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A stone's throw from war

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From the editors.


Nikita Tsitsagi is a young historian who abandoned the familiar world of Moscow and left for Armenia. Not to participate in the conflict, no. In order to show the people to whom the war has come. It so happens that war is becoming something completely commonplace in our age. But who said that this is right and good?


* * *

A month after the start of the war in Nagorno-Karabakh, every conversation in Yerevan somehow comes down to a discussion of the war. It doesn't matter whether you are returning home at this moment by taxi, or meeting an elderly Yerevan woman at the counter of a store, crossing over with a hostel neighbor in the evening, or watching news on the TV screen.

In warm Yerevan, the weather is sunny, families stroll slowly along its streets, children ride on the attractions on Freedom Square, couples hug in Victory Park overlooking Mount Ararat. But against the background of all this, one short phrase sounds like a loud roar: "War."

“Our task is to fight to the end, without a trace, in the name of the rights of our people ... Without Karabakh, there is no Armenia either. Today, against the background of Azerbaijan's position, to fight for the rights of our people means, first of all, to take weapon and go to defend the Motherland ",

- said Nikol Pashinyan in his recent broadcast.

A few days later, the government adopted a new procedure for the formation of the people's militia.

“Every man can join a detachment of volunteers and join the ranks of the armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh. Our goal is to protect our homeland, and we will fight to the last. "

Billboards and rows of banners throughout the city show footage from the front line. Shop windows and balconies of private apartments are hung with the flags of Armenia and the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. In the center, in small tents, people organize collection points for aid to soldiers at the front. A small crowd of people often gathers around these points, listening to every phrase spoken into the microphone. Everyone is actively communicating with volunteers, asking them something and explaining in return.

If you have an intention to settle in one of the hostels in Yerevan, you will soon find that it is almost impossible to do it. Each of them now houses children evacuated from Nagorno-Karabakh in the early days of the war. The owner of one of these hostels, Karina, gave a whole block of her small house-hotel to refugees from Stepanakert:

- It was our personal initiative. We tried to help these people as much as possible.

Karina's hostel is located in Kentron, the central district of Yerevan.

- Two boys and a mother live in one of the rooms. Their father was wounded by a shrapnel in the neck during the bombing. For seven days he was in the hospital in a serious condition, unable to speak, eat, move. Now, thank God, she is on the mend. I hope everything goes well.

- Was the idea of ​​resettlement of families who left Nagorno-Karabakh an initiative of the state?

- No, that was our idea. Only our desire to help. Recently we received a call from a government agency, asking how much we spend on water, electricity, gas. I think they want to offset some of the costs. Will provide support. Winter will soon begin.






I met Gurgen Nakatechryan on one of the streets of Kond, the old district of Yerevan. Slowly, hands behind his back, he climbed the high stone staircase, taking a break every few tens of meters. And then he lit a cigarette.


Once upon a time, houses in this area were built from everything they had at hand. Narrow alleys of the area meandering between houses, going up and down. It's easy to get lost in these labyrinths in the evening.

After talking, Gurgen told me how twenty-eight years ago he took part in the first Karabkh war, how he spent two years at the front and how difficult it was then to return home from the war. Now he finds a time when a new stage of the old conflict takes on an even more destructive form.

- I asked to go to the front. I told them to take to the rear or to the humanitarian troops. I will help the wounded, carry a stretcher, equipment, - says Gurgen, slowly choosing Russian words from memory. - How can young guys die in war? I saw what this war is. Do you know who is fighting there now? One hundred fifty thousand Azerbaijanis, mercenaries hired for the lira, Turkey. This is who Artsakh alone is fighting with. But they cannot do otherwise. Erdogan is building Great Turan. And he spurred Azerbaijan to this war.


Returning home in the evening, I cross in the smoking room with Tigran, a neighbor in the hostel. In a few days, he, together with his comrade from Yerevan, must leave for Nagorno-Karabakh as part of a voluntary militia.


