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Highest level of terrorist threat declared in France

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The highest level of terrorist threat has been declared in France today. This decision was made in connection with a series of attacks, which the authorities called terrorist attacks.


Let us recall that it all started with a demonstration in one of the country's schools of cartoons of the infamous Charlie Hebdo magazine. The teacher allegedly decided to show the Prophet Mohammed cartoons "as part of the school curriculum." This element of the "school curriculum" was not to everyone's liking, to put it mildly. As a result, the teacher was brutally murdered, and the murderer, who comes from Chechnya, after committing the crime, turned to French President Emmanuel Macron, calling him “the leader of the infidels”.

A church in Nice was attacked today. An unknown person attacked parishioners and tourists with a knife. At the same time, it is known that a terrorist cut off the head of one of the women, actually repeating the crime against the teacher, who showed the cartoons in the lesson.
An unknown person was detained today in the Saudi city of Jeddah, who tried to enter the French consulate. He attacked a security guard, but was eventually detained.

According to the latest information, today an unknown person attacked police officers in Avignon, France.

The French police and intelligence services believe that all these events are interconnected. Stunning insight ... At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron declares the need to "resist Islamic radicals." According to Macron, France will never give up its main value - freedom, including freedom of speech.

In this regard, among experts, including in France itself, there is a dispute as to whether the publications of "Charlie Hebdo" can be called a manifestation of freedom of speech? Many agree that terrorism cannot be justified by any circumstances, but it is added that Charlie's employees, under the guise of freedom of speech, themselves are actually radicalizing part of French society, reducing the obvious insult to the feelings of believers to the norms of Western democracy.

It is noteworthy that many politicians in Europe pretend that they do not understand a simple truth: there is art and freedom of speech, but there is a clear provocation. And this is already a bloody provocation aimed at a split in European society. And it can hardly be denied that the impetus for such a split was the policy of the European authorities themselves: both in identifying rudeness and lack of principle with freedom of speech, and in relation to "open doors for all migrants."
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  1. NF68
    NF68 29 October 2020 17: 11
    42
    Let more babays from the Middle East and Africa come to you. It will be even more fun.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 29 October 2020 17: 14
      16
      We, too, have launched quite a few "babays" from Central Asia. Ours are better or what? Well, as we say now. A terrorist attack by "NATIVALS OF CENTRAL ASIA" was committed or was it preparing?
      That is why we grieve with you to the French! Find and punish the scoundrels! And it is not for us to advise the French in this regard.
      1. NF68
        NF68 29 October 2020 17: 15
        +5
        Quote: Observer2014
        We, too, have launched quite a few "babays" from Central Asia. Ours are better or what? Well, as we say now. A terrorist attack by "NATIVALS OF CENTRAL ASIA" was committed or was it preparing?


        I do not argue. Babaev is now in Germany at each corner of a hundred pieces.
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        2. KAV
          KAV 29 October 2020 17: 23
          18
          It's not about babays, but those who educate and train them, with very specific goals (terrorism does not arise by itself). The point is also in those who know no bounds in their desires to spoil everyone and everything with their rotten "caricatures", earning scandalous fame and money on this, without even thinking about the norms of decency.
          I do not want to justify these babays in any way - they must be neutralized at the first opportunity! But, I want to draw your attention to the enlightened European rot, called Charlie Hebdo. This is a real provocation, and a specific one. What do they want in this case ...
          1. Deniska999
            Deniska999 29 October 2020 17: 41
            17
            If you live there, then you need to accept their way of life. They do not hesitate to make fun of any side of life, yes, cruel, but because of this, going on a crime in the age of space flights and electric vehicles is wildness.
            1. krot
              krot 29 October 2020 17: 50
              19
              Posner demanded that France expel tens of thousands of Islamists

              Why is it that Posner does not call upon us to expel anyone? Sykotically similar to a liberal)).
              1. Doctor
                Doctor 29 October 2020 19: 23
                +4

                Why is it that Posner does not call upon us to expel anyone? Sykotically similar to a liberal)).

                It makes no sense to send. It's about fertility. It is the highest among Muslims.

                In 1900, there were 4,2% of Muslims in the world, now 22%, by 2030 it is predicted 26,4%.

                They don't even need to fight, at this rate, by 2070 more than half of the people on the planet will profess Islam.
                1. Rosko
                  Rosko 29 October 2020 20: 01
                  +1
                  Fertile because like cockroaches ... and poisoning them is useless
                2. Mitroha
                  Mitroha 29 October 2020 21: 02
                  +8
                  Is that right in fertility? And the fact that secular governments are overthrown by force and terror and radical Islamism is implanted does not count? You look at Central Asia and the Middle East in the 60-80s, a bunch of states with multi-religions, secular, civilized or aspiring to it. And now many have slipped into fratricidal wars for the forcible implantation of Islam, including the extremely radical one. The point is not fertility, the point is that it is profitable for someone to keep the fire in the fire of wars and pull out gold bars from there, not paying attention to the fact that Islamic terrorism is rising like slag up the conflagration, which perverts religion for its own purposes. By the way, Africa is the clearest example of this.
                  And this, KMK, is one of the most significant threats to the whole world in the future, because "civilized" countries, in the heat of their games, miss the moment of the emergence of a completely different view of the world and life in it.
                3. Sentinel-vs
                  Sentinel-vs 30 October 2020 06: 31
                  +2
                  So what? Islamists and each other very fervently cut. Look in Syria at least to see what was happening before the arrival of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
                  And the eternal war of the Sunnis with the Shiites. So there will be more Muslims who will divide into next sub-confessions and trends and will cut each other.
                  1. Mitroha
                    Mitroha 30 October 2020 18: 59
                    0
                    Just do not forget that at the same time they will quickly unite, regardless of the current, in order to kill the infidels
                4. Arthur 85
                  Arthur 85 30 October 2020 20: 47
                  +1
                  Come on, 4,2% of the Chinese at that time were 350 million, Russians - 150 (a conspicuous figure, we are still somewhere the same) The world population is less than a billion. Was it 40 million Muslims? Yes, in one Ottoman Empire lived more.
            2. kulinar
              kulinar 29 October 2020 22: 08
              10
              Quote: Deniska999
              If you live there, then you need to accept their way of life. They do not hesitate to make fun of any side of life, yes, cruel, but because of this, going on a crime in the age of space flights and electric vehicles is wildness.

              This is wildness!
              You just didn't communicate with them.
              Primitive creatures in terms of education, but with huge wishes ...
              To eat and drink, that's their ideal.
              Creation is alien to them, to shit everything around the dwelling, and then move the dwelling to a new place, this is their life. Now they litter Europe. Having previously dirtied their countries.
            3. orionvitt
              orionvitt 30 October 2020 07: 10
              +3
              Quote: Deniska999
              They are not shy about making fun of any side of life.

              Not true. Some aspects of life, like LSCHBTni, gay marriage, transgender people and other crap, try to make fun of. You will immediately lose your job, friends, position in society, and they will also impose such fines that you will pay until the next coming. Here, as they say, other standards are different, you need to understand. laughing
          2. Machito
            Machito 29 October 2020 18: 06
            16
            We can only be glad for our tolerant "partners". For that fought for it and ran. I remember very well how in the 90s they called our terrorists insurgents. I sincerely hope that in response to Charlie Hebdo's provocations in France, the Islamist rebels will flourish, and I will slightly sympathize with the victims among the French.
          3. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 29 October 2020 20: 21
            +7
            "Well done" French: at first they collected innumerable Muslim refugees from the Middle East, bombed with their consent and with their help, then they began to insult their religious feelings in their usual unbridled style, and when they began to kill "friends" and cut them off heads - declared "guests" terrorists! And no doubts or remorse! Although what am I talking about ?!
            1. kulinar
              kulinar 29 October 2020 21: 59
              -1
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              "Well done" French: at first they collected innumerable Muslim refugees from the Middle East, bombed with their consent and with their help, then they began to insult their religious feelings in their usual unbridled style, and when they began to kill "friends" and cut them off heads - declared "guests" terrorists! And no doubts or remorse! Although what am I talking about ?!

