With the mediation of Sergei Shoigu, Azerbaijan handed over the bodies of dead soldiers to Armenia

The bodies of her dead soldiers were handed over to the Armenian side, as well as two elderly citizens of Armenia. The transfer process is completed today.

This was announced at a briefing in Terter by the aide of the Azerbaijani President Hikmet Hajiyev.

The official praised the mediation in this case of the Russian Federation and its Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu:

We highly appreciate the efforts of the Russian Ministry of Defense and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu in this process. As a result of Russia's support for this humanitarian initiative, the Armenian side agreed to open a humanitarian corridor in Gazakh-Tovuz direction and accept the bodies of its soldiers.

In total, 30 bodies of dead soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Armenia were transferred.

At the same time, Hajiyev claims that initially the Armenian side refused to accept the bodies of the killed military personnel. The Armenian side itself has not yet commented on these statements and the process of transferring the bodies of the dead servicemen.

The intensification of hostilities between Azerbaijan and Armenia began on September 27. The parties accuse each other of unleashing the conflict. At the same time, both Yerevan and Baku declare that the enemy targeted their settlements and civilian infrastructure. At the same time, the Azerbaijani army continues to advance in the conflict zone.

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[Svarog]

It would be better if there was no conflict at all through the mediation of Shoigu .. and the bodies of the dead would have been handed over without Shoigu.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Svarog

It would be better if there was no conflict at all with the mediation of Shoigu ..

There would not have been a conflict if it were not for Pashinyan's provocative behavior and openly hostile statements like "Karabakh is Armenia and that's it." Before him, other Armenian leaders behaved more restrainedly, trying not to bring the situation to a boiling point.

[Ulrich]

So this one sentence is the reason for the war? Seriously?

[Greenwood]

Those. it is necessary to read carefully what I wrote. There are many reasons. This phrase is just one of many dozen.

[Ulrich]

In your commentary it is written that "there would not have been a conflict," unless Pashinyan's behavior and one of his statements - that is, there are no other reasons for the war? That is, Azerbaijan did not prepare for this war in advance, etc.? Here Pashinyan blurted out a couple of times that it was not necessary and went, otherwise there would be no war ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Ulrih

That is, Azerbaijan did not prepare for this war in advance.

What was he to do?
These are large territories for Azerbaijan.

Quote: Ulrih

Here Pashinyan blurted out a couple of times that it was not necessary and went, otherwise there would be no war ...

Not quite.
The initial problem is the complete absence of movement in the negotiation process on the return of Karabakh and adjacent territories to Azerbaijan.
And also regular aggravations on the line of contact. Let me remind you that the last time happened this summer, then the conflict was extinguished.

[Ulrich]

So I'm talking about the same thing, but comrade grit Pashinyan said the wrong thing and off we go. That is, Azerbaijan is just not in business at all.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Ulrih

That is, Azerbaijan is just not in business at all.

I'm not sure what exactly Azerbaijan is to blame in this case.
The moment for the return of Karabakh is now too unfortunate. The main ally, Turkey, is under pressure. The season, again, is not the same, late autumn is preferable.

The only thing can be blamed for that. that patience has run out. With a high probability, the usual wheel of mutual dirty tricks and shelling has spun again. And Baku at one of the moments went to aggravation

[krot]

To the delight of the Anglo-Saxons they shoot each other .. Anyway, peace will be negotiated with the mediation of Russia.

[Albay]

Greetings Lopatov, besides the above you, one of the reasons was the July aggravation, when Armenian units attacked the height in Tovuz from the territory of Armenia. There, a general from the Azerbaijani side died, one of those who, as they say, loved the soldier, the hero of the battles of 2016, Polad Hashimov, after In the April battles, together with Barkhudarov, they received general ranks and apartments from the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, both of them were still expelled from their hometown of Gubatly by their children. Both gave their apartments to the families of soldiers who died in those April battles, despite the fact that they themselves lived as tenants and did not have their own apartment. After the death of Gashimov, despite strict quarantine, a 200-strong rally was held in Baku with the slogans “Supreme Commander-in-Chief, give the order, let us liberate the country!” I think this also strengthened the President's opinion that it is time to put an end to these provocations.
2.By the way, of course, spring-summer is preferable, autumn and winter are a difficult time for war there ..
3. Major General Barkhudarov, commander of the 1st AK liberated his hometown and continues to smash the enemy.
Yours!

[icant007]

Quote: Ulrih

That is, Azerbaijan did not prepare for this war in advance, etc.?

If you want peace, prepare for war.

Pashinyan, in his own words, put an end to the possibility of a peaceful settlement. If earlier Azerbaijan had positive expectations, then after the phrase "Karabakh is Armenia" Pashinyan simply blessed Aliyev.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Ulrih

In your commentary it is written that "there would not have been a conflict," unless Pashinyan's behavior and one of his statements - that is, there are no other reasons for the war? That is, Azerbaijan did not prepare for this war in advance, etc.? Here Pashinyan blurted out a couple of times that it was not necessary and went, otherwise there would be no war ...

