"To ensure the security of Armenia": Pashinyan turned to Putin for help

Armenia asks Russia to start consultations on assistance in ensuring the country's security. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has made a request to Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Armenian Foreign Ministry reported.

The Armenian prime minister sent a letter to the Russian president with a request to "begin urgent consultations" on determining the type and amount of assistance that Russia can provide to Armenia to ensure security within the framework of allied relations between the countries. The reason for this appeal is called the approach of hostilities to the border of Armenia and the claims to its territory of the "Azerbaijani-Turkish aggressor".

On October 31, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, describing in detail the situation resulting from the Turkish-Azerbaijani military aggression against Nagorno-Karabakh and the existing challenges. The letter, in particular, emphasized the fact of the involvement of foreign terrorists from the Middle East in the hostilities against Nagorno-Karabakh

- reads the message of the Armenian Foreign Ministry.

It is noted that the request for help was sent within the framework of allied relations between Armenia and Russia, as well as Art. 2 agreements "On friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance" dated August 29, 1997.

Let us recall that hostilities on the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh began on September 27 this year. Baku demands the complete surrender of Yerevan and the liberation of the "occupied lands".

Comments

[Evil543]

Who would doubt that.

[the finish]

Do not doubt! Do you think this appeal has not been discussed and agreed with the Russian Federation? Exactly after yesterday's meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation !.

[NTD]

Quote: finish

Do you think this appeal has not been discussed and agreed with the Russian Federation?

Whatever Pashinyan does, the fact remains. His train is gone. Late Rita

[primala]

Rio Rita ... Rio Rita ... You are wrong. The train did NOT leave. The train is waiting for the former younger brothers to understand - one by one they will be eaten. Turkey needs Azerbaijan to maintain its pants. Touch what ... they'll throw it right there.

[Machito]

How what happens, just like small children, like Pashinyan, or Aliyev, run to dad Putin.

[primala]

Quote: Bearded

How what happens, just like small children, like Pashinyan, or Aliyev, run to dad Putin.

Aliyev is at least educated. You can talk to him. (with difficulty about NK). Pashinyan does not speak Russian either. It is immediately clear ... who "works" for.

[Old Kaa]

Anna, An educated person should not lie as often and skillfully as Aliyev does. But Pashinyan is accused of the opposite - he speaks the truth too often, even when it is better to remain silent. Not to just rob your people like others.

[NTD]

Quote: Old Kaa

Anna, An educated person should not lie as often and skillfully as Aliyev does. But Pashinyan is accused of the opposite - he speaks the truth too often, even when it is better to remain silent. Not to just rob your people like others.

Your entire post is a lie! What did Pashinyan tell the truth? And who tells the whole truth during the war?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: MTN

And who tells the whole truth during the war?

Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin ! And he would have slapped this whole circus of Armenians and Azerbaijanis like a cockroach with a slipper. Only the spray would fly from the Aliyevs and Pashinyans in different directions.

[Tatyana]

It is the forty-five pseudo-democratic "perestroika-2" in Armenia and Azerbaijan that over the past 30 years has led to the civil war in Nagorno-Karabakh and the military intervention of the banned "Muslim brothers" in the person of Erdogan and Turkey in the South Caucasus.

At the same time, neither Pashinyan nor Aliyev are truly independent political figures. Russia does not have to expect from them a peace that they independently concluded among themselves in the South Caucasus.

Zhirinovsky about the fate of Erdogan and the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Why does Turkey need Karabakh? • 17 Oct. Feb 2020

[VORON538]

At the same time, Pashinyan does not ask the Americans for help.
And when did you come to power, what did you think?
He called himself a load-climb into the box, and Moscow financially better support its regions!

[Reptiloid]

..... it is beneficial for the Americans .....

said Zhirinovsky, speaking about today's events. Yes, it is beneficial, and not only for Americans, but literally for everyone. Since this is all - a continuation of the destruction of the USSR, which began in the 90s. All military conflicts, all strife between the former republics of the USSR - this is all the destruction of the USSR, which the enemies want to bring to the point that nothing created in the USSR would become at all, not physically, nor in the state, political, or intellectual terms ...
He spoke of the bad, wrong actions of Lenin and his associates. Those who came to power in the 90s, I did not condemn their actions, but.

[nycsson]

The Kremlin clown drives everything to Lenin and Stalin! You are no match for them. The USSR collapsed long ago! While you have been robbing the country for almost 30 years, destroying factories and plants, smart people did not waste their time ...

[Cetron]

Nope! In one camp on the neighboring bunks!

[sabakina]

Quote: MTN

Your entire post is a lie! What did Pashinyan tell the truth? And who tells the whole truth during the war?

Do you think hunting is easier? True, for some reason the baron succeeded ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

It seems that expert Hakobyan is right, everything is going as he said: Pashinyan turned to Putin with a provocative request to help win the AZERBAIJANIAN Nagorno-Karabakh from Azerbaijan. Because he himself provoked the conflict, got involved, but is defeated. For persuasiveness, he brought in Turkey and the Syrian militants (who, after all, are there), mentioned the threat to Armenia and the allied commitments to the CSTO. Everything is exactly as Hakobyan foresaw.

[primala]

Aliyev understands ... Azerbaijan is a young republic. Has no history. (only with regards to the USSR). Pashinyan is ... an Armenian uneducated. Came from nowhere. Got caught in the turmoil. Knowing what is happening in Armenia today, besides feeling sorry for the common people, it does not cause any other emotions. THEY can't figure it out among themselves, how we can do it. And do we need it with you !? For example (their foolishness): If someone overtakes on the road the steeper who has the number on the car, they can immediately open fire. And I am writing this from the words of eyewitnesses of the Armenians themselves (who have been living and working in Russia for a long time, and at the same time do not forget their relatives (visit the country).

[NTD]

Quote: primaala

Azerbaijan is a young republic. Has no history.

How does it not have a story? 60 million nation fell from the moon? It also has a history. Starting from the ancient Manna, the ancient state that existed in the X-VII centuries BC. e. up to Azerbaijan and its detailed description exists.

Many simply did not want the history of Azerbaijan to be a well-known topic. Who ruled Persia for thousands of years? Ethnic Azerbaijanis. The Safavid Empire. Ancient Albania. From the fact that the name of the country has changed, we are the legal successors of these countries.

[primala]

It's just that many did not want the history of Azerbaijan to be a famous topic
==================
Name at least one Russian historian who is lying about the formation of the Republic of Azerbaijan. After all, you also know when the republic of the "ASSR" "lay" on the map.
Why deceive yourself !? It's not about that. It's about reality.

[NTD]

Quote: primaala

Name at least one Russian historian who is lying about the formation of the Republic of Azerbaijan.

Alla, give me time, I will show you the history of Azerbaijan with Russian sources, IF THERE IS A DESIRE!

[Alexander Kopychev]

Dear MTN. Just indicate the first mention of "Azerbaijan". I would greatly appreciate it. A lot of slop has already been poured on Vladimir Ilyich about the "bomb", but they do not like to recall the 70-year period of relative calm in the Caucasus.

[NTD]

Quote: Alexander Kopychev

Dear MTN. Just indicate the first mention of "Azerbaijan". I would greatly appreciate it.

Homann's map (XNUMXth century)
And there is no Armenia

[NTD]

Take a close look at this part.

[K-50]

Quote: MTN

Take a close look at this part.

Why are these dudes sitting at the bottom of the map?
I drove through, did not see.
Are you hiding?
Older cards drew, and besides the true, sometimes there are many strangers, and sometimes the true is not portrayed.
So your post with the map is not really proof.

[NTD]

Quote: K-50

So your post with the map is not really proof.

Okay. We don’t believe overseas, we believe ours. I present a map published in Russia: Transcaucasia 1809-1817. Georgia, Persia, Turkey and many Azerbaijani khanates are clearly visible. As you know, and I think no one will argue - the Armenians did not have khans and khanates, just by definition. There were Armenian melikdoms, they are not on the map.

So, on the territory of modern Azerbaijan in the center you can clearly see the Karabakh, it is the Shusha Khanate. Before the beginning of the Karabakh events, Armenians almost did not live in Shusha, it was a purely Azerbaijani-Turkic city next to the fortress built by Khan Panahali. There was the Baku Khanate on Absheron, and the Guba, Sheki and other Azerbaijani khanates are also visible. In the place of modern Armenia there was the Iravan (Erivan) Khanate, next to the Persian border - the Nakhchivan.

The word "Armenia" is simply not there. Do you need comments? I think they are superfluous. The Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region was created by the Bolsheviks in 1923 in the center of Azerbaijan from nothing, that is, there was no similar administrative unit there. NKAO was created in Azerbaijan, within Azerbaijan. In 1992-93, former Soviet Armenia seized this land and the surrounding seven regions that had no relation to the NKAO by force, without legal grounds. Now Azerbaijan is liberating our territories by peaceful and military means. Everything else that is written and said in tons is only good for waste paper.

Any questions?

[Polymer]

Quote: MTN

In the place of modern Armenia there was the Iravan (Erivan) Khanate, next to the Persian border - the Nakhchivan.

The word "Armenia" is simply not there. Do you need comments? I think they are superfluous.

Comments are needed. I am not a fan of Armenians, but it should be admitted that the Turks began to genocide the Armenians from the moment they appeared in Transcaucasia. The word "genocide" simply did not exist then. But the Armenians lived in these places long before the Turks. And they became Christians when the Prophet Muhammad had not yet been born, and no one had heard about the Turks in Transcaucasia and BV. So in a historical topic, you cannot argue with them.
And you, Azerbaijanis, are not the same Turks who came then. You are local, autochthonous, but who have forgotten their ancestors, Turkic. Forgetting their language and culture, they exchanged these things for Turkic. True, the culture of the Turks still did not manage to completely erase from your memory, particles of ancient traditions were preserved.

[NTD]

Quote: Polymer

I am not a fan of Armenians, but it should be admitted that the Turks began to genocide the Armenians

quantity and burial can you indicate?

[primala]

Quote: K-50

Quote: MTN

Take a close look at this part.

Why are these dudes sitting at the bottom of the map?
I drove through, did not see.
Are you hiding?
Older cards drew, and besides the true, sometimes there are many strangers, and sometimes the true is not portrayed.
So your post with the map is not really proof.

I'm laughing. How I love people with CHU !!!
A sense of humor is an indicator of intelligence / intelligence.

[Alexander Kopychev]

Thank you, looked carefully. The territories you have noted are located within the borders of modern Iran. Today's Azerbaijan is farther north. And yes ... is this a map of the Persian Kingdom?

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Kopychev

Dear MTN. Just indicate the first mention of "Azerbaijan".

what does it matter now 7
There is a state. Azerbaijan with borders recognized by the world community, there is Armenia with its state. border.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: MTN

Alla, give me time, I will show you the history of Azerbaijan with Russian sources, IF THERE IS A DESIRE!

Well, let's name the state that is the predecessor of modern Azerbaijan, let it be known to you that even in the USSR, Azerbaijan was not included independently, but as part of the ZSFSR

[NTD]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, let's name the state that is the predecessor of modern Azerbaijan, let it be known to you that even in the USSR, Azerbaijan was not included independently, but as part of the ZSFSR

Dear, if you are hinting at Persia, please look at who was at the head of Persia, especially carefully read his nationality ..... then return to discuss further. And so I will tell you, Azerbaijan, these are many khanates. Azerbaijan is one homeland for all the peoples of the region. Azerbaijanis are the legal successors of the Safavid Empire. As well as ancient Albania.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: MTN

Dear if you are hinting at Persia

I'm not hinting at anything, I'm just asking to name the predecessor of the AzSSR

Quote: MTN

please see who was at the head of Persia

I understand that you are a high school student otherwise you would be able to formulate questions and thoughts
what period in the history of Persia are you talking about?

[sabakina]

Quote: MTN

Alla, give me time, I will show you the history of Azerbaijan with Russian sources, IF THERE IS A DESIRE!

[paul3390]

Another Sumerians, etit ..

[Gardamir]

Talysh originally lived on lands that are now called Azerbaijan.

[Humpty]

Quote: MTN

Who ruled Persia for thousands of years? Ethnic Azerbaijanis.

I read a book in which your (and Ukrainian too) origin is derived from the Kirghiz. The book is called "History of the Kyrgyz or all Turkic-speaking peoples".
And you know, you have a lot in common in thinking.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

... I read a book in which your (and Ukrainian too) origin is derived from the Kirghiz. The book is called "History of the Kyrgyz or all Turkic-speaking peoples".

