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Admiral's series frigates will receive high-precision anti-submarine weapons

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Admiral's series frigates will receive high-precision anti-submarine weapons

Russian frigates of project 22350 will receive anti-submarine guided missiles (PLUR). The corresponding decision was made by the Ministry of Defense.


This is reported "News" with reference to the military department.

Naval Command fleet Russia has decided on the ships, which in the future will receive new missile-torpedoes for the fight against enemy submarines. According to available data, the first anti-submarine guided missiles (PLUR) will receive frigates of the "Admiral's series" of project 22350. It is possible that the rearmament of frigates will take place as early as next year, 2021.

In 2019, the Ministry of Defense announced that the development of a new anti-submarine guided missile was in a high degree of readiness. Later, Deputy Defense Minister Krivoruchko said that the new complex was put into pilot production, and the ongoing tests are planned to be completed in 2020.

On October 28 this year, the press service of the Northern Fleet announced that the first serial frigate of Project 22350 Admiral Kasatonov was testing a new anti-submarine missile. The tests were reportedly carried out at one of the Northern Fleet's sea ranges in the Barents Sea. The shooting was carried out as part of the qualification serial tests of the product and was recognized as successful.

The ships of project 22350 have a displacement of 5 thousand tons with a length of 135 m and a width of 16 m. The frigate is capable of covering 4500 miles, while developing a speed of up to 29 knots. The sailing endurance is 30 days. Crew - from 170 people.

The frigate is armed with: the 130-mm A-192 artillery mount, the Poliment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system; launchers for 16 anti-ship missiles "Onyx" or "Caliber", anti-submarine complex "Package", anti-submarine helicopter Ka-27.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 October 2020 08: 31
    +1
    16 anti-ship missiles "Onyx" or "Caliber", anti-submarine complex "Package"
    Unclear. Some of the Calibers will be replaced with PLUR, what is most likely, or will the "Package" be removed?
    1. kubanec
      kubanec 30 October 2020 08: 49
      +6
      I think they will complete the cells depending on the task, because they are universal ...
    2. hrych
      hrych 30 October 2020 09: 13
      14
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Some of the Calibers will be replaced with PLUR

      Missile-torpedoes are the Caliber nomenclature. The ZM-14 is only the most distant missile of the Caliber range. There is a ZM-54 anti-ship missile with a supersonic stage, and a ZM-54-1 anti-ship missile without a supersonic stage. There are 91R torpedo-missiles of various configurations, etc. It is clear that the torpedo-missile and the GB-type are the development of the Waterfall missile-torpedo. Also, Zircon, in all respects, is a stupid hypersonic modification of Onyx. Therefore, the universal PU is dear to him.
      1. AlexSM
        AlexSM 30 October 2020 09: 24
        -3
        Quote: hrych
        Also Zircon, in all respects stupidly hypersonic modification of Onyx

        Yes, and without parameters, it was seen in the video of the Zircon launch and at its start that this is a modification of Onyx))
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 31 October 2020 17: 03
        +4
        Quote: hrych
        Therefore, the universal PU is dear to him.

        Greetings old man! hi
        A few words on the topic. UKSK is essentially a "lattice" where TPKs are inserted together with products. This allows you to: - change the "cartridges" at your discretion (depending on the tasks of the k-la), - not deal with the microclimate and the arsenal service (temperature, humidity, pressure), - connected the connectors and you do not need to bother with the cyclogram (everything is done by the equipment itself products) ...
        therefore
        PLUR is placed into a universal transport and launch container. It houses two modules - launch and combat control, as well as a power supply and a number of auxiliary systems.
        The container layout makes it possible to equip coastlines, naval bases, warships and ships of various classes, railway and automobile platforms with such missiles. Preparing a transport and launch container for a shot takes very little time, since contact with a submarine often lasts minutes, and the system itself is quite simple to use.
        Suffice it to say that PP time = 10 (!) Sec.
        Attention is drawn to the following message: Il-28N, Ka-27PL, and PLA (!) Participated in the firing. About the role of each of them.
        - Il and Ka "found" the submarine, passed SH, D over it. (if on buoys, then V, K is also possible). "Kasatonov" fired on according to aviation data, At the warhead (MPT-1UM or some thread of a new small-sized torpedo), a lower limit was set so that it could not stick into the boat, which was in the echelon below the torpedo and recorded guidance on itself ... for this there were boats - targets, now they are over ... Probably, the guidance was fixed on the submarine, which is why the tests were recognized as successful.
        Somehow, however.
        1. hrych
          hrych 31 October 2020 17: 45
          +1
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Greetings old man!

