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"This is a war crime": in Yerevan they spoke about the shelling of Stepanakert, Azerbaijan showed strikes on enemy positions

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The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan is releasing personnel with the next stage of the military operation in the zone of the armed conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.


According to the Azeri side, the blow was struck at the enemy positions, "from which rocket attacks on the territory of Azerbaijan were carried out."

The footage shows that the Azerbaijani troops are striking at the enemy's manpower. Shooting of strikes is again carried out from the air - from a drone.


From the message of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

Units of the Azerbaijani army defeated the forces and means of the enemy, who fired at our cities and regions, and grossly violated the humanitarian ceasefire.


Some shots show that the positions of the Armenian troops are sometimes equipped so that not only military equipment and weapons are actually in the open, but also ammunition. In this "alignment", the Azerbaijani artillerymen do not have to bother with adjusting the fire - almost any hit can be guaranteed to lead to the destruction of positions, especially when it comes to hitting the ammunition or ammunition boxes, just lying on the ground.

Meanwhile, the Armenian side demonstrates the results of the shelling that was carried out by the Azerbaijani troops against the capital of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic - Stepanakert.


The shelling of the second largest city of Artsakh, Shushi, was also announced.

It is noted in the Republic of Artsakh that residential areas of cities were shelled, which led to casualties among the civilian population.


In Yerevan, these attacks were called a war crime committed by Azerbaijani troops and the country's political leadership.
Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of the NKR, Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan
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  1. Lexus
    Lexus 28 October 2020 19: 00
    26
    Like a dash. In perfect conditions.
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 28 October 2020 19: 07
      +6
      Numerous data indicate that over a month of fighting, the military potential of the army of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic was, if not undermined, then very much depleted. At the same time, the Azerbaijani army retains its combat potential, continues to advance and gradually moves deep into Karabakh. The losses of the NKR army are very great. The NKR Ministry of Defense does not disclose exact data, but according to Russian military analytical sources, the ANKR lost more than 6000 killed and wounded in a month of fighting, which is more than 30% of its pre-war number. At least 110 tanks were lost - almost 40% of the total number, at least 12 MLRS - 30%, about 100 guns and mortars - more than 25%, at least 6 "Osa" air defense systems -60%. More than 100 large warehouses of ammunition, fuels and lubricants and weapons were destroyed.
      ... To date, more than half of the Azerbaijani regions previously held by the NKR have passed under the control of the Azerbaijani army. Yesterday the Armenian Defense Ministry had to admit the loss of the next regional center - the city of Gubatly. And this means that the Azerbaijani army almost point-blank approached the so-called "Lachin corridor" - a strategic road connecting Stepanakert with Armenian Goris, the main route connecting the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia. If the Turkish-dependent people manage to cut this route, the situation in NKR will become catastrophic. The republic will be completely isolated and surrounded.
      1. MTN
        MTN 28 October 2020 19: 30
        -9
        Quote: fn34440
        To date, more than half of the Azerbaijani regions previously held by the NKR have passed under the control of the Azerbaijani army.

        This is yesterday's data on losses of Armenians + today's data and equipment and composition - minus in monetary terms the loss is higher than the one stated below minus today's trophies. The Armenians will soon find themselves in such a hole in debt that Mama don’t worry!

        1. genisis
          genisis 29 October 2020 01: 36
          0
          I know that many have never been to those parts.
          Here is a video showing the attempt of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces to move in the direction of Berdzor, better known by its Soviet name Lachin.
          You can see what the terrain looks like nature at this time of year. There will be something to compare with when watching videos of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense.
          1. MTN
            MTN 29 October 2020 06: 44
            -2
            Quote: genisis
            You can see what the terrain looks like nature at this time of year. There will be something to compare with when watching videos of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense.

            David jan, don't worry, we'll post it in the best possible way. )))
          2. Old tanker
            Old tanker 29 October 2020 07: 11
            +7
            Rollers are rollers, but in fact the Azerbaijanis are slowly but surely grinding the Armenian army in Karabakh and recapturing their legal territories.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 28 October 2020 19: 32
        18
        Yes, the NKR is already a khan, and all of its Armenian defenders - with such a rate of loss of equipment and artillery.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 19: 38
          +3
          Quote: Vadim237
          Yes, the NKR is already a khan, and all its Armenian defenders

          Just posted. With the UAV, individual groups of soldiers are already being hunted. Vysotsky's song "Wolf Hunt" came to mind.
          1. MTN
            MTN 28 October 2020 19: 45
            -5
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            Just posted. With the UAV, individual groups of soldiers are already being hunted. Vysotsky's song "Wolf Hunt" came to mind.

            here is a new video.

            How the Armenians run away
            https://haqqin.az/news/192645
            and then how they destroyed the installation which they beat on Barda
            https://haqqin.az/news/192637
            and this video is how Azerbaijani troops destroyed a sabotage group of Armenians https://fed.az/az/qarabag/ordumuz-zengilanda-dusmenin-diversiya-kesfiyyat-qrupunu-mehv-edib-video-91752
            and new trophies
            https://fed.az/az/qarabag/dusmenin-daha-bir-nece-tanki-herbi-qenimet-kimi-goturulub-91765
            Oh, and Pashinyan's rating will fall today. When they find out that his chatter about a counter attack is deception for internal consumption))))
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 28 October 2020 20: 11
              19
              Quote: MTN
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              Just posted. With the UAV, individual groups of soldiers are already being hunted. Vysotsky's song "Wolf Hunt" came to mind.

              here is a new video.

              How the Armenians run away
              https://haqqin.az/news/192645
              and then how they destroyed the installation which they beat on Barda
              https://haqqin.az/news/192637
              and this video is how Azerbaijani troops destroyed a sabotage group of Armenians https://fed.az/az/qarabag/ordumuz-zengilanda-dusmenin-diversiya-kesfiyyat-qrupunu-mehv-edib-video-91752
              and new trophies
              https://fed.az/az/qarabag/dusmenin-daha-bir-nece-tanki-herbi-qenimet-kimi-goturulub-91765
              Oh, and Pashinyan's rating will fall today. When they find out that his chatter about a counter attack is deception for internal consumption))))

              Look, Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev, the price of his Nobel Prize for the collapse of the USSR.
              1. MTN
                MTN 28 October 2020 20: 22
                -17 qualifying.
                Quote: Terenin
                Look, Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev, the price of his Nobel Prize for the collapse of the USSR.

                and who brought this idea to Humpback? Correctly Armenians. Not just the same they shouted in the USA, Raisa return the diamond.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 28 October 2020 20: 26
                  37
                  Quote: MTN
                  and who brought this idea to Humpback? Correctly Armenians. Not just the same they shouted in the USA, Raisa return the diamond.

                  You are delusional. On the good you and you like the Armenian-Azerbaijani trolls should be blocked for inciting ethnic hatred.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 04
                    12
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    On the good you and you like the Armenian-Azerbaijani trolls should be blocked for inciting ethnic hatred.

                    I agree with you, this is a fratricidal war, in which there are neither the right nor the guilty, but there are a huge number of victims of the civilian population and the destruction of peaceful objects.
                    There will be no winners in this war, just someone will be able to occupy a certain territory, and someone will lose. But everyone will lose, neither side will win. Third parties, instigators, and “helpers and friends” parties will benefit. Who these sides all know perfectly well, those who benefit from this war. And if you put everything on the shelves, then unfold the puzzle and you will understand (who did not understand). Of course, Turkey wants to get into the Caucasus by any means, but it will not be allowed to do so, there are more serious players. Play the puzzle yourself. But I will note once again that the loss will be very significant for both sides.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 28 October 2020 21: 17
                      0
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Play the puzzle yourself.

                      The prize is the European energy markets. The main interests are Russia and Turkey, I am not saying that Russia started this conflict. The Caucasus is a good bait for Turkey. But if Russia allows Azerbaijan to "beat hard" Armenia, then Armenia, at least, will get out of Russia's orbit. And as a maximum, the CSTO will begin to burst at all the seams.
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                      2. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 28 October 2020 21: 54
                        +3
                        Quote: MTN
                        that is, Aliyev gets that legal part ...

                        I think something like that. However, where did I get, or do you have a sufficient amount of information for any sort of sane analysis? All this is so, guesswork, self-indulgence in general.
                      3. genisis
                        genisis 29 October 2020 02: 10
                        +8
                        Omar, why are you writing this heresy? You perfectly understand who has what cards in reality. It is the daa of the player who supports your military efforts that benefit from your successes. These are Turkey and Israel. "When a cat has united with a dog, it is nothing but an alliance against the cook." The cook is Iran. Which is already extremely wary of what is happening.
                        Erdogan receives a victorious war, a patriotic upsurge in Turkey, owed to him by Azerbaijan, whose resources are badly needed to survive in the face of the catastrophic fall of the lira. Israel, in addition to advertising and selling its weapons, continues to receive energy resources from Azerbaijan at a good price, simultaneously preparing an attempt to disintegrate Iran together with Turkey, playing the card of gnawing off Iran from its northern part, bordering Azerbaijan.
                        And who does not win anything if you succeed. The Armenians are understandable, but who else?
                        Russia, of course.
                        Pipe to Europe? Is it a gas one? So Azerbaijan is its 10 billion cubic meters. meters of gas per year will be driven through Turkey to Italy. Russian gas will be used when the Turkish master pleases. This means that the economic benefit from this trade will be near zero.
                        Loyal Erdogan, you say?
                        Russia will never get a loyal Erdogan.
                        Maybe someone has forgotten how the Turks got used to when they shot down a Russian plane and were confident of NATO support. When no support was provided to them, all sorts of maneuvers began in order to apologize and not drop their face. Then the putsch, the Russian Federation warns Erdogan, his regime has resisted and now, it would seem, Erdogan's loyalty should be 100%.
                        However, in strict accordance with the saying "The hand that you cannot cut off, kiss and put it on your forehead," Erdogan's loyalty did not last long. And for today: conflict of interest in Idlib; kissing on the gums with the Ukrainians, whom the Turks will supply so that the Ukrainians will someday dare to clash with the Russian Federation, while the Turks will take care of Crimea, which the “loyal” Erdogan openly calls “unjustly annexed by Russia from the Ottoman Empire”; The Minister of Defense of "loyal" Erdogan's Turkey goes on tour first to Kazakhstan, then to Uzbekistan, and articles about "the great alliance of Turkey, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc." are published in the Turkish press. Finally, Erdogan says: "When we complete our plans in 2023, no one will recognize Turkey, the region or the world as a whole."
                        This leads to a conclusion that anyone can understand: “There can be only one loyalty in Erdogan's understanding. When he sits on the throne, and everyone who cannot bend him will sit on a stool at his feet. "
                        So, apart from additional difficulties in the future, your victory, in your understanding, bodes nothing for Russia.
                        And you perfectly understand that. But you continue to hypocrite and deceive those with whom you are in dialogue.
                        Neither Turkey, nor Israel, nor Azerbaijan have done anything for the good of Russia and are not going to do anything.
                        And the actions of Russia, not advertised, but taking place, clearly prove that Russia plans to play with your trio according to its own rules.
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                    4. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 28 October 2020 22: 57
                      -6
                      Quote: Oprichnik
                      A capacitor plant in Armenia went on strike.

                      And in your opinion, the right to strike is not an inalienable right of workers, which they use in the struggle for their rights?
                  2. Old tanker
                    Old tanker 29 October 2020 07: 20
                    +3
                    And what does the CSTO give it? Only that if someone climbs on any of its members, then Russia must fit in. Yes, we sell weapons to these members at a discount. None of these "members" are helping us in Syria. None of these members recognized Crimea as Russian. All this is the CSTO - a complete populist profanation. We have more or less effective military and military-technical cooperation only with the Belarusians.
                  3. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 29 October 2020 10: 25
                    -1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    The main interests are Russia and Turkey, I am not saying that Russia started this conflict.

                    Turkey is like a battering ram here, but the main interests are the Anglo-Saxons. We will see this soon, the ears are out, and the playful pens will appear soon.
                  4. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 29 October 2020 10: 29
                    -1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    But if Russia allows Azerbaijan to "beat hard" Armenia, then Armenia will at least get out of Russia's orbit.

                    You are right out of orbit, but do not forget Pashenyan and his comrades, these are the creation of Soros.
                2. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 28 October 2020 23: 19
                  +6
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  I agree with you, this is a fratricidal war

                  Leave your idiotic statements to yourself. With what couples are Armenians brothers to us?
                3. sg7s
                  sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 15
                  0
                  Yes, do not care ... We have something to do with it? Why should beggarly Russia be concerned with the showdown of the Azeris? Doesn't anyone care about $ 78 pensions already? People are starving, nothing? The righteous, damn it, gathered ...
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 29 October 2020 13: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: sg7s
                    Yes, do not care ... We have something to do with it? Why should beggarly Russia be concerned with the showdown of the Azeris? Doesn't anyone care about $ 78 pensions already? People are starving, nothing? The righteous, damn it, gathered ...

                    Good comment, I don’t know why Dazdraputov don’t care that I bought analgin for 5p. last year, today it costs 80r. The pension is, of course, higher, but still only enough for a communal apartment and that would not die of hunger. Did they deserve it? I mean old people. We carry portraits of our grandfathers to the immortal regiment, but if they all stood together, where would our "hands" - "drivers" be? With a high degree of probability, they would occupy all the free lamp posts. In any of the republics of the former USSR. And here the Armenians and Azerbaijanis would be together.
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            2. MTN
              MTN 28 October 2020 21: 29
              -7
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              You are delusional. On the good you and you like the Armenian-Azerbaijani trolls should be blocked for inciting ethnic hatred.

              What are you talking about ............ and who asked Stalin to deport Azerbaijanis from Armenia? Google it.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 28 October 2020 21: 35
                -1
                Quote: MTN
                What are you talking about ............ and who asked Stalin for the deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia

                Please provide "attendances", "passwords", that is, please give links to documents of that time, letters, reports, memoranda, etc.
                1. MTN
                  MTN 28 October 2020 22: 22
                  +6
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Please provide "attendances", "passwords", that is, please give links to documents of that time, letters, reports, memoranda, etc.


                  Resolution N: 4083 of the Council of Ministers of the USSR

                  On the resettlement of collective farmers and other Azerbaijani population from the Armenian SSR to the Kura-Araks lowland of the Azerbaijan SSR

                  December 23, 1947 Moscow Kremlin

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                3. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 28 October 2020 23: 02
                  +6
                  Quote: MTN
                  Resolution N: 4083 of the Council of Ministers of the USSR

                  Read it in full, on such conditions, and I would have moved. Not only did they donate money and grain, they also helped transport the cattle. The link was removed for some reason.
                4. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 28 October 2020 23: 22
                  -2
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Not only did they donate money and grain, they also helped to transport the cattle.

                  listen to fairy tales, tell yourself. I come from Armenia, the inhabitants of the mountain villages of the Aran lowland in the heat of the heat is still a pleasure to move. And what was actually put on paper was not given. And secondly, we spit on it. What a hell of a whole people on orders one dude several thousand km away, should be resettled from their lands ?? This moment, i.e. did not embarrass at all. such as you and your homeland will be sold in a moment, the main thing is well paid.
                5. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 28 October 2020 23: 47
                  +4
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  listen to fairy tales tell yourself.