What for!

[saigon]

KGB schoolboy, forgive me, you finally decide whether you are a Turk or a descendant of ancient Manna.
And I would like to hear about Persia in more detail about the thousandth anniversary of the Safavid administration.
The millennia somehow shrink from 1500 to the middle of 1700, when they ruled throughout Iran, that is, they lie about thousands of letofs.
Where have you got the Ahamenids, Sassanids, Parthians?
Where did you take them from the history of Iran and Persia, and yes, and the Ilkhans and the same alien Seleucids.
Well, let's go about Albania, what topic are you hooked on our stubborn nationalist. The state of Albania included 26 tribes, located on parts of the territories of Azerbaijan, Dagestan and Georgia.
After the collapse, the peoples of this state assimilated with the peoples inhabiting Azerbaijan, most of the peoples of Dagestan and the Kartvelians of Georgia, and you can get the nationalist mister for a snack in big letters of ARMENIA. In the old days, some of the Armenians called themselves ALBANS. Only for your sake sir climbed into the library.

[Bullba]

The Black Sea was dug with the Ukrainians and the dinosaurs were exterminated, PPC.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: MTN

It also has a history. Starting from the ancient Manna, the ancient state that existed in the X-VII centuries BC. e. up to Azerbaijan and its detailed description exists.

do not make anyone laugh, otherwise you will reach the dinosaurs at such a pace
statehood in Azerbaijan everything that was part of the USSR, or name the predecessor of the AzSSR

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

After that, little Igor dreamed in a dream that he was on board a huge aircraft with luxurious cabins and electric lighting inside

Yes, we know who dug the Caspian.

[Ugochaves]

Oh, a brother of the ancient ukrov showed up. Soon they will fight like pike vests at Ilf and Petrov.

[Cheldon]

Quote: MTN

60 million nation

Where from? Where? When? You asked the Iranian Azerbaijanis: do they want to go to Azerbaijan? With wild corruption (I know not by hearsay, for writing one certificate I was demanded 1 manat) In Lankaran ask: where will they go for treatment in Baku or Iran? And how do Lezgins and Talyshs treat Azerbaijanis? And why does Aliyev have Kurds in his guard, does he not trust Azerbaijanis? About 60 million are your wet dreams.

[72jora72]

How does it not have a story? 60 million nation fell from the moon? It also has a history. Starting from the ancient Manna, the ancient state that existed in the X-VII centuries BC. e.

And they also dug the Caspian Sea, somewhere I have already heard that ...

[Leeds]

I am much more interested in the problems of our economy, for example, than what Nagorno-Karabakh will be. Still invest in their pacification, placing peacekeepers there? ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Old Kaa

But Pashinyan is accused of the opposite - he speaks the truth too often

True, he has only one - the world's largest US embassy for 2500 people, and which suddenly stopped helping him.

[NTD]

Quote: tihonmarine

True, he has only one - the world's largest US embassy for 2500 people

+ American BioLaboratory. Therefore, the Russian Foreign Ministry gave them an appropriate answer. THEY WERE MADE SPECIFICALLY.

These are the cunning ones, they want to get weapons for free, so that later either their own or the Russian one can be sent to Karabakh.

MFA RUSSIA - BRAVO

I do not believe in their sincerity. Even a fool understands that they understood that physically Russia will not help, although they decided to take equipment and ammunition for free. They are incorrigible .....................

[Herman 4223]

But this clown could declare that an aggression was committed against his country, there were several facts of a strike on the territory of Armenia. You can only see it in the American embassy against, because then Russia will strengthen itself in the South Caucasus.

[atalef]

Quote: Herman 4223

But this clown could declare that an aggression was committed against his country, there were several facts of a strike on the territory of Armenia.

and this type is enough for the CSTO to support him, and Armenia is not at all involved in military actions against Azerbaijan. You should not consider everyone stupid and no one will kill resources or military personnel and will not lead to such a divorce

Quote: Herman 4223

Only to be seen in the American embassy against

and they have something to do with it?

Quote: Herman 4223

after all, Russia will then strengthen itself in the southern Caucasus.

[Herman 4223]

Whether it will help or not is another matter, the fact that he did not even try.
The second point is always with them.

[atalef]

Quote: Herman 4223

Whether or not it will help is another matter, the fact that he did not even try

What is aggression against Armenia?

Quote: Herman 4223

The second point they always have

I know Obama continues to shit every night in Russian elevators, and during the day, apparently in Armenian.

[Herman 4223]

There were a couple of strikes on the territory of Armenia itself. This fact can be used for cries for help.
I don't know about Abama, anything can happen. The opposite has not been proven, he himself does not refute the information.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: atalef

Obama continues to shit every night in Russian elevators, and during the day, apparently in Armenian.

No one doubts this, he is a Kenyan friend.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MTN

American BioLaboratory. Therefore, the Russian Foreign Ministry gave them an appropriate answer. THEY WERE MADE SPECIFICALLY.

Likewise, on the territory of Azerbaijan in 2013, as a result of American-Azerbaijani cooperation in various regions of Azerbaijan, ten stations for epidemiological monitoring were built for the State Veterinary Service and the Ministries of Defense and Health. More than one million dollars was spent on the construction of the Department of Defense laboratory and it was sponsored by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA. , biological, radiological, nuclear and others).
Earlier, the US Embassy in Azerbaijan stated categorically that any statements by the Russian side about the deployment of biological weapons do not reflect reality.

[sabakina]

MTN, I’m thinking, and I don’t understand.

[K-50]

Quote: sabakina

MTN, I’m thinking, and I don’t understand.

Provides information support.
Someone was drawn into the cerebellum, that it was time to recapture "their lands", they gave a command, so they are trying.
The fact that in the USSR they lived there among themselves and relatively calmly, now the dust of antiquity whirled up and wanted to reunite.
Not otherwise, nightmares in a dream tortured.

[Herman 4223]

And what help does he need besides advice on what to do next?

[primala]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Old Kaa

But Pashinyan is accused of the opposite - he speaks the truth too often

True, he has only one - the world's largest US embassy for 2500 people, and which suddenly stopped helping him.

Thanks. Specifically added. I have long wanted to designate the territory of the US Embassy.
Where the American boot has stepped, there is NO need to wait for a peaceful existence. The Balts dream to this day that someone would have intervened faster and kicked NATO out of Europe. Especially from the Baltics. How radical are Latvians (against Russia).
For mercenaries in NATO, it doesn't matter where the "codpiece" is attached. (brr)

[faiver]

An educated person should not lie as often and skillfully as Aliyev does

- do not tell my slippers, any politician always lies ...

[saigon]

And for what reason should an educated person not lie?
Education does not affect the passion to trend.

[Old Kaa]

Victor, I must agree with you - an educated person can skillfully lie. I had to use the words intelligent and decent instead of educated.

[sabakina]

Old Kaa is so old that he mistook Alla for Anna!

[Old Kaa]

Precisely, the eyes failed.

[Mikhail3]

Quote: Old Kaa

An educated person shouldn't lie so often and skillfully

Do you have any education? Otherwise it sounds very uneducated) There is a class of professions in which education itself teaches to lie skillfully. Starting with the same psychologists) In general, education is just a tool. If you give the tool in the hands of a bastard, he will be able to make his abominations more ambitious, that's all. This strange notion of life, from the fact that education makes people better, is characteristic, as a rule, of people whose education is not real. Humanitarian chatter ...

[figwam]

With all possible forces they are pulling Russia into the war.

[Herman 4223]

Not in the war, but they wanted weapons for free.

[Deniso]

As long as Nikolka Pashinyan is at the helm
It makes no sense for Russia to stand up for the Armenians.

[iouris]

The resources of the USSR are wasted on internecine wars. And who benefits from it?
Hungry people from our edges, gop in a bunch!

[sergo1914]

Quote: MTN

Quote: finish

Do you think this appeal has not been discussed and agreed with the Russian Federation?

Whatever Pashinyan does, the fact remains. His train is gone. Late Rita

Well, these are normal ties for people. And what did Pashinyan put on his neck?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: sergo1914

Quote: MTN

Quote: finish

Do you think this appeal has not been discussed and agreed with the Russian Federation?

Whatever Pashinyan does, the fact remains. His train is gone. Late Rita

Well, these are normal ties for people. And what did Pashinyan put on his neck?

This is Aliev

[sergo1914]

Quote: Vol4ara

Quote: sergo1914

Quote: MTN

Quote: finish

Do you think this appeal has not been discussed and agreed with the Russian Federation?

Whatever Pashinyan does, the fact remains. His train is gone. Late Rita

Well, these are normal ties for people. And what did Pashinyan put on his neck?

This is Aliev

I know. I'm talking about the intro to the article.

[poquello]

Quote: sergo1914

Well, these are normal ties for people. And what did Pashinyan put on his neck?

yes, no tie color differentiation ..

[sergo1914]

Quote: poquello

Quote: sergo1914

Well, these are normal ties for people. And what did Pashinyan put on his neck?

yes, no tie color differentiation ..

This is not the point. You are the Head of State. You should look like the Head of State, not like a clown.

[poquello]

Quote: sergo1914

This is not the point. You are the Head of State. You should look like the Head of State, not like a clown.

IMHO, from the point of view of the US Embassy, ​​it doesn't matter who Pashinyan is like, because their sacred cow is Sargsyan, and the task of keeping the western vector of Armenia with Karabakh or without Karabakh, no difference

[S WITH]

Soros's dog completely misled the coast, Armenia is a US colony and in general the Russian Federation has only two allies, the army and the navy

[Terenin]

Quote: finish

Do not doubt! Do you think this appeal has not been discussed and agreed with the Russian Federation? Exactly after yesterday's meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation !.

But, the answer (from the Russian Foreign Ministry) sounded something like this: "It is a lot of honor for consultations. We do not refuse our words. There will be violations of the border, we will take action. And now you are free - write letters."

[NTD]

Quote: Evil543

Who would doubt that.

And where did the ancient Armenian, invincible spirit go?

[Zaurbek]

In the last 1000 years, it was realized only in the Russian Empire and the USSR. And now Armenia is a country with 3 million population and quite poor.

[Scipio]

Where are you gone? A bunch of videos where this invincible spirit is destroyed from an uav

[boni592807]

MTN (KGB School), Today, 10:16 am, NEW - "And where did the ancient Armenian, invincible spirit go? ..."

See the reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and you will have a spirit too. An example of a "heroic" victory (10-12 on the 1st) over a GRU soldier (Krasnogorsk) in 2019 and others. Their spirit, incl. in the commentary and on THIS event - Armenians from Armenia and living in the Russian Federation, let THEM lead to "victories". Those who want to watch the video of the murder and THEIR comments are very stimulating ... And how do they persuade M. Simonyan (RT) in their comments, for reminding Armenia of the past and possible future in relation to Russia ... This WAS 2019 ... ....
And if these spirits do not get "theirs" from the Russian Federation, then probably one should wait for their "gratitude" in the Russian Federation itself. Sometimes it flashes in the media that they are already on the 4th line in the Russian Federation after the Russians. Strange, but their demographics are GROWING unlike ... Yes, and there are a lot of them everywhere, so scratch your head ... For example, the "hero" of the series identical to "House-2", broadcasts "Not Fact" on the Zvezda channel on history of Russia .. The question is, what, native Russians in all of Russia were not found? And so, we look at the Example of France ... not only visitors were noted there, but, the 2nd generation (see earlier media) ...
Can we expect the formation of an Armenian militia from representatives of the diaspora? .. .
Enough, the Russian Federation does not need "happiness", as in the USSR to extinguish national conflicts with its citizens thousands of kilometers from the Russian Federation. Moreover, in a foreign war of conquest. BIf the Armenians were wiser, then, under the sunset of the USSR, not to seize, but to peacefully divide NK with Azerbaijan. And everything, as in the USSR, hugged and kissed each other. Now 2 parties have their own national states. And the Russian Federation has its own national interests, I want to believe in IT ...
And to prevent the import of "terrorists" by Turkey (according to media reports) to Azerbaijan into the conflict zone, this is a matter of ensuring that the NK issue is closed for Azerbaijan. How many "did not notice" the problem to please WHOM? The result, if the Russian Federation does not begin to "think" about national interests, Turkey "enters" as a "friend and ally" in Azerbaijan, with all that it implies, and "goodbye" peace and stability in the Caspian Sea and beyond. This is not counting internal (Turkic peoples and + additional problems with Muslims and not only with indigenous ones) and external problems, incl. around the perimeter ..
A "reliable" and super-super "useful" partner, Armenia (consider the diaspora in the Russian Federation), will harbor a grudge (which is already there).
VERDICT- Again, the Foreign Ministry's "victory of wisdom" over common sense. I do not pretend to be their heights, this is a personal opinion from my stool ...
A little info(article 18:35 2 October 2020 / Updated 13:16 03 October 2020 "Specialist on the Caucasus assessed the" Pashinyan factor "in the Karabakh conflict"- https://riafan.ru/1317389-specialist-po-kavkazu-ocenil-faktor-pashinyana-v-karabakhskom-konflikte):
"...Do you admit that Armenia will try to mobilize its diaspora, scattered all over the world?At least Armenia will try to influence public opinion through it.
Can we expect the formation of an Armenian militia from the representatives of the diaspora?
Probably not. The connection of the Armenian diaspora with Armenia is not as stable and strong as that of Israel with the Jewish diaspora.
— That is, Armenian volunteers from the Diaspora, most likely, will not go to fight for Karabakh?
— Chance, that foreign Armenians will go to fight for Karabakh, I think not big.
In the event of direct Turkish aggression, do you allow Russia's military intervention in the NK conflict?
Turkey's military aggression against whom? It's not clear yet against whom can this aggression be if Turkey's actions do not go beyond the borders of Azerbaijan?
Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said bluntly that he regards the current conflict in Karabakh as a war for the liberation of the occupied territory of Azerbaijan.
- Yes, in the event of Turkey's interference, both in fact and legally, everything will take place on Azerbaijani territoryif the hostilities are not transferred directly to the territory of Armenia.
R.S. ... According to the latest data, Armenia reports that Azerbaijani troops are striking the capital of NKR - Stepanakert. It was also reported that Yerevan expressed its readiness to sit down at the negotiating table, but in Baku they say that this will be possible only after the liberation of the entire Azerbaijani territory..."

