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Kravchuk spoke about Russia's new proposal for Donbass

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Kravchuk spoke about Russia's new proposal for Donbass

At the negotiations of the Trilateral Contact Group (TGC) on Donbass, representatives of Russia put forward a new proposal to Ukraine regarding the implementation of the Minsk Agreements. This was announced by the head of the Ukrainian delegation to the TCG Leonid Kravchuk.


According to Kravchuk, last Wednesday during the next round of negotiations, held in the videoconference mode, Russia made a new proposal to the Ukrainian delegation to resolve the situation in Donbass.

A completely different question arose for our opponents, Russia in particular - it is necessary to find new approaches and, as they said, to take and consider a decision on a new system or, as they said, new steps, a new step-by-step map - how to change the situation over many years ahead


However, according to Kravchuk, Ukraine is not ready to consider these Russian proposals. Instead, Kiev intends to propose its own "peace" plan. What the Ukrainian proposal will consist of, Kravchuk did not explain.

(...) Ukraine is not ready to consider this tomorrow. We will prepare our vision, our plan of action, we took a week of time for this. We will prepare an action plan in which we will build our next actions, steps, decisions necessary in order to achieve peace in Donbass. Our OSCE moderator, Ms. Grau, agreed. (...) On November 11, we will already consider this step-by-step action plan, how we will act in all areas of life in Donbass. Perhaps this is the main thing for us

- he said.

Meanwhile, as it became known, the Ukrainian delegation requested an emergency meeting of the TGC safety subgroup. The reason for this was the death of two Ukrainian servicemen in the area of ​​the contact line in Donbas. Kiev accuses LDNR of shelling Ukrainian positions, which in turn led to the death of the Ukrainian military.

Ukrainian delegation initiates an emergency meeting of the security subgroup in the trilateral contact group

- said the adviser on information policy of the Ukrainian delegation at the negotiations Alexey Arestovich.

According to the commander of the power operation, General Vladimir Kravchenko, the republics are trying to thwart the July 22 ceasefire agreement. The general announced the opening of return fire by the Ukrainian military.



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  1. iouris
    iouris 30 October 2020 12: 13
    +4
    All these negotiations are pointless. This question will be resolved by itself.
    1. Machito
      Machito 30 October 2020 12: 24
      10
      Ukraine's plans have been known for a long time: the destruction of the republics and all the dissatisfied, the establishment of Nazi power. Ukraine has a good appetite, but its teeth are rotten. The conditions are always dictated by the winner, but the victory was stolen from Donbass. However, time is working for Donetsk: the ship Ukraine ran into the iceberg Donbass, and received a fatal hole. Sooner or later, Ukraine will go to the bottom. But how much will it cost in lives?
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 30 October 2020 13: 32
        +1
        according to Kravchuk, Ukraine is not ready to consider these Russian proposals. Instead, Kiev intends to propose its own "peace" plan. What the Ukrainian proposal will consist of, Kravchuk did not explain.

        By the way, the Turkish "sultan" Erdogan (and not only the Anglo-Saxons and their henchmen in Kiev) also does not need peace in Ukraine because of Erdogan's commitment to the strategic ideological policy of the "Muslim Brotherhood" (a banned terrorist organization) in relation to Crimea.
        That is, the Muslim Brotherhood, whose zealous patron both in Turkey itself and in Ukraine and in other countries is Erdogan himself.
        Erdogan does not need peace in Ukraine in the same way as Erdogan does not need peace between Azerbaijanis and Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh without his personal participation and thereby recognition and acceptance there - in the Caucasus - of the policy of radical Islamism by Erdogan himself, the expression of which was ISIS.

        Hence the rehearsals and agreements between Zelensky and Erdogan - Ukraine and Turkey - regarding the supply and production of Turkish UAVs and other weapons at enterprises in Ukraine itself.

        Hence, the DPR's message about yesterday's provocative drone firing of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of the DPR territory in violation of Ukraine's declared truce between Ukraine and the LPR. A provocative violation by Ukraine, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine categorically refuses of itself.

        In other words, it makes sense at the same time to suspect and talk about the direct interference of Erdogan and Turkey in the internal affairs of not only Azerbaijan, Georgia, but also Ukraine, as well as around the world of the EU countries. In the same France.