                  I didn’t drink with you at the Brudershaft.
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  And what was actually put on paper was not given.

                  Please attach the documents. And if not, then this is sabotage.
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  And secondly, we didn’t care about it. Why should a whole nation be resettled from their lands on the orders of one dude several thousand kilometers away?

                  The documents say VOLUNTARY. Several, in Russian means a number, from three to five, there, in my opinion, thousands of kilometers. no. If you carefully read the document, you would understand that the Azerbaijanis were offered to move to Azerbaijan.
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  people like you and your homeland will be sold in a moment, the main thing is well paid.

                  Do not judge others by yourself. If you are not aware, then both Armenia and Azerbaijan at that time were part of the USSR, which was the homeland for both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Or do you consider only your village homeland?
                6. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 28 October 2020 23: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  The documents say VOLUNTARY.

                  yes yes we know what it is voluntarily in the USSR, on a voluntary-compulsory basis.
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  If you carefully read the document, you would understand that the Azerbaijanis were offered to move to Azerbaijan.

                  I'll look at you, relatives who have lived conditionally for several generations in the same part of Russia, they take money and send them to some wasteland in Novaya Zemlya. We lived well on our land, we did not rush to a wasteland hot with the weather +40. And the village is my homeland. and all the rest. But this does not give the right to deport people at will.
                7. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 29 October 2020 00: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  yes yes we know what it is voluntarily in the USSR, on a voluntary-compulsory basis.

                  Bring documents, at least some, where there would be at least some hint that they moved against their will.
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  I'll look at you, relatives who have lived conditionally for several generations in the same part of Russia, they take money and send them to some wasteland in Novaya Zemlya. We lived well on our land, we did not rush to a wasteland hot with the weather +40. And the village is my homeland. and all the rest. But this does not give the right to deport people at will.

                  Probably it was -40 in Armenia? The climatic conditions there are quite comparable. I read such comments and it is not clear to me that the optimization of education or the optimization of psychiatric institutions is more to blame.
                8. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 29 October 2020 00: 12
                  -2
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Probably it was -40 in Armenia?

                  in armenia, we lived in mountainous places, rising above sea level 2000, it is almost always cold and snow in the mountains, and then bang in the heat to the lowlands. Know nothing, give documents only you can. My parents hate Baku, because for a mountaineer they are unbearable weather.
                  Therefore, with their advice and good tales to Sheinin and Solovyov, who broadcast that the issue is not about 20% and a million refugees and unsolvability is a question for 30 years, but the matter is in Erdogan.
                  Azerbaijan will return its lands!
                9. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 29 October 2020 00: 34
                  -1
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  in armenia we lived in mountainous places, rising above sea level 2000, almost always cold and snow in the mountains

                  Why did you move then? After all, yours were not forcibly resettled, not the Chechens, after all, with the Tatars. Well, there are no documents about forced or hasty resettlement.
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Azerbaijan will return its lands!

                  I don’t know about Karabakh, it’s not so simple with it, and of course it is necessary to return the seven regions occupied by Armenia. As for the Lachin corridor, it must have a secure status, under international control, since you cannot come to an agreement with the Armenians.
                10. Lexus
                  Lexus 29 October 2020 00: 45
                  19
                  Alexey, please leave them alone. They wanted independence, kicked out "not their own" - so now let them sort it out among themselves. The only thing that Russia should help them with is to arrange for them to do it "at home" and not here. Believe me, when Caucasians sort things out in Moscow, in the end a respectable Slav turns out to be stabbed to death, rushing to separate them, but not they. Do you need it? Time to go home! good
                11. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 29 October 2020 00: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: lexus
                  Alexey, please leave them alone. They wanted independence, kicked out "not their own" - so now let them sort it out among themselves.

                  The fact is that the majority did not want. Armenians, Georgians and Balts voted for disconnection. The Muslim republics voted for preservation. And 3 Slavic republics together have all said so far.
              2. Yeraz
                Yeraz 29 October 2020 00: 53
                -1
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Why did you move then? After all, yours were not forcibly resettled, not the Chechens, after all, with the Tatars. Well, there are no documents about forced or hasty resettlement.

                Our regions were less exposed to this, most of them could later move back. Since the Armenians did not really want to move to our region. The region with cold weather conditions, terrible infrastructure did not particularly attract more urban Armenians. Basically, they deported Azerbaijanis who lived along the Turkish-Armenian border, since the USSR planned to invade Turkey and it was one thing to send Azerbaijanis to Europe to fight the Germans, and another thing against their brothers in blood and religion, so they cleaned out the entire border.


                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                As for the Lachin corridor, it must have a secure status, under international control, since you cannot come to an agreement with the Armenians.

                This is a path already traveled. They have missed this chance. 4 regions have already been returned for the most part. And the Armenians will all flee from NK, in principle, the majority have already left. Of course, Russia can try to stick in Lachin, but for this the Armenian forces have to leave it, but such a desire No, they want to return the lost territories, which means they will have to return Lachin by force and no one will let international forces into the territories that were returned by their own forces.
              3. Rubina
                Rubina 29 October 2020 10: 12
                -1
                Wasn't it forcibly resettled? Under Stalin, one could only voluntarily hang himself. Of course, they were forcibly evicted, not with the help of the army, but with the very happy Armenian police. And they were moved from houses in a cold mountainous area not to cottages, but to tents in the middle of a hot waterless steppe. At first, people lived in terrible conditions, until they themselves established canals, built houses. My grandfather was the head of one of these construction projects, I know this from an eyewitness.
              4. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 29 October 2020 13: 09
                +2
                Quote: Rubina
                Of course, they were forcibly evicted, not with the help of the army, but with the very happy Armenian police. And they were moved from houses in a cold mountainous area not to cottages, but to tents in the middle of a hot waterless steppe

                You may not be aware, but there is the same difference between the police and the police as between the people defending their interests and mercenaries defending the interests of the ruling class. What kind of police are you talking about in those years?
  2. KARAKURT777
    KARAKURT777 29 October 2020 17: 09
    0
    In 1945, the USSR made territorial claims to Turkey for Kars and Ardahan. The confrontation in relations between the countries continued until the death of Stalin. Until 1953, preparations continued to substantiate these claims, and an important step was Stalin's decision to offer foreign Armenians to move to Soviet Armenia (repatriate). In Soviet plans to involve Turkey in the sphere of influence of the USSR, Soviet Armenia occupied the most advantageous military-geographical position on the eastern border of Turkey. Potentially disloyal, in the opinion of the Soviet leadership, Azerbaijanis could become the "fifth column" in the event of an expected conflict with Turkey. Vladislav Zubka considers this to be the main reason why Stalin decided to deport the Azerbaijani population of the Armenian USSR, which was carried out in 1947-1950 in accordance with the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 4083 of December 23, 1947. One of the points of this ruling read:

    Allow the Council of Ministers of the Armenian SSR to use the buildings and houses freed by the Azerbaijani population in connection with their relocation to the Kura-Araksin lowland of the Azerbaijan SSR to use to resettle foreign Armenians arriving in the Armenian SSR.

    The details of resettlement were also defined in the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 754 OF MARCH 10, 1948.


  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 28 October 2020 21: 52
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Armenian-Azerbaijani trolls should be blocked for inciting ethnic hatred.

    In general, you should not block for this, but you must judge. There is even a corresponding law. It remains to seriously engage in the creation of law enforcement practice in this direction.
  • Terenin
    Terenin 28 October 2020 20: 46
    23
    Quote: MTN
    Quote: Terenin
    Look, Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev, the price of his Nobel Prize for the collapse of the USSR.

    and who brought this idea to Humpback? Correctly Armenians. Not just the same they shouted in the USA, Raisa return the diamond.



    When I went to meet the Soviet
    Secretary General, I expected to see dressed in
    bolshevik coat and astrakhan
    a comrade's hat ... but I was introduced
    wearing a fancy french costume
    to the gentleman with the "Rado Manhattan" watch ...
    Looking at them, I thought ...
    - Yes ... He will sell us everything! ...

    R. Reagan ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 06
      +2
      Quote: Terenin
      Looking at them, I thought ...
      - Yes ... He will sell us everything! ...

      Reagan was not mistaken here, he was still a smart man.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 28 October 2020 21: 13
        +4
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Terenin
        Looking at them, I thought ...
        - Yes ... He will sell us everything! ...

        Reagan was not mistaken here, he was still a smart man.

        Yes, Vlad, Reagan had one secret - he was very hardworking and carefully prepared for each performance. Not like the present.
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 28 October 2020 21: 50
    0
    Quote: MTN
    Correctly Armenians

    Why are all sub-Turkish trolls almost completely devoid of intelligence? This can be seen in the posts, like the one quoted. What is the reason?
    1. Rubina
      Rubina 29 October 2020 10: 17
      -2
      Well yes. A month ago, everyone wrote that the "pro-Turkish trolls" only "know how to trade in tomatoes," then it turned out that we - Azerbaijanis - know how to fight. Now we have “low intelligence”. Let's wait another month.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 29 October 2020 12: 12
        0
        Quote: Rubina
        Well yes. A month ago, everyone wrote that the "pro-Turkish trolls" only "know how to trade in tomatoes," then it turned out that we - Azerbaijanis - know how to fight. Now we have “low intelligence”. Let's wait another month.

        before the Roman consuls were denied triumph if the defeated peoples were backward
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 November 2020 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Rubina
        Now we have "low intelligence"

        Why now?

        Quote: Rubina
        A month ago, everyone wrote that "pro-Turkish trolls" only "know how to trade in tomatoes"

        You could not even understand what everyone wrote here "a month ago". It's funny, of course.
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 28 October 2020 20: 45
    0
    EXACTLY!!!
    Here is a snippet of yesterday's internet battle
    (Greetings from Baku)
    Yesterday, 10: 16
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    either the blitz scream failed, then we attack quickly, which is also bad - you will decide there

    Interesting. And what exactly are you - the citizens of Azerbaijan - going to pay in Azerbaijan with the frenzied radical Islamist Turkish Fuhrer for helping Turkey in the victorious war with the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh ?!
    Erdogan does not need your simple "THANKS" to the Turks for nothing! Erdogan is counting on much more!

    In the best traditions of Soviet newspaper editorials.

    Here is my opinion
    With newspaper editorials in their hands, they peacefully sat in teahouses and cafes. Now the enlightened Nations, having gotten rid of oppression, are sitting in the trenches. Keep it up!!!

    Passed on deaf ears, as did yours. Gorby! Gorby !!!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 October 2020 20: 56
      +3
      We have already paid - with excellent advertising of Turkish weapons in action after such a presentation, the export of weapons to Turkey will grow significantly. And Azerbaijan has money, he will pay off if something happens - in contrast to the Armenian beggars at someone else's expense.
      1. Rubina
        Rubina 28 October 2020 21: 12
        -3
        Erdogan really counts on dividends: advertising Turkish weapons, pumping Russian gas through the territory of Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey. But there is one more plus that no one spoke about here.
        In the modern world, the launch of a ballistic missile is recorded by the bases of many countries, including Azercosmos satellites. When Pashinyan says that they did not aim ballistic missiles at Azerbaijani cities far beyond the war zone (Ganja, Barda, Terter), he is lying. This is a war crime, much more serious than the civilian casualties in the war zone. And Azerbaijan can prove it. We will do everything so that the leadership of Armenia for these actions is in the dock at the Hague International Tribunal. If we succeed, judge for yourself what it means for Turkey.
  • deniso
    deniso 28 October 2020 22: 21
    +2
    Videos old 2 weeks ago showed ended probably ... smile , rather not the sabotage group destroyed and the militias who were ambushed.
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 28 October 2020 19: 47
    -7
    Everyone understood that the Armenian troops would answer harshly for shelling a peaceful city and many victims of civilians. Today's videos (4 videos) are proof of this. This Pashinyan is an enemy of Azerbaijan, but also an enemy of Armenians, sending them to such death.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 19: 51
      -2
      By the way. The news has just passed:
      Turkish Kargu-2 (swarm of Dronov-kamikaze) entered service with Azerbaijan. The drone has a semi-autonomous flight and search mode, which allows it to independently detect and engage targets, and the operator can only direct it to a specific area.



      From 55 seconds a video of its use in battle (for those who do not know)
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 28 October 2020 19: 57
        -8
        Yes, the company of drones "Kargu". They operate both in flock mode and separately.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 October 2020 20: 16
          -1
          Soon they will be able to carry 82 and 120 mm caliber mortar mines - all infantry in trenches and in open areas will be turned into mincemeat.
          1. MTN
            MTN 28 October 2020 20: 19
            -9
            Quote: Vadim237
            Soon they will be able to carry 82 and 120 mm caliber mortar mines - all infantry in trenches and in open areas will be turned into mincemeat.

            To the point. New
            https://video.azertag.az/ru/video/105727
          2. Professor
            Professor 28 October 2020 20: 48
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            Soon they will be able to carry 82 and 120 mm caliber mortar mines - all infantry in trenches and in open areas will be turned into mincemeat.


            For a long time already.
            https://topwar.ru/14221-vysokotochnyy-boepripas-dlya-takticheskogo-bpla-preobrazovannyy-iz-81-mm-miny.html
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 28 October 2020 20: 57
              +5
              Quote: Professor
              Quote: Vadim237
              Soon they will be able to carry 82 and 120 mm caliber mortar mines - all infantry in trenches and in open areas will be turned into mincemeat.


              For a long time already.
              https://topwar.ru/14221-vysokotochnyy-boepripas-dlya-takticheskogo-bpla-preobrazovannyy-iz-81-mm-miny.html

              I am very sorry if we in Russia underestimate the role of UAVs in modern warfare.
              1. Professor
                Professor 28 October 2020 21: 04
                +2
                Quote: Terenin
                Quote: Professor
                Quote: Vadim237
                Soon they will be able to carry 82 and 120 mm caliber mortar mines - all infantry in trenches and in open areas will be turned into mincemeat.


                For a long time already.
                https://topwar.ru/14221-vysokotochnyy-boepripas-dlya-takticheskogo-bpla-preobrazovannyy-iz-81-mm-miny.html

                I am very sorry if we in Russia underestimate the role of UAVs in modern warfare.

                Underestimated prior to the current conflict. I am sure that the conclusions have been drawn. However, here most of the commentators are still in favor of artillery and square work. And what to take from them if they were only taught this in their schools? request
              2. Terenin
                Terenin 28 October 2020 21: 09
                +8
                Quote: Professor
                And what to take from them if they were only taught this in their schools?

                Don't tell me, conscientious study helps to quickly assess the situation and quickly make rational decisions.
              3. Professor
                Professor 28 October 2020 21: 18
                -2
                Quote: Terenin
                Quote: Professor
                And what to take from them if they were only taught this in their schools?

                Don't tell me, conscientious study helps to quickly assess the situation and quickly make rational decisions.

                Yah? They were taught in school that all errors obey the AKA Gaussian Normal Distribution Law. However, the bourgeoisie know 200 more laws of distribution of errors. Now look at how Azerbaijanis use these laws ...
              4. Lopatov
                Lopatov 28 October 2020 21: 34
                0
                Quote: Professor
                They were taught in school that all errors obey the AKA Gaussian Normal Distribution Law.