[Alex Justice]

And where did the ancient Armenian, invincible spirit go?

I'm watching the Shield TV series, where the American police are trying to fight the Armenian mafia.

[NTD]

Quote: Alex Justice

I'm watching the Shield TV series, where the American police are trying to fight the Armenian mafia.

Everywhere shit.

[Krasnodar]

Come on - very nice grandmother, I saved a photo

[Alexander Kopychev]

I always felt a persistent aversion to such crafts, no matter who they came from.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Evil543

Who would doubt that.

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

[Senka naughty]

Who is threatening Armenia? Maybe she is fighting with whom? Or does Armenia somehow sideways with the NKR? As long as nothing threatens Armenia, he can write letters at least every day.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Senka Mad

Who is threatening Armenia? Maybe she is fighting with whom? Or does Armenia somehow sideways with the NKR? As long as nothing threatens Armenia, he can write letters at least every day.

Read my comment carefully. I don't care who threatens her. I am only saying that Armenia will have a REASON, I hope that you understand the difference between a reason and a reason.

[Senka naughty]

If there are no grounds for interference within the framework of the CSTO, then Russia does not give a damn about any REASONS and arguments of this clown. KVASHNYAN no one can call him, and no one will give him a decision to withdraw from the union agreement, without good reason. Which simply do not exist. This is not a Europa with its "highlikli".

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Senka Mad

If there are no grounds for interference within the framework of the CSTO, then Russia does not give a damn about any REASONS and arguments of this clown. KVASHINYAN no one can call him, and no one will give him a decision to withdraw from the union agreement, without good reason. Which simply do not exist. This is not a Europa with its "highlikli".

Try to think, is it not difficult? Reread carefully, otherwise you will have to talk about cause-and-effect relationships and the ability of an individual to build them.

[Maximilian37]

Quote: Senka Naughty

If there are no grounds for interference within the framework of the CSTO, then Russia does not give a damn about any REASONS and arguments of this clown. KVASHNYAN no one can call him, and no one will give him a decision to withdraw from the union agreement, without good reason. Which simply do not exist. This is not a Europa with its "highlikli".

You are so interesting to write, perhaps I will subscribe to you)))

[the finish]

Read it carefully. And here is the empty CSTO! We contacted Russia directly under a bilateral agreement.

[Vadim237]

And that Armenia should turn to the west - the leadership there is already pro-Western with the arrival of Pashinyan.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Senka Mad

Who is threatening Armenia? Maybe she is fighting with whom? Or does Armenia somehow sideways with the NKR? As long as nothing threatens Armenia, he can write letters at least every day.

Read my comment carefully. I don't care who threatens her. I am only saying that Armenia will have a REASON, I hope that you understand the difference between a reason and a reason.

If Armenia needs a reason, it can pull it out of her hand. At the same time, she has already given the Russian Federation a reason to turn away from her, let him go to the embassy to the amers, mb, that they will prompt

[NTD]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

Have you realized this just now? They have been doing this since the days of Serzh Sargsyan.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: MTN

They have been doing this since the days of Serzh Sargsyan

It is difficult for me to judge this, I do not have information.

[NTD]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

It is difficult for me to judge this, I do not have information.

In 2004, when our officer killed an Armenian officer in a NATO training camp with an ax. On average, since 2000, they have been spitting into a well from where they drink water. Putin endured for 22 years.

[K-50]

Quote: MTN

In 2004, when our officer killed an Armenian officer in a NATO training camp with an ax

I hope you have the other "officers" more sane.

[NTD]

Quote: K-50

I hope you have the other "officers" more sane.

There is one saying in Azerbaijan. Sayanın quluyam, saymayanın ağası. The semantic translation of this saying is as follows. I am the servant of the one who respects me and will become the master of the one who does not respect me.

[K-50]

Excuse me, but how does this compare with an ax in international (Western) military exercises?

[NTD]

Quote: K-50

Excuse me, but how does this compare with an ax in international (Western) military exercises?

My dear, there is a place for a fireman on every floor nearby. There is a hose and an ax. And in the hotel where NATO members lived, there is such a fire compartment on each floor.

[K-50]

Quote: MTN

My dear, there is a place for a fireman on every floor nearby.

I'm not dear !!! And not yours !!! I'm not one of these !!
And here is an ax in the place of a fireman and the moronic behavior of your "officer", who cannot keep his emotions in check at the international level, but behaves like a caveman, not even a human !!!
If he is so "boisterous" then at least questions arise for those who selected for international exercises. If this is the norm for them, then suspicions arise towards your entire army and its servicemen.
You didn't even realize that throwing an ax at another person at such a level is nonsense, especially since at that moment he did nothing wrong to you !!!
For this I stop correspondence with the cave inhabitants !! It seems to you that you have to live for more than one century even before the normal human state, if you have the desire to turn into people!

[Senka naughty]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

In case Russia refuses Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan in allied assistance, then this is a reason for ALL OF THEM blame Russia for all the troubles and start a full-scale pivot to the west.
But what does this have to do with the news?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Senka Mad

If Russia refuses allied assistance to Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, then this is a reason for ALL OF THEM to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.
But what does this have to do with the news?

What you wrote is really nothing.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Senka Mad

If Russia refuses allied assistance to Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, then this is a reason for ALL OF THEM to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.
But what does this have to do with the news?

What you wrote is really nothing.

"no" is your stuffing on the CSTO theme, and even more "no" is your congress on the topic

[alekseykabanets]

Shall we deal with causality?

Quote: Senka Mad

"no" is your stuffing on the CSTO theme, and even more "no" is your congress on the topic

Where did you see this most aforementioned "stuffing on the CSTO theme"? I understand that Saturday, but you still have a snack.

Quote: Senka Mad

If Russia refuses allied assistance to Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, then this is a reason for ALL OF THEM to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

Why did you write this? Where did I write something like that? Do you have a hard time taking complex sentences?

Quote: Senka Mad

If there are no grounds for interference within the framework of the CSTO, then Russia does not give a damn about any REASONS and arguments of this clown. KVASHNYAN no one can call him, and no one will give him a decision to withdraw from the union agreement, without good reason. Which simply do not exist. This is not a Europa with its "highlikli".

Did you understand what you wrote yourself? Who won't give to whom? If Pashinyan is faced with a choice to lose power or go into the arms of the West, what do you think he will do? I give a hint, he will accuse Russia that it is because of Russia's position that Armenia lost the war. If the entire media resource is in his hands, he will be able to brainwash the population. As a result, one more "non-brothers" will appear at our border. That's the only thing I wanted to say. Read more, preferably classical literature, history, social studies (Soviet textbooks) fill in the gaps in education, otherwise it’s not funny anymore.

[NTD]

Quote: Senka Mad

If Russia refuses to Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan

all the countries you have listed, they know perfectly whose ears are sticking out in this conflict, and if Russia does not officially support Armenia, all these countries will stand to fertilize Russia. Batya and Kazakhstan himself, the Armenians have already taken them all out more than once. Armenia in the CSTO as the 3rd anchor in the ship.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Senka Mad

Russia will refuse allied aid to Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan

I am sure that this is the main goal of Pashinyan's western curators, when provoking a new round of the conflict in Karabakh.

[Senka naughty]

I have no doubt, looking at how persistently the media popularize this idea. The only point of all this mess is to discredit the Russian Federation in the eyes of the allies, it remains to hope that Aliyev is playing in the dark or is it just some kind of circus.

[NTD]

Quote: Senka Mad

it remains to hope Aliyev is playing in the dark or is it just some kind of circus.

Aliyev needs a victory! And he will leave a story about himself, like his father. In economic terms, he did a lot, and since September 27 he has shown that there is a fist. Handsome! Aliyev is a trained politician. Knows where to wait, knows where, when to beat and where to beat and how much to beat. As a smart politician, he knows his capabilities and knows with whom and how to talk. Thanks to his policies, both the West and Russia allowed justice to prevail. And Azerbaijan showed Armenia its real place both in the region and at the world level. Ilham Aliyev grew up in a KGB family since childhood, which means, know what you say and to whom you say. All!!!! Nothing else matters. This is rule number 1. And since childhood and then at MGIMO, having received a diplomat in his hands ... for this reason, at all briefings Aliyev destroys Pashinyan, in principle, if anyone remembers, he also extinguished Sarksyan.

[Humpty]

Quote: Senka Mad

If Russia refuses allied assistance to Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, then this is a reason for ALL OF THEM to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

Under no circumstances can they turn their faces to the west (I cannot vouch for Belarus). know that the back may not turn out well.

[Krasnodar]

Who needs it there? Not if France wants, for the sake of the Armenian lobby, to put Armenia on its neck, that's good for Yerevan. Here is just one little trick - the French Armenians are Europeans for several generations, something like the Ashkenazi Jews. The Hayestan Armenians are the pure East, closer to Algeria. Therefore, nothing good will come of this - and the States and the rest they did not fall in figs

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

Who needs it there? Not if France wants, for the sake of the Armenian lobby, to put Armenia on its neck, that's good for Yerevan. Here is just one little trick - the French Armenians are Europeans for several generations, something like the Ashkenazi Jews. The Hayestan Armenians are the pure East, closer to Algeria. Therefore, nothing good will come of this - and the States and the rest they did not fall in figs

The same was said about Ukraine. You are driving the result.

[Krasnodar]

Well, what about Russia? There are not even common borders with Armenia. Well, the Ukrainians at least got visa-free - at the same time territorial losses and the Civil War.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

Well, what about Russia?

Nothing! Let's salt another state from the post-Soviet space. And then people like you, fellow countrywoman, will shout that Russia has allies, the army and the navy. Was Mongolia a valuable ally in WWII? But they supplied sheepskin coats for the army, almost free of charge.

[Krasnodar]

People like me initially say that:
1) you need to be friends with everyone, but first of all, with the rich - not in order to ask them for money, but in order not to beg you;
2) Russia has no allies besides the Armed Forces - yes ;
3) Who does not want to be friends with me - his problems, and I have less headache;
4) Before helping, you need to find out if it is worth doing. If someone like Yanukovych is at the head of the country, why not promote an opposition that is simply less pro-Western. And in general, why not support the corrupt half-lesson, they will be dropped anyway, and Russia in the eyes of the people will always be associated with them

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

And in general, why not support the corrupt half-lesson, they will be dropped anyway, and Russia in the eyes of the people will always be associated with them

In Russia, are not "corrupt urki" in power? Aren't they the same people sitting there that the country was derailed in the 90s? In the eyes of the people, the authorities probably defecate with emeralds and feed on nectar? We do not know how positions are bought and 90% vote for the "anal governor". Think that you are writing at least, fellow countrywoman.
PS And friends are not chosen on these grounds.

