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Western prosperity was laid by the slave and drug trade

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Western prosperity was laid by the slave and drug trade

The Indians meet Columbus. Old engraving


The basis of modern material well-being of Western civilization was laid by open robbery, slave trade and drug trade. It was this dirty money that was invested in the creation of modern industrial production.

The predatory civilization of the West


At the heart of Western civilization has always been predation, parasitism. Appropriation of the results of someone else's labor, the seizure of someone else's resources and energy. The West cannot exist without the "development" of other people's resources and will simply perish. Popes divided the land with one stroke of the pen. The popes believed that their dream of world domination was being fulfilled, they registered new countries and peoples as subjects of the “holy throne”. Popular история great geographical discoveries is full of myths and lies. The Europeans allegedly "discovered" Africa, India, China and America. They brought the peoples of the world "civilization". In fact, the ancient Europeans already knew about the existence of these worlds-civilizations. There was no need to open them. They developed and flourished without the Europeans.

The Europeans “opened” them in order to plunder and enslave them. In the east, mighty Russia rose, it was not possible to enslave it. Although they tried repeatedly (and continued to try), they threw some crusaders and "civilizers" after others at the Russians. And the West could not live without other people's resources, it began to rapidly degrade and collapse. It was necessary to find new "hunting fields". Then they picked up old maps in the archives and went overseas. Predatory squadrons went out into the seas and oceans. Italian cities monopolized the Mediterranean. The Spaniards reached America and destroyed the local old civilizations. We got to the Philippines. After that, Spain bathed in stolen silver and gold. Madrid dreamed of world domination. But the plundered treasures of America, the luxury and pride of the Spanish court did not lead to good. Administrative mistakes, envy of France, England and Holland prevented Spain from becoming the dominant power in the West.

The Portuguese seized the wealth of Brazil, created a chain of their bases along the coast of Africa, seized the ports of Arabia, Persia, India, Ceylon, Malacca, and penetrated into Indonesia, China and Japan. The unrestrained plunder of the world began. In the dark impoverished Europe riches poured from all continents, which civilizations, powers, peoples and tribes have been saving for centuries and even millennia. These flows of wealth have changed the face of the West. The Renaissance was approaching with a riot of luxury, hedonism and debauchery. Christian (Catholic) morality degraded and collapsed. The European nobility openly threw off the Christian restrictions that embarrassed it. The Reformation began. Rome resisted (Counter-Reformation).

On this wave, Protestant Europe and a new morality were born. Calvin taught that every person, regardless of his earthly affairs, is knowingly determined by God for salvation or condemnation. It was easy to distinguish the “chosen ones” from others: those whom God loved, he marked with wealth and prosperity. The fate of the “unelected” is to obey and work for them. And power should not belong to kings, but to the councils of the "chosen ones." This theory was very popular with many nobles, bankers-usurers, merchants, owners of ships and manufactories. The first riots were raised by the Netherlands, then belonging to Spain. Holland was created after the carnage. England was also in the Protestant camp. The capital of the Italian aristocracy, acquired by hundreds of years of plunder, piracy and slave trade in the Mediterranean and Black Seas, began to flow to London.

Dutch and English pirates


The Catholic and Protestant worlds fought for dominance in Europe and the world. Spain and Portugal enslaved countries and peoples under the pretext of converting to Christianity, converts to Christianity were considered people. The Spanish and Portuguese took local women as wives, and their children were full members of society. The Dutch and the British dispensed with formalities. What does Christianity have to do with it, when you can simply rob, rape and kill? Protestants, the "chosen ones" did not consider many of the Europeans, for example, the Slavs and Irish, to be full-fledged people. And the aborigines of America and Africa were generally considered animals that can be exterminated without regret, seize their wealth, land, free up "living space."

The British broke through to North America. The Indian tribes were soldered with "fiery water", concluded profitable "agreements", seized their lands. The Indian tribes, which bled to death in the internecine wars, were playing against each other. Established the East India Company. Their ships rushed eastward. The British adopted a divide and conquer policy. They helped the Persians and Indian Rajs to fight against the Portuguese, supplied them weapons... In return, they received the right to open trading posts in Persia, build fortresses in India. Soon they got on their feet, defeated competitors and began to dictate their will to the natives. In China, port cities were shot and the local authorities were forced to "open" them for trade (beneficial to them).

The Netherlands had not yet completed the "liberation" war with Spain, but it was already collecting soldiers and building ships for predatory and invasion campaigns. The Dutch wealthy also established the East India Company. She was given huge rights. It was actually a state within a state. The company had its own army, navy, could conduct its own foreign policy, declare and wage war, seize land, judge, execute and pardon. The state itself became an appendage of a trading company. Its directors were part of the government, could use the resources of the entire country. Nobody could interfere in the affairs of the company. The Dutch began to seize Indonesia, established ports and bases in Java, Sumatra and Borneo. They took Malacca from the Portuguese, some of the islands, seized a bridgehead in South America, established themselves on about. Taiwan.

In addition to the East India Company, there was the West India Company. She conquered the "no-man's" islands in the Caribbean. Established the New Netherlands colony on the Hudson with its center in New Amsterdam (now New York). France has staked out land to the north, in Canada. Official seizures of England, Holland and France alternated with outright piracy. "Gentlemen of Fortune" raged on the seas, established their bases. Convoys and cities of the Spaniards attacked. All this was accompanied by a large-scale slave trade. The colonialists destroyed the Indian population of the Caribbean islands. The Indians were freedom-loving, did not survive in slavery, they died very quickly. I had to bring slaves from Africa. Or "white slaves" from Europe itself: the poor from the "advanced countries", Slavs, Irish, etc. Europeans devastated the coastal regions of Africa, they practically lost their population. Expeditions of slave traders had to go deep into the continent. The slave trade brought fabulous profits to merchants and ship owners. Although the conditions of transportation were terrible: up to half of the "live goods" perished on the way.

But Rome did not give up, did not abandon the projects of the world "Catholic empire". Military operations, for example, of Poland against the Russian kingdom, were supplemented by secret ones. Rome created the first world intelligence service - the Jesuit Order. In Catholic countries, papal legates were attached as advisers to kings and nobles, directing their policies in the direction Rome needed. In Protestant countries, the Jesuit masters of the "cloak and dagger" (and poison) carried out subversive work, conspired, and eliminated the unwanted. In America, Africa and Asia they sent troops of preachers who, along with religion, inspired admiration for the West, Rome. They carried out information and ideological work for further seizures.

