe in truth and create stories of folk art.

[Insurgent]

Quote: saigon

In a word, both sides lie little by little and believe in themselves, believe in truth and create stories of folk art.

Whatever it was, DRG or not, and video recording of the defeat of manpower and vehicles is, which suggests that using modern high-precision reconnaissance and destruction systems, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces largely control the situation on the ground from the air ...
And the NKR was simply not ready for such an unfavorable turn in the course of the war, having practically no modern means of counteraction.
The same, apparently, can be said about the Armed Forces of Armenia, the leadership of which, instead of preparing for war, ran with a backpack around the squares-Maidans ...

Here comes the turn ...

April 2019 video. Much has been said about various Armenian UAVs, but nothing has been done ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Insurgent

Much has been said about various Armenian UAVs, but nothing has been done ...

Where is it all? Why is the sky in NKR "crammed" exclusively with Azerbaijani UAVs?

[saigon]

Why is the sky filled with Azerbaijani UAVs because they exist and that the presence of the UAV guarantees against lies?
Maybe still come down from the skies and pay attention, I wrote about lies, the wild trend of war participants on both sides.
He wrote about the fact that at the moment folk and official art in the field of hanging noodles on the ears has no boundaries and that now, right at the moment, BLINKS are being created (this is fundamentally different from epics).

[Tatyana]

Quote: saigon

In a word, both sides lie little by little and believe in themselves, believe in truth and create stories of folk art.

Both sides will not sit at the armistice negotiating table! Erdogan Aliyev will not allow it!
The victory is close and 2/3 belongs to the Turkish "sultan" Erdogan. Wherein Erdagan you need to cut it WORLD recognition of the LEGITIMITY of Turkey's military presence in Azerbaijan!

And the fact that the shelling of the territory of Armenia itself is really being conducted from the territory of Azerbaijan, so it has already flown into the territory of Iran dozens of times from the territory of Azerbaijan! What Iran officially announced to Azerbaijan with a warning about retaliatory measures from Iran and strengthened the protection of its borders.
Therefore, one should not think that Armenia is just slandering Azerbaijan.

Moreover, the situation resembles the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the same Donbass against the DLNR.
The Nazis in the ranks of the Armed Forces did not observe any truce in the ATO, they do not and will not observe! And no president of Ukraine is in a position to control the actions of military formations - and even more so Bandera bandits and Ukrainian nationalists - in the places of the contact line of fire! All orders of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zelensky are not respected on the ground and turn into a pro forma on the ground, like a political smoke screen.

That is why - by analogy with Ukraine - I personally believe that Aliyev does not control the situation at the front.
Namely, the situation on the fronts between Armenians and Azerbaijanis is 2/3 owned by Erdogan with his Turkish military specialists in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and ISIS mercenaries from Idlib on the battlefield.

I cite below, as an example, a video of a conversation between nationalists and Zelensky on the Donetsk front. Since the video is old, it is therefore historically "sour" - i.e. not justified - the blogger's predictions about Zelensky do not need to be paid attention!

Zelensky to a soldier in Donbass: “Take away your weapon, I said!” • 26 oct. 2019 IN BLOGER COMMENTS

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Hello Dear!

Quote: Tatiana

Both sides will not sit at the armistice negotiating table! Erdogan Aliyev will not allow it

With your permission, I dare to correct.
It seems to me that Uv. Members of the forum have forgotten whose offspring Aliev Jr.
Perhaps he uses Erdogan for his selfish purposes !?

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Tatiana

At the same time, Erdagan needs the WORLD recognition of the LEGITIMITY of Turkey's military presence in Azerbaijan.

Possible.
But Aliyev Jr. will not give up absolute power for any goodies.
Please do not forget the "little" nuance - the interests of the Russian Federation!
Aliyev Jr. in this situation, it will not compromise the interests of the Russian Federation.

[Tatyana]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Aliyev Jr. in this situation, it will not compromise the interests of the Russian Federation.

This grandmother said for two! Will itch-and go against the Russian Federation on the side of Erdogan! Aliyev owes Erdogan for his contribution to the victory over the Armenians. Aliyev learns terrorism from Erdogan.
Uncontrolled absolute power of people spoils, corrupts - and they change, are reborn and become completely different. They believe that he should not serve for the people and his country, but the people and the country exist for his beloved.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Tatiana

This grandmother said for two!

Possible.

Quote: Tatiana

Will itch - and go against the Russian Federation on the side of Erdogan!

He won't dare. He is still a pragmatist and is fully aware of how this will turn out for him.

Quote: Tatiana

Aliyev owes Erdogan for his contribution to the victory over the Armenians.

Correctly noticed.

Quote: Tatiana

Aliyev learns from Erdogan

Here Dear, I bet. It is not yet known who will teach whom the lesson of Life.
Do not forget whose son He is and who is his Father.

Quote: Tatiana

Uncontrolled absolute power of people spoils, corrupts - and they change, are reborn and become completely different.

To her GOD! Here it is difficult for you to oppose something as an argument.

[Tatyana]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Quote: Tatiana
Will itch - and go against the Russian Federation on the side of Erdogan!

He won't dare. He is still a pragmatist and is fully aware of how this will turn out for him.

Alas, as they say, there is a hole in the old woman!

Even an experienced person can sometimes make a mistake, do something stupid, blunder, blunder, etc. And a person who has believed in himself - and even more so!
Moreover, many decisions of the leader depend on the environment of the leader himself and the presence of mercenary manipulators-advisers around him. For with whom you lead - and that you will gain!