Most of those who come to Armenia with the aim of getting to the front line then remain in Yerevan. The ministry explains to them that while there are enough soldiers on the front line, as soon as their help is needed, they will be promptly contacted. According to Tigran, it is difficult for him to remain in such an expectation. Every evening he listens to news from information channels, asks me what news is coming from Moscow.

- There is no more strength to sit here. You will see, we will win. Even if we left some territory, this is a strategic retreat. Because war is war. But for all history Nobody managed to conquer this region of Nagorno-Karabakh. Believe me, you will find out what kind of people they are. Three marshals of the Soviet Union were from Artsakh, 12 generals were born in one Artsakh village. Many of our best officers in Armenia come from there. These people know their business, they know how to fight.

Tigran's simple work sweater accentuates his tightly knit figure. Because of his straight posture and lively open gaze, he seems much younger than his years. Before going to the front, he shaves off his thick black stubble. In the evening, smoking a cigarette, he reads the news of the last two days.

- Aren't you afraid to go there?

- No I'm not afraid. You know, I'm an atheist. Many people in Armenia do not understand this. You just need to get used to the idea that death is a dream from which you will never wake up. If God really existed, would he allow what is happening now? .. When people are cut off their heads in a war, when they kill each other and throw bombs on their heads? Probably, God would have descended from heaven, threatened from the clouds with a huge finger. Everyone would have looked at him, listened and stopped fighting. And there would be no such evil, and there would be no deaths. But that doesn't happen.

- Do you think this war can still end in peace?

- It seems to me that this is already impossible. A new generation must grow up and another 30 years must pass for people to forget this war and what is happening here. Even if Azerbaijan or Turkey conquer part of the territories, how will they then live with these people, how will they find peace with those who remained there? But they won't win anything. Regular troops will leave, a partisan war will begin. As has already happened in other conflicts.


















* * *

Opinion of people, thoughts of people ... War, as many of our readers know, is a state. State of the body, state of mind. State of thoughts. Someone calmly looks at what is happening through a monitor or TV screen, someone tries to help in every possible way, someone goes to the assembly point, remembering how to properly screw the fuse into a grenade and equip the store.

Everyone has his own path.

We want to show the events taking place from both sides. Now it is not so important who fired the first shot, it is more important to show what is happening in the minds and hearts of people on both sides of the confrontation.

Nikita Tsitsagi is in Yerevan and is waiting for the decision of the Armenian Foreign Ministry, communicating with the Armenians. Roman Skomorokhov will try to establish a dialogue with the Azerbaijani side. In general, dialogue, even between the belligerents, is already a step towards peace. For us, in Russia, it is not so important who pursues what goals in this conflict, it is more important for us to know and understand who and what thinks on both sides of the front line. This is a guarantee that the war will not start again in a year or two.
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  1. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 30 October 2020 08: 18
    13
    The more Armenians leave Russia for Karabakh, the better.
    1. seti
      seti 30 October 2020 08: 24
      30
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      The more Armenians leave Russia for Karabakh, the better.

      And Azeibajans. They are independent so let them live in their countries and help their countries. Not at our expense and at the expense of our state.
      Among those Armenian families whom I observe, I do not see any desire to go to defend either Armenia itself, let alone Nagorno-Karabakh. But to assure that whole The South Caucasus is their land, they will lose their voice. And scold us Russians that we have betrayed them.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 30 October 2020 08: 26
        16
        Apparently the fact is that the Armenians themselves are not ready to fight for Karabakh. Otherwise, why did they not populate it, but instead populate our Black Sea region?
        1. seti
          seti 30 October 2020 08: 30
          14
          We seem to have a better standard of living. And if something happens, the Russian Vanya will protect him with a weapon in his hands .. And there they shoot. Life is alarming .. If you call a part of the land your land, you must protect it yourself. Help time for "they are brothers" passed. We learned a lesson against the background of the destroyed monuments to our soldiers in Geyrop.
        2. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 30 October 2020 09: 15
          10
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Armenians themselves are not ready to fight for Karabakh