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  1. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 30 October 2020 15: 07 New
    +6
    Any more or less literate person understands this. The West understands only strength; it perceives all attempts to reach an agreement as weakness. It is necessary to beat the West, and beat immediately and brutally, so that he lies with broken ribs and cough up blood through his knocked out teeth, only then will he begin to negotiate.
    Andrei Vajra perfectly explains how to communicate with the West
    1. Machito
      Machito 30 October 2020 16: 10 New
      +9
      Since then, nothing has changed: the West continues to plunder the entire world as before. Only now it has taken on other forms. Undesirable countries are bombed and robbed, destroying the local population by the millions. The rest of the countries are in dollar bondage. The trade in beads with the natives for gold was more honest than modern trade. 95% of "printed" dollars, not backed by anything (except for military force), exist only in electronic form. In fact, the United States is paying for the XNUMX-ton tankers with oil digitally written on a computer monitor. All over the world, revolutions, coups, civil wars are being staged to rule other countries in this chaos. Those who do not agree with this are erased from the map by bombing. Countries with resources are being occupied and plundered. On those countries that cannot bomb, they impose sanctions, conduct subversive work within the countries. They use terrorists of all stripes, and then express condolences for the answer.
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 30 October 2020 15: 08 New
    25
    Western prosperity was laid by the slave and drug trade

    And our poverty is engendered by traitors who look into the mouth of the West and drain their interests behind their own skin ..
    As a result, everything is in its place, the west continues to plunder the colonies, and we have become their raw material appendage ..
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 30 October 2020 15: 59 New
      0
      Cold War-style heading for this article.
      By the way, your "our poverty is engendered by traitors who look into the West and drain their interests behind their own skin" can be similarly used for the title of an article or topic ... I have more respect for the eastern culture and eastern paradigms of thinking. In principle, this should not mean belittling other views. Especially in the form of slogans.
      1. Alesi13
        Alesi13 30 October 2020 16: 12 New
        +4
        And sho is it over? Has it started hot?
      2. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 30 October 2020 20: 37 New
        -6
        Rubbish is always more noticeable in someone else's eye. "The basis for the prosperity of the West was laid by the trade in slaves and drugs" - the basis for the prosperity of tsarist Russia was laid by the shameless exploitation of serfs, and the money for the industrialization of the Union of Sevets was received by insolent robbery of the peasants, right up to starvation, in the late 20s and 30s.
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 30 October 2020 23: 08 New
          +4
          Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
          and the money for the industrialization of the Sevets Union was received by impudent robbery of the peasants, up to starvation, in the late 20s - 30s.

          but from now on in more detail ...
          1. Sergey Sfiedu
            Sergey Sfiedu 31 October 2020 21: 45 New
            -1
            Shit? Do you know what? Where did the Soviet leadership get the money for industrialization? What do you think, the bourgeoisie gave us their machines, licenses, specialists for free? Did the crowds of builders at the great construction sites of the first five-year plans feed on the holy spirit?
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 1 November 2020 01: 23 New
              -2
              Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
              Shit? Do you know what?

              to be honest, I am at a loss. the peasantry was the poorest, most powerless and largest group of the population. there was absolutely no place to take money. request
              Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
              Where did the Soviet leadership get the money for industrialization?

              about nationalization and expropriation from the bourgeoisie have not heard anything? not? belay
              Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
              What do you think, the bourgeoisie gave us their machines, licenses, specialists for free?

              what kind? Russian then? well, how free ... through the civil war. otherwise I had to pay request
              so what about the peasants? who was robbed there? are you the landlords chtol in the "peasants" recorded? belay or kulaks - world eaters?
              1. Sergey Sfiedu
                Sergey Sfiedu 1 November 2020 03: 41 New
                0
                Well, read a little on the topic. God knows not what a secret, where Stalin got the money for industrialization. One can argue whether he had any other way out, but the fact remains that collectivization was a means of practically free pumping of agricultural products from the village, which were then exported. So the planes and tanks on which our ancestors defeated fascism are the fruit of the sweat and blood of not only engineers and workers, but also ordinary home-grown collective farmers who give their last to the country, while they themselves were swollen with hunger. Bandera, when they talk about the Holodomor, do not lie too much, more precisely, they lie about the main thing - that the famine was only in Ukraine, and it was almost all over the country. Everyone got it.
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 1 November 2020 15: 35 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
                  collectivization was a means of practically free pumping of agricultural products from the countryside, which were then exported.

                  what??? belay that is, you are so divorced from the topic that you do not know the difference between food appropriation (which, by the way, was invented by Nikolai2, not the Bolsheviks) and collectivization (that is, the unification of small farms into large ones). you do not know, or are you deliberately ignoring why these peasants went exactly with the Bolsheviks, and not with Nicholas and not with the whites, and not even with the Socialist-Revolutionaries, who were the only parties that worked closely with the peasants? or do you think the peasants are stupid?
                  Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
                  Bandera, when they talk about the Holodomor, do not lie too much, more precisely, they lie about the main thing - that the famine was only in Ukraine, and it was almost all over the country. Everyone got it.

                  you have not gone far from Bandera. request
                  just a few facts for reference.
                  1) in 1932-1933 there were no cataclysms or disasters that lead to crop failure. the grain harvest was all right.
                  2) in 1931, the leadership of the Ukrainian SSR knocked out the right not to send grain to the RFSFR in the Politburo in 1932 and 1933.
                  3) in most of the documents describing the famine of 1932-33, it is said that from hunger they swelled up, including the limbs, and went crazy. cases are not isolated. massive. if you don't know what a starving person looks like, look at photos of prisoners in German concentration camps and find completely swollen people there ...
                  4) please provide at least three photos of evidence of mass mortality. commissions from France also traveled to the Ukrainian SSR. should be if it was.
                  based on these historical facts, a very ambiguous picture is formed request and if we add to this the data of the investigating authorities on the scale theft sometimes completely ugly request
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 30 October 2020 18: 00 New
      18
      Vladimir hi,
      "The weak are not only beaten, but also robbed." (FROM)

      The abundance of foreign co-owners of Russian companies is proof of this.
      Dig deeper - there is generally darkness. Up to energy, Vodokanals and housing and communal services.
    3. CSKA
      CSKA 31 October 2020 11: 11 New
      -4
      Quote: Svarog
      And our poverty is engendered by traitors who look into the mouth of the West and drain their interests behind their own skin ..
      As a result, everything is in its place, the west continues to plunder the colonies, and we have become their raw material appendage ..