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Tatiana

Even an experienced person can sometimes make a mistake, do something stupid, blunder, blunder, etc. And a person who has believed in himself - and even more so!

I don’t even dare to question your conclusion.
Another thing is Power!
For Aliyev Jr., at least at stake is to retain Power and make a successful "transfer" to the Vice President (temporarily, of course).
Mehriban Khanum, with all her perspicacity and foresight, is not the Person for Azerbaijan who managed to keep the Power and be able to play on the contradictions of Azerbaijan's elites and hold out.
She is an intermediate link in the ultimate Goal-son of Aliyev Jr.
This is for whom the Father prepares the succession of Power.
For this, He removed from the path possible "competitors" Ramiz Mehdiyev, Ravil Usubov and K *.
By the way, the security forces were guided by the Russian Federation.
Aliyev Jr. made his choice.
The Pashayev clan!

[Tatyana]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

For Aliyev Jr., at least at stake is to retain Power and make a successful "transfer" to the Vice President (temporarily, of course).

Yes, that's right. Namely.

I, of course, do not know all the vicissitudes and details of the struggle of the Azerbaijani elites at the top among themselves for power in Azerbaijan.
However, it is already known that for the upcoming presidential elections in Azerbaijan, the opposition is preparing for mass protests with non-recognition of the legitimacy of the election results if Aliyev wins the presidential election again.
The main argument for the discontent of the Azerbaijani opposition is like now in Belarus in relation to Lukashenka - namely, that the Aliyevs have been in power for too long at the top. And that it is time for Aliyev to vacate the presidency for others.
And the opposition's main trump claim against Aliyev - this is what under him, Azerbaijan did not regain Nagorny Karabakh from the Armenians.

A similar situation in the upcoming presidential elections and Erdogan in Turkey.

Both leaders need a LITTLE VICTORY WAR to raise their own political prestige in the eyes of the people as an electoral electorate.

So they both - Aliyev and Erdogan - on this basis of the struggle for power in their countries and sang with each other.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Tatiana

However, it is already known that for the upcoming presidential elections in Azerbaijan, the opposition is preparing for mass protests with non-recognition of the legitimacy of the election results if Aliyev wins the presidential election again.

Dear!
Here, under this statement, even though nailed, I disagree.
I will explain.
If earlier the opposition gathered thousands if not tens of thousands of its supporters, now even 40 people cannot gather for a picket.
I’ll tell you the Punchinelle secret.
The opposition has Az. on the backstage level, very good relations with the authorities. structure Am. In any case, it was.
Now, admit Aliyev, because of his successes at the front, without exaggeration, is wildly popular with the Az people.
And this is at least the loss of the protest base and opposition supporters. The opposition is walking with boiling water out of indignation that Am is an unwitting "sponsor".
If I were you (sorry for the impudence), I would not feel euphoric about the opposition's likely success.
I think for most Uv. Members of the forum are not a secret that the opposition in Az. stands on the nationalist basis laid down by Elchibey!
So Dear, let it be better Aliyev than the pan-Turkist-minded nationalist opposition.

[Tatyana]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Now, admit Aliyev, because of his successes at the front, without exaggeration, is wildly popular with the Az people.
And this is at least the loss of the protest base and opposition supporters. The opposition is walking with boiling water out of indignation that Am is an unwitting "sponsor".

Well, I’m telling you the same thing! That Aliyev, in terms of starting a war with the NKR, worked ahead of the curve in relation to his own nationalist opposition in his country in the struggle for power! But with the help of whom did Aliyev do it?
And Aliyev did this thanks to the personal support of the Ottoman and radical, moreover, the religious Islamist-nationalist Erdogan in alliance with Turkey. So why would the nationalists in Azerbaijan be against Aliyev because of the victory over the NKR? Of course they won't. But again, this is temporary. "Sorosyats" will not stop in Azerbaijan anyway. Therefore, Erdogan and Aliyev will continue to tighten the screws in Azerbaijan.

At the same time, Erdogan used proxy Azerbaijan and Aliyev himself in his own interests, and Erdogan will not stop there. Aliyev will go to Erdogan with his "Great Turan" in vassals with all the ensuing consequences for Azerbaijan.

[Yujanin]

Where is it all? Why is the sky in NKR "crammed" exclusively with Azerbaijani UAVs?

Fill in - do not roll with bags!

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Insurgent

Where is it all? Why is the sky in NKR "crammed" exclusively with Azerbaijani UAVs?

maybe because the sky over the NKR is the sky of Azerbaijan? maybe because Azerbaijan did not declare war on Armenia and Armenia did not declare war on Azerbaijan? maybe this is the reason why Armenia is very limited in funds for this theater of operations, while Azerbaijan can act without hesitation?

[Generator Systems]

This is politics, there is no place for faith

[zxc15682]

You want to see the enemy and spit in the face ... But instead a rocket arrives. Here it is modern war.

[LiSiCyn]

Y-yes ... No chance at all. Only bad weather and low clouds (fog) will save the Armenians. Otherwise, "dry the oars". Drain Karabakh.

[Insurgent]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Y-yes ... No chance at all. Only bad weather and low clouds (fog) will save the Armenians.

"Beating up babies", more precisely unreasonable babies who, having financial and other opportunities, and most importantly TIME in "interwar period", turned out to be totally unprepared for such a massive use of attack UAVs, kamikaze drones and high-precision missile systems.

I think that to Pashinyan, the citizens of NKR and Armenia will have a number of questions ...