        All this world policy of Erdogan and Turkey was brilliantly and frankly analyzed by expert Yakov Kedmi! I completely agree with him.

        The shocking truth from Kedmi! Honestly about Turkey: “It's time to speak openly.” • Oct 27. Feb 2020
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 30 October 2020 21: 05
          -2
          A step-by-step settlement program was proposed not by Russia, but by representatives of the DPR and LPR on October 14 at a meeting of the Trilateral Contact Group in Minsk.
          However, from the point of view of Kravchuk, this is one and the same

          https://topcor.ru/17137-konec-russkoj-vesny-donbass-predlagaet-sdatsja.html?yrwinfo=1604080844207587-412947202056324608900107-production-app-host-man-web-yp-180
        2. Warrior-80
          Warrior-80 30 October 2020 22: 33
          -2
          Something Kedmi, in my opinion, is from a wild Budun, although he says the right things, he constantly licks his lips, torments the dry forest laughing
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 31 October 2020 11: 52
        0
        Quote: Bearded
        Sooner or later, Ukraine will go to the bottom.

        Stormy fantasies of the cheers-patriots
    2. Astra55
      Astra55 30 October 2020 12: 25
      +7
      While the diplomats speak, the guns are silent
      1. novel66
        novel66 30 October 2020 13: 03
        +4
        nope! nifiga are not silent
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 30 October 2020 12: 13
    11
    Resurrected again! Yes, hammer in a stake of aspen or something, well, whoever gets out of the graves out there.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 30 October 2020 12: 37
      +6
      Quote: Dimy4
      Resurrected again! Yes, hammer in a stake of aspen or something, well, whoever gets out of the graves out there.

      There won't be enough aspens. There, how many stakes do not hammer, the situation cannot be corrected. similar ghouls in Ukraine have spawned for decades to come. Only the complete disintegration of this rotten territorial misunderstanding is a guarantee that healthy state formations will form on its ruins, which will tear away from themselves all this "independent-servant" rot, which should be promoted in every possible way and what should be strived for.
      1. vVvAD
        vVvAD 30 October 2020 13: 40
        +1
        The collapse of the USSR 2.0? And where is the guarantee that these micro-pseudo-states will be able to come to an agreement even among themselves, without continuing the slaughter? Or that our Western "partners" will not try to take them under control or play off?
        "We will destroy the whole world of violence: To the foundation, and then: We are ours, we will build a new world - Who was nothing, he will become everything" ©
        And "who will become everything" - just another selfishly corrupt local potentates? And who will "then" pay for the banquet? We - and we need it ?! West - and we need conflicts flaring up with renewed vigor instead of fading ones?
        Just look at how bureaucratic they have become in the LPNR - they are not in a position to bring their legislation closer even through the implementation of the Russian one!
        There are also people living in / in Ukraine, and people are adequate, speaking Russian. Would you like to die for
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        on its wreckage

        ? And they don't want to!
        WELL AND WHAT DO YOU OFFER ?!
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 30 October 2020 16: 46
          0
          Quote: vVvAD
          The collapse of the USSR 2.0? And where is the guarantee that these micro-pseudo-states will be able to come to an agreement even among themselves, without continuing the slaughter? Or that our Western "partners" will not try to take them under control or play off?
          ................. In / in Ukraine people also live, and people are adequate, speaking Russian. Would you like to die for
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          on its wreckage

          ? And they don't want to!
          WELL AND WHAT DO YOU OFFER ?!

          I am not suggesting this is already happening. The recent elections in Ukraine showed that the east and west of Ukraine diverge ideologically and mentally. "Spravzhnyh patritive", as well as "servants of the people" were given a ride in the East. I absolutely do not mind if part of Ukraine will return under the patronage of Russia, and some will return to Hungary, Romania and Poland. Let the West take the remaining stub for itself. But this is possible only in the event of the disintegration of this territorial entity. Making attempts to preserve Ukraine in the form in which it is today will be many times more expensive for us, not only financially, but also in terms of human losses, since the goal of the West is to make a ram out of Ukraine against Russia, and therefore the smaller the ram, the easier ...
          1. vVvAD
            vVvAD 30 October 2020 19: 14
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            because the goal of the West is to make a ram from Ukraine against Russia, and therefore the smaller the ram, the easier.

