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Russia reaffirms allied commitments towards Armenia

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Russia reaffirms allied commitments towards Armenia

Russia reaffirmed allied commitments towards Armenia. Moscow will provide the necessary assistance to Yerevan in accordance with the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the two countries, if hostilities are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia. This is stated in the statement of the Foreign Ministry.


The Russian Foreign Ministry reacted to the appeal of the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan to Russian President Vladimir Putin, reaffirming Moscow's commitment to allied obligations.

We reaffirm the adherence of the Russian Federation to allied obligations towards the Republic of Armenia, including those arising from the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Armenia of August 29, 1997. In accordance with the Treaty, Russia will provide Yerevan with all the necessary assistance if the clashes are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia

- said in a statement the Foreign Ministry.

Meanwhile, the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) stated that Yerevan has not yet applied to the organization for help.

At the moment, the CSTO secretariat has not received any requests for help from the Armenian side

- said the press secretary of the CSTO Vladimir Zainetdinov.

In turn, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said that Baku opposes the participation of third countries in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh and sees no reason for this.

We do not want to involve any third country. We also do not see the possibility of involving any country. Since all neighboring countries are our partners and friends

- he said.

At the same time, according to Aliyev, Baku is ready for a political dialogue on Nagorno-Karabakh, the duration of the battles depends on the actions of Armenia. The Azerbaijani leader stressed that Baku is ready to stop the hostilities "even today."


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    1. MTN
      MTN 31 October 2020 12: 19
      18
      Russia will render All necessary assistance to Yerevan, if the clashes will be transferred directly to the territory of Armenia

      This is what the language of diplomacy means.
      lol good
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 31 October 2020 12: 21
        -11 qualifying.
        It is important who said:
        This is stated in the statement of the Foreign Ministry

        Here the Foreign Ministry will help.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 31 October 2020 13: 51
          -9
          Russia reaffirmed allied commitments towards Armenia. Moscow will provide the necessary assistance to Yerevan in accordance with the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the two countries, if hostilities are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia. This is stated in the statement of the Foreign Ministry.

          Unfortunately, on the one hand, it was the forty-year pseudo-democratic "perestroika-2" in Armenia and Azerbaijan that led to the civil war in Nagorno-Karabakh and the military intervention of the banned "Muslim brothers" in the person of Erdogan and Turkey in the South Caucasus.
          On the other hand, Erdogan's contradictory, pseudo-partner policy with the Russian leadership in the BV in the SAR allows Erdogan to simply openly untie the hands of Turkey against the national interests of Russia in the South Caucasus and further for the formation of his "Great Turan" by forbidden "Muslim brothers" (that the same terrorist religious "Al-Qaeda"), of which Erdogan himself is a secret supporter.

          At the same time, neither Pashinyan nor Aliyev are truly independent political figures. Russia does not have to expect from them a peace that they independently concluded among themselves in the South Caucasus.

          Zhirinovsky about the fate of Erdogan and the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Why does Turkey need Karabakh? • 17 Oct. Feb 2020
          1. Ivan Ivanov_6
            Ivan Ivanov_6 31 October 2020 15: 47
            0
            What is Zhirik about? Has he already apologized to Kadyrov?
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 31 October 2020 18: 06
              +5
              We do not want to involve any third country

              The President of Azerbaijan said and asked Turkey to send more troops
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 31 October 2020 19: 46
                -1
                Quote: Ivan Ivanov_6
                What is Zhirik about?

                And this is not Zhirinovsky at all, but someone on the left.
                The voice is not the same.
              2. ashot1973
                ashot1973 1 November 2020 01: 28
                +2
                We do not want to involve any third country

                m ... yes! Something like this ...

                soldier
          2. Charik
            Charik 31 October 2020 16: 01
            -5
            Joking does not roll
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 31 October 2020 14: 10
          42
          It would be nice to send the Armenian diaspora to help. At least the male population. To form military units out of them and send them to war. Otherwise, the Ars ride across Russia, and the Russian Vanya go to fight for their homeland.
          1. Tugarin
            Tugarin 31 October 2020 19: 51
            17
            Quote: VORON538
            It would be nice to send the Armenian diaspora to help, at least the male population

            For military registration and enlistment offices, a new job was drawn
          2. 9PA
            9PA 1 November 2020 04: 28
            +1
            Enough with Russian Vanya's covetousness, it's time to renovate the house, to do the household
        3. Sandro1977
          Sandro1977 31 October 2020 15: 53
          +3
          Purely theoretically, if Russia decides to deploy a military contingent to help Armenia, how can this be done physically? There are no common borders, and the neighbors will not allow / will not let ...
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 31 October 2020 16: 01
            -2
            Quote: Sandro1977
            how to do it physically?

            No way. This is the beginning of a new great Russian-Turkish war.
            You can only hit with calibers once. From the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.
          2. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 1 November 2020 00: 07
            +1
            Purely theoretically, if Russia decides to deploy a military contingent to help Armenia, how can this be done physically? There are no common borders, and the neighbors will not allow / will not let ...
            But it depends on who you ask this question or instruct to solve. If Shoigu, then Baku is like a port city on the Caspian Sea ... If the Foreign Ministry, then yes, help goes far.
        4. Charik
          Charik 31 October 2020 16: 00
          -3
          Yes, Zakharova-pick will dance and all the way
      2. fn34440
        fn34440 31 October 2020 12: 24
        -17 qualifying.
        "That's what the language of diplomacy means."
        It seems that we have played out the CSTO and diplomacy.
        \ The Americans announced the deployment of military personnel to Karabakh.

        US President's National Security Advisor O'Brien announced the possibility of introducing peacekeepers to the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh without the consent of Armenia and Azerbaijan. According to the adviser to the American leader, the speech is about the transfer of peacekeeping forces to one of the Scandinavian countries, however, experts believe that in reality we are talking about the American military, simply transferred from Scandinavia to Karabakh.
        “The armed peacekeepers in the conflict zone should not include representatives of the Minsk Group co-chairs, as well as representatives of neighboring countries. Any mediating or peaceful role of Turkey is unacceptable to both the United States and Armenia. We believe that both sides will agree to the option of the Scandinavian peacekeepers. "We are working with the governments of the Scandinavian countries to send peacekeeping forces to Nagorno-Karabakh to maintain the ceasefire," said US President's National Security Advisor O'Brien at a meeting with representatives of the Armenian community in Los Angeles.
        1. fn34440
          fn34440 31 October 2020 12: 29
          -6
          It is quite obvious that the Scandinavian peacekeepers are just a cover for the transfer of American forces to Armenia. This could seriously undermine Russia's position in the region, not to mention the loss of such an ally as Armenia. For Washington, this is a much more significant factor than even support for Yerevan, and such an idea will obviously be promoted specifically in order to spoil Moscow.
          This is Pashinyan's step towards Moscow's jealous grievances and his HOPE to stay in power and Trump's pre-election curtsy towards Americans of Armenian descent.
          1. atalef
            atalef 31 October 2020 12: 33
            +7
            Quote: fn34440
            It is quite obvious that the Scandinavian peacekeepers are just a cover for the transfer of American forces to Armenia.

            What for ? Azerbaijan won't get into Armenia - fuck it doesn't need it.
            Quote: fn34440
            This can seriously undermine Russia's position in this region.

            Russia by its inaction and double play has created this situation (another victory of the Foreign Ministry and Lavrov) - and now, wherever you go, there is a wedge everywhere.

            Quote: fn34440
            not to mention the loss of an ally like Armenia

            Well, for that matter - what is it?
            Quote: fn34440
            For Washington, this is a much more significant factor than even Yerevan's support.

            oh well, there is no need to make the navel of the earth from Armenia, nobody fucking needs them so much, for that matter Azerbaijan is much more important
            Quote: fn34440
            Trump's pre-election curtsy towards the Americans of Armenian descent.

            but practically he did something?
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 31 October 2020 12: 56
              12
              Russia has created this situation by its inaction and double play

              And what should we have done - to start ironing Azerbaijan ?? We do not even have a common border with Armenia, it does not even have an outlet to the sea - how can we transport help, even if we wanted to?
              1. atalef
                atalef 31 October 2020 13: 02
                -1
                Quote: paul3390
                What should we have done - to start ironing Azerbaijan?

                no, it was necessary to return the seized lands to Azerbaijan or to agree on the exchange of territories.
                Quote: paul3390
                We don't even have a common border with Armenia

                So what, like all these 30 years Russia had no influence on Armenia?
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 31 October 2020 13: 31
                  +4
                  Quote: atalef
                  no, it was necessary to return the seized lands to Azerbaijan or to agree on the exchange of territories.

                  Russia did not seize land from Azerbaijan, it has nothing to return.

                  Quote: atalef
                  So what, like all these 30 years Russia had no influence on Armenia?

                  Of course not.
                  After all, Russia is not NATO.
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 31 October 2020 13: 41
                    -1
                    Quote: Spade
                    Russia did not seize land from Azerbaijan, it has nothing to return.
                    Lopatov, have you become a completely entrenching tool or for a while? Can you tell us, you are our historian, how did Azerbaijan appear in the Republic of Ingushetia?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 31 October 2020 14: 00
                      10
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Lopatov, have you become a completely entrenching tool or for a while? Can you tell us, you are our historian, how did Azerbaijan appear in the Republic of Ingushetia?

                      Let us not be unfounded and indicate which Azerbaijani lands Russia is currently holding, thank you in advance.
                  2. atalef
                    atalef 31 October 2020 20: 03
                    +2
                    Quote: Spade
                    Russia did not seize land from Azerbaijan, it has nothing to return.

                    Lopatov, you turn on the brakes as always.
                    Russia, with its influence in the post-Soviet space, should have brought these countries to this decision, and not idly stupidly selling weapons to both - like maintaining parity
                    Quote: Spade
                    Of course not.

