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"The Difficult Game of Putin." Polish media: Russian President is ready to sacrifice INF Treaty for START-3

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Putin's proposal to abandon the deployment of medium-range missiles in Europe should not be considered a gesture of goodwill. This is part of a strategy invented by the President of the Russian Federation.


This opinion was expressed by the Polish journalist Grzegorz Kuczynski on the Tysol portal.

According to Kuczynski, Putin is ready to sacrifice the INF Treaty for the sake of the Treaty on Strategic Offensive Arms (START-3). He believes that the actions of the Russian president are caused by the desire to obtain a nuclear advantage against Western countries.

Vladimir Putin said that Moscow would not deploy medium-range missiles in European Russia if NATO also refused to deploy them in Europe.

Commenting on this statement, Kuchinsky noted that when the United States allegedly strictly adhered to the INF Treaty, the Russian Federation secretly created the 9M729 missile. The Polish journalist believes that, in fact, the treaty on intermediate and shorter-range missiles ceased to work more than a year ago, after all, allegedly in response to the actions of the Russian Federation, the Americans announced the development of such missiles and their intention to deploy them in Europe. At the same time, Kuchinsky did not pay attention to the fact that the United States somehow surprisingly quickly switched to testing this type of weapon.

But we are talking about something else. The Polish journalist believes that all this is part of Putin's complex game, who wants to extend the START-3 treaty on the same terms favorable to Russia. After all, this agreement provides for the reduction of strategic nuclear weapons, while the Russian Federation has an advantage over the West in non-strategic and tactical types of nuclear weapons.

Thus, Kuczynski believes, Russia can outplay NATO. He also calls not to believe in the presence of hypersonic weapons in Moscow, which, in his opinion, no other state in the world has yet.
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  1. Lexus
    Lexus 29 October 2020 15: 30
    19
    Putin doesn't know how to please his "partners".
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 29 October 2020 15: 35
      -7
      Quote: lexus
      Putin doesn't know how to please his "partners".

      I have already agreed with everything, but the "partners" are all unhappy laughing
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 29 October 2020 15: 36
        +1
        Vladimir hi
        And his partners don't care about missile defense and hypersonic weapons.
        The grandfather became very bad. And with "eternity" something doesn't stick.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 29 October 2020 15: 38
          -9
          Quote: lexus
          And his partners don't care about missile defense and hypersonic weapons. The grandfather became very bad.

          And practically at our borders .. He watched the film .. "Always say yes" and, under the impression of the film, uses this strategy wassat
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 29 October 2020 15: 44
            +6
            He has his "films" now. Whatever the VIP-bunker, but "within the four" walls anyway, sooner or later "the cuckoo will fly away completely." Already go from one word "PEOPLE" is shaking. In this state, any abomination can be expected from him.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 29 October 2020 15: 48
              -10 qualifying.
              Quote: lexus
              Whatever the VIP bunker

              They say there is not one bunker .. in the Altai Territory, another was built for all the inhabitants of heaven .. we are in heaven, they are in a bunker laughing
              Already go from one word "PEOPLE" is shaking.

              That is, that is .. not in vain for everyone who weighs a little something, they start things ..
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 15: 52
                19
                Quote: Svarog
                They say there is not one bunker .. in the Altai Territory, another was built for all the inhabitants of heaven .. we are in heaven, they are in a bunker

                Wait a second. You constantly repeat that Putin and his organized criminal group have all the money with children and villas in the west.
                Why does he need a bunker, and more than one, on the territory of Russia?
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 29 October 2020 16: 36
                  -1
                  Why does he need a bunker, and more than one, on the territory of Russia?
                  And why are there so many residences for rest in the country? (You yourself will not count small ones) And the impression is that he has only one rest. So here it was. The other day I won't believe Satanovsky at Solovyov on YouTube. laughing So Satanovsky himself is shocked by the intricacies of the thoughts of our "super-strategist"
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 29 October 2020 16: 56
                    11
                    The one who is holding the grip under his breath - he kisses him too.
                    "So the master was told, sir. The main thing is to endure the promised paradise, sir." laughing
                    1. krot
                      krot 29 October 2020 17: 40
                      +2
                      According to Kuczynski, Putin is ready to sacrifice ...

                      In my opinion, it is a pity for Putin to incinerate the EU to please the United States in the event of a "small" mess!
                      1. Lexus
                        Lexus 29 October 2020 17: 44
                        14
                        There is such an anecdote.
                        "Beaver, breathe out!" (FROM)
                  2. prior
                    prior 29 October 2020 17: 16
                    0
                    But in Russia, the only one among the countries of the world, the most virtual president appeared.
                    Lives only on TV, rules the country through the virtual space.
                    The successes are also purely virtual.
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 29 October 2020 17: 25
                      17
                      Colleague hi
                      Of the last pearls - rams should "cut themselves off and self-cut"
                    2. veritas
                      veritas 29 October 2020 20: 25
                      +6
                      Quote: prior
                      The successes are also purely virtual.

                      It depends on who. For friends it is quite real, but for the rest of the citizens of the country, of course, virtually everything.
                  3. Lyokha Lokhavich
                    Lyokha Lokhavich 29 October 2020 17: 41
                    +4
                    I will explain to you ukropitek, this is not Putin's residence but the presidential one. will change Putin will howl that this is the residence of another president! I worked there! there each building has a sign for what purpose. but how do you know? I'm Russian and you are dill, your element of construction is multi-storey
              2. Lyokha Lokhavich
                Lyokha Lokhavich 29 October 2020 17: 37
                +4
                so I look and think ... Putin has been re-elected for 20 years, and you are a smart guy, even for 1 day, not that you have not been elected for one term
            2. Lyokha Lokhavich
              Lyokha Lokhavich 29 October 2020 17: 36
              0
              everything is downloading and downloading
            3. vVvAD
              vVvAD 29 October 2020 19: 17
              +3
              Why, without concealing a sin, does the cuckoo praise the rooster? For praising the cuckoo! ©
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 29 October 2020 19: 21
                16
                "Love cannot be treated with herbs." (FROM)
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        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 29 October 2020 15: 45
          11
          Quote: lexus
          The grandfather became very bad.