      Well, who would doubt that in at least one article Svarog would not carry his next nonsense.
  3. TAMBU
    TAMBU 30 October 2020 15: 11 New
    +9
    About
    To the dark beggarly Europe
    ... disagree ...
    it would be "dark", it would not capture anyone ... it was the most advanced in the military and industrial terms part of the world, which existed due to its conquests and struggle with each other ... the most disgusting enterprise (perhaps on a level with slavery) as for me, these were the opium wars ... but what kind of ships were built for this abomination ... you will admire - the best sailing ships in the history of mankind ...
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 October 2020 15: 55 New
      11
      Quote: TAMBU
      it would be "dark", it would not capture anyone ... it was the most advanced part of the world in the military and industrial terms

      Do not forget that Western civilization was built on the wreckage of the Western Roman Empire, while our distant ancestors colonized sparsely populated cold (relative to the west) territories.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 30 October 2020 18: 05 New
        12
        Alexey, you are now encroaching on the "Great Tartary". The adepts will not forgive. laughing
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 30 October 2020 18: 15 New
          +4
          hi
          Quote: lexus
          Alexey, you are now encroaching on the "Great Tartary". The adepts will not forgive.

          Well, it's okay, haloperidol will help them.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 30 October 2020 18: 21 New
            +6
            "Under it" they just fantasize.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 30 October 2020 20: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: lexus
              "Under it" they just fantasize.

              laughing Rather hallucinate .. hi
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 30 October 2020 21: 08 New
                +5
                It doesn't matter whether it is right-handed or left-handed when someone is engaged in masturbation. lol
      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 31 October 2020 10: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Do not forget that Western civilization was built on the wreckage of the Western Roman Empire, while our distant ancestors colonized sparsely populated cold (relative to the west) territories.

        did someone distribute something to someone to colonize? if you wanted to have warmer lands, you had to take them.
  4. Igoresha
    Igoresha 30 October 2020 15: 12 New
    -5
    Well, tell me how Austria / Sweden and so on in drugs traded and from that they live better than spiritual and brave
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 30 October 2020 18: 58 New
      +2
      Well, tell me how Austria / Sweden and so on in drugs traded and from that they live better than spiritual and brave

      Ага. laughing
      Indians, Pashtuns and Negroes have now learned from them.
      Let's wait a little, see how Afghanistan and Colombia rise on mud and coke.fellow
      And Somali pirates on the robbery. wassat
  5. Basil50
    Basil50 30 October 2020 15: 17 New
    11
    Now those who claim to be a * bright face * will run up and will verbally prove who about * advanced technology * who about the incredible * hard work * of Caucasians.
    I've always been amazed that people who seem to have a college education and an incredible ability to quote * the best minds * are wildly telling us outright lies. So they also take offense at those who refuse to believe.
    Today, there are many different shows, including those that explain everything in the world. Abroad, they ceased to be shy and openly talk about their Wishlist both in relation to RUSSIA and to the CITIZENS of RUSSIA. And we, in RUSSIA, have those who continue to vtyuhivat about * abroad will help us *. Maybe it's time to plant and shoot such guardians for other people's interests? AND?
    Maybe it's enough to indulge the scoundrels?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 October 2020 15: 36 New
      +7
      Quote: Vasily50
      Abroad, they ceased to be shy and openly talk about their Wishlist both in relation to RUSSIA and to the CITIZENS of RUSSIA. And we, in RUSSIA, have those who continue to vtyuhivat about * abroad will help us *.

      It's not a problem, there are very few of them. The trouble is that our leaders keep the stolen millions in the west, their children study in the west, raw materials are driven to the west, their own industry has been destroyed to please the west.
      Quote: Vasily50
      Maybe it's enough to indulge the scoundrels?

      good
    2. lucul
      lucul 30 October 2020 15: 46 New
      -4
      Now those who claim to be a * bright face * will run up and will verbally prove who about * advanced technology * who about the incredible * hard work * of Caucasians.

      The basis for the prosperity of the West was laid by loan interest. No colonies and drugs can compare in profitability with the interest rate and come close.
      1. victor50
        victor50 30 October 2020 17: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: lucul
        The basis for the prosperity of the West was laid by loan interest. No colonies and drugs can compare in profitability with the interest rate and come close.

        Advanced science and technology laid the foundation for the prosperity of the West. And how they used the resulting benefits ... In different ways ...
      2. unknown
        unknown 31 October 2020 07: 14 New
        0
        All right.
        The foundation of modern Western civilization was laid by the third estate: usurers and traders.
        Usury is not a godly business.
        Usury rose after the collapse of the previous civilization.
        It happened at the turn of the 18-19 centuries.
        To give usury an acceptable moral character, the religion of Judaism was created.
        A nation began to be created under this religion.
        Completely artificial, nothing in common (no genetics, no territory, no language), except for religion.
        As for the so-called colonial wealth, after the collapse of the British Empire, a very serious audit was ordered, which gave a completely unexpected result.
        The British Empire turned out to be a completely unprofitable enterprise.
        The only product that made a profit was drugs.
        Hence, the famous "tea clippers", speed races. Only instead of tea - drugs.
        The slave trade also did not bring much income.
        Yes, and slaves, in fact, were negligible.
        For example, now in the states, blacks are only 14 percent. And this with that. that for the most part, they do not work, but reproduce like rabbits, and live on benefits, at the expense of whites. And how many were there during the so-called war of the southern and northern states? An insignificant amount.
        1. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 31 October 2020 13: 03 New
          +3
          It happened at the turn of the 18-19 centuries.
          To give usury an acceptable moral character, the religion of Judaism was created.
          A nation began to be created under this religion.
          Completely artificial, nothing in common (no genetics, no territory, no language), except for religion.

          Oh yo! ... belay It turns out that Jews did not exist until the 18th and 19th centuries! And Judaism too! Yes, my friend, to put it mildly, the second Nosovsky and Fomenko! fool
          1. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 31 October 2020 19: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
            Oh-yo! ... Until the 18th-19th centuries, it turns out, Jews did not exist! And Judaism too! Yes, my friend, to put it mildly, the second Nosovsky and Fomenko!

            He's right. The Jews were invented by Churchill in 18
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 30 October 2020 17: 34 New
      +8
      ..... make outright lies .....
      I talked with relatives, whose youth, growing up - in the 70s and then. It turns out, then, people began to talk among themselves that they live better in Europe and the United States than in the USSR. Somewhere in the 80s-85s, there were even more such conversations. But, according to relatives, there was no explanation either about the $$$, or about the scale of colonization and plunder. ... And the relatives all studied, they were activists, Komsomol members, a Komsomol organizer, a political informer ..... Participated in meetings, city rallies ..... Somehow it was not said about what was bad in the West ..... it was said more about the shortcomings in the USSR in production .... it turns out that there was no necessary information coverage, or what? Or is it a long-term result of Khrushchev, his actions?
      Yes, the nomenklatura immediately after Stalin's death began to try to come to power for itself. Very cunning actions.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 30 October 2020 18: 08 New
        12
        Dmitriy hi,
        the praise of private property with the kick of public property is always preached in favor of individual personal purses. Now we are convinced of this with our own eyes.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 30 October 2020 18: 41 New
          +4
          Good evening, Alexey! The fact is that I have repeatedly and in detail asked. It turns out that they went to meetings, they were told about speculators, currency dealers, farts, about those who do the hack at home, then at work about discipline, plan, thugs, postscripts ... They told them at meetings that this should be stopped .......
          .But about the reasons for a good life in the West, ----- nothing. About the advantages of private property was not, specifically.
          And at the same time, it turns out, the nomenclature made a decision. And already Yakovlev, the foreman, and the marked specifically made decisions
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 30 October 2020 18: 52 New
            +6
            The "Great Equalizer" was left in mournful solitude.