                The main thing is that they were not taught to lie.
                Well, they were not taught to persist in their delusions either.
                Like
                "Even Shamanov wrote that it is impossible to shoot down a UAV"
                "PRPCH cannot be muffled"
                "Our Israeli developers are complete idiots and therefore use CEP as a characteristic of guided weapons."
              5. Professor
                Professor 28 October 2020 22: 18
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                The main thing is that they were not taught to lie.

                They themselves have learned to lie. How are you lying now.

                Quote: Spade
                "Even Shamanov wrote that it is impossible to shoot down a UAV"

                I didn't write that. You're lying.

                Quote: Spade
                "PRPCH cannot be muffled"

                I wrote that the frequency hopping is jammed only by white noise, which is impossible. Here you demonstrate ignorance of the materiel.

                Quote: Spade
                "Our Israeli developers are complete idiots and therefore use CEP as a characteristic of guided weapons."

                I didn't write that. You are lying again.

                You should have studied better, and not work at a gas station. Maybe they would have learned that not all errors in the world obey the Normal Law of Distribution, and even with the Normal Law of Distribution, there is no circle of finite size (such an infinite circle) where 100% of the shells will fall. Although I explain this to whom. You don't even understand how a hybrid engine works ....
              6. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 October 2020 12: 10
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                I did not write this.

                Yes?
                laughing
                Is there someone new under the nickname "professor"?

                Quote: Professor
                I wrote that the frequency hopping is jammed only by white noise

                Well, definitely new. Okay about Shamanov, it was a long time ago, but the phrase "PRPCH is not jammed" is quite recent, just a few days

                Considering your behavior, you should definitely save screenshots of your statements.

                Quote: Professor
                I did not write this.

                They didn’t write it, I thought of it for you.
                After all, you argued that the errors of guided munitions do not obey the normal law. And CEP is tied to it.


                Means what? That's right, you are literate, and Israeli developers are uneducated boobies
                wassat
              7. Professor
                Professor 29 October 2020 14: 45
                +3
                Quote: Spade
                Yes?

                Let's get a quote in the studio. Just don't merge quickly.

                Quote: Spade
                Well, definitely new. Okay about Shamanov, it was a long time ago, but the phrase "PRPCH is not jammed" is quite recent, just a few days

                Considering your behavior, you should definitely save screenshots of your statements.

                What is the problem? I do not delete the comments and it will not be difficult for you to bring my statements in the original. Or did you lie again?

                Regarding the frequency hopping, it can only be drowned out by white noise mathematically, which is practically impossible, therefore Frequency hopping is not jammed... This is the materiel. Try to give an example of jamming frequency hopping. wink

                Quote: Spade
                They didn’t write it, I thought of it for you.
                After all, you argued that the errors of guided munitions do not obey the normal law. And CEP is tied to it.

                Оunambiguously. For clients like you who, apart from the Normal law of distribution, have not learned anything (and it’s bad, too. You have 100% of the shells falling into the final circle. Did the asymptote cross the axis? fool ) MARKETING writes CEP. Developers they don't write that. fellow For more advanced clients who have studied at universities, write PintPoint.

                By the way. Accuracy of a guided munition that is no longer controlled can obey the Normal distribution law. I repeat CAN, but not the fact that it will be. This is influenced by many factors. However, you lack basic education to understand this. You were taught only one of the 200 existing laws of error distribution.
              8. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 October 2020 15: 04
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Regarding the frequency hopping, it can only be drowned out by white noise

                Quote: Professor
                therefore, the frequency hopping is not jammed.

                laughing laughing laughing
                "Pseudo-random tuning of the operating frequency" What is not clear in the word "pseudo"?

                Quote: Professor
                MARKETING writes CEP. Developers don't write that.

                Ah, that's it .... That is, these are not idiots developers, they are site visitors idiots. All sorts of Israelis. Well, buyers of Israeli products
                Honestly, frankly, fiercely plus laughing laughing laughing



                Quote: Professor
                However, you lack basic education to understand this.

                Конечно.
                Not enough for everyone. Developers, consumers, just citizens. Those consuming the "product" of the normal distribution, all these KVO, CEP and others
                Only you have enough.
                But unfortunately, you are not developing VTB, otherwise their production in Israel has long been covered with a copper basin.
              9. Professor
                Professor 29 October 2020 16: 36
                +2
                Where are the links to my beloved? wink

                Quote: Spade
                "Pseudo-random tuning of the operating frequency" What is not clear in the word "pseudo"?

                Incomprehensible key to this pseudo accident. For example, when I use a pseudo-random sequence of numbers rand () in the same Matlab, I always use the current time string as an input. As a result, the sequence is never repeated. How do you apply the random number generator? wink
                It will take about 100 years to crack the key in the frequency hopping when using supercomputers and having the pseudo-random numbers themselves. What means NEVER. Learn the materiel. hi

                Quote: Spade
                Ah, that's it .... That is, these are not idiots developers, they are site visitors idiots. All sorts of Israelis. Well, buyers of Israeli products
                Honestly, frankly, fiercely plus

                The marketing has to adapt to the buyers, the artillerymen who serve the KVO. They don't understand anything else. So sellers get out. wassat
                You will not find a single scientific article where the concept of KVO would be used when discussing the accuracy of high-precision weapons. Just scientific journals for the educated public, and advertising brochures for everyone, including graduates of artillery schools, housewives and experts from the Bulletin of Mordovia.

                Quote: Spade
                Конечно.
                Not enough for everyone. Developers, consumers, just citizens. Those consuming the "product" of the normal distribution, all these KVO, CEP and others
                Only you have enough.
                But unfortunately, you are not developing VTB, otherwise their production in Israel has long been covered with a copper basin.

                No, not all, but only some are missing. What to do if there are those in which all errors obey the Normal Law of Distribution and the asymptote crosses the axis to which it approaches? Educated people know that there are at least 200 (two hundred !!!) laws of error distribution. But as we know, educated in the world is a minority.

                PS
                Well, where is the KVO here?
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-LR2.pdf
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-NLOS.pdf
              10. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 October 2020 16: 46
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                The key to this pseudo randomness is not clear.

                laughing
                Don't tell more stories about your knowledge of mathematics.

                Quote: Professor
                The marketing has to adapt to the buyers, the artillerymen who serve the KVO.

                Artillerymen do not use KVO. Generally. For them, the dispersion is an ellipse.
                laughing
                Stop smacking nonsense, it hurts
                NOBODY IN A SANE MIND WILL ACCEPT ILLITERACY ON ITS OFFICIAL SITE
                And I will not read any more delirium on the topic of "marketing in Israel".
                For I consider such childish excuses disrespectful
              11. Professor
                Professor 29 October 2020 19: 02
                +1
                Where are the links to supposedly my comments? Lied again? Expected.

                Quote: Spade
                Don't tell more stories about your knowledge of mathematics.

                Is that all you have to say? What random number generator do you use?
                I asked for an example of jamming the frequency hopping. You merged again.


                Quote: Spade
                Artillerymen do not use KVO. Generally. For them, the dispersion is an ellipse.

                Stop smacking nonsense, it hurts
                NOBODY IN A SANE MIND WILL ACCEPT ILLITERACY ON ITS OFFICIAL SITE
                And I will not read any more delirium on the topic of "marketing in Israel".
                For I consider such childish excuses disrespectful

                Lopatov was again poked with his nose at the materiel and he merged again. laughing
                So where is KVO or CEP?
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-LR2.pdf
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-NLOS.pdf
              12. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 October 2020 11: 43
                0
                Quote: Professor
                Where are the links to supposedly my comments?

                And here:

                I said, given your habit of rejecting your words, I will keep your bloopers.



                Quote: Professor
                Is that all you have to say?

                What else to say?
                A mathematician should know in what century they learned, for example, to break the Vigenère cipher. And without any computers
                But apparently, Israel has its own mathematics, special. And there the Vigenere cipher can only be broken by "white noise" (?????).
                wassat

                Quote: Professor
                Lopatov was again poked with his nose in the materiel and he again leaked

                laughing
                Yeah ... that is, someone said that

                (you see, I follow you, this is the only way with you)
                In response to your statement, I indicated that "The artillerymen do not use the KVO. In general." Because "For them, the dispersion is an ellipse."

                To which a "professor" said that I "merged" and he "poked my nose" laughing laughing laughing
                Do you even understand how pathetic these attempts to deny reality look?




                Quote: Professor
                So where is KVO or CEP?
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-LR2.pdf
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-NLOS.pdf

                Are you still determined to get into a puddle?
                Yes please...
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/rocks032019.pdf

                Few?
                Here's another
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spice-English-30012020-new-format.pdf


                Questions? Only with me ... "Who is illiterate here? ..." laughing laughing

                Well, how about "nose-poking"? Shit?
              13. Professor
                Professor 31 October 2020 12: 18
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                I said, given your habit of rejecting your words, I will keep your bloopers.

                Where, who and how jammed the RFP connection? But because her impossible drown out. fellow

                Quote: Spade

                What else to say?
                A mathematician should know in what century they learned, for example, to break the Vigenère cipher. And without any computers
                But apparently, Israel has its own mathematics, special. And there the Vigenere cipher can only be broken by "white noise" (?????).

                You still haven't answered which random number generator do you use?
                Here is an example of a PSEUDO random sequence:
                842
                744
                222
                414
                797
                Try to guess the next number or the next frequency at which the signal will be transmitted within a microsecond. Failed? And nobody can. This is impossible since the sequence repeats itself once every 10 years. I don't think it is necessary to write about white noise at all.

                By the way the answer
                742
                https://www.random.org/

                Let's. Tell us on your fingers how the frequency hopping is jammed. I haven't had fun for a long time.

                Quote: Spade
                To which a "professor" said that I "merged" and he "poked my nose"
                Do you even understand how pathetic these attempts to deny reality look?

                You are not the first to merge and deny reality. Your asymptote crosses the axis to which it tends and ALL errors obey the Normal Law of Distribution. These comments are still on the site. wink
                Are you blind? Two references to missiles have no CEP. How so? Explain.
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-LR2.pdf
                https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spike-NLOS.pdf
                Where is KVO? Why is there no performance characteristics of these missiles?
                There is a KVO here https://www.iai.co.il/p/topgu, but these missiles do not? Are they not accurate? wink


                Quote: Spade
                Questions? Only with me ... "Who is illiterate here? ..."

                The one whose asymptote crosses the axis. Don’t you?

                Quote: Professor
                I asked for an example of jamming the frequency hopping. You merged again.

                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping. You are pretending to be "literate". wassat
              14. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 October 2020 12: 40
                0
                Quote: Professor
                But because it cannot be drowned out.

                Kaneshno.
                It's just that Israeli mathematics lagged behind the world for centuries. And this is good...
                And our articles about this have even begun to get publicly available. Apparently, this is not news to the rest of the world ...
                https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/algoritm-radioelektronnogo-podavleniya-radiostantsii-s-psevdosluchai-noi-perestroi-koi-rabochei-chastoty

                The more such "professors" in your country, the better.


                Quote: Professor
                Are you blind? Two references to missiles have no CEP. How so? Explain.

                I have no idea. Maybe they forgot to write?
                But in two more links from the same site, the CEP / CEP has



                Why is it there?



                Quote: Professor
                There is a KVO here https://www.iai.co.il/p/topgun

                Oh-ho-ho-ho .... What a terrible
                What illiterate people .... Write to the competent authorities, they are clearly passionate about totalitarianism and the Hand of Moscow. And must be subjected to garbage lustration

                Drive a filthy broom from work Russian hirelings from Rafale and IAI !!!!! After all, everyone knows that in democratic countries the dispersal of high-precision ammunition is not subject to the normal law !!!!!!!

                Quote: Professor
                Two references to missiles have no CEP. How so?

                And the weight of the fuses is not specified. Probably explode without them. The range at which the target can be locked is also not indicated. The temperature at which the complex can be used is not indicated. The transparency of the atmosphere, the height of the lower boundary of the clouds are not indicated ... Many things are not indicated. And what to do with it now ???
              15. Professor
                Professor 31 October 2020 13: 39
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Kaneshno.
                It's just that Israeli mathematics lagged behind the world for centuries. And this is good...
                And our articles about this have even begun to get publicly available. Apparently, this is not news to the rest of the world ...
                https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/algoritm-radioelektronnogo-podavleniya-radiostantsii-s-psevdosluchai-noi-perestroi-koi-rabochei-chastoty

                The more such "professors" in your country, the better.

                What is the last number in the right column at the bottom?
                285 454 436 260 907
                250 414 787 819 313
                239 893 670 128 546
                523 620 904 424 886
                584 862 706 759 666
                577 274 302 227 287
                480 612 996 825 720
                149 209 340 505 847
                598 536 431 764 764
                654 260 375 279 262
                131 156 471 315 690
                804 198 675 842 872
                302 637 746 641 538
                184 306 625 315 472
                178 915 330 637 635
                240 425 916 777 365
                580 794 351 222 369
                754 386 806 486 186
                369 128 298 549 564
                957 516 566 247 ??

                Do you have an ALGORITHM? wassat You can easily find out on what frequency the transmission will be?
                You confirm my words with a link. Thanks.

                For the jammer, the law of tuning the carrier frequency in the SS with frequency hopping Unknown,what eliminates the possibility of creating effective methods of suppression.
                As required. hi
                And now about the article. You haven't read it. Not enough knowledge? I conduct an educational program. The guys tried to interfere and measured the noise level and the increase in the probability of errors, the lower limit of which they determined in "the average probability of error is not more than 0.0001". AND ABOUT MIRACLE !!! An increase, in our case, of the spectral noise density by 6,5 dBm when exposed to three interference signals leads to the need to increase the power of the useful signal by approximately 4 times to transmit digital data without distortion and loss.
                And now I explain for those who know more than one law of distribution of errors. We raised the noise level by 4.467 times and came to the conclusion that the useful signal would have to be increased by 4 times, respectively. Nobel Prize in the studio. By the way, they did not drown out the signal, but only increased the probability of errors during communication. This can be achieved with a simple radio transmitter. Turn it on at any frequency and transmit Kobzon's songs at full volume. Sooner or later, the frequency hopping will try to transmit a signal on this frequency and will not be able to. Let's forget that there are billions of such frequencies and the loss of a couple of bits of information will not change anything, but you can write an article "ALGORITHM OF RADIO-ELECTRONIC SUPPRESSION OF RADIO STATIONS WITH PSEUDO-RANDOM REBUILDING OF THE OPERATING FREQUENCY WITH THE HELP SONGS OF COBZON"

                The State of Israel is doing almost everything it can to make "professors" like me choose Israel as their permanent place of residence. Here are stupid ... wink

                Quote: Spade
                I have no idea. Maybe they forgot to write?

                Marketing forgot to brag in the KVO brochure? We need to fix this matter. Email them urgently: [email protected]

                Quote: Spade
                Why is it there?

                Well, we found out that they are stupid ...

                Quote: Spade
                And the weight of the fuses is not specified. Probably explode without them. The range at which the target can be locked is also not indicated. The temperature at which the complex can be used is not indicated. The transparency of the atmosphere, the height of the lower boundary of the clouds are not indicated ... Many things are not indicated. And what to do with it now ???

