Military Review

Data on the attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the territory of the DPR with the use of a drone confirmed

95
Data on the attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the territory of the DPR with the use of a drone confirmed

The DPR People's Militia Department confirms the information that Ukrainian troops used a drone equipped with an explosive device in the conflict zone. This has become new evidence that the Ukrainian security forces do not fulfill the ceasefire agreements and continue to carry out provocations.


The Ukrainian Armed Forces used a drone near the village of Naberezhnoe, located in the southern part of the DPR. The purpose of sending the drone to this area, the Ukrainian side set to strike at the employees of the republican Ministry of Emergency Situations. At that time, they were neutralizing unexploded mines of 82 mm caliber. The UNM of the Donetsk People's Republic reported that the mortar shelling was carried out by the soldiers of the 53rd brigade of the Ukrainian army.

It is stated that the operator of the Ukrainian drone could have dropped a relatively powerful explosive device from the drone. This led to the death of one person on the territory of the DPR. At the same time, the DPR said that the grenade was dropped at the moment the UAV crashed, after the drone was hit by fire from an automatic weapons.

According to other sources, the APU used a "kamikaze" drone.

UNM DNR:

This is the first DPR serviceman who died as a result of the military aggression of Ukraine since July 27, after the introduction of additional measures to control the ceasefire.

It was noted that the document adopted in July of this year prohibits the conduct of any hostilities, as well as the use of unmanned aerial vehicles.

Earlier it was reported that Ukraine intends to increase the number of Turkish attack UAVs "Bayraktar" in service. Also in Ukraine, its own developments in the field of unmanned aviation.
95 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. Maz
    Maz 30 October 2020 10: 06
    22
    Yeah, the ancient Sumerians got infected with the Erdogan-Jewish unmanned virus from Nagorno-Karabakh. They think there is no control over him. So it's not over yet.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 30 October 2020 10: 21
      +8
      In combat tactics, this is an innovation. But, for every clever nut, there is a Threaded Bolt. Let the General Staff scratch its head, it's not in vain that they get their salaries.
      1. fiberboard
        fiberboard 30 October 2020 10: 43
        45
        It’s more like electronics engineers, engineers are needed. The General Staff did not even think of covering the planes in Syria until the militants began to use mortar attacks and kamikaze drones. But even in the SA there were methods of shelter and camouflage of aircraft and airfields. I noticed during my service that, unfortunately, we have a negative selection when promoted to higher positions. I served as a warrant officer at the PV, and sometimes I was very surprised at the commanders who came to rather high positions. So I thought sometimes - who appointed you, dear, not according to your ability. It's funny to say, but officers came who could not read the map and work with it.
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 30 October 2020 11: 02
          17
          Today, only a commentary wrote: "In addition to the existing air defense, it would be possible to reactivate large-caliber anti-aircraft guns (100-130 mm) from storage. Develop a shrapnel charge with a very large number of striking elements. Use a tethered helicopter-type drone as a radar. a quadrocopter powered by a cable, capable of hovering for days at an altitude of 200 meters. It will become possible to reach enemy drones by sea of ​​shrapnel for 30-40 km in range and up to 10 km in height. "
          With regard to the LDNR, it would be necessary to think about how to help with target designation.
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 30 October 2020 11: 43
            +2
            Here, the 4-6 barrel with a caliber of 12,7 is just better than the ZPU barrel with a caliber of XNUMX, the mass of the salvo is the same and the density of fire and the rate of fire is higher. And alas, for large drones, Armor and Torah. And in the future, Pine and Derivation still
            1. frruc
              frruc 30 October 2020 11: 53
              +7
              This drone still needs to be detected somehow.
            2. Brturin
              Brturin 30 October 2020 12: 02
              +2
              Quote: K-612-O
              And in the future, Pine and Derivation still

              If about the prospects ...
              The laser "Birdman" will protect "Armata" and "Kurganets" from drones, bombs and missiles. This is the name given to the new anti-aircraft missile system, which will soon be received by the Ground Forces. Earlier it was reported that the air defense system will go only into service with the Airborne Forces. But at the present time, a fundamental decision has been made to modify the "Birdies" for the needs of "landowners".
              https://iz.ru/1054601/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/ptitcelov-s-lazerom-sukhoputnye-voiska-poluchat-novyi-kompleks-pvo
          2. Rzzz
            Rzzz 30 October 2020 21: 04
            +4
            Quote: sergey32
            a quadcopter powered by a cable capable of hovering for days at an altitude of 200 meters.