                    If you think so, then why cry?
                2. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 31 October 2020 14: 09
                  10
                  Quote: atalef
                  So what, like all these 30 years Russia had no influence on Armenia?

                  It just so happened that, according to the results of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Russian Federation does not have its own influence on any country in the world, even with respect to those countries to which the Russian Federation issues loans and forgives previously issued ... "holiday of generosity" at the expense of the Russian taxpayer, can anyone say what the Russian Federation owes to Armenia?
                3. bayard
                  bayard 31 October 2020 17: 04
                  +5
                  Quote: atalef
                  no, it was necessary to return the seized lands to Azerbaijan or to agree on the exchange of territories.

                  So they are now, de facto, returning with the tacit / anxious consent of Russia. Russia did not seize the historical lands of Azerbaijan, Russia is the mediator in the settlement negotiations. But since it was not possible to reach an agreement in 30 years, Azerbaijan has every right to satisfaction for defeat in 1994 - it is in its own right and on its own land. Russia recognized the independence and sovereignty of Azerbaijan within the borders of the Azerbaijan SSR and Karabakh is included in its borders.
                  It's time to end this hernia in Transcaucasia, the Armenians were ordered to protect all civil rights on the basis of cultural autonomy, but they preferred to fight.
                  Let it be so !
                  And let everything be decided on the battlefields in a fair fight.
                  And the strongest will prove his right to the land, since the world did not live.
                  And Russia will only benefit from such a position - it will allow to restore justice and punish with the hands of the Azerbaijani army the presumptuous "allies", from whom there are only problems, provocations and no benefit.
                  And Azerbaijan, I hope, will appreciate the position of Russia in resolving this painful issue.
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 31 October 2020 12: 39
            15
            It’s even interesting to see it, three days before the election, American soldiers will die, it’s not known where, if Georgia, still would have passed. Do you yourself believe this? Nonsense !!!
            1. poquello
              poquello 31 October 2020 13: 00
              +5
              Quote: tralflot1832
              three days before the election, American soldiers

              It is fantastic
              1. Brturin
                Brturin 31 October 2020 13: 20
                +4
                Quote: poquello
                It is fantastic

                this is an election, and when votes are badly needed (meeting of the American President's National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien with the Armenian community in Los Angeles.), then ... and what will happen after the elections ...
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 31 October 2020 13: 23
                  +4
                  After the elections, in any case, the losers will kill the winners or vice versa. So it's not up to Karabakh.
            2. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 31 October 2020 14: 11
              -9
              Quote: tralflot1832
              It’s even interesting to see it, three days before the election, American soldiers will die, it’s not known where, if Georgia, still would have passed. Do you yourself believe this? Nonsense !!!

              Why die? Any contingent of foreign troops in Azerbaijan makes the presence of the 102nd WB of the Russian Federation in Armenia senseless ...
          3. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 31 October 2020 13: 12
            +4
            Where will you find such peacekeepers who will go into battle, forcing the opposing sides to peace. They will snicker from both sides until there is a smell of truce. So the Scandinavians are falling away, the Americans, all the more, without covaleria. without bypassing the territory of partners. Through Georgia for a long time, lads from Ukraine remain garn, maybe the dough will earn.
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        2. MTN
          MTN 31 October 2020 12: 36
          0
          Quote: fn34440
          said the US President's National Security Advisor O'Brien at a meeting with representatives of the Armenian community of Los Angeles, "

          this community who just did not throw. Every US President)

          peacekeepers from the West to Karabakh? Putin won't allow it. Only if Russia is there.
          1. fn34440
            fn34440 31 October 2020 12: 41
            -1
            "Karabakh are peacekeepers from the West? Putin will not allow it. Only if Russia is there too."
            You even made fun of my American Bulldog Donnie.
            Armenia is an independent state. There is the Georgian corridor, where NATO and the Pentagon are the hosts. Once upon a time, about Georgia and Ukraine, naive kids thought that Putin would not allow the Pentagon to come there.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 31 October 2020 15: 07
              +4
              Quote: fn34440
              Once upon a time, about Georgia and Ukraine, naive kids thought that Putin would not allow the Pentagon to come there.

              And How? The kids were right?
              Georgia and Ukraine acquired the impossibility of joining NATO, Russia-Crimea and the possibility of control in the Transcaucasus
              What did the Pentagon acquire? Opportunity to transfer weapons and military equipment to Georgians and Ukrainians for free?
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 31 October 2020 15: 37
                +4
                The Pentagon realized that nothing serious should be given into the hands of Ukraine and Georgia, all the same then it turns out in Russia.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 31 October 2020 15: 09
            +2
            And here is Putin?
            None of the parties to the conflict wants peacekeepers there. Otherwise, they have been there for a long time. As in Transnistria, as earlier in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 31 October 2020 15: 40
              +2
              Why discuss the wishlist of garny lads. There will be a conversation about peacekeepers only if both sides want it, but this is not yet visible. Well, just like children!
        3. lucul
          lucul 31 October 2020 12: 42
          +4
          "We are working with the governments of the Scandinavian countries to send peacekeeping forces to Nagorno-Karabakh to maintain the ceasefire," said US President O'Brien, National Security Advisor.

          I think this will not stop the Turks at all. If the United States could attack Turkey, they would have attacked long ago, immediately after their failed putsch against Erdogan)))
        4. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 31 October 2020 12: 49
          +4
          He can talk about the possibilities of introduction as much as he wants. This is his right. And words and actions are different concepts. And "experts consider" - what kind of specialists, who they are, they can also count as much and whatever. These are their assumptions and nothing more.
        5. Kerensky
          Kerensky 31 October 2020 12: 51
          0
          said the US President's National Security Advisor O'Brien at a meeting with representatives of the Armenian community of Los Angeles, "

          And in whose circle did the community put the contribution? Among the American Armenians, you can pretty much collect. Especially if they collect their own.
        6. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 31 October 2020 13: 01
          +5
          Quote: fn34440
          US President's National Security Adviser O'Brien announced the possibility of introducing peacekeepers into the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh without the consent of Armenia and Azerbaijan

          Absolute nonsense ... Just purebred. To transfer troops to the combat zone without coordination with the troops leading them ... This will not happen. Or will these troops crush both?
        7. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 31 October 2020 13: 01
          +7
          Quote: fn34440
          The Americans announced the deployment of military personnel to Karabakh.

          Can you share a link to this duck?
          1. fn34440
            fn34440 31 October 2020 13: 18
            -12 qualifying.
            "Can you share this duck's reference?" Sitting on eggs, like ducks, is a thankless job, they do not go out in ducks (eggs).
            Read the digest of the American press or hammer on the Internet whose adviser, which American president, with what surname, when he spoke to the American-Armenian voters, in which state ?????? To teach you how to use the Internet and the Yandex home page? Leave the haunted jokes to yourself.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 31 October 2020 21: 18
              +1
              Quote: fn34440
              "Can you share this duck's reference?" Sitting on eggs, like ducks, is a thankless job, they do not go out in ducks (eggs).
              Read the digest of the American press or hammer on the Internet whose adviser, which American president, with what surname, when he spoke to the American-Armenian voters, in which state ??????
              Dear PERSONALLY YOU where did you read this nonsense?
              Quote: fn34440
              To teach you how to use the Internet and the Yandex home page? Leave the haunted jokes to yourself.

              you probably confused, you are not talking with friends in the alley
        8. Nasdaq
          Nasdaq 31 October 2020 13: 02
          +7
          US President's National Security Advisor O'Brien announced the possibility of introducing peacekeepers to the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh without the consent of Armenia and Azerbaijan. According to the adviser to the American leader, the speech is about the transfer of peacekeeping forces to one of the Scandinavian countries, however, experts believe that in reality we are talking about the American military, simply transferred from Scandinavia to Karabakh.


          This is an easy-to-solve statement
          Without consent, it will not work.
          Vikings will not invade there. This is not a serious conversation.
          The leaders of the Scandinavian countries hearing this in all seriousness from the Americans will turn pale (although the Scandinavians are already as pale as toadstools) laughing
        9. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 31 October 2020 13: 22
          +2
          Trump is fighting for Armenian votes in the elections)).
      3. VyacheSeymour
        VyacheSeymour 31 October 2020 18: 21
        0


        Russia will provide Yerevan with all the necessary assistance if the clashes are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia

        This is what the language of diplomacy means

        ... But the diplomats did not specify: - "When transferring by whom exactly?" ... well, or by whose fault-initiative?
      4. da Vinci
        da Vinci 31 October 2020 19: 55
        0
        Question: how can the Russian Federation transfer troops to Armenia if there are no common borders?
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 1 November 2020 00: 18
          0
          Question: how can the Russian Federation transfer troops to Armenia if there are no common borders?
          Through Baku, obviously. On the way, glancing into the Aliyev residence. Since this is not a peacekeeping case, but the most military one.
          But this is all lyrics. Because Aliyev is not stupid enough to be the first to cross (with his troops, of course, not personally) the Armenian border. He is quite satisfied with taking only the NCO.
          1. da Vinci
            da Vinci 1 November 2020 00: 33
            0
            Even though I doubt that there is at least one iron argument to "fit in" for Armenia and go to Baku, rather for the rights of Indians in Alaska.
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 1 November 2020 08: 28
              0
              Even I doubt that there is at least one iron argument to "fit in" for Armenia and go to Baku
              Why doubt? All the necessary arguments are present in the collective security agreement. But for the argument to materialize, Aliyev needs to be the first, and not in response to aggression, to cross the state border of Armenia. Aliyev will not make such a gift to Pashinyan. He will simply swallow Karabakh and that's it.
      5. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 31 October 2020 19: 57
        +1
        Quote: MTN
        This is what the language of diplomacy means.