            I agree - western Ukraine is mentally alien to us, and to the South-East and central Ukraine. And, I do not exclude this, perhaps he himself will split off - then he should not be disturbed. But the rest of Ukraine can be a ram. It must remain unified, preferably federal, and return to the mainstream of good-neighborly relations. Donbass is an open question - how Ukraine and these territories will express itself in the process. And we do not know the future - perhaps in 100 years there will be no such state, and Russia will be called differently.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 30 October 2020 20: 08
              +2
              Quote: vVvAD
              I agree - western Ukraine is mentally alien to us, and to the South-East and central Ukraine. And, I do not exclude this, perhaps he himself will split off - then he should not be disturbed. But the rest of Ukraine can be a ram. It must remain unified, preferably federal, and return to the mainstream of good-neighborly relations. Donbass is an open question - how Ukraine itself and these territories will express itself in the process.

              Well, actually, I spoke about the same thing, but in a slightly different way.
              Quote: vVvAD
              And we do not know the future - perhaps in 100 years there will be no such state, and Russia will be called differently.

              Here it is definitely "by". Russia celebrated the millennium of the baptism of Rus! Russia will also celebrate its two millennium! But somehow it turns out that Ukraine itself has abandoned the fact that it, like no one else, is an integral part of the millennium, presenting itself as a counterweight to Russia. You yourself do not find some contradiction in this, despite the fact that Russia does not abandon the common history associated with the current Ukrainian territory, and Ukraine is struggling to distance itself from the historical common with Russia?
              1. vVvAD
                vVvAD 1 November 2020 12: 34
                0
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Quote: vVvAD
                And we do not know the future - perhaps in 100 years there will be no such state, and Russia will be called differently.

                Here it is definitely "by". Russia celebrated the millennium of the baptism of Rus! Russia will also celebrate its two millennium!

                Either I explained incorrectly, or you did not understand: the first two parts of the proposal are about Ukraine, and the second is about Russia yes And Russia celebrated not only the millennium of the baptism of Rus, back in the days of A.S. Pushkin, in some places (and he himself) they were reckoning from the SMNH - I advise you to inquire. And, it is worth noting that in those days the so-called. "Novokhronolozhtsev" did not exist from the word at all. Russia Was, is and will be - under different names, be it Russia / Race / Dissemination / Russia, Tartaria, Akvelon, USSR. The name is not important - the essence is important.
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                But somehow it turns out that Ukraine itself has abandoned the fact that it, like no one else, is an integral part of the millennium, presenting itself as a counterweight to Russia.

                Now, 6 years later, this concerns not the broad masses of the people who feel that they are deceived hostages of the situation, but the Russophobic power and near-power minority. Therefore, everything can change very soon. Unification in the future is possible and even desirable for all of us.
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                You yourself do not find some contradiction in this, despite the fact that Russia does not abandon the common history associated with the current Ukrainian territory, and Ukraine is struggling to distance itself from the historical common with Russia?

                No, I don't, because this has happened more than once in history. You can't be cute. Immature peoples often sin with this and therefore for centuries have not crawled out of small-town / clan / tribal squabbles and squabbles. And understanding soon returns to the mature ones after the hangover syndrome - examples of Russian fragmentation, turmoil and palace coups prove this. The problem is that external forces can intervene, but so far the time has not been lost either irrevocably or for decades.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 31 October 2020 11: 55
              -1
              Quote: vVvAD
              I agree - western Ukraine is mentally alien to us, and to the South-East and central Ukraine

              Is the Yakut mentally closer to a Chechen or a Karelian? Is the Ossetian mentally closer to the Ingush or the Chukchi? What the fuck is about mentality?
              1. vVvAD
                vVvAD 1 November 2020 12: 18
                0
                Closer, because you speak and write in Russian, in addition to the culture of your small homeland, you are the bearer of the Russian cultural code, reflected in incl. and the laws that you follow as a law-abiding citizen. And these "passionaries" from the plow and bast shoes have a Polonized dialect and the Greek Catholic Church, they act from anti-systemic positions towards both Russian and Ukrainian and European statehood - they do not even know what they want (more precisely, as small children, they want how by the wave of a magic wand of simple solutions, therefore they have never had their own statehood and are not able to create it, but they will always resist the established order.the wild field and ruin is just their mentality).
                1. RUSS
                  RUSS 1 November 2020 13: 03
                  0
                  Quote: vVvAD
                  Closer, because you speak and write in Russian