          I think that if they don’t go to war for Russia, they will dump them under the cover of their diasporas in Europe and America, just like the Azeri Tozher-Russians.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 30 October 2020 08: 37
        23
        None of the Armenian families in the Kuban, which I know, even lifted a finger about Artsakh. There are no fools.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 30 October 2020 14: 27
          -2
          Quote: 210ox
          None of the Armenian families in the Kuban, which I know, even lifted a finger about Artsakh. There are no fools.

          My friend's father sent 300 thousand rubles to the Ayestan fund. One of my acquaintances is eager to fight, yesterday I spoke to him)).
          1. UFO
            UFO 1 November 2020 14: 00
            +3
            Armenians are offended by God, so he teaches them. Once in my life I bought a ticket to a sanatorium on the lake. Sevan. Instead, they settled in some kind of dirty shed with cracks in the palm, with an unfinished pool with frogs. Lake Sevan was dirtied with sewerage, the stones of the shallow shore whiten for hundreds of meters like skulls. At the market I bought a bottle of wine with a pierced cork and a bottle inside. Cursing both the rest and the Armenian thieves, the tourists went home. And now all of a sudden ... For no reason, no reason ... For what?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 1 November 2020 14: 03
              0
              Patriotism, however))
      3. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 30 October 2020 09: 26
        +8
        Quote: seti
        Not at our expense and at the expense of our state.


        I have many acquaintances of Armenians living in Russia.
        All of them work - they work in Russia and for Russia.
        Among the Armenians there are different people, but somehow I meet hardworking, family-like - respectful and I respect them.
        And one more thing: how they spend their PERSONAL earned money is their right to decide.
      4. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 30 October 2020 09: 47
        +4
        Quote: seti
        Among those Armenian families whom I observe, I do not see any desire to go to defend either Armenia itself, let alone Nagorno-Karabakh.

        I grew up in Armavir, those Armenians who are there have long considered themselves residents of Russia and have lived in Russia for several generations. And the benefit is brought not to Armenia but to Russia.
      5. andreykolesov123
        andreykolesov123 30 October 2020 17: 21
        +2
        Quote: seti
        And Azeibajans

        And the Jews
      6. major147
        major147 30 October 2020 19: 34
        +1
        Quote: seti
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        The more Armenians leave Russia for Karabakh, the better.

        And Azeibajans.

        Twice as many of them will come here .......
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 October 2020 09: 41
      +2
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      The more Armenians leave Russia for Karabakh, the better.

      You're right, better. Only "a holy place is never empty." The fat bags need labor, they will invite more Kyrgyz, Uzbeks and Tajiks. I don’t know which one is better.
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 30 October 2020 08: 23
    10
    “Every man can join a detachment of volunteers and join the ranks of the armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh. Our goal is to protect our homeland, and we will fight to the last ”
    A very revealing moment.
    The Armenian army, its air force and air defense practically do not take part in hostilities.
    Pashinyan seems to be trying to utilize a particularly patriotic part of the Armenian people.
    It looks like the systematic fulfillment of the task set by someone to surrender the NKR and the full-fledged sovereignty of Armenia itself.
    Further, they will fall under the Anglo-Saxons.
    1. seti
      seti 30 October 2020 08: 26
      -3
      Quote: Livonetc

      Further, they will fall under the Anglo-Saxons.