                Urgently complain about them to the "league of sexual minorities". Nobody indicates the weight of the fuses, the range at which the target can be locked corresponds to the stand off. The temperature at which the complex can be used is not really indicated in this brochure. The rest is generally not interesting to artillerymen, but where is the KVO? Okay, the girls from the computer graphics have forgotten in this booklet, but neither Raphael nor the 34 foreign users of these missiles have ever remembered the KVO. I'm at a loss. Enlighten what kind of KVO is there in the end?


                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping.
              16. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 October 2020 13: 55
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                The State of Israel is doing almost everything it can to make "professors" like me choose Israel as their permanent place of residence. Here are stupid ...

                Indeed ... No instinct for self-preservation ...

                Quote: Professor
                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping.

                "In the 1990s, in connection with the introduction of highly immune HF and VHF radio communication channels operating in the adaptation mode and telecode messages into the tactical control echelon systems (TZU) of a potential enemy, the Tambov plant" Revolutionary Labor "under the leadership of General Director Grebenyuk L B. developed and put into mass production automated jamming stations for HF and VHF radio communications, in which automatic (using specialized PCs) determination of the operating frequency, the main parameters of the received signals, the coordinates of radio emission sources and, most importantly, the automatic generation of adaptive interference is provided, providing suppression of terrestrial and aviation radio communication channels with pseudo-random restructuring of the operating frequency (PRHF), as well as short telecode messages. "
                https://oborona.ru/includes/periodics/armament/2015/0122/200715010/detail.shtml

                The 1L262E complex is capable of counteracting not only radio fuses. It can be effectively used for electronic suppression of enemy radio communication lines in the VHF range, including those operating in the mode of programmed tuning of the operating frequency.
                http://roe.ru/catalog/protivovozdushnaya-oborona/sredstva-radiotekhnicheskoy-razvedki-i-reb/1l262e/

                Designed for search, detection and radio suppression of VHF radio communication lines operating at fixed frequencies and in the modes of adaptive and programmed tuning of the operating frequency (APRCH and PPRCH).
                https://kbradar.by/products/radioelektronnaya-borba/stantsii-i-kompleksy-radiopodavleniya-radiosvyazi/110/

                Quote: Professor
                Well, we found out that they are stupid ...

                Q.E.D. After all, I immediately said about it.

                And what else will they be with such "professors"? laughing
              17. Professor
                Professor 31 October 2020 15: 42
                +3
                Quote: Spade
                providing suppression of terrestrial and aviation radio communication channels with pseudo-random restructuring of the operating frequency (RFH), as well as short telecode messages. "

                But what about your article where it is said in Russian in white?
                For the jammer, the law of carrier frequency tuning in the SS with frequency hopping is unknown, that eliminates the possibility of creating effective methods of suppression.

                Which Lopatov to believe, in this commentary or in the previous one?
                I asked for an example of jamming the frequency hopping. Where is the example?

                Quote: Spade
                And what else will they be with such "professors"?

                Really what? How did they bring life expectancy by 10 years higher than in the Russian Federation and the demography is 2 times higher than in the Russian Federation? How did they with the "professors" bypassed the UK in per capita income? laughing

                Quote: Spade
                Well, the cherry on the cake:

                The fact that they are in the competition tried suppress the frequency hopping and solve Fermat's theorem makes me happy, but where is an example success such a thankless deed of jamming something that cannot be jammed? where is the example?

                PS
                I have not received any answers from the all-knowing Lopatov.
                What is Spike's KVO and why is it super-duper classified?
                What is the last number in the right column at the bottom? for the rest I report (793).
              18. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 October 2020 16: 18
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                But what about your article where it is said in Russian in white?

                wassat
                You are having huge reading problems. Because in the UNSECRET article, one of the SUPPRESSION methods is described.

                Is it too difficult for you?

                Quote: Professor
                Really what? How did they bring life expectancy by 10 years higher than in the Russian Federation and the demography is 2 times higher than in the Russian Federation?

                Through migration. The repatriate still has normal brains, he knows how to think. With him, the PRPCH can be jammed, UAVs can be shot down, the normal law can be used to simulate the use of VT ammunition.
                And now his children fall into the hands of "professors"

                Accordingly, the lower the rate of aliyah, the worse it is with the intellect of the nation.


                Quote: Professor
                The fact that in the competition they tried to suppress the PPRCH

                And where did you manage to subtract what they did not succeed?
                Well, okay, for Russia, on the contrary, it is good that you are confident in the impossibility of the OM to suppress the frequency hopping signals. The main thing is that we do not have such frames ...

                By the way, we, patriots of Russia, will need to invest funds for your trip to Ukraine. With lectures. The fact that it is impossible to shoot down a UAV is not jammed, or is jammed by "white noise" ( laughing), and the dispersal of BT ammunition does not obey the normal law, only the Law of the State of Israel on the Exclusiveness of Democracy
              19. Professor
                Professor 31 October 2020 17: 49
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                You are having huge reading problems. Because in the UNSECRET article, one of the SUPPRESSION methods is described.

                Though I am never Russian, but the phrase "For the jammer, the law of the carrier frequency tuning in the SS with frequency hopping is unknown, which excludes the possibility of creating effective methods of suppression"I understand without problems.
                You confirmed my words that
                1. The law of carrier frequency tuning cannot be deciphered.
                2. There is no possibility of creating effective ways to suppress the frequency hopping.

                Quote: Spade
                Through migration. The repatriate still has normal brains, he knows how to think. With him, the PRPCH can be jammed, UAVs can be shot down, the normal law can be used to simulate the use of VT ammunition.
                And now his children fall into the hands of "professors"

                Accordingly, the lower the rate of aliyah, the worse it is with the intellect of the nation.

                Hmm. In the Israeli military-industrial complex, the percentage of repatriates is negligible due to the lack of security clearance. There are no repatriates among the Nobel laureates in physics. Only sabras with "not normal brains". At the Faculty of Aeronautics at the Technion, there is not a single repatriate among the faculty. So go by.
                You are confused. Then you have "The more such" professors "in your country, the better." That "the repatriate still has normal brains." And by the way, migration is not applicable here. "Repatriation" or, at worst, "emigration".

                Aliyah's pace is okay too. The RF is consistently in first place among the donor countries of gray matter and workers.

                Quote: Spade
                And where did you manage to subtract what they did not succeed?

                I have not read anywhere that they did it this way. I remember in the past Soviet life at our faculty there was an associate professor who, at each academic council, refuted the theory of probability. But he never denied it.

                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping. Not trying, but luck.

                What is Spike's KVO and why is it super-duper classified?

                PS
                Not to you, but to those who read the correspondence. We will leave the Voynich manuscript for next time. A couple of years ago, a cipher code from mid-1944 was found in Europe. Until now, they have not been decrypted despite the presence of supercomputers, super algorithms and a challenge to the entire scientific community.
              20. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 November 2020 10: 38
                0
                Quote: Professor
                At least I am never Russian, but the phrase "For the jammer, the law of the carrier frequency tuning in the SS with the frequency hopping is unknown, which excludes the possibility of creating effective suppression methods" I understand without problems.

                And on this you, squealing with delight, stopped your reading?
                laughing
                How do you understand this phrase from the article? You would have stumbled upon it if you had bothered to read on.
                "The developed algorithm makes it possible to effectively suppress the SRS with frequency hopping"



                Quote: Professor
                Hmm. In the Israeli military-industrial complex, the percentage of repatriates is negligible due to the lack of security clearance.

                So they work.
                The rest, arranged by pull, use the fruits of their labor, receiving money.

                Quote: Professor
                Aliyah's pace is okay too.

                Naturally. Otherwise, Israel with such teachers will become stupid in just a few decades.

                Quote: Professor
                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping

                I have already brought them.
                Repeatedly.
                You just have problems reading comprehension.

                Quote: Professor
                What KVO does Spike have

                I have no idea. As well as I do not know the temperature limits of the operation of the complex.
                But unlike some, I am adequate enough not to conclude that such limits do not exist.
                They did not write and did not write ... Perhaps they were your students, and therefore they did not have enough brains ...

                The fact remains: I have provided links to the use by IAI specialists of the CEP characteristics in the performance characteristics of guided weapons.
                That is, you definitely and specifically got into a puddle.



                Quote: Professor
                Still not decrypted

                Allegedly, the mathematician is not aware that the encryption is too short even to determine the type of cipher?
                Lovely.
                I am glad that in the country-probable adversary such people are allowed to teach.
                laughing laughing laughing
              21. Professor
                Professor 1 November 2020 16: 43
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                And on this you, squealing with delight, stopped your reading?

                How do you understand this phrase from the article? You would have stumbled upon it if you had bothered to read on.
                "The developed algorithm makes it possible to effectively suppress the SRS with frequency hopping"

                I, unlike you, read the article to the end and even commented on how "effectively" it was suppressed. Let's dwell on their phrase: "For the jammer, the law of the carrier frequency tuning in the SS with frequency hopping is unknown, that excludes the possibility of creating effective methods of suppression ". As required. tongue

                Quote: Spade
                So they work.
                The rest, arranged by pull, use the fruits of their labor, receiving money.

                Aaaaaaaaaan The repatriates have 810 hours a day, so they have time for 9. However, there is a discrepancy with the teaching staff of the Faculty of Aeronautics, the Merkava tank, the Saar corvette, the Lavi fighter, the Saltam artillery, the IBRD Jericho, the Ofek satellites. All of them were created before the Jews were released from the scoop.

                Quote: Spade
                Naturally. Otherwise, Israel with such teachers will become stupid in just a few decades.

                Why is everything so sad here? After all, you have everything as it should, and there are no people like me, and all errors are distributed according to the Normal Law?

                Quote: Spade

                I have already brought them.
                Repeatedly.
                You just have problems reading comprehension.

                No, they didn’t bring me even once. Only attempts were made. Where are the successes? Otherwise, attempts to create Perpetuum mobile can be equated with "developed".

                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping. Not trying, but luck.

                Quote: Spade

                I have no idea. As well as I do not know the temperature limits of the operation of the complex.
                But unlike some, I am adequate enough not to conclude that such limits do not exist.
                They did not write and did not write ... Perhaps they were your students, and therefore they did not have enough brains ...

                The fact remains: I have provided links to the use by IAI specialists of the CEP characteristics in the performance characteristics of guided weapons.
                That is, you definitely and specifically got into a puddle.

                That is, neither you nor 34 foreign users, nor the developer himself "have no idea" what kind of Spike KVO? How is it, Lopatov? All your errors obey the Normal Law of Distribution. Finally, count the KVO Spike. The rocket costs more than $ 100 and does not have a KVO?

                Don't just merge quickly and don't jump off the topic. I just started to have fun. wink

                Quote: Spade
                Allegedly, the mathematician is not aware that the encryption is too short even to determine the type of cipher?
                Lovely.
                I am glad that in the country-probable adversary such people are allowed to teach.

                Aaaa definitely. But what about the Voynich manuscript? There is a beech sea. Why didn’t schmogli decipher? I'm already embarrassed to ask how you will decode a pseudo-random sequence of numbers, because it repeats itself once every 10 years. I will ask about 000 (ten thousand) letters from John F. Byrne. (John F. Byrne) A cash prize has been awaiting for their deciphering since 10. There are millions of beeches. Supercomputers are available. What's the problem, Lopatov? laughing
                What kind of random number generator do you yourself use? This is a big secret? Share. Chessword I will not laugh.
              22. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 November 2020 17: 09
                0
                Quote: Professor
                I, unlike you, read the article to the end

                Yeah ..
                Well, try to answer what the phrase means
                "The developed algorithm makes it possible to effectively suppress the SRS with frequency hopping"
                contained in the article.
                Which you supposedly read, but managed not to notice it.

                Quote: Professor
                Aaaaaaaaaan

                I think so too.

                Quote: Professor
                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping.

                I have provided you with these examples.
                The fact that you stubbornly do not notice them - your problems

                Quote: Professor
                Finally, count the KVO Spike.

                That's all, you have reached complete delirium. Do you even understand what you wrote?
                laughing
                Are you ready to share with me the initial data for such a calculation?


                Quote: Professor
                Don't just merge quickly

                In no case. Waiting for data

                "I congratulate you, Sharik" ... (c) laughing laughing laughing

                Quote: Professor
                But what about the Voynich manuscript?

                You do not.
                Is it exactly encrypted using pseudo-random numbers?
                laughing
                "Mathematician"........ laughing laughing laughing
              23. Professor
                Professor 1 November 2020 20: 42
                +1
                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping. Not trying, but luck. Don't merge so stupidly. Just give an example of SUCCESSFUL jamming of frequency hopping.

                Quote: Spade
                In no case. Waiting for data

                Catch wink


                PS
                I will ask about 10 (ten thousand) letters from John F. Byrne. (John F. Byrne) A cash prize has been awaiting for their decryption since 000. There are millions of beeches. Supercomputers are available. What's the problem, Lopatov?
              24. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 November 2020 20: 56
                0
                Quote: Professor
                I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping

                Station 1L262. she is Mercury-BM
                At the office. Rosoboronexport's website indicates that the complex is jamming the frequency hopping

                Station RB-531BE, aka "Infauna"
                At the office. the site "Constellation" indicates that the complex jamming the frequency hopping

                Two examples. In order not to be sprayed.
                I have not seen a single statement that the stations, contrary to the description, cannot jam the frequency hopping.

                Do you have evidence that they cannot?

                Just do not merge stupidly, as you merged with "Spikes"
              25. Professor
                Professor 1 November 2020 21: 08
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Do you have evidence that they cannot?

                That NOT can? Lopatov, you are on fire today. Do you have any evidence that I cannot walk on water and I cannot turn water into wine? wassat

                I am impressed by the formulation of the Belarusian scientists that Lopatov provided to me. "For the jammer, the law of the carrier frequency tuning in the SS with frequency hopping is unknown, that excludes the possibility of creating effective methods of suppression ". Do you understand the meaning of the word "exclude"?

                http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-803.html ни слова о ППРЧ

                http://roe.ru/catalog/protivovozdushnaya-oborona/sredstva-radiotekhnicheskoy-razvedki-i-reb/rb-531be/ ни слова о ППРЧ

                Have you counted KVO Spike? I have provided you with the data.

                I will ask about 10 (ten thousand) letters from John F. Byrne. (John F. Byrne) A cash prize has been awaiting for their decryption since 000. There are millions of beeches. Supercomputers are available. What's the problem, Lopatov?
              26. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 November 2020 21: 16
                0
                Quote: Professor
                What can they NOT? Lopatov

                laughing
                Reading problems?
                I repeat, I am not sorry

                Do you have any evidence that "Mercury-BM and" Infauna ", contrary to the manufacturers' statements, cannot jam the frequency hopping, or have you stupidly merged as on the topic of KVO?
              27. Professor
                Professor 1 November 2020 21: 23
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Quote: Professor
                What can they NOT? Lopatov

                laughing
                Reading problems?
                I repeat, I am not sorry

                Do you have any evidence that "Mercury-BM and" Infauna ", contrary to the manufacturers' statements, cannot jam the frequency hopping, or have you stupidly merged as on the topic of KVO?

                Prove that they CAN... Belarusian scientists claim that "For the jammer, the law of the carrier frequency tuning in the SS with frequency hopping is unknown, which excludes the possibility of creating effective methods of suppression".
                Not "difficult", "excludes". That is, it is IMPOSSIBLE. The opposite has not been proven. Is it difficult for you to understand the meaning of the word "exclude"? Something personal?
              28. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 November 2020 21: 32
                0
                Quote: Professor
                Prove that they CAN.