[Krasnodar]

I know what I am writing, we are talking about external (foreign) matters not internal. I'm not talking about friends on the street or ... not on the street - I'm writing about interstate relations

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

we are talking about matters external (foreign) and not internal.

Gorchakov also said that foreign policy is inextricably linked with domestic policy.

Quote: Krasnodar

I'm not talking about friends on the street or ... not on the street - I'm writing about interstate relations

Allies, all the more, are chosen according to completely different parameters. If you are about this. First of all, they are selected based on long-term common interests.

[Krasnodar]

Everything is correct. In theory.
However, in the case of the post-Soviet space, this is impossible in this time period. We are talking about countries that are too young, with undefined state borders (the case of Crimea, the example of Karabakh), the absence of balanced centrist parties, honestly competing with each other in elections, and all against the backdrop of the New Cold War. There are no long-term common interests just between the countries. Between politicians - of course, but in the former USSR they are not constant.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

the lack of balanced centrist parties honestly competing with each other in elections and all

In a bourgeois state, fair elections are impossible in principle.

Quote: Krasnodar

There are no long-term common interests just between the countries. Between politicians - of course, but in the former USSR they are not constant.

We Russians, like our former partners in the USSR, can only survive in a common state, with a different socio-economic formation. Otherwise, we will die. Look, we are dying out today, only in Russia a small town dies out every year.

[Krasnodar]

How is that? Was Poroshenko demolished in a dishonest election, for example? )) Of the non-subsidized republics under the Union, there was only the Byelorussian SSR, EMNIP ... about extinction - again, you need to raise welfare. Well, to work on demography ourselves - for example, I have 4 children

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

I have, for example, 4 children

Congratulations, I have five, four students. We are working on the same demography.

[Krasnodar]

Krasava! Do you have twins?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

Do you have twins?

No, three girls and two boys.

[Krasnodar]

oh, five genera
Well done!
I have one twins - 3 guys and a youngest girl))

[2 Level Advisor]

And how do you suggest "not to drain" in the current situation? Should we go to war with Azerbaijan or at least send troops into its territory without its permission? This is already called aggression against a sovereign state .. Which, moreover, is not hostile to us at all ..
At the same time, legally, Armenia itself did not declare war even on Azerbaijan!
As a result, what does the Russian Federation and Karabakh have to do with anyone in the world, including Armenians, not recognized?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

And how do you suggest "not to drain" in the current situation? Should we go to war with Azerbaijan or at least send troops to its territory without his permission? This is already called aggression against a sovereign state ..

God forbid. I never talked about it, and I never talk about it. I am only talking about the fact that again we found ourselves in a difficult situation because of the "vague" foreign policy. This conflict should not have been allowed.

[Krasnodar]

What kind of indistinct? Territorial punishment for a pro-Western turn - everything is logical

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

What kind of indistinct? Territorial punishment for a pro-Western turn - everything is logical

The same indistinct, as with Ukraine, fellow countrywoman, and can lead to the same.

[Krasnodar]

And what was the bad thing with Ukraine? To Russia's territorial acquisitions? ))

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

And what was the bad thing with Ukraine? To Russia's territorial acquisitions? ))

No, to the emergence of a hostile anti-Russian state on the border with Russia. And what is even more important, the impossibility in the foreseeable future, to have a union state with Ukraine. Or do you think that Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are not one divided nation?

[Krasnodar]

One, of course. With a common Russian culture. And different languages ​​and mentality)). Similar - but different
In my opinion, we need to work on the well-being of the Russian Federation, and then, when we become attractive in terms of living standards, incomes, medicine, it will be possible to integrate Montenegro into the Union State - they will ask

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

In my opinion, we need to work on the well-being of the Russian Federation, and then, when we become attractive in terms of living standards, incomes, medicine, it will be possible to integrate Montenegro into the Union State - they will ask

So we came to a common denominator. Are you still fined for masks, fellow countryman? They do not let them into magnets without masks already.

[Krasnodar]

They are not allowed into shops and offices (conditionally, there were people without them). Fines are stipulated, but I saw the police with the Cossacks at the beginning in the region of Kraevoy and that section of Krasnaya. The only thing was that they were not allowed to enter Leninsky without a mask.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Krasnodar

The only thing was that they were not allowed to enter Leninsky without a mask.

Leninsky, what is this? We, Labinsk, have not yet touched the same, although parents are not allowed to enter the children's institutions (sports clubs). There are no patrols.

[Krasnodar]

Leninsky District Court of Krasnodar We are not allowed into the kindergarten either - temperature checks and disinfection at the entrance

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

Yes, he has long been standing with his back to the west in the "fertoing" position and the first in line is Mr. Soros.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

He has not even half-turned around yet, as he was "capitalized".

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

Fuck they! To me too, "allies"! Give me money, and I will be friends with you. And if you don’t, then I will be friends with the West.

[Alexander Kopychev]

For Pashinyan, now the West is Turkey, the Second Army (in terms of power) in NATO. It must be assumed that the palm in terms of "combat readiness" will sail from Ukraine to Armenia.

[Grits]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

So he turned there a long time ago. Therefore, he does not receive help.

[Deniska999]

Recently, Putin said that 7 regions of Karabakh should be transferred to Azerbaijan. Why should we fit in?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Deniska999

Recently, Putin said that 7 regions of Karabakh should be transferred to Azerbaijan. Why should we fit in?

These areas have nothing to do with Karabakh. This is the so-called "security belt of Karabakh". Azerbaijani territory occupied by Armenia in the early 90s.

[the finish]

O. Braen, aide to the President of the United States, announced today that the United States is going to introduce a peacekeeping contingent of servicemen from the Scandinavian countries of Denmark, Norway and Finland. So Russia fussed with this appeal in order to get ahead of them!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: finish

O. Braen, aide to the President of the United States, announced today that the United States is going to introduce a peacekeeping contingent of servicemen from the Scandinavian countries of Denmark, Norway and Finland. So Russia fussed with this appeal in order to get ahead of them!

The Persians, the only friendly neighbor of Armenia, will be most happy about this. In addition to the Mossad and Heil Avir spotters in Azerbaijan, there will be CIA officers and US Air Force officers in Armenia

[Deniso]

Azerbaijan does not claim to the territory of Armenia. So let them solve their problems themselves.
As for the Syrian militants, did Armenia send at least one person to Syria to support Russia's actions?
When Russia needs support, all these odkbeshnye allies stupidly sit typing water in their mouths, and when he himself needs something, they immediately remember the obligations under the agreements.

[the finish]

Sent! The only one! Don't show your lack of information. Or is it just a provocation?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Evil543

Who would doubt that

And there were doubts ... he turned to the Americans, knocked on the door to Europe ... What, son? Did your Poles help you?

[parusnik]

Still, Pashinyan is "hating" Russia to be drawn into the conflict ...

[Same lech]

Again, Russia, save and help ... but the devil should we save Pashinyan ... this little merry.

[NTD]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Again, Russia save and help ...

Pashinyan and all presidents of Armenia must learn these words by heart. This is a prayer of Armenians in the morning after waking up and a prayer before bedtime. You can minus, but these words are a hint of who is Pahan! Armenia belongs to Russia. Russia was not at war with the Persians and Turks for this so that some Pashinyan could give this land to the use of the West.

[paul3390]

Armenia belongs to Russia. Russia was not at war with the Persians and Turks for this so that some Pashinyan could give this land to the use of the West.

And Azerbaijan? Does it also belong to us on exactly the same grounds? Is it possible to give up the unearthly happiness of owning all of this? Or are we already doomed?

[NTD]

Quote: paul3390

And Azerbaijan? It also belongs to us on exactly the same grounds

Well, since the conversation went like this, then Azerbaijan belonged to Russia, even a referendum was held in Azerbaijan to continue this friendship by 93% for the safety of the USSR, and your Gorbachev, after he received a large brute from the Armenian lobby as a gift for Karabakh (then began pogroms against Azerbaijanis on the territory of Armenia) began to support those who voted for the collapse of the union. Strange but not true? We are told goodbye live as you live. And now Azerbaijan is an independent country.

[Scipio]

Fortunately for us, Putin, as practice shows, is much smarter than other leaders and will definitely not buy into the tricks of the leader of great Armenia

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Scipio

Fortunately for us, Putin, as practice shows, is much smarter than other leaders and will definitely not buy into the tricks of the leader of great Armenia

Putin, with this Pashinyan, has no easy solutions.

[NTD]

Quote: Scipio

Fortunately for us, Putin, as practice shows, is much smarter than other leaders and will definitely not buy into the tricks of the leader of great Armenia

Given this situation, Putin has cemented his friendship with Azerbaijan.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MTN

Given this situation, Putin has cemented his friendship with Azerbaijan.

The situation here is simple, officially Karabakh has been the territory of Azerbaijan since 1923 until now. It is from these international norms that Putin proceeds.

[Hello from Baku]

Late to drink Borjomi.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Greetings from Baku

Late to drink Borjomi.

Is it time for "Ararat" and "Araspel Noah"?

[Hello from Baku]

If Pashinyan helps

[NTD]

Quote: Greetings from Baku

Late to drink Borjomi.

For 50 years, bro, we will live in peace. In 50-70 years, if their numbers increase, it will be necessary to start a war again. I'll change my name if they calm down. They will hide their emotions until they gain strength. They don't believe me, they minus me, but the truth is, as long as they are here, as long as the Armenians live in this region, you always have to be on the alert. Especially when their numbers increase. They are not peace-loving people. They will constantly torment their neighbors.

[Alexander Kopychev]

Well, that's what to do with you? There is a lack of peace at all times. I remember as a row. Sargsyan fiddled with a bayonet-knife in the shed and hysterical in tears: "I will cut the foreman!" (Ensign Aliyev, an Avar from Dagestan). How has the Caucasus angered the Lord that it has been inhabited by a "tangle of snakes" for centuries? No offense, just a metaphor.

[Oquzyurd]

These Boshi-Armenians walk in a circle, in the opposite direction of the clockwise. Balkans-Mediterranean-Eastern Anatolia-Caucasus-Russia-in the distance, probably, the Balkans again, as they gather on the shores of the Black Sea in Russia)

[_Ugene_]

Armenian Prime Minister sent a letter to the Russian President

the level of relations between them is impressive, since he is forced to write letters to Putin, or is this a special letter to document the fact of the appeal? and then shout that Russia did not help us so we go to NATO? there is an opinion that it is for this that Pashinyan merges Karabakh, and considering who brought him to power, it looks quite logical

[Hello from Baku]

Apparently Putin stopped taking the phone.

[NTD]

Quote: Greetings from Baku

Apparently Putin stopped taking the phone.

The client is ripe. I would not pick up the phone, it’s too early to promise something cunning there, or even more so to do for the sake of something. Azerbaijan has clearly defined the scale of the operation - only Karabakh. They are not interested in Armenia at the moment, so there is no threat to Armenia, IMHO.

[nnm]

Because words are just words, and words written on paper are already a DOCUMENT! As well as that written appeal of Yanukovych, which closed all the prospects of courts for Ukraine.

[Pensive Lawyer]

I fully support, words don't mean anything. True, judging by the fact that the Armenian side asks to start consultations, it should rather be about Art. 2 of the Collective Security Treaty of May 15, 1992, which specifically addresses this situation.

[Avior]

And what now falls under Article 2? No one threatens Armenia, and is not going to attack it

[Avior]

Yanukovych's powers did not provide for such a written request.
It is not surprising that it then disappeared and was never found.

[NTD]

Quote: _Ugene_

the level of relations between them is impressive since he is forced to write letters to Putin

After I read the contents of the letter which is addressed to Putin, at first it became disgusting to me how cynical you can be. This type in the letter wants to know the details of help, since he asks for them from Putin. It's tin. They really think that everything is going-about-you, or an already incurable diagnosis. The Russian Foreign Ministry answered them perfectly. The war is on the territory of Azerbaijan and no one threatens your security))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) I can imagine how they feel after such an answer)))) ))))))))))) They were merged and not only from Russia. Even Monsieur François is already draining.

[Well done]

All this is not good ...

[Tugarin]

I would turn to Soros for advice

[tralflot1832]

But what about the ideological principles on which Pashinyan came to power: Russia is out of Armenia! That an advertisement was hung on the gates of the US Embassy in Yerevan: No knocking, no one is at home! What is not clear 5 + 2 and with a white flag on the front line! to Putin BB, namely on the front line!

[sabakina]

It seems to me that someone else is speaking through Pashinyan's mouth ...