            This is unrealistic. Estimate how much this cable will weigh. Quadric won't lift it.
            There is also a solution a century and a half ago, and 100 times cheaper. Balloon. The carrying capacity is excellent, no energy is needed, it is barely noticeable on the radar, hydrogen costs a penny.
        2. icant007
          icant007 30 October 2020 11: 03
          10
          Quote: fiberboard
          I noticed during my service that, unfortunately, we have a negative selection when promoted to higher positions. I served as a warrant officer at the PV, and sometimes I was very surprised at the commanders who came to rather high positions.


          So if a person is in his place and copes with his duties, why move him up? ))) So it turns out that most of the careerists get to the top.

          And only war puts everything in its place.
          1. bycharashkO
            bycharashkO 30 October 2020 11: 37
            +6
            Quote: icant007
            Quote: fiberboard
            I noticed during my service that, unfortunately, we have a negative selection when promoted to higher positions. I served as a warrant officer at the PV, and sometimes I was very surprised at the commanders who came to rather high positions.


            So if a person is in his place and copes with his duties, why move him up? ))) So it turns out that most of the careerists get to the top.

            And only war puts everything in its place.

            One of Murphy's laws: "Any bureaucratic system is like a sump - larger pieces float higher"
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 30 October 2020 11: 38
            10
            Quote: icant007
            So if a person is in his place and copes with his duties, why move him up? ))) So it turns out that most of the careerists get to the top.

            Unfortunately, the same is observed in civilian life!
            Good specialists are not promoted, because downstairs there is no one to really work in a good professional plan.
            I even heard this phrase from the head of the design bureau: if we raise him or let him go to graduate school, then who will work in the design bureau ?! Those. in the sense that among the remaining designers in the KB team, there will be no one to create new products.

            In other words, they promote those from whom there is little sense in the work collective of the unit and their loss for the chief is not so great.
            Thus, the leadership in the lower ranks gets rid of mediocre specialists and talkers and who will not compete with the higher authorities either.

            So there is a negative selection of personnel in the leadership in the field and further higher in power.
            1. icant007
              icant007 30 October 2020 12: 57
              +2
              Quote: Tatiana
              So there is a negative selection of personnel in the leadership in the field and further higher in power.


              I agree with you And from all this it is somehow bitter.
      2. Guards turn
        Guards turn 30 October 2020 10: 44
        0
        What is there to think, in order to carry out a massive "death" of aircraft of Ukraine over the territory of the DPR, the defenders of Donbass need to find in their warehouses of the Pantsir air defense missile system
        1. Machito
          Machito 30 October 2020 11: 01
          +4
          Quote: Guards turn
          What is there to think, in order to carry out a massive "death" of aircraft of Ukraine over the territory of the DPR, the defenders of Donbass need to find in their warehouses of the Pantsir air defense missile system

          In Donetsk, there are many things in warehouses. If you look carefully, you may find Krasukha. Killing Russians near Rostov is not like killing Armenians beyond the Caucasus ridge.
          1. Simon schempp
            Simon schempp 30 October 2020 11: 37
            -5
            Killing Russians near Rostov is not like killing Armenians beyond the Caucasus ridge.

            Yes, but for some reason more Russians died near Rostov than the Yarmans beyond the Caucasian ridge.
            1. Machito
              Machito 30 October 2020 12: 01
              +2
              Neh hurry up. The war in Karabakh is not over yet. Do not count your chickens before they are hatched.
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 30 October 2020 11: 01
          +8
          Guys happened, an unexpected situation ...
          Somehow suddenly the moment came when I could not enter the Internet through the browser without using the anonymizer ...
          So now I'm not from DNR, but temporarily Bulgarian fellow laughing

          But in fact, news ... Well ... They will "feel" us (and you) "weakly", inspired by the restrained reaction of Russia to the actions of Turkey and Azerbaijan in the NKR, and with an eye on the effective use of shock and reconnaissance UAVs. ..
        3. frruc
          frruc 30 October 2020 11: 55
          -4
          If necessary, there will be Topol-M too.
      3. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 30 October 2020 10: 57
        0
        Let the General Staff scratch its head
        The DPR will not independently solve the problem of UAVs when, and if Russia includes the territory of the DPR in the echeloned air defense system, this will be a direct intervention in the civil war in Ukraine, with all the consequences.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 30 October 2020 11: 42
          12
          Quote: Trapp1st
          DNR alone will not solve the problem of UAVs when,

          I agree that we do not have such opportunities and resources.
          Quote: Trapp1st
          if Russia includes the territory of the DPR in the layered air defense system, this will be a direct intervention in the civil war in Ukraine

          For some, this war is "civil", but for us it is a war of the de facto independent DPR and LPR with the Outskirts.
          We declared our independence from the Okrug back in 2014, and our intention was confirmed by the approval of the population at the referendum held at the same time.