        Well, it was clear from the very beginning: Russia, according to the CSTO treaty, will protect Armenia from an attack on it! But Pashinyan's provocative request that Russia sided with Armenia against Azerbaijan in the struggle for a part of Azerbaijan - Nagorno-Karabakh - was doomed to failure from the very beginning, Russia will NOT support the aggression and shelling of Azerbaijan by Armenia! It VERY looks like everything is going as Hakobyan predicted!
    2. Machito
      Machito 31 October 2020 12: 19
      -3
      Now the main task of Erdogan is to transfer the hostilities to the territory of Armenia in order to tighten the Caucasian knot more tightly, and to set Russia at odds with Azerbaijan.
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 31 October 2020 12: 52
        -2
        And there will be no quarrel. They will simply shoot down all Azerbaijani drones and destroy all control points. Well, in warehouses and airfields, they use gauges for ostraska. All. Further squeals from Azerbaijan about an armistice and negotiations.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 31 October 2020 14: 02
        +2
        Quote: Bearded
        Now the main task of Erdogan is to transfer the hostilities to the territory of Armenia in order to tighten the Caucasian knot more tightly, and to set Russia at odds with Azerbaijan.

        And what will Erdogan and Aliyev gain in this case? Strengthening Turkey's position in the Transcaucasus is not an exclusive problem for Russia, since Ankara's excessive influence on its borders is no less irritating to Tehran. In order to eliminate this problem, Tehran and Moscow can easily isolate Azerbaijan by leaving a small window on the border with Georgia for communication with the world, which will clearly not be enough for full-fledged economic activity, which in turn will cause strong discontent among the population with Aliyev's policies. Does he need it? Most likely, the tam will be closed when an agreement is reached on the unconditional return of 7 disputed regions in favor of Baku, which went to the NKR after the conclusion of the first truce. Well, of course, this return will be associated with the fulfillment of a number of conditions (additional buns) that Baku demands as a clearly winning side that has seized the military initiative. As for Pashinyan, in any case, everything will end badly for him - both if the war continues and if it ends. Its "political" elimination at the same time meets the interests of all interested countries - Turkey, Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran and opposition forces in Armenia itself, with the exception of mattresses with a balamut Soros, since the adoption of peace on Baku's terms deprives the Armenian collaborators promoting the interests of the United States of public support Armenia.
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    4. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 31 October 2020 13: 11
      15
      Quote: Incvizitor
      turkish pigs

      Do you like it if someone says "Russian pigs"? Why do you allow yourself to offend a whole nation? Do with others as you would like to do with you, even in the Bible it is written.
      1. Andobor
        Andobor 31 October 2020 21: 47
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Why do you allow yourself to offend a whole nation?

        - We will delete it now.
    5. no one
      no one 31 October 2020 16: 58
      +4
      Admins will ban this bitch?
  2. Vadim237
    Vadim237 31 October 2020 12: 13
    +7
    It's time for Armenia to officially say "Farewell to NKR"
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 October 2020 12: 29
      12
      Quote: Vadim237
      It's time for Armenia to officially say "Farewell to NKR"

      Since Armenia did not recognize the NKR, then she said "Farewell to the NKR".
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 31 October 2020 12: 50
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Since Armenia did not recognize the NKR, then she said "Farewell to the NKR".

        Russia did not recognize the TMR, LPR, DPR ... But did it hurry to "say goodbye" to them?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 31 October 2020 14: 08
          +2
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Russia did not recognize the TMR, LPR, DPR ... But did it hurry to "say goodbye" to them?

          In principle, so, but if I live with a woman without registering a marriage, and we have children, and we live together, I recognize children, but legally they are not my children.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 31 October 2020 17: 22
            0
            And this is real life ... And life is life! And you don't always fit it under the "article" (legislation ...)! And there are different reasons ... but you have to live! So many families live, and they "register" after many (sometimes, and after tens of years ...) years ... and others live in the hope that this will happen to them too!
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 31 October 2020 14: 20
          -1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Since Armenia did not recognize the NKR, then she said "Farewell to the NKR".

          Russia did not recognize the TMR, LPR, DPR ... But did it hurry to "say goodbye" to them?

          She didn't say goodbye. But hostilities in these territories, as its part of the country, she never waged, and the Pridnestrovian conflict even during the Union began, by the way, on the side of the PMR, Ukraine also acted ...
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 October 2020 13: 52
        0
        Then it was in consciousness - now it is happening physically.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 31 October 2020 12: 15
    12
    Unpleasant, even disastrous for some ... multi-vector, but logical.
    The question is, will Aliyev cross the border of Armenia .... hardly anyone has doubts, there WILL NOT!
    1. Asad
      Asad 31 October 2020 12: 16
      +4
      In short, as soon as possible!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 October 2020 12: 24
        +3
        Well, yes, only this "as soon as" to arrange, the bad dumb.
        It is, of course, the great friendship between Turkey and Azerbaijan, not very inspiring, well, this is not the first and not the last, unpleasant and even dangerous! Themselves, themselves, in their own .... ineptitude, stupidity, and even betrayal, lost to the surrounding space, the former allies. Alas and ah!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 31 October 2020 12: 31
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          Themselves, themselves, in their own .... ineptitude, stupidity, and even betrayal, lost to the surrounding space, the former allies.

          Correctly said "Themselves!"
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 October 2020 12: 46
            +3
            We ourselves chose those top ones ... I am not warmed by the sales that I always voted against. It does not matter anymore.
            Now, according to normal, it is necessary to prepare for the future choice and here ... but nothing and no one, from those who really CAN get to the top, for whom they can stand.
            Again the same question, what to do? Will we choose from .... unwanted one who is not worse than everyone else?
    2. cniza
      cniza 31 October 2020 16: 45
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Unpleasant, even disastrous for some ... multi-vector, but logical.
      The question is, will Aliyev cross the border of Armenia .... hardly anyone has doubts, there WILL NOT!


      Have they resolved the border issue or not yet?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 October 2020 18: 12
        +1
        They were left with clear boundaries on the maps! The question is, they did not agree with this.
        According to the old maps, Karabakh and there are many other regions, Azerbaijani. On the officially recognized territory of Armenia, Azerbaijan did not invade.
        1. cniza
          cniza 31 October 2020 18: 22
          +2
          But there is no official agreement on the borders, this is another reason for the conflict ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 October 2020 18: 34
            +1
            They themselves were screwing it up. They were left with a position for dialogue, but ... proud and themselves with a mustache.
            1. cniza
              cniza 31 October 2020 18: 47
              +2
              There are third players who will incite and not let the conflict fade away ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 31 October 2020 18: 54
                +1
                It's all over. will "squeeze" all Armenians into the official territory of Armenia ....
                1. cniza
                  cniza 31 October 2020 18: 58
                  +2
                  I don’t presume to predict how everything will end, but the situation is not in Armenia’s favor ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 31 October 2020 19: 24
                    +2
                    The territory is cut off from us, there are no common borders, there is NO corridor! And the base, it is so that no one violates the official borders of Armenia ... but this will not happen, this is understandable.
                    There was no love and friendship, among the multi-vector, and so there was, and normal, they themselves have to understand within their country, for this they HAVE EVERYTHING!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 31 October 2020 20: 32
                      +2
                      You yourself, but provocations are within easy reach and then Russia will get involved ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 October 2020 21: 25
                        +1
                        Who can provoke, will?
                        There are Georgia, Turkey, Iran and Azerbaijan around ... who dares?
  4. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 31 October 2020 12: 17
    -8
    Apparently Armenia decided to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh, and this is the beginning of an official war with Azerbaijan. This is probably why Pashinyan decided to play it safe and wrote this letter. Here, he will drag the Russians into the war with Turkey.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 31 October 2020 12: 22
      10
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Apparently Armenia decided to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh, and this is the beginning of an official war with Azerbaijan.

      Even if Armenia recognizes NKR, Karabakh will not become part of Armenia.
    2. atalef
      atalef 31 October 2020 12: 24
      +5
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Apparently Armenia decided to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh, and this is the beginning of an official war with Azerbaijan.

      Well, well, Russia, of course, will immediately have to harness itself to Armenia.
      fool
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      he will drag the Russians into the war with Turkey.

      and that Turkey is fighting? I somehow did not notice this.
      1. Hello from Baku
        Hello from Baku 31 October 2020 12: 31
        0
        I don’t want to even theoretically discuss the involvement of Russia, but Erdogan said a week ago that if a third party intervenes in the conflict, we will be the fourth.
        All the same, I think and hope that there will be no direct hostilities on the territory of Armenia, unless the Armenians blow up the dam of the hydroelectric power station in Mingechaur or strike Baku with Iskander.
        1. MTN
          MTN 31 October 2020 12: 44
          -2
          Quote: Greetings from Baku
          I do not even want to theoretically discuss the involvement of Russia, but Erdogan

          to hell with Turkey. He has only 150.000 illegal immigrants from Armenia living in his country. If he wants to strangle the Armenians, he will do it at home first. And in a strange place in the 21st century, oh, how difficult it is to fight and kill with impunity. There are INSPECTORS in this world. These are certain countries and people. Turkey will then be devoured if it gets into Turkey. There are rules of the game and Erdogan knows where he can and where not. And also his red line. He helps Azerbaijan for 2 reasons. 1st brotherhood 2nd is profit. Sells weapons, their companies are working and plus the pipe. Azerbaijan's victory will strengthen these ties. And Turkey, I will not hide, has helped Azerbaijan both in words and in deeds, starting from the training of the military according to world standards. And I also sold it, and maybe I donated it, I don’t know, thanks to Turkey we have one modern weapon in our hands. Certainly I cannot stress the role of Israel. Israel helped us to acquire weapons of the 21st century for which my thanks go to them. Not many countries in the world are ready to sell weapons to us and not many countries can send three funny letters to those countries that prohibit cooperation between Azerbaijan and Israel. In this war there is considerable help from many countries.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 31 October 2020 12: 52
            -1
            Quote: MTN
            1st brotherhood 2nd is profit.