              I was with my wife in Paris ...
              Sheer disappointment.
              I would not recommend the French capital as a tourist trip to anyone.
              Better south.
              Barcelona, ​​Lisbon, although redneck, Prague.
              Fuck this France, although it is located beyond the "river".
              As the French themselves, working in England, say that soon there will be more French people in London than in Paris. The Germans also say similar things.
              Although ... After the new year, Brexit will put everything in its place.
              I will not delude myself, now there is no Ice on the island, but it will be even worse. But much better than in the Latvian Extinctions ...
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 30 October 2020 02: 30
                +2
                Quote: kulinar
                I was with my wife in Paris ...
                Sheer disappointment.
                I would not recommend the French capital as a tourist trip to anyone.

                For some reason I remembered:
                Our penetration of the planet
                Particularly noticeable in the distance:
                In a public Paris toilet
                There are inscriptions in Russian!

                Tourism is somewhat different from permanent residence. The proverb “where he was born, he came in handy there” refers to those who decided to apply their talents at home. Judging by the “talents” available in their homeland, “don’t get it for nothing, and don’t get it with money”. What makes Europe turn its territory into ... (well, you already said into what) is unknown. The sovereignty of any country lies in the fact that its way of life should not change under the "visitors" and "guests". And with such tolerance, the appearance of a new Adolf Aloisovich will be absolutely real.
          4. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 29 October 2020 21: 56
            -4
            Quote: KAV
            It's not about babays, but those who educate and train them, with very specific goals (terrorism does not arise by itself). The point is also in those who know no bounds in their desires to spoil everyone and everything with their rotten "caricatures", earning scandalous fame and money on this, without even thinking about the norms of decency.

            We ourselves at "Babaev" are full of hatred for us. Is it not our "business" contractors and "businessmen" who hire citizens of Central Asia and the Caucasus to work .. They force them to work for a pittance. For example, on paper 30 thousand rubles, but in fact on the hands of powerless workers 15 thousand. We deceive and spread rot people in every possible way, and then we want love for us and respect ... So we reap what we sowed ...
            1. Sentinel-vs
              Sentinel-vs 30 October 2020 06: 34
              +3
              Nonsense. It wouldn’t be profitable, if whole villages would not come to us to earn money.
              And they go to a lower (compared to local) pay or more severe conditions quite deliberately. If migrants were offered the same conditions as locals, locals would be hired, not migrants. In short, there is no logic in your cry.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 30 October 2020 09: 12
                0
                Quote: Sentinel-vs
                And they go to a lower (compared to local) pay or more severe conditions quite deliberately. If migrants were offered the same conditions as locals, locals would be hired, not migrants. In short, there is no logic in your cry.

                There is logic in my "cry". it is necessary to hire our own. Our "contractors-businessmen" Need to work honestly! And not to deceive people. Better yet, hire your own Russians, as you put it "local" And not wrestle with greed in the pose of a nasty green toad.
                1. Sentinel-vs
                  Sentinel-vs 30 October 2020 09: 43
                  0
                  No sane businessman will lose profit. What is it all about?
                  Here you agree with the employee that he would glue the tiles to you in the bathroom for 50 thousand. He did everything on time. And you paid him 75 thousand simply because ... Or you decided to buy a new car, and throw + 15% of its price to a car dealership for simply because ... Well, you write illogical things. Some slogans are unfounded.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 30 October 2020 13: 27
                    -1
                    Quote: Sentinel-vs
                    Well, you write illogical things. Some slogans are unfounded.

                    Look, are you pretending or are you? For especially gifted comrades - They hire imported gaster for an official salary of 30 thousand, and they give out 15 thousand to the hands of hard workers. Now ferstein, why nicht ferstein? Or don't you know such dealers?
                    1. Sentinel-vs
                      Sentinel-vs 30 October 2020 14: 31
                      0
                      I repeat, you have a problem with the logic! If their "poor fellows" were so oppressed and thrown, then they would not have worked at every construction site, delivery, taxi companies, kebab shops and other fucking places.
                      1. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 30 October 2020 15: 33
                        -1
                        Quote: Sentinel-vs
                        I repeat, you have a problem with the logic! If their "poor fellows" were so oppressed and thrown, then they would not have worked at every construction site, delivery, taxi companies, kebab shops and other fucking places.

                        That is, according to your logic, it is correct to rob ordinary workers? fellow Probably nationality does not matter here! hi
          5. napalm
            napalm 29 October 2020 23: 03
            0
            What kind of school curriculum is it, where you have to show the children of a naked man? Caricature is already ridicule. How can you relate to your fellow Muslim citizens, spitting on their feelings.
            1. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 30 October 2020 10: 44
              0
              I saw the caricature. I don't remember what it was about, uninteresting. I looked and forgot.
              What are they raving about is not clear.
          6. Jager
            Jager 31 October 2020 11: 05
            0
            You came to France as a tourist and they cut your head off because of some caricature. The quintessence of tolerance.
            The Austrian artist would have shot himself out of shame a second time, which has been done to Europe in 30 years.
      2. Dima 27
        Dima 27 29 October 2020 17: 49
        +6
        I see you have already thrown mines? Some people really hurt their eyes!
      3. BMP-2
        BMP-2 29 October 2020 18: 40
        +8
        Don't you think that the actions of "Charlie Hebdo" are also terrorism, only psychological? And in my opinion the psychological one is even worse.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 29 October 2020 18: 48
          21
          During the period of Soviet atheism, there were many satirical performances related to religion and the image of believers, priests, the Bible ... how many heads were cut off by the Orthodox?
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 29 October 2020 19: 02
            +3
            For all the seeming similarity of situations, the difference is enormous: the goal of Soviet atheism was to promote scientific thinking, and the goal of "Charlie" was to provoke emotional instability. But "cutting heads", "impaling" or "crucifying on a cross" is just a consequence of the stereotypes existing in this particular culture. Cutting heads would be a strange reaction for Christians. Still, the idea of ​​Christianity is "turn the other cheek" and not "eye for an eye".
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 29 October 2020 21: 05
              -3
              Quote: BMP-2
              and Charlie's goal is to provoke emotional instability.

              it is clear where the legs grow: in France, 90% of electricity is produced by nuclear power plants! and she does not want, following the example of Germany, to abandon nuclear energy ... hence the yellow vests and terrorism more ..
            2. Jager
              Jager 31 October 2020 11: 07
              0
              Tell this to the victims after the Crusades))
              1. BMP-2
                BMP-2 31 October 2020 12: 44
                0
                "Horses, people mixed up in a heap ..."? When it was Russian Christians who participated in the "crusades" :?) And it is not necessary to look in my words for something that was not originally in them! Andrey, if my idea in the first post seemed incomprehensible, I'll try to express it in the words of Alexander Marshal :): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs5RyJrNTI0
          2. t-12
            t-12 31 October 2020 12: 54
            +1
            In Soviet times, were there cartoons where the head of God or a saint was cut off? Or where is the head of God or a saint drawn to the body of a dog? In my opinion, there were no such cartoons. All satire had a purely economic meaning: "the church calls for patience and obedience and, thus, serves the interests of the capitalists, kulaks and speculators."
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 29 October 2020 19: 05
          +1
          Quote: BMP-2
          Don't you think that the actions of "Charlie Hebdo" are also terrorism, only psychological? And in my opinion the psychological one is even worse.

          This is not terrorism, but PROVOCATION. And not only against Muslims, but also against their citizens.
          These zhurnalyugs from a cheap rag, decided to get out on the hype ... this will come out sideways both for these zhurnalyuzhny and for the citizens of France in general.
          And this stupid hype was supported by Macron, saying - we will continue to laugh at the Muslims, since we have a free country. As a result, I will not be surprised that the metro stations will start to explode, people in cafes will be shot, and so on ... because an idiot is a lifelong diagnosis and is not curable.
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 29 October 2020 19: 10
            +2
            Provocation is just one of the tools of psychological terrorism.
          2. kulinar
            kulinar 29 October 2020 21: 35
            +2
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: BMP-2
            Don't you think that the actions of "Charlie Hebdo" are also terrorism, only psychological? And in my opinion the psychological one is even worse.