          So, all the reasoning about allegedly civil war, this is just a convenient form of designating a conflict for those who leave spare options for themselves, the opportunity to "wash their hands" if something goes wrong ...
        2. cmax
          cmax 30 October 2020 20: 00
          0
          Quote: Trapp1st
          Let the General Staff scratch its head
          The DPR will not independently solve the problem of UAVs when, and if Russia includes the territory of the DPR in the echeloned air defense system, this will be a direct intervention in the civil war in Ukraine, with all the consequences.

          Will the sanctions be introduced?
        3. dementor873
          dementor873 30 October 2020 23: 55
          +1
          Quote: Trapp1st
          Let the General Staff scratch its head
          The DPR will not independently solve the problem of UAVs when, and if Russia includes the territory of the DPR in the echeloned air defense system, this will be a direct intervention in the civil war in Ukraine, with all the consequences.

          Previously, this may have been the case. And now, after the issuance of Russian passports to the citizens of the LPR and DPR, this will already be an attack on the citizens of the aggressor country (they love this word there). And in the event of a sharp deterioration in the situation, the President will use this quite legitimately.
          Although in Ukraine they have been playing with pots for 7 years, but some brains have remained with the ruling elite. The name for these brain particles is the self-preservation instinct.
      4. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 30 October 2020 11: 22
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        In combat tactics, this is an innovation.

        Optoelectronic stations along the entire front line. Division of airspace into sectors, with constant monitoring.
        Not quite sure who died? The blow was inflicted on the employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, and a soldier was killed. what
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 30 October 2020 11: 49
          +4
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          Not quite sure who died? The blow was inflicted on the employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, and a soldier was killed.

          Actually, it is possible that a soldier who accompanied the Ministry of Emergency Situations died.

          Once upon a time we had a "backup" of the Ministry of Emergencies - Detachment SSROR "Legion" Ministry of Emergency Situations of the DPR
          "A detachment for carrying out special rescue operations of special risk "Legion" of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the DPR", but it was abolished and reorganized into a regular Ministry of Emergency Situations, which are not military personnel ...
      5. Cirkon
        Cirkon 30 October 2020 14: 47
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        In combat tactics, this is an innovation. But, for every clever nut, there is a Threaded Bolt. Let the General Staff scratch its head, it's not in vain that they get their salaries.

        They will find resistance (maybe they will test something new there) .. Remember how the aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine clicked in 2014 .. They don't fly anymore
      6. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 30 October 2020 18: 06
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        In combat tactics, this is an innovation.

        Innovation?! Seriously?! And the fact that pin-do-sy have been using shock UAVs for more than 20 years, have you noticed ?! wassat
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 31 October 2020 06: 42
          +1
          Quote: Misha Honest

          Innovation?! Seriously?! And the fact that pin-do-sy have been using shock UAVs for more than 20 years, have you noticed ?! wassat

          I actually wrote about cheap "kamikaze". Yes, I noticed ... too annoying. Preparing Fighters for one fight is very annoying. We'll keep thinking.
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 31 October 2020 07: 09
            +2
            Quote: Hunter 2
            I actually wrote about cheap "kamikaze".

            About Harpor? If - yes, then this death machine - really MUST strain ...
      7. Lexus
        Lexus 31 October 2020 01: 33
        +7
        Lyosha, hello!
        No matter how many empty "bowler hat" (the General Staff is now governed by other "concerns") - it will not become Aladdin's lamp. As your "stabilizuny" run away - you and I will have to defend the Motherland. Hand over the farm to your successors and prepare for the worst. Nowhere to retreat.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 31 October 2020 06: 26
          +3
          Alexey, again you are exaggerating. It will be necessary - we will Protect! I carefully follow this topic, it strains the IR a little and the ability to calculate by the silhouette. Thinking how to deal with this "crap". I will turn into a jellyfish ... wink In the meantime, you can have a drink in honor of Saturday. drinks
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 31 October 2020 06: 30
            +3
            Bahni two. And then I'm behind the wheel. drinks
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 31 October 2020 06: 34
              +3
              Quote: lexus
              Bahni two. And then I'm behind the wheel. drinks

              And my wife is a racer! bully
              And the topic is really very serious ... knowing how much it costs to prepare the Sniper, it is very annoying that the Botan behind the monitor can destroy him ...
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 31 October 2020 06: 42
                +3
                But the temple was built, the parade was held and played enough.
                1. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 31 October 2020 06: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: lexus
                  But the temple was built, the parade was held and played enough.