          Hello Wise KAA! hi
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          boats are targets, now they are over ...

          A decoy target, which the submarines shoot, can not be used instead of a target? And the submarine itself should be kept outside the radius of destruction of the missile-torpedo so that it can record the results, but not risk it?
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 31 October 2020 20: 22
            +2
            You cannot put recording equipment on a submarine simulator. And the shooting is experimental, a new product. The pros jump out of their pants: give them the data from their years of work to create their wunderwafe ...
            Secondly, the small-sized torpedo of the new PLUR should locate in the active mode the PLA in the final guidance section to confirm that this is not a "dummy" simulator. Because she leads the search in a passive mode.
            And best of all, in the conditions of universal TMV, boil a sea of ​​200 kt SBS, and that's it ...
  2. And Makarov
    And Makarov 30 October 2020 08: 32
    22
    The work is going on, defects are being eliminated. Well done, keep it up good
  3. antivirus
    antivirus 30 October 2020 08: 47
    -9
    began, and so on in all fleets.


    and aircraft carriers are still not fired. Shoigu is to blame for everything
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 October 2020 09: 14
      -4
      Quote: antivirus
      and aircraft carriers are still not fired. Shoigu is to blame for everything

      The light came together like a wedge on Shoigu and MO ...

      First of all, the blame should be placed on the money-grubbing officials who are pulling billions from the treasury, and those who let them down.
      Ask the Ministry of Finance where are investments in industry, production, technology, R&D, where are aircraft carriers and everything else yes .
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 30 October 2020 09: 22
        -1
        Quote: antivirus
        and aircraft carriers are still not fired. Shoigu is to blame for everything


        this is a joke squared, trolling of all patriots who are ready to restore the Fleet to the level of the USSR at any cost
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 30 October 2020 09: 28
          +1
          Quote: antivirus
          this is a joke squared, trolling of all patriots who are ready to restore the Fleet to the level of the USSR at any cost

          Will it be considered trolling if I declare that the power of the Russian Navy, in the name of the country's security, must surpass the level of the USSR?

          There are several ways to achieve this level of power. It's just a matter of choosing the right concept and means to achieve this goal.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 30 October 2020 10: 05
            +2
            Quote: Insurgent
            the power of the Russian Navy, in the name of the country's security, must surpass the level of the USSR

            and what was the powerful level of the Soviet Navy?
        2. Serg65
          Serg65 30 October 2020 10: 04
          +2
          Only short-lived people want to restore the fleet to the level of the USSR, because the USSR fleet ... at least the surface one, was very outdated in the total mass of ships!
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 30 October 2020 11: 25
            +1
            Quote: Serg65
            Only short-lived people want to restore the fleet to the level of the USSR, because the USSR fleet ... at least the surface one, was very outdated in the total mass of ships!

            Of course of course...

            Only the heavy nuclear missile cruisers of project 1144 "Orlan" were built in the USSR and laid down on the stocks - "Kirov", "Admiral Lazarev", "Admiral Nakhimov" and "Peter the Great" ...
            Plus to this - Project 1164 Atlant missile cruisers, similarly built and laid on the stocks - Moscow (Glory), Marshal Ustinov, Varyag, Ukraine (Admiral of the Fleet Lobov) ...
            Destroyers, BOD, BDK, DKVP, MRK ...
            I forgot about TAKR ...
            There is nothing to strive for yes .

            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 30 October 2020 13: 33
              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              Only the heavy nuclear missile cruisers of project 1144 "Orlan" were built in the USSR and laid down on the stocks - "Kirov", "Admiral Lazarev", "Admiral Nakhimov" and "Peter the Great" ...