          And he was "good" and never was. So himself a head club, who dreamed of becoming the director of a taxi company, but there was a hellish metamorphosis "the mountain gave birth to a mouse", or some other kind of rodent thread.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 29 October 2020 15: 50
            +3
            One hundred years, one hundred winters hi
            A good housewife does not have a mole in the closet.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 29 October 2020 15: 53
              14
              Quote: lexus
              One hundred years, one hundred winters

              At the request of workers repeat
              Quote: lexus
              A good housewife does not start a mole in the closet.

              Duc is good, but drunk and stupid, even bad fleas under the skirt start.
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 29 October 2020 15: 58
                +6
                To expect something different and acceptable from a "davalka" is the height of absurdity.
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 29 October 2020 16: 07
            12
            Quote: Stroporez
            dreamed of becoming a director of a taxi company

            if you believe the words of EBN's son-in-law, then Gazprom was the ultimate dream
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 29 October 2020 17: 27
              12
              Sergei hi
              "Dreams Come True". (FROM)
              "But there are not enough of them for all." (FROM)
            2. veritas
              veritas 29 October 2020 20: 27
              -1
              Quote: Overlock
              if you believe the words of EBN's son-in-law, then Gazprom was the ultimate dream

              In a man flooded. Usually, when luck is so, then you have to pay.
        3. Lyokha Lokhavich
          Lyokha Lokhavich 29 October 2020 17: 35
          +3
          horses woke up
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 29 October 2020 15: 46
      +1
      When the Americans needed an agreement with the USSR - START, they themselves made contact, and there was no need to persuade. And now they just don't need him. They do not feel danger ...
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 29 October 2020 15: 47
        +5
        “Grandfather” finished everything Gorbachevskoe to make them as safe as possible. hi
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 29 October 2020 15: 51
          -5
          That's right. hi
          Now all heavy weapons will be thrown beyond the Urals, then 200 km from the border. deep into the taiga, then the URs will gouge, then the divisions will be reduced, then the General Staff do not know where to expel from the "diamond" building ... They just care about defenses ...
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            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 15: 58
              12
              Quote: lexus
              The main thing is to show cartoons to the blissful on time. Look how they are fighting on the next branch about the sraketa in epilepsy. The second day in a row. "News", by the way, is 38 years old. But even here, with their minuses, they pinned themselves like dogs, they cannot say anything worthwhile, they just crack and wag their tail.

              Tell me, how do you fight the hated regime? What are you capable of, other than splashing saliva and emitting anger?
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 29 October 2020 16: 17
                14
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                What are you capable of, other than splashing saliva and emitting anger?

                What's the point of being angry with you? It's very funny to watch the anti-evolution of humans. good laughing
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 16: 25
                  16
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  What's the point of being angry with you? It's very funny to watch the anti-evolution of people who were once reasonable.

                  So you have sunk to rudeness ... Be rude to a person who just does not agree with your point of view. Do you always do this?

                  And the point for you to be angry with Putin, etc. which one? You can at least tell me something, but what about him?
                  It is not necessary to be rude and rude to people on the Internet, and in general to gag, you do not need much valor, rather the opposite.
                  Frankly, I had a better opinion of you.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 29 October 2020 16: 36
                    15
                    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    So you have sunk to rudeness ... Be rude to a person who just does not agree with your point of view.

                    Colleague, you, in the heat of one of you known thoughts, began to carry real nonsense. I was not even going to be rude or rude to you request
                    And it is not my task to get you out of the putriotic ecstasy.
                    Please continue, you are not bothering me at all.
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 29 October 2020 17: 01
                      12
                      For some, "royal enuresis" = "God's dew".
                      "Tastes differ". (FROM) winked
                  2. Svarog
                    Svarog 29 October 2020 16: 40
                    -3
                    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    So you have sunk to rudeness ... Be rude to a person who just does not agree with your point of view. Do you always do this?

                    And where did you see rudeness and rudeness .. You were refined and polite to answer .. antievolution is evolution, but in the opposite direction .. what is boorish and where is rudeness? laughing
                    And it was not about your person specifically, but about the capitalists .. for this is degradation in comparison with socialism. It is enough to look at the key objective indicators, do you trust the numbers? Or do you just trust the president's word?
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 16: 48
                      11
                      You are doing exactly the same thing as civilized Europeans and Americans, namely, you dehumanize your opponents.
                      They have the Russians to blame for everything, but your partners are all who disagree with you.
                      You are asked questions, you ignore them. In particular, you have personally been repeatedly asked to provide at least the slightest bit convincing evidence that Putin has accounts and so on. There was no answer.
                      Again, as Americans, you argue in the key that if someone does not fully share your position, one hundred percent, then he is your enemy. Is this right?
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 29 October 2020 16: 59
                        -1
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        He does not share your position completely, one hundred percent, so he is your enemy. Is this right?