                  Why did he surrender to you this Temple? Well, they built and built ... maybe someone's conscience will become clearer and calmer in soul. I really turned on the "brain" ... how to protect yourself from this crap, by IR - no problem, but by the "silhouette" - there is not enough brains yet. request
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 31 October 2020 06: 52
                    +3
                    What is not, will not become cleaner. Therefore, they had no other, more urgent, concerns. Without realistic false moving targets, it's a matter of seams.
                    1. Hunter 2
                      Hunter 2 31 October 2020 06: 58
                      +2
                      Quote: lexus
                      What is not, will not become cleaner. Therefore, they had no other, more urgent, concerns. Without realistic false moving targets, it's a matter of seams.

                      Yes, I didn't even think about the technique. Let the techies think, cheat something or whatever.
                      It bothers me that a High-Level Fighter can get banged after one shot. And he, firstly: like a child for me, and secondly, he stands like a tank - for the Motherland.
                      1. Lexus
                        Lexus 31 October 2020 07: 00
                        +3
                        Morpheus would have intercepted both missiles and drones. But they were quiet about him.

                      2. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 31 October 2020 07: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: lexus
                        Morpheus would intercept missiles and drones. But they were quiet about him.

                        I'm Alexey about individual actions. Shove a 12.5 kg vintar Ammunition plus ... only "morpheus" is still not enough, and a couple of MANPADS to boot.
                      3. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 31 October 2020 07: 10
                        -1
                        Krasnodar threw Israeli links - honestly, hair on end. And it didn't appear yesterday ... how about ... this topic, I honestly don't understand.
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 31 October 2020 09: 27
                    +1
                    Quote: Hunter 2

                    Yes, I didn't even think about the technique. Let the techies think, cheat something or whatever.
                    It bothers me that a High-Level Fighter can get banged after one shot. And he, firstly: like a child for me, and secondly, he stands like a tank - for the Motherland.

                    I wrote to you - the Palestinian and Hezbalonl experience - a hole under a pile of branches. You don't have two shots. Shooting on the cold. You are an Evenk, you are a Nenets. After the shot you bring down the hole and move as far as possible from the place of the shot. Then you leave altogether - consider that you need to build a tunnel with a branch. There you wait and go to the greenery, for example
                  3. Hunter 2
                    Hunter 2 31 October 2020 10: 00
                    -2
                    Quote: Krasnodar

                    I wrote to you - the Palestinian and Hezbalonl experience - a hole under a pile of branches. You don't have two shots. Shooting on the cold. You are an Evenk, you are a Nenets. After the shot you bring down the hole and move as far as possible from the place of the shot. Then you leave altogether - consider that you need to build a tunnel with a branch. There you wait and go to the greenery, for example

                    Stunned ... to the small peoples of the North, I don't seem to belong what although ... you can cut it - they have ancestral lands and snowmobiles are changed every two years (at the expense of oil workers).
                    You and I did not agree on this, how long does it take to build this tunnel? Without an excavator - well, very long request
                  4. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 31 October 2020 10: 04
                    +2
                    Long. Look at the time intervals between exacerbations between Israel and Gaza)). True, they arrange tunnels for missile launches, they will dog a mine to it, not covering it with a barn. For just one shot with a Fudger or Grad missile
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 30 October 2020 15: 16
    +5
    everything indicates that the Armed Forces of Ukraine may start active operations in Donbass
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 30 October 2020 10: 10
    +8
    Drones, by now, have proven themselves very well.
    Today only a complete madman will brush them off ...
    And the methods of countering them, today, have not yet been properly developed.
    1. mole
      mole 30 October 2020 10: 55
      +5
      Quote: Victor_B
      Drones, by now, have proven themselves very well.
      Today only a complete madman will brush them off ...
      And the methods of countering them, today, have not yet been properly developed.

      We are waiting for the conflict in which we will see the star-shower of the Turkish-Israeli creation.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 30 October 2020 11: 39
      +6
      Quote: Victor_B
      And the methods of countering them, for today, have not yet been properly developed

      What do you think "Derivations" were developed for? A 57mm shrapnel round is not a 30mm. Plus range and altitude - up to 6.5 km in height. It's not a pity for a helicopter and missiles, but a projectile with a controlled explosion against a drone ... IMHO, just right. All these drones of medium and small dimensions are the prey of Derivation. And high-rise and large - well, this is a beech and further along the line of parameters of complexes. So what about the fact that nothing is being done - well, I don't know.
      And the fact that you don't need to call about this on every corner ... I will gladly join you. Your opponent doesn't need to know what you have against his wunderwafele.
    3. K-612-O
      K-612-O 30 October 2020 11: 49
      +1
      With full-fledged control of the air situation and layered air defense, there is no big problem. Helicopters would also be taught to detect drones and a pair of overhead containers 12,7.
    4. The comment was deleted.
    5. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 30 October 2020 17: 28
      +2
      Quote: Victor_B
      And the methods of countering them, today, have not yet been properly developed.