            After the liberation of NKR, this territory needs to be developed. The region is very rich in nature and resources. In potential, the bashish can be huge. Naturally, Turkish and Israeli companies will have the right to "first night".
            1. MTN
              MTN 31 October 2020 12: 57
              -3
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              Naturally, Turkish and Israeli companies will have the right to "first night".

              Aliyev has already indicated that those who supported Azerbaijan and those who criticized, secondly, remember that you will soon knock on our offices with your projects. A subtle hint that will send all these companies in 2 funny letters.
            2. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 31 October 2020 15: 35
              +2
              According to calculations, in Karabakh, from Kelbejar to Zangilan, there is a lot of gold, reserves are estimated at around 1250 tons. And many other minerals, from oil to lead and copper, from silver to white marble, etc. Under the union, Karabakh was famous for its extensive gardens and animal husbandry. For this, those lands have all the conditions.
          2. atalef
            atalef 31 October 2020 12: 55
            +3
            Quote: MTN
            Not many countries in the world are ready to sell weapons to us and not many countries can send three funny letters to those countries that prohibit cooperation between Azerbaijan and Israel.

            Israel has a very warm attitude towards Azerbaijan and this is largely due to the large number of Jews who came from Azerbaijan.
            I have many friends who come from you, none of them said that in Azerbaijan at least once they felt like second-class people or there were manifestations of anti-Semitism. Never.
            We remember that.
            1. MTN
              MTN 31 October 2020 13: 00
              -1
              Quote: atalef
              Israel has a very warm attitude towards Azerbaijan and this is largely due to the large number of Jews who came from Azerbaijan.

              Not only. There are a lot of travel agencies in Israel, even the most orthodox ones have forgotten what they are called, in general, I talked with them, they took a tour of Armenia - Georgia - Azerbaijan and everyone liked it in Azerbaijan. I talked to them more than once. And to be honest, we treat everyone well ............ 150000 Armenians live in Azerbaijan ... We don't touch them. We are a hospitable people and a multicultural country.
              1. atalef
                atalef 31 October 2020 13: 02
                0
                Quote: MTN
                We are a hospitable people and a multicultural country.

                fellow drinks hi
            2. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 31 October 2020 14: 25
              -9
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: MTN
              Not many countries in the world are ready to sell weapons to us and not many countries can send three funny letters to those countries that prohibit cooperation between Azerbaijan and Israel.

              Israel has a very warm attitude towards Azerbaijan and this is largely due to the large number of Jews who came from Azerbaijan.

              Well, especially for the Baku events, where Jews were also slaughtered (after which they fled from there), as well as Russians and Armenians and other nationalities of the USSR ...
              Who are you hanging on to?
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 31 October 2020 15: 39
                +3
                "Baku events, where Jews were also slaughtered" I have not met such a miserable lie for a long time.
            3. Rubina
              Rubina 31 October 2020 14: 36
              +2
              Mountain Jews (Sephardic) live in Azerbaijan for at least 1.5 thousand years after their resettlement by Persia. And with the Jews from the Russian Empire (Ashkenazi), there was a special story in Baku. With the emergence of the oil boom in the middle of 19, Baku grew at an insane pace and there was a catastrophic lack of doctors, notaries, and teachers. The educated Russian public was reluctant to travel to a distant Muslim province. And on the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia for Jews there were serious defeats in rights. And then, following the example of Odessa, these restrictions were lifted for Baku. Jews poured in, the people greeted them friendly. There are many reasons: before the territorial conflict between Israel and Palestine, the Islamic world treated Jews well, we had a joint experience of living with Mountain Jews and the newcomers turned out to be very necessary and useful people. For example, the brothers' grandfather Gusmanov came as a doctor, and members of their mother's family named Barsuk were chief accountants at the oil fields. And in connection with the conflict in Karabakh after the support of Israel, our friend is number 2 after Turkey. And now judge for yourself - not a single Jewish pogrom in Azerbaijan or Turkey in the whole history; but we sleep "poor Armenians" and see how to "otgenocide". They themselves were the first to brew porridge in Turkey in 1915 and in Azerbaijan in 1988. The Turks really answered very sharply, but 100 years have passed and the concept of the "red line" has changed. Armenians will not live in Karabakh, now it will not work, we will quietly squeeze out a suitcase - a bus - Yerevan.
        2. Hwostatij
          Hwostatij 31 October 2020 14: 29
          -1
          If a third party intervenes in the conflict, then it will no longer be a conflict, but a beating. Another thing is that it does not fit - I think that Aliyev and Erdogan would not dare to start such a storm without Putin's permission.
        3. atalef
          atalef 31 October 2020 20: 04
          0
          Quote: Greetings from Baku
          if a third party intervenes, then we will be the fourth.

          the fourth - not the third.
    3. MTN
      MTN 31 October 2020 12: 33
      -4
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Apparently Armenia decided to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh, and this is the beginning of an official war with Azerbaijan. This is probably why Pashinyan decided to play it safe and wrote this letter. Here, he will drag the Russians into the war with Turkey.

      The dude went for broke. There is one thing, but the Karabakh separatists alone will not cope with us, they need help. Armenia officially says that a certain nation is fighting against Azerbaijan under the name "the people of Dashshah or whatever Partsakh" - forgive the censorship. And if he openly begins to help and, accordingly, must hit Azerbaijan, and thus the myth that in Karabakh this mysterious poor people are the same Armenians. With Armenian passports. This is where the fun begins. For the CSTO to help Armenia, Armenia needs to be attacked. And then Armenia starts a war without the green light from the CSTO. No help at all. Russia cannot afford to lose Armenia, which is why Aliyev knows his red line and the limit of possibilities. The border areas will shoot at maximum, from where they will shoot at Azerbaijan.

      But something else worries me here. This Pashinyan clearly decided to ditch the Armenians and Armenia. He will surrender Karabakh, he is a dead man, he will not surrender, he will ruin the Armenians. And then I think this journalist will give the order to hit the Mingechev station. What will happen next?

      I hope Rosoboronexport, when selling Iskander, indicated to the column who and where to shoot and where not.
      1. atalef
        atalef 31 October 2020 12: 43
        0
        Quote: MTN
        Armenia officially says that a certain nation is fighting against Azerbaijan called "the people of Dashshah or whatever Partsakh" -

        and what they are obliged to believe? The dog barks - the wind carries
        Quote: MTN
        And if he openly begins to help and, accordingly, must hit Azerbaijan, and thus the myth that in Karabakh this mysterious poor people are the same Armenians.

        and that someone doubts that the Armenians and the army of Armenia are fighting in Karabakh?
        Quote: MTN
        For the CSTO to help Armenia, Armenia needs to be attacked.

        not just attacking, everything is much more complicated.
        Armenia must convince the CSTO that unprovoked aggression has been unleashed against it
        otherwise sorry, there are no suckers.
        Quote: MTN
        But something else worries me here. This Pashinyan clearly decided to ditch the Armenians and Armenia.

        no, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
        Anyone could have been in his place, even the politician who loves Russia - nothing would have helped.
        It's strange, don't you think, everyone is discussing Pashinyan for some reason (and not the head of the NKR), and when it comes to the war, Armenia seems to be out of business.
        Quote: MTN
        And then I think this journalist will give the order to hit the Mingechev station. What will happen next?

        it is clear that Azerbaijan will hit the nuclear power plant.
        Believe me, with Azerbaijani weapons, you can inflict irreparable damage to the station, without any danger of radiation escaping.
        Quote: MTN
        I hope Rosoboronexport, when selling Iskander, indicated to the column who and where to shoot and where not.

        will it help? Or will Rosoboronexport drag Armenians to court after the strike?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 31 October 2020 14: 38
          -5
          atalef (alexander)not just attacking, everything is much more complicated.
          Armenia must convince the CSTO that unprovoked aggression has been unleashed against it
          otherwise sorry, there are no suckers.

          Everything is more prosaic ... Armenia (as well as Belarus) will not apply to any CSTO (three out of six countries are Turkic-speaking), because It will take a long and tedious decision there, therefore the Russian Federation has signed bilateral agreements with its key allies, therefore, whoever offends the Republic of Belarus and Armenia will have to deal with the Russian Federation, and not with some ephemeral CSTO ...
          The "darkest" one will determine for himself whether there is a threat to Armenia's security or not ....
      2. lucul
        lucul 31 October 2020 12: 46
        -1
        I hope Rosoboronexport, when selling Iskander, indicated to the column who and where to shoot and where not.