                  How long have you been in Chechnya, Yakutia or Tyva? Most of them speak and think in their native languages.
                  Or tell us about the friendship of peoples? For example, about friendship: Ossetians and Chechens, about Armenians and Azerbaijanis, about Georgians, Ossetians and Abkhaz, etc.
                  1. vVvAD
                    vVvAD 1 November 2020 15: 47
                    0
                    Is it a coincidence that long-term peace was established only with the arrival of the Russians and was interrupted during the crises of Russian statehood? I’m not talking about friendship or hatred - just about ending the senseless carnage that has been carried through generations.
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2020 19: 38
          +1
          Quote: vVvAD
          "... - Who was nothing, he will become everything" ©

          Recently, it turns out: whoever was with nothing, he became "absolutely".
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 30 October 2020 18: 49
        +4
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        the complete disintegration of this rotten territorial misunderstanding is a guarantee
        Ah, well said good
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 30 October 2020 18: 48
      +4
      Quote: Dimy4
      Resurrected again! Yes, hammer in a stake of aspen or something, well, whoever gets out of the graves out there.

      Yes, at first he was remembered as a president, and now, as a balabol.
  3. krops777
    krops777 30 October 2020 12: 18
    +7
    However, according to Kravchuk, Ukraine is not ready to consider these Russian proposals. Instead, Kiev intends to propose its own "peace" plan.


    We would like peace, peace would have come long ago, but lay under the United States and the United States does not need peace.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 30 October 2020 18: 51
      +3
      Quote: krops777
      However, according to Kravchuk, Ukraine is not ready to consider these Russian proposals. Instead, Kiev intends to propose its own "peace" plan.


      We would like peace, peace would have come long ago, but lay under the United States and the United States does not need peace.

      Yes, now the West will not allow them to act independently.
  4. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 12: 21
    +5
    Nothing will be decided, the current situation suits the Ukrainian side quite well, business will not be squeezed out, in the ongoing "war", money is well sawed ..
  5. deniso
    deniso 30 October 2020 12: 25
    +4
    Follow the Minsk Agreements or abandon them! The rest is bullshit!
    1. Igor Semenov
      Igor Semenov 30 October 2020 20: 36
      -2
      You cannot refuse to execute. I suggest you put the comma yourself
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 October 2020 12: 26
    +4
    Instead, Kiev intends to offer its "peace" plan
    What kind of "peaceful" plan has the Bandera communist and just a pensioner once again talking about? All these "peaceful" plans are well known: give the Donbass back, who among the civilians will not have time to get to Russia, we will clean up those ... I never cease to be surprised that they are still talking with these scumbags and suggesting some solutions.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 30 October 2020 18: 53
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Instead, Kiev intends to offer its "peace" plan
      What kind of "peaceful" plan has the Bandera communist and just a pensioner once again talking about? All these "peaceful" plans are well known: give the Donbass back, who among the civilians will not have time to get to Russia, we will clean up those ... I never cease to be surprised that they are still talking with these scumbags and suggesting some solutions.