              4 ships in 15 years (according to the plan, the delivery of "Petr" was to be in 1992). By the time the latter was built, the first had already become obsolete. As a result, we received one combat-ready cruiser for each ocean-going fleet (the second is under repair). Moreover, these CDs could operate only within the radius of their coastal aviation.
              Quote: Insurgent
              Plus to this - Project 1164 Atlant missile cruisers, similarly built and laid on the stocks - Moscow (Glory), Marshal Ustinov, Varyag, Ukraine (Admiral of the Fleet Lobov) ...

              The only, perhaps, normal ships of our Navy. True, with a hole in the air defense in the nose sectors.
              Quote: Insurgent
              Destroyers, BOD

              Yeah ... either a boiler-turbine miracle with "short-range" anti-ship missiles and single-beam air defense systems, or a gas-turbine BOD with air defense only for self-defense and without anti-ship missiles.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 30 October 2020 14: 30
                +4
                Quote: Alexey RA
                either a boiler-turbine miracle with "short-range" anti-ship missiles and single-beam air defense systems, or a gas-turbine BOD with air defense only for self-defense and without anti-ship missiles

                Well, Alexey, do not judge strictly, in those days such a global trend was in the ship's air defense ...
                hi
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 30 October 2020 14: 28
              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              Of course of course

              Now, could you calculate the percentage of the named ships to the rest of the mass of surface ships? Well, just to be surprised! wink
              Quote: Insurgent
              Plus to this - Project 1164 Atlant missile cruisers, similarly built and laid on the stocks - Moskva (Slava), Marshal Ustinov, Varyag, Ukraine (Admiral of the Fleet Lobov)

              The frigate mentioned in the article of the series surpasses any of the Atlans in its main caliber!
              Quote: Insurgent
              There is nothing to strive for

              And here I completely agree with you yes
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 30 October 2020 14: 49
                -7
                Quote: Serg65
                The frigate mentioned in the article of the series surpasses any of the Atlans in its main caliber!


                What are you saying belay ? true belay ? And strong, strong? Considering that this is the last century ...

                AK-130, "double-barreled" on "Ustinov" with characteristics:

                Gun characteristics

                Caliber mm 130
                Barrel length, mm / calibers 9100/70
                The initial velocity of the projectile,
                m / s 850 m / s
                Rate of fire
                rounds per minute 90 rounds / min. to install

                Gun mount specifications
                Barrel lifting angle, ° 85
                Maximum firing range, m 23 000


                Against A-192:

                Gun characteristics

                Caliber mm 130
                Automatic loading principle
                Rate of fire
                rounds per minute 30

                Gun mount specifications

                The total mass of the AU, kg 25
                Barrel rise angle, ° −15 / + 85
                Maximum firing range, m 23 000
                Reach in height, m ​​18 000
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 30 October 2020 14: 56
                  +7
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  AK-130, "double-barreled gun" on "Ustinov" with characteristics

                  smile Excuse me, buddy, but for Ustinov the AK-130 is an auxiliary caliber, just like the A-192 for the frigate !!!!
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 30 October 2020 15: 05
                    -5
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Excuse me, buddy, but for Ustinov the AK-130 is an auxiliary caliber, just like the A-192 for the frigate !!!!

                    I'm not sorry, for without mentioning what is under main caliber you mean URO, not artillery, it looks like at least an oversight ...
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 2 November 2020 07: 50
                      +4
                      Quote: Insurgent
                      I will not excuse you, because without mentioning that by the main caliber you mean URO, and not artillery, it looks like at least an oversight ...

                      Well, then again, excuse me for my purely professional opinion, because we are talking about URO ships, and not about artillery ships.
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 2 November 2020 08: 03
                        -8
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Well, then again, excuse me for my purely professional opinion, because we are talking about URO ships, and not about artillery ships.

                        "Purely professional"? Hmm what Could you tell me then in what units the caliber of "Onyx" or "Granite" is measured, for example, according to what parameters - the diameter of the body, or the span of the bearing planes, and where, in which correct source documents, these parameters are the "center" ones that determine the properties URO?

                        This is data from Wiki, but maybe you will indicate other sources from your professional heights, where the characteristics of URO are at least partially determined by their caliber?

