Turkey imposes military cooperation on Central Asian countries

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Turkey imposes military cooperation on Central Asian countries

Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar made a number of planned visits to the countries of Central Asia. The main purpose of the trip is to strengthen and expand cooperation in the military sphere.

The head of the Turkish military department, having visited Pakistan, went to Kazakhstan, where he met with the minister of defense of the republic, Nurlan Yermekbayev. As reported, during the meeting, the parties agreed to further expand military-technical cooperation. Nur Sultan called Ankara a strategic partner.



We discussed issues related to the further expansion of cooperation in the field of defense between our countries. Since there is a very close dialogue and cooperation between the heads of our states at the presidential level, our work was quite easy

- Akar said following the meeting, adding that meetings are also planned with the Minister of Industry and Infrastructure Development, where issues of cooperation in the field of defense cooperation will be discussed.

According to the Kazakh Minister of Defense, Türkiye is a strategic partner of Kazakhstan. A number of agreements have been signed between the countries in the military sphere, including on the mutual protection of classified information.

After negotiations in Kazakhstan, the Turkish Defense Minister arrived in Uzbekistan, where he held meetings with Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev and Defense Minister Bahodir Kurbanov.

The main topic of the talks was also the state and prospects of military and military-technical cooperation between the two countries. The parties agreed on the implementation of programs in the field of training military personnel, establishing contacts between specialized universities, and exchanging experience in the training of military units.

Relations between Turkey and Uzbekistan are based on a centuries-old commonality stories, Ankara attaches special importance to this. Ankara seeks to deepen relations with Tashkent in all areas. This includes trade, economic, social and political aspects and, of course, defense interaction. We have made significant progress

- said the head of the Turkish Ministry of Defense.

The result of the meeting between the Ministers of Defense of Turkey and Uzbekistan was the signing of an agreement on the development of military and military-technical cooperation between Uzbekistan and Turkey.
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  1. +2
    28 October 2020 08: 33
    Pan-Turkism is not new, no matter how his ass is torn
    1. +13
      28 October 2020 08: 39
      They work for the good of their country, our officials also need to visit their neighbors more often so as not to call!
      1. +2
        28 October 2020 08: 50
        You don't have to run around/take care of them.
        Russia is regaining the status of a leader in the military sphere.
        Should return the status of a leader in the economy.
        Only then "all the flags will visit us."
        1. +9
          28 October 2020 09: 15
          Quote: Livonetc
          Should return the status of a leader in the economy.

          In which fairy tale did you read about leadership in the economy?
          There is nothing to return.
          There has never been leadership in the economy from the word at all.

          Need to create.
          And create an economy for a person, not for the dough.
          1. +4
            28 October 2020 09: 17
            Do you think that the USSR was not one of the leaders of the world economy?
            Yes, and the Russian Empire, for example, in industrial production was in fourth position.
            1. +9
              28 October 2020 10: 26
              Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar made a number of planned visits to the countries of Central Asia. The main purpose of the trip is to strengthen and expand cooperation in the military sphere.
              - According to the Kazakh Minister of Defense, Türkiye is a strategic partner of Kazakhstan.A number of agreements have been signed between the countries in the military sphere,
              - The result of the meeting between the Ministers of Defense of Turkey and Uzbekistan was the signing of an agreement on the development of military and military-technical cooperation between Uzbekistan and Turkey.

              Don't wait Russia in terms of keeping the peace there is nothing good from the military cooperation of Turkey with Kazakhstan and Turkey with Uzbekistan!
              Erdogan is the new radical Islamist Turkish-Nazi Fuhrer, like Hitler with his Third Reich, with his ruling war party in Turkey.
          2. +3
            28 October 2020 11: 10
            In which fairy tale did you read about leadership in the economy?
            There is nothing to return.

            With its economic breakthrough, the USSR has quite caught up with the leading capitalist economies. Not for long unfortunately.
        2. +7
          28 October 2020 09: 32
          Quote: Livonetc
          You don't have to run around/take care of them.

          I don’t understand why so much causeless swaggering arrogance? We will not care - the girl will be danced by others. Well, you were crucifying here that "Syria is needed", but Central Asia, therefore, is not? "They will come running"?
          1. +11
            28 October 2020 09: 55
            You need market access.
            We need economic ties.
            Neighborly relations are essential.
            We also need the countries of Central Asia and Türkiye and Iran.
            Only these ties need to be formed by competent foreign policy and economic activity, and not by distributing unjustified loans and chattering about great friendship.
          2. 0
            28 October 2020 13: 27
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            We will not look after - others will dance the girl.