        Do you think it is possible to block Iskander programmatically if Iskander's goal is unacceptable for Russia? It would be nice ))))
      3. paul3390
        paul3390 31 October 2020 13: 02
        +1
        Russia cannot afford to lose Armenia
        Always, you know, Russia cannot afford to lose someone sooooo important .. Or maybe Armenia cannot afford to lose Russia? Like Azerbaijan, kissing the gums with the Ottomans? Not that - when they send you a pasha from Turkey to steer you, who will you rush to for help?
    4. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 31 October 2020 12: 44
      +6
      Armenia recognized Crimea? So we also "recognize Nagorno-Karabakh." Azerbaijan needs to be in time before the United States stir up anything.
    5. georgiigennadievitch
      georgiigennadievitch 31 October 2020 12: 55
      +2
      In fact, Erdogan has already taken Aliyev for one place and will not let him out now. Armenia as it was and will remain, and if after Russian aid the war for Karabakh drags on for a very long time, then Azerbaijan's dependence on Turkey will all the time increase. Turks decide their own tasks, and Azerbaijani troops are Erdogan's cannon fodder and are fighting in the name of Turkish interests. Moreover, regardless of the general outcome of the war, the independence of Azerbaijan will become fiction. And everything will be decided in Ankara.
      1. saigon
        saigon 31 October 2020 14: 58
        +2
        But with the fact that the Azerbaijanis are fighting for Turkish interests, you are very wrong, they are still fighting for the land they consider to be theirs and for the most part they do not care about the interests of the Turks and Erdogan.
        The most interesting thing is that Ar -akh or Karabakh, as you like, has already left the category of simply native land and has passed into the category of a symbol.
        He is already creating his own mental field.
        At the same time, it is worth noting at this stage the seizure or return of the territory of Karabakh will not give any economic benefits to Azerbaijan (and the land is not rich anyway), and the infrastructure will be ruined in the end. A war for their own for both sides without regard to the benefits and consequences - the interethnic conflict and the brains are unfastened, it is not possible to prove anything to anyone.
    6. Old Kaa
      Old Kaa 31 October 2020 13: 11
      +2
      I also think that Pashinyan is preparing the ground for the recognition of Karabakh. And he needs guarantees that Russia will contain Turkey if something happens. Armenia is not going to surrender, but is most likely preparing for a full-scale conflict with Azerbaijan. The question is who has stronger nerves, i.e. whoever blinks first will tremble. I think Aliyev at some point will decide that he already has a sufficient halo of the Hero and there is no point in taking risks. After all, the most important thing for him in this company is to preserve his power and pass it on painlessly by inheritance. He actually did not want to start this war, but the nationalists and Erdogan forced ...
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 31 October 2020 14: 39
        -2
        about Aliyev to the point, nationalists and Erdogan 100% intervened ...
  5. poquello
    poquello 31 October 2020 12: 17
    +1
    And will the Armenians generally be able to create a defense that cannot be knocked out without invading their territory? even i have doubts
  6. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 31 October 2020 12: 17
    11
    The prohibition of the Russian language, the prohibition of Russian television, the bad attitude towards Russia, the coming to power of the suckers. Russians are not tired of Armenia yet ???
    1. atalef
      atalef 31 October 2020 12: 34
      -3
      Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Russians are not tired of Armenia yet ???

      Well, judging by the number of friends - Russians are already tired of everyone, or everyone is tired of Russia request
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 31 October 2020 12: 38
        +8
        We began to get tired of the manifestation of betrayal.
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 31 October 2020 14: 45
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Russians are not tired of Armenia yet ???

        Well, judging by the number of friends - Russians are already tired of everyone, or everyone is tired of Russia request

        with such "friends" and enemies are not necessary ...
  7. ANB
    ANB 31 October 2020 12: 18
    +3
    Before the outbreak of hostilities, the Armenians had to give up the regions and half of Karabakh. That would be fair.
    Now Aliyev will take everything. He will not go to Armenia.
    1. V1er
      V1er 31 October 2020 12: 20
      +2
      Quote: ANB
      He will not go to Armenia.

      And what if NKR troops are supplied from the territory of Armenia and the Azerbaijani army is shelled?
      1. ANB
        ANB 31 October 2020 12: 27
        +1
        ... And if NKR troops are supplied from the territory of Armenia

        Aliyev will resolve this issue with Putin.
        The supply is still in progress. But if Karabakh is completely occupied, what will be supplied? And what can Armenia supply to Karabakh? So this is not a critical reason.
        Aliyev is smart and educated. And his surname is suspiciously Russian :)
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 31 October 2020 13: 10
          +1
          Quote: ANB
          And his surname is suspiciously Russian :)

          Oh, and made fun! If you read the "rules" for the formation of surnames of Azerbaijanis, you would know that surnames with the ending -ev are one of 2-3 "varieties" of Azeri praises!
          Surnames: principles of formation

          After the arrival of Soviet power in these places, many residents also changed their surnames. Azerbaijani, the meaning of which has been forming for centuries, have been changed. Added to them the Russian -ov or -ev. Up to this point, completely different endings were in use here:






          • -oglu;
          • -or;
          • - back.

          After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Azerbaijani surnames began to revive in the country: female and male. This is done very simply. The ending is simply cut off from the former "Soviet" version. Thus, the former Ibrahim Gubakhanov now sounds like Ibrahim Gubakhan. The names of Azerbaijani girls are also cut off: there was Kurbanova - now Kurban.
          Simply put, surnames for Azerbaijanis are a relatively recent phenomenon. In the old days, the anthroponymic format of this people consisted of only two parts. We are talking about a proper and paternal name with the addition of the particle "oglu", "kyzy" or "zade". This form was considered the norm here back in the XNUMXth century. And in Iranian Azerbaijan, it is often used today. The tradition was abandoned here. Oddly enough, Azerbaijani surnames began to form under the influence of Russian culture. For ordinary people, they most often became nicknames that somehow distinguished a person from other people. The last name and first name could, for example, look like this:
          • Uzun Abdullah - long Abdullah.
          • Kechal Rashid is a bald Rashid.
          • Cholag Almas is a lame Almas.
          • Bilge Oktay - wise Oktay and others.

          With the advent of Soviet power, Azerbaijani surnames (male and female) began to change. Moreover, both the name of the father and the grandfather or other relatives could be taken as a basis. That is why today there are quite a few surnames in Azerbaijan that resemble old patronymics: Safaroglu, Almaszade, Kasumbeyli, Juvarly and the like. Other families were completely "Sovietized". Therefore, today you can meet the Aliyevs, Tagiyevs and Mammadovs in Azerbaijan at every corner.
          1. ANB
            ANB 31 October 2020 13: 24
            +3
            An Azerbaijani with the surname Ali-Zade studied in a parallel class. In Soviet times. And why did you unfold such a long post on my joke that Aliev is Russian? Probably, you yourself suspect something like that :)
            1. Rubina
              Rubina 31 October 2020 14: 39
              +2
              Yes, some have managed to keep their old names. Zadeh is a son in Farsi.
              1. ANB
                ANB 31 October 2020 15: 08
                +1
                Is Alliev an Azerbaijani surname?
      2. lucul
        lucul 31 October 2020 12: 49
        0
        And what if NKR troops are supplied from the territory of Armenia and the Azerbaijani army is shelled?

        Have you heard about the war of attrition? Armenia will not be able to pull out for a long time, under the wartime economy regime.
      3. Hwostatij
        Hwostatij 31 October 2020 14: 37
        +1
        This means that Armenia is an aggressor and no one will harness for it.
      4. saigon
        saigon 31 October 2020 15: 01
        0
        Well, how else will the supply go, of course, there are inferior roads there, but there are.
        And speaking about the suppression of communication with Armenia with the capture of Latchi is a little cunning.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 31 October 2020 12: 27
      0
      In fact, he collects HIS. Greetings to a well-thought-out national policy, responsible but not very smart, from the Soviet period.
      And it's not over yet !!!
      1. ANB
        ANB 31 October 2020 12: 34
        0
        ... sound national policies

        Not. It is in this question that the Soviet government has nothing to do with it. There, mixing began much earlier. And it would not have been possible to resolve it correctly (so that everyone was happy).
        Unless only to offer the Armenians land in the Far East. Near Birobidzhan. But they would not have gone, like the Jews.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 31 October 2020 12: 50
          +1
          There have always been interethnic conflicts, it has been going on for a long time. It was just that when they were united, it was not allowed to go beyond the permissible, or even not allowed at all!
          1. cniza
            cniza 31 October 2020 16: 44
            +2
            Quote: rocket757
            There have always been interethnic conflicts, it has been going on for a long time. It was just that when they were united, it was not allowed to go beyond the permissible, or even not allowed at all!


            Unfortunately, they will never live peacefully, only Russia united and reassured them ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 31 October 2020 18: 07
              +1
              There was a really big brother who could calm any passions immediately and specifically. And small, scattered conflicts didn’t lead to a serious aggravation of the situation! This is how they lived, everyday life, which did not grow to a serious conflict.
              And now small but proud, plunged into the abyss of their problems ... now on their own, on their own, on their own ...
              1. cniza
                cniza 31 October 2020 18: 21
                +2
                Yes, and the blood of both peoples is hot, not only that everyone understands, but pride again makes them take up arms ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 31 October 2020 18: 32
                  +1
                  Propaganda, slogans, playing on national feelings ... everything is as usual.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 31 October 2020 18: 46
                    +2
                    Without an arbiter, they will never reconcile and will not live in peace ...
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 31 October 2020 18: 52
                      0
                      Ha, but there were a lot of arsonists there!
                      Peace there ... they will force Armenia to comply with the officially recognized borders. that kitten played out in multi-vector.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 31 October 2020 18: 57
                        +2
                        There, the United States acts from two sides and will do everything that Russia could not try on ...
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 October 2020 19: 20
                        +1
                        Boom to see. Grinding into the empty air and ours have already stopped ... so, they designated that with the duty phrases.
  8. atalef
    atalef 31 October 2020 12: 34
    -1
    Quote: ANB
    Before the outbreak of hostilities, the Armenians had to give up the regions and half of Karabakh

    why half?
    1. ANB
      ANB 31 October 2020 12: 40
      0
      ... why half?

      In order not to fight. The minimum compromise that Aliyev could agree to. Well, at least something would remain for Armenia. But Pashinyan said that he would not give anything back. Got a war.
      1. atalef
        atalef 31 October 2020 12: 46
        0
        Quote: ANB
        In order not to fight. Minimum compromise,

        Well, at least Azerbaijan had to agree to this
        Quote: ANB
        Well, at least something would remain for Armenia. But Pashinyan said that he would not give anything back. Got a war.

        and right
        1. ANB
          ANB 31 October 2020 12: 50
          +3
          ... Well, at least Azerbaijan had to agree to this

          This is the minimum that Aliyev would generally consider in negotiations.
          So Azerbaijan has already spent more on the war than all the regions and all of Karabakh are worth. I could and will agree.
          Yes. It would be better if Ilham's dad would become General Secretary instead of Gorbachev. But there was a chance.
          1. atalef
            atalef 31 October 2020 12: 59
            -2
            Quote: ANB
            This is the minimum that Aliyev would generally consider in negotiations.
            So Azerbaijan has already spent more on the war than all the regions and all of Karabakh are worth.

            war is not only about money. Money is a profitable thing, over there Azerbaijan wasted money on expensive weapons, while the Armenians were saving money, and what was the result?
            Quote: ANB
            Yes. It would be better if Ilham's dad would become General Secretary instead of Gorbachev. But there was a chance.