                        The performance characteristics of the rocket 3M55

                        Rocket length:
                        Ship variant - 8 m (8,6)
                        Aviation option - 6,1 m
                        Rocket Diameter: 0,67 m
                        Wingspan: 1,7 m
                        TPN Length: 8,9 m
                        TPS Diameter: 0,72 m
                        Rocket weight:
                        Starting - 3000 kg
                        With TPN - 3900 kg
                        Maximum speed: 884 m / s (M = 2,6, or 3182 km / h at altitude)
                        Surface speed: M = 2 (2448 km / h)
                        Engine:
                        Starting - solid fuel starting and starting stage
                        Marching - ramjet, mass 200 kg, thrust 4 t
                        Fuel - T-6 Kerosene
                        Range: P-800 Onyx up to 600 km.
                        From 120 to 300 km depending on altitude (export version "Yakhont")

                        Flight height:
                        On the marching section - up to 14000 m
                        At the final section - 10-15 m
                        Control system:
                        On the marching section - inertial + radio altimeter
                        At the final site, an all-weather monopulse active-passive radar-assisted radar homing system, with frequency hopping
                        Target detection range (in active mode) - at least 50 km
                        Maximum target search angle - ± 45 °
                        GSN noise immunity: the developer claims to be high, including from active leading interference, dipole clouds, etc.
                        Ready to work from the moment of switching on: no more than 2 min
                        Current consumption on the 27 V circuit: no more than 38 A
                        Weight RLGSN - 85 kg
                        GOS working conditions:
                        Excitement of the sea - up to 7 points
                        Warhead weight: 200 kg (KR "Yakhont"), 300 kg (KR "Onyx")
                      2. Serg65
                        Serg65 3 November 2020 09: 01
                        -1
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        maybe you will indicate other sources from your professional heights

                        Unlike the land units, the navy is rich in traditions and takes naming innovations very hard! The main caliber is the ship's main weapon ... not ammunition, but weapons !!! The main weapon of the URO ship is the missile COMPLEX, and the cannon tower on the bow is an auxiliary medium caliber!
                        Main caliber artillery - part of the naval artillery having the largest caliber and solving the main tasks inherent in this class of ships

                        What are the main tasks of the URO ship? That's right ... launching a missile strike on ships or enemy territory!
                        hi
                      3. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 3 November 2020 09: 09
                        -4
                        Quote: Serg65
                        What are the main tasks of the URO ship? That's right ... launching a missile strike on ships or enemy territory!

                        Quote: Serg65
                        Main caliber artillery - part of the ship's artillery, which has the largest caliber and solves the main tasksinherent in this class of ships


                        Here are just a rocket, this is not artillery ammunition, but a missile defense system, not an artillery system.

                        Therefore - the statement about the URO as about "main caliber"- categorically not correct and not professional from any point of view hi

                        Do not deepen the hole, arguing with the obviousness of your mistake, otherwise doubts about your competence will only increase.

                        And you can't fix it with "cons" ...
                      4. Serg65
                        Serg65 3 November 2020 09: 29
                        -1
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Here is just a rocket, this is not artillery ammunition.

                        Come on? Why then are the missile units called rocket artillery units? Or is it the same tradition?
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Therefore, the statement about the URO as the "main caliber" is categorically incorrect and not professional from any point of view

                        Well, you know better!
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Do not deepen the hole, arguing with the obviousness of your mistake, otherwise doubts about your competence will only increase.

                        laughing Your pride just touches me!
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        doubts about your competence will only increase.

                        Well, I already noticed that you are competent in everything! bully
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        And you can't fix it with "cons"

                        One day you will realize that your true greatness begins where your pride ends.

                        I do not suffer from "cons" ....
                      5. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 3 November 2020 09: 37
                        -7
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Here is just a rocket, this is not artillery ammunition.

                        Come on? Why then are the missile units called rocket artillery units? Or is it the same tradition?

                        Absolutely! In the US Army, as a tribute to tradition, there are cavalry units on helicopters ...
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Well, I already noticed that you are competent in everything!

                        When did you have time? For example, I drew attention only to your "professional view" in relation to the "main caliber", you, however, assessed me "round" ...

                        Global, you however yes .
                      6. BDRM 667
                        BDRM 667 3 November 2020 10: 29
                        +2
                        After reading your definitions main caliber, it seems that you are ready to call it a ram of an antique trireme, just to prove your "professionalism" ...

                        Quote: Serg65
                        Unlike the land units, the navy is rich in traditions and takes naming innovations very hard!