      2. Basil50
        Basil50 30 October 2020 20: 51 New
        +1
        reptiloid
        When the conspirators killed JOSEPH VISSARIONOVICH STALIN and staged a military coup, they immediately became concerned about their own well-being and safety. All party leaders were immediately declared without any responsibility. Then the KGB became an organ * under the Council of Ministers *. Thus, all the power of the KGB was spent on ensuring the safety of those in power and their families.
        It was Andropov who brought traitors to power, there were many of them, and not just Gorbachev or Yeltsin (one story with Kalugin is worth something). In the same sequence is the * loss * of the gold reserve of the SOVIET UNION.
        In the 70s, they began to paint the charms of Europe with America. Especially many films began to appear with huge houses in the property and with two or three cars in the garage. So the work was carried out systematically and very hard. The unwanted were destroyed by an accidental accident, a sudden illness or arrest.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 30 October 2020 21: 24 New
          0
          Vasily 50.
          Quote: Vasily50
          ..... In the 70s, they began to paint the charms of Europe with America. Especially many films began to appear with huge houses in the property and with two or three cars in the garage. So the work was carried out systematically and very hard. The unwanted were destroyed by an accidental accident, a sudden illness or arrest.
          Somehow I haven't heard about the appearance of films, but I know stories about the appearance of the so-called festival films. In Leningrad, we stood in long queues in advance to buy a ticket there. Probably, these were the same films? And there was also a so-called cinema club in Leningrad. It was there, probably, that they admired all sorts of things, there, as I heard, it was difficult to fit in.
          In general, there were, as they now call them, warning films. They are on the net. Don't know how people treated them?
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 31 October 2020 18: 43 New
            +1
            Dmitry, so-called. "festival films" were. At the 1979 Moscow Film Festival, I watched one of these. The usual dullness, nothing special. In 1976 in the winter I was with friends at the week of French cinema. I watched the film "Pistol Python No. ..." Also not God knows what, gray criminal detective. Maybe I don’t understand anything in cinema (in particular, I am indifferent to Fellini, Antonioni ...), but I had something to do at that time, and preferred domestic films, although they also had a lot of rubbish. The foreigners made an impression of "The horses are being driven away" (USA) and "The investigation is over, forget it" (Italy).
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 31 October 2020 21: 05 New
              +1
              I already forgot, Sergey hi , what names did I hear, but I know that people were terribly interested --- how was it there?
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 31 October 2020 21: 48 New
                +2
                It was interesting, of course, how it was with them, but the films, as a rule, followed the same cliches: a lone hero against the system. This was, in particular, the good-quality French film "The Secret of the Farm Messe" with Jean Gabin in the title role. This is the beginning of the 70s. Actually, there was a solid adventure entertainment there, a three-part Fantômas, for example (this is the 60s), there are different "Razinya" and "Air Adventures" (also the 60s), the ironic Franco-Italian film "Law is Law" with Fernandel in the lead role (this is the 50s, we showed it at the very beginning of the 60s). Good artists pulled out straightforward stories. By the way, I once compared the play of the French comedian of the 50s Fernandel with the play of the comedian of the 70s Pierre Richard and was amazed at the wretchedness of Richard. Degradation was already there. And I wrote about serious films above.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 31 October 2020 22: 15 New
                  +1
                  I also watched some films with Jean Gabin about the farm. Yes, a loner against everyone. And more recently I looked OPEN, POLICE. France. There were also some French ones.
                  Are there several films about Fernandel?
                  In general, it would be necessary to look at our past better now in order to somehow understand that life. I know that our warning films appeared then. Did you just watch them? This is what we now, from the point of view of the post-knowledge, call it --- warnings, but how did we say it then? Interesting
                  1. Aviator_
                    Aviator_ 31 October 2020 22: 31 New
                    +2
                    Dmitry, now some of the phenomena that arose during the filming of films in the early 70s are emerging. There was such a film - "Hello and Goodbye" (1972), a good film, starring Lyudmila Zaitseva, Oleg Efremov, Mikhail Kononov and other good actors. Filmed in the village, filmed for a long time, the film crew became their own in the village, and the men often and for a long time argued with Efremov about exposing the personality cult. The peasants were in an anti-Khrushchev attitude, only Efremov, a creative activist, six-year-old, bruised on his head by the XX Congress, tried to campaign for Khrushchev the maize. Personally, there was an episode with me - when in 1969 the film "Ambassador of the Soviet Union" with Yulia Borisova in the title role was released, at the end of the film the Victory Parade with Stalin on the podium was shown. And the audience burst into applause, so Khrushchev's lies were bored.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 31 October 2020 22: 44 New
                      +1
                      I haven't watched these films. And, recently, I saw a cartoon, somehow ---- THE HARE THAT LIKED TO GIVE ADVICE, or, THE BUNNY THAT TEACHED EVERYONE. And another cartoon, similar in performance ... ... Caring people tried to attract attention as best they could
                      1. Aviator_
                        Aviator_ 1 November 2020 11: 41 New
                        +1
                        The film "Ambassador of the Soviet Union" about ours after in Sweden during the war, A.M. Kolontai. Don't be lazy, look.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 1 November 2020 13: 11 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        The film "Ambassador of the Soviet Union" about ours after in Sweden during the war, A.M. Kolontai. Don't be lazy, look.
                        Required. hi only I am slowly implementing my plans. For example, a very good article about Stalin recently. I want to read something new, when it's calm, nothing distracts ...
                        It is interesting that now there are three articles on VO that are related, in my understanding: this, yesterday's in ANALYTICS, Fedorova, and still today, Roman Skomorokhov.
                      3. Aviator_
                        Aviator_ 1 November 2020 13: 23 New
                        0
                        I'll look at Fedorov's case, it's good that he gave the link. And Skomorokhov just catches current trends and tries to be noted in them. I have no objections to this article (perhaps because it was written by him in co-authorship), and usually, especially technical articles cause a lot of objections, but I'm already tired of trying to dissuade him in any technical way, does not accept it.
  • Tugarin
    Tugarin 30 October 2020 15: 27 New
    22
    Western prosperity was laid by the slave and drug trade