Pashinyan's policy contributed to the weakening of Armenia. Armenian Maidan. weakened the country. The weak and the sick are first devoured. Everything is like in the jungle.

[Ganja]

and you know he didn’t just say this, beforehand he allowed himself to offend the Azerbaijanis as a nation of cowards, and the sick Armenian generals openly threatened to seize Nakhichevan and Ganja. Even Pashinyan's wife, Anna, took a submachine gun in her hand and began to behave in an inappropriate way of women in the Caucasus, which caused indignation among the military and former veterans of the first Karabakh war. Everyone knows that if a man in the Caucasus cannot control his woman, then he is just a rag. All this was the last drop in the bowl where the arrogance and deceit of the opposite side for 30 years and blew up the situation

[Sling cutter]

Allow all Companions and Colleagues to wish Happy Birthday to the Komsomol!
Happy Holidays Comrades !!!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Stroporez

Allow all Companions and Colleagues to wish Happy Birthday to the Komsomol!
Happy Holidays Comrades !!!

This is for United Russia - most come from the active part of the Komsomol

[Astra55]

The old conflict, of course, is in neglect, but at this stage it would not have developed into a hot phase if there were a Russian military base there.
This would be the guarantor of a solution to the issue exclusively by peaceful means.

[Ganja]

this would be possible if, for example, until 2016, the Russian authorities understood where Russia's interests in the South Caucasus are and would not treat the Armenians as spoiled vassals, then there would not even be any need for military bases

[iouris]

Quote: Svarog

It would be better if there was no conflict at all with the mediation of Shoigu ..

This is the essence!

[Krasnodar]

Elderly people left in the conquered villages?

[Lopatov]

To our great regret, non-combatants ALWAYS remain in the areas of hostilities, no matter how much you evacuate them, no matter how much you declare humanitarian pauses and the like. Here you can only fight for the percentage of those who left the war .. Or rather, both sides of the conflict must fight for this.

And to our great regret, among those who remained, mostly the elderly. They said that even in Bamut one grandfather was found, although the village was completely empty

[Krasnodar]

Tin, of course, is such a trauma in old age. I hope someone is waiting for them in Armenia

[Servisinzhener]

Knowing the strength of the family ties of Armenians, I can rest assured that they will not be left without a roof over their heads.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Servisinzhener

Knowing the strength of the family ties of Armenians, I can rest assured that they will not be left without a roof over their heads.

They are dead.
It's too late to talk about the "roof over your head".

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Servisinzhener

Knowing the strength of the family ties of Armenians, I can rest assured that they will not be left without a roof over their heads.

They are dead.
It's too late to talk about the "roof over your head".

No, he hovered in the Azerbaijani "satellite" that the living

[Lopatov]

Quote: Krasnodar

No, he hovered in the Azerbaijani "satellite" that the living

These are alive, others are dead.
War.

The proposal is unsuccessful in the article.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Krasnodar

Elderly people left in the conquered villages?

Young people with children also left the Donbass, burning from the war. The old people stayed. sent their future (children and grandchildren) to live. Who needs us. Even relatives will endure a week or two, and friction and discontent will begin ... God forbid anyone to experience this.

[Machito]

I think that the losses of opponents are two orders of magnitude higher, at least.

[genisis]

I wonder why the Azerbaijani side stubbornly refuses to take the bodies of their victims?

[Kerensky]

why does the Azerbaijani side stubbornly refuse to take the bodies of their victims?

If the battlefield remained for the Armenians, then it would be for them to collect the Azerbaijani and their own victims. If the battlefield is left to the Azerbaijanis, where will the Azerbaijani victims come from for the Armenians?

[genisis]

I will not post the video here.
You can follow the link to see how many dead Azerbaijanis lie on the battlefield
https://youtu.be/0whO4fnzAKY
And this is only a small part. There are plenty of such videos on the web.

[Kerensky]

how many dead Azerbaijanis lie on the battlefield

AND? Once again ... If the battlefield is behind me, then I remove the fallen, collect trophies, describe and document everything. If they follow the enemy, they won't let me go there. If neutral, then in a truce everyone does their own.
So far logical?

[genisis]

We, apparently, did not understand each other.
My question was: "Why does the Azerbaijani side not take the bodies of their dead, which the Armenian side has collected and is ready to hand over to the Azerbaijani side?"

[Kerensky]

does not take the bodies of his dead,

The documents of the prisoners (wounded) and the dead are transferred to the IWC mission. Body sweat.
Armenia handed over documents?

[genisis]

“A ceasefire is announced from 12:00 on October 10, 2020 for humanitarian purposes for the exchange of prisoners of war and other detained persons and bodies of the dead through the mediation of and in accordance with the criteria of the International Committee of the Red Cross"- read the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry Sergei Lavrov of the text of the message.