      Let them lie down - we have an extra weight off our feet. We got rid of parasites on the outskirts so it finally became worth living in the Russian Federation itself.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 30 October 2020 08: 36
        +1
        We still live in different ways.
        How do you assess, for example, the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria?
        1. seti
          seti 30 October 2020 08: 46
          +7
          I appreciate it normally. In any case, against the backdrop of small financial and material costs, we have put under our control the entire Eastern Mediterranean with several full-fledged bases. This was not even the case with the USSR. Of course it's a pity - we suffered losses in people there. But this is inevitable. If we had not intervened then - the Caliphate and thousands and even hundreds of thousands of militants would have been at our borders today. And the war in NG would be just a petty scuffle.
          My personal opinion is Syria is the key to the whole of Western Asia .. And from there it is possible to control and conduct reconnaissance in a very large and important region.
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 30 October 2020 12: 42
        0
        Quote: seti
        We got rid of parasites on the outskirts so it finally became worth living in the Russian Federation itself.

        Who is worthy, and who is not very ...
        Almost two thirds of Russian young families - 64% - have enough money only for food and clothes, they cannot provide themselves with durable goods. This follows from the Rosstat survey on the level of households' assessment of their financial condition for the second quarter of 2020.

        https://www.rbc.ru/society/29/10/2020/5f9a0e739a79471a03df1555
    2. The popuas
      The popuas 30 October 2020 08: 54
      +8
      Donbass and I had similar thoughts ... they put the violent ones on both sides and let the conflict take its course ... hi disgusting at heart from this ...
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 October 2020 10: 29
      -1
      Quote: Livonetc
      It looks like the systematic fulfillment of the task set by someone to surrender the NKR and the full-fledged sovereignty of Armenia itself.

      There is also such a thought, but who is it to take?
  3. NDR-791
    NDR-791 30 October 2020 08: 26
    +6
    Today, against the background of Azerbaijan's position, to fight for the rights of our people means, first of all, to take up arms and go to defend the Motherland, ”
    - said Nikol Pashinyan in his recent broadcast.
    The little weed is ...
    -Forward, friends, and I follow you
    - I'll hide behind broad backs.
    He is even closer than 100 km. drove up to the front? Ge soldier Roy!!!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 October 2020 10: 30
      0
      Quote: NDR-791
      He is even closer than 100 km. drove up to the front? Ge Roy !!!

      Although his 20 year old son went to fight. Not to dad.
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 30 October 2020 08: 28
    +4
    Good luck Nikita and Roman! Who knows, maybe it is you who will do the impossible! You will be able to establish a dialogue that will shame both presidents and peace will come!
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 30 October 2020 08: 41
      -1
      The impossible is most likely impossible.
      But any dialogue is useful.
      So far, the parties generally do not perceive each other as a side for dialogue.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 30 October 2020 08: 37
    -7
    What an amazing photo reportage! What wonderful photos. It’s from the travel operator’s booklet. But the route is not terrible - the war ...
  6. saigon
    saigon 30 October 2020 08: 43
    +8
    The Chinese have such a name, a phrase or wisdom - a land saturated with hatred and enmity will poison those living on it!
    It's hard to argue with that.
    Who knows which way to solve the problem, probably neither who nor who so far.
    Yes, land is a value and not in material terms, value is not the main thing here, this is the moment when the glorified economy does not even go into the background.
    This is the logic (the complete absence of any logic) of interethnic enmity - ours and everything. We are the ray - the enemy is not a man, a vicious circle.
    Yes, Karabakh or Ar-ah will poison those living on it, avenge the blood shed on this land, for the hatred that has saturated it.
    There is only one way out that is not obvious and not acceptable for both parties - to leave this land for a while by one and not to enter the other.
    Give time to a generation that did not know enmity to grow up and then decide.
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 30 October 2020 09: 19
      +2
      Quote: saigon
      There is only one way out that is not obvious and not acceptable for both parties - to leave this land for a while by one and not to enter the other.