    We know that. And "partners" need to constantly poke their faces into this fact.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 30 October 2020 18: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Tugarin
      Western prosperity was laid by the slave and drug trade

      We know that. And "partners" need to constantly poke their faces into this fact.
      yes not only partners, but here in Russia to repeat, so that everyone would know specifically.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 30 October 2020 18: 57 New
        +8
        Today, trial casts of "tatupeds" about the introduction of ranks in pension provision - tomorrow a bite of estates and serfdom. Hello deevolution! recourse
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 30 October 2020 19: 13 New
          +4
          ...... introduction of ranks in pension ......
          and now, like chinoanikrv differently? I have not followed in detail request And remember how taxes were taken before the revolution? The noble classes did not pay them. And other differences were to the benefit of the
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 30 October 2020 19: 16 New
            +8
            We are going to that. All forward, we alone back. recourse
        2. Bez 310
          Bez 310 30 October 2020 19: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: lexus
          tomorrow a bite of estates and serfdom

          "New nobles" - so the former head of the FSB Nikolai Patrushev
          I spoke more than once about myself and my colleagues.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 30 October 2020 19: 28 New
            +8
            "Such friends - for hell to the museum." (FROM)
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 30 October 2020 20: 38 New
              +3
              However, these new nobles will still not be accepted in the west. Since even when Christine Laggard spoke about the withdrawal of young money, which concerned the post-Soviet space. This nomenclature was respected in the west when they represented the USSR - a powerful state.
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 30 October 2020 23: 52 New
                +4
                It must be admitted that in the West the attitude towards illegally acquired capital and corruption, in particular, is orders of magnitude tougher than in Russia. Having accepted for permanent residence our swindlers and thieves, embezzlers and bribe-takers, the countries of "decaying capitalism" will find themselves in a stalemate when they can no longer clearly establish the line between "bad" and "good" for their subjects. As a result, it will become much more difficult to motivate them to continue to be law-abiding. No one in their right mind will undermine their own statehood and under the weight of the consequences. Let it be with a grain of irony, but it is obvious that in those parts of the world the universal equality of CITIZENS before the Law is realized at a level unattainable for us. One of the few more or less legal loopholes for civil servants to significantly improve their financial situation is lobbying for defense contracts. But ... Putin and his entourage are listed there as enemies. With ingratiating people it is always the same. They, of course, will shelter some of our traitors, but not all. This is the essence of the ongoing bargaining. Even our entire country, thrown to the slaughter of enemies, does not guarantee the Jews of avoiding just (not thanks to us) retribution. You can classify your profits from us, but not from the world financial intelligence services and, accordingly, from taxpayers, on whose funds they are supported. It is not customary for them to drive bullshit to voters with impunity. Publicity is an insurmountable obstacle. No one will feel sorry for our wealthy satraps on a par with the rogue refugees there. Therefore, “ours” are shaking, pleasing in everything. Only that won't help. You can't do without sacrificial rams. Every inhabitant of a weak country is potentially him. And you are right, the USSR, unlike Russia, was a really strong country. For this they respected and were wary of touching his citizens. And if they touched, then very soon they regretted it.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 31 October 2020 00: 05 New
                  +3
                  Having robbed their country and their people, the dwarf freaks think that if they draw pieces of paper with the nobility, then in the west they will be considered the Russian aristocracy. However, everything will be reversed. lol
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 31 October 2020 00: 16 New
                    +4
                    Dmitry, there are thimblers in the twentieth generation, and ours only in the first or second. "With a pork snout in a Kalashny row" (C), you just can't go. Uncontrolled "random number generator" - epic fail for crooks! Even the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, by hook or by crook, created their empires, and did not come to the ready-made. Therefore, rats will never be safe in a flock of hyenas. That's why they shake. Not without reason, however. According to "merit" they will inevitably be rewarded. Anyway. Absolutely.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 31 October 2020 00: 34 New
                      +1
                      In our country, people who were close to the rulers from nowhere came to the top. It is different in the west.
                      Capitals, as services to the authorities, have been collected and grown for more than one hundred years. The dwarfs don't understand this. Well, they don't understand! True, one Russian recently entered the elite, literally from the back. And he became a lord.
                      1. Lexus
                        Lexus 31 October 2020 00: 46 New
                        +3
                        An exception that will not become the rule.
              2. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 31 October 2020 21: 50 New
                +1
                However, these new nobles will still not be accepted in the west.

                This is little consolation for us - the stolen money will still remain in the West.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 31 October 2020 22: 25 New
                  +1
                  Of course, Sergei, this is no consolation for us or the country at all. It just confirms that the domestic elite is not an elite at all. So-so.
                  How did one deputy say when he wanted expensive cars for the state account? "They made themselves" He seemed to call himself the color of the nation. And another said ---- that the party zhahnul all And yet another said that whoever has a small pension is alcoholics and parasites. So everyone has almost a small pension. Only they themselves have a large one.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 October 2020 15: 30 New
    12
    At a meeting with the head of VTB Kostin, the president said: "We are now having hard times." Kostin did not understand at all why he was having difficult times, but out of politeness he agreed.
    1. Clear
      Clear 30 October 2020 18: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: vladimirvn
      At a meeting with the head of VTB Kostin, the president said: "We are now having hard times." Kostin did not understand at all why he was having difficult times, but out of politeness he agreed.

      If he didn’t agree, then for him, it would really be difficult.
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 30 October 2020 15: 35 New
    +3
    To read the author, so the Europeans did nothing, only lay on the stove between the robberies of the unfortunate Indians - they did not build, did not produce, did not invent anything.
    1. Alesi13
      Alesi13 30 October 2020 16: 16 New
      +2
      Oga, they didn't build ocean ships, they didn't come up with firearms, and in general
      1. Alesi13
        Alesi13 30 October 2020 16: 17 New
        -2
        Well, the firearms were not brought to the modern level, they were not invented
    2. Clear
      Clear 30 October 2020 18: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Deniska999
      To read the author, so the Europeans did nothing, only lay on the stove between the robberies of the unfortunate Indians - they did not build, did not produce, did not invent anything.