            This is not terrorism, but PROVOCATION. And not only against Muslims, but also against their citizens.
            These zhurnalyugs from a cheap rag, decided to get out on the hype ... this will come out sideways both for these zhurnalyuzhny and for the citizens of France in general.
            And this stupid hype was supported by Macron, saying - we will continue to laugh at the Muslims, since we have a free country. As a result, I will not be surprised that the metro stations will start to explode, people in cafes will be shot, and so on ... because an idiot is a lifelong diagnosis and is not curable.

            No, it's much more complicated here.
            They have come and planted their vision of the world.
            Enjoy all the benefits of the Western world, while remaining spiritually in the Middle Ages.
            As the saying goes: It was not we who came in large numbers, it was you who stayed.
            Further more. Seizing power through elections, they vote in large cities in coordination.
            In London, they chose "Pahan" and I am not happy about that. Then there will be degradation to the level of the Basmachi estates. Which will lead to the dead end of civilization.
            Well, there are no blacks in fundamental science, just as there are no Muslims in astrophysics.
            This is the burden of other people ...
            And they really hate us! And they are ready to kill, and the Europeans cannot oppose anything to them, except for bleating about tolerance ...
            Although Boris called the hijabs "Post boxes" ...
            And he got away with it.
            If they overwhelm with numbers, which is not excluded by fertility, then evolution will roll back. And so far there is no way to change the situation.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 31 October 2020 16: 31
              0
              Quote: kulinar
              And they really hate us!

              unfortunately this is more contempt than hatred, sincerely despised and cut out for the glory of Allah!
          3. Jager
            Jager 31 October 2020 11: 09
            0
            The diagnosis is to let millions of wild emigrants into their own country
        3. Clear
          Clear 29 October 2020 21: 30
          +7
          Quote: BMP-2
          Don't you think that the actions of "Charlie Hebdo" are also terrorism, only psychological? And in my opinion the psychological one is even worse.

          Really. How can you rejoice at this painted nonsense? Sick or what?
      4. Terenin
        Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 47
        +9
        Quote: Observer2014
        And it is not for us to give advice to the French in this regard.

        Who is this for you? If about Russia, then show the official advice to the French from the Russian authorities.
      5. CSKA
        CSKA 30 October 2020 11: 10
        -1
        Quote: Observer2014
        We, too, have launched quite a few "babays" from Central Asia. Ours are better than that?

        In percentage terms, it is several times less.
      6. UFO
        UFO 30 October 2020 12: 16
        0
        If a true believer is uncomfortable in the house of fagots, where you came with your charter to be given shelter, work and education, then go back to your home, and do not engage in their re-education by cutting off something. Now, if it were the other way around, then according to the highest law of Islam - justice, the heads of the fagots were cut off, which would confirm the terrorist principle in the most fundamental Islam. In Orthodoxy, the highest law is Love, therefore, the repentant thugs were forgiven and in the Russian house everyone lives in peace.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 October 2020 17: 17
      +4
      Quote: NF68
      It will be even more fun.

      Precisely, the fun has begun, you need to sob.
      1. Clear
        Clear 29 October 2020 21: 36
        +8
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: NF68
        It will be even more fun.

        Precisely, the fun has begun, you need to sob.

        Vlad, we remember French sobs

        The Crying Frenchman, 1940.

        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 October 2020 08: 33
          +3
          Quote: Clear
          The Crying Frenchman, 1940.

          It's too late to cry, you had to fight for your France, otherwise they cry like a cow. And now, how brave they have become, they are trying to teach Russia. If it were not for Stalin, they would still have been a colony of the United States (although now you will not understand who they are).
    3. Megatron
      Megatron 29 October 2020 18: 00
      +5
      How long will we tolerate?
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 29 October 2020 18: 58
      -1
      Quote: NF68
      Let more babays from the Middle East and Africa come to you. It will be even more fun.

      No ... here it is just Macron finish ... agreed. He said we are a free country, and we will continue to laugh at religion, and we will not close Charles Hebdo, but we will read, look and laugh like horses, because no one decides to them.
      Now, this degenerate introduces an increased threat of a terrorist attack. That is, there are no brains at all ... but apparently there weren't any.
      1. smart fellow
        smart fellow 29 October 2020 19: 30
        +5
        He took part of the voters from Marie Le Pen. His goal was to show that he is a tough nationalist. He plans to neutralize the boycott of French goods and tourism by Muslims because of his actions with a nationwide quarantine from October 30. The victims in Nice (not specifically in this city, of course) were expected and in fact Macron was an accomplice and mastermind of the murder. But no one at the interstate level will accuse him of this. therefore he is not stupid, but a very clever and unprincipled guy. He bypassed the slow-witted Lukashenka, who called him an immature youth and now only fights off accusations from everyone. However, it is impossible to predict how everything will end. In the case of the attack on Charlie Hebdo, all was quiet, but now Erdogan is accused of being behind the protests. And Erdogan is not a fool either.
    5. veritas
      veritas 29 October 2020 20: 23
      10
      Quote: NF68
      It will be even more fun.

      There is nothing funny when the heads are cut for religious reasons.
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  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 October 2020 17: 16
    12
    At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron declares the need to "resist Islamic radicals." According to Macron, France will never give up its main value - freedom, including freedom of speech.
    Freedom is limited by a long leash. It was necessary to think about this when yelling "Tolerance!" and started migrants, there were few Algerians and Moroccans. And now it's late, we got both. There will be no return, and it will not be better either, but it will be worse.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 29 October 2020 19: 00
      -3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      It was necessary to think about this when yelling "Tolerance!"

      It was necessary to think about this when talking from the presidential rostrum - we will continue to laugh like horses over Mohamed ... yeah ...
  4. Trojan_wolf
    Trojan_wolf 29 October 2020 17: 18
    12
    Let the thief into the house, you will be left without pants ... without a head.
  5. NF68
    NF68 29 October 2020 17: 20
    46
    The topic says:

    1. cniza
      cniza 29 October 2020 17: 28
      10
      This has long been accepted by them and works ...
      1. Rzzz
        Rzzz 29 October 2020 18: 25
        +6
        Quote: cniza
        They already have it

        And it works for us. It's hard not to notice.
        1. cniza
          cniza 29 October 2020 19: 15
          +8
          Well, smart people are rarely loved where, so human society is arranged ...
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 48
        +9
        Quote: cniza
        This has long been accepted by them and works ...

        Results of work "on the face"
        1. cniza
          cniza 29 October 2020 21: 00
          +6
          Well, yes, I can't erase anything ...
    2. dmmyak40
      dmmyak40 29 October 2020 21: 31
      +3
      In my opinion, you have already offended the feeling of one thing - one "minus" has been set! wassat They got it ...
  6. pereselenec
    pereselenec 29 October 2020 17: 20
    42
    At one time, when we fought in Chechnya, France howled that Russia was oppressing the poor Ichkerian Salafi terrorists. Sorry - "freedom fighters". Then she sipped them. Now their children are cutting bosoms for the French. Life is not devoid of irony.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 50
      12
      Quote: pereselenec
      At one time, when we fought in Chechnya, France howled that Russia was oppressing the poor Ichkerian Salafi terrorists. Sorry - "freedom fighters". Then she sipped them. Now their children are cutting bosoms for the French. Life is not devoid of irony.

      What goes around comes around!
    2. Antidote
      Antidote 30 October 2020 07: 52
      +2
      And now Russia regularly pays tribute and awards awards to descendants.
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  7. Nasdaq
    Nasdaq 29 October 2020 17: 20
    +6
    Charlie Hebdo is a yellow rag.
    The only feature is provocative cartoons.
    They know that there are millions of Muslims in France. So they arrange shit.