[Oleg123219307]

Quote: Insurgent

I think that to Pashinyan, the citizens of NKR and Armenia will have a number of questions ...

As you poetically call the execution, by being torn to pieces alive by the crowd in the central square ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: oleg123219307

As you poetically call the execution, by being torn to pieces alive by the crowd in the central square ...

I try to be restrained and impartial, especially since it is up to the Armenians how and from whom to ask ...

[saigon]

Mr. General, forgive me, besides the beating, there is one more moment, probably not obvious, but it is.
Having such superiority, not a single real breakthrough can be made, in a month, in principle, we have passed, let's say, the support band and interferences are observed in some areas without decisive results.
True, if you believe the summaries, victory is not far off (for which ones it is not indicated), but there are enough mountains and armor will not go everywhere and now we need to shove into the intersection. In a word, while it is worth waiting for the blitzkrieg while it slips.
Well, the light belief that by taking Latchi all communication with Armenia is cut off.

[Vadim237]

It will not save them - neither from Spikes, nor from shock drones, nor from kamikaze drones - the latter will simply fly below the air defense of the NKR, they will no longer be in danger even at low altitudes.

[LiSiCyn]

Have you been in the mountains? And in bad weather? Clouds sometimes set like this, only at the bottom of the gorge there is visibility. The operator dives, and there is a tree or a rock ... The efficiency of the UAV will decrease significantly. And conducting high-altitude reconnaissance will become practically unrealistic.

[Vadim237]

Unmanned aerial vehicles can fly low there too - they will simply adjust the fire of artillery and will cover the mountains in squares, plus use shells with white phosphorus to burn mountain forest areas.

[Maki maki]

DRGs go on foot, clump together ... Maybe they haven't heard about UAVs there?

[Dimon71]

So it was not the DRG was, but the militias !!!

[Observer2014]

Azerbaijan refutes statements about strikes on the territory of Armenia and shows the elimination of the Armenian "DRG"

Naturally, Armenia will go out of its way to drag Russia into the war. Even at the level of a military unit. The closer the Azerbaijani army approaches the border with Armenia, the more often such a situation will arise. And the Armenian units will take full advantage of this advantage. And the video is allowance what happens in modern war when you lose air supremacy.

[Dimon71]

I wonder why everything that I don’t write. Writes what contains the words prohibited for publication

[Tugarin]

Quote: Dimon71

I wonder why everything that I don’t write. Writes what contains the words prohibited for publication

Maybe you have emotions over the edge, and your subconscious mind gives out surprises?

[Maki maki]

"I don't swear, I speak it!"

[huntsman650]

You draw a drawing, and shade a little ...

[rotmistr60]

Mutual accusations and victorious reports of one of the parties against the background of the death of people, incl. civilians are already fed up with the order during this time. It would be better not to pound the heel on the chest, but finally sat down to negotiate.

[Tatyana]

Quote: rotmistr60

It would be better not to pound the heel on the chest, and finally sat down to negotiate.

They won't sit down! Erdogan will not allow Aliyev! Victory is close and 2/3 belongs to the Turkish "sultan" Erdogan. Erdagan desperately needs world recognition of Turkey's presence in Azerbaijan!

And the fact that the shelling of the territory of Armenia itself is really being conducted from the territory of Azerbaijan, so it has already flown into the territory of Iran dozens of times from the territory of Azerbaijan! What Iran officially announced to Azerbaijan with a warning about retaliatory measures from Iran and strengthened the protection of its borders.
Therefore, one should not think that Armenia is just slandering Azerbaijan.

Moreover, the situation resembles the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the same Donbass. The Nazis in the ranks of the Armed Forces did not observe any truce in the ATO they did not observe, they do not observe and will not observe! And no president of Ukraine is able to control the actions of the military - and even more so the Bandera bandits - at the places of the contact line of fire! All orders of the commander-in-chief of Ukraine on the ground are not respected and turn into a pro forma, like a smokescreen.

That is why - by analogy with Ukraine - I personally believe that Aliyev does not control the situation at the front.
The situation on the fronts between Armenians and Azerbaijanis is 2/3 owned by Erdogan with his Turkish military specialists in the General Staff of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces and ISIS mercenaries from Idlib on the battlefield.

I cite as an example a video of a conversation between nationalists and Zelensky on the Donetsk front below. Since the video is old, it is therefore historically "sour" - i.e. not justified - the blogger's predictions about Zelensky do not need to be paid attention!

Zelensky to a soldier in Donbass: “Take away your weapon, I said!” • 26 oct. 2019 IN BLOGER COMMENTS

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

They won't sit down! Erdogan will not allow Aliyev!

Why two?
Azerbaijan is definitely winning - why should it stop?

Quote: Tatiana

The situation on the fronts between Armenians and Azerbaijanis is 2/3 owned by Erdogan with his Turkish military specialists in the General Staff of the Armed Forces

Do they report directly to you?

Quote: Tatiana

Moreover, the situation resembles the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the same Donbass.

Do not pull the owl onto the globe.
Armenia is an occupier in this war, Azerbaijan liberates its land.

Quote: Tatiana

Zelensky to a soldier in Donbass: "Take away your weapon, I said!"

Why are you here (in the commentary) Stalin not glued to anything? Not order, the spirit of Stalin will remove -100 from your karma.