      In your opinion, after the robbery it is already impossible to lie down winked winked
    3. Motorist
      Motorist 30 October 2020 23: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Deniska999
      To read the author, so the Europeans did nothing, only lay on the stove between the robberies of the unfortunate Indians

      The Europeans got ahead of the [blacks] a bit because of the colder climate (more effort was required to get food). For the Indians: they did not expect the "coming" at all; one can only guess what kind of civilization would have developed there, if not for beads, fire water and blankets.
  • maktub
    maktub 30 October 2020 15: 38 New
    -7
    Vague doubts gnaw at me
    The conquest of Siberia, Central Asia, the Far East, etc., is that if not the conquest of colonies?
    Remind me, please, until what year in Mother Russia "little serfs" were traded and until what year people did not know about the abolition of "serfdom". In the West, at least they traded in strangers, not their own.
    Is it necessary to remind about the soldering of "indigenous peoples" in Siberia and the Far East?
    Such articles in the style of "in someone else's eye" always touch me laughing
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 15: 38 New
    +5
    Switzerland did not trade in slaves, drugs, did not have a fleet, and therefore no colonies. True, the Swiss spread around the world like cockroaches, but this is according to the principle, the fish seeks where deeper, and the person where better. And they do not live badly, on banking, watches, dairy products and chocolate. The Italians did not seize the Mediterranean. The Ottoman Empire seized the Mediterranean and closed the trade between the West and the East. At the same time. Pirates of the Ottoman Empire raged in the Mediterranean for several centuries. Therefore, they thought, the Portuguese primarily seek other trade routes.
    In fact, the ancient Europeans already knew about the existence of these worlds-civilizations.
    ... And who are the ancient Europeans? Phoenicians? The Greek Pytheas, who swam as to Scandinavia, but even in his time they did not believe him .. Much can be argued .. Article, half-truth .. well-so today is Friday, the day of historical obscurantism this week .. laughing
    1. maktub
      maktub 30 October 2020 15: 47 New
      +1
      "Friday is the day of historical obscurantism". This is strong !!! laughing
    2. Basil50
      Basil50 30 October 2020 15: 47 New
      +3
      Directly the same example as one's own ignorance can be elevated into a kind of * fetish of doubt *.
      Switzerland, except as exemplary stupid mercenaries and doormen, did not produce anything. But WWI happened and the Germans began to hide their factories and their skilled workers in Switzerland. Then * happened * WWII and the Germans, in addition to precision engineering, began to hide gold in Switzerland, which they plundered, including in concentration camps. The last workshop for melting dentures and separating gold from alloys in Switzerland was closed in 1975.
      That Sweden, that Switzerland hammered their welfare on the service of the Germans in WWI and WWII, which is not hidden there.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 15: 51 New
        +9
        During WWI and WWII, Switzerland increased its well-being ... By the way, even now it does not live in poverty, you think it supports world terrorism .. smile
    3. Essex62
      Essex62 30 October 2020 15: 51 New
      +2
      Switzerland, dear Daniel, is a "small village" if it is a large-scale approach. Adapters, the only purpose of this "country" is what you please and "we are always neutral."
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 15: 57 New
        +2
        It is logical ... the colonies were not captured, they did not trade in drugs and slaves ... The strong Swiss guys, so as not to be an extra mouth, went to serve in the armies of European states, to gain military experience ... A well-known Russian Swiss, an associate of Peter I, Lefort ... Ah, yes, they were also colonialists .. when Catherine II "whistled" the Germans to develop Russian lands, they also reached out ..
      2. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 30 October 2020 18: 02 New
        -1
        the only purpose of this "country" is what you please and "we are always neutral."

        At least twice, the history of Europe was changed by purely military methods. And once - ideologically.
        So the Habsburgs would not agree with you. Karl the Bold even more so.
        Well, what then came to neutrality and managed to keep it - does them credit. The Belgians have tried too ..
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 30 October 2020 18: 41 New
          0
          And yours and ours ... Somehow it doesn't look very curvy, as the hero of Sergei Bondarchuk used to say. (They fought for the Motherland!). Especially against the backdrop of the atrocities of the Nazis in the 40s.
          The examples you have given refer to the period of the absence of a real German state. The history of part of Europe. About ideologically did not catch what you mean?
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 31 October 2020 11: 06 New
            +1
            You somehow underestimate the consequences of the Battle of Nancy: Burgundy, which had every chance of becoming a powerful independent kingdom, simply disappeared. Thus, the main obstacle to the unification of France, a key Western European continental power until the 19th century, disappeared. The centuries-old struggle between the French and the Habsburgs began (where the Swiss also played a key role.
            The Battle of Morgarten, not to mention its military significance, significantly influenced the fate of the Holy Roman Empire of the German nation (why you refuse to consider this formation as a real state - I do not understand).
            Well, ideologically ... so where did John Calvin and Zwingli begin to put their ideas into practice?
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 2 November 2020 23: 42 New
              0
              With the fact that the Swiss mercenaries are fair fighters of that time, I do not even argue. And they contributed their shed blood, their own and those of their enemies, in the establishment of absolutism in France. But again, this is from the "what you please".
              Somehow I did not immediately think of Calvinism, the forerunner of Marxism. Soul mates, almost Bolsheviks laughing
    4. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 October 2020 16: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Article, half-truth .. well-so today is Friday, the day of historical obscurantism this week ..

      Looking forward to Bibik-Fomenko-Nosovsky? And then it's kind of boring.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 16: 05 New
        +1
        Shcha run ... we learn a lot of interesting ... about how the Russo-Scythians discovered America, the papists stole their maps, and went on a journey to America .. smile
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 30 October 2020 16: 13 New
          +5
          Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
          Shcha run ... we learn a lot of interesting ... about how the Russo-Scythians discovered America, the papists stole their maps, and went on a journey to America ..

          I listened to Klim Zhukov today about the new chronology, I haven't laughed like that for a long time.
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 16: 14 New
            +3
            I saw this video ... well done Klim burns .. smile
    5. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 30 October 2020 23: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Switzerland, slaves, drugs did not trade, had no fleet, and therefore no colonies.

      in general, in the Middle Ages, the Swiss are the best infantry, and plunder is their bread. and so they plundered until their German landsknechts were massacred and for a long time Switzerland disappeared in European politics.
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      And they do not live badly, on banking, watches, dairy products and chocolate.
      it is yes! yes as a "neutral" channel for the sale of loot by the Nazis in the EU has risen well! good or do you seriously believe that on the clock and knives? wassat
    6. bk0010
      bk0010 31 October 2020 21: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Switzerland did not trade in slaves, drugs, did not have a fleet, and therefore no colonies ... And they do not live badly, on banking, watches, dairy products and chocolate.
      You have a very strange idea of ​​the source of Swiss prosperity. In the Middle Ages, the territories of Switzerland were naturally poor, and in modern times they began to earn money with the help of mercenaries. The mercenary Swiss infantry was extremely brutal and frostbitten, and left a very bloody trail in Europe. The Swiss were not taken prisoner (hence, by the way, the legendary loyalty of the Swiss mercenaries - their opponents did not outbid them, only destroyed).
  • Darkesstcat
    Darkesstcat 30 October 2020 15: 58 New
    -2
    I do not see anything terrible, all peoples hunted in war / slave trade.
    1. RoTTor
      RoTTor 30 October 2020 16: 57 New
      +4
      among the Crimean Tatars, the slave trade was the basis of the economy of the Crimean Khanate.
      Once an authoritative Ukrainian. newspaper published by Amer. money, wrote an article that the Crimean Tatars and the Turks themselves were driven into slavery and sold to Turkey from so many slaves from the territory of present-day Ukraine that, due to the fact that women were sold to harems and brothels, almost the entire Turkish elite has Ukrainian roots.
      Did this benefit the development of the Crimean Khanate and the Ottoman Empire?
  • Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 30 October 2020 16: 17 New
    +2
    The basis of modern material well-being of Western civilization was laid by open robbery, slave trade and drug trade.