    Victims, and figs with them.
    But everyone knows.
    If this were the case in Russia, then Center "E" would have visited them long ago.
  8. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 29 October 2020 17: 23
    +7
    "Charlie" has every democratic right to print whatever it pleases, incl. and direct insults to some of the believers - Muslims. Muslims have the full democratic right to cut boshki for insulting their faith (as they have written somewhere). Ah, this sweet word - "Freedom" ... So we will win!
    1. napalm
      napalm 29 October 2020 23: 19
      -1
      To go nuts and that's it.
  9. cniza
    cniza 29 October 2020 17: 27
    10
    It is noteworthy that many politicians in Europe pretend that they do not understand a simple truth: there is art and freedom of speech, but there is a clear provocation.


    They understand everything perfectly, but they have to solve their political ambitions, and the people are paying the price.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 29 October 2020 17: 29
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      The teacher allegedly decided to show the Prophet Mohammed cartoons "as part of the school curriculum."

      Quote: cniza
      It is noteworthy that many politicians in Europe pretend that they do not understand a simple truth: there is art and freedom of speech, but there is a clear provocation.


      They understand everything perfectly, but they have to solve their political ambitions, and the people are paying the price.

      What are we talking about. Was this the teacher's initiative, or was he used as a sacred sacrifice, presupposing someone's reaction.
      1. cniza
        cniza 29 October 2020 17: 33
        +5
        They are more outraged by the subsequent steps of Macron and others, they can think with their heads only for the sake of their ambitions.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 29 October 2020 18: 11
          +3
          what is wrong with his steps? In my opinion, he offers the right things.
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 29 October 2020 20: 59
            0
            Quote: alexmach
            what is wrong with his steps? In my opinion, he offers the right things.

            To direct the flow towards our southern borders through Romania, Bulgaria and Ukraine?
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 31 October 2020 00: 39
              0
              I ask you. Who needs it to go towards the Russian borders. After all, there are also not only fools in this stream.
        2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 18: 12
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          They are more outraged by the subsequent steps of Macron and others, they can think with their heads only for the sake of their ambitions.

          "Not only everyone can look into tomorrow."
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 52
        10
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: cniza
        The teacher allegedly decided to show the Prophet Mohammed cartoons "as part of the school curriculum."

        Quote: cniza
        It is noteworthy that many politicians in Europe pretend that they do not understand a simple truth: there is art and freedom of speech, but there is a clear provocation.


        They understand everything perfectly, but they have to solve their political ambitions, and the people are paying the price.

        What are we talking about. Was this the teacher's initiative, or was he used as a sacred sacrifice, presupposing someone's reaction.

        The teacher worked in the "single coordinate system" of their policies.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 29 October 2020 21: 03
          0
          Quote: Terenin
          The teacher worked in the "single coordinate system" of their policies.

          This question is like in Shakespeare's Hamlet: instead of to be or not to be, was he an initiator or it was his assignment. Agree, his provocation, even among schoolchildren, predictably should have caused some kind of excess. Or personally against him, personally against the school. And then, at first they set up a tornado in the Middle East, drove people into a geyrope, and now they will deploy them back, only to our borders? I would venture to suggest that Ukraine, for the money of the European Union, will offer its hospitality to refugees first.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 29 October 2020 21: 48
            +9
            Quote: Balu
            Quote: Terenin
            The teacher worked in the "single coordinate system" of their policies.

            This question is like in Shakespeare's Hamlet: instead of to be or not to be, was he an initiator or it was his assignment. Agree, his provocation, even among schoolchildren, predictably should have caused some kind of excess. Or personally against him, personally against the school. And then, at first they set up a tornado in the Middle East, drove people into a geyrope, and now they will deploy them back, only to our borders? I would venture to suggest that Ukraine, for the money of the European Union, will offer its hospitality to refugees first.

            As the saying goes, now I won't be surprised at anything.
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 30 October 2020 01: 11
          +2
          Quote: Terenin
          The teacher worked in the "single coordinate system" of their policies.

          But one day it was uncoordinated and fragmented. However, shit happens. yes
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 29 October 2020 17: 41
      +7
      Believers, non-believers, we all walk under the same rich people !!! Who rob everyone!
      Divide and rule!!!! and there will be enough fools who encapsulate the true problem in a wrapper between religious conflict for the next century!
      1. cniza
        cniza 29 October 2020 17: 50
        +4
        The main thing they have is divide and rule, and the rest is ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 29 October 2020 18: 23
          +5
          Divided ones are easier to plunder .... it was, is and will always be.
          1. cniza
            cniza 29 October 2020 19: 14
            +4
            This makes it easier to manage, and therefore to force to do what is beneficial to the individual holding the power, and to rob it by itself ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 29 October 2020 19: 57
              +4
              We were one! But as always, something divided us .... we would have to gather again, in a mighty bunch, BUT, something again interferes !!!
              What to do? eternal question ....
              1. cniza
                cniza 29 October 2020 20: 33
                +4
                Life is a difficult thing, and survival is even more difficult, but France is flying somewhere in the wrong place ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 29 October 2020 21: 34
                  +6
                  These are their problems, their flight.
                  We have something to do, to correct, at home.
  10. Guards turn
    Guards turn 29 October 2020 17: 30
    0
    Erdogan is militant, why does not he declare war on France, they would sort things out there.
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 29 October 2020 18: 27
      +1
      I also thought about Erdogan ... cunning ... oh cunning bully
      1. Guards turn
        Guards turn 29 October 2020 18: 56
        +1
        Let Macron turn to the coalition: France, Britain and the United States and conduct an operation in Turkey.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 54
          10
          Quote: Guards turn
          Let Macron turn to the coalition: France, Britain and the United States and conduct an operation in Turkey.

          The name of the operation is "Wholesale purchase of tomatoes!"
          1. Guards turn
            Guards turn 29 October 2020 22: 23
            0
            The previous operation was named so: Odyssey Dawn ("The beginning of the Odyssey" or "Odyssey. Dawn") This can be as you say.
            1. napalm
              napalm 29 October 2020 23: 26
              0
              Then "Prometheus", or how strangers appeared.
        2. dmmyak40
          dmmyak40 29 October 2020 21: 35
          +4
          Yeah, another "successful" operation to force the Straits ... Like in 1915 ...
  11. prior
    prior 29 October 2020 17: 30
    10
    The highest level of terrorist threat is now the daily objective reality of French society.
    The French did not want to "wipe their ass" themselves, they invited servants from Muslim countries,
    so we got the expected result.
    It is worth considering whether Russia really needs migrants and gasterbayters ...
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 29 October 2020 17: 42
      +3
      They are not needed, but they are already here with families and roots.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 29 October 2020 20: 05
        +4
        They are not needed, but they are already here with families and roots.


        Joy for the right. Another 15-20 years of religious swagger and Europeans will again invent some lagers for concentration. Civilization flies in the distance between the trigger and the front sight, although I don't care, my eyes are blue.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 57
        13
        Quote: Deniska999
        They are not needed, but they are already here with families and roots.

        Sure. They do not want to learn Russian, i.e. do not integrate, amassed their own enclaves, where their laws apply ... here's the weaning of Russian territory.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 29 October 2020 17: 35
    +7
    I beg you, what terrorism: freedom .. smile
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 29 October 2020 17: 37
    +6
    Radicalism, extremism from any side of the "barricades" does not lead to good. Should we not know this.
    I am not a believer at all and never, but for those who offend churches, someone else's faith, and even for those who do evil under the banner of religion, I would write the same measure, depending on the severity of the offense.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 29 October 2020 18: 44
      11
      Quote: rocket757
      but to those who offend churches, someone else's faith, and to those who do evil under the banner of religion, I would write the same measure, depending on

      In France, they beat on faith long ago, they have a secular state for the second hundred years. They do not see the problem of neighing at some god or prophet. This is from culture, and it's not for us to judge them.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 October 2020 19: 35
        -2
        Quote: rzzz
        This is from culture, and it's not for us to judge them.