                        Quote: Serg65
                        Come on? Why then are the missile units called rocket artillery units? Or is it the same tradition?


                        Admiral, stop dishonoring the Fleet ...

                        We got into a puddle with the definition of missiles as the "main caliber", and not the main strike weapons system, so have the honor to admit it, so as not to play around like a careless midshipman on the exam.
                      7. Serg65
                        Serg65 3 November 2020 11: 49
                        0
                        Quote: BDRM 667
                        After reading your definitions of the main caliber, it seems that you are ready to call them the ram of an antique trireme, just to prove your "professionalism" ...

                        God be with him, and what side are you to the Delta?
      2. BastaKarapuzik And
        BastaKarapuzik And 31 October 2020 18: 57
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        AK-130, "double-barreled gun" on "Ustinov" with characteristics

        The mass of the AK-130, together with a cellar of 150 tons, is shocking! A real monster.
        The A-192 cannon is much lighter; it can be installed on ships slightly larger than a corvette.
        Three A-192 guns will fire the same 90 rounds, but judging by the numbers, they will still weigh less.
  4. antivirus
    antivirus 30 October 2020 14: 36
    +2
    Destroyers, BOD, BDK, DKVP, MRK ...
    I forgot about TAKR ...
    There is nothing to strive for

    -do not argue with geniuses-naval commanders
    from the minuses and pluses of ships and ... ankle boots will not be added
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 October 2020 10: 02
    +5
    Quote: antivirus
    aircraft carriers are still not fired. Shoigu is to blame for everything

    laughing Yes, the followers of Casey Fury are to blame for everything, they have already received an order to destroy American aircraft carriers ... and if the Americans do not have aircraft carriers, then why should we build them ???
    1. novel66
      novel66 30 October 2020 12: 58
      +5
      Well, I finally saw the light! Hello
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 30 October 2020 14: 23
        0
        hi Healthy! Sarcasm is not an epiphany! wink laughing
  • Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 30 October 2020 10: 27
    -4
    Quote: antivirus
    and aircraft carriers are still not fired

    Nobody needs aircraft carriers, it is right that they do not build, well done wise Shoigu, and PLO is the main task of frigates and he needs modern means of destruction of submarines ... even Kuzya needs to be sold to India to China, and instead to make submarines, coastal aviation
  • novel66
    novel66 30 October 2020 10: 44
    +2
    we don't need them
    1. Russ
      Russ 30 October 2020 12: 32
      +5
      we don't need them

      Novel hi Do I hear that from you? belay
      1. novel66
        novel66 30 October 2020 12: 56
        +2
        from whom else? I am always in this position lol ours to you! hi where do we know each other?
        1. Russ
          Russ 30 October 2020 13: 10
          +4
          I have stood and will stand on that! wink
          Yes, so ... passed by ... love
          1. novel66
            novel66 30 October 2020 13: 13
            +4
            do not pass by! love
            1. Russ
              Russ 30 October 2020 13: 16
              +4
              Bam, bam! And to the point ... laughing
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 30 October 2020 08: 51
    -3
    It remains only to set up frigates, so far only two pieces
    1. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 30 October 2020 09: 05
      +5
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      It remains only to set up frigates, so far only two pieces

      there are no problems with the construction of the hulls, and there were no problems, the puffs were with air defense, a turbine, a gearbox.
    2. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 30 October 2020 10: 31
      +1
      there are already more of them in construction, and the old ones are 1155 = 7, 11356 = 3, krv to ten, and two admirals, there are still a lot of them in the building already on the stocks ... with the construction of frigates and corvettes, everything is just fine, there are enough of them new ... the problem of an acute shortage of nuclear submarines, minesweepers and coastal aviation is an order of magnitude more acute.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 30 October 2020 14: 58
        +2
        Quote: vladimir1155
        everything is fine with the construction of frigates and corvettes, there are enough of them and there are new ones ..
        They build very slowly, especially frigates. The same minesweepers, one piece per year, are commissioning SNSZ and promise to double the pace
  • Ge2an
    Ge2an 30 October 2020 09: 00
    -5
    I would advise equipping them with anti-drone air defense systems .. Otherwise, it will turn out like with tanks in Nagorno-Karabakh ..
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 30 October 2020 09: 11
      +9
      Quote: Ge2an
      I would advise equipping them with anti-drone air defense systems .. Otherwise, it will turn out like with tanks in Nagorno-Karabakh ..