            1. ANB
              ANB 31 October 2020 13: 29
              +1
              Yes, in fact, the anecdote about the grandmother is applicable to the situation with the pre-war negotiations. The train has already left with them.
              By the way, most likely now Pashinyan will start to fuss and offer to divide Karabakh. And a cruel bummer awaits him.
  • V1er
    V1er 31 October 2020 12: 19
    +4
    In turn, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said that Baku opposes the participation of third countries in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh and sees no reason for this.

    We do not want to involve any third country. We also do not see the possibility of involving any country. Since all neighboring countries are our partners and friends

    Meanwhile, Erdogan has already got two feet into this conflict. Do not pull by the ears.
    1. ANB
      ANB 31 October 2020 12: 36
      +3
      ... Erdogan has already got two feet into this conflict.

      Mmm. To talk is not to roll bags.
      Aliyev feels good in the presidential chair. He will not want to change him to the seat of the governor of the Turkish province.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 31 October 2020 12: 47
        0
        So I, for example, do not see any contradictions here. Erdogan supports him morally and with arms supplies, which is in line with Turkey's interests in the region. There is nothing to reproach Erdogan with (here, according to the Kurdish history in Syria, there is a completely different place, there is an open confrontation).
        1. ANB
          ANB 31 October 2020 12: 52
          +2
          ... Erdogan supports morally

          Yes, we all morally support both sides here :)
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 October 2020 12: 20
    +1
    PutinVV said 5 + 2, Pashinyan is enough to play around, you cannot arrange a war for Nagorno-Karabakh with Azerbaijan with someone else's hands. The Azerbaijanis and Turkey know what is possible and what is not. Let the US embassy protect Pashinyan, otherwise they will commit suicide among themselves, so that all life did not seem like honey, but they are masters of this.
  • Mwg
    Mwg 31 October 2020 12: 21
    +1
    I wrote before, I will repeat again: Aliyev will not quarrel with Putin
  • deniso
    deniso 31 October 2020 12: 21
    +2
    It was culturally said to fuck off ...
  • MTN
    MTN 31 October 2020 12: 21
    0
    At the same time, according to Aliyev, Baku is ready for a political dialogue on Nagorno-Karabakh, the duration of the battles depends on the actions of Armenia. The Azerbaijani leader stressed that Baku is ready to stop the hostilities "even today."

    If Pashinyan surrenders the NKR, he is dead !!!
    If Pashinyan DOES NOT surrender, he will ruin both the people and the technology and the country. Then he is definitely a dead man !!!

    Terrible combination)
    1. atalef
      atalef 31 October 2020 12: 25
      -3
      Quote: MTN
      If Pashinyan surrenders the NKR, he is dead !!!

      Pashinyan? And the Armenian generals? Or is Pashinyan stopping them from fighting?
      1. poquello
        poquello 31 October 2020 16: 25
        0
        Quote: atalef
        And the Armenian generals? Or is Pashinyan stopping them from fighting?

        ) and something has changed? Pashinyan, on the other hand, recruited no one for military posts.
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 November 2020 19: 49
          0
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: atalef
          And the Armenian generals? Or is Pashinyan stopping them from fighting?

          ) and something has changed? Pashinyan, on the other hand, recruited no one for military posts.

          checked?
          David Edgarovich Tonoyan (Armenian Դավիթ Էդգարի Տոնոյան, born December 27, 1967, Ust-Kamenogorsk) - Armenian politician, Defense Minister of Armenia since May 10, 2018 in the government of Nikol Pashinyan. In 2010-2016 - First Deputy Minister of Defense of Armenia, in 2017-2018 - Head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Armenia [1].
          Movses Hakobyan (Armenian ՄովսեՄովս Հակոբյան; born February 4, 1965, village Chartar, Martuni district, NKAO, USSR) - Armenian military leader, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia from September 3, 2016 to May 24, 2018. Colonel General (2017). Defense Minister of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (2007-2015). wink

          continue the excursion?
          So who did he appoint there?
          1. poquello
            poquello 1 November 2020 21: 11
            0
            Quote: atalef
            continue the excursion?

            and where did not I see? Geologist Tonoyan, lawyer Gabaryan, economist Balayan, why didn’t they write that Tonoyan’s greatest military experience is a painter in a construction battalion and a permanent representative to NATO?
            ))))))))))))) What you wrote about Hakobyan, read it yourself? Pashinyan turns out to have moved him down
            1. atalef
              atalef 1 November 2020 21: 26
              +1
              Quote: poquello
              and where did not I see? Geologist Tonoyan, lawyer Gabaryan, economist Balayan, why didn’t they write that Tonoyan’s greatest military experience is a painter in a construction battalion and a permanent representative to NATO?

              and who were they before Pashinyan?
              As I understand, you have similar material for all Armenian generals. so what are the claims to Pashinyan?
              They were generals before him, although these generals, as in an old joke
              Wild West, saloon. A cowboy sits at the bar, drinks whiskey, looks around and notices an ad on the wall "Don't shoot the pianist, he plays as best he can."
              The cowboy asks the bartender:
              - Where is the pianist?
              - Yes, one illiterate cowboy came to us yesterday - and we no longer have a pianist
              1. poquello
                poquello 1 November 2020 22: 08
                0
                Quote: atalef
                As I understand, you have similar material for all Armenian generals. so what are the claims to Pashinyan?

                they misunderstood, Ohanyan (he was 8-16 years old) is a career officer, and I accidentally saw this whole canoe - in horror, and it turns out that the geologist before this exacerbation threatened Aliyev with war, even there are big doubts about the sanity of the Sargsyan shobla, if it is a drain of Karabakh then some hefty bloody
    2. lucul
      lucul 31 October 2020 12: 51
      -1
      If Pashinyan surrenders the NKR, he is dead !!!
      If Pashinyan DOES NOT surrender, he will ruin both the people and the technology and the country. Then he is definitely a dead man !!!

      Terrible combination)

      Zugzwang))))
      Aerobatics of politics))
    3. saigon
      saigon 31 October 2020 15: 21
      0
      If he doesn't hand over and what, what will happen? Well, he will not surrender to the NCO and why would he ditch the country and the people? He will not surrender only in one case if the Yevon adversaries cannot take, they get bogged down in mountainous regions, and if they do not get stuck on this character, then it doesn’t depend on this character and tear his claws to the Amer embassy if he has time
  • Alien From
    Alien From 31 October 2020 12: 29
    0
    Diplomatic answer!
  • Mouse
    Mouse 31 October 2020 12: 29
    +3
    Moscow will provide the necessary assistance to Yerevan in accordance with the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the two countries if the hostilities are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia

    No corpse ... no case ...
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 31 October 2020 12: 57
      +3
      Quote: Mouse
      No corpse ... no case ...

      Basil.... hi
      As you correctly noted above, Pashinyan has a fork ... Of the options, arrange such a provocation so that Azerbaijan would strike a massed blow on the territory of Armenia. It is massed, shelling of border areas will not fail. But Aliyev is not a fool either, and I think he won't.
      In short, all the campaign ... sad
  • Professor
    Professor 31 October 2020 12: 32
    -6
    directly to the territory of Armenia

    The fate of Karabakh has been decided.
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 31 October 2020 12: 48
      -1
      "" "!" "" The fate of Karabakh is decided. "" "" ""
      As you know, Armenians are a peaceful and kind nation. But the Armenians also know how to take revenge ... In order to avenge the genocide of 1915, the Armenians organized a secret operation Nemesis. A list of about four dozen of the most odious Ottoman personalities directly involved in the Genocide was compiled. Most of them received capital punishment as part of the retaliation operation.

      The first on the list was the former Minister of Internal Affairs of the Ottoman Empire, Talaat Pasha. His sentence was carried out on March 15, 1921 in Berlin by an Armenian student Soghomon Tehlirian. The German court acquitted the guy.


      As you know, Armenians are a peaceful and kind nation. But the Armenians also know how to take revenge ... In order to avenge the genocide of 1915, the Armenians organized a secret operation Nemesis. A list of about four dozen of the most odious Ottoman personalities directly involved in the Genocide was compiled. Most of them received capital punishment as part of the retaliation operation.

      The first on the list was the former Minister of Internal Affairs of the Ottoman Empire, Talaat Pasha. His sentence was carried out on March 15, 1921 in Berlin by an Armenian student Soghomon Tehlirian. The German court acquitted the guy.



      On December 5, 1921, in Rome, on a horse ride, the sentence of the former Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire Said Halim Pasha was carried out. The executor - Arshavir Shirakyan - was not detained and returned home to Constantinople safely.
      On April 17, 1922, the sentence of the former governor of Trebizond, Jemal Azmi, was carried out in Berlin. The verdict was carried out by Arshavir Shirakyan. He also eliminated Behaeddin Shakir, the founder of the Teshkilat-i Makhsus ("Special Committee") organization, which directly led the Armenian genocide in the Ottoman Empire.

      And already in the summer of the same year in Tbilisi, Armenian avengers carried out the sentence to the former naval minister of the Ottoman Empire, Jemal Pasha, for his cruelty towards the Armenians, nicknamed the "butcher". Performers - Petros Ter-Poghosyan and Artashes Gevorgyan.

      The Minister of War of the Ottoman Empire, Enver Pasha, became a Basmach in Soviet Central Asia in the 1920s. However, here he was found by the hand of justice. Enver Pasha fell on August 4, 1922 in a battle near Bukhara - at the hand of the Armenian Red Army soldier Yakov Melkumov (Hakob Melkumyan) who tracked him down. For that, Yakov Melkumov was awarded the Order of the Red Banner.