                        I consider the enemies of the state those for whom the population of the country decreases annually, for whom the people are impoverished annually and there are no positive indicators .. I do not consider the growth of billionaires to be a positive indicator, with the middle class salary of 17 tons of wood .. And I do not consider you an enemy .. you just anti-evolution .. but it happens .. If you are interested in the real state of affairs and the causal relationship .. look Oleg Komolov, he will tell you reasonably about the economy .. and about the causal relationship perfectly tells Semin .. Well, about passports and types on the residence of our "elite" you will find, if you wish, on the Internet.
                      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 17: 04
                        +9
                        Why do you only ascribe to yourself and your supporters the exclusive prerogative of possessing true knowledge of the state of affairs? Why do you not admit the possibility of error on your part?
                      3. Svarog
                        Svarog 29 October 2020 18: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Why do you only ascribe to yourself and your supporters the exclusive prerogative of possessing true knowledge of the state of affairs? Why do you not admit the possibility of error on your part?

                        I already answered above .. Purely on the basis of figures and facts .. You consider yourself a sane person? Then compare the key indicators of the USSR and modern Russia, compare the conditions under which the USSR achieved these indicators .. And then, I am a supporter of the fact that 90% of people in our country live well, and in modern Russia only 10% fatten ..
                        So my conclusions are based on numbers and facts .. and what are yours based on?
                      4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 18: 21
                        +2
                        Quote: Svarog
                        So my conclusions are based on numbers and facts .. and what are yours based on?

                        On the same plus logic.
                        The USSR had SVD markets. For example, the annual trade turnover with Czechoslovakia amounted to six billion rubles. Soviet, of course. This is almost three times more than with the FRG (a little over two billion), the leader in trade with the USSR among the capitalist countries.
                        Now these markets do not exist. As there is no iron curtain, the most severe censorship, criminal liability for parasitism and a tax on childlessness, which is a pity.
                        You operate with numbers alone, without taking into account the conjuncture, which deprives your reasoning of objectivity.
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                  3. Svarog
                    Svarog 29 October 2020 21: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Why do you not admit the possibility of error on your part?


                    Listen, everything is detailed here.
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 29 October 2020 17: 24
              22
              Quote: Svarog
              And where did you see rudeness and rudeness .. You were refined and polite to answer .. antievolution is evolution, but in the opposite direction .. what is boorish and where is rudeness?

              Kamrad, thanks for the support! good
              These snitches want to get banned lol
              The adherents of the sect of the last hapka did not expect that from somewhere from heaven Stroporez fell to them laughing laughing laughing
              Happy birthday to the Komsomol! drinks
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 29 October 2020 17: 40
                12
                Mutually, a colleague. soldier
                Adepts twitch in unison with the "authorities" in order to "synchronize" the process of "getting up and down", so that it brings not so much suffering as "pleasure". It's time for their "flag" to sparkle with "new colors". Even more "rosy". To overtake the "zapod" in some way.
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 29 October 2020 17: 43
                23
                Quote: lexus
                Adepts twitch in unison with the "authorities" in order to "synchronize" the process of "getting up"

                These won't get up anymore, they are used to it ...
              3. Lexus
                Lexus 29 October 2020 17: 48
                12
                The "back pain at the end" began to bring them joy.
                "For that fought for it and ran". (FROM)
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 29 October 2020 18: 15
            -1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Kamrad, thanks for the support!

            Always glad to support like-minded people drinks hi
    3. frruc
      frruc 29 October 2020 18: 54
      -5
      Behind the evolution of monkeys too. Ha!
      hi
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  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 29 October 2020 16: 42
    -6
    Quote: lexus
    The main thing is to show cartoons to the blissful on time. Look how they are fighting on the next branch about the sraketa in epilepsy. The second day in a row. "News", by the way, is 38 years old. But even here, with their minuses, they pinned themselves like dogs, they cannot say anything worthwhile, they just crack and wag their tail.

    Seen it. yes We haven't seen any hits or differences when launching the Soviet system yet. What is it that new system except what is written that new. It is not clear.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 29 October 2020 16: 50
      12
      Welcome hi
      So they will choke on their own feces, contemplating a movie about "Fantasy Country" on a dyposcope. The Vachevski sisters to help them, the tight-knit "oilmen".
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 17: 00
        +3
        Quote: lexus
        So they will choke on their own feces, contemplating a movie about "Fantasy Country" on a dyposcope. The Vachevski sisters to help them, the tight-knit "oilmen".

        In your opinion, should a man of Soviet upbringing and education formulate his thoughts in this spirit? Or maybe this is how a Soviet officer should express himself? Or do you profess the ancient Roman principle "In relation to the enemy, everything is permitted"?
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 29 October 2020 18: 04
          16
          "Don't confuse your personal coat with the state one!" (FROM)
          1. veritas
            veritas 29 October 2020 20: 30
            +2
            Quote: lexus
            "Don't confuse your personal coat with the state one!" (FROM)

            And they have considered it stately personal for a long time.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 29 October 2020 20: 33
              17
              Welcome hi
              "Every state has its own mafia, but not every mafia has its own state." (FROM)
            2. veritas
              veritas 29 October 2020 20: 36
              +1
              Quote: lexus
              Welcome hi
              "Every state has its own mafia, but not every mafia has its own state." (FROM)

              hi As exactly said. This is about our reality.
            3. Lexus
              Lexus 29 October 2020 20: 40
              16
              Those who gripped themselves from reality "isolated themselves".
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 October 2020 16: 06
    0
    Quote: Doccor18
    They just care about defenses ...

    About someone else's, but not about yours.
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 29 October 2020 15: 58
    17
    Quote: Doccor18
    When the Americans needed an agreement with the USSR - START, they themselves made contact, and there was no need to persuade. And now they just don't need him. They do not feel danger ...