                That is DRAIN
                And the data that, contrary to the statements of this, they cannot-no
                As i expected

                Quote: Professor
                Belarusian scientists claim that

                "The developed algorithm allows effective suppression SRS with frequency hopping"
                You too could not explain this phrase.
                And pretend not to notice her. Another DRAIN
              29. Professor
                Professor 1 November 2020 21: 45
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Quote: Professor
                Prove that they CAN.

                That is DRAIN
                And the data that, contrary to the statements of this, they cannot-no
                As i expected

                Quote: Professor
                Belarusian scientists claim that

                "The developed algorithm allows effective suppression SRS with frequency hopping"
                You too could not explain this phrase.
                And pretend not to notice her. Another DRAIN

                This is the last comment for today. Let's summarize:
                1. There is no example or evidence that someone was able to jam the communication systems with the RFP.
                2. Belarusian scientists declare that "For the jammer, the law of the carrier frequency tuning in the SS with frequency hopping is unknown, which excludes the possibility of creating effective methods of suppression"... Not "difficult", but "excludes". That is, it is IMPOSSIBLE.
              30. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 November 2020 21: 51
                0
                Quote: Professor
                e "difficult" and "exclude". That is, it is IMPOSSIBLE.

                Which words do you not understand in the phrase
                "The developed algorithm makes it possible to effectively suppress the SRS with frequency hopping"
                Maybe when I explain them to you, the general meaning of the phrase will reach you?

                Quote: Professor
                There is no example or evidence that anyone has been able to jam the communication systems with the frequency hopping system.

                You're lying.
                For the ability to this of the complexes "Mercury" and "Infauna" is indicated by the manufacturer and the seller
                And you could not give a single example or statement refuting this

                Drain
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 November 2020 21: 18
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Have you counted KVO Spike? I have provided you with the data.

        It's a lie.

        Explicit drain.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 1 November 2020 21: 07
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Catch

    What "catch" ????????
    laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing

    It seems that some people do not understand what this is about in principle.

    Or a hundred "spikes" for shooting tests
    Or several for disassembly, installation on benches and simulating several hundred applications
    Or an exact diagram with precise errors for each block.

    Give birth ....
  • Professor
    Professor 1 November 2020 21: 14
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Professor
    Catch

    What "catch" ????????
    laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing

    It seems that some people do not understand what this is about in principle.

    Or a hundred "spikes" for shooting tests
    Or several for disassembly, installation on benches and simulating several hundred applications
    Or an exact diagram with precise errors for each block.

    Give birth ....

    A dozen of data is enough to calculate the variance. Is not it? The difference in a hundred initial data or a dozen is only in the "confidence level", but you already know this without me. So take the trouble to stop trolling and count the CWO. Are you really an artilleryman?

    https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/36734892.pdf
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 1 November 2020 21: 22
    0
    Quote: Professor
    A dozen data is enough to calculate the variance.

    laughing
    Lying.
    Much more than a dozen. And in a row ..
    But this is not usually done, it is expensive.
    Stand and imitation
    As a last resort, data on blocks.

    When will you send Spike? I'm waiting.
    Or a drain?
  • Professor
    Professor 1 November 2020 21: 36
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Professor
    A dozen data is enough to calculate the variance.

    laughing
    Lying.
    Much more than a dozen. And in a row ..
    But this is not usually done, it is expensive.
    Stand and imitation
    As a last resort, data on blocks.

    When will you send Spike? I'm waiting.
    Or a drain?

    Lopataov merged. And how many show-offs that were.
    In the link I have provided you with the formulas. 10 points are enough to calculate the variance. The denominator is always N minus 1. N equals 10. Are you unable to divide by nine? Take a calculator after all. You're an artilleryman. The video shows how the rocket ALWAYS hits the aiming point, that is, the error is ... Drive into the formula and count. This is not jamming the frequency hopping, it's elementary, Lopatov. wink

    In general, you amuse me. That is, when they considered the KVO "Bulava" they shot itMuch more than a dozen. And in a row"? In one gulp? wassat
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 1 November 2020 21: 40
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Lopataov merged. And how many show-offs that were.

    I cannot "merge", I am always ready.
    I am waiting for you when you present me with the opportunity to calculate the KVO

    Well, come on, what are you.

    Quote: Professor
    10 points for calculating variance is enough

    It is possible for 10 points. Not very accurate, but it will work.
    In this case, there should be one goal. And rockets must arrive at it in a row.

    Is it done? No.

    And who has merged here?

    Quote: Professor
    That is, when they considered the KVO "Bulava" they shot "Much more than a dozen. And in a row"? In a volley?

    Once again I am convinced of your inability to read.
    What you do not understand in the phrase "But this is not usually done, it is expensive."
  • Professor
    Professor 1 November 2020 21: 52
    +2
    I think for and not for Lopatov. His calculator ran out of wood. The spike on the video ALWAYS hits exactly the aiming point, so the error is zero. The numerator contains zero. Divide zero by any number of experiments and we get zero again and OH MIRACLE !!! KVO is zero. However, all this would be true if Spike was not a guided weapon and his error could be described by Gauss's law. But all this is not for gas station workers. Here you have to think. fool
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 31 October 2020 14: 07
    0
    Quote
    But since the law by which the frequency changes, you don’t know ....

    It turns out without any problems. And as it may not seem strange - it is not very important.
    Especially in radio intelligence. In RTR, this law is somewhat more interesting.

    Quote
    ... then for analysis you will need a very powerful computer (information power) ...

    If I give sufficient system requirements for the computer that is needed for this, people will laugh - most home computers are more powerful.


    http://forums.airbase.ru/2006/04/t37746--voprosy-skydrony-podavlenie-sredstv-svyazi-i-rls-protivnika-.html
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 31 October 2020 14: 22
    0
    Quote: Professor
    I'm waiting for an example of jamming the frequency hopping.

    Well, the cherry on the cake:
    On September 30, the Chief of the Electronic Warfare (EW) Troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation summed up the results of the Electronic Frontier competitions and competitions for crews and officers of formations, military units and EW subunits of the RF Armed Forces.

    For the first time, complex types of signals were used to assess the professional training of personnel and the quality of performing tasks as intended, including signals with pseudo-random frequency tuning.

    http://mil.ru/et/news/more.h[email protected]
  • Shahno
    Shahno 31 October 2020 13: 43
    -1
    // It's just that Israeli mathematics has lagged behind the world for centuries. And that's good ... // Did you say that without thinking? I give you a chance to apologize. Otherwise I will have to go to the facts good
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 31 October 2020 14: 05
    +2
    Quote: Shahno
    Otherwise I will have to go to the facts

    How interesting...
    Facts are good, facts are great.
    Are the Israeli REP systems able to jam the frequency hopping or not?

    Quote: Shahno
    I give you a chance to apologize.

    Why?
    Let your colleague apologize, he portrays Israel as a backward country. laughing
  • Shahno
    Shahno 31 October 2020 14: 15
    -1
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Shahno
    Otherwise I will have to go to the facts

    How interesting...
    Facts are good, facts are great.
    Are the Israeli REP systems able to jam the frequency hopping or not?

    Quote: Shahno
    I give you a chance to apologize.

    Why?
    Let your colleague apologize, he portrays Israel as a backward country. laughing

    We are fine. Change f 35 to f22. A complicated process, of course .. But.
    Ps. This is also about mathematics ..
    And a slap in the face for those who thought we couldn't speak to the Arab world
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 31 October 2020 14: 19
    +1
    Quote: Shahno
    We are fine. Change f 35 to f22.

    Both cars are American. The last Israeli fighter was covered with a copper basin in 1987 at the request of the Americans. Although he has already flown ...
    And where is "okay"?

    Ps. This is also about mathematics .. laughing
  • Terenin
    Terenin 28 October 2020 22: 44
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Yah?

    Yes, wildebeest! Not harnessed.
  • Professor
    Professor 28 October 2020 23: 21
    -2
    Quote: Terenin
    Quote: Professor
    Yah?

    Yes, wildebeest! Not harnessed.

    This is the argument. Artillery school graduate?
  • Terenin
    Terenin 28 October 2020 23: 37
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Terenin
    Quote: Professor
    Yah?

    Yes, wildebeest! Not harnessed.

    This is the argument. Artillery school graduate?

    So exactly soldier Fire overlap! Did not hear? wink
  • deniso
    deniso 28 October 2020 22: 33
    -2
    Why drag ammunition on a UAV? When with the help of a UAV it is possible to direct the same "Smerch" with a new missile and accurately hit targets within 100 km.
    https://youtu.be/qCZ2sRJqIzM
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 28 October 2020 21: 42
    +2
    Quote: Terenin
    I am very sorry if we in Russia underestimate the role of UAVs in modern warfare.

    Come on...
    The sea of ​​materials is even in the public domain, read. Kolomna collection alone is worth something.
    And real combat is easy to find.
    Google About the creation of a reconnaissance and firing complex with an Orlan-10 UAV to perform particularly important tasks
  • Terenin
    Terenin 28 October 2020 22: 48
    +5
    Quote: Spade
    Come on...

    Oh, this is "okay" ... No matter how it turns out again ... - through thorns to the stars ...
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 28 October 2020 23: 16
    +4
    By the way, yes, yesterday it seemed like the first set of reconnaissance shock Orions was adopted by Russia.
  • OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 23: 25
    +1
    Yeah, it's strange that there was no news here.
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  • MTN
    MTN 28 October 2020 19: 41
    -9
    Quote: Vadim237
    Yes, the NKR is already a khan, and all of its Armenian defenders - with such a rate of loss of equipment and artillery.

    Even if the war is stopped now, God knows how long it will take for them to recover from such devastation. They have lost not only a huge mass of equipment, but also personnel. With a population of 2.5 million, it will not be easy + migration suitcase Yerevan - Sochi or Krasnodar. In short, like this. Azerbaijan, in turn, not only prepared well, but also forked out if the drones began to hit the single infantry. Considering the foreign exchange reserve and human resource, there will be no tangible materially. Sorry only for ours. What handsome men die for the ambitions of Armenians. They really do not live at home and did not allow others to live. I saw this Karabakh, pigs in mosques, everything is obka-ka-but not well-groomed. Only Khankyandi and Shusha more or less ....
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 October 2020 19: 48
      -4
      Turkey has probably provided Azerbaijan with its stocks of weapons and ammunition.
      1. MTN
        MTN 28 October 2020 20: 11
        -1
        Quote: Vadim237
        Turkey has probably provided Azerbaijan with its stocks of weapons and ammunition.

        Perhaps I don’t deny it. I think Israel too. Ukraine is also possible. And I almost forgot the shells from Iran for mortars.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 16
      +3
      Quote: MTN
      What handsome men die for the ambitions of the Armenians.

      Handsome and young on both sides, crying of mothers, wives and children. It is an unbearable sight, whether it be Armenians or Azerbaijanis. And this is because of the ambitions of politicians, and because of the instigators playing their game with the lives of these two peoples. God and Allah, understand your lost children.
      1. MTN
        MTN 28 October 2020 21: 45
        -6
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And this is because of the ambitions of politicians, and because of the instigators playing their game with the lives of these two peoples. God and Allah, understand your lost children.

        Vlad, why don't you write about God in images of Armenians. Aren't they self-determined in the former lands of Azerbaijan? Self-determined. Russia gave them the Armenian province. Will not be enough? They don't really live at home, they all migrate from Argentina to Krasnodar. And a piece of paper from a serious organization from the UN to the European Parliament tells them that the troops must withdraw. They themselves do not recognize Karabakh. Nobody recognizes. Maybe it's time to distinguish between occupiers and victims?

        When the Nazis attacked the USSR, no one said God give brains to the peoples who live in the USSR and Germany. Usually the culprit is cursed and the victim is asked for help. They lived in Azerbaijan. Did you live badly? Be sure to self-determine where do you live for a long time? comes out tomorrow and Krasnodar Territory and Stavropol also give them? French Marseille? American California? In Argentina, the city of Cordoba? This is absurd. The same is with us.

        And in general terms you are right.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 28 October 2020 22: 24
    +4
    Quote: fn34440
    the situation in the NKR will become disastrous. The republic will be completely isolated and surrounded.

    I wonder if the West will shout about ethnic cleansing when caravans of refugees will be pulled from Karabakh to Armenia? When the Albanians fled from Kosovo to Albania, there were screams - Mama do not cry. And the Serbs were bombed under this pretext.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 28 October 2020 23: 48
      +2
      Quote: Nagan
      when caravans of refugees will reach from Karabakh to Armenia?

      oh, straight caravans. Half of these 150 thousand, and so were in Armenia and occupied state posts, had a good fortune and continue to have.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 29 October 2020 01: 29
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        Half of these 150 thousand

        Half of 150000 turns out to be 75000. I don't remember how many Albanian refugees from Kosovo, but it seems like not much more. In general, it is enough for NATO to have an excuse to bomb the Serbs both in Kosovo and throughout Serbia, including Belgrade. I wonder what the West thinks about this, the Armenians are better or worse than the Albanians? Trump is definitely purple, but Macron seems to be on the hunt, but so far NATO has not undertaken a single operation in which America does not provide the bulk of forces and means and, accordingly, command.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 29 October 2020 02: 22
          +2
          Quote: Nagan
          I don't remember how many Lban refugees from Kosovo, but it seems like not much more.

          Well, the population of Kosovo is 1.8 million. Therefore, there could not have been much more refugees from Kosovo, but there were much more.
          In the West of Britain, Armenians don't care. Germany is shaltay baltai. Italy is in excellent relations with Azerbaijan in all spheres. Eastern European countries are also on good terms with Azerbaijan, recipients of Azerbaijani gas and in some countries there will be a significant share, such as Bulgaria. we have the negative of France and Greece, but Greece is ridiculous to consider, France remains. Given that the Caucasus was the fiefdom of Britain and here the French historically did not have strong positions, France can only chat due to the presence of the Armenian diaspora and the grandfather of the Armenian at Macron, purely technical leverage is not enough.
          The United States remains, but elections there too can be ruled out until January, Russia and Turkey remain.
          Iran has already announced its territorial integrity many times through officials, and the mass rallies in the north of Iran by local Azerbaijanis do not give rise to a sharp movement of Iran against Azerbaijan.
          And the world somehow turned a blind eye to a million refugees from Azerbaijan, I think 70 thousand Armenians will not embarrass anyone, and given that they left Armenia itself in much larger numbers and are present almost in every corner of the world, an Armenian visitor is a common thing, not an exception.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 29 October 2020 02: 36
            +2
            Quote: Yeraz
            France can only chat due to the presence of the Armenian diaspora and the Armenian grandfather of Macron

            Is your grandfather an Armenian? This explains something. Here it’s not even a matter of political views, but on a subconscious level you take the side of “your own”, but consciousness will somehow find an excuse for this, such as a “humanitarian catastrophe” or whatever.
            Quote: Yeraz
            technically, there is little leverage

            Foreign Legion? Isn't it a lever? Another thing is whether Macron has enough personal belongings to press this lever? It's somehow doubtful. negative No.
            Quote: Yeraz
            And the world somehow turned a blind eye to a million refugees from Azerbaijan, I think 70 thousand Armenians will not confuse anyone

            But in general, the situation is disgusting, there are simply no good solutions, for anybody someone falls under the distribution, and the civilian population on both sides is sincerely sorry, and the boys running under fire with machine guns are also sorry.
    2. poquello
      poquello 29 October 2020 00: 32
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      Quote: fn34440
      the situation in the NKR will become disastrous. The republic will be completely isolated and surrounded.