      The former secretary general of the "Unity and Progress" committee, Dr. Nazim, escaped from Armenian retaliation. However, he was sentenced to death already in Turkey - for an attempt to assassinate Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.
      1. Rubina
        Rubina 31 October 2020 14: 42
        +1
        In short, it is now clear why there are 10 terrorist organizations for 13 million Armenians, but this will not bring prosperity to Armenia.
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 31 October 2020 17: 11
        +1
        Quote: fn34440
        As you know, Armenians are a peaceful and kind nation. But the Armenians also know how to take revenge ... In order to avenge the genocide of 1915, the Armenians organized a secret operation Nemesis. A list of about four dozen of the most odious Ottoman personalities directly involved in the Genocide was compiled. Most of them received capital punishment as part of the retaliation operation.

        And how will they take revenge on Israel, for example?
    2. lucul
      lucul 31 October 2020 12: 52
      -3
      The fate of Karabakh has been decided.

      I think it will be limited to 5 + 2)))
      1. Hello from Baku
        Hello from Baku 31 October 2020 13: 21
        -4
        No longer, all of Karabakh, cultural autonomy for Armenians. And, in general, if you look at the recent past, then countries that have national entities in their composition are more prone to collapse, for example, the USSR and Yugoslavia.
  • Prahlad
    Prahlad 31 October 2020 12: 45
    +1
    I think the fate of Karabakh is already decided. And it's time for Armenia to wave its hand to Artsakh.
    1. Artyom Volgin
      Artyom Volgin 31 October 2020 13: 49
      +8
      Nothing has been decided. The conflict will continue for a very long time.
    2. hydroy
      hydroy 31 October 2020 14: 43
      +3
      It doesn’t seem like if phosphorus bombs were used, it means that Azerbaijan is doing badly ...
  • maktub
    maktub 31 October 2020 12: 49
    -6
    Everything is just like I wrote, but they stuffed me with cons
    I was mistaken only in referring to the treaties - not the CSTO, but to the "allied" and said the Foreign Ministry, not TASS
    That means you will fight "Ikhtanets".
    We are waiting for Erdogan's statement
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 31 October 2020 14: 44
      +1
      Erdogan will only have to declare a "holy" war on Russia, he will not take out 1 on 1!
      1. maktub
        maktub 31 October 2020 15: 02
        0
        Why such confidence?
        1. hydroy
          hydroy 31 October 2020 15: 07
          0
          because Erdogan needs at least air cover, we will conquer the air and there will be 350 leopard 2A4 tanks and another damn 800 M60 tanks) If the M60 is 1960-1970, even with modifications! How will Erdogan fight if he has no aviation? He has about 260 F-16 fighters, and under conditions of caliber and zircon, then air defense systems and runways of airfields are immediately suppressed and aviation is already working on ground targets
          1. maktub
            maktub 31 October 2020 15: 24
            +2
            We missed the presence of attack drones and a modern fleet with developed air defense
            1. lucul
              lucul 31 October 2020 16: 15
              -2
              We missed the presence of attack drones and a modern fleet with developed air defense

              You have already been told - Calibers interrupt all drones even before takeoff. The Turks have nothing against Caliber.
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 31 October 2020 18: 57
                +1

                Quote: lucul
                Calibers kill all drones before takeoff


                First you need to establish their exact location.

                Quote: lucul
                The Turks have nothing against Caliber.


                Well ... they have an S-400
              2. Tank hard
                Tank hard 31 October 2020 18: 59
                -1
                Quote: lucul
                You have already been told - Calibers interrupt all drones even before takeoff. Turks have nothing against Caliber

                And if Calibers are also equipped with nuclear warheads, then .. wink
    2. hydroy
      hydroy 31 October 2020 14: 44
      +1
      and NATO will not support him!
      1. maktub
        maktub 31 October 2020 15: 01
        0
        Erdogan previously stated that with the intervention of a third party, a fourth would also intervene.
        1. hydroy
          hydroy 31 October 2020 15: 02
          -1
          Fourth without NATO) they don't need this) but in general it would be nice if Europe was horrified and the sanctions against the Turks)
          1. maktub
            maktub 31 October 2020 15: 10
            -1
            He said nothing about NATO.
            At the expense of a direct clash, I do not think, but at the level of "ichtamnet" and other "Wagner", "pro-Turkish militants" 85 percent sure
            1. maktub
              maktub 31 October 2020 15: 13
              0
              As for the sanctions, do not forget how many "Syrian refugees" are striving for Europe and who is holding them back so far
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 31 October 2020 12: 59
    +1
    Quote: fn34440
    It is quite obvious that the Scandinavian peacekeepers are just a cover for the transfer of American forces to Armenia. This could seriously undermine Russia's position in the region, not to mention the loss of such an ally as Armenia. For Washington, this is a much more significant factor than even support for Yerevan, and such an idea will obviously be promoted specifically in order to spoil Moscow.
    This is Pashinyan's step towards Moscow's jealous grievances and his HOPE to stay in power and Trump's pre-election curtsy towards Americans of Armenian descent.

    It is quite obvious that you either do not speak English at all, or speak it disgustingly, and therefore it is not known whose translation you relied on, although if I frankly guess at whose translation.
    Baku does not agree to our peacekeepers in its territory, if only to peacekeepers or observers along their border with Armenia, in order to stop and extinguish the conflict after the end of hostilities around Karabakh. Moreover, Baku itself, and without our consent, will not give consent and will not let ANY Western peacekeepers in. We do not need this, Baku does not need this, it is impossible without a UN resolution, we have the right to veto - period, the States can go through the forest.

    It's time to understand a simple thing, there is one superpower around Azerbaijan and Armenia, we, Russia, and two major regional powers Iran and Turkey. Pro-Western Armenia, with the American bases on its territory, does not smile at us or Iran, nor is it profitable for Turkey. All these not weak countries have enough will and resources, and leverage to fight the States and their European vassals.

    The Armenian leadership made a very big mistake in its policy. Sargsyan started with the games around the Eastern Partnership, and Pashinyan, not drawing any conclusions from the lesson that was taught to Sargsyan and Armenia, even harder harnessed, understandably under the pressure of his masters. Now about the owners of Pashinyan. Has it really not reached the Armenians, the Armenian population so far that the States, in their game, have decided to use them up, or even in a spray? We, Russia, will squeeze Pashinyan and his pack with the hands of Azerbaijan by the clear formulations of the Foreign Ministry, and we will achieve our goal, the question is how much blood Pashinyan will need to leave himself or the Armenian people to leave Pashinyan. And here there can be no question of direct support by the States of Armenia. If only the United States tries to climb into the Transcaucasus and provide direct support to Armenia, then we, Iran, and even more so Turkey will support Azerbaijan, which in this case will sweep away Armenia altogether.

    World politics is a big deal, there was nothing for Armenia to get into. Sargsyan is tired of corruption, well, dare, choose a normal one, not a embezzler, we will only be glad, we have less expenses for maintaining the pants of impoverished Armenia. But a normal one, not an agent of the States, shyly called agent of Soros. The nation must be responsible and accountable for its inaction or actions. It's simple.

    We are guaranteed protection from external aggression by Armenia, but otherwise, until Pashinyan leaves, taking away with him and his whole pack of wandering from power, we will not lift a finger to stop Azerbaijan in Karabakh, this needs to be understood and twisted is useless here, or or that the Armenians choose and receive, while the nose is out of the nose, a little more and the throat goes, the decision is up to the Armenians, everything depends only on them, and if a tragedy happens, then only the Armenians themselves will be its creators.
  • Generator Systems
    Generator Systems 31 October 2020 13: 00
    -3
    Didn't even doubt
  • fa2998
    fa2998 31 October 2020 13: 19
    0
    Quote: MTN
    Russia will render All necessary assistance to Yerevan, if the clashes will be transferred directly to the territory of Armenia

    This is what the language of diplomacy means.
    lol good

    There is a place for provocation. If a Serbian student shot at an Austrian person, and Germany and Russia fought, all are bound by allied obligations. UAVs can fly into Yerevan or Stavropol. what
  • Shahno
    Shahno 31 October 2020 13: 29
    0
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Trump is fighting for Armenian votes in the elections)).

    Her. The official appeal was from the Armenians. This is, I think, a well-coordinated response from the Foreign Ministry.
  • miru mir
    miru mir 31 October 2020 13: 30
    -1
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    The region is very rich in nature and resources.

    what is he rich in?
  • Artyom Volgin
    Artyom Volgin 31 October 2020 13: 43
    +2
    Moscow will provide the necessary assistance to Yerevan in accordance with the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the two countries if the hostilities are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia

    Azerbaijan will not transfer hostilities directly to Armenia.
    President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said that Baku opposes the participation of third countries in the conflict

    And the participation of pro-Turkish militants and advisers from Turkey, on the side of Azerbaijan, is it not a third party?
    P.S. Now we need to urgently recognize the independence of Transnistria. Otherwise, the situation with Karabakh may repeat itself in Transnistria.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 31 October 2020 13: 52
      -5
      No ... you know, no. Or maybe not Russia used similar approaches in Crimea. So you accepted the terms of this geopolitical "game" ..?
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 31 October 2020 14: 01
    -1
    Why provide assistance to a country that is actually an enemy, or rather smoothly turns into such an enemy?
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 31 October 2020 14: 46
      +1
      who told you that?
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 31 October 2020 15: 34
        +2
        You probably didn’t listen to Pashinyan, you didn’t see the Armenian demonstrators cursing Russia (at rallies in support of Pashinyan). Find and see if you like it. Pashinyan's goal is NATO and the withdrawal from the CSTO. For me NATO is an enemy, maybe your friend?
  • Cottager452
    Cottager452 31 October 2020 14: 07
    -1
    Let's look at the root:
    There are 2 sellers in the oriental bazaar: an Armenian, an Azeri and a Russian buyer.
    Here are the sellers courting Vanya, clattering with tongues, praising their goods, scolding someone else's.
    Whoever turns out to be more cunning and dexterous will sell.
    True, as in any bazaar, there are also bandits and a director who have their own interests.
    So think, Vanya, how not to be fooled.
  • Sinugamb
    Sinugamb 31 October 2020 14: 18
    +1
    We confirm the adherence of the Russian Federation to allied obligations towards the Republic of Armenia, including those arising from the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Armenia of August 29, 1997