      Yes, no, we must evict everyone from there and settle, well, at least blacks.
  7. Slon_on
    Slon_on 30 October 2020 08: 59
    +4
    Did I understand correctly that after reading this material, Russian guys should all as one rush to protect the unfortunate Armenians in Karabakh?
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 30 October 2020 09: 07
      -3
      Wrong.
      Where did you get the message to the Russian guys?
      However, the presentation of the material is really very one-sided.
      It would probably be more correct to submit the material jointly from two points.
      It is necessary to see the positions and state of both parties, for a correct assessment of possible prospects.
      1. Slon_on
        Slon_on 30 October 2020 09: 47
        10
        You know, from 1989 to 1992 I served in the ZakVO, in Armenia, all this "kitchen" began before my eyes. Even then, they offered to go to Karabakh both for this and for money. I really wanted Ivan to sulk for them. And in this war, there are no good or bad for me.
    2. seti
      seti 30 October 2020 09: 08
      +6
      You got it right. And in Yerevan or Stepanokert, kneel down and apologize for not arriving much earlier.
      1. Slon_on
        Slon_on 30 October 2020 09: 50
        +4
        Of course, just like that, and not otherwise hi
  8. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 30 October 2020 09: 04
    +7
    And it was business, after the collapse of the USSR, to remain a part of Russia, and now all those who left must solve their problems on their own.
    They made their choice.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 30 October 2020 09: 19
      +9
      In fairness, I will note that Azerbaijan was the last to leave the USSR, much later than the Russian Federation .. and if the RSFSR did not leave the 5th, I think many countries would have remained in the USSR ..
    2. kyznets
      kyznets 30 October 2020 14: 20
      0
      It’s very good that they separated. In the USSR, they received subsidies and injections, much larger than in Russia. This is for almost all of our union republics. They took and took everything, and as a result we were left bad and still owe them. Are there many Russians left in the republics? They all strive for mono-nationality. Nooo guys, it doesn't work with you brotherly, just in fairness. And Armenia once again decided to make its choice against Russia. Why wonder now that you have to pay such a price for it. It’s a pity only for the children and those who really treat Russia like brothers. They are suffering now for their national patriots bought by Soros and the Anglo-Saxons. But we also have children and pensioners, and the economic and political interests of OUR country.
  9. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 30 October 2020 09: 15
    14
    Regular troops will leave, a partisan war will begin. As has already happened in other conflicts.

    Is it naive - a lot of guerrilla warfare in Cyprus?
    Turkey evicted the Cypriots from the occupied territory, the Azerbaijanis plan to do the same in Karabakh
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 30 October 2020 23: 56
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
      Turkey evicted the Cypriots from the occupied territory, the Azerbaijanis plan to do the same in Karabakh

      Naturally, Armenia did exactly that in the 90s in Karabakh. so they will not stand on ceremony with them request
  10. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 30 October 2020 09: 20
    +4
    I liked the report.
    I am waiting for the same from Baku.
  11. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 30 October 2020 09: 37
    +9
    In warm Yerevan, the weather is sunny, families stroll slowly along its streets, children ride on attractions on Freedom Square
    The article is not bad, written in good language. But for 29 years I have always been surprised by the names of squares that have appeared in all post-Soviet republics, large, small and even tiny, but they are all called Freedom Square. From whom they were freed, well, probably not from the "big brother", but from the "prison of peoples". All the media, writers, poets, well, not to mention the "rotten" intelligentsia, and even students and teenagers strolling through the streets with posters "Get out of the Russian invaders." But you have Freedom, where does Russia, and its occupation, why no one shouts "Yankee go home!", But on the contrary they like to be photographed in an embrace with a black "soldier" (especially ladies). But then trouble comes to the house, and then immediately the tone of statements and the posters in the squares change to "Russian brothers, peace with Russia for centuries, together we will protect our little country!" And when they spoke and wrote the truth, when the squares were called by the name of Freedom, or when they ask for help ??? For some reason, they do not want to answer this question. In truth, some are trying to say that these are supposedly corrupt rulers, and the people are good. Let me disagree, maybe not for Zelensky and Pashinyan voted 80% or more, but for someone else. I just know that a crowd of "youngsters" and women of undetermined age and undetermined occupation are running against Lukashenka in the streets (normal work from 08.00 to 17.00, and on Saturday socks and footcloths are washed.
    So you need to define the "young democrats". Even in Armenia they forgot in which year Great Armenia and the Armenian Kingdom disappeared, and only in 1920 the Armenian SSR was formed. Although, as they say, "no one remembers good."
    1. icant007
      icant007 30 October 2020 10: 35
      +1
      [quote = tihonmarine] But for 29 years now I have always been surprised by the names of squares that have appeared in all post-Soviet republics, large, small and even tiny, but they are all called Freedom Square. From whom they freed themselves / quote]

      Well, there are Freedom Square in many Russian cities.