      He and others like him are proud and happy, like children, that supposedly at the negotiations they once again outwitted the "Muscovites" and made Donbass worse fool
  7. tech3030
    tech3030 30 October 2020 12: 26
    +7
    The only outcome is the recognition of the republics by Russia, there is no other way out!
  8. nnz226
    nnz226 30 October 2020 12: 28
    +5
    This Bandera underdevelopment has not yet been hanged ?! Very sorry!
  9. Mamuka Petrovich
    Mamuka Petrovich 30 October 2020 12: 30
    +1
    Our song is good, start over and so 6 years
  10. Operator
    Operator 30 October 2020 12: 44
    -4
    The author, the commander of the outskirts, does not command a military operation, but a terrorist one.
  11. Russ
    Russ 30 October 2020 12: 48
    +5
    - Well, are you finally ready? We're going to be late!
    - What a bore you are! I've been telling you for an hour that I'll be ready in 3 minutes!
    And this hour stretched out for years ...
  12. maktub
    maktub 30 October 2020 12: 56
    0
    Already written, rewritten on this topic.
    Nobody will perform MC
    LDNR will remain unrecognized even by the Russian Federation (under the current leadership)
    Ukraine has neither the desire nor the means to restore part of the territory of Donbass and talk about the free economic zone "in favor of the poor"
  13. Alien From
    Alien From 30 October 2020 13: 02
    +3
    All their offers are not interesting to Donbass. Let the Minsk ones begin to perform!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 30 October 2020 18: 55
      +4
      Quote: Alien From
      All their offers are not interesting to Donbass. Let the Minsk ones begin to perform!

      Who is there capable of fulfilling them? There, de facto, each region has its own hetman.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 30 October 2020 19: 09
        +1
        Exactly. Local elites raised their heads again.
  14. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 30 October 2020 13: 03
    +2
    Russia offers:
    find new approaches, make and consider a decision on a new system, new steps, a new step-by-step map - how to change the situation for many years to come.

    Ukraine offers:
    prepare your vision, your action plan, in which you will build the following actions, steps, decisions.

    And she took a week for this.
    And Madame Grau already agrees.

    Is it just I didn't really understand anything? what
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 October 2020 14: 23
      +3
      Quote: A. Privalov

      And she took a week for this.
      And Madame Grau already agrees.


      And then it's even more fun:
      Our OSCE moderator, Ms. Grau, agreed. (...) On November 11, we will already consider this step-by-step action plan, how we will act in all areas of life in Donbass. Perhaps this is the main thing for us


      Such verbiage is rarely found ... yes
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 30 October 2020 15: 04
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        Such verbiage is rarely found ...

        So, not only to me ... good
        1. cniza
          cniza 30 October 2020 16: 18
          +2
          In this article, he outdid Chernomyrdin, in the question everything and about nothing ... lol
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 30 October 2020 18: 58
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        Quote: A. Privalov

        And she took a week for this.
        And Madame Grau already agrees.


        And then it's even more fun:
        Our OSCE moderator, Ms. Grau, agreed. (...) On November 11, we will already consider this step-by-step action plan, how we will act in all areas of life in Donbass. Perhaps this is the main thing for us


        Such verbiage is rarely found ... yes

        Normal level ... of the head of a small farm administration.
        1. cniza
          cniza 30 October 2020 19: 03
          +3
          No, I think he pulls the maximum for a lecturer under the farm administration ... lol
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 30 October 2020 19: 13
            +3
            Quote: cniza
            No, I think he pulls the maximum for a lecturer under the farm administration ... lol

            Agree, but freelance lecturer yes
            1. cniza
              cniza 30 October 2020 20: 25
              +2
              Here, under the stars of a vacationer ...
  15. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 30 October 2020 13: 05
    +3
    Ukraine is not ready to consider it tomorrow. We will prepare our vision, our plan of action, we took a week of time for this.
    The meaning of the words "good fellow" is, as always, the same - "WE ARE NOT READY". Any proposal and plan are rejected, and only their own are offered. Well, here's how in the previous article on the site there is a question "Believe or not believe", and who to believe. Well, what kind of faith can there be when they have been dodging like snakes for six years, but doing nothing, but "things are still there." So, progress from the Ukrainian side is not expected in the near future.
  16. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 30 October 2020 13: 32
    +3
    Another naphthalene mummy came out to shake the air ... it remains to dig up Shushkevich in order to collect a complete collection of tips from experienced losers
    1. frruc
      frruc 30 October 2020 15: 25
      -1
      As it turned out, Pan Kravchuk and Mr. Gorbachev are the most tenacious of all these Jude old fighters.
      1. Cirkon
        Cirkon 30 October 2020 15: 42
        0
        Quote: frruc
        As it turned out, Pan Kravchuk and Mr. Gorbachev are the most tenacious of all these Jude old fighters.