    And what danger can there be from narrow-minded and very greedy gaspods if you keep in your safe a couple of trillions of theirs, stolen from gullible citizens, money.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 29 October 2020 16: 04
      +8
      So the first "inhabitant of the Scandinavian mountains" has arrived. It gets dark. In Igonor it is.
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 29 October 2020 16: 10
      +9
      And what danger can there be from narrow-minded and very greedy gaspods if you keep in your safe a couple of trillions of theirs, stolen from gullible citizens, money.



      You are right.
      However, the Chinese "keep in the safe" even more (several times) green papers ... But they only use this green mass only as a means of enriching and developing their own country. And sometimes as a way of financial pressure on some ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 29 October 2020 16: 20
        +1
        Quote: Doccor18
        And what danger can there be from narrow-minded and very greedy gaspods if you keep in your safe a couple of trillions of theirs, stolen from gullible citizens, money.



        You are right.
        However, the Chinese "keep in the safe" even more (several times) green papers ... But they only use this green mass only as a means of enriching and developing their own country. And sometimes as a way of financial pressure on some ...

        So there are statesmen at the helm, and we have a bastard .. that's the difference in the result .. Who was China 30 years ago .. a backward state in fact and everyone laughed at their product .. Now nobody laughs .. laugh at the gas superpower .. which for 30 years has not managed to give birth to anything ..
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 29 October 2020 16: 23
        23
        Quote: Doccor18
        But they use this green mass only as a means of enriching and developing their own country.

        And they do great, but for us only cartoons ...
        1. depressant
          depressant 29 October 2020 16: 41
          +7
          I looked. Already consciousness shifted. Something incredible! Some other world. And we can assume that no one stole anything, everything is strictly according to the contract.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 29 October 2020 16: 47
            26
            Quote: depressant
            I looked. Already consciousness shifted. Something incredible! Some other world. And we can assume that no one stole anything, everything is strictly according to the contract.

            Greetings Colleague! I am glad that you also liked other people's achievements without cartoons and unnecessary PR, because we have nothing but promises to rejoice at. Oh, yes, we have Nord Stream 122 and the forces of Siberia, these are peremogues, you can applaud.
            If you compare the Crimean bridge with this masterpiece, you can cry. although the price is very comparable.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 29 October 2020 17: 15
              12
              Cheaper than the "Haraysky Wrottenberg Bridge", built.
              But the very process of "getting up is slender" is important for skrepomasochists.
              For the result is expected - stuffed with "joy" scraping.
          2. Doccor18
            Doccor18 29 October 2020 17: 44
            +1
            that at the same time no one stole anything, everything is strictly according to the contract

            This is not difficult. You just need to love your homeland. Everyone, both a worker at a construction site and the chairman of the government. To love equally and unselfishly ...
          3. Lyokha Lokhavich
            Lyokha Lokhavich 29 October 2020 17: 54
            0
            of course .... that's why they shoot 15 people a year for corruption! well yes! no one steals ... what are you ...
          4. Lyokha Lokhavich
            Lyokha Lokhavich 29 October 2020 17: 55
            -2
            although everything is stolen in Ukraine! how much is the state debt in ukraine per capita? almost lam bucks?)))) but well, yes .... and corruption in Russia)))
          5. Svarog
            Svarog 29 October 2020 18: 18
            +1
            Quote: depressant
            Something incredible! Some other world.

            This is what happens when statesmen are in power .. I also had different thoughts .. on the one hand, well done, of course ... but on the other .. but we could have been better, thirty years ago, China was underdeveloped in comparison with the USSR banana country ... and now we have changed places .. hi
            1. not main
              not main 29 October 2020 21: 17
              -1
              Quote: Svarog
              Thirty years ago, compared to the USSR, China was an underdeveloped banana country ... but now we have changed places ..

              That's it! Only you are wrong with the dates. Forty years ago, the Qom Party of China announced a New Economic Policy! Almost like we have in the 20s of the NEP!
        2. venik
          venik 29 October 2020 18: 11
          +5
          Quote: Stroporez
          And they do great, but for us only cartoons ...

          ======
          And THIS is also a "cartoon" ???:


          Or maybe - THIS is a "cartoon" ?:


          Or that?:


          Oh and not sickly "Soyuzmultfilm" works !!!
          Therefore, let's consider your statement: "... And they do great, but for us only cartoons.... "just a flash of irritation (especially since we have WHAT to" get irritated "!
          PS But "irritation" in no way should obscure the mind! This is for "pale youths with a burning gaze", but certainly not for serious men !!! Especially - for those who are trying to UNDERSTAND and ANALYZE! hi
          1. depressant
            depressant 29 October 2020 19: 06
            +2
            Yes, I drove across the Crimean bridge - virtually, of course. In real time. This took about 22 minutes. And, you know, I was very impressed, very much. I know about the growing factories of the chemical industry, and I know about other new factories, but I am a Zen traveler, it tells a lot about the construction of new enterprises. One thing is insulting - we have seriously lost the pace. There are several reasons, but one is especially annoying - the huge export of capital due to the unwillingness of our capitalists to invest in their country - they do not believe that business will remain with them. Plus, they are the first generation of the rich, they are the nouveau riche. Such people tend to personally enrich themselves, and not invest in the development of places that are sources of income. Here's how to make them finally believe in Russia as their own country?
            What is wrong for them? And after all, there is no government for them. Stamp your foot, they will immediately sell the businesses to foreigners.
            And China ... Somehow China found justice. There are hundreds of roads like the ones shown in the video in China! Airports, with their power, make even Europeans go numb with surprise, and the second most graduated city of Chongqing? The point is not that 34 million people live in it, but that with so many people, most of whom live in skyscrapers, there is an ideal infrastructure. And continuous construction all over the country. All of this should have been with us.
            But ... But for each joyful video about our any achievement, there are necessarily several videos about the wooded destroyed factory buildings.
            1. venik
              venik 29 October 2020 20: 10
              +1
              Quote: depressant
              Yes, I drove over the Crimean bridge - virtually of course.