      For example, in Rostov-on-Don.
      But what is interesting is that this is the former main square of the Armenian region of Nakhichevan.
      There is an Armenian church, a museum of Russian-Armenian friendship and attention nearby! Consulate General of the Republic of Armenia)))
    2. Selevc
      Selevc 30 October 2020 14: 13
      +2
      From whom they were freed, well, probably not from the "big brother", but from the "prison of peoples".
      Dear, you are wrong and fundamentally wrong - in 1990 it was the RSFSR that adopted the decree on sovereignty !!! That is, the center first fell out of the allied both and then the outskirts !!! It is Gorbachev's Moscow that has played out its perestroika independence and freedom !!! And the chaos in the republics, as they say, is a consequence of the process of decay of the state - which came from a rotten head !!!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 30 October 2020 20: 20
        0
        Quote: Selevc
        Dear, you are wrong and fundamentally wrong - in 1990 it was the RSFSR that adopted the decree on sovereignty !!!

        I did not understand what I was wrong about. I wrote about the "Freedom squares" (Independence Square, or Vabaduze sluggish), which appeared after the collapse of Big Brother (USSR). But not about those who were the first to leave the Union. If the RSFSR came out, then in Russia there is no Freedom Square in Moscow. And what the RSFSR, represented by Yeltsin, did with other republics, I know better than you.
  12. Million
    Million 30 October 2020 09: 57
    +6
    Some Armenian patriots prefer to love their homeland from afar, from Russia, Azerbaijanis too ...
  13. Gardamir
    Gardamir 30 October 2020 10: 58
    +2
    Interestingly, the same people support Azerbaijan, these same people support pro-European rallies in Belarus and they are also against rallies in Khabarovsk.
    Secondly, the country is ruled by "offenders" and the same commentators here. Russia's policy should not depend on the Pashinyans, Adievs, Erdogans and the like. Only on what is necessary and beneficial to Russia.
    1. icant007
      icant007 30 October 2020 15: 23
      -4
      Quote: Gardamir
      Interestingly, the same people support Azerbaijan, these same people support pro-European rallies in Belarus and they are also against rallies in Khabarovsk.


      Well, not true. I support Azerbaijan, but I do not support everything else)
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 30 October 2020 15: 52
        -1
        but I don't support everything else
        there are exceptions in life. It's just that it's high time to understand not the Pashinyan soror, who should determine the foreign policy of Russia, but the good of Russia. There are interests of our country in Armenia, which means we need to appoint a pro-Russian ruler. In the meantime, the Kremlin for Erdogan's sake. ready to surrender Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 October 2020 20: 32
          +1
          Quote: Gardamir
          In the meantime, the Kremlin for Erdogan's sake. ready to surrender Karabakh to Azerbaijan.