[Tatyana]

Your Israeli interest, Atalef, in Israel's support for the Turkish "Sultan" Erdogan's policy on Turkey in the BV and in Azerbaijan in the South Caucasus is quite understandable!
As Israel bought up Syrian oil stolen by ISIS in the SAR in Turkey, so now Israel will buy for free - thanks to Turkey - oil in Azerbaijan.

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

Your Israeli interest, Atalef, in Israel's support for the Turkish "Sultan" Erdogan's policy on Turkey in the BV and in Azerbaijan in the South Caucasus is quite understandable!

what is clear? Erdogan is definitely an enemy of Israel

Quote: Tatiana

As Israel bought up Syrian oil stolen by ISIS in the SAR in Turkey, so now Israel will buy for free - thanks to Turkey - oil in Azerbaijan.

Tatyana, you are a complete layman (pretending to be an expert) / Not knowing basic things

Normalization of relations with the UAE will contribute to Israel's energy security by forming a real alternative for oil supplies to Israeli ports.
The UAE is the fourth in terms of oil production among the OPEC countries and Israel will be able to purchase up to 300 thousand barrels of oil per day from the Emirates through the port of Eilat in the south of the country.
The needs of the Israeli economy in oil are estimated today at 236 barrels per day, while the Israeli companies themselves produce only 249 barrels of black gold per day.
Tel Aviv currently buys most of its oil from Russia and Azerbaijan.

[Tatyana]

Quote: atalef

Erdogan is definitely an enemy of Israel

Something from your personal comments is not noticeable.

Quote: atalef

Normalization of relations with the UAE will contribute to Israel's energy security by forming a real alternative for oil supplies to Israeli ports.
The UAE is the fourth in terms of oil production among the OPEC countries and Israel will be able to purchase up to 300 thousand barrels of oil per day from the Emirates through the port of Eilat in the south of the country.
The needs of the Israeli economy in oil are estimated today at 236 barrels per day, while the Israeli companies themselves produce only 249 barrels of black gold per day.
Most of the oil Tel Aviv currently buys from Russia and Azerbaijan.

We remember, we remember how Nothing prevented Israel, under ISIS rule in Syria, from buying stolen Syrian oil through Turkey from ISIS, one can say almost directly through shell companies, and then engage in its resale to other countries.
We have already talked about this topic and condemned it a few years ago.

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

We have already talked about this topic and condemned it a few years ago.

discussed? What can be discussed in this product of your fevered imagination?

[Konnick]

It is urgent for our budget saws to develop invisible armored vehicles, otherwise armored vehicles with mine blast protection are no longer relevant.

For reference, this is sarcasm.

[amaleks]

Russia, by virtue of the CSTO charter, will provide all the necessary assistance to Armenia, if the threat comes directly to its territory.

Now they will definitely climb, because all this was conceived with the aim of dragging Russia into the conflict.
They will put Azerbaijan under attack, I can feel it ..

[Maki maki]

First, you need to prove that the blow fell on Armenia, and not on Karabakh.

[NTD]

Quote: Maki Maki

First, you need to prove that the blow fell on Armenia, and not on Karabakh.

And also to prove that this is not a retaliation. For if Armenia is the first to fire on Azerbaijan, 100% will be the answer in the most severe form. And Russia will definitely not help them.

[Alexander Kopychev]

What if the "insidious" Azerbaijani shell explodes on the territory of the NKR, and the "poisonous" fragments fly into the sovereign state of Armenia? Is it already considered? Border battles are so ...

[Kerensky]

Now they will definitely climb, because all this was conceived with the aim of dragging Russia into the conflict.

The CSTO is not only Russia. There is an activation procedure. It is necessary to submit a package of documents to the CSTO secretariat (which was not done), and not write to Putin.

[Maki maki]

Quote: Kerensky

The CSTO is not only Russia. There is an activation procedure. It is necessary to submit a package of documents to the CSTO secretariat

In short, the red tape is still the same ...

[FORCE 38GB]

Yes .. simply put, until they ask, while they study, they consider, they argue, they agree, they approve and report ... During this time, two or three regiments will go into the meat grinder ..

[Kerensky]

in other words, while they ask, while they study, consider, argue, agree, approve and report.

The CSTO has 6 countries. Maybe they want to drag Kyrgyzstan into the war? That Russia immediately!

[Whirlwind]

Pashinyan is a US puppet, trying with all his might to fulfill the assignment of his American masters and bring Russia into a new war in the Transcaucasus. This provocateur has no other tasks!

[saigon]

Well, there are a lot of opportunities for Mr. Pashinyan in this matter of drawing in opportunities, but they won't throw vegetables through hell?
Chel said and did a lot, hi now hopes for omerik.

[Whirlwind]

This provocateur caught on to the CSTO, which still includes Armenia. In case of EXTERNAL aggression of Armenia on its territory, Russia is obliged to help in repelling it. So Pashinyan is trying to organize such aggression of Azerbaijan with all his blades, so that Russia would come to the war. This is what is required according to the plans of the main provocateur and organizer of the war - the United States.

[saigon]

And that columns of Azerbaijani tanks are crushing the roads of Armenia with clanking armor?
Well, how can he organize something, he will give the order to the Azerbaijani troops to attack Armenia, is he an Azerbaijani president?
The character does not have any opportunities to organize something,

[Whirlwind]

And who is dripping on Putin's brain? Pashinyan. It is clear that the Americans are twisting Pashinyan, but they are twisting the Syrian militants brought to Azerbaijan. And those may well arrange shelling of Armenia. Pashinyan's case is to immediately call Putin and press on Russia's obligation under the CSTO, to protect Armenia from external aggression, i.e. come to the war and get bogged down in it to the delight of the main provocateur - the United States.