        So it is THEY climb to US, with their guano .... not all are en masse, but there are enough "pranks of missionaries" from that side ... they climb! and THEY WERE NOT CALLED HERE!
        By the way, secular, this does not mean that one should not respect the desires, traditions, faith of other people ... by the way, their own compatriots, in fact.
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 30 October 2020 02: 00
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          this does not mean that you should not respect the desires, traditions, beliefs of other people ..

          They left their traditions in the history books, you can't live in the past forever. We need to make some progress. And faith .... What can I say? If you really have faith, then no pictures can offend it. And if you are offended, then you should think about what you believe in, clearly not in God, it turns out, in this situation.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 30 October 2020 02: 44
            0
            Quote: rzzz
            And if you are offended, then you should think about what you believe in, clearly not in God, it turns out, in this situation.

            Here the whole alignment is that after a blow on the cheek, one is advised to substitute the second, while others are advised to cut off their heads. And the matter here looks somewhat different: why do not these people live in their “own house” with such manners? Why are they allowed to behave according to their parochial ways?
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 30 October 2020 09: 15
              +2
              Quote: ROSS 42
              while others are advised to cut off their heads.

              Well, in France, too, heads were chopped off only a few centuries ago, and for religious crimes they burned them on fires, it's even more abrupt. But time goes by, the nation is developing, and this has gone into the pages of history textbooks.
              So here it is purely a matter of development - if you want to develop, abandon the ancient rules and laws. If you do not want to develop, live in the past and "honor the traditions", but in this case you will not have a future.

              Quote: ROSS 42
              why don't these people live in their "own house" with such habits? Why are they allowed to behave according to their parochial ways?

              Because in your house you can lose your head if it seems to someone that you are doing something wrong. Plus, dirty kafirs give money in the form of benefits, they have a lot of delicious food, alcohol, drugs, beautiful women, and other joys.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 30 October 2020 10: 24
            +1
            I will not argue.
            I will make an offer - create your own society, where no one, no one and nothing respects. Try to live / survive in it.
            There is only one condition, wherever you are, beyond the horizon and DO NOT CLIMB TO US, with your "progressive" ideas.
            Then everyone will be happy.
    2. cniza
      cniza 29 October 2020 19: 26
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      Radicalism, extremism from any side of the "barricades" does not lead to good. Should we not know this.


      Radicalism, like fanaticism, is a danger to any society ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 October 2020 19: 41
        +2
        There is much more dangerous for society! It's just a lot, it rolls \ crawls, surreptitiously, imperceptibly, almost, but the harm, as a result, brings even more !!! because it takes root easier.
        1. cniza
          cniza 29 October 2020 20: 42
          +5
          The most unpleasant thing is what is inside - it's very difficult to fight this ...
    3. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 29 October 2020 20: 13
      +9
      I am not a believer at all and never, but to someone who offends churches, someone else's faith ...


      And I would send all the faithful fanatics to the felling and to build the Trans-Siberian Railway in 2 floors. Survivors can be shot at the end of the construction. Religion is opium for the people and its adherents are terrorists and enemies of normal humanity.
      1. cniza
        cniza 29 October 2020 20: 40
        -2
        Forgive you Lord, you choose your own path, why don't you allow others?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 29 October 2020 21: 37
          0
          Militant atheism is no better than religious fanaticism. Two boots a pair, only one left, the other size 45.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 29 October 2020 22: 19
            +1
            Militant atheism is no better than religious fanaticism.


            A matter of perception - militant atheists do not cut their heads on the streets of cities but rather are engaged in quantum physics, where it is most likely to find the essence of the universe. My Lord is Newton, Darwin and Einstein, and they offer much more interesting scriptures than the Bible, Quran or Torah.
            1. Jünger
              Jünger 29 October 2020 22: 41
              -2
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              militant atheists don't cut their heads on city streets

              They have been doing this for many years in the USSR. And not only in the USSR. In Spain, atheist republicans nailed priests to church doors.
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              Newton, Darwin and Einstein, and they all offer much more interesting scriptures than the Bible, Quran, or Torah.

              I do not know who Einstein is, but Newton and Darwin were quite believing Christians, well versed in the Bible.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 October 2020 23: 30
                +3
                Quote: Junger
                They have been doing this for many years in the USSR.

                Well, more precisely, who was there and what was doing in the USSR?
                By the way, shouldn't you remember what the other, "enlightened" and quite religious people of Gay were doing when they came to conquer our Russia? The same can be said about EVERYONE who tries to impose their mission of "liberation" on others, especially those who did not call them and therefore do not favor.
                Sick people, not burdened with humanity, and among moderate believers / non-believers, there are, not so few.
                Do not mix / confuse sour with hot.
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 30 October 2020 02: 09
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  By the way, shouldn't you remember what the other, "enlightened" and quite religious people of Gay were doing when they came to conquer our Russia?

                  Well, but should we then fantasize about what would have happened to "our Russia" if soulless atheists in the 20s and 30s did not build industry with all their might. Yes, a lot of people suffered at the same time, but at this price at least some parity with the then "European Union" was achieved.
                  By the way, in 17 it was not the "bloody kamunyaki" who began to blow up churches and raise priests to pitchforks, but very broad masses of workers and peasants, without a special command. It was for what, accumulated.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 30 October 2020 10: 40
                    -1
                    Quote: rzzz
                    Okay, but should we dream up

                    No, no, you will keep that for yourself.
                    In fact, the oppressed class has rebelled against the oppressor class! And there was no pitchfork to the side, it was for faith in the Almighty.
                    If there were excesses, it was only with completely crazy freaks, from either side, by the way. This extreme, which manifests itself, creeps out always when there are either local riots or large-scale, cardinal changes in the state.
                    You mixed sour and black again! Moderate your imagination and teach history, even if your country ... you can take the world one as an example, the processes were the same, ALWAYS!
                    Purely religious showdowns, this is an example of how different, although if you dig deeply into them, you will ALWAYS find political, economic underpinnings !!!
                  2. Jünger
                    Jünger 30 October 2020 20: 42
                    +1
                    Quote: rzzz
                    Well, but should we then fantasize about what would have happened to "our Russia" if soulless atheists in the 20s and 30s did not build industry with all their might.

                    Yes, nothing terrible would have happened. If there were no communists, there would be no fascists. The first is the cause, the second is the direct effect.
                    Russia has lived a thousand years without the Reds. And nothing - in the first ranks got out and the industry was enough for life. And now it will not get lost.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 30 October 2020 20: 54
                      +1
                      Quote: Junger
                      If there were no communists, there would be no fascists.

                      Yeah. There is nothing further to discuss.
                      1. Jünger
                        Jünger 30 October 2020 21: 04
                        +2
                        If not for the Bolsheviks, then Russia would have held out in the ranks of the Entente until the capitulation of the Triple Alliance. Would have been among the winners and effectively controlled post-war Germany alongside France. And there could be no surprises inside Germany. Moreover, there would be no illegal cooperation with Germany.
                        In the states of Europe, the question of the communist danger would not be acute and an increased level of militarization in the world would be useless.
                        Fascism appeared precisely because the communists, supported by the USSR, were eager for power in most countries, and sane citizens did not want to go to the collective farm and strayed into opposite associations.
                      2. t-12
                        t-12 31 October 2020 13: 11
                        0
                        Russia would have held out in the ranks of the Entente until the capitulation of the Triple Alliance.
                        Wouldn't have held it. At the end of 1916, the horses ran out, followed by logistics, and grain disruptions began.

                        sane citizens did not want to join the collective farm and strayed into opposite associations
                        "Sane" - who is this? Landowners? And the poor man, in general, does not matter who to work for - a kulak or a collective farm. In general, the collective farm is even preferable: there is stable employment, a clear system of payment (workdays), a collective farm school and a hospital.
                      3. Jünger
                        Jünger 31 October 2020 13: 55
                        +2
                        Quote: t-12
                        Wouldn't have held it. At the end of 1916, the horses ran out, followed by logistics, and grain disruptions began.