            It's not Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan who went to Turkey, but they went to them. Well, they signed, talked, declared, but what specific agreements?
        3. +7
          28 October 2020 12: 02
          Quote: Livonetc
          Russia is regaining the status of a leader in the military sphere.
          Should return the status of a leader in the economy.

          Return respect for the Russians in their country and finally return all Russians to their homeland. And this is not yet visible. And others see it. How can there be respect for a country that does not respect one of the most fundamental ethnic groups in the country? And what kind of country will Russia be, in which Russians are not visible? Believe me, from the side they are watching this carefully. hi
          1. +1
            28 October 2020 13: 45
            The Russians left for a better life. This is economics first and foremost. We must first raise the economy in Russia, and then invite someone home.
            1. 0
              28 October 2020 14: 51
              Quote from Max-ttr
              The Russians left for a better life.

              Is it to Central Asia under the USSR?
              Quote from Max-ttr
              We must first raise the economy in Russia, and then invite someone home.

              This reminds me of liberal rhetoric. The Nemtsovs, Gaidars, Chubais (they always care about the economy of the Russian Federation) and others like that. It is worth looking into their biography and where are the Russians?
      2. -4
        28 October 2020 09: 40
        Quote: ASAD
        Working for the good of their country

        Um, digging a hole for your loved ones is good for you? Original thought...
      3. +10
        28 October 2020 09: 40
        Quote: ASAD
        They work for the good of their country, our officials also need to visit their neighbors more often so as not to call!
        While the Turks are working, ours are resting on the Turkish shores ... request
        1. 0
          28 October 2020 11: 52
          Quote: Misha Honest
          ours are resting on the Turkish shores ...

          If my memory serves me, one of the chiefs of the GRU even drowned in this Turkey ... Have they imposed cooperation?
          1. 0
            28 October 2020 16: 53
            - Come on! How did he get there?! They are banned for life...
      4. +6
        28 October 2020 12: 43
        "Ours" love to drive to distant warm countries. It is more comfortable to nest there. Therefore, goods are systematically moved there and catered in every possible way. To "fit in" "like clockwork".
    2. +5
      28 October 2020 09: 11
      After negotiations in Kazakhstan, the Turkish Minister of Defense arrived in Uzbekistan

      It looks like Türkiye really plans to create an army of Turan
      1. +6
        28 October 2020 09: 32
        Quote: figvam
        It looks like Türkiye really plans to create an army of Turan

        Türkiye can plan anything, but reality is important, not dreams. And the reality is there. Central Asia is China's direct interest. Moreover, China considers Central Asia not just a sphere of its interests, but simply its own territory. No army of "Turan", no matter how great, or not great, China will pull. China will soon squeeze out the disputed territories and Taiwan, and then the "sultan" decided to "poof" on the Chinese dragon, from which the American eagle is already pooping in flight?! Well-Well... Let's see. wink
        1. -9
          28 October 2020 09: 47
          Yes, let the dragon climb) we are not cold, not hot from him)
          1. 0
            28 October 2020 09: 48
            Quote: hydroy
            Yes, let the dragon climb) we are not cold, not hot from him)

            To you, to whom?
            1. 0
              28 October 2020 09: 51
              Russia, we don’t care, we are losing Central Asia, new generations are already living in their own countries, and not in the USSR)
              1. +8
                28 October 2020 09: 58
                Quote: hydroy
                Russia,

                Russia should not be "all the same." But I do not really understand the policy of the current leadership of the Russian Federation.
                Quote: hydroy
                we are losing Central Asia, new generations are already living in their own countries, and not in the USSR)

                Moreover, already lost. The CSTO is a dead organization, and how can countries that have deployed American laboratories on their territory and bow to the United States on any occasion be allies?! But this is IMHO. The leadership of the Russian Federation, apparently, has its own reasons. request
                1. -3
                  29 October 2020 11: 47
                  Yes, damn it, we have NO money for either the OKDB or the SCO, there is no MONEY !!! I'm telling you as the manager of the swiss! Let's print - it will be 120 per dollar, there is nothing to provide the ruble, especially now (when no one needs oil and gas, but ANOTHER - well, we have NOTHING !!) There are NO technologies from the word "absolutely"! When was the breakthrough in the USSR?? D-1 engine (English), Brown's rockets, Kurchatov's developments (American (German)) ... Is that all? none! He himself confessed drunk ... There are numbers - PPI, CPI, PMI, let's discuss, no - aufviderzeen ... Well, we have NOTHING !!
      2. +2
        28 October 2020 09: 46
        Quote: figvam
        It looks like Türkiye really plans to create an army of Turan

        Ta not - tse stupidly the Ottoman Empire laughing
      3. NTD
        -5
        28 October 2020 10: 44
        Quote: figvam
        It looks like Türkiye really plans to create an army of Turan