[Kerensky]

In the event of an EXTERNAL aggression by Armenia on its territory, Russia is obliged to help in repelling it. So Pashinyan is trying to organize such aggression of Azerbaijan with all his blades, so that Russia would come to the war.

I repeat, there are 6 countries in the CSTO. If Armenia is offended, then the rest must come to the war. 5. Why is nobody interested in this?

[Whirlwind]

Only Russia has a truly combat-ready army, the rest will only help if they do not interfere when the United States puts pressure on ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Kerensky

I repeat, there are 6 countries in the CSTO. If Armenia is offended, then the remaining 5 should come to the war.

so yes, but Pashinyan is calling Putin

[Kerensky]

but Pashinyan is calling Putin

Maybe call me too, but what's the point?
There is the chairman of the CSTO secretariat, and he needs to call. Or did he check the number with Putin? I wrote it down on a piece of paper, but I lost it.
It's like calling the attorney at home, but the wrong bird droppings!
"Come during working hours with your documents."
http://www.dkb.gov.ru/f/cza.htm

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Kerensky

There is the chairman of the CSTO secretariat, and he needs to call.

who cares? what is there what will be sent and then you can write in sports lotto!
fit in for Armenia to squeeze a part of the territory from Azerbaijan in order to preserve the indirect influence of Armenia there? not nobody needs it. well, of course, except for Armenia, which itself is not ready to act as an aggressor.

[Kerensky]

who cares? what is there what will be sent

Likewise, peacekeepers operate on the basis of a UN mandate. You also need to submit documents.

[Cheldon]

Quote: saigon

Chel said and did a lot, hi now hopes for omerik.

Just omerik may be in surplus: having landed specialists in Karabakh under the pretext of protecting the local population, they receive a base + a grateful population. The multi-port is visible.

[saigon]

Just like that, Azerbaijan needed them there with its specialists, but there their specialists did not bother with anyone.
Let's all the same be realistic.

[Hello from Baku]

[quote = saigon
Well, the light belief that by taking Latchi all communication with Armenia is cut off. [/ Quote]
Do not be surprised, there are no other roads, except for this and the northern one, which is not under fire.
Maybe there is an underground tunnel from Armenia to Karabakh, through which troops can be supplied? Or mountain paths on donkeys through the Kelbajar mountains?

[FORCE 38GB]

Yes, in fact, Armenia has already lost this war .. and with a bang .. The capture of Shushi and Stepanakert is a matter of time. But Pashinyan, in an amicable way, should be thrown out of the country, until the evacuated people of Karabakh and the embittered Armenian military were hanged on a pole in the center of Yerevan or thrown into the crowd to be torn apart! It seems that no one has ever done more harm to Armenia .. Russia spat in our face, and now whines help ..

[atalef]

[/ quote] [quote = FORCE 38RUS] But Pashinyan, in an amicable way, should be brought down from the country, until the evacuated people of Karabakh and the embittered Armenian military hung on a pole

Military?
Doesn't he let them fight?
In my opinion, the people should hang the military and
the former leadership, or does someone think that Pashinyan has fallen apart in a year like that that his predecessors had been creating for 30 years?

[saigon]

Here you correctly noticed, what such a Stakhonov method, but in a year to spoil everything, it’s not eating, not sleeping and there’s no time to sweat away.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: atalef

In my opinion, the people should hang the military and
the former leadership, or does someone think that Pashinyan has fallen apart in a year like that that his predecessors had been creating for 30 years?

and there something was ruined for 30 years ????
It seems that the commentators have one problem here, almost all categorically confuse the NKR militia and the Armenian army. this militia and so armed with what they could. and artillery, and tanks and Grads with Tornadoes. not enough? do you need the support of the regular army? but this is already a problem so the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia has never happened, and Armenia clearly does not want to start this war.

[atalef]

Quote: SanichSan

NKR and the army of Armenia. this militia and so armed with what they could. and artillery, and tanks and Grads with Tornadoes. not enough?

I have already heard a similar anegdote - from the tractor and from the levers of tanks. wasp s-300. tornadoes and hail.

Quote: SanichSan

do you need the support of the regular army? but this is already a problem

yes well 7
that is, you claim that there are no Armenian military in NKR

Quote: SanichSan

so the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia has never happened,

that's how it sausages. and then what are the general claims to Pashinyan?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: atalef

I have already heard a similar anegdote - from the tractor and from the levers of tanks. wasp s-300. tornadoes and hail.

1 (one!) С300 and 2 tornadoes. is it the army of Armenia? Are you seriously???

Quote: atalef

that is, you claim that there are no Armenian military in NKR

what is there? what parts of the Armenian army are fighting there? or all the same "vacationers"?

Quote: atalef

that's how it sausages.

whoa! do you have other data? Well, tell us how when Armenia declared war on Azerbaijan or Azerbaijan declared war on Armenia? a reference to proof if not balabol

Quote: atalef

and then what are the general claims to Pashinyan?

apart from anti-Russian attacks, no
about what is happening in the NKR, the Armenians do not and did not have the opportunity to provide their proxies with the same level of support that they receive in the LPR from Russia or in Libya from Turkey not their weight class.

[atalef]

Quote: FORCE 38RUS

Spat in our face Russia, and now whine help ..

You are strange, but what would something (if not for Pashinyan) change?
Like the landing party would have already sat in Karabakh and fought instead of Armenians?