[sabakina]

Judging by the downsides, someone did not understand my deep thoughts. Well, the Lord is with them! Amen!

[sergo1914]

Quote: sabakina

Judging by the downsides, someone did not understand my deep thoughts. Well, the Lord is with them! Amen!

Maybe the thought was not so deep?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sabakina

Judging by the downsides, someone did not understand my deep thoughts.

Your thought is correct, but its minusors cannot be mistaken for reasonable. They are from a different camp.

[Mouse]

Again Russia is offered to rake ...

[Avior]

... and claims to its territory of the "Azerbaijani-Turkish aggressor"

Armenia does not seem to recognize Karabakh as an Armenian territory, the Azerbaijanis do not touch the territory of Armenia, it is not clear why Russia should get involved in the war.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Avior

... and claims to its territory of the "Azerbaijani-Turkish aggressor"

Armenia does not seem to recognize Karabakh as an Armenian territory, the Azerbaijanis do not touch the territory of Armenia, it is not clear why Russia should get involved in the war.

Well, it seems that the article in Russian says:

"To ensure the security of Armenia": Pashinyan turned to Putin for help

where is there even a word about the protection of the RF NKR?

[Avior]

Nobody attacks Armenia at all

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Avior

Nobody attacks Armenia at all

Well, it seems that the article in Russian says:

The reason for this call is called the approach of hostilities to the border of Armenia and claims to its territory "Azerbaijani-Turkish aggressor".

Read the whole article first, I believe you can master it, the text is small ...

[Avior]

And you start with my post, it's even shorter than an article, but you haven't mastered it either.
Azerbaijan has no claims to the territory of Armenia, therefore there are no reasons for this appeal.
So see?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Avior

And you start with my post, it's even shorter than an article, but you haven't mastered it either.
Azerbaijan has no claims to the territory of Armenia, therefore there are no reasons for this appeal.

And where did I write that the Russian Federation should fight for the NKR?

[Avior]

Read my post carefully

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

Armenia does not seem to recognize Karabakh as an Armenian territory, the Azerbaijanis do not touch the territory of Armenia

Well, this is not a contested fact, Karabakh is part of the territory of Azerbaijan.

[Avior]

Pashinyan has clearly an invented pretext for turning to Russia.

[primala]

"To ensure the security of Armenia": Pashinyan turned to Putin for help
=================
Where have you been before ... "kissed" with whom ...!?
The Armenian radio was asked:
- WHO are your doctors?
- WE.

[Lara Croft]

Now the Russian Federation will have to make an official statement, which it made relatively recently to the Republic of Belarus, that any external aggressor attacking the territory of Armenia, the RF Armed Forces will "knock off their hooves," as a result of which, some countries may have internal seas and additional straits on their territory, and Armenia with RF will have a joint border at the expense of their neighbors ...

[primala]

Quote: Lara Croft

Now the Russian Federation will have to make an official statement, which it made relatively recently to the Republic of Belarus, that any external aggressor attacking the territory of Armenia, the RF Armed Forces will "knock off their hooves," as a result of which, some countries may have internal seas and additional straits on their territory, and Armenia with RF will have a joint border at the expense of their neighbors ...

The campaign will have the UN to think about WHERE the planet is being pulled.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: primaala

The campaign will have the UN to think about WHERE the planet is being pulled.

Yes, it seems, since the creation of the UN, they never thought about who was pulling whom and where, starting with the Korean conflict.

[Vadim237]

Already done - Russia will not participate in this internecine conflict except diplomatically. Putin put an end to this issue.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Vadim237

Already done - Russia will not participate in this internecine conflict except diplomatically.

Until the BD spreads to the territory of Armenia, we have an agreement with Armenia on military assistance until 2044 and no one forced it to renew ...

Putin put an end to this issue.

That the Russian Federation will not fulfill its obligations regarding the territory of Armenia, when?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Vadim237

Already done - Russia will not participate in this internecine conflict except diplomatically. Putin put an end to this issue.

Wrong.

Russia reaffirmed allied commitments towards Armenia. Moscow will provide necessary assistance to Yerevan in accordance with the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance between the two countries, if the hostilities are transferred directly to the territory of Armenia... This is stated in the statement of the Foreign Ministry.

https://topwar.ru/176629-rossija-podtverdila-sojuznicheskie-objazatelstva-v-otnoshenii-armenii.html
Hello minus ...

[Alien From]

Not by washing, so by rolling .... This Armenians have already steamed up!

[Pessimist22]

Liberate territories and do not whine, you have been cleverly beaten.

[fa2998]

In fact, Azerbaijan is fighting on its own territory. The state border with Armenia has not been crossed. Whatever Russia undertakes, it has the right to refuse assistance. Well, of course, peacekeeping.
Well, what kind of foot the Kremlin will get up with, or what kind of fly bites our leaders, it may interfere.

[the finish]

The territory of Armenia itself was repeatedly bombed. Of which even Az -n himself acknowledged when he spoke for "preventive purposes".

[Oquzyurd]

This is the finish, mister finish) for 27 years they tried to persuade you, and you talked about the "spirit." Here is the spirit.

[NTD]

Quote: fa2998

In fact, Azerbaijan is fighting on its own territory.

Dear, even Armenia is located on the territory of the former Azerbaijan and at any time (of course, if Russia allows) Azerbaijani Parliament may annul 1918 document on transfer of Erivan as capital for Armenia and what will the Armenians do then? As you know, on May 29, 1918, by the decision of the National Council of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic (ADR), a decision was made to transfer Irevan and other territories to the Armenians, the echoes of which still echo with a bloody echo to the Azerbaijani people.

We did not give the present Zangilan to the Armenians, it was forcibly seized and Stalin deported the native Azerbaijani population from there. Armenians should know that we also know this. At any moment the corridor to Nakhichevan is our legal right. Therefore, pray day and night that your relations with Russia will not deteriorate.

Dear members of the forum, before you minus me, you better write and we will put all the points on your questions and then decide who is who. I talk to documents (internationally recognized)

[the finish]

Can you tell me what happened to the Kurdish Autonomous Region as part of Az-na, which existed at the dawn of the formation of the USSR, on the border between Armenia and the NKR on the territory of the present Lachin, Kubatly, Zangelan, Kelbajar regions? Why did Az-n liquidate the Kurdish autonomy?

[NTD]

Quote: finish

Can you tell me what happened to the Kurdish Autonomous Region as part of Az-na, which existed at the dawn of the formation of the USSR, on the border between Armenia and the NKR on the territory of the present Lachin, Kubatly, Zangelan, Kelbajar regions?

You ask a question and an answer at the same time. And taking into account the current situation in the world, as everyone is not too lazy to ask independence as the right of the people. It's like the 5th column inside the country. Therefore, I think Autonomy should be given either to peace-loving peoples, like the Tatars in Ufa, or not at all, like the Armenians, so that after a few years they begin to shout that this is the land of their ancestors.

Our territory is not like that of Russia. The country is small. Enough autonomies. No more autonomy to anyone! This autonomy will then be used by other countries as a lever of pressure.

[paul3390]

Armenia is located on the territory of the former Azerbaijan

All of you are temporarily frolicking on the territory of the Russian Empire ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MTN

As you know, on May 29, 1918, by the decision of the National Council of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic (ADR), it was decided to transfer Irevan and other territories to the Armenians,

An interesting thought from your side, but here is the question "What states was the ADR recognized by?", And all the more so in the period from May to October 1918 the territory of the ADR was occupied by Turkish troops, from November 1918 to August 1919 - by the British.
The ADR had the same international rights as Karabakh does now - that is, none.

[NTD]

Quote: tihonmarine

The ADR had the same international rights as Karabakh does now - that is, none.

I do not think so

On January 11, 1920, at the Paris Peace Conference, the Entente countries recognized the independence of Azerbaijan. A.M. Topchibashev was the chairman of the Azerbaijani delegation at the Paris Peace Conference. The government of Azerbaijan has prepared a memorandum on this matter: “The government and people of the Republic of Azerbaijan greeted with deep satisfaction the fact of the de facto recognition by the European powers of the independence of the Azerbaijani people and thereby accepting them among the members of the international community” (GAAR, f. 970, op. 3, 1, l. 1-2) Political representations of the republic operated in France, Iran, Dagestan, Georgia and other countries. Diplomatic missions of the ADR were established in the states of Western Europe and America.

The following foreign missions were in Baku: England, Belgium, Greece, Georgia, Denmark, Italy, Lithuania, Persia, Poland, USA, Ukraine, Finland, France, Switzerland, Sweden.

Information about our country, being translated into English, French, Russian, German and other languages, was disseminated through diplomatic channels all over the world.

23 months after the promulgation of the Declaration of Independence and three months after the de facto recognition in the international arena, the Republic of Azerbaijan was occupied by the troops of Bolshevik Russia.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MTN

The Parliament of Azerbaijan can annul the document of 1918 on the transfer of Erivan as the capital for Armenia and what will the Armenians do then?

Yes, Armenia will not do anything, Armenia, like Azerbaijan today, are internationally recognized independent countries by all states. But the ADR is not recognized by anyone, and Azerbaijan is not a receiver of the ADR. So the 1918 acts are just paper for history. But no one denies that Karabakh, the territory of Azerbaijan, was approved when the Azerbaijan SSR was created in April 1920.

[certero]

Russia already ensures the territorial integrity and security of Armenia. If it were not for Russia, what would Azerbaijanis stand next to the Armenian border and would not cross it?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

and wouldn’t cross it? ...... yes, in the course of another September, Yerevan would be renamed New Baku, well, or even Iizer’s, ..... but with Karabakh ..... everything is not clear already half a century, ..the locals have already decided ... won’t live like the Dnestr region and thrives, although it is also in an enclave between a rock and a hard place, and there’s no conflict, blue helmets if the parties separate

[All the memories]

Why rename it? Iravan. Originally Azerbaijani toponym

[the finish]

Nurlan Ibrahimov, the head of the press service of the Azerbaijani football club “Karabakh”, called for the killing of all Armenians ... This is how Aliyev proposes to live together in Artsakh!

[Observer2014]

"To ensure the security of Armenia": Pashinyan turned to Putin for help

Pashinyan is doing his dirty work. As if by notes. He provoked a conflict. Understandably loses. Now Russia help them kill. Well, who should we bomb for this little rag? Azerbaijan? Georgia? Turkey? Or help by winding and pleasing Iran through a narrow corridor? ” You cannot enter NATO with a territorial problem. The smart situation is not true colleagues. So what to do? The Armenians are essentially dragging Russia into a war, and a bloody one for many decades. We will not help the bad ones. We will help the bad ones again. Russia does not have a common border with Armenia. And they have no outlet to the sea. Serbia looks like

[parusnik]

Have you noticed that Pashinyan has never addressed the world community? At the UN, with the demand to convene the Security Council, but something like this, then to Russia, then to the United States? So that now they don't talk about the UN, but it was possible to raise the problem, but here the game is more cunning ...

[NTD]

Quote: parusnik

Has Pashinyan ever turned to the world community? At the UN,

This is how the UN tells them to get out of Karabakh with its under-army. On this and does not apply. Both the UN and Armenia are both hostages of those resolutions.

[Incvizitor]

Serbia is for the Russian Federation and these are hostile.

[Tuzik]

in support of the letter, let him arrange an anti-Russian march.

[Egor53]

Pashinyan simply admitted that Armenia is losing the war. This is good for Russia. Azerbaijan will take its territory, including Karabakh, and the war will end there.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Egor53

Pashinyan simply admitted that Armenia is losing the war. This is good for Russia. Azerbaijan will take its territory, including Karabakh, and the war will end there.

Let it end. The Karabakh Armenians known for their influence in Yerevan will lose their influence in Yerevan. Armenia will sign papers with the EU. Russia will start yelling and go away. You did not protect us in Karabakh. The course to NATO through Georgia. And even Turkey. Russian Armenians will get their Armenian passports and will fly around the world without visas. This will give them a competitive advantage over the Russians. Is this a normal prospect? Azerbaijan is also satisfied and happy. Direct oil painting turns out. Russia completely loses its influence in this region. That is, of course, if Nagorno-Karabakh is completely given to Azerbaijan.

[K-50]

Quote: Observer2014

Russian Armenians will get their Armenian passports and will fly around the world without visas. Thus, they will gain a competitive advantage over the Russians.

And what is this advantage?
Visiting the garbage heaps of Paris without a visa?
To score a joint in the Netherlands? See the rest of the Aegean parades?
Nafig-nafig such "advantage" !!!