      I wonder if the West will shout about ethnic cleansing when caravans of refugees will be pulled from Karabakh to Armenia? When the Albanians fled from Kosovo to Albania, there were screams - Mama do not cry. And the Serbs were bombed under this pretext.

      Yes, I'm generally interested in the reaction of the lingual-ass west to this aggression, President Sargsyan is a friend of the British and Pashinyan is his hand, the Armenian course to the west, there are slightly fewer Armenians in the world than Jews, the State Conservatory is generally an Armenian region of France, and only Macron did something unsuccessfully there, after which Erdogan pissed him and froze him.
  • zinoviy
    zinoviy 30 October 2020 18: 36
    0
    "according to Russian military analytical sources" - better Russian fairy tales read more truth there.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 28 October 2020 19: 09
    14
    Armenia does not support the NKR.
    Stepanokert was bombed by aviation.
    And where are the Armenian SU30SM.
    The war is going on between Azerbaijan and NKR.
    Pashinyan drains Karabakh.
    Moaning to the audience.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 19: 29
      -14 qualifying.
      Quote: Livonetc
      And where are the Armenian SU30SM.

      They are based on airfields. As soon as they start taking off, they will be taken for escort by the Turkish "Awax", as soon as they begin to approach the combat zone, they will be destroyed by the Turkish F16s. Not Russia, not Armenia, will not allow this. Therefore, the Su-30 will be at the airfield until the end of the fighting.
      1. genisis
        genisis 28 October 2020 19: 46
        10
        Yes, they have already risen into the air twenty times, what are you talking about?
        Here at VO a week ago we discussed that two of the four aircraft flew from Erebuni to Gyumri.
        It was still not enough for the Turkish F-16s to decide who should fly in the Armenian sky. Maybe Russian MiG-29s from Erebuni cannot take off from fear of Turkish F-16s?
        1. MTN
          MTN 28 October 2020 19: 53
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: genisis
          Yes, they have already risen into the air twenty times, what are you talking about?

          You never know have gone up ..... but the missiles are not there or have already been delivered?

          Quote: genisis
          It was still not enough for the Turkish F-16s to decide who should fly in the Armenian sky.

          It depends on what you call the Armenian sky David Jan.
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 20: 13
          +2
          Quote: genisis
          Here at VO a week ago we discussed that two of the four aircraft flew from Erebuni to Gyumri.

          And what news about them since then? How many times have they taken off? And why did they fly to the Russian base? Closer to the war zone?
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 28 October 2020 20: 13
      +7
      Quote: Livonetc
      Pashinyan drains Karabakh.

      And who weren't the magpies merged? request
      1. Clear
        Clear 28 October 2020 22: 34
        +5
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: Livonetc
        Pashinyan drains Karabakh.

        And who weren't the magpies merged? request

        Under Pashinyan, the staff of the American embassy in Yerevan was expanded by 2000 people, and cooperation with NATO began in many areas. Pro-Russian businessmen and politicians were arrested in the country, in addition, an investigation against Gazprom was launched at the suggestion of the United States. Measures were taken to reduce the role of the Russian language, Russian TV channels were ousted from the local information space.
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 28 October 2020 20: 14
      +4
      Quote: Livonetc
      https://fed.az/az/qarabag/ordumuz-zengilanda-dusmenin-diversiya-kesfiyyat-qrupunu-mehv-edib-video-91752

      Well, what will 4 Su-30s do against 15 MiG-29s? Plus, Azerbaijanis have a minimum of 140 hours of flight per annum, and a maximum of 40 for Armenians.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 22: 56
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Well, what will 4 Su-30s do against 15 MiG-29s?

        They will shoot down all 15 moments, in one joint volley. Completely different classes of vehicles, the Armenian Su-30s are 3-4 heads better than the Azerbaijani MiG-29s. Therefore, the Turks keep the F16 in Azerbaijan, working together with the Avaks, they are guaranteed to destroy the Su-30.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 29 October 2020 05: 05
          -2
          For one joint volley they will be lucky if 5 cars are shot down))
          Depends on the qualifications of the pilots, of course, but the MiG-29 is not a bad machine - comparable to the F-15, not the I-15bis versus the Me-109
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 29 October 2020 09: 41
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            I-15bis vs Me-109

            Even worse. The MiG 29 is a disgusting machine that is completely dependent on ground services, consider that it lacks its own avionics, the most shot down aircraft of the 4th generation. Unlike the Su-30, which is a really great car.
            Nothing depends on the pilots there. This is a sniper versus a blind man.
            In addition, Azerbaijan has Ukrainian Mig 29 9-13, without normal modernization, I'm not sure that they fly at all.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 29 October 2020 09: 49
              0
              About nothing depends on the pilot - you exaggerated a little. laughing Even very economical Israelis make for any typewriter, incl. F-35, a frantic annual flight time of pilots, exceeding at least 2 times the average NATO, because consider the seat-to-wheel spacer to be the most critical factor. About the most confusing one - so the question is who piloted them. As far as I remember, of the Europeans, the Dutchman shot down Yugoslav. I will not argue about minced meat - perhaps the Israelis modernized something, but not a fact.
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 29 October 2020 09: 55
                0
                How can something depend on the pilot, if the MiG 29 simply does not see the Su 30 on its radars and the rocket arrives there simply from nowhere? The MiG 29 is designed as a ground-controlled interceptor, a disgusting concept. Su 30 as a versatile fighter for air supremacy.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 29 October 2020 09: 57
                  0
                  The distances are not there so that someone does not see someone, in addition, we do not know the current state of the Azerbaijani aircraft - whether it was modernized or not, if so, what kind of stuffing.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 18
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      Pashinyan drains Karabakh.
      Moaning to the audience.

      If he does not do this, then he has one outcome, and one cartridge.
    5. Yeraz
      Yeraz 28 October 2020 23: 49
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      The war is going on between Azerbaijan and NKR.

      okay ??? S-300 destroyed probably also by the NKR. And the coffins are going to Armenia, too, probably because of the non-participation of the Armenian Armed Forces. Do not displace the people. The Armenian Armed Forces have stood there for 30 years and are fighting there.
  • Evil543
    Evil543 28 October 2020 19: 53
    +8
    The first two cuts have already been laid out two times. A couple of episodes added maybe
    1. genisis
      genisis 28 October 2020 20: 02
      +4
      It's just too lazy to analyze them. One and the same D-20 wanders from video to video, just change the angle.
      The Defense Army has never had so much equipment as it was crumbled in the cartoons of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 28 October 2020 20: 18
        +3
        That means they did not have some ACS Hyacinth B from 50 to 100 units in service.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 28 October 2020 20: 30
    +5
    Quote: lexus
    Like a dash. In perfect conditions.

    Rather, it can be said about the Azerbaijani VET.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 20: 45
      0
      Your spikes are similar.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 28 October 2020 20: 56
        +1
        Spike-ER most likely 99%)
      2. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 28 October 2020 20: 58
        0
        Expensive, 250 thousand dollars each.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 28 October 2020 21: 03
          +2
          Quote: Oquzyurd
          Expensive, 250 thousand dollars each.
          ER 120 thousand. It is up to 8 km.
          But NLOS is valid for 250, but it is up to 32 km. In principle, is it worth it?
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 28 October 2020 21: 05
            +1
            Worth. Beautiful rockets. For the money of the country just right.
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 21: 05
          +2
          100 PU 2700 missiles. You need to spend, their storage period is not infinite.
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 28 October 2020 21: 11
            -2
            When this war is over, and there will be a line to buy for those missiles and drones that have shown themselves in all their glory. Armored vehicle manufacturers are already scratching their heads, without any optimism.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 October 2020 23: 24
            -1
            In fact, they have over 200 spikes and over 5000 missiles for them.
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 23: 26
              -2
              Especially. Impressive strength.
    2. Professor
      Professor 28 October 2020 21: 22
      -1
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Quote: lexus
      Like a dash. In perfect conditions.

      Rather, it can be said about the Azerbaijani VET.

      Several are clearly airborne. Observation 1.
      Most starts at night. Observation 2.
  • Clear
    Clear 28 October 2020 21: 22
    +4
    Quote: lexus
    Like a dash. In perfect conditions.

    Alexey, only in the future, the prize for the marksman will be the last gift in his life.
  • Trojan_wolf
    Trojan_wolf 28 October 2020 19: 03
    16
    Those who are really sorry are the civilians suffering from shelling, and it doesn't matter from whose side.
  • KAVBER
    KAVBER 28 October 2020 19: 12
    +6
    "If we lose the war in the air, we will lose the war altogether and lose it quickly."
    Bernard L. Montgomery
    Since then, little has changed, only the flying devices have changed, the Armenians are clearly losing the air.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 October 2020 19: 13
    -5
    This is a war crime ": in Yerevan they spoke about the shelling of Stepanakert, Azerbaijan showed strikes on enemy positions
    Yes, corn to help them, in terms of cobs, in terms of success, and this is how the showdown between our own pours out ... And we must harness ... From the beginning, build up later, but not before ...
  • yfast
    yfast 28 October 2020 19: 14
    -3
    Quote: fn34440
    The NKR Ministry of Defense does not disclose exact data, but according to Russian military analytical sources, the ANKR lost in a month of battles ...

    One Faina told another Faina, and called herself "Russian military analytical source."
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 28 October 2020 19: 29
      +3
      "One Faina said to another Faina, ......."
      yfast (yu) -forgive g-di! for the native language.
      Let's listen to you. Your extraordinary informational nihilism will undoubtedly beat my paltry awareness.
  • deniso
    deniso 28 October 2020 19: 17
    +3
    We are waiting for the Armenian Foreign Ministry to declare that the strikes of Armenia are war crimes!
  • Captan78
    Captan78 28 October 2020 19: 26
    +5
    Oh, how many people crumbled ... I'm sorry for the guys ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 28 October 2020 21: 04
      -2
      Quote: Captan78
      Oh, how many people crumbled ... I'm sorry for the guys ...

      We immediately warned of the unpromising nature of this adventure.
      It seems to me that the "explosions of this war" scatter these loitering ammunition over the cities and villages of Armenia and Azerbaijan, in the form of reciprocal responses for aggression.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 19: 28
    +1
    ... Representatives of the Armenian diaspora on Wednesday morning blocked traffic on the A7 motorway in southeastern France in the Isère department, during the demonstration clashes with representatives of the Turkish community took place, according to the Dauphiné Libéré newspaper. laughing Binary social and national types of weapons.

    The fuel and oxidizer were set on fire. Now they will divert the attention of the Gallic baranoos to this. While they are dying out and cross-breeding, well, the rest, as their ancestors once made genocide in Europe, will simply be cut out. She's so wild.

    And they will sit in the shipyards where some Arabs made airbases or Arian missiles. schA fraternize and start chasing yellow zheletoffs: laughing And where was the Azerbaijani diaspora at that time? laughing

     
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    1. fn34440
      fn34440 28 October 2020 19: 36
      -10 qualifying.
      "Today Armenian troops fired at the center of Barda from Smerch installations"
      It was not so bad to attack Karabakh, to engage in provocations with AN-2, for years buying up the NEWEST LETAL WEAPON of disproportionate lethal force all over the world.
      1. Alesi13
        Alesi13 28 October 2020 20: 05
        +1
        Tornado-proportional force?
      2. Bakinec
        Bakinec 28 October 2020 20: 13
        +3
        It is our sovereign right to buy weapons. We do not attack Karabakh, but liberate our territory from occupation.
        What provocations with an2. Do you work for Armenpress?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 31
          -2
          Quote: Bakinec
          We do not attack Karabakh, but liberate our territory from occupation.

          In any case, whether you take Karabakh or not (most likely you will), either UN or NATO peacekeepers will be brought in there, and the territory will be controlled by them. They will put the entire Armenian population on buses, take them out under their cover, but leave their contingent in Karabakh.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 29 October 2020 12: 46
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Bakinec
            We do not attack Karabakh, but liberate our territory from occupation.

            In any case, whether you take Karabakh or not (most likely you will), either UN or NATO peacekeepers will be brought in there, and the territory will be controlled by them. They will put the entire Armenian population on buses, take them out under their cover, but leave their contingent in Karabakh.

            They will stand on the border. Well, let them stand
    2. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 28 October 2020 19: 39
      0
      most of them don't watch or listen - the younger the less .. so don't exaggerate their influence ..
      1. Bakinec
        Bakinec 29 October 2020 01: 27
        0
        Why then my comment was deleted
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 October 2020 19: 31
    +1
    MOP
    in Yerevan, they spoke about the shelling of Stepanakert, Azerbaijan showed strikes on enemy positions
    It's time for Yerevan to remember what he did in Stepanokert before.
  • yfast
    yfast 28 October 2020 19: 35
    0
    Quote: fn34440
    Let's listen to you. Your extraordinary informational nihilism will undoubtedly beat my paltry awareness.

    More pluralism. Are you Red or White?
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    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 28 October 2020 19: 55
      +3
      RF will not help. Pashinyan will not be helped. Maybe Aliyev, Putin, Erdogan played a multi-move. There will definitely be a new president in Armenia. Pashinyan will not be forgiven for this. Look and the coup is boiling. And so they will throw Armenians, almost with impunity.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 34
        0
        Quote: Azimut
        There will definitely be a new president in Armenia. Pashinyan will not be forgiven for this. Look and the coup is boiling.

        I agree with you. He or his own will be removed, or worse.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 28 October 2020 22: 39
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          He or his own will be removed, or worse.

          Shoots himself. Two bullets in the back of the head. So those who crossed the road to Clinton, and even more so to his wife, committed suicide. lol
          And the Clintons are associated with Soros.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 29 October 2020 10: 27
            0
            Quote: Nagan
            So those who crossed the road to Clinton, and even more so to his wife, committed suicide.

            They will be issued for suicide, like the Clintons.
    2. MTN
      MTN 28 October 2020 19: 59
      -3
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      It's high time the Armenians zhahnut, all that they have, on the airdromes with Turkish F16s as compulsion to peace. Edik will bite off his ass from happiness ...

      Let's try)


      Quote: Keyser Soze
      By the way, Edik has nowhere to buy fighters and the Americans will not sell him anything.