[saigon]

I don’t need to talk about the complete absence of roads, they will drag them through the mountains, there’s still not quite on donkeys.
I just happened to be in those parts. Zach Waugh if that tells you anything.
Trample through the mountains. It’s not the Greater Caucasian Range. Of course, it’s going to shake your brains out, but you can.

[modun]

under the complete scare of the enemy from the air

[saigon]

And these are the problems of the Armenian side, who prevented them from preparing for war in a normal way, they did not rest on their laurels, well, after either the revolution, or the stellate sturgeon with horseradish, I wanted to.

[Trojan_wolf]

Not a war, but some Call Of Duty ...

[Konnick]

Quote: Trojan_Wolf

Not a war, but some Call Of Duty ...

In the morning in the newspaper, in the evening in the verse ... progress cannot be stopped. Maybe it's for the best. From shelling and bombing in the squares, civilians are killed, and so, only the armed enemy, his equipment. And what a savings on ammunition.

[Yujanin]

How the sides prepared for war

[Lesorub]

At the same time, the message of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan states that the sabotage and reconnaissance group (DRG) of the Armenian special forces tried to approach the positions of their troops.

Spetsnaz - you are serious! Even after practicing UAVs in a UAZ, these "warriors" also left the place of shelling in a group (they probably forgot for the wounded near the car), after a couple of kilometers they climbed into a Kamaz - otherwise the drone does not see them - the result was sad for them.

[Vadim237]

And on the bomb that hit Kamaz it was written "Nobody will run away from Ilham"

[Alexander Kopychev]

In the comments, the discussion of the UAV reigns again. It's time to close the topic for a long time, because all clear... Complete and unconditional success, against the background of which such statements sounded:

It is necessary to state the fact that Armenian information sources have increased the number of messages in which it is reported about the shelling of the territory of the Republic of Armenia directly by the enemy.

Words, words, words-ah-ah-ah .......
When will at least the semblance of evidence be provided? Even thieves, according to the concepts, rely on facts, but States should not such a trifle interfere? They shoot, but they just won't calm down ... Well, the Slavs ... will we help?

[Operator]

On the question of disguise, which supposedly solves all issues

[Lesorub]

On the question of disguise, which supposedly solves all issues

The tornadoes were clearly in the operational rear - there is more a question of air defense support, which is not there - the consequences are obvious.

[atalef]

Quote: Lesorub

On the question of disguise, which supposedly solves all issues

The tornadoes were clearly in the operational rear - there is more a question of air defense support, which is not there - the consequences are obvious.

What air defense?
At that moment, when the wasps and shells were taken out with loitering ammunition, everything else was shot as in a shooting range, maybe no s-300, 400, beeches, etc., with small-sized UAVs will not be able to do anything.
And modern barrage and UAVs are not Syrian assembled airplanes on their knees (even if wrapped in blue electrical tape )
They will take out all the air defense, and then - as if on plates in a shooting gallery.

[vitvit123]

And modern barrages and UAVs, of course, are a feature of Israel! But what can I say in Israel, it's all at the highest level! Everyone is in awe! Everyone is delighted! And so on and so on, and so on ... Russia does not mean anything at all with its shell, 300th, 400th, beeches, tori, etc., only in vain they do everything, as always everything is stupid and everyone will win it! In Russia, everything is bad, sad and so on and so on ...
how are you? I'm sure - rushing!

[atalef]

Quote: vitvit123

Russia does not mean anything at all with its shell, 300th, 400th, beeches, tori, etc., only everything is wasted

I do not know . here is a real war - here is Buki. Wasps. s-300, etc., etc. - what is the result?

Quote: vitvit123

but everyone is doing it in vain, as always, everything is stupid and everyone will defeat her

No one will win Russia, Russia has nuclear weapons.
But with some types of weapons - a problem. Does not meet the realities of today.

[vitvit123]

A lot of people in our military (general staff, academies are different) ... it turns out you are the smartest, but they just have no brains? The fact that you are writing is visible to everyone from the couch, but what is happening in the army of the Russian Federation we are not given to know. the sultan has just bought 400 ku against all odds. The question is why, because she has not shown herself anywhere? And why are your friends so angry when we sell it to someone? Well, write the obvious things and present them as something brilliant, accessible only to a select few. In my opinion, it's stupid. (unless, of course, you are a provocateur).

[atalef]

Quote: vitvit123

A lot of people in our military (general staff, academies are different) ... it turns out you are the smartest, but they just have no brains?

maybe so

Quote: vitvit123

The fact that you write is visible to everyone from the couch

Yes . from my sofa the videos of the Azerbaijani army are perfectly visible and the videos of the Armenian army are completely invisible

Quote: vitvit123

but what is happening in the army of the Russian Federation we are not given to know

so where did you decide. what do you know better than me?

Quote: vitvit123

the sultan has just bought 400 ku against all odds. The question is why, because she has not shown herself anywhere?

Armenians bought a lot of things - they didn't show it.

Quote: vitvit123

And why are your friends so angry when we sell it to someone?

soon your friends will start to get angry - from what they bought.

Quote: vitvit123

Well, write obvious things and present them as something brilliant

nothing brilliant - statement of fact

Quote: vitvit123

Stupid in my opinion

it's just your look - nothing more.

[vitvit123]

In my opinion, you are either delusional or I cannot imagine ... quotes
1.Quote: vitvit123
but what is happening in the army of the Russian Federation we are not given to know

so where did you decide. what do you know better than me?
I am writing to US WITH YOU, i.e. and me too, I did not take part in your conclusions ..
2.the sultan just bought 400 ku against all odds. The question is why, because she has not shown herself anywhere?