    Of course. This is called competition and struggle for survival. There is nothing unique for Western civilization here - the same slave trade is the oldest business of mankind. Did the Muslim civilization reject the slave trade? Or maybe there was no slave trade in India? The Mongols? In the states of South and Central America?
    Uniquely different, the Western civilization suddenly invested the funds received in ..
    creation of modern industrial production.

    That is why it provided the Europeans with a leading position in the world in science, industry and military affairs.
    Yes, by the way, the world slave trade as a legal phenomenon and business was suddenly curtailed and banned just by Western European countries: Negro princes would gladly continue to trade with their fellow tribesmen, and Islamic states are not averse to these practices even now, and they are returning already.
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 30 October 2020 16: 24 New
      +1
      By the way, the world slave trade as a legal phenomenon and business was suddenly curtailed and banned just by Western European countries.
      It's not about the kings, slavery began to interfere with the industrial revolution ... that's what they banned ..
      1. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 30 October 2020 17: 36 New
        0
        Slavery and the slave trade did not interfere with the industrial revolution in any way, just in the paradigm of the socio-economic relations that had developed by the 19th century in Western European countries (yes, associated with the industrial revolution and the subsequent industrialization), it became ineffective.
        Then it was quite rational and was banned, however, the restrictions began much earlier.
        Only here it is important to build a logical chain - do not the Europeans make an industrial revolution, do not create a corpus of legal and social principles on which, in principle, the entire modern society rests - without problems they would be engaged in the slave trade now (and they are doing it, as Europe weakened).
        R.S. And yes, the use of forced labor in the framework of industrial production is not a particular problem - the totalitarian regimes of the 20th century have demonstrated this.
    2. Alf
      Alf 30 October 2020 18: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Ryazanets87
      the world slave trade as a legal phenomenon and business was suddenly curtailed and banned just by the Western European countries:

      WORK TRADE but not WORK OWNERSHIP.
      1. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 30 October 2020 18: 26 New
        0
        Great Britain banned the slave trade in 1807 (Abolition of the Slave Trade Act), outlawing the slave trade in the colonies, in 1833 the liberation of slaves in the colonies was carried out (about 760 thousand slaves were freed), the final official ban on slavery in 1838. The French back in 18th century (Napoleon, however, restored), so the colonies were banned only in 1848. Netherlands in 1814.
  • dzvero
    dzvero 30 October 2020 16: 21 New
    +5
    For the sake of truth, whites in Africa rarely personally chased slaves - they gave this privilege to local kings, and they bought ready-made "goods" from them.
    But in general - yes, if we imagine that every brick in the centers of the old capitals of the West is one human life ...
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 30 October 2020 16: 51 New
      -1
      So, after all, our bandyuk princes did not lag behind. Having seized the Russian city, the Russians took its inhabitants into slavery. And then it was completely dark. Serfdom for centuries, akin to Nazism.
    2. RoTTor
      RoTTor 30 October 2020 16: 52 New
      +1
      The natives were always hired without any problems as policemen, punishers, registered Cossacks ...
    3. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 30 October 2020 17: 52 New
      0
      Yes, the only alternative is ruthless robbery and exploitation of its own population. Why serfdom originated? a very poor country with open borders and hostile neighbors. How to form a large army? There is nothing more to distribute land for service. But people are needed to the earth, otherwise it is useless. Again, it is easier for the state to pay tribute and the bureaucratic apparatus of the grassroots (the most numerous) does not need to be maintained. This is not Nazism, of course, but elementary poverty and impossibility of mass exploitation of other peoples. Whenever possible, however, they immediately laid yasak on strangers.
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 30 October 2020 16: 51 New
    +1
    So this is why post-Maidan Ukraine, where the basis of economic development will be drug trafficking, gambling and prostitution,
    so attracted to Europianism that this bad nonsense was already written into the constitution.
    However, no one knows the constitution, will not know, and is not going to implement it.
    Standing in front of her "on the naughty" KSU-sample of corruption.
    Nobody intends to accept this either in the rotten stillborn EU and outdated NATO.
    "To promise is not to marry!"
    "Obitsyanka - tsyatsyanka - foolish joy" - Ukrainian folk wisdom
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 October 2020 17: 06 New
    0
    it all started with the robbery of Byzantium
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 30 October 2020 23: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      it all started with the robbery of Byzantium

      and from Byzantium, where did it come from that it was robbed? all toil, toil? wassat
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 31 October 2020 09: 07 New
        0
        Quote: SanichSan
        and from Byzantium, where did it come from that it was robbed? all toil, toil?

        then - ALL THIEFS
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 1 November 2020 01: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          then - ALL THIEFS

          not, rather bandits. there is still robbery and violence in extreme forms wink
  • NF68
    NF68 30 October 2020 17: 15 New
    +1
    It has not changed much now. This is most clearly demonstrated by the United States. Only they learned to wrap all this in beautiful candy wrappers.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 30 October 2020 17: 22 New
    +3
    But in Russia, they were not taken prisoner, and there were no slaves. They have already fucked up.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 30 October 2020 18: 06 New
    +4
    Protestants, the "chosen ones" did not consider many of the Europeans, for example, the Slavs and Irish, to be full-fledged people.
    .... In Marseille, a city in France, there was a slave market for a long time, there was an agreement between Russia and France, according to which France would redeem the Russians, and Russia would compensate for the costs. But France was a Catholic state. Louis XIV canceled the Edict of Nantes, which equalized in the rights of Catholics and Huguenots, the Catholic became the official religion. The French Huguenots began to spread throughout the world and to America as well. They were not considered elected in their homeland.
  • eklmn
    eklmn 30 October 2020 19: 07 New
    0
    This opus is a cursory course in the history of Europe and the world for the 5th grade, written by the Politburo and signed to the leadership of Comrade Stalin ...
  • Undecim
    Undecim 30 October 2020 20: 23 New
    +3
    Another portion of delirium and obscurantism, consolation for the poor and the mind of the mournful.
  • iouris
    iouris 30 October 2020 20: 30 New
    +1
    You had to know how to trade slaves - technology! But now the slaves are no longer needed. Now we need to develop technologies for their efficient disposal.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 30 October 2020 21: 01 New
    +3
    In the west, blacks are slaves.
    In the south, Negroes are slaves to the Arabs.
    In the east, the disenfranchised peasants of the samurai
    In the center is the trade of slaves and serfs ...