[Observer2014]

Quote: K-50

Quote: Observer2014

Russian Armenians will get their Armenian passports and will fly around the world without visas. Thus, they will gain a competitive advantage over the Russians.

And what is this advantage?
Visiting the garbage heaps of Paris without a visa?
To score a joint in the Netherlands? See the rest of the Aegean parades?
Nafig-nafig such "advantage" !!!

Why isn't this an advantage? . Study, treatment, business development. Opportunities in life increase many times. Little? Do you know how Greeks live in Russia with dual citizenship, for example? Or are Germans in Russia receiving German allowances or pensions? Any Russian with dual citizenship receiving any kind of income from abroad? And you continue to worry about hey parades. And by the way, about Paris, where do you live in such Russian Versailles, if not a secret?

[K-50]

Quote: Observer2014

. Study, treatment, business development. Opportunities in life increase many times.

I think that if these have found "grandmothers" for everything that you have sounded / described, then it will not be difficult for them to pay "customs".

[Observer2014]

Quote: K-50

Quote: Observer2014

. Study, treatment, business development. Opportunities in life increase many times.

I think that if these have found "grandmothers" for everything that you have sounded / described, then it will not be difficult for them to pay "customs".

That's exactly what you think so. Life and reality thinks differently. From the word in general. And for the future, according to the classics. Watch less TV shows. Talk to people more live. It helps you stay in touch with reality.

[Incvizitor]

They might think Armenia will forget this.

[askort154]

"To ensure the security of Armenia": Pashinyan turned to Putin for help.

I spat, spat in the well, and now, when my mouth was dry, I decided to drink from it. The West needed it when it shouted - down with the Russian military base from Armenia.
When I realized that the West had no time for Armenia, I fell to my knees - Putin, help me. Who betrayed once, will betray more than once. As a result, the people suffer.

[NTD]

Quote: askort154

I spat, spat in the well, and now, when my mouth was dry, I decided to drink from it. The West needed it when it shouted - down with the Russian military base from Armenia.

It's a pity you can't see who minuses you for the truth. This feature is not fair in this forum.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: MTN

It's a pity you can't see who minuses you for the truth. This feature is not fair in this forum.

You, with your reputation, should change your nickname to "kick me".

[NTD]

Quote: Senka Mad

You, with your reputation, should change your nickname to "kick me".

in my case, this is from great love) I'm still a veteran. I've been here since 2012)

[yfast]

I would have recognized the NKR for decency, and then I would have written to Putin. But the question is not even mentioned. Paradox.

[rocket757]

That's when / if there is a threat of attack, then oh!
Just expect such nonsense from Aliyev ...
but from the Armenian side, how many hosh!

[Oquzyurd]

Pashinyan, at intervals (at night, when all the houses are asleep), threw 2 ballistic missiles into a residential quarter of Ganja, in order to call out the return anger from Aliyev, so that he, too, would fire polonaises-lore in Armenian cities. Pashinyan did everything (then bombarding Barda with cluster tornadoes), but Aliyev survived, did nothing with Armenia, only gave them a fat change in the fields of Karabakh. That is, Pashinyan was ready to sacrifice not only soldiers, but also the civilian population of Armenia, in order to achieve vile goals. But he did not succeed.

[rocket757]

In such a conflict, there will still be no truth, on either side. Peaceful people suffer and this cannot be avoided.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

from this almost half-century conflict, one thing is not clear ... but in Nagorno-Karabakh there are residents !!! 1 maybe they need to decide where to take root .. or to the Ayzers or to the Aram Ioi in the unrecognized ...

[DAQ]

Yes, they would have decided. Azerbaijan is against.
An agreement was almost signed in Kazan about 8 years ago. There was a point on self-determination, all citizens (Armenians and Azerbaijanis) living in Karabakh in 1991 were supposed to participate in the referendum. Everything was agreed in advance there. Obama and Putin congratulated everyone in advance.
Aliyev gave the back at the last moment.
If there is self-determination, then Karabakh will go to Armenia (first, independence, then unification).

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Yes, they would have decided. Azerbaijan is against ....... who wants to be determined is determined ... that is why the question arose .... and the inhabitants of NK are generally !!!! .... or only a couple of dozen goat herders?

[DAQ]

There was even a referendum. Nobody recognized him.
The population seems to be over 100.000 people.
By the time of the collapse of the USSR, more than 80% of the NKR population were Armenians.
Azerbaijan does not agree to self-determination, the result of the referendum will not suit Baku.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

like more than 100.000 people ... that is, 10 thousand of combat-ready citizens ... it's not so bad ... it remains to decide on the weapon in hand and not any Ayzerbadzhans ..... it's another matter that the Ars are cowardly and greedy. .. well, this is why it has been the custom since time immemorial

[DAQ]

it's another matter that ares are cowardly

I wouldn't say that. The fact that they are not ready for such a war, yes. They are bunched up and are substituted by UAV strikes, yes. They don't adapt quickly, yes. The command was not prepared for such a war, yes.
Underpants? They are shot there from the air like in a shooting range, but they try to resist. If there were cowards, they would have given up everything.

Azerbaijan has an overwhelming superiority in technology. And there is an ally (Turkey) who actively supports. And also superiority in human resources and in the economy.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Azerbaijan has an overwhelming superiority in technology ......... this superiority is not necessary ... Armenia is a member of the CSTO ... a shaft of weapons and all ... but the reasons for the defeat of the Osa air defense system are not clear, the impression is that it is stupid were abandoned, Osa is a fairly effective air defense system ... another alarming question, but where were the MANPADS calculations .... MANPADS in Armenia have a shaft and what does the latest type of Verba have ... why there are no high air losses from the azer ... for comparison .... while maintaining a database in Donbass, the UVS practically lost almost all of its aircraft fleet, especially losses among helicopters and unmanned vehicles, so that in Europe, the Ukrainian Armed Forces began to pull off any trash and even attract helicopters imprisoned in the UN ... they are ... not fighters

[Vadim237]

Probably the descendant as MANPADS, these drones do not see them too cold for their seeker as well as for Arrow 10, for the Wasp produced by the 80s Bayraktara targets are hardly visible due to the lack of a single air defense system and against the guided mini bombs with laser guidance MAM L all these air defense systems are generally useless since completely invisible to them.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Probably the descendant as MANPADS, these drones do not see them too cold for their seeker as ...... no need to invent and assume. Verba has a three-spectral IR GOS that detects heat from the hot gases of the jet engine to the heated parts of the airframe ....... the bikotour is cooled down with cryo-means ??? Needles all that moves in the air, driving the Air Force into full line ...... what is wrong with macaws !!!! conditions are ideal .....

[DAQ]

Needle-s, willow and Oka air defense systems in most cases will not reach the UAV in height.
Bayraktars fly high and can strike without entering the firing zone of the Karabakh air defense. There is almost nothing in modern air defense armament.
It turns out only if from the "mountain" or if the camouflaged Oka missile launches the UAV point-blank.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Bayraktars fly high and can strike without entering the firing zone ..... sheer profanity, ... the declared characteristics of the ceiling of this device (bikotar) does not exceed 8000 meters at sea level without load., With a load of STO FIFTY
kg. no more than 4000 meters ceiling, either ATGM or bombs of 50-100 kg are included in the combat load ... now a cursory calculation ... Nagorno-Karabakh is an average of 2000 meters above sea level, plus a vertical drop of up to 2 km ... the declared characteristics of MANPADS Verba 3.800 meters in height and 6000 meters in range ... for Verba, all sorts of bikotars are like hitting a standing one ...
all the more if we evaluate the video provided by the aisers on the destruction of armored vehicles of ares, the height is simply ... in short, the ares screwed up and point ... the warriors are suck ...

[Vadim237]

"If there were cowards, they would have given up everything long ago" - Yes, they are already giving up and running. With a high probability, thanks to the same UAVs, few people there want to become suicide bombers.

[NTD]

Quote: Nasdaq

By the time of the collapse of the USSR, more than 80% of the NKR population were Armenians.

Lies. There could not have been a population in the 80s up to 80% of Armenians. You have obvious Armenian infa.

[DAQ]

Lies. There could not have been a population in the 80s up to 80% of Armenians.

There is no need to stretch / stretch the facts as it is beneficial to you. Facts, they are "square".
At the time of the collapse of the USSR, this is 1991. Not 80s
I don't know about the 80s. But by 1991 there were more than 80% Armenians.
And that paramed Kazan agreement contained a clause on self-determination, which said that those who lived in the NKR in 1991, at the time of the collapse of the USSR, have the right to take part in the referendum. Moreover, this applies only to the NKR, and not to the residents of 7 districts, which went to the Armenians in the early 90s.

PS I try to be objective, but many people don't like it. They say that I am drowning for Armenians, then for Azerbaijanis.

[NTD]

Quote: Nasdaq

I don't know about the 80s. But by 1991 there were more than 80% Armenians.

but I believe in this date. Yes. But until the 90s, Azerbaijanis lived there and there were many of them. Therefore, Armenians are afraid of a referendum in Karabakh even now

[Avior]

"almost signed" is a weird phrase.
It would be more correct to say - no agreement was signed in Kazan.

[Master]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

from this almost half-century conflict, one thing is not clear ... but in Nagorno-Karabakh there are residents !!! 1 maybe they need to decide where to take root .. or to the Ayzers or to the Aram Ioi in the unrecognized ...

Yeah. Drive out the entire Azerbaijani population. And then hold a referendum? This is the first thing.
Secondly. If you are such an ardent supporter of the referendum. Then why did they bring troops into Chechnya? They also have the right to self-determination. Or does double standards prevent this? We can, but they can’t?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Yeah. To drive out the entire Azerbaijani population ....... and why drive them out ... in our Crimea, no one drove anyone out, whoever wanted he dumped himself, but most then returned and no one would pinch them and will not pinch them. .we have the largest population along the way according to nationality, there are settlements exclusively with the Ukrainian-speaking population, there are with the Tatar, who sabotaged the referendum, and then when the Crimean self-defense was still protecting the sites, monuments, on the border, the Tatars were already in line to obtain passports of the Russian Federation ..... no need to drive anyone ... let them decide how they should be
Then why did they bring troops into Chechnya? ... it was necessary to end with lawlessness ... and ended up together ... look at today's Chechnya ... this is peace and prosperity ... but in Karabakh, don't understand what is going on, ... not ars in the peace and prosperity of NK do not bring any eye ... ... the negotiation table should be such that the local would be given to decide how to be

[SVD68]

In fact, a referendum was held in Chechnya in 2003.

[sleeve]

Here you are! It is already clear that the Armenian border is locked. And even provocative shelling from their own territory on Azerbaijan will not affect. But the topic will be complicated. The Armenian army is defending its homeland right now. So you can. And even if these Russians demand to stop, then no, never not. Aliyev is never simple-minded. Even if Erodagan personally promises him anything, including a couple of buildings, he will never bully Russia. Moreover, so far everything looks like that from the outside, that it is not our war. Why change something in the safety of your state? But Nicolas really wants the Russians to get into the private Armenian batch in Karabakh. Do the Armenians themselves understand this? Do they understand why they were not invited to Syria and Georgia? Why nobody asks for Crimea?

[DAQ]

They understand why they were not invited to Syria

Well, all the CSTO members were invited to Syria. Armenia was the only one to respond and sent soldiers to Syria.
Let's be objective.
The fact that the Armenian border is locked is understandable.
This is rather an attempt to freeze the conflict, rather than drag Russia into the war. It is clear to everyone that Russia will not start military operations against Azerbaijan.
Pashinyan understands that if the conflict is not frozen now, then the matter is a pipe. He is trying with all his might to gain time.

[Sinugambi]

Pashinyan applied ...

But when Putin turned to Pashinyan with a request that he did not imprison former Prime Minister Kucheryan ... This little magpie gave the arrest order with a smile, etc.
Karma returned in a more brutal form .. Let him run to the Kremlin and beg on his knees to save Armenia.

[KAVBER]

There is only one way out, to cut this whole knot, and Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, must return to their usual state of the provinces of one empire, and then they will have silence and development and prosperity, and not a war in war.

[faterdom]

"I'm tired, I'm going!" - these are just four cherished words that Pashinyan must write and publicly say.
Everything else is emptiness and decay.

[Zaurbek]

There are a couple of points to note here.
1. Armenia is not threatened ...
2. To cool the hot minds, the forces of the Russian base in Gyumri will be enough.
3. To attack Armenia, Armenia itself needs to enter the conflict and the recognition of the NKR .... with mobilization, etc.
4. For full assistance, Armenia needs transit through Georgia, and this is another conflict.