Armenians bought a lot of things - they didn't show it.
Comparing Armenia with Turkey or the Russian Federation in plans for purchasing military equipment, the impression of an owl being pulled onto the globe, on your part ..
3.Quote: vitvit123
And why are your friends so angry when we sell it to someone?

soon your friends will start to get angry - from what they bought.
Serious people try so hard not to talk, sorry ...
4.Quote: vitvit123
Stupid in my opinion

it's just your look - nothing more.
So I emphasize that this is a personal (my) opinion, unlike you. Which (again) the obvious is presented as ingenious.

Several years ago I thought that the guys from your side, who here on the site, objectively express their opinion to which you can listen, now I understand that some are either stupid or provocateurs ..
Just for every fireman, I didn't say anything about you ...

[Operator]

So on the VO is still screeching - like a camouflage is our everything.

An attempt to say that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was not childish with a small air defense system with optical detection and short-range anti-aircraft missiles with an optical seeker (and in a commercial quantity to give them to each battery of MLRS and self-propelled guns, a company of tanks, etc.) ends with a flurry of minuses ...

[atalef]

I look and understand - if earlier - artillery, tanks and missile defense systems - were the most protected (from the point of view of the possibility of being hit by enemy fire) - now a lone infantryman definitely wins, get into a tank and understand that you were shot from the air at any moment and you are But you will not have time to understand when and who does not add motivation.
The impression is that they sit and, as in a computer, play - moving with the mouse - they select and destroy, calmly, without haste - they are waiting for more soldiers in KamAZ to get ready.
Like a dash.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: saigon

In a word, both sides lie little by little and believe in themselves, believe in truth and create stories of folk art.

Both sides will not sit at the armistice negotiating table! Erdogan Aliyev will not allow it!
The victory is close and 2/3 belongs to the Turkish "sultan" Erdogan. Wherein Erdagan you need to cut it WORLD recognition of the LEGITIMITY of Turkey's military presence in Azerbaijan!

And the fact that the shelling of the territory of Armenia itself is really being conducted from the territory of Azerbaijan, so it has already flown into the territory of Iran dozens of times from the territory of Azerbaijan! What Iran officially announced to Azerbaijan with a warning about retaliatory measures from Iran and strengthened the protection of its borders.
Therefore, one should not think that Armenia is just slandering Azerbaijan.

Moreover, the situation resembles the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the same Donbass against the DLNR.
The Nazis in the ranks of the Armed Forces did not observe any truce in the ATO, they do not and will not observe! And no president of Ukraine is in a position to control the actions of military formations - and even more so Bandera bandits and Ukrainian nationalists - in the places of the contact line of fire! All orders of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zelensky are not respected on the ground and turn into a pro forma on the ground, like a political smoke screen.

That is why - by analogy with Ukraine - I personally believe that Aliyev does not control the situation at the front.
Namely, the situation on the fronts between Armenians and Azerbaijanis is 2/3 owned by Erdogan with his Turkish military specialists in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and ISIS mercenaries from Idlib on the battlefield.

I cite below, as an example, a video of a conversation between nationalists and Zelensky on the Donetsk front. Since the video is old, it is therefore historically "sour" - i.e. not justified - the blogger's predictions about Zelensky do not need to be paid attention!

Zelensky to a soldier in Donbass: “Take away your weapon, I said!” • 26 oct. 2019 IN BLOGER COMMENTS

Again the Armenian howl of a troll with a woman's name: "The boss is all gone. Russia send troops, Armenia is being shelled."

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: atalef

Erdogan is definitely an enemy of Israel

Something from your personal comments is not noticeable.

Quote: atalef

Normalization of relations with the UAE will contribute to Israel's energy security by forming a real alternative for oil supplies to Israeli ports.
The UAE is the fourth in terms of oil production among the OPEC countries and Israel will be able to purchase up to 300 thousand barrels of oil per day from the Emirates through the port of Eilat in the south of the country.
The needs of the Israeli economy in oil are estimated today at 236 barrels per day, while the Israeli companies themselves produce only 249 barrels of black gold per day.
Most of the oil Tel Aviv currently buys from Russia and Azerbaijan.

We remember, we remember how Nothing prevented Israel, under ISIS rule in Syria, from buying stolen Syrian oil through Turkey from ISIS, one can say almost directly through shell companies, and then engage in its resale to other countries.
We have already talked about this topic and condemned it a few years ago.

Do you have any evidence that Israel bought Ishilov's oil, or are you going to retell Armenian tales?

[Scorpio05]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Quote: Tatiana

This grandmother said for two!

Possible.

Quote: Tatiana

Will itch - and go against the Russian Federation on the side of Erdogan!

He won't dare. He is still a pragmatist and is fully aware of how this will turn out for him.

Quote: Tatiana

Aliyev owes Erdogan for his contribution to the victory over the Armenians.

Correctly noticed.

Quote: Tatiana

Aliyev learns from Erdogan

Here Dear, I bet. It is not yet known who will teach whom the lesson of Life.
Do not forget whose son He is and who is his Father.

Quote: Tatiana

Uncontrolled absolute power of people spoils, corrupts - and they change, are reborn and become completely different.

To her GOD! Here it is difficult for you to oppose something as an argument.