                        Even if the Russian army began to skitter from the Germans in 1917 at the same speed as the Soviet in 1941 (and there were no prerequisites for this), it would still have lasted until the defeat of Germany in 1918. Since the United States also joined there.
                        It was necessary to try very hard to lose to Russia in WWI. And the Bolsheviks tried very hard and managed.
                        Quote: t-12
                        "Sane" - who is this? Landowners?

                        German burghers, middle class, who voted for the NSDAP. Italian middle class supporting Mussolini.
                        Quote: t-12
                        And the poor man, in general, does not matter who to work for - a kulak or a collective farm.

                        It is preferable for the poor to sing, dance, eat moonshine and roll on the stove. If you work, it's hard to stay poor.
            2. Jünger
              Jünger 30 October 2020 20: 36
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              Well, more precisely, who was there and what was doing in the USSR?

              I have a church built next to my house. Consecrated in honor of the New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia and the walls inside are covered with photographs of clergymen who were shot and exiled in the 30s by militant atheists.
              Quote: rocket757
              By the way, shouldn't you remember what the other, "enlightened" and quite religious people of Gay were doing when they came to conquer our Russia?

              Actually, I am not a Catholic, but even I am aware that the Catholic Church rarely blessed conquests. Much less often than you think.
              And if someone calls himself a believer and does something contrary to faith, this is against faith and has nothing to do with the Church.
              Quote: rocket757
              Do not mix / confuse sour with hot.

              So do not confuse.
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 29 October 2020 23: 34
          0
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          militant atheists don't cut their heads in the streets

          Do not confuse organisms with a shift in the head, and such are both, with people who simply chose their own path, different from others, which does not harm anyone around!
      2. cniza
        cniza 30 October 2020 08: 39
        +4
        Quote: rocket757
        Militant atheism is no better than religious fanaticism. Two boots a pair, only one left, the other size 45.


        We have already said about this fanatics are dangerous, both religious and any other ...
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 29 October 2020 17: 38
    10
    People beheaded in France? Eka is unseen.
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 29 October 2020 18: 18
      +2
      What cruelty. We have one, yay .. and nailed it to the paving stones. And also, he emigrated to France ...)
  • yfast
    yfast 29 October 2020 17: 43
    +1
    Soon, soon, the word France will be written in Arabic script. The Arabs would buy this magazine, if it really interferes with it, otherwise they would immediately head.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 29 October 2020 17: 58
    -2
    The French should ask themselves: why are we provoking ????????
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 29 October 2020 18: 35
      12
      Quote: Alien From
      why are we provoking ????????

      They want and provoke. Tea lives in their country. Or do you have to hide under the bunk and accept?
      Vaughn in Sweden recently found such an "Arab party of Sweden". She said that those Swedes who do not agree to accept the idea of ​​multiculturalism should renounce citizenship and get the fuck out of the country.
      1. t-12
        t-12 31 October 2020 13: 15
        0
        Or you have to hide under the bunk
        There are other variants of behavior between "hiding under the bunk" and "mocking the carriers of another culture". So there is no need for extremes.
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 31 October 2020 19: 19
          +1
          Quote: t-12
          mock people of another culture


          Those. when those "carriers of a different culture" cut off anyone's heads - this is not considered "mockery", it seems to be normal? Have you ever thought what kind of behavior they are being bullied about? Why are there no caricatures of Krishna or Buddha?
          1. t-12
            t-12 31 October 2020 21: 26
            0
            And if Muslims are shown disgusting cartoons, Muslims will become more cultured? Will they stop cutting heads, get out of all sorts of igils, get an education, get a qualified job? Did I understand the "cunning plan" correctly?
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 4 November 2020 00: 17
              +1
              There is no cunning plan. For the French, it is easy to attack all "spiritual values", even if they are their own, even if they are not. And this cynicism is their national joke, even a national value, if you like. This is what the French are afraid of.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 29 October 2020 18: 40
      +3
      Quote: Alien From
      The French should ask themselves: why are we provoking ????????

      Well, all the French do not provoke, and some sincerely do not understand. "And what is it? Won Jean Effel published what a cartoon of the Bible! And nothing! Everyone was delighted! All over the world! And then why not?"
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 29 October 2020 19: 17
        0
        There are no true Catholics in Western Europe, and if there is something minuscule in comparison with the population of the country, that's why there was and will not be any reaction in the near future.
        And at the expense of cartoons on a religious theme, then this is blasphemy against believers.
        Although all this is in the hands of someone
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 30 October 2020 02: 11
          0
          Quote: vavilon
          this is blasphemy against believers

          A believer cannot offend with any pictures.
          It is not faith that is affected, but religion, i.e. not the relationship of a person with a higher power, but the impact of spiritual authorities on a person (moreover, in most cases, one-sided impact, without the possibility of any objection or discussion). And then there is a conflict with the pre-set in a person attitudes, so some individuals lose the tower ..
          But you should always keep in mind that all religious dogmas and rules are written by people for their own purposes, and not by God.
          1. t-12
            t-12 31 October 2020 13: 20
            0
            It is not faith that is affected, but religion, i.e. not the relationship of a person with a higher power, but the impact of spiritual authorities on a person

            Affected by value... Those. something that a person appreciates. Something that must be protected from defilement or destruction.

            It can be a mother, a child, a grave, a monument to a hero, an eternal flame, a party card, an image of a prophet ...
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 31 October 2020 19: 14
              +1
              Quote: t-12
              Value affected

              So it is in that other culture of value. And in this culture, value is free expression of opinion and the absence of any virtual barriers. And if in that culture God is the most important character around which all life is built, then in this culture this stage in development has long passed, and religion and them so, a fairy tale for fans, and they treat it calmly, and most importantly - no obligatory involvement of people from childhood in religion.
              Some have their heads cut for insulting the prophets, others have caricatures of the gods, they show in cartoons - and nicho. The authors of "The Simpsons" - for such "values" in general, they had to burn at the stake for jokes on our God. But no, we calmly watch cartoons, and laugh.
              And I think there should be less virtual value. A party card is nothing more than a piece of cardboard with a seal, absolutely not worth dying for.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 30 October 2020 02: 54
          0
          Quote: vavilon
          And at the expense of cartoons on a religious theme, then this is blasphemy against believers.
          Although all this is in the hands of someone

          It's right. To whom - on hand, to whom - on the head ... It seems to me that to expound the foundations of the universe with the help of primitive statements (even a thousand years ago) is also akin to blasphemy not only against atheists, but also over education and science. Something is not visible bans on the use of electricity and other fruits of modern civilization. And donkeys and camels are rarely ridden ...
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 35
        +7
        Quote: Egoza
        And then why not? "

        Why not, you can, but what to do with the consequences and how to avoid them?
  • vavilon
    vavilon 29 October 2020 18: 12
    +1
    There is a third force that pits Christians and Muslims against each other
    1. AVA77
      AVA77 29 October 2020 18: 28
      0
      Rather, it confronts believers regardless of religion and unbelievers.
  • nod739
    nod739 29 October 2020 18: 12
    +3
    and a murderer who comes from Chechnya

    generally born in Chechnya
    and he came from France, for he lived there his entire adult life!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 26
      +4
      Quote: nod739
      and a murderer who comes from Chechnya

      generally born in Chechnya
      and he came from France, for he lived there his entire adult life!

      I agree. Nationality has nothing to do with it.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 29 October 2020 18: 16
    +2
    France is degraded, completely. Well done!)
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 40
      +6
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      France is degraded, completely. Well done!)

      Yes. Only more precisely - the current authorities of France have degraded, however, like all the leaderships of the European Union.
  • deniso
    deniso 29 October 2020 18: 27
    +5
    No need for the police and the military. You just need to join hands with Merkel and Johnson and walk the streets of Nice.
    1. Rustic i ......
      Rustic i ...... 29 October 2020 18: 48
      -4
      What for? And why Nice, and not along the streets of Yakutsk or Nakhodka, hold hands with someone and walk like, you can even drool out of your mouth for authenticity. Just don't cut off anyone's head, then there will be no police or military.
    2. Motorist
      Motorist 29 October 2020 20: 02
      +3
      Quote: denis obuckov
      You just need to join hands with Merkel and Johnson and walk the streets of Nice.