    But this is within the official borders of Armenia! And Pashinyan is a traitor and there will be more debriefing with him. hi
    This little magpie directly invites Turkey and Azerbaijan to invade Armenia and then the little rat will run away
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 31 October 2020 14: 20
    +3
    Norway is the only Scandinavian member of NATO .. ​​Does anyone really believe that Norway will rush to Karabakh? Some nonsense .. It's even strange to discuss it ..
    1. saigon
      saigon 31 October 2020 15: 29
      0
      And what is it that the flies will brew, bite, burn with the power of berserkers and rush to the region of Europe on drakars.
  • askort154
    askort154 31 October 2020 14: 28
    +2
    In accordance with the Treaty, Russia will provide Yerevan with all the necessary assistance if the clashes are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia


    Not a hint, but a specific message! The first attempts to test "young" Russia for "lice" were organized in Chechnya and Georgia. Even then, Russia showed its "teeth".
    Now they decided to make a third call, namely in the Caucasus, but with the involvement of Turkey. This is obvious, for more than 30 years “the conflict was“ frozen ”, and suddenly they decided to“ unfreeze it. ”Who benefits from it ?! Who is haunted by the steadily growing role of Russia. in your pocket. "And a picture in the palm of your hand. With Georgia they got a complete fiasco, now they decided to involve a larger figure - Turkey. They are tired of uncontrollable Erdogan - they decided to send his" madness in thirst to become a sultan "against Russia. The Anglo-Saxons do not lose anything," chestnuts "they will not carry it with their own hands. So, the message to Russia through the Foreign Ministry is sent not only to Erdogan (with Aliyev), but first of all to their patrons.
    The Caucasus is Russia's centenary interests.
    And already in the 20th century, Russia has twice confirmed this, in Chechnya and Georgia.
    And Aliyev was given to understand that you are better than Pashinyan, but we will have to support him - we are obliged to this by the CSTO union. It cannot be ruled out that Pashinyan was brought to power by the Anglo-Saxons, precisely to create this situation.
    They created an absurd situation in his person - he called for the removal of the Russian military base from the territory of Armenia (the largest in the Transcaucasus), and Russia should also protect it. These are our "allies" in the CSTO - a gateway for the Anglo-Saxons, but the main thing for them is that Russia is obliged to protect them.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 31 October 2020 14: 49
      0
      everything is simple, the military generals say that there is an ass at the front, the authorities are to blame, they were not allowed to work properly! The military generals are preparing an "impeachment" to the prime minister, we are setting them further, we extinguish the conflict, first politically, then economically, if it doesn’t help, then already a serious conversation
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 31 October 2020 14: 29
    +1
    YES WHAT IS IT? Occupy Armenia again? Maybe let him go to NATO? There it is close by, knocking on the door itself ...
  • yfast
    yfast 31 October 2020 14: 29
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    and that Turkey is fighting? I somehow did not notice this.

    Like we did not officially fight in Donbass. Drones do not bomb themselves, experience is needed there.
  • Dimon71
    Dimon71 31 October 2020 14: 35
    +2
    I wrote a bunch of text on Artsakh. Israel and Azerbaijan
    Nothing vulgar. Censorship has not passed.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 31 October 2020 15: 01
    -1
    Quote: Tatiana
    Russia reaffirmed allied commitments towards Armenia. Moscow will provide the necessary assistance to Yerevan in accordance with the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the two countries, if hostilities are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia. This is stated in the statement of the Foreign Ministry.

    Unfortunately, on the one hand, it was the forty-year pseudo-democratic "perestroika-2" in Armenia and Azerbaijan that led to the civil war in Nagorno-Karabakh and the military intervention of the banned "Muslim brothers" in the person of Erdogan and Turkey in the South Caucasus.
    On the other hand, Erdogan's contradictory, pseudo-partner policy with the Russian leadership in the BV in the SAR allows Erdogan to simply openly untie the hands of Turkey against the national interests of Russia in the South Caucasus and further for the formation of his "Great Turan" by forbidden "Muslim brothers" (that the same terrorist religious "Al-Qaeda"), of which Erdogan himself is a secret supporter.

    At the same time, neither Pashinyan nor Aliyev are truly independent political figures. Russia does not have to expect from them a peace that they independently concluded among themselves in the South Caucasus.

    Zhirinovsky about the fate of Erdogan and the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Why does Turkey need Karabakh? • 17 Oct. Feb 2020

    Have you gotten already poor Armenian propagandists with their childish stuff.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 31 October 2020 15: 03
    -2
    Quote: Summer Resident452
    Let's look at the root:
    There are 2 sellers in the oriental bazaar: an Armenian, an Azeri and a Russian buyer.
    Here are the sellers courting Vanya, clattering with tongues, praising their goods, scolding someone else's.
    Whoever turns out to be more cunning and dexterous will sell.
    True, as in any bazaar, there are also bandits and a director who have their own interests.
    So think, Vanya, how not to be fooled.

    So far, the Armenians are howling and whining, what does Azerbaijan have to do with it?
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 31 October 2020 15: 16
      +1
      Azerbaijanis have nothing to do with it!
      Whose tomatoes are we going to buy at last?
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 31 October 2020 15: 42
    -1
    Quote: Summer Resident452
    Azerbaijanis have nothing to do with it!
    Whose tomatoes are we going to buy at last?

    The choice is large, but the highest quality Azerbaijani tomatoes. By the way, one of the largest (if not the largest) exporters of tomatoes in the world is Holland, but I would not recommend eating them, it is better to just look at them as fake ones.
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 31 October 2020 15: 53
      0
      So the Dutch themselves want to go to Karabakh with their tomatoes.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 31 October 2020 16: 54
    +1
    And what is the noise in the comments ?! What does Russia have to do with it? Pashinyan's companions mediocrely "loved" the war in Karabakh. It was the actions of the leadership of Armenia and Pashinyan in particular that led to such disastrous results for Armenia. Azerbaijan took advantage of the opportune moment and returned its own (just a minute! Karabakh is whose territory officially recognized by the world community?). Moreover, if Armenia continues to behave in the same way as before (to follow Pashinyan's previous course towards the West), then Armenia may lose its statehood altogether. I posted videos on this topic on the resource earlier, but as is often the case here, they were condemned, but hardly watched, but in vain, much was confirmed. Regarding peacekeepers, such as Scandinavia-USA, it's not even funny, they will be rolled out like meatballs, tk. if Turkey is ready to reckon with Russia, it will definitely not reckon with others. By the way, neither Azerbaijan nor Turkey cross a certain line, moreover, the Turkish side periodically contacts the Russian side. The war is going on in Karabakh, no one has encroached on Armenia itself yet. And another thing, recently in the news slipped Putin's opinion on the cessation of hostilities in Karabakh, and it was that Armenia needed to give up part of the territories in Karabakh. Summary:
    Armenia created a problem
    Losing the war in Karabakh
    So far no one claims to the territorial integrity of Armenia
    Millions of Armenian diasporas (both in money and in people) did not particularly rush to defend "Ridna Nenku"
    And most importantly, again, everyone and in everything, Russia, the Russian Foreign Ministry and Putin personally are to blame. Well, isn't this a phantasmagoria ?! hi
    1. mlad
      mlad 31 October 2020 18: 37
      +1
      I completely agree that the Armenian people should be thanked in quotation marks to Pashinyan, although they themselves fought for such a leader. I can't listen to Pashinyan now, hypocrite
  • Ivan Kolodin
    Ivan Kolodin 31 October 2020 20: 37
    +1
    There are more Armenians in Moscow than in Yerevan, and Azerbaijan, more than in Baku ... Hundreds of thousands, but we cannot do anything from year to year, both dispors become impudent, they divided vegetable and clothing markets, shopping malls, we tenders for road repair .... And we have no leverage over them ????? As long as we can tolerate it, we will have a clear domestic and foreign policy someday ...
  • Old26
    Old26 31 October 2020 21: 20
    +3
    Quote: TatarinSSSR
    And there will be no quarrel. They will simply shoot down all Azerbaijani drones and destroy all control points. Well, in warehouses and airfields, they use gauges for ostraska. All. Further squeals from Azerbaijan about an armistice and negotiations.

    This is no longer aid to Armenia, but full participation of Russia in the war. Indiscreet question: DO WE NEED THIS?

    Quote: hydroy
    He has about 260 F-16 fighters, and under conditions of caliber and zircon, then air defense systems and runways of airfields are immediately suppressed and aviation is already working on ground targets

    You are just a GLOBAL STRATEGIC THEORETICIAN !!!. "Zircon" is not yet in the troops and it is not known when it will appear in the Navy, and even more so in the Black Sea, and you are already using it. Subsonic "Caliber" will suppress the air defense of Turkey: And how many of them can we launch at one time and how many of them will reach Turkish airfields ???
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 21: 48
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    Outrageous am
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 October 2020 21: 54
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    I am my Fuhrer, Russian volunteers Army of Wreath is on the way! 

    All the volunteers in the markets and in the taverns are sitting for them this war and in ....... did not stick laughing Why did Pashinin put the current head of the CSTO in a turmoil? Where is the logic. belay laughingHe was a bad man! laughing
  • Maki maki
    Maki maki 1 November 2020 00: 14
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    They just marked the red lines again. Hopefully before direct clashes between Az. and Ar. will not work.