      They perform all tasks in F16 as well. So don't worry. Plus, they collect them under license.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 19: 40
    -9
    Pashinyan fully conducted all state policy in such a way as to completely provoke Turkey into this conflict, Turkey has already entered this conflict. But the consequences for Turkey [will be] disastrous, and Erdogan is holding on. What needs to be decided for the West? In order for Turkey to get involved in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, to get completely bogged down there, and then the world community would be outraged by the Armenian genocide and would cleanse both Turkey and Azerbaijan - the Caucasus outside the jurisdiction of Russia. laughing Smart generals explained to you that if the Russian division is less than 50%, then it must be urgently disbanded. And in our case, 100% of the personnel are Azerbaijanis, this is a terrible horror. laughing
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 28 October 2020 19: 51
      +1
      The losses of the Azerbaijani army are also great - at least 3500 killed and wounded, at least 40 tanks, 50 guns and self-propelled guns, up to 10 MLRS and up to 30 UAVs of various classes. But on the scale of the Azerbaijani army, which is more than three times, and taking into account the reservists and Turkish instructors - almost five times more than the NKR army, these losses do not look critical, and against the background of military successes - and in general - moderate and justified!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 October 2020 19: 54
      -4
      There are no Turkish troops in Karabakh - to declare that "Turkey entered"
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    4. rruvim
      rruvim 28 October 2020 23: 12
      0
      Exactly! The task of the "world government" is to cleanse (dismember) Turkey. We need reasons! The only thing missing is the conflict with NATO member Greece. Turkey is doomed!
  • Smoked
    Smoked 28 October 2020 19: 47
    +2
    There, on the Azeri channel about 10 minutes ago, a new video was posted. They banged once on the greenery where the infantry had accumulated, how many they killed the rest and gave the dyor to their positions. They were accompanied, slightly urged on again, banging from behind and waiting until they reached the fortifications, accumulated at the building and finished them off there. IMHO that's all, finish.
    1. MTN
      MTN 28 October 2020 20: 16
      -1
      Quote: Smoked
      There, on the Azeri channel about 10 minutes ago, a new video was posted.

      Are you talking about this video?
      https://video.azertag.az/ru/video/105727

      but drones talked. there was no goal in sight. Pashinyan wanted to make a counter attack with these.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 28 October 2020 20: 29
      -4
      This is an episode - in unfamiliar mountains, the advancing side is always not sweet
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 19: 51
    -1
    Nothing new, nothing personal

    * Every nation deserves that ruler. who has It *, N.M.

    1. Street democracy does not lead to good.

    add. not knowing the alignment. You know better - but a repeated Genocide, you are for sure. will not survive.

    Best regards, Optimist, laughing
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  • Otshelnik
    Otshelnik 28 October 2020 19: 53
    -5
    But this is quite interesting) https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=708859469724143&id=167872127156216
    1. MTN
      MTN 28 October 2020 20: 07
      -3
      Quote: Otshelnik
      But this is quite interesting) https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=708859469724143&id=167872127156216

      what is there? face does not open.
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 28 October 2020 20: 41
        0
        Ours hacked theirs and got the lists of the dead they identified ... 5500 blind man's buffs ..
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 19: 57
    -3
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    It's high time the Armenians zhahnut, all that they have, on the airdromes with Turkish F16s as compulsion to peace. Edik will bite off his ass from happiness ... laughing

    By the way, Edik has nowhere to buy fighters and the Americans will not sell him anything. And his F35 fly to Greece. The deal has already been signed. The Greeks bought it so well - Rafali, upgrading the 80 F16 to the Block 70 standard and now the F35 squadron.

    Right now they are zhahnut right from the mountains ..... the fearless mountain "eagles" as soon as they are now ... laughing
  • maktub
    maktub 28 October 2020 19: 58
    +1
    Where can a simple fighter go, except to spread out and hope that the operator does not consider you a priority target
    Although the purpose of such videos is understandable - to intimidate and create an "illusion" of defenselessness
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 October 2020 20: 21
      0
      And it really in such conditions will be overwhelming.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 28 October 2020 19: 59
    +3
    The topic of local residents is not much raised here, that's who ended up between two fires. Sorry for people!
    1. Smoked
      Smoked 28 October 2020 20: 05
      +3
      Russian liberals, discussing the Second World War, voice the opinion that Leningrad should have been surrendered to the Germans in order to avoid casualties during the siege, but they, for some reason, now, do not say this for the same Stepanakert.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 28 October 2020 20: 06
        +4
        That's why they are liberals, they only scratch languages!
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 28 October 2020 20: 41
        +7
        Quote: Smoked
        Russian liberals, discussing the Second World War, voice the opinion that Leningrad should have been surrendered to the Germans in order to avoid casualties during the siege

        Here, this "pretty" (let's not insult the horse) singer from the Dozhd choir spat in the souls of those who survived and those who were willingly ready to die but not surrender in besieged Leningrad.

        1. Professor
          Professor 28 October 2020 21: 25
          -8
          Quote: Terenin
          Here, this "pretty" (let's not insult the horse) singer from the Dozhd choir spat in the souls of those who survived and those who were willingly ready to die but not surrender in besieged Leningrad.

          There was no such thing. He asked a legitimate question whether it was worth keeping Leningrad or whether it was worth retreating in order to save thousands of lives. There is no crime in the discussion.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 28 October 2020 23: 01
            +4
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: Terenin
            Here, this "pretty" (let's not insult the horse) singer from the Dozhd choir spat in the souls of those who survived and those who were willingly ready to die but not surrender in besieged Leningrad.

            There was no such thing.
            What was not "this"? Or, as always - "not to admit, deny, accuse."

            Quote: Professor
            Was asked a legitimate question
            Legitimate from your point of view. With ours - provocative.

            Quote: Professor
            was it worth keeping Leningrad or was it retreat to save thousands of lives.
            So it is - to surrender the city and condemn everyone to destruction on the orders of Hitler fool And Turkey and Japan entering the war against the USSR ...
            Professor, already, together with Sobchak, is tolerance over the edge?
            Hitler: "To wipe out Leningrad from the face of the earth." Based on archival documents and fundamental research by historians of Russia and Germany.

            Quote: Professor
            There is no crime in the discussion.
            Think one is familiar with the Overton Window?
            1. Professor
              Professor 28 October 2020 23: 27
              -1
              Quote: Terenin
              What was not "this"? Or, as always - "not to admit, deny, accuse."

              Let's quote on Sobchak. An exact quote.

              Quote: Terenin
              Legitimate from your point of view. With ours - provocative.

              Is this a holy cow? Are Dzhugashvilka's solutions non-negotiable?

              Quote: Terenin
              So it is - to surrender the city and condemn everyone to destruction on the orders of Hitler And Turkey and Japan entering the war against the USSR ...
              Professor, already, together with Sobchak, is tolerance over the edge?
              Hitler: "To wipe out Leningrad from the face of the earth." Based on archival documents and fundamental research by historians of Russia and Germany.

              1. All residents of Voronezh were destroyed? Rostov?
              2. Tolerance is not alien to me, but in this case we are discussing military actions from a historical point of view and they have nothing to do with tolerance.
              3. Let's link to Hitler. Where and when did he say that?
    2. Oprichnik
      Oprichnik 28 October 2020 23: 07
      -2
      There were few Armenians in Karabakh since They understood that these were foreign lands, which could be lost or would have to be given away, so they did not populate them, they did not develop many mines, and now a lot has escaped, so there are not many of them left.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 20: 00
    -6
    Quote: fn34440
    The losses of the Azerbaijani army are also great - at least 3500 killed and wounded, at least 40 tanks, 50 guns and self-propelled guns, up to 10 MLRS and up to 30 UAVs of various classes. But on the scale of the Azerbaijani army, which is more than three times, and taking into account the reservists and Turkish instructors - almost five times more than the NKR army, these losses do not look critical, and against the background of military successes - and in general - moderate and justified!

    Well, you know better laughing for from the Armenians that the Azerbaijanis are soldiers like a bullet.
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 28 October 2020 20: 16
      -2
      "Well, you know better l because from the Armenians that the Azerbaijanis are soldiers like a g ... A bullet."
      You can’t be a cynic and through your lip, chewing on popcorn, “spew your lousy opinion.
      You have forgotten 1941-1942, when you surrendered in millions, died in millions.
      In reality, if the "Lachin corridor" is blocked, cut off from the greater Armenia, in the coming winter, Nagorno-Karabakh will find itself in a catastrophic situation. At the same time, the Azerbaijani army will have the main advantage - air superiority, which will allow it to unhindered and methodically turn the encircled republic into a dead zone, destroying not only military targets, but also social and economic infrastructure. The Masada fortress from Karabakh may not work.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 40
        0
        Quote: fn34440
        The Masada fortress from Karabakh may not work.

        In any case and whatever the outcome will not work.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 20: 08
    -1
    The surrender of Karabakh will happen regardless of Russia's actions. If not this year, then in 10 years. Banal demography.

    But in order for Armenia to fly out of the cage of countries controlled by the United States, it is necessary that the documents be signed specifically and precisely by Pashinyan.

    Well, or Sargsyan, if Pashinyan dies in a terrorist attack ... that's please, this option suits Russia too. The main thing is that Pashinyan must clearly understand that resigning alive, without signing these papers, does not shine for him ... and that's it. Eared must leave !!! then maybe we'll throw in cartridges ... if anyone remains ... laughing



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    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2020 21: 42
      -3
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Well, or Sargsyan, if Pashinyan dies in a terrorist attack ... that's please, this option suits Russia too. The main thing is that Pashinyan must clearly understand that resigning alive, without signing these papers, will not shine for him ... that's all.
      The first thing that will happen if the Azerbaijanis enter Karabakh is the mass exodus of Armenians from Karabakh to Armenia. This flight will be accompanied by a massacre that the Azerbaijani-Turkish forces will arrange for the Armenians. Pashinyan will face a dilemma - to hit Azerbaijan with Iskander missiles near the Mengechivir power plant and reservoir and go to The Hague in handcuffs or lose the war with the guarantee of being overthrown and possibly even executed by some radicals.
      1. Rubina
        Rubina 28 October 2020 22: 46
        +2
        Lord, how tired you are with your song about the future massacre of “unfortunate Armenians”. I will not talk about ethics and morality. I will appeal to common sense. We are Azerbaijanis -? Or have we forgotten what we did to Serbia for the massacre of the Albanians? In the internet age? When the slightest step is recorded on the phone and immediately merged into the network?
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 28 October 2020 23: 32
          +1
          Quote: Rubina
          forgot what they did to Serbia for the massacre of the Albanians? In the internet age?

          Have you forgotten the "favorite" phrase of American presidents? "Yes, this one is a bastard! But this is our bastard!" ...
          A well-known story: 1. A mine was fired at the bazaar on a weekend ... a lot of people died! The Serbs were accused and the NATO aircraft bombarded the Serbian positions with cluster bombs! Later it turned out that the mine was "Muslim"! But who already needed it? Why investigate? The main thing was done ... the Serbian offensive was thwarted !! 2. "The world community" was shown a "bunch" of "peaceful Albanian peasants shot by the Serbian army"! NATO aircraft dealt a powerful blow to the positions of the Serbian army ... Later, one journalist from the European Union came forward with an investigation ...: she argued that the Serbs were right, claiming that they were Albanian militants! (1.the wounds on the body did not correspond to the "holes" on the clothes / civilian clothes were obviously worn after death ...; 2.on the right shoulder - blisters ... well ... who already needed it? The main thing was done - the Serbian army left Kosovo! Double politics, double standards are the main tool of the "world players"! And you squeezed into the VO page with some vague statements about omniscience, "fairness" of the Internet!
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 October 2020 10: 14
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          Quote: Rubina
          Lord, how tired you are with your song about the future massacre of “unfortunate Armenians”.

          Do not blaspheme. Let me remind those who do not know, but most likely pretend not to know about the atrocities that took place on February 29, 1988 in Sumgait, and on January 13, 1990, mass pogroms of the indigenous Armenian population began in the capital of Azerbaijan-USSR. Several thousand brutal supporters of the Popular Front of Azerbaijan, which was striving for power, staged mass pogroms in Baku on ethnic grounds, Armenians and Russians. Photo frames are cruel and will not work, but here is a simple unremarkable photo in Baku. My neighbor from Baku is an Azerbaijani, my wife from Vaskelov near St. Petersburg with a 12-year-old child barely escaped from that meat grinder.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 20: 12
    +1
    Well, you've already lost everything. All we could have lost. There is still a patch around Lake Sevan, but it can soon be lost due to their own stupidity, cowardice, lies and arrogance. In principle, everything goes on a knurled one. It was hard to expect anything else. Armenia has long looked more like its own gravedigger than a mature state formation. As a state, they did not take place.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 28 October 2020 20: 23
    -2
    But why don't you write about the barbaric shelling of Barda by the Armenians? Doesn't the editorial board policy allow?)

    There are children among those killed in Barda 28.10.20.
    "There are children among the dead and wounded as a result of Armenia's missile attack on the Azerbaijani city of Barda," said Aliyar Sarvarov, head physician of the Barda District Central Hospital.
    According to the doctor, about 40 wounded have been admitted to the hospital so far: "The condition of most of the wounded is grave. Among the wounded are children aged 15-16, including a 16-year-old teenager who received a severe shrapnel wound in the chest area. Unfortunately, it was not possible. At the moment, all doctors fighting for the lives of victims at work. "
    It should be noted that as a result of today's missile strike of Armenia on Barda 21 civilians were killed and about 70 wounded. "
    Source: https://haqqin.az/news/192629

    The latest situation on the territory of the Armenian terror in Barda (VIDEO)
    https://www.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3325318.html
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 20: 24
    -2
    Quote: fn34440
    "Well, you know better l because from the Armenians that the Azerbaijanis are soldiers like a g ... A bullet."
    You can’t be a cynic and through your lip, chewing on popcorn, “spew your lousy opinion.
    You have forgotten 1941-1942, when you surrendered in millions, died in millions.
    In reality, if the "Lachin corridor" is blocked, cut off from the greater Armenia, in the coming winter, Nagorno-Karabakh will find itself in a catastrophic situation. At the same time, the Azerbaijani army will have the main advantage - air superiority, which will allow it to unhindered and methodically turn the encircled republic into a dead zone, destroying not only military targets, but also social and economic infrastructure. The Masada fortress from Karabakh may not work.

    More details about "millions of" surrendered "please laughingYou are a connoisseur of "the history of the Second World War, a connoisseur of that laughing
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 28 October 2020 20: 25
    -3
    Again, this is an illegal furious name of the Partzah?)) It is strange that it is impossible to write this name in the commentary (auto-moderation does not skip), and the author of the article is free to write anything)) Some kind of nonsense. Nothing that N. Pashinyan himself calls the region in an interview with foreign media, as it should be - Karabakh.
    Can you write down how many "died" as a result of the raid on Khankendi (Stepanakert)? Better yet, show it if you find it ...
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 October 2020 20: 36
    -2
    The Turks have already been hinted. As soon as their militants were spotted in Karabakh, the "unknown aviation" attached a base of looted oil near the border with Turkey, which the Turks desperately need, and then trampled on the militants gathered for the formation, sending more than 150 snouts to the gates of Peter, among them there were many field commanders. If someone does not understand the hint, then the hints will go even fatter. Do the Turks need it? Let's take a look. laughing
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 28 October 2020 22: 17
      -1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      If someone does not understand the hint, then the hints will go even fatter

      And the Turks have already seen that no one will go anywhere further. Therefore, in fact, they decided that it was possible to be impudent.
  • Andrei Samsonov
    Andrei Samsonov 28 October 2020 21: 03
    +1
    Everything is predictable, what kind of wars and losses are, you need to want to win, and not dump at the first turns. For Karabakh khan it is for sure who will have time to dump will survive, and Armenia, as a state, destroyed itself, what kind of rulers they wanted and received, apparently they forgot about their great ancestors. Sold for hamburgers, and sold their homeland.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 28 October 2020 22: 14
      0
      Quote: Andrey Samsonov
      apparently forgot about the great ancestors

      Who are you talking about?
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 28 October 2020 21: 20
    +3
    Quote: MTN
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    By the way, Edik has nowhere to buy fighters and the Americans will not sell him anything.