[Ganja]

Perhaps the bodies of some of the dead Azerbaijanis are in the hands of the Armenians - this is a war and no one argues with this, well, the fact is that in Azerbaijan there are bodies of dead Armenians at least by an order of magnitude higher than the official data of the Armenian Defense Ministry. The exchange is possible even through Georgia, as the Georgian officials talked about, but the fact is that Armenia, fed for 40 years of society about its greatness, is not ready to accept these bodies for one, even two or three times. And so the Azerbaijani side has always expressed its readiness to give these bodies, without any condition, about which we were all witnesses of today's step

[Gardamir]

Is Shoigu now the Minister of Foreign Affairs?

[icant007]

Quote: Gardamir

Is Shoigu now the Minister of Foreign Affairs?

So Lavrov is in quarantine) Shoigu for him)

[dgonni]

Well, after all, Armenia took its dead
Azerbaijan had to persuade the Armenians for a week to take their military and civilians.
What kind of leadership is in Armenia?
Although on the other hand, it is understandable that the funeral of the victims does not contribute to a tolerant attitude towards the leadership

[genisis]

Well, yes.
Therefore, the Armenian side daily publishes the list of the dead, and the Azeri side designates the data as "concealed".

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: dgonni

Well, after all, Armenia took its dead
Azerbaijan had to persuade the Armenians for a week to take their military and civilians.
What kind of leadership is in Armenia?

Because the magpie Pashinyan does not care about the citizens of Armenia and the NKR, the main thing for him is to work out the tasks of his curators from Washington, and he does not care about everything else.

[KARAKURT777]

For two weeks the Armenians were offered to take away about one and a half thousand bodies of their servicemen. So they still stubbornly refuse to take them.

[Ganja]

you are right, for so many years and this is not a little, almost 40 years, since Gorbachev's shootout, the Armenians gouge out about his identity, about the greatness of a small people who must destroy all the Turkic-speaking people (no matter how strange and allies in the CSTO) and this is God's command and mission of an unconquerable people. And here you bam so many who died in an incomprehensible war, especially 18-20 year old boys. Only the mothers of these boys are able to break not only the current ruling clique, but also those who came before them.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Ganja

... so many years and this is a lot, almost 40 years, starting with the Gorbachevsky shootout,
Armenians are gouged about their peculiarity, about the greatness of a small nation

And once among the Armenians there were such ...

[Thrifty]

That is, otherwise the exchange of bodies is impossible, and in order for each side to take their dead, "very influential people" are needed - ideally Trump and Putin will do? ??

[Lopatov]

Quote: Thrifty

and for each side to take their dead, "very influential people" are needed - ideally Trump and Putin will do? ??

You can also lower the rank. For example, the elders. Many people know what I mean.

It's just that the parties to the conflict do not trust each other at all.

[Thrifty]

Lopatov - Well, since the matter went, albeit with a creak, but only with Shoigu present, the elders are clearly not trusted there, otherwise the bodies would have been collected long ago, taken away, and betrayed as it should be, according to customs, to the earth!

[Lopatov]

Quote: Thrifty

well, since it went smoothly

It doesn't mean anything.
Don't put too much emphasis on the event. Shoigu got promoted, the Azerbaijanis made a curtsey in his direction, everyone is happy with their importance.

[Generator Systems]

I may not understand something, but what does Shaigu have to do with it?

[Lopatov]

It could have been anyone. Artist, big entrepreneur, doctor. The main thing is that he has authority on both sides.

[icant007]

Quote: Systems Generator

I may not understand something, but what does Shaigu have to do with it?

In general, peacekeeping is one of the areas of responsibility of the Ministry of Defense.

[Guards turn]

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[APASUS]

Maybe the bodies of the dead will be exchanged, at least some kind of dialogue will begin? In fact, it's strange that they can't agree on the dead

[Vadim237]

There will be no dialogue Azerbaijan will not stop until it returns the entire territory of NKR under its control.

[Lexus]

"Even a tuft of wool from a black sheep." (FROM)

[Runway]

Our urchin ripen everywhere ...

[svoit]

Quote: icant007

then after the phrase "Karabakh is Armenia" Pashinyan simply blessed Aliyev.

But this is nothing more than rhetoric, he still did not take any practical measures, did not annex the territory of the NKR (and at the same time 7 regions) to Armenia, nor did he even recognize the independence of the NKR. That is, de jure, the negotiation process was not complicated by his rhetoric and was not interrupted.

Quote: Vadim237

Azerbaijan will not stop until it returns the entire territory of the NKR under its control.

Although right now is the most opportune moment to consolidate our military successes politically, if Aliyev is an independent politician, he can do it, he dictates the conditions and Armenia will agree to almost everything. It would be foolish to miss such a moment. I hope he will be able to deal with the instigators in the form of Erdogan and his "patriots"?
Now is the time to recognize the independence of the NKR, possibly changing its borders to leave a connection with Armenia. Agree to the withdrawal of all Armenian formations from there and the deployment of peacekeeping forces.