      Crayon drawings on the pavement also help ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 42
        +9
        Quote: Motorist
        Quote: denis obuckov
        You just need to join hands with Merkel and Johnson and walk the streets of Nice.

        Crayon drawings on the pavement also help ...

        They help, but only when examining the crime scene (when they circle the location of the corpse with chalk)
        1. Motorist
          Motorist 29 October 2020 21: 01
          +2
          Quote: Terenin
          when examining a crime scene

          Well, yes, even when these "inspectors" simultaneously sing songs with a guitar like "we are not afraid of the gray wolf." (Brussels-2016)
  • iouris
    iouris 29 October 2020 18: 32
    -1
    I think so: the games of the special services. Either Macron did not understand something and they explain to him (for example, the British through Erdogan), or Macron prepared himself and wants to quickly resolve the "issue." But the moment is interesting.
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 29 October 2020 18: 32
    +6
    Beauty France as a ship with holes. It picks up more and more of a foreign element and quietly goes to the bottom. An interesting story was with me in this very Nice. My favorite team played there and went there with my son. A taxi was called from the hotel to the stadium. A car arrived. And there ... Two! The driver and his father. It turns out they were told that Russian fans were coming. They were scared to go alone. We talked with the help of a google translator. Good guys. Taxi drivers. They are also dissatisfied with the dominance of refugees and guest workers. Tax growth. Small salaries. Almost made friends. They helped me buy good wine. In general, they were not afraid of those, not those!
  • maktub
    maktub 29 October 2020 18: 33
    0
    I will express a conspiracy theory: -Hello to Macron from Erdogan!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 32
      +8
      Quote: maktub
      I will express a conspiracy theory: -Hello to Macron from Erdogan!

      Wow conspiracy theories winked Tayyip shouts about it from every tribune.
      1. maktub
        maktub 29 October 2020 23: 38
        +1
        With such an influx of refugees, 100 pounds of "Caudla" were infiltrated by Turkish agents, and I think there is no need to make much effort to provoke some orthodox fanatics.
        The main thing is that the "message" is correctly interpreted laughing
        1. maktub
          maktub 29 October 2020 23: 47
          0
          By the way, I just found a Turkish article on the topic http://m.inosmi.info/turki-o-terakte-v-nitstse-eto-sdelali-spetssluzhby-frantsii-en-son-haber.html
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 29 October 2020 18: 55
    +7
    "It is noteworthy that many politicians in Europe pretend that they do not understand a simple truth: there is art and freedom of speech, but there is a clear provocation."

    It is noteworthy that a number of people still consider the CHUVAKOV CUTTING HEADS some kind of believer in something or just normal people or people in general.
    You see, such a person - in general, according to the FIGURE, why should they stab you in the barrel with a knife - for a caricature, for smoking or laughing loudly, for having a cross or for entering the ghetto without a hijab. So the question of the incurable idiocy of the satirical magazine is a less urgent facet of the question - the essence of which - when we all finally understand that letting hell knows who in our native land and without any control is game!
  • Million
    Million 29 October 2020 19: 02
    +7
    Members of one of the Muslim organizations lined up outside the French embassy in Moscow.

    For some reason, no one dispersed them ...
    Probably, as the hero of the film performed by Mikhalkov said: One can, but the other is not!
  • Doctor
    Doctor 29 October 2020 19: 12
    +3
    France is on the front lines again. Like the Battle of Poitiers in 732.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 30
      +8
      Quote: Arzt
      France is on the front lines again. Like the Battle of Poitiers in 732.

      I agree, in part, that
      the impotent and already toothless Western Roman Empire fell, eaten away by worms of corruption, cowardice and treason. Like a huge ship, she sank into the abyss of history, leaving only fragments on the surface in the form of wild and unsteady barbarian kingdoms.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 29 October 2020 22: 40
        +2
        I agree, in part, that
        the impotent and already toothless Western Roman Empire fell, eaten away by worms of corruption, cowardice and treason. Like a huge ship, she sank into the abyss of history, leaving only fragments on the surface in the form of wild and unsteady barbarian kingdoms.

        This is yes. But if not for Karl Martell, we would all be doing namaz 5 times a day now. wink
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 October 2020 19: 12
    0
    I’m wondering why this srach is in France? Macron was culturally sent by Lukashenko and Erdogan for a month, in my opinion. In Syria, when terrorists cut their heads, it means, by their standards, fighters for democracy. So the terrorists came to France, taking advantage of the practice of double standards. Oh, how difficult it will be to catch these terrorists. Death to international terrorism, join Russia in the fight against international terrorism and will be you are happy.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 29 October 2020 19: 40
      +2
      Stalin allowed de Gaulle the cap, but this was not given permission. Let Grandma's husband not fuss. laughing
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 29 October 2020 20: 15
        0
        This is a very correct remark, without Stalin And in their victors there would not have been a second world. More fought for the Germans than against the Germans.
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 30 October 2020 02: 23
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Lukashenka and Erdogan culturally sent Macron in a month

      Erdogan's message to Macron will even benefit, he will raise the rating.
      As for Lukashenka .... Well, I don't even know how he will continue to live. Poor Macron will not be able to come to Minsk for a walk!
  • certero
    certero 29 October 2020 19: 16
    +4
    You know, if a person in response to a drawing begins to cut off his head with a knife, then this is clearly an inadequate reaction.
    Draw a cartoon in response and that's it.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 29 October 2020 20: 17
      +3
      Or write on the wall who Macron is, there are many options. But to cut heads, this disease must be treated in the bud.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 29 October 2020 19: 18
    +2
    Erdo's friend works tirelessly.
  • roofing hedgehog
    roofing hedgehog 29 October 2020 19: 26
    +4
    and how fun it was for them when they bombed Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, Serbia ... what you sow, you reap ...
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 29 October 2020 19: 34
    +1
    Charlie Hebdo is the main French terrorists. And up there, they understand this, but apparently the legs of this publication have grown deeply, in not at all French soil. As a result, we get a dilemma: if you beat up Charlie, you will receive accusations of restricting freedom of speech, if you let Charlie go, you will get a button in the country that gives a command to religious fanatics.
    Well, yes, I certainly agree that it is useless to mock someone else's faith. By the way, I have never seen Charlie make fun of the American Church of Satan, which is officially registered there, and even one of its transgender adepts went to the mayoral elections and openly propagandizes his views.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 30 October 2020 15: 26
      0
      Charlie Hebdo is the main French terrorists. And up there, they understand this, but apparently the legs of this publication are deeply rooted in, not at all French soil.
      I completely agree with the first thesis, but not with the second !!!
      Charlie-Hebdo's drawings are no longer freedom - they are already an insult and a provocation !!! Freedom is the activity of people that does not harm others - but here, as we can see, the damage has been done and what kind !!! With this approach of Europeans to "freedom and democracy" tomorrow, someone in Europe may want to restore Nazi concentration camps and declare that this is a manifestation of his freedom !!!

      And it seems to me that the French elites cannot understand in any way that the disease of "absolute democracy" sits in them - and terrorist attacks are already metastases of this disease !!!
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 25
        0
        I completely agree with the first thesis, but not with the second !!!

        It's strange. I read your post and did not see any contradictions in relation to what I said above.
        It turns out that I say that "Charlie Hebdo is evil that has nothing to do with freedom of speech! And you answer me - No!" Charlie Hebdo is an evil that has nothing to do with freedom of speech!
        Charlie, this is something like our Dozhd channel and similar media. Or as the notorious flock of fucking bitches called FEMEN. Without external pumping, such notable acne does not appear on the body of the state.
        I think so..
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 27
          0
          By the way, interesting. Who are they and for what reason minus my post. No other than fans of transgender people and adherents of the Church of Satan.
          However, I'm not surprised at anything here. The resource systematically turns into an ordinary trash heap.
      2. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 34
        0
        And it seems to me that the French elites cannot understand in any way that the disease of "absolute democracy" sits in them - and terrorist attacks are already metastases of this disease !!!