              ========
              And try it - REALLY !!! This is really IMPRESSIVE!
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              Quote: depressant
              I know about the growing factories of the chemical industry, and I know about other new factories, but I am a Zen traveler, it tells a lot about the construction of new enterprises.

              ========
              I highly recommend taking a ride on new factories WITHOUT "Zen"! This - also IMPRESSED !!!
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              Quote: depressant
              One thing is offensive - we seriously lost the pace

              ========
              good drinks
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              Quote: depressant
              There are several reasons, but one is especially annoying - the huge export of capital due to the unwillingness of our capitalists to invest in their country

              ========
              good drinks
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              Quote: depressant
              It is common for such people to personally enrich themselves, and not to invest in the development of places that are sources of income. Here's how to make them finally believe in Russia as their own country?

              ========
              request Maybe you need to "hit on the head with a stick"? request Although - is unlikely to help! The psychology of "stealing more and" fading away "is so easy to knock out of the heads of the" newly-made nouveau riche "! Oh, how difficult! "Business elites" - are brought up for centuries! And what we have is an ordinary ROUGH !!! How is it with Yu. Semenov in "17 Moments of Spring" - "the lowest rank who stole the general's boots"? ......
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              Quote: depressant
              All of this should have been with us.

              ========
              It remains to be hoped that someday - WILL BE! Until then .... It remains to DO WHAT WHO CAN (on IN YOUR PLACE!). Otherwise, all this is "empty chatter" and nothing more! hi drinks
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 29 October 2020 22: 39
                21
                Quote: venik
                It remains to be hoped that someday - WILL BE! In the meantime .... It remains to DO WHAT WHO CAN (in its OWN PLACE!). Otherwise, all this is "empty chatter" and nothing more!

                Right! We stay for the winter, each in its place!
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 30 October 2020 00: 10
              +1
              Read on the Internet what area the "city" of Chongqing occupies and how many millions of peasants live there. Legally, this is a city of central subordination, but in fact a province located within another province.
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 29 October 2020 19: 06
            +1
            Oh and not sickly "Soyuzmultfilm" works !!!

            A single window dressing, on which some friends of a person who has been reset to zero have become rich, it is shameful to put it as an example.
            Here are real things ... not for show ... and this reality is all over Russia
            1. depressant
              depressant 29 October 2020 19: 32
              0
              Thank you, Svarog.
              Yes, that's what I'm talking about in the comments above. Whole industrial cities are fading into oblivion, such as those that produced products that were competitive in the world market and in demand in their own country. "Effective" managers still roam the cities and villages in ravenous flocks, looking around, predatory looking for what is still useful from the Union, and ruin, ruin, turning what was found into ruins. So that there is no memory left. To exterminate working collectives with Soviet throwing skills. And now new generations have grown up, which now try to force to create. They are accustomed only to ruin. They think ruining is good and profitable. The country is sick with the emerged habit of ruin.
              1. Strannik96
                Strannik96 29 October 2020 23: 44
                +1
                The body lamp has an eye. So, if your eye is clean, then your whole body will be bright.
                How a person wants to see - even his health depends on it. Try to see good, you will all be healthy
          3. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 29 October 2020 22: 25
            24
            Quote: venik
            just a flash of irritation (especially since we have WHAT to “get irritated”! "

            Colleague, no annoyance, just a statement of facts

            1. depressant
              depressant 29 October 2020 23: 16
              +1
              It must be thought that there was a clear field on the other side, and then suddenly there was such a ... China?
              And with this - stability, or rather a stabilizer (for the Administrator: I meant "ambets", the designation of the end of the work in common parlance, and then suddenly think bad).
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 29 October 2020 23: 28
                24
                Quote: depressant
                then, one must think, there was a clear field on that side, and then suddenly there was such a ... China?

                Exactly! And now, pay attention to our opponents, while the whole world develops, builds, creates new technologies, breaks into deep space, improves the quality of life and enjoys it, they stubbornly continue to rejoice at the cartoon sroket and the opportunity to bomb the whole world, but even the sroket is not theirs, ahoy another Great country that Putinism cannot finish, although the courage of the Russian scraponauts helped to save the Russian segment at the American station, wrapped in Chinese scotch tape, that's what we have lived to see. That is why I love the president very much!
                1. depressant
                  depressant 30 October 2020 00: 19
                  +1
                  Yes, at least 10 Putin.
                  Studying the once-reliant course of political economy, at the seminar I was surprised to hear a gloomy remark from a teacher that there are no significant economists in the Union, the economic school as a scientific institution is completely absent. This surprised me so much that I remembered it and kept thinking: how is that? After all, is there an economy?
                  And now I found out that by the mid-80s, by the mid-40s, as many as 90 were created, and each had several scientific economic institutes and each had a huge staff of scientific workers who did not produce anything except candidate and doctoral dissertations created on the basis of links on the labors of colleagues of earlier calls. This was a deliberate sabotage that continued until the XNUMXs. How could the Union withstand this? It's amazing that he held out for some time.
                  But then, in the 90s, all these hordes of specialists in pouring from empty to empty crawled through the newly created ministries, departments, departments, pseudoscientific institutions and other organizations of the same kind and continue the same economic policy that had become part of the method of killing the country earlier and is the same now.
                  As soon as the political leadership puts forward a reasonable national project, the number of which has already been halved, assignments are distributed among ministries, departments and other gangs, and endless presentations, conferences to study "experience", business trips, meetings begin in the spirit of the new era. , meetings, and other endless talking shop. As a result, the tasks are "optimized", blurred, change their essence, then in such a distorted state they descend to the grassroots organizations, they perform the above actions already at their level, and now, instead of creating a machine-tool plant, the project degenerates into a task for Vasya Pupkin to build a workshop for the production of vice for clamping fittings. And the allocated huge funds are spent on all these presentations-optimization-business trips and, along the way, are skillfully stolen ...
                  Do you think they took power in 91 for what? For this, and took - to reproduce in time and space.
                  This is how it was in the 20s of the last century, until the NEP was closed. Who and how will cover these?
          4. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 29 October 2020 22: 50
            22
            Quote: venik
            And THIS is also a "cartoon" ???:

            To be honest, these chicken coops are not impressive. Perhaps this is serious for Guatemala, but for great Russia it is necessary something like this:
  • Nasdaq
    Nasdaq 29 October 2020 17: 34
    -2
    When the Americans needed an agreement with the USSR - START, they themselves made contact, and there was no need to persuade. And now they just don't need him. They do not feel danger ...

    The sizes of the US and Russian economies are not comparable. The Americans know that Russia will not pull the arms race, so they "like" propose: either we (the states) are going to breakaway in terms of missile defense and offensive weapons (by terminating and / or not extending
    agreements on the INF, ABM, START), or we agree on our terms, or join the devastating arms race.
    They trade like in an oriental bazaar.
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  • GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 October 2020 16: 46
    -1
    Quote: lexus
    Putin doesn't know how to please his "partners".

    Looks like there is no money for everything.
    1. Lyokha Lokhavich
      Lyokha Lokhavich 29 October 2020 18: 07
      -4
      of course there is no money, 3 times to pay 15 rubles per child, raise pensions, raise children’s, allocate 000 rubles for one child and 400 rubles for the second, raise children’s, raise single mothers, support business from large to small, and now again at 000 each child .... I wonder which of you has ever helped someone in need? who took and helped? how much 600r? 000? B, B, Putin allocates from the presidential 15 rubles for promising scientific developments! how much have you allocated? 000? how much have you done, not just for Russia, but at least for a neighbor or a needy person? sat and show off at the monitor? which of you sitting here has invested even a ruble in the development of an interplanetary tug? nobody? I'm afraid that the majority here do not even suspect what it is! You are sitting here insulting Putin, and you yourself are aching nothing, throw it out into the street in your underpants and die in a week! moral rogue! treacherous education of dead Ukraine with its gay parades .... what have we done you that you hate us so much? their country was put under the hammer .... the national debt was collected exorbitant, ..... well ..... let's see how you survive another year! Putin and I will survive in Russia! and you? .... I doubt it! when there is nothing to eat, you will start whining, betraying your own for a piece of bread ..... you yourself have chosen this fate!
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 October 2020 18: 27
        +6
        Quote: Lyokha Lokhavich
        of course there is no money, 3 times to pay 15 rubles per child, raise pensions, raise children’s, allocate 000 rubles for one child and 400 rubles for the second, raise children’s, raise single mothers, support business from large to small, and now again at 000 each child .... I wonder which of you has ever helped someone in need? who took and helped? how much 600r? 000? B, B, Putin allocates from the presidential 15 rubles for promising scientific developments! how much have you allocated? 000? how much have you done, not just for Russia, but at least for a neighbor or a needy person? sat and show off at the monitor? which of you sitting here has invested even a ruble in the development of an interplanetary tug? nobody? I'm afraid that the majority here do not even suspect what it is! You are sitting here insulting Putin, and you yourself are aching nothing, throw it out into the street in your underpants and die in a week! moral rogue! treacherous education of dead Ukraine with its gay parades .... what have we done you that you hate us so much? their country was put under the hammer .... the national debt was collected exorbitant, ..... well ..... let's see how you survive another year! Putin and I will survive in Russia! and you? .... I doubt it! when there is nothing to eat, you will start whining, betraying your own for a piece of bread ..... you yourself have chosen this fate!

        Monsieur, I think you missed your medication.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 29 October 2020 15: 31
    +7
    Poles can only be fed. Let birches be better planted, the air will be cleaner, otherwise they stink.
  • Anatoly 288
    Anatoly 288 29 October 2020 15: 31
    +6
    Wow, what a cunning Pole! I calculated everything, nothing was hidden from his gaze! If the X hour comes, Poland will have to be erased from the map
  • Woodman
    Woodman 29 October 2020 15: 31
    +3
    Vladimir Putin said that Moscow would not deploy medium-range missiles in European Russia if NATO also refused to deploy them in Europe.
    That would be fair.
    all this is part of Putin's complex game, who wants to extend the START-3 treaty on the same terms favorable to Russia.

    It would be strange if Putin cared about favorable conditions for NATO countries. This is not Gorbachev.
    He also calls not to believe in the presence of hypersonic weapons in Moscow.

    These are all cartoons.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 29 October 2020 15: 32
    +8
    Yes, Polyakhia won't live a day in vain if someone from bureaucrats or a journalist does not write rubbish about Russia! And the more stupid they "give out on the mountain", the more solid their belief in their own stupidity! Or, do they hold the whole world around them for their own kind in terms of their lack of intelligence? ?? fool fool
  • lucul
    lucul 29 October 2020 15: 40
    +3
    At the same time, Kuchinsky did not pay attention to the fact that the United States somehow surprisingly quickly switched to testing this type of weapon.

    Well, this Kuczynski acts strictly according to the classics:
  • Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 29 October 2020 15: 43
    +4
    The Polish journalist believes that all this is part of Putin's complex game, who wants to extend the START-3 treaty on the same terms favorable to Russia.