A question for readers: what, apart from hemorrhoids, will the RF receive?


A more progressive option:
1. Armenia voluntarily enters the Russian Federation, with a referendum ..... and the NKR with the Armenians become a divided people of the Russian Federation and oppressed in Azerbaijan. Repetition of the situation in Donbass. But even here the question of logistics through Georgia arises ... and Georgia itself will also have to ask to become a part of the Russian Federation ...

[paul3390]

Armenia voluntarily enters the Russian Federation, with a referendum ...

Pah-pah-pah .. God forbid. Do we have an acute shortage of Armenians in the country? However - like the Azerbaijanis ..

[Zaurbek]

In this situation, the Russian Federation will get the territory ..... I mean it. And with any other, the Armenians will change their clothes

[KAVBER]

And Pashinyan needs not to scribble letters, but to hold a referendum on joining Russia

[silverwolf88]

Why didn't he come running to Soros or the US Embassy ... an "independent" independent politician))) ... the show-off is over ... help / save ...

[HAM]

https://youtu.be/Pz8Yvq8TzWw

And what about it ???

[Mik1701]

This is a serious argument. In the dry residue, Armenia needs to give what does not belong to it.

[t-12]

How about a hundred provocateurs? No way. Most Armenians are calm about Russia.

[sleeve]

What a good film ... My opinion about Armenia is getting stronger.

[Scipio]

Great Armenia turned to the occupier for help?

[demiurg]

Armenia declared war on anyone for the CSTO to start doing something? Well, or at least Armenia recognized the NKR?

[Linxs]

How they sang ... how they sang.

[Dimy4]

You will see with joy they will help. It's not the first time the Kremlin has stepped on a rake.

[Fedor Sokolov]

It's too late for Kolya to drink Borjomi, the kidneys have already fallen off! Say hello to Grandpa Soros!

[Magadan]

Good news!
Now let's look at Putin. And then we hear a lot about "rebirth" and "getting up from your knees", at least in geopolitical and military terms. With the Russian economy, the kirdyk is complete despite the oil and gas and other wealth that the kings and the "damned commies" left us. So what about weapons and military power in general?
I know, I heard about "miners are sitting-on-f ..." and "we will not-let-ourselves-get-tricked" ... sorry, it seems about Donbass was in 2014 ...
I know, I heard about "Pashinyan-sam-" and "Armenians-not-brothers". Only, gentlemen, the faithful zaputintsy and other fiery United Russia members, do not blow our ears. In Russia, we Russians (and not only Russians) regard the Armenians as allies. And the Turks for the enemies.
And if the enemy is not defeated, then the latest myths about Putin will collapse. He will not be better than EBN, who passed the Serbs in due time.
Note: Turkey's economy is on fire. One blow to Perdogan by the hands of the Syrians and kirdyk to the Ottomans.
If, of course, all that was true was about Russian super weapons ...

[sleeve]

What a cheap provocateur you are ... Well, just any expensive. I thought everyone was here.

[Operator]

There is only one option: Armenia must submit a request to join the Russian Federation, especially since there are more Armenians living here than in the Transcaucasus.

[igor1981]

Are you not friends with your head at all? We need them, stop stepping on the same rake.

[Operator]

Learn to read - we already have more Armenians than in Armenia, and in the event of Pashinyan's surrender, they will all move to us.

[fn34440]

"We need them, stop stepping on the same rake."
There are millions of them ALREADY. They are Christians.
Needed as a counterweight to the minus-Muslim avalanche-like dominance.

[Sergej1972]

There are 3 million Armenians in Armenia, 2 million in Russia.

[Bilal]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Evil543

Who would doubt that.

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

Let no one worry. Armenia will not fly away. When they declare such a desire, Russia will "suddenly" instantly remind them about repaying loans (official and non-official). Why do you think Russia is hastily sending so many weapons to them, knowing in advance that nothing will shine for the Armenians. The answer lies on the surface. Increasing the "bill for presentation" for any fire-fighting "Soros" cases, from which Armenia will not be able to free itself for many years ...

[7,62x54]

When you squeeze out a part of the territory, be prepared that it will be returned by force. And it was necessary to prepare for this. Both in the political sphere and in the military. And so it turns out that the Armenians themselves did not recognize Karabakh, there is discord with its neighbors, the army is not ready to fight, and in Armenia itself there was a coup. Sip yourself with a big spoon.

[Otshelnik]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3893309127347349&id=100000049006503

[iouris]

Assistance to Armenia can be rendered only together with "rendering assistance" to Azerbaijan (with Turkey). Then already Georgia.

[Oleg133]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Evil543

Who would doubt that.

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

At least, at least
Tired of such allies

[Svetlana]

it was not Pashinyan who turned to Putin, then Armenia turned to Russia for help.

[iouris]

No. Your answer is wrong.

[igor1981]

We can help the Armenians from Russia. Only I think they will not voluntarily leave Russia. Most likely, there will soon be an influx of them to Russia.

[Prisoner]

Why isn't the USA helping? Probably, our base has already ceased to interfere with the extremely independent Armenians? But what about these? They are, according to the present times, do not go to the fortuneteller, agents of Baku, or even that trenchant Erdogan.

[svoit]

Quote: Senka Mad

Who is threatening Armenia? Maybe she is fighting with whom?

Armenia may well do like Russia on 08.08.08 (as well as the US and NATO countries in 1999), and try to force Azerbaijan to peace (at the same time, recognizing the independence of the NKR, on a parity basis, Russia also recognizes the NKR, and Armenia also recognizes South Ossetia, Transnistria, DPR, LPR, Abkhazia, and Crimea as part of Russia), and restore the status quo on September 26.09. Russia will not be against this either, because we already have such experience. At the same time, there is no need to declare war on Azerbaijan (does anyone remember Russia declared Georgia?), Because it just forces peace

[9PA]

The demonstrative silence of the Kremlin. First, they make Poshinyan in the mud. All Armenians, why do we need Russia too. And then more and more often I hear why we need Russia from the Kazakhs

[bald]

Actually, they pinned us, so to speak, to the wall, drawing us into the conflict. And the situation for us is oh, how rotten. Nagorno Armenia is losing, at best, the peoples of both states, in Karabakh they will have to live together, although I cannot imagine how they will get along after all this. And then there is this shortfall Erdogan and the mole of Armenia Pashinyan.

[Radical]

Armenia asks Russia to start consultations on assistance in ensuring the country's security. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has made a request to Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Armenian Foreign Ministry reported.

Yeah, when the chair began to smoke under the fifth “point”, and there was a threat to appear before the court of the Armenian people, he rushed to the guarantor’s feet with a request to ensure the safety of... this fifth “point”!

[Growlers]

The crafty pro-American Armenian did not give up trying to drag Russia into the conflict

[Azimuth]

Pashinyan turned on the fool and continues to write nonsense about Turkish-Azerbaijani aggression. They are running with their heels shining even from the Azerbaijani army, where else is Turkey, if it joined the war of the Armenians from the entire Transcaucasia, it will be blown away by the wind, and next season we will watch Pashik at sea and take pictures with him instead of the monkey.

All our well-known Armenians close to the top made it clear and direct to him, not through some secret channels, but in open letters, which was intended for a wide audience of Armenians living both here and in Armenia - Pashik GO AWAY, the mouthpiece was already brought to his ear and tell him clearly WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO. But he doesn’t hear, he doesn’t understand that his respect, or even obedience and fear towards Moscow should be higher and stronger than those towards Washington and others, that his lack of understanding means dozens of Armenian youths born in 2000-2001 dying every day.

Of course, we will protect Armenia, and Azerbaijan will not go beyond its borders and what we have outlined, but if Armenia wants protection and support in Karabakh, which goes beyond the scope of our formal obligations from which we do not refuse, that is, they want an extra bonus, then we need to lead behave appropriately, and not show your temper with or without reason. And there is no need to talk about the tyranny of Moscow; there are no countries anywhere in the world with a population of 3, but in fact 1,8-2,2 million. pursuing an “independent and sovereign policy,” these countries have only a choice of which camp to join and in whose shadow to stand. so either Pashik will make a choice, or otherwise it will be too late and the Armenians themselves will hang him on a lamppost, because this war is his and only his hands, the work of his masters, he did more to start it in a couple of years than Aliyev did in 25 years.

[Arnaut]

“I don’t know what will happen with you, but with us, not a single cannon in Europe dared to fire without our permission.”
Attributed to Catherine the Great

In fact, in the Caucasus, until recently, all issues were resolved by Russia alone.
Then Russia slept through the “revolutions” in Georgia and Armenia. Now the Turks decide when to start and when to stop the war in the Caucasus. And the “cartoons” of the work of Turkish and Israeli weapons are much more colorful than the presentations of Russian superweapons.
Pashinyans come and go, but countries close to Russia remain. If Russia does not hit the table with an iron fist now (literally a couple of weeks), Russia will have no place at this table. Russia can't - the US will solve the problem.

Similarly in Belarus, if you drag your feet now, the new/old US president will tap into reserves and do everything to make 2-3 generations hate Russia.

[Pensive Lawyer]

I do not agree with you.
The Russian Federation did not “sleep through” the revolution; our foreign policy course has changed. Precisely because of Ukraine and the results of the policy of understanding, assistance and support, which did not prevent the establishment of anti-Russian ideology there.
We make less and less concessions to our neighbors, we try more and more (there is no need to talk about results, when you start doing something new, it always doesn’t work out very well at first, the key word is “trying”) to direct forces and funds to our own development.
Cartoons... We also filmed a lot of them in Syria, and no less colorful, so let them film them here.
As for close countries, they are all close only geographically. Everyone has their own interests.
And for a place at the table you don’t need to bang your fists. It is necessary that the neighbors want “like ours.” To use force, it is necessary to delineate boundaries for the parties to the conflict, after crossing which the “big brother” reaction follows. Here the border is extremely clear - the territory of Armenia. If they climb there, we’ll cool their ardor. If they don’t interfere, well done, we’ll just watch “cartoons”, draw conclusions, learn from other people’s mistakes.
The United States is also not eager to go there. Helping Armenia poses even bigger problems with Turkey as a NATO ally. The Armenian lobby, which is quite strong in the United States, will also not understand helping Azerbaijan, and with tensions within the country, the Americans are already not going smoothly; they do not want to add discontent among the Armenians to the BLM movement.

The minus is not mine))

[Old Kaa]

Pashinyan is not asking Russia to fight in NGOs. Most likely, he needs firm and official guarantees that Russia will stand up for Armenia if Turkey (not Azerbaijan) attacks Armenia. And this, in turn, is possible if Armenia recognizes Karabakh.
Recognition of Karabakh will most likely mean a full-scale war between Armenia and Azerbaijan with attacks on infrastructure, cities, and so on. Apparently Pashinyan is preparing to recognize Karabakh.

[opuonmed]

current if Armenia becomes part of the Russian Federation or expels the State Department and is allowed to build bases where we need the Russian Federation!

[Vadim237]

Who is who, and these slackers and lovers of freebies are definitely not needed by Russia.

[Diverter]

support

[Knell wardenheart]

Yes, 2020 was a great success, if we get into this too, it’s just some kind of festival..

[Kot_Kuzya]

Little piglet in hysterics . It was a shame for the Armenians to jump for the little Pashinyan and jump in 2018 with Russophobic slogans. Get what you deserve! For help, turn to your US friends. Russophobia must be expensive. Very expensive!
Azerbaijanis are our brothers, there are many Turkic and Islamic peoples in Russia, such as Tatars, Bashkirs, Yakuts, Tuvinians and others, and the Russians have excellent relations with them. Russians do not divide people into races and religions, unlike Macron, Putin does not say that Charlie Hebdo’s act is a “commendable act.” This act is simply disgusting.

[Lesorub]

On October 31, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin

Pashanyan needs to ask for help from Soros and Trump - it’s more logical, or the “democratic West” is no longer helping.

[Cottager452]

Any country in such a situation would have asked for help (Stalin also turned to Churchill, Roosevelt and others), and it never occurred to anyone that he wanted to fight Hitler with the wrong hands and drag other countries into his squabbles.
Russia has the right to provide assistance. If not, Armenia will be forced to look for other allies (USA, France, Greece). Everything is within the framework of accepted international norms. There is no shame or betrayal here.

[Diverter]

after 2018, let him look for other allies.