      I think the best method is to destroy the drone operators, the drone control center.
    6. Maximilian37
      Maximilian37 31 October 2020 06: 16
      0
      Fall! Autumn has come, now there is no greenery, everything is clearly visible from above, which will be used by the APU.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 30 October 2020 10: 13
    +8
    This has become new evidence that the Ukrainian security forces do not fulfill the ceasefire agreements and continue to carry out provocations.

    Well, they do not fulfill the requirements, so what? Will they put you in a corner, knock on the pope? No one will be held responsible for this from the word at all. Europe absolutely spit on the DPR.
  • Niel-le-Calais
    Niel-le-Calais 30 October 2020 10: 19
    -14 qualifying.
    so many contradictions
    The purpose of sending the drone to this area, the Ukrainian side set to strike at the employees of the Republican Ministry of Emergency Situations

    where is the target of the strike known and why the employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations? (I would venture to suggest a demonizing version of the peaceful and only peaceful)
    If
    This is the first DPR serviceman who died.

    EMERCOM employees are the DPR servicemen?
    At the same time, the DPR said that the grenade was dropped at the time the UAV crashed, after the drone was hit by fire from automatic weapons.

    then the DPR has a drone. Not a bad drone, which, when hit, is capable of destroying someone.
    And in principle, news from the "Headquarters" of the opponents is usually half propaganda.
    someone has a UAV and bombing
    This is the first DPR serviceman who died as a result of the military aggression of Ukraine since July 27, after the introduction of additional measures to control the ceasefire.
    It was noted that the document adopted in July of this year prohibits the conduct of any hostilities, as well as the use of unmanned aerial vehicles.

    someone has shelling and wounds
    Over the past day, the armed formations of the Russian Federation violated the ceasefire in Donbass four times, one serviceman was injured.
    JFO headquarters
    But each side blames the other. Everyone is observing something there and everyone is right and someone is wrong.
    True, the truce works. The dynamics of shelling, wounds, killed has decreased.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 October 2020 10: 36
      +1
      Quote: Niel-le-Calais
      But each side blames the other. Everyone is observing something there and everyone is right and someone is wrong.

      Only here you can't believe the Sumerian side for a penny.
      1. Niel-le-Calais
        Niel-le-Calais 30 October 2020 10: 44
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Only here you can't believe the Sumerian side for a penny.

        In war, it is generally not accepted to trust anyone.
        The second side, like the third, also lied (more precisely, they used information war)
        It's a matter of choice. There are no angels and demons. The world is colored. Everybody lies (c)
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 30 October 2020 11: 31
          +9
          Quote: Niel-le-Calais
          In war, it is generally not accepted to trust anyone.

          I do not urge you to trust anyone. I urge you to turn on your brains.
          What is the reason for the war? Ukraine wants to return the lost territories and therefore is conducting hostilities, the "Minsk Agreements" are a bone in its throat, the final loss of these territories. What are the goals of the LDNR? - Defend your conquests. The capture of Kiev is not included in their plans. In order to somehow live, they need peace. Therefore, they are interested in a peaceful resolution of the conflict, in contrast to Ukraine. That is why LDNR never breaks the truce. It is not profitable for them.
          PI.SI. EMERCOM employees, in war conditions, are military personnel.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 October 2020 12: 16
          +1
          Quote: Niel-le-Calais
          In war, it is generally not accepted to trust anyone.

          Believe, not believe. But when the Sumerians shoot peaceful cities, villages and kill peaceful people, old people, children, women - that's what I believe. So think about who to believe and who not to believe.
          And that a lot of Sumerians and their sympathizers appeared on the site.
      2. Alex_You
        Alex_You 30 October 2020 10: 48
        +3
        As if dnrovtsy can.
        They at that time carried out the neutralization of unexploded mines of 82 mm caliber

        And it never occurred to anyone that the sapper could just blow up when disarmed.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 October 2020 12: 19
      0
      Quote: Niel-le-Calais
      True, the truce works. The dynamics of shelling, wounds, killed has decreased.