        Are you really such a naive person that you believe that there is some kind of political elite in Europe that can exist in isolation from some transnational center of government? )))
        Yes, they all perfectly understand. But neither Trump, let alone Macron, are the masters of their words. Behind them are completely different people, whose names we will never read in any blog or hear in any TV show. Those who wanted to be masters of their word have long been hanged or torn apart by a crowd of madmen. Those who try sluggishly get in the face with all kinds of trade and other restrictive sanctions.
        Incidentally, I am watching with interest the fate of the Turkish Sultan. There are many more things that will happen, and very surprising things.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 29 October 2020 19: 37
    +1
    You have to pay for rudeness. And it is right! If a caricature was made like a gay pope with cancer? How is it?
    1. monah2
      monah2 29 October 2020 22: 45
      +2
      In general, the approach is interesting! The feelings of believers cannot be traumatized, but the feelings of atheists can?
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 37
        0
        Quote: monah2
        In general, the approach is interesting! The feelings of believers cannot be traumatized, but the feelings of atheists can?

        Atheism, in essence, is also a kind of religion. The only difference is that atheists believe in disbelief and they have the same fanatics as in any other confession, and their aggressiveness is no less than that of other radicals.
  • Clone
    Clone 29 October 2020 19: 45
    +9
    The root cause is uncontrolled migration. Everything else is secondary. From crossing the border to the "refugees" the authorities had to show that they were in another country and that different laws were in force here. Do not agree? Boats out onto the water and paddle backwards. And no lisp.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 39
      0
      Quote: Clone
      The root cause is uncontrolled migration.

      No. Not this way. Migration itself had its own root cause and migration was quite controlled, but not by the countries that received migrants.
  • businessv
    businessv 29 October 2020 20: 08
    0
    In this regard, among experts, including in France itself, there is a dispute as to whether the publications of "Charlie Hebdo" can be called a manifestation of freedom of speech?
    I wonder what the rulers of the country think, when at first they allow everyone and everything, and then they loudly complain to everyone that they cannot cope with what they themselves have done!
  • Terenin
    Terenin 29 October 2020 20: 25
    11
    I agree that the definition of "terrorism" is still ambiguous.
    In the case of the murder of the teacher, who arranged the display of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, I would not classify it as terrorism, here is pure murder, that is, intentional infliction of death on another person. Those. after the teacher has committed certain actions and revenge directed only against him.
    In the second case, people who were not involved in the situation that provoked the killer's actions were killed and suffered. this is terrorism.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 39
      +1
      Well said.
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 29 October 2020 20: 30
    0
    A mockery of people's faith cannot be regarded as freedom of speech.
    I believe that the journalists tried to achieve popularity by publishing materials that were offensive to a certain group of people. Moreover, in the wake of the tolerance towards LGBT individuals, Satanists and other wickedness so popular in the West, the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad is not only offensive and provocative, but also contrary to the principles of this most notorious tolerance. Well, Macron, in my opinion, did a huge stupidity without condemning the actions of the tabloid newspaper.
    1. smart fellow
      smart fellow 30 October 2020 01: 54
      0
      He wants to win over voters from the nationalist Marie Le Pen and run for a second term. Fools don't become presidents. He is the mastermind behind the Nice killer and future attacks. The blood of the victims is on his hands. But his career is more important to him. He himself is not afraid for his life, as he is well guarded.
  • anjey
    anjey 29 October 2020 20: 34
    0
    European "dubious freedoms", one-sided and two-faced tolerance and their bloody consequences, we certainly don't need such an example of "European values", maybe young Belarusians trampling their feet at rallies want such freedoms ???
  • And Makarov
    And Makarov 29 October 2020 21: 36
    16
    employees of "Charlie" under the guise of freedom of speech themselves actually radicalize part of French society, reducing the obvious insult to the feelings of believers to the norms of Western democracy

    And then the savages looked into the metropolis.
  • Astra55
    Astra55 29 October 2020 22: 23
    +7
    Let us recall that it all began with a demonstration in one of the country's schools of cartoons of the infamous Charlie Hebdo magazine.

    And if it happened:
    1. In Tatarstan?
    2. In Chechnya?
    3. In Saudi Arabia?
    That was?
    1. smart fellow
      smart fellow 30 October 2020 01: 46
      0
      In Tatarstan, probably an administrative fine or a suspended sentence.
      In Chechnya, the head would be unscrewed.
      In Saudi Arabia, they were publicly flogged and imprisoned.
      Probably so. Or did you ask a rhetorical question?
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 29 October 2020 22: 45
    0
    It is a pity for ordinary francs that they choose such prezes like oland. macron, etc. ... And those are already sagging, pulling refugees from Africa and the East, whom they created when they set up a chain of "Arab revolutions" and devastation ... And now this "Arab revolution" and devastation has come to them. Meet!
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 29 October 2020 22: 59
      24
      Quote: xomaNN
      and devastation came to them. Meet!

      If there is devastation in France, how would you name what is happening in Russia? negative growth?
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 43
      0
      Quote: xomaNN
      It is a pity for ordinary francs that they choose such prezes like oland. macron, etc. ...

      Do you really think that someone is choosing someone? I mean ordinary people like you and me. ))
      Democracy is like a thimble game. It only seems to you that you see what you are shown. In fact, this is just a total naipalovo, under the guise of freedom of expression of the will of the people.
      1. xomaNN
        xomaNN 31 October 2020 14: 39
        0
        However, with all the disadvantages, nothing better than elections has been invented! smile
        Option - coup + dictatorship is unlikely to please the majority of ordinary people. Anarchists in an average static society are hardly more than 3-5%
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 29 October 2020 23: 23
    -1
    well, ishe 1 big terrorist attack and france in a place with the eu will choose a country for war
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 30 October 2020 00: 00
      0
      Are you talking about Turkey?) It will be too difficult) where are they)
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 30 October 2020 03: 52
    0
    This is the fruit of your "tolerance" !!! -.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 30 October 2020 04: 54
    +1
    Here is interest- and why is it that the editorial board will not smash? Al is guarded as a fortress she is. Why do tourists come off?
  • safar gafarov
    safar gafarov 30 October 2020 07: 33
    0
    dogs barking caravan goes
  • Charik
    Charik 30 October 2020 08: 37
    -2
    If the teacher showed a caricature in the lesson, it means that one of the students broke into the killer
  • ALEKSEY
    ALEKSEY 30 October 2020 14: 54
    0
    It seems to me that Macron organized a convenient excuse to introduce martial law in the country. At first, everyone was intimidated with Kovid, they put them at home. But people started kicking. Now, having unleashed a religious confrontation, it introduces the army into the regions - everywhere there is a curfew. Moving is not possible. For any protests or communication - to prison. In the global war against people, different scenarios are launched by non-humans in different countries. And between people, schisms are kindled on religious, geographical grounds, masks / non-masks, etc. On all fronts, everything begins to blaze. People! unite.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 30 October 2020 19: 45
      0
      Quote: ALEKSEY
      It seems to me that Macron organized a convenient excuse to introduce martial law in the country.

      I wouldn't be surprised if one of his accomplices gave Charlie the go-ahead to post such crap. Or maybe even urged on the one who killed the poor teacher. For a big politician, the death of one person, not even a runny nose, but so, a fly flew by. But what are the preferences, in the end ...
  • Selevc
    Selevc 30 October 2020 15: 16
    0
    In addition to the religious and moral underpinnings of the terrorist attacks in France, there are also latent political motives. In simple terms, Erdogan slapped Macron on the neck and, in his face, the rest of the EU !!! Erdogan has so far only shown that he has a baton to beat the French, and the French have practically no leverage over Turkey !!! Except for all sorts of toothless statements and scraping !!!