      Drone versus 5000-ton ship? What size should it be? laughing Not to mention the fact that the drone is over the sea, and there are winds, waves, poor visibility ... Only if, as a scout ... It gets into the antenna zone, and roasts like a crow on the fly ...
      1. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 31 October 2020 03: 12
        +1
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Not to mention that the drone is over the sea, and there are winds, waves, poor visibility ...

        I agree, but also the target search area wink
    2. KCA
      KCA 30 October 2020 09: 27
      +4
      Is the AK-192 not enough? 2 types of anti-aircraft projectiles, rate of fire 30 rounds per minute, even if a 130mm anti-aircraft projectile misses and explodes about 30 meters away, the drone is enough
      1. Garris199
        Garris199 30 October 2020 23: 56
        +1
        Yes, and with the air defense system there is order, this is not an ancient wasp for you.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 30 October 2020 09: 17
    +1
    Rockets are good. We are waiting, if only the deadlines are not shifted.
  • common man
    common man 30 October 2020 09: 17
    +2
    If a new rocket-torpedo is launched from the UKS, then using external target designation they can be launched by all other "caliber carriers"? Including RTOs?
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 31 October 2020 03: 14
      +1
      Quote: man in the street
      If a new rocket-torpedo is launched from the UKS, then using external target designation they can be launched by all other "caliber carriers"? Including RTOs?

      No, they cannot ((Masso-gabbrites will not allow and control center from what to get?
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 30 October 2020 09: 21
    +1
    As I understand it, the plur will be located in the USK, together with the PKR and CR, is the start of all these missiles "cold"? And after the start, the pluru at what distance from the ship should it submerge in the water at the place of the intended location of the target based on world practice? Do our likely opponents have analogs to plur? Who can comment from the knowledgeable?
    1. Avior
      Avior 30 October 2020 09: 55
      0
      Of course I have
      American Asrok. RUM139. Available in different versions.
      The range is 28 km, it is planned to increase the range by 4-5 times for firing at external target designation.
    2. Avior
      Avior 30 October 2020 10: 12
      +1
      Start Asrok

      The rocket is unguided.
      After a specified time after starting the engine will get off the torpedo descends on a parachute.
      At close range, Americans use small anti-submarine torpedoes
      They are unified for the Americans - for Asrok, torpedo tubes, helicopters
  • Old26
    Old26 30 October 2020 12: 43
    +1
    Quote: AlexSM
    Quote: hrych
    Also Zircon, in all respects stupidly hypersonic modification of Onyx

    Yes, and without parameters, it was seen in the video of the Zircon launch and at its start that this is a modification of Onyx))

    And how does the start of "Zircon" differ from the start of the same "Caliber" and "Onyx", or "Zircon". What exactly does it show that the Onyx modification is starting?

    Quote: Serg65
    Only short-lived people want to restore the fleet to the level of the USSR, because the USSR fleet ... at least the surface one, was very outdated in the total mass of ships!

    Maybe not very outdated, but the diversity was the scourge of the fleet. Which is easier to build and maintain? 5 or 6 dozen of the same type of destroyers or limit the series of ships to 4-7 pennants

    Quote: CommanderDIVA
    As I understand it, the plur will be located in the USK, together with the missile defense and the cr, the start of all these missiles is "cold"?
    No. All of them start on the starting and accelerating engine. Mortar launch, like ICBMs they do not have ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 30 October 2020 14: 27
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      Maybe not very outdated, but the diversity was the scourge of the fleet. Which is easier to build and maintain? 5 or 6 dozen of the same type of destroyers or limit the series of ships to 4-7 pennants

      Uh-huh ... and we must also take into account that the already small series were also divided into 3-4 fleets.
  • Old26
    Old26 30 October 2020 15: 30
    +3
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Uh-huh ... and we must also take into account that the already small series were also divided into 3-4 fleets.

    3-4 is unlikely, but 2 is for sure
  • Lexus
    Lexus 31 October 2020 02: 03
    +1
    What does "high-precision" weapons mean in relation to anti-submarine weapons? Either hit or not.