      Is this a joke, or a fantasy? You will never stop shelling the Lao PDR.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 October 2020 10: 19
    +3
    The purpose of sending the drone to this area, the Ukrainian side set to strike at the employees of the republican Ministry of Emergency Situations.
    He is a fascist and a fascist in Ukraine. Having seen enough Azerbaijani propaganda now, of course, they will increase the purchase of shock UAVs and "kamikaze" from their new "friend" Erdogan. Information for thought and subsequent actions of the LDNR command.
  • Avior
    Avior 30 October 2020 10: 20
    +1
    Where is the photo of the drone?
    They write that he was shot down
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 30 October 2020 10: 36
      +1
      There they usually use quadcopters with a grenade. The militia used to show a lot of photos and videos. Follow the news.
      1. Avior
        Avior 30 October 2020 10: 49
        +1
        Here about a specific case.
        If this drone was, then it's strange that it was not shown.
        Unfortunately, it is possible to blow up in the area of ​​the contact line there in different ways.
        1. Fungus
          Fungus 30 October 2020 10: 51
          +4
          The militias have already avenged this trick this morning. Two ukrovoyaks were killed and five wounded. Zelensky convenes security council.
          1. Niel-le-Calais
            Niel-le-Calais 30 October 2020 11: 20
            -2
            Quote: Fungus
            Zelensky convenes security council.

            And where does the case about the scandalous decision of the Constitutional Court? After all, the Security Council is going to do this.
            They there with their antics blocked the elections from what and the urgency of the convocation.
            There is indeed news of the death
            The enemy arrogantly arranged targeted fire from grenade launchers of various systems at the entire unit of the United Forces in the area of ​​the village of Vodyanoye. I am sad to report that as a result of the shelling at the beginning of the day, two soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received injuries incompatible with life. The United Forces Command expresses its deepest condolences to the families and friends of the fallen soldiers.
            JFO headquarters.
            PS. They write from the pathetic. Like novels, not war reports .. And their translations need to be corrected .. they have a lousy news translator.
    2. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 30 October 2020 10: 51
      -6
      Quote: Avior
      Where is the photo of the drone?
      They write that he was shot down

      photos were not provided. Maybe for now, or maybe for another reason.
      If you take the news directly, then with all the bells and whistles so
      So, today, in the area of ​​Chermalyk, from the positions of the 1st battalion of the 53rd Ombr of the VFU, an attack drone was launched in the direction of the village of Naberezhnoe, near which the Ministry of Emergency Situations was carrying out work to neutralize unexploded 82-mm mines fired yesterday from the same positions 53- XNUMXst brigade. During the flight over our positions, an attack UAV of the Ukrainian punitive forces was hit by small arms fire. However, during the fall, the drone managed to drop an explosive device at the positions of our defenders.

      but they came up with a version that the targets were employees of the Ministry of Emergencies. Themselves shot down and the drone managed to drop the bomb.
      I think it's a super drone. We must take. Found positions, did not "aim at the employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations", when shot down he was able to destroy.
      Show this apparatus. Some kind of "UAV Gastello".
    3. thinker
      thinker 30 October 2020 11: 32
      +2
      Basurin showed the shot down UAV drone, with the help of which a DPR soldier was killed

      https://dan-news.info/defence/basurin-pokazal-sbityj-bespilotnik-vsu-s-pomoshhyu-kotorogo-byl-ubit-voennosluzhashhij-dnr.html
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 October 2020 10: 20
    +1
    There are no peace negotiations for the ukrofashists. angry
  • Pechkin
    Pechkin 30 October 2020 10: 21
    +7
    They've seen enough videos from the Azerbadzhan Ministry of Defense, now the Ukrainian Armed Forces want to do so too. They have Bayraktar UAVs, I hope the LPR and DPR are preparing for this not like Armenia. I would not want to watch such videos about the guys from Donetsk and Lugansk.
  • spectr
    spectr 30 October 2020 10: 37
    +6
    As I understand it, it's a matter of time. Ukraine in the future may use the same tactics against the DPR and LPR as Azerbaijan against Nagorno-Karabakh. Turks will share the necessary information.
    Moreover, Poroshenko is again in favor.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 30 October 2020 10: 52
      -1
      And so it will be. The militia must be provided with good air defense and electronic warfare and personnel must be trained.
      1. spectr
        spectr 30 October 2020 15: 05
        +2
        Well, or take the step that you did not dare to take earlier. Include these territories in Russia.
  • Linxs
    Linxs 30 October 2020 10: 40
    -4
    It seems that everything is much more transparent and prosaic.
    During demining, they were blown up, and in order not to blame the leadership and personnel, everyone was pushed onto an unmanned aerial vehicle.
  • And Makarov
    And Makarov 30 October 2020 10: 42
    17
    An unpleasant surprise". One dead ... Do not underestimate the enemy!
  • askort154
    askort154 30 October 2020 10: 49
    +3
    The purpose of sending the drone to this area, the Ukrainian side set to strike at the employees of the republican Ministry of Emergency Situations. They at that time carried out the neutralization of unexploded mines of 82 mm caliber