[Astra55]

So again Russia must clean up your shit

[maktub]

In my amateurish opinion, this appeal is nothing more than an ultimatum. Since there is an appeal to an agreement “on friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance,” that means the “Russian presence” in Armenia is at stake.
Translated into simple language: - either you help or Russian go home, we will find someone who will help.

[Cottager452]

No, of course. Politics is not a game of rounders, it is a bargaining between the parties. Roughly speaking, Russia can help the Armenians give up Karabakh and get a small
an oil field in Syria or control over Idlib. There are many interested parties here and the price list has many items from large wholesale to small items.

[Rostislav]

I jumped.
Everything is like everyone else, at first, there were cries of “Russians out”, and Russian business had problems, Russian channels were closed, and the embassy’s staff numbered up to 2000 people. quickly grew, and now “save me, father.”

[fa2998]

Quote: primaala

does not speak Russian. It’s immediately clear...who he “works” for.

Excuse me, but is it possible to be the president or prime minister of a foreign state if you don’t speak Russian? Maybe our State Duma will issue the law! There is no need to look for a conspiracy; the international language is English.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

remember how it started to burn
on the eve

[Whirlwind]

The Turks and Azerbaijanis are now putting lotions on the Armenians’ entire heads, maybe they’ll cure them...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

unlikely
I have an Armenian neighbor, I wouldn’t wish that “happiness” on my enemy

[Whirlwind]

Sorry. Let Pashinyan not call Putin, but your neighbor. And we have no reason to harness ourselves for them. The Americans rule there and they have one goal - to drag Russia into another Caucasian war. For this purpose they installed the provocateur Pashinyan...

[Whirlwind]

When did we become allies? No sooner had the United States installed Pashinyan as king than he declared that he was ready to leave the CSTO and join NATO. With such an ally there is no need for enemies...

[fa2998]

Quote: MTN

Dear, even Armenia is located on the territory of the former Azerbaijan and at any time

You don’t know history well! Both Azerbaijan and part of Turkey and other states are on the territory of “Great Armenia.” It was then that they were driven into the mountains. The territory of Armenia shrank like shagreen leather. Open the atlas and see where the city of Ararat, beloved by Armenians, is located.

[fa2998]

Quote: Arnaut

And the “cartoons” of the work of Turkish and Israeli weapons are much more colorful than the presentations of Russian superweapons.

[DominickS]

They will help, no doubt. Armenians have a good lobby in Moscow.

[no better place for]

How high is that? First, occupy part of someone else's territory. Slaughter some and expel the rest of the population. And then when they start to persecute shouting wai mamajan genocide Russia help, you are obliged to fight for us while we are hanging out in Moscow and Los Angeles and Paris. If the Diaspora chips in a dollar, Armenia’s 3-year budget will be filled. But they need it for free. And so that others would fight and then hand it over to them. So that later they, small but proud, lead an independent policy

[K-50]

They were screaming “Russia is an occupier, get out!”, and now Russia must save them?
Aren't you going to choke on your saliva? You are like cockroaches in the vastness of Russia! Why don’t you contact your compatriots? Or they already have a good life in Russia, why should they fight?
Why should our boys save you? For what kind of "gums"?
If you can't defend yourself, don't bark from under the fence!!!
Shut up and be patient!!

[From Tomsk]

We need help. I propose to give Simonyan and Keasoyan machine guns and send them to protect Pashinyan.

[nnz226]

Why should Russia save Armenia?! Through the efforts of Pashinyan and his gang, the slogan is being cultivated in Armenia: “Russia is an occupier! Get out!” And after this we owe Armenia something?! Seems OK!

[Ganja]

The war has been going on for more than a month, I still haven’t seen a single Armenian on social networks, not on media of any stripe who would point to the Soviet era, and this is after all the defeats, rubbing, reproach from a neighbor and finally four resolutions UN Security Council. This is pride, by no means, because proud people would not humiliate themselves with such treatment as this is determined by the form of help. I personally think this is the ingratitude and unprincipledness of these people, because throughout their history the Armenians (not just them) have not lived so well under any government or system, and strangely enough, these people, in the form of gratitude, played one of the main roles in the collapse of the state that gave them everything .Based on this, we can say with confidence that for any help from anyone, the Armenians will respond with spitting, if not on the face then on the trail, that’s for sure

[Diverter]

during the general chaos, the Armenians wrested Karabakh from the Azeris. Azerbaijan has learned its lessons and is now beating the Armenians. In fact, returning what is yours. He does the right thing. The Armenians of the Russian Federation are needed only to place their base near the Turkish borders. Don't forget that the Turks are a NATO bloc. There are no more reasons for the need for Armenians! All this hysteria about saving the Armenians is being supported to drag us into another mess.

[flicker]

The reason for this appeal is the approach of hostilities to the border of Armenia and the claims of the “Azerbaijani-Turkish aggressor” to its territory.

Yes, but somehow the role of Israel has been undeservedly forgotten. All Turks, yes Turks... and Israel may be offended that it has been forgotten, they deliver so much loitering ammunition to Azerbaijan, they even report about the “Jewish Express”.
Maybe the Armenians should organize some kind of “express” ... for some Palestinians?

[AAK]

There is room for maneuver:
- as assistance, Russia can send representatives of Russian diasporas of both nationalities to both Armenia and Azerbaijan... Only with expired registration will they recruit a couple of divisions on both sides...;
- Pashinyan must repent live loudly, in pure Russian and, preferably, on his knees, and then give an unequivocal answer to the question: “Whose Crimea?”... What scripture teaches - if you don’t repent, you won’t be saved...

[Old26]

Quote: parusnik

Have you noticed that Pashinyan has never addressed the world community? At the UN, with the demand to convene the Security Council, but something like this, then to Russia, then to the United States? So that now they don't talk about the UN, but it was possible to raise the problem, but here the game is more cunning ...

So the UN has already spoken. There are at least 4 resolutions of the UN Security Council (90s), in which Armenia was directly asked to liberate the occupied regions of Azerbaijan and the territory of Karabakh was recognized as the territory of Azerbaijan. So if they contact the UN Security Council, they will be sent far, far away.

Quote: Zaurbek

There are a couple of points to note here.
1. Armenia is not threatened ...
2. To cool the hot minds, the forces of the Russian base in Gyumri will be enough.
3. To attack Armenia, Armenia itself needs to enter the conflict and the recognition of the NKR .... with mobilization, etc.
4. For full assistance, Armenia needs transit through Georgia, and this is another conflict.

A question for readers: what, apart from hemorrhoids, will the RF receive?

A more progressive option:
1. Armenia voluntarily enters the Russian Federation, with a referendum ..... and the NKR with the Armenians become a divided people of the Russian Federation and oppressed in Azerbaijan. Repetition of the situation in Donbass. But even here the question of logistics through Georgia arises ... and Georgia itself will also have to ask to become a part of the Russian Federation ...

I will touch only on a few points from your post.

p.3

To attack Armenia, Armenia itself needs to enter the conflict and recognize the NKR....with mobilization, etc.

There is no official entry of Armenia into the war, but personnel in Karabakh are fighting, among others. from Armenia. But even this is not the main thing. If you look at what Armenia has and what Karabakh has, then among those destroyed there are such as the Tochka complex, the Smerch MLRS, and the S-300 air defense system. But according to open data, the NKR defense army does not have this weapon at all. What does it mean? How Armenia unofficially entered the war. After all, everyone understands perfectly well that “when we say Karabakh, we mean Armenia.” In fact, it is unofficially participating in the war with Azerbaijan.

p.4

for full assistance to Armenia, transit through Georgia is needed, and this is another conflict.

This transit is not feasible. Georgia will never agree to give us a corridor. And shipping via Iran by plane is, sorry, expensive. And we will have to pay this high cost.

A more progressive option:
1. Armenia voluntarily enters the Russian Federation, with a referendum ..... and the NKR with the Armenians become a divided people of the Russian Federation and oppressed in Azerbaijan. Repetition of the situation in Donbass. But even here the question of logistics through Georgia arises ... and Georgia itself will also have to ask to become a part of the Russian Federation ...

Do we, Russians, need it for Armenia to become part of Russia? Do we have few subsidized regions? Do you want a progressive option - another subsidized region to which there will be no direct access?
Will NKR with Armenians become a divided people oppressed by Azerbaijan? In principle, a fairly large number of Armenians live in Azerbaijan and are not an oppressed people. And here. Have you decided to place the headache of Armenia-Karabakh-Azerbaijan on the head of Russia? Thank you very much for such a progressive option. And especially that Georgia will ask to be part of Russia.... I didn’t think you were so naive

Quote: KAVBER

And Pashinyan needs not to scribble letters, but to hold a referendum on joining Russia

Did they ask Russia? Does Russia want to have Armenia in its composition???

[georggy]

Let them turn to the fraternal Americans.

[iouris]

And there is no need to contact these, they will send troops to guard the largest US embassy.

[Vlad Pervovich]

free ...

[boomerang.]

Is the help he received from France not enough for Pashinyan? The French drew a caricature of Erdogan. If this is not enough, then the French can wear skirts in order to support Pashinyan.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Remove the base and send this lop-eared guy to, well, you know where.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Here are just a few blatant facts of Armenian terrorism: January 27, 1973. Santa Barbara, USA.
At the Baltimore Hotel, Turkish Chief Consul in Los Angeles Mehmet Baydar and Consul Bahadur Damir were brutally murdered by an Armenian named Gurgen Yanikyan on April 4, 1973. France.
Armenian terrorists detonated bombs near the Turkish Consulate and the Turkiye Hava Yolları Airlines. It was only by luck that there were no casualties. February 7, 1975. Lebanon.
"The gang of prisoner Gurgen Yanikyan", a member of the Armenian terrorist organization ASALA, set off explosions in the buildings of the Turkish Information Agency and the Turkish Tourism Bureau.
October 22, 1975. Vienna, Austria.
Three armed Armenians attacked the Turkish Embassy and brutally killed Turkish Ambassador Danish Tunaligili. They stated that they were members of the Secret Armenian Freedom Army (ASALA)
October 28, 1975. Beirut, Lebanon.
Armenian terrorists rocketed the Turkish Embassy.
February 16, 1976. Beirut, Lebanon.
The first secretary of the Turkish Embassy, ​​Oktar Jiri, was brutally killed by Armenian terrorists.
May 17, 1976. Germany.
The bombings of the Turkish consulates in Frankfurt, Essen and Cologne, organized by Armenian terrorists.
May 29, 1977. Istanbul, Turkey.
Explosion at Yesil Köy Airport - 5 killed, 42 injured; explosion at Sirkeci station - 1 killed, 10 injured. The Armenian May 28 Organization claimed responsibility for the explosions.
June 9, 1977. Vatican.
The Turkish Ambassador to the Vatican, Taha Jarim, was brutally murdered near his home by two Armenian terrorists. January 2, 1978. Belgium.
The building in which the Representative Office of Turkish Banks was located was completely destroyed by a powerful explosion on July 2, 1978. Madrid, Spain.
Three Armenian terrorists attacked the car of the Turkish Ambassador, Zaki Kuneral. Armed with automatic weapons, the Armenians killed the ambassador, his wife Nezhla Kuneral and the former Turkish ambassador to this country Bashir Balci-oglu. August 22, 1979. Geneva, Switzerland.
An Armenian terrorist threw a hand grenade at the car of the Turkish consul Niyazi Adal. In this case, the consul was not injured, but two bystanders - Swiss - were injured. October 12, 1979. Netherlands.
Turkish Ambassador Ozdemir Benler and his son Ahmad were killed in their own car by Armenian terrorists. Drive them out of the CSTO. Continue ?

[tolmachiev51]

Neither steal nor watch!!! It's a pity that because of such weak-minded "politicians" people are dying. You should be judged by a tribunal, Comrade Pashinyan.

[Adimius38]

Pashinyan is not Pashinyan, but Turkey must be stopped, otherwise the Turks will reach Anapa

[Mikhalych]

Why don’t the Armenians turn to the Americans? After all, they have peace, friendship, chewing gum, and we are bad guys for them. Why should the Russians fight for them? And lastly: in Syria, Russian air defenses shoot down all plywood drones, and in Karabakh, Turkish UAVs behave like sharks in a school of herrings. Why?

[Motorhead]

Let Uncle Sam ask him to “start urgent consultations.”

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Evil543

Who would doubt that.

If Russia refuses Armenia's allied assistance, then this is a reason for Pashinyan to blame Russia for all the troubles and begin a full-scale turn to the west.

She's already there.