        Such Judas without a soul, without a conscience usually live a long time .. They burn in hell. So much blood on them and suffering Ugh damn
  17. New Year day
    New Year day 30 October 2020 13: 32
    +4
    What to discuss? Kravchuk did not speak about the Russian proposals, and did not say anything about the Ukrainian ones.
  18. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 30 October 2020 13: 47
    +1
    These Bendera people understand only strength, they perceive all attempts to reach an agreement as weakness. You need to beat them, and beat them immediately and brutally, so that they lie with broken ribs and cough up blood through knocked out teeth, only then will they begin to negotiate.
    Andrei Vajra perfectly explains how to communicate with Bendera
  19. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 30 October 2020 13: 54
    +1
    Ukraine is a political and economic bankrupt, which has not decided anything for a long time, but only fulfills the will of creditors ...
  20. Cirkon
    Cirkon 30 October 2020 14: 38
    +2
    Another blah blah blah juda kravchuk ..
    1. frruc
      frruc 30 October 2020 15: 15
      +1
      What sensible can this old senile have to offer? I don't want to delve into his delirium.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 30 October 2020 19: 01
        +3
        Quote: frruc
        What sensible can this old senile have to offer? I don't want to delve into his delirium.

        Maybe psychiatrists are also interested?
  21. Lesorub
    Lesorub 30 October 2020 17: 56
    +1
    Ukraine is not ready to consider it tomorrow. We will prepare our vision, our plan of action, we took a week of time for this.

    And before that, what did you do - do not have your own vision ?!
    Mrs. Grau

    Yes, Mrs. Grau - a lot "will prompt and help"
  22. Growlers
    Growlers 30 October 2020 19: 55
    +1
    Kravchuk always lies. He is pathologically incapable of telling the truth. They put him there for lying
  23. Egor53
    Egor53 30 October 2020 20: 13
    0
    Ukraine is a Nazi state.
    You shouldn't talk to her about anything. We did not conduct negotiations with Adolf Hitler in 1944 and 1945. So we should not be with Ukraine either.

    Donetsk and Luhansk republics need to be recognized for a long time, and an agreement on mutual military support should be concluded with them. OSCE, NATO and other mongrels of the United States will be outraged, but that's all. No NATO country will bring its troops to Ukraine for a war with Russia. And there will be no additional sanctions against Russia - nowhere else.

    To the border of Donbass, and its occupied territories, it is necessary to bring rocket launchers capable of accurately hitting targets at a distance covering the entire territory of Donbass occupied by Ukraine, and with interest.
    And, with any shot from the Ukrainian side, cover them with fire. The more Ukrainian invaders are killed, the better, the more accommodating they will become.

    Any bases on Ukrainian territory where foreign troops may be located should be subjected to massive rocket fire.

    The Nazis need to be destroyed, not sit down with them at the negotiating table.

    Not for that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers fought, so that we would call the Nazis "partners".
  24. Igor Semenov
    Igor Semenov 30 October 2020 20: 30
    -1
    I do not think that Ukraine is really interested in the return of the territories (perhaps without a population at all). But she also cannot openly declare this. Therefore, there are not and cannot be any realistic proposals.
  25. prior
    prior 31 October 2020 09: 07
    0
    Kravchuk is the Ukrainian Gorbachev who speaks Bandera.
  26. Growlers
    Growlers 31 October 2020 11: 37
    0
    Storyteller Kravchuk, cat Bayun and generally brehlo brought up in the Central Committee of the CPSU
  27. Igoresha
    Igoresha 1 November 2020 00: 07
    -1
    the tin is complete, the Kremlin forces the LDNR officials to humiliate themselves below the plinth

    10. After the laws come into force, the People's Militia units are formed and illegal groups are disarmed.

    11. Local elections shall be held no later than five months after the adoption of laws.

    12. The republics of the DPR and LPR are dissolved after the election of the Donetsk and Lugansk district councils.

    13. After the elections, within two months, a section of the Russian border is transferred under the control of Ukraine.
    in '14 it did not work out, the Minsk agreements, and now a new attempt

    https://odnarodyna.org/content/donbass-predlozhil-svoy-plan-vozvrashcheniya-na-ukrainu?utm_source=politobzor.net