    Here it is the essence of're coming out-Natsik. An attack on the Ministry of Emergency Situations is tantamount to an attack on doctors.
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 30 October 2020 11: 14
      -8
      Quote: askort154
      Here it is the essence of're coming out-Natsik. An attack on the Ministry of Emergency Situations is tantamount to an attack on doctors.

      this is the invention of the headquarters to impart demonicity to the enemy. Initially, they launched "in the direction where the Emergencies Ministry worked nearby." The drone did not fly near the Emergencies Ministry, did not kill anyone from the Emergencies Ministry, and in general it was shot down over the military positions. But you can write that he flew to school, hospital and in general to kindergarten ... Why should they "feel sorry for the busurman" such. For a portrait of demons, you can write anything you want. The paper will endure.
      1. askort154
        askort154 30 October 2020 12: 12
        +2
        Niel-le-Calais ...For a portrait of demons, you can write anything you want. The paper will endure.

        You, of course, from "france" - know better. love hi
    2. ender
      ender 30 October 2020 13: 10
      -4
      An attack on the Emergencies Ministry is equivalent to an attack on doctors


      doctors. with thermometers ..

  • icant007
    icant007 30 October 2020 11: 05
    0
    The DPR People's Militia Department confirms the information that Ukrainian troops used a drone equipped with an explosive device in the conflict zone.


    I naively thought that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would wait for spring. But you see, it is unbearable to use the Karabakh miracle weapon.
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 30 October 2020 11: 45
    0
    In general, they will now buy from Erdogan's brother with bayraktar and will be the same as in Karabakh.
    1. askort154
      askort154 30 October 2020 12: 08
      +1
      pereseleneс In general, they will now buy from Erdogan's brother with bayraktar and will be the same as in Karabakh.

      The Turks sold them only 6 pieces, there was no more hryvnia. But the purpose of the sale, the Turks
      another. They decided to keep production costs down. Their Bаyrаktаr (s) fly on Austrian engines, which are many times more expensive than Ukrainian ones. Turkey has allocated 36 mln. dollars, to establish the production of these engines, and screwdriver assembly of these UAVs. This is beneficial for Turkey. Some of them will be allocated to Ukraine. This whole deal, for now, is purely on paper,
      The Turks are in no hurry to run into the Ukrainian "kidalovo". So, the chicken, while climbs into the nest. hi
  • Operator
    Operator 30 October 2020 11: 53
    -6
    Damn, not only the Turks, but also the Okraintsy began to pull the nose of the Russian air defense.
    1. askort154
      askort154 30 October 2020 12: 19
      0
      Operator] Damn, not only the Turks, but also the Okraintsy began to pull the nose of the Russian air defense.

      Where when ? To the "studio"! Otherwise, it's yours - blah, blah, blah!
  • BAI
    BAI 30 October 2020 12: 03
    +3
    When I wrote (more than a week ago) that Ukraine in Donbass would use drones instead of soldiers, they immediately gave me cons.
    22.10.2020
    3.
    when the insane Ukrainian commander-in-chief sends Ukrainian men to death in Donbass

    Will not send. There are now drones for this, as the war in Karabakh showed. Moreover, Ukraine has drones, but Donbass has nothing to answer. Now the advantage is on the side of Ukraine.
    1. askort154
      askort154 30 October 2020 12: 22
      +3
      BAI...That's when I wrote (more than a week ago) that Ukraine in Donbass would use drones instead of soldiers, they immediately threw minuses to me.

      I don’t use "minuses", but I’ll tell you straight - "Nostradamus" from you, until it worked out. yes hi
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 30 October 2020 17: 11
        +2
        So they have been using them for a long time.
    2. icant007
      icant007 30 October 2020 12: 51
      0
      Quote: BAI
      When I wrote (more than a week ago) that Ukraine in Donbass would use drones instead of soldiers, they immediately gave me cons.


      They threw you vaguely. Nobody just wants it. And this is understandable.
      They put downsides to such a negative scenario.
      Be glad that at least you have been registered as a "vsepalschiki") and nobody likes them here.

      It would be worse if you were identified as an evil stole)
  • svoit
    svoit 30 October 2020 15: 00
    0
    Quote: Dimy4
    Europe absolutely spit on the DPR.