Now everywhere in Baku, Russian flags have been hung, and she keeps telling that Azerbaijan will trample against Russia)) The mantra is Armenian, they love to intrigue and muddy the waters.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Lesorub

At the same time, the message of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan states that the sabotage and reconnaissance group (DRG) of the Armenian special forces tried to approach the positions of their troops.

Spetsnaz - you are serious! Even after practicing UAVs in a UAZ, these "warriors" also left the place of shelling in a group (they probably forgot for the wounded near the car), after a couple of kilometers they climbed into a Kamaz - otherwise the drone does not see them - the result was sad for them.

It's just that special forces are like that.

[Old26]

Quote: Tatiana

Both sides will not sit at the armistice negotiating table! Erdogan Aliyev will not allow it!

Will he spank Aliyev into a corner with a belt for disobedience? In any case, Erdogan needs an ally, not something amorphous that will fulfill his whims. Will leave (Aliyev will "leave" - ​​unrest will begin in the country, as it was already when the "Popular Front" seized power

Quote: Tatiana

The victory is close and 2/3 belongs to the Turkish "sultan" Erdogan. At the same time, Erdagan needs the WORLD recognition of the LEGITIMITY of Turkey's military presence in Azerbaijan!

Does it exist, is it the military presence of Turkey in Azerbaijan? Are you ready to give as an example the names of the military units of Turkey that are now fighting on the side of Azerbaijan and are in Azerbaijan? And Turkey really needs this legitimacy? It is one thing when there is military-technical cooperation between countries and this is beneficial for Turkey, Israel and Russia. The legitimacy of the arrival of Turkish units in Azerbaijan, which nobody needs, is quite another. In addition, if there is an agreement between Turkey and Azerbaijan, then Aliyev, without any international legitimacy there, can invite the Turkish military contingent to his country. Even provide them with a base. But this will be the decision of Azerbaijan, not Turkey. In addition, Aliyev is far from being a sucker to go if there is no such need for such a step, risking losing good-neighborly relations with Russia and with Iran. And you are all just broadcasting about how "evil" Erdogan is conquering Azeraijan

Quote: Tatiana

And the fact that the shelling of the territory of Armenia itself is really being conducted from the territory of Azerbaijan, so it has already flown into the territory of Iran dozens of times from the territory of Azerbaijan! What Iran officially announced to Azerbaijan with a warning about retaliatory measures from Iran and strengthened the protection of its borders.
Therefore, one should not think that Armenia is just slandering Azerbaijan.

Is Armenia so white and fluffy that everyone offends? Doesn't she shell the territory of Azerbaijan using the territory of Karabakh for this?

Quote: saigon

Having such superiority, not a single real breakthrough can be made, in a month, in principle, we have passed, let's say, the support band and interferences are observed in some areas without decisive results.

Why are these exemplary breakthroughs needed? Put hundreds of boys, doom dozens of their tanks and other equipment to destruction? What for? To look spectacular on TV screens and on PC monitors? They, Azerbaijanis, are well aware of this theater of operations and have chosen the necessary tactics for conducting the database. To begin with, they won air superiority using UAVs. Then they purposefully and systematically destroy the enemy's heavy equipment and infrastructure. Just as our Red Army men in the early stages of the war had a fear of tanks, so now the Armenian soldiers have drone fear. The Azerbaijanis keep people and equipment, continuing to squeeze out Armenian units from their positions. And no one ever talked about a blitzkrieg. There it is impossible simply because of the terrain. After all, this is not the steppes of the Stavropol region, where it would be possible to use tank wedges, covered from above by aviation (or UAV)

Quote: saigon

Well, the light belief that by taking Latchi all communication with Armenia is cut off.

And what, no, is not suppressed? that is, you do not see anything wrong that Karabakh will be in a complete blockade? Communication with Armenia will really not be interrupted ... On the radio. By cutting this corridor and saddling the roads, Azerbaijan will put Karabakh in conditions where nothing will help it. Gradually run out of ammunition, fuel, food, eventually. The personnel will be knocked out, no longer with the help of drones, but with the help of artillery and MLRS

Quote: LiSiCyn

Have you been in the mountains? And in bad weather? Clouds sometimes set like this, only at the bottom of the gorge there is visibility. The operator dives, and there is a tree or a rock ... The efficiency of the UAV will decrease significantly. And conducting high-altitude reconnaissance will become practically unrealistic.

Even in the mountains for this it is not ngado to go. to see this. In our city in the autumn-spring period there is such low cloud cover that these clouds "walk" through the streets. In addition, winter in a plain, in a city and in a mountain environment is two big differences. Without the support of the population, all these formations in the mountains simply will not survive the winter. And Azerbaijan will not provide them with support of the population

Quote: Alexander Kopychev

What if the "insidious" Azerbaijani shell explodes on the territory of the NKR, and the "poisonous" fragments fly into the sovereign state of Armenia? Is it already considered? Border battles are so ...

However, from the fragments you, Alexander, fly as much as 40-50 km, probably with engines

[Alexander Kopychev]

Thank you, Vladimir, for your feedback. I'm just hypothetically talking about the fragments Well, how do you assess such a likely situation: the Karabakh unit is waging a heavy battle near the border. To avoid losses, they withdraw from the battle to the territory of Armenia. It is possible, based on international rules, to assume that they exhaled with relief, now you can stick out your tongue and make faces to nasty suckers ... Only in the heat of battle who will see the "Red Line" underfoot? And please - shelling, and maybe even with a deepening into someone else's territory by 100 meters. In Donbas, this happened more than once.