    Toto a lot of people flooded to serve in Russia. Thrive on local slaves ....
    1. iouris
      iouris 30 October 2020 21: 59 New
      +1
      We are not slaves. We are not slaves. We are "superfluous people". "They" think how best (for "them") to get rid of us.
      1. Aleks2000
        Aleks2000 31 October 2020 00: 18 New
        0
        This is modernity. 30 + million for Chubais, 15 for Sobyanin, 25 for some kind of lady ...

        But here is something about history ... Why is it that no one here blames the Turks for the trade of Negroes, Slavs, Russians? And the Iranians with the Syrians? Armenians with Azerbaijanis? and the Greeks too?
        1. iouris
          iouris 1 November 2020 14: 17 New
          +1
          There is no point in "reproaching": this is history. We must "concentrate" in order to inflict a stopping blow on Turkey, otherwise they will sell us on the market in Kaffa.
          Note: Kaffa is a Genoese fortress in the city of Feodosia (Crimea).
          By the way, Italians, British, Spaniards, French, Dutch, Belgians (did you forget anyone?). all are former slave traders.
          1. Aleks2000
            Aleks2000 1 November 2020 15: 24 New
            +1
            Forgotten, forgotten.
            Read 1000 and one night. - there are also negro slaves.
            Somewhere earlier there was an article where it was argued that Muslims turned blacks into slavery more than Europeans.

            And I also remember that there were Russians, and not only slaves. Who are also like slaves. And they were also traded. Only they do not write about it modestly, occasionally some reports about slaves sold by the Doryans and exported to the south by merchants, about Oholopiev Yakuts and others ...
  • WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 30 October 2020 21: 54 New
    +1
    The article is a primitive agitation.
    Neither causes, nor effects, nor driving forces, nothing are considered ...
    The author for any - "minus".
    The editorial board of VO admitting such, if you may say "creations" in general - "not".
    Such becoming is another stone in the heavy burden of stupidity and lack of professionalism, which pulls VO to the very bottom of social and political journalism.
    It's a pity.
    I think so.
  • Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 30 October 2020 22: 59 New
    0
    recourse
    Earlier, I read this saying: "We will conquer the world with a kind word (sermon), sword and coin (trade). I don’t remember the author of this saying, perhaps it belongs to the Arabs or the Europeans.
    Eastern civilizations did the same. The civilizations of the American continents developed through the conquest of neighboring tribes and state institutions. "Long-suffering China" has developed in the same way since the time of Shi Huang.
    So "social Darwinism" is there ...
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 31 October 2020 02: 44 New
    0
    Naturally, the Western world rose on the slave trade and drugs ..., but for some reason the author does not mention Russia - the main subject of trade is slaves ..., look at yourself ...
  • Revolver
    Revolver 31 October 2020 03: 26 New
    -1
    In the east, mighty Russia rose, it was not possible to enslave it.

    Russia lay under the Horde, and the appanage princes diligently reported to the Horde against each other, and on occasion provided military assistance to the Horde against their neighbors in order to get the opportunity to plunder.
    The Spaniards reached America and destroyed the local old civilizations.
    The Spaniards saved these, if I may say so, "civilizations" from self-destruction. The Mesoamerican city-states were constantly at war with each other, and the vanquished, to the last, were sacrificed to the local gods. And this happened because due to the next climate change, the humidity dropped sharply, and with it the yield of their main food product - corn, and the aborigines hoped to buy rain as victims. Precisely to get victims and start wars.
    And in Africa, the slave trade was already in full bloom before the arrival of the Europeans, and the Arabs organized it. The tribes went to war with their neighbors to capture prisoners, and sold them into slavery for knives, axes, and beads. And this was progress, because before the arrival of the slave traders, prisoners were simply eaten. Those slaves who were bought by whites were more fortunate than those who went to the Arabs, because the Arabs castrated slaves. Do you think why there are African Americans, but there are no African Saudis, Iraqis, Syrians, although the Arabs began the slave trade centuries earlier than the Europeans, and finished decades later?
    And in general, the question arises, why did the highly cultured, developed, strong civilizations of Africa, Asia, and America not throw the barbarian aliens back into the sea?
  • unknown
    unknown 31 October 2020 07: 26 New
    +2
    All right.
    The foundation of modern Western civilization was laid by the third estate: usurers and traders.
    Usury is not a godly business.
    Usury rose after the collapse of the previous civilization.
    It happened at the turn of the 18-19 centuries.
    To give usury an acceptable moral character, a religion was created - Judaism.
    A nation began to be created under this religion. Grown out of the class.
    Completely artificial, nothing in common (no genetics, no territory, no language), except for religion.
    In fact, this is not a people, but a sect - an estate.
    But, in the future, it played a negative role in the fate of this new "nation".
    The negative attitude towards usurers began to be transferred to all "Jews".
    In the last century, "Jews" were destroyed physically. Moreover, the Poles succeeded more than the Germans, who destroyed the "Jews" before the Germans, together with the Nazis, and after the Nazis.
    I write "Jews" because the word "Jew" in ancient languages ​​is pronounced and has a close meaning with the word "Aryan". The meaning is the same - "man".
    "Europe" is a country, from the word "side", "Jews", that is, people. The words "Jew" and "European" are just a short and long version of the pronunciation of one meaningful word - "man".
    Yes, and the word "Jew" is just "ideological".
    As for the so-called colonial wealth, after the collapse of the British Empire, a very serious audit was ordered, which gave a completely unexpected result.
    The British Empire turned out to be a completely unprofitable enterprise.
    The only product that made a profit was drugs.
    Hence, the famous "tea clippers", speed races. Only instead of tea - drugs.
    The slave trade also did not bring much income.
    Yes, and slaves, in fact, were negligible.
    For example, now in the states, blacks are only 14 percent. And this despite the fact that for the most part, they do not work, but reproduce like rabbits, and live on benefits, at the expense of whites. And how many were there during the so-called war of the southern and northern states? An insignificant amount.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 31 October 2020 10: 59 New
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    To plunder, plunder and oppress this model has spread beyond the Western world. You just need to throw patriotic braces to the people.
  • Typhoon_W
    Typhoon_W 3 November 2020 10: 18 New
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    well, who gorged himself from the robbery so it's the Spaniards, they also had hyperinflation happened from the exported gold
  • Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 6 November 2020 13: 12 New
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    Western initial accumulation of capital was not only formed from the trade in slaves and drugs - from the colonies they dragged everything that could be taken away and what could not, too. The main goal of the Great Geographical Discoveries was to find places for robbery and robbery.