    It's amazing that Russia starts too. There are no sanctions.
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 30 October 2020 16: 25
    +1
    We urgently need to revive the balloons. Raised 5 km. In the basket of the radar or electronic warfare station. And that's all. There is interference, there is target designation. And urgently revive anti-aircraft artillery of caliber 88-130 mm. And their shrapnel, shrapnel ...
  • Dargavs
    Dargavs 30 October 2020 17: 10
    +1
    Quote: pereselenec
    In general, they will now buy from Erdogan's brother with bayraktar and will be the same as in Karabakh.

    And why no one is interested, here is how the DPR will take and how they will buy Chinese drones and kaaaaak they will start throwing them. How do you like that?
  • ultra
    ultra 30 October 2020 17: 11
    +1
    Quote: Trapp1st
    it will be a direct intervention in the civil war in Ukraine, with all that it implies.

    Actually, the West thinks that we interfere. And the Sumerians directly call "war with Russia". So IMHO, on a drum, the consequences were still there and will be. As long as Russia exists. hi
  • Martian
    Martian 30 October 2020 17: 31
    -2
    Putin betrayed the DNI .... Why would he help the Russians on Russian soil, here he is ready to help the chocks in Syria and substitute Russian guys ..... How rotten, not in Russian.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 30 October 2020 19: 22
    +1
    Quote: Misha Honest
    Quote: Hunter 2
    In combat tactics, this is an innovation.

    Innovation?! Seriously?! And the fact that pin-do-sy have been using shock UAVs for more than 20 years, have you noticed ?! wassat

    this is true, but for some reason we did not consider it important to develop this direction, everything was thrown into manned aviation only. And now the lag is 10 years ... ahh, as always, we think for a long time, sway and then we start catching up with our tongue out when the train has already left
  • Alexey G
    Alexey G 30 October 2020 23: 54
    +1
    To be honest, I was expecting this! Turks helped the Ukrainians in the fight against us! Now the DPR will not be good. Heaps of burning tanks, and destroyed infantry in dugouts according to the Armenian scenario. Of course, Zelensky is too weak for this, but he can be bent or replaced ... If nothing is done, the territories will be squeezed back.
    To be honest, you need to somehow clearly understand what our General Staff and Shoigu missed. I used to think that drones are visible on radars, because they do not have rational physical angles like stealth, I mean the special shape of the wing, tail and weapons they weigh on external rather than internal suspensions. At least the weapon should somehow be reflected in the radio waves, but ...
    Either they have composite materials of such quality that they completely absorb radio waves, or they have plastic weapons, but the fact on the face of neither harpies nor a bayractor is not visible or almost invisible! Anti-aircraft guns are sleeping so to speak. This is an extremely unpleasant fact, if of course it is a fact. Someone argued that the C400 sees the F22 from 100 km, but it is also made of composites and certainly not of a worse quality than the Turks' UAVs, and the missiles are inside it !!!! Then what happens? Are we in the ass ????
    All these are rather difficult questions, and of course I would like to answer them as a new challenge to Russia, which her ancient geopolitical enemies, who were beaten by her earlier with the hands of the great Ushakov and Suvorov !.
    We need a new or updated means to defeat the foe! As for the Poultryman, this decision is apparently necessary, although perhaps insufficient! First, the Pine rocket, I think, is not too high-altitude. 5000m despite the fact that the bailer usually works from 5500m, and can soar under 8000m.
    What then? Mam-l will destroy the target? And with the search for a goal, everything is somehow weak! On the one hand, the idea is correct! the radar is not on and the anti-aircraft gun does not fire, but what will she see with the help of optics and at what distance? And is this optics good at us !!! Some here on VO are very very skeptical about this ....
    Perhaps you need to use some kind of sound detectors ...

    of course there is some humor in this! But the UAV is powered by a propeller and damn it! So this is a maize and you need to look for options in the past and present in order to dump him! laughing
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 31 October 2020 00: 19
    0
    Damn, judging by the explosion in the photo, the ammunition is not sickly of this caliber. It looks like a tank of napalm. What kind of drone could carry it?
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 1 November 2020 09: 02
      0
      What kind of drone could carry it?
      this is clearly a left photo or from a movie
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 31 October 2020 00: 54
    +1
    Quote: cmax
    Will the sanctions be introduced?


    Sanctions to the people, like the Chinese ballet to the hedgehog.
    But for the pseudo elite and the bureaucratic sect, it is like a sickle according to Faberge.
    Children in London, apartments in Florida, dachas to which some officials fly with surprising persistence on weekends (without fear of being discovered by a flight radar) on the UBF (southern coast of France).
    They have something to lose.
    Therefore, they sell Russian Spring.