    He's a strange Polish journalist. Putin himself said publicly that we would not hold on to this agreement and would not beg any of the "partners". And he (the journalist) has strange conclusions about the benefits for Russia of the current treaty, which does not include China or other states possessing nuclear weapons.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 29 October 2020 15: 49
    -3
    yes such an opinion that Putin mishandled since 2000 does everything to please all the current forgets that they spit on the Russian Federation! I am sure the Russian Federation will make concessions, otherwise families will not be able to get the loot from gas and oil! Why do you think why the ruble falls dk over and over to come, they don't want to lose, but spit on the people and don't care that the pension is 200 bucks
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 October 2020 15: 55
    +1
    The thoughts of the mouse are heard when there is a showdown between the powers that be.
  • set of sets
    set of sets 29 October 2020 16: 07
    +1
    This is to say later: "And I told you, warned and offered, but you yourself did not want to"))
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 29 October 2020 16: 29
      -5
      anything can be! maybe he says we will make any concessions, the main thing is to start a conversation)
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 29 October 2020 16: 34
    +1
    Return of Russia to Cuba.
    1. Lontus
      Lontus 29 October 2020 19: 48
      -2
      Quote: Guards turn
      Return of Russia to Cuba.

      There, the British do without the Russian Federation - they control Cuba directly, without the old masking strip.
      1. Guards turn
        Guards turn 29 October 2020 20: 45
        +2
        Return to Cuba
        The trip of Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov to Cuba resulted in contracts worth more than $ 260 million. An extensive program for future cooperation is outlined. All projects are of a long-term strategic nature and will determine the future of the Cuban economy for decades - this is cooperation in the field of energy, industry, medicine, pharmaceuticals, and agriculture. Further preconditions have been created for the growth of trade and tourism, Yuri Borisov listed. Following the visit, contracts worth more than $ 260 million were signed. About 100 million will be spent on the modernization of three power units of the Juragua nuclear power plant, over 100 million - for the supply of railway cars, about 60 million - for the second stage of modernization of the metallurgical plant, built back in the USSR. in 2019-2021, 837 freight cars. Cuban Energoimport and Russia's Inter RAO Export have agreed on financing a project to modernize three power units with a capacity of 100 megawatts. A contract was signed for the supply of 15 thousand Russian lamps and spare parts to Cuba. Cuban Acinox Comercial and Russian Industrial Engineering have agreed to modernize the metallurgical plant. The Russian company Rosneft also has a large oil production project at the Varadero - Eastern Central Block field with a Cuban national company. Plus Moscow plans to open a mobile complex in Cuba for receiving data from its Earth remote sensing satellites in the optical and infrared observation ranges.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 29 October 2020 16: 36
    +7
    "The Difficult Game of Putin." Polish media: Russian President is ready to sacrifice INF Treaty for START-3

    Only the abuse of the “fish soup” menu can explain all the calculations of the Polish media. However, the interest of Russians, who are still trying to find some common sense and logic in the actions of the West (European countries) in the position of lackeys of the transatlantic "hegemon", is quite surprising.
    All the advantages of Russia are contained in two things: any trouble (danger, aggression of an external enemy, encroachment on sovereignty) can rally the nation to repulse any enemy; The vastness of the country's territory does not allow the aggressor to hope that from some Oymyakon or Uryupinsk a "otvetka" will not arrive, capable of turning all the successes and achievements of the foe into waste.
  • Borz
    Borz 29 October 2020 17: 05
    +3
    He also calls not to believe in the presence of hypersonic weapons in Moscow, which, in his opinion, no other state in the world has yet.



    Of course, don't believe it, don't. It's a lie. Live in your house in complete confidence that nothing threatens you ... The top of the technical thought is the "Badger" armored personnel carrier, the F-16 and the decommissioned frigates of the "Oliver Perry" type.
    Sarcasm, if anything ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 29 October 2020 17: 22
    -3
    Well done, the Pole, so "cheered up" the local get-together!
    ANY PUBLIC FACE is, in fact, a mouthpiece, an exponent of the will of the ruling SYSTEM!
    There will be at least someone there, fluctuations in one direction or another are MINORAL!
    Therefore, the government pays ANYONE to such attention! for the ruling system, they are not a threat, as well as for us, those who are below, no benefit.
    1. frruc
      frruc 29 October 2020 19: 04
      0
      According to Kuczynski, Putin is ready to sacrifice the INF Treaty for the sake of the Treaty on Strategic Offensive Arms (START-3). He believes that the actions of the Russian president are caused by the desire to obtain a nuclear advantage against Western countries.

      It is not for this humanoid to discuss such problems. The Poles will not even be asked what to do, they cannot offer anything except ambition.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 October 2020 19: 52
        +1
        Quote: frruc
        It is not for this humanoid to discuss such problems.

        The guys are "working". He threw a provocation, and the local quarreled without measure and SENSE!
        I, an article of a Pole, did not interest, due to the lack of meaning in it, as such .... but it cheered up the local supporters / opponents of high, public faces !? There is no sense, just to bark ... not tired?
  • mark2
    mark2 29 October 2020 17: 29
    +2
    Ahhh. That's where the Scribblers come together! They creak and "cut" as they think, the truth-womb in the style of "high-like" a lot of big words and links to Internet sites, no evidence. Yesterday Lexus wrote down billions to Putin, only he did not say in which bank. But he knows for sure, but will not tell, because this is classified information. Today the bunkers were credited with ...