    They perform all tasks in F16 as well. So don't worry. Plus, they collect them under license.
    They collect, but do not produce, and these are two very big differences. Bayraktar TV2 was also essentially collected and collected. Even small Armenia, never a NATO member, a dwarf state with ZERO influence, was able to disrupt the supply of critical components and that's it, there is no longer "production" of UAVs either for itself or for the side, including Azerbaijan, who needs such a military-industrial complex and its products?
    In a way, Azerbaijan was lucky and it turned out to be on hand that the authoritarian Aliyev is in power, striving for his power and thereby preserving the sovereignty of the republic. Releasing a lot of compliments to the Turks, despite this, Aliyev built the military-industrial complex independent, not relying on the Turks you adore so much, and did not dance to Erdogan's tune, especially when the latter quarreled with Israel with his Islamist tricks. That is why your military-industrial complex is now quietly and calmly riveting Israeli patrolling ammunition under license, hiding behind the hype around Bayraktar, and is not blowing. The same goes for the rest of the weapons.
    Do not consider it arrogance, but you and your fellow countryman, would like to learn from your own president and sing less odes to the Turks, all the more there is something, you can even skat, be proud of hi Frankly speaking, I did not have a very high opinion of him, but now, aside from the contradictions of his policy and our interests, I see that in fact he did a great job and approached many things wisely, pragmatically.
    1. Rubina
      Rubina 28 October 2020 22: 52
      +1
      Thanks. Yes, he turned out to be a worthy son of his father. But we must pay tribute to the father. It was Heydar Aliyev who drew up a detailed long-term program.
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    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 28 October 2020 21: 44
      0
      They are building their own plane TF-X. Problems can only be with the engines, they have everything else.
    2. Liam
      Liam 28 October 2020 21: 47
      -3
      Quote: Old26
      for Turkey to withdraw from NATO with all the ensuing consequences -

      And what are the consequences of Turkey's withdrawal from NATO?. Nedosultan arranges problems for the entire region, including NATO members, and is opposed to being thrown out of there. Turkey has long been a foreign object in NATO and after the end of the Cold War its stay there has lost all meaning
  • Homeland
    Homeland 28 October 2020 21: 47
    +2
    When Pashinyan promises a new counterattack, he means an attack on the civilian population. For the other, he lacks one place.
  • Roskar
    Roskar 28 October 2020 22: 32
    +2
    Pashinyan does not accept the bodies of the dead Armenian soldiers. It was decided to unilaterally transfer the bodies of the dead Armenian servicemen to Armenia. Plus there are two more civilians. These are elderly people whom we also transmit. And yesterday we tried to do it. We sent them by cars towards the border. We connected the OSCE office, connected the Red Cross. But the Armenian side does not accept them. You see, it does not accept its victims! Well, what's this in general, how to comment on this? What norms of human morality does this include? So we will pass it anyway. Now the issue of transferring their civilians and those killed through the territory of Georgia is being worked out .. That is with whom we are fighting, you know. Everyone should understand this. And all their deceitful, whiny assurances. Their moaning, their crying, all these are crocodile tears. We know them well. Therefore, the Russian public should not be deceived by this lie and slander. Yes, of course, they have integrated deeply into the structures of the Russian Federation. But not only. Both in France and in America. They are in the media, they sometimes create a public background. But people must understand who we are fighting with and understand that we are right. We are fighting on our land, they are dying on our land. "
  • Roskar
    Roskar 28 October 2020 22: 34
    0
    Human Rights Watch Goes to Barda TO INVESTIGATE ARMENIAN CRIMES
    21:25

    Experts of the international human rights organization Human Rights Watch will come to Azerbaijan to investigate the shelling of settlements by the Armenian military. The head of the regional office of HRW said this to the BBC Azerbaijan Service.
  • Clear
    Clear 28 October 2020 22: 37
    +2
    spoke about the shelling of Stepanakert, Azerbaijan showed strikes on enemy positions
    Another day of murder, grief and misery. Enough!
    1. Roskar
      Roskar 28 October 2020 22: 46
      0
      It's much more complicated here. Your words Enough won't work. Azerbaijan does not agree. If the position of Azerbaijan was clear, it can be understood as follows: When Nazi Germany seized vast territories of the USSR and someone from the outside said ENOUGH time to reconcile as the people would look at it, the same picture for Azerbaijan today is this Patriotic War of Liberation.
      1. Clear
        Clear 28 October 2020 23: 26
        +3
        Quote: ROskar
        The same picture is for Azerbaijan today, this Patriotic War of Liberation.

        Are you sure that May 45 is near? And with what allies will you celebrate it?
  • Roskar
    Roskar 28 October 2020 22: 42
    +2
    Maksim Shevchenko: Yerevan deliberately attacks civilians so that the conflict in Karabakh goes beyond the region
    The shelling of the peaceful Azerbaijani city of Barda by the Armenian armed forces is a war crime.

    About this Info24 was told by journalist Maxim Shevchenko. In his words, Yerevan deliberately attacks the civilian population so that the conflict in Karabakh goes beyond the confrontation between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Baku will react to the next attack by completely liberating Nagorno-Karabakh from the occupation forces.

    “Complete liberation of the occupied territories and the expulsion of the enemy's armed forces. Here is a fair answer that may follow from Azerbaijan, ”he said.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 28 October 2020 23: 39
    0
    Quote: ROskar
    Human Rights Watch Goes to Barda TO INVESTIGATE ARMENIAN CRIMES
    21:25

    Experts of the international human rights organization Human Rights Watch will come to Azerbaijan to investigate the shelling of settlements by the Armenian military. The head of the regional office of HRW said this to the BBC Azerbaijan Service.

    Apparently, other control centers received, literally the other day they accused Azerbaijan and began to drown it little by little.
  • dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 28 October 2020 23: 42
    -1
    Literally just from MinVod, an IL-76 took off (recognized by sound, and Flytradar confirmed) Atlantis to Yerevan. They are bringing something interesting. But for some reason, the image of the board with our flag. True, why bother - they are all Russians ...
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 29 October 2020 00: 00
    -1
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    They are building their own plane TF-X. Problems can only be with the engines, they have everything else.

    You are all strange people ... because you are very naive. China, with its experience, still cannot create an aircraft engine for its fighters. Where does he get it from Turkey, which is unable to produce an engine even for a helicopter, and even more so against the backdrop of Erdogan's policy? The only source in such conditions is our UEC, but even here technologies will not be transferred, only finished products.
    And most likely our Su-35s will be assembled on the same line where the F-16s were riveted yesterday.
    The independent production of a fighter, especially the 5th generation, is not something that is an impossible task for Turkey, simply unsolvable, but with the "world on a line to Erdogan's trousers", the so-called international cooperation, we can clearly see how the simplest Bayraktar ends. It's okay to stay with the UAV at a broken trough, but if this happened to a multifunctional fighter, it would be colossal damage and undermining the defense. Turkey has a very weak air defense and fighters are a very important link in its support; to remain without a fighter means to remain defenseless.
    You can love Turkey, run around with it like a written sack, you can idolize Erdogan if your native Azerbaijan and its president did not please you, but believe in fairy tales less, be more pragmatic.
    Think about the simplest and most obvious, even then the Su-57 program is slipping with us, and just because of the engine, and this is with our experience and manufacturers. Just before this next war, officers of your Air Force came to us, watched and flew around the cars. Plus, you tried to find approaches to acquire Eurofighter, after the end of the war, most likely there will be no obstacles. So choose between Su and Eurofighter and do not fool and do not bother yourself with Turkish propaganda.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 29 October 2020 00: 13
      +1
      Quote: Azimuth
      Where does he get it from Turkey, which is unable to produce an engine even for a helicopter, and even more so against the backdrop of Erdogan's policy?

      For engines there are 3 variants licensed copies of F110 or EJ200, then an engine jointly created with the British. For UAVs, they can produce all the components themselves, a minimum of problems.
      Everything else is your imagination.
  • certero
    certero 29 October 2020 00: 09
    +1
    Quote: tihonmarine
    there will be no winners in this war

    Why invent? In any war there is a winner and there is a loser.
    Well, there are, of course, exceptions like the Iran-Iraq war, when in 8 years not a damn thing was decided.
    and in this conflict it is very clearly shown that if Azerbaijan returns back the territories that have been squeezed from it, then it will be the winner.
  • certero
    certero 29 October 2020 00: 10
    +2
    It turns out that no means of electronic warfare by the drone interfere
    1. Arabfun
      Arabfun 29 October 2020 02: 38
      +1
      Most importantly, say the numerous American facilities in Armenia are safe
  • Old26
    Old26 29 October 2020 01: 07
    +3
    Quote: denis obuckov
    Why drag ammunition on a UAV? When with the help of a UAV it is possible to direct the same "Smerch" with a new missile and accurately hit targets within 100 km.
    https://youtu.be/qCZ2sRJqIzM

    Even if you need to cover a trench with a machine-gun crew or an ATGM crew? A "tornado" in such a trench is the same as from a cannon to sparrows
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 29 October 2020 09: 51
    -1
    Quote: Clear
    ... Measures were taken to reduce the role of the Russian language, Russian TV channels were ousted from the local information space


    This is now happening in many of the former republics of the USSR.
    And our government diligently brings hordes of migrants to Russia. Now they will also be paid pensions from our taxes.
    A New Yoke is coming, and the Russians will again pay tribute to the Asians.

    https://m.tsargrad.tv/shows/dan-mongolskomu-igu-russkie-pensii-otdadut-migrantam-a-nam-povysjat-pensionnyj-vozrast_293064
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 29 October 2020 09: 54
    -1
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    Quote: Azimuth
    Where does he get it from Turkey, which is unable to produce an engine even for a helicopter, and even more so against the backdrop of Erdogan's policy?

    For engines there are 3 variants licensed copies of F110 or EJ200, then an engine jointly created with the British. For UAVs, they can produce all the components themselves, a minimum of problems.
    Everything else is your imagination.

    You are comparing UAVs, if you compare in terms of technology, then a toy from a model aircraft mug and a 5th generation fighter. I insist that the Turks cannot at the moment completely independently produce the UAV Bayraktar TV2, I do not read either the "Soviet", let alone the Turkish press in the morning hi
    If they had the ability to produce an engine similar to the Austrian ROTAX, they would have produced it long ago. The Turks have a good trait in this regard, everything that is not even completely close in quality and resource, domestic is immediately introduced, but when there is no domestic, or the quality and resource are very low, the Turks simply have no way out and they acquire foreign.

    You can easily produce Israeli UAVs by localizing them 100% if necessary. I cannot understand your personal zealous attitude and naive belief in the Turkish military-industrial complex, when there is its own military-industrial complex and opportunities? In my opinion, this is still a gap between Aliyev and your authorities, many of you and you are a vivid confirmation of this, did not get rid of colonial thinking.
    I can only advise you once again to take your president as an example. Despite the excellent relations with Turkey, your country, under his leadership, bought the best available to it and was quite pragmatic about the choice of weapons and equipment, and of course the supplier. After all, much of what you purchased from other countries is also produced by Turkey, but your side preferred either the best, or tried and tested. A simple example, you bought the Smerch MLRS, have the Tochka-U OTRK in service, bought the Kasyrga MLRS (Chinese license) from the Turks, but bought the MLRS Laura and Polonaise from Israel and Belarus, although the Turks have their analogues. Or, for example, MRAP, they bought the proven South African Marader and Mbombe from a manufacturer with vast experience, and not Turkish Kirpi. We bought 2S19 Msta from us and Dana from the Czech Republic, without sitting and waiting for the Turks with their promises to localize the engine, etc.
    In a word, your authorities have a balanced and pragmatic approach, and you and your fellow countrymen have turkophilia.

    And again, about the 5th generation fighter - please do not write nonsense. There is no "licensed production" of aircraft engines, especially the level designed for a 5th generation fighter, and no country in the world that has such technologies will ever transfer them either to Turkey or to anyone else. It is not without reason that your leadership gave preference to the Italian M-346, and not our Yak-130, and even more so it does not fool itself with the project of the Turkish UBS. Apparently, the plans and schedules took into account the real conflict and its solution, that is, again, a thoughtful approach, long-term planning and implementation of plans are evident. You will receive M-346 next year, when there will be no more restrictions due to Karabakh, by the way, it was already clear when the start of hostilities was planned and it was unlikely that it was a secret for Armenia, the war is a serious matter and preparation cannot be hidden by and large ... And since they chose a European UBS, and this is not decided from the end, then with a high probability a European fighter will follow.

    On the topic, my condolences to you and your fellow countrymen in connection with the death of 21 civilians and dozens of wounded in Barda. Of course, the most difficult thing is the death of children, they have no religion or nationality, they are just children, even yours, even Armenian.
  • Maximilian37
    Maximilian37 29 October 2020 11: 53
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    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    I don’t know about Karabakh, it’s not so simple with it, and of course it is necessary to return the seven regions occupied by Armenia. As for the Lachin corridor, it must have a secure status, under international control, since you cannot come to an agreement with the Armenians.


    They will never live peacefully and this is not about territorial claims. They are taught from childhood to hate each other. Azerbaijanis + Turks, dream of repeating 1915, and Armenians in 1993. So the massacre!
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 October 2020 13: 33
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Well, or Sargsyan, if Pashinyan dies in a terrorist attack ... that's please, this option suits Russia too. The main thing is that Pashinyan must clearly understand that resigning alive, without signing these papers, will not shine for him ... that's all.
    The first thing that will happen if the Azerbaijanis enter Karabakh is the mass exodus of Armenians from Karabakh to Armenia. This flight will be accompanied by a massacre that the Azerbaijani-Turkish forces will arrange for the Armenians. Pashinyan will face a dilemma - to hit Azerbaijan with Iskander missiles near the Mengechivir power plant and reservoir and go to The Hague in handcuffs or lose the war with the guarantee of being overthrown and possibly even executed by some radicals.

    Remind you how the Armenians robbed and killed Muslims in 1915? Take an interest and read how these "innocent victims" shot in the back of the soldiers of the Russian Imperial Army.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 30 October 2020 16: 22
      -1
      Take an interest and read how these "innocent victims" shot in the back of the soldiers of the Russian Imperial Army.
      So let's also remember how Muscovites from the time of Ivan the Terrible killed Novgorodians !!! - what is not a reason to pay even now ??? So reasoning all the peoples can destroy each other in the former Soviet space !!!
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 October 2020 13: 37
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Rubina
    Lord, how tired you are with your song about the future massacre of “unfortunate Armenians”.

    Do not blaspheme. Let me remind those who do not know, but most likely pretend not to know about the atrocities that took place on February 29, 1988 in Sumgait, and on January 13, 1990, mass pogroms of the indigenous Armenian population began in the capital of Azerbaijan-USSR. Several thousand brutal supporters of the Popular Front of Azerbaijan, which was striving for power, staged mass pogroms in Baku on ethnic grounds, Armenians and Russians. Photo frames are cruel and will not work, but here is a simple unremarkable photo in Baku. My neighbor from Baku is an Azerbaijani, my wife from Vaskelov near St. Petersburg with a 12-year-old child barely escaped from that meat grinder.

    And then they cut the Russians laughing