          Well, how can this be done, while Karabakh is officially Azerbaijan, and it is not recognized by any country in the world, even by the same Armenia.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 30 October 2020 21: 31
            0
            while Crimea is officially Ukraine
            it is necessary to count the same everywhere. The protests against Putin, these are the bulk of the West bought, protests against Lukashenko, "this mustache got it."
            As for Karabakh, Turkish mercenaries from Syria, Turkish UAVs, and what has Azerbaijan to do with it.
  14. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 12: 09
    +5
    30 years have passed since the beginning of the conflict, during this time it was possible to resolve the issue, and not bring it to hostilities ..
    1. t-12
      t-12 5 November 2020 12: 50
      0
      How to solve it?
  15. iouris
    iouris 30 October 2020 13: 19
    +1
    Nobody needs the world. It is necessary to release steam to reduce the pressure within the systems and the standard of living of the population, in order to dispose of the excess population. In addition, Britain, which stands behind Erdogan, is entering the Caucasus and Soviet Central Asia. So what kind of world? There will be a massacre (I think so). Change of elites.
  16. Old26
    Old26 30 October 2020 13: 46
    +2
    Quote: NDR-791
    -Forward, friends, and I follow you
    - I'll hide behind broad backs.

    There is another option:
    "Forward, eagles, and we follow you
    We will stand behind your backs "

    Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
    I have many acquaintances of Armenians living in Russia.
    All of them work - they work in Russia and for Russia.

    Me too. Some have lived in Stavropol for 100 years or more. Although they are considered ethnic Armenians, they no longer know the language (there was no one to communicate with), they took care of people of other nationalities. A family lives in the next doorway. He is Azerbaijani, she is Armenian. And even in conversations there is no desire to go to protect someone. They have become Russian for a long time. And they work for Russia, not for Azerbaijan or Armenia. Although there are other categories

    Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
    Is it naive - a lot of guerrilla warfare in Cyprus?
    Turkey evicted the Cypriots from the occupied territory, the Azerbaijanis plan to do the same in Karabakh

    Quite right. And to wage a partisan war without relying on the local population is to doom yourself to failure in advance. The experience of the Great Patriotic War showed that where there was a reliance on the locals, there were partisans, even if the place of their action was the steppes of the North Caucasus

    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    What an amazing photo reportage! What wonderful photos.

    The Caucasus is generally a very beautiful region. Sometimes such places are beautiful that where there is the de Switzerland and the Alps
  17. Selevc
    Selevc 30 October 2020 14: 06
    0
    Nagorno-Karabakh is one of the wounds inflicted on the post-Soviet space by the chief rebuilder of the USSR, Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev !!! The conflict could have been crushed at the very beginning if it had been Moscow's will ... But Moscow, reveling in waves of demagogy about glasnost and perestroika, absolutely turned a blind eye to what was happening in the Caucasus !!!

    And now this conflict cannot be stopped without a big war - especially in countries where men are traditional warriors, and they usually have hot blood and bad memory !!! The Caucasus is just an ideal geopolitical bomb !!!

    And if in the events of the 90s there is an indirect fault of Gorbachev, then Karabakh is his fault, direct and simply his criminal article !!!
  18. raif
    raif 30 October 2020 16: 44
    -1
    "Three marshals of the Soviet Union were from Artsakh, 12 generals were born in one Artsakh village" - can you hear the names? and the name of this settlement. Anyone tell me, fellow citizens?
    1. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 30 October 2020 20: 56
      0
      Don't be silly, read:
      http://russia-armenia.info/node/27620
      1. raif
        raif 30 October 2020 22: 29
        +1
        do not be nervous, citizen, where did I make fun of ?. and yes - there are two marshals, not three.
  19. silver_roman
    silver_roman 30 October 2020 19: 01
    0
    War becomes commonplace where there is no force capable of stopping the war. in North America when was the last time there was a war? 3 centuries ago? and that's a civilian. Great Britain, it seems, only under Cromwell told Ireland ... well, in the Second World War, London was normally naughty. and then?
    howl and draw conclusions
  20. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 30 October 2020 20: 48
    +1
    "Roman Skomorokhov will try to establish a dialogue with the Azerbaijani side."
    For what purpose will a person who agitates against the legitimate government in Belarus establish contact? Trust in him is zero.
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 31 October 2020 01: 36
      +1
      Staver von openly campaigns for the Armenians and wants our country to fit into the war on their side, I don't know, maybe he's interested in something. And nothing. And what does Belarus have to do with it?