    negative
  • Kushka
    Kushka 29 October 2020 17: 41
    +2
    My grandfather said that when Poland was liberated, often
    stumbled upon abandoned smokehouses with skillfully made
    sausages. Their socialism was also peculiar -80%
    privately owned land. I saw how they lived in the CMEA,
    served there in 1972 - lived well). Again, such "happiness"
    how restructuring (with the issuance of smoke at the place of work) they have
    did not have. And even now, having planned 40 lard dollars. to the military
    needs for 5 years, it can already be said, they are fattening. So don't judge
    strictly you this hack. Clever, wise everything is written by people,
    to put it mildly, not spoiled by luxury.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 30 October 2020 00: 34
      0
      1972 is a very good time in Poland. Beginning of Gerek's reign. The transition from a six-day to a five-day, salary growth, housing, motorization of the population, coffee and squid in stores. The deterioration began in the late 70s, when it was time to pay off the debt to the IMF.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 30 October 2020 11: 23
        0
        I was a young sailor, looked at everything wide
        open eyes (once I was so staring that
        I was taken to the Polish lip). Thanks for the info,
        news to me that the socialist countries-members of the CMEA took loans
        at the IMF (in dollars ?!).
        What happened 10 years later under Jaruzelski, I know-
        loans were taken, turnkey factories were purchased, with qualifications
        civilized workers for them did not grow together - collapse
        economy, workers' strikes, tanks in the streets.
  • iouris
    iouris 29 October 2020 17: 58
    -4
    What is he not ready to "sacrifice"?
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 29 October 2020 20: 44
      0
      Yes, nothing ... Putin offered not to place .. the Americans will place, Putin will poke these Europeans and place missiles after them .. as a result, Putin is all in white and was forced to deploy missiles .. this is not a game for America, this is a game for Europe ..
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 29 October 2020 19: 40
    -2
    I did not listen to more delirium, how we are fighters against JV, we also want its development)))))))))))
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 29 October 2020 19: 43
    -3
    Quote: Kushka
    My grandfather said that when Poland was liberated, often
    stumbled upon abandoned smokehouses with skillfully made
    sausages. Their socialism was also peculiar -80%
    privately owned land. I saw how they lived in the CMEA,
    served there in 1972 - lived well). Again, such "happiness"
    how restructuring (with the issuance of smoke at the place of work) they have
    did not have. And even now, having planned 40 lard dollars. to the military
    needs for 5 years, it can already be said, they are fattening. So don't judge
    strictly you this hack. Clever, wise everything is written by people,
    to put it mildly, not spoiled by luxury.

    I won't say much, your story is rubbish, tk. does not pull on the 1930s
    ps if anyone did not understand, my ancestors were sent beyond the Urals by families like kulaks !!!
  • Lontus
    Lontus 29 October 2020 19: 45
    -2
    More! More Tricky Plans!
    Someday some HPP will still work .. !!
  • Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 29 October 2020 20: 42
    -3
    hmmm .. you read what they write here "patriots", especially "automobiles" and you immediately understand .. that with our people it is impossible in an amicable way .. even more ungrateful people cannot be found ..
    1. iouris
      iouris 30 October 2020 12: 15
      0
      Quote: Boris Chernikov
      with our people in an amicable way ... you can't find even more ungrateful people ..

      We need to find another people ...
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 30 October 2020 17: 46
        -1
        or this spank .. because how much good do not you do to him, always throws mud at him and looks "and the neighbor is good!"
  • Astra55
    Astra55 29 October 2020 22: 05
    +9
    In my opinion, the whole (without exaggeration) world knows that listening to the opinion of the Poles and the Tribaltic misunderstanding about Russia is a waste of time.
  • Hermit21
    Hermit21 29 October 2020 22: 16
    +1
    > Refusing to place missiles first;
    > You propose to introduce a mutual moratorium;
    > Offer mutual checks to complete it.
    .
    > ARRRRRYA RUSSIA AGGRESSOR URGENTLY WE PUT ROCKETS

    You have read a short course on the logic of Western elites
  • Old26
    Old26 29 October 2020 22: 47
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Have seen. yes We didn’t see any hits or differences when starting the Soviet system. What is it about that new system, except that it’s written that new. It’s not clear.

    Apparently you are talking about an anti-missile? So, I must grieve you that almost all missile launches at Sary-Shagan are on conditional targets. The only case of an interceptor missile hit was the launches of the V-1000 interceptor missiles of the "A" system, which never entered service. Then they actually launched a medium-range missile from Capyar and hit it with a fragmentation warhead. All launches of the A-35, A-35M, A-135, A-135M systems took place on the so-called. "conditional goal"

    Quote: Guards turn
    Return of Russia to Cuba.

    Only if Cuba wants to. And Russia is not the USSR. If in those years the naval component was planned in the amount of 2 cruisers, about 8 destroyers, two dozen missile boats and 4-6 submarines (and this did not reduce the potential of the USSR), now, in order to assemble such a grouping, all fleets must be exposed ...

    Quote: Nasdaq
    The sizes of the US and Russian economies are not comparable. The Americans know that Russia will not pull the arms race, so they "like" propose: either we (the states) are going to breakaway in terms of missile defense and offensive weapons (by terminating and / or not extending
    agreements on the INF, ABM, START), or we agree on our terms, or join the devastating arms race.
    They trade like in an oriental bazaar.

    Well, the conclusion of an agreement is always a trade and a search for a compromise. As it was at the conclusion of the START-3 treaty. We agreed to their proposal for the number of BGs, they agreed to our proposal for the number of carriers.
    It is quite difficult to break away on the part of missile defense, if one does not use weapons on other physical principles, and not missile ones. But there has not been much progress there either. Putin's proposal to freeze the number of BBs for a year is a very good move. The main thing for us now is to complete the rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces, at least for light missiles. Then we can talk about medium-range missiles. Now, even if we turn ourselves inside out, we will be able to either release strategists, or reduce the number of strategists to release and switch to MRBM.