        God grant it would be faster. It will be a great block.
    3. +4
      28 October 2020 09: 49
      He carried out an advertising campaign in Karabakh, now the salesmen have gone to sell the goods.
    4. +1
      28 October 2020 10: 13
      Quote: Cowbra
      Pan-Turkism is not new,

      And this time, behind the "Turkish" project are the intellectual and organizational resources of the British Empire.
    5. 0
      28 October 2020 11: 08
      Quote: Cowbra
      Pan-Turkism is not new, no matter how his ass is torn

      The Chinese are already in charge.
      China also succeeded in military assistance to Uzbekistan. He supplied the country with small arms, mortars, cars for officials free of charge. Sergei Shoigu only proposes to organize mass training of Uzbek cadets in Russian universities and training centers, and the PRC and Tashkent have an agreement on this. It was signed during an official visit to Uzbekistan in December 2017 of a PRC delegation led by the then member of the State Council, the Minister of Defense of the PRC, Colonel General Chang Wanquan. As it turns out, China has already delivered its FD-2000 anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) (an analogue of the Russian S-300) to Uzbekistan.
      1. 0
        28 October 2020 13: 06
        So I say - no matter how the moustached ass is torn. He trampled the tails of everyone - and if they all hit the ears at once? Wash away with Turkey!
      2. +2
        28 October 2020 18: 07
        We bought the FD 2000 for money
      3. +2
        28 October 2020 18: 07
        We bought the FD 2000 for money
  2. 0
    28 October 2020 08: 38
    The Turks are making the most of the favorable situation for them at the moment. You have to give credit to the politicians.
    1. +6
      28 October 2020 08: 52
      the fact that they pissed off half the world and now they also climbed to annoy China?) something doesn’t look like the right actions at all ...
      1. -1
        28 October 2020 11: 32
        Quote: carstorm 11
        the fact that they pissed off half the world and now they also climbed to annoy China?) something doesn’t look like the right actions at all ...

        It is possible that the Turks have already agreed with China. It is not for nothing that the first point of the trip was Pakistan, a strategic ally of China.
    2. +20
      28 October 2020 09: 01
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The Turks are maximizing the benefits of the currently favorable situation for them

      Strength is respected in the East. The actions of Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan are understandable.
    3. +1
      28 October 2020 09: 21
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The Turks are making the most of the favorable situation for them at the moment. You have to give credit to the politicians.

      The Turks have an undeniable dizziness from momentary success. Which, as we know from history, often ends very badly.
      1. +1
        28 October 2020 09: 36
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        The Turks have an undeniable dizziness from momentary success.

        what kind of success?
        1. +4
          28 October 2020 09: 55
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          what kind of success?

          Apparently, they consider this to be the absence of obvious opposition to themselves in Syria, Libya, and now in Azerbaijan.
          Their drones show themselves very well, which adds to their pomposity.
        2. +1
          28 October 2020 11: 35
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          The Turks have an undeniable dizziness from momentary success.

          what kind of success?

          In Syria, the Turks created a buffer zone.
          The Kurds are pinched in the same Syria, preventing them from creating autonomy. Again, we were bent with gas, etc.
          1. -1
            28 October 2020 11: 41
            it's clear what it's about.
      2. 0
        28 October 2020 09: 37
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        The Turks have an undeniable dizziness from momentary success. Which, as we know from history, often ends very badly.

        An absolutely accurate remark, although there was no success there, even momentary.
  3. +5
    28 October 2020 08: 41
    "They impose." If the countries of Central Asia did not want this, they would not cooperate. After all, China is close at hand. That's who really imposes.
  4. +2
    28 October 2020 08: 43
    And sho, they don’t want a Turk to go to Geyrope, so he kicked up, he is building his own sphere of influence and intereses !!!
    This is NORMAL, EXPECTED, LOGICAL, in principle! another thing is that he began to build cooperation with Asia and Africa according to his own preferences and rules !!! This is where there may be an ambush or a hard way, we can’t really see it from the sofa ... let’s look at the results, because there are enough other interested people there !!!
    In general, time will tell.
    1. +2
      28 October 2020 09: 21
      He is preparing for Europe, but first he wants to create his own union ... Greetings! hi
      1. +1
        28 October 2020 09: 25
        Hi soldier
        In geyrop, in some countries, he already has his own, his own and a LOT!
        Only sales geyropa sent to be the center of the universe, it is necessary to scatter many, many vectors, especially where he has more co-religionists. Moreover, he has already elevated himself into a uniter. Nothing unexpected, by the way.
        1. +2
          28 October 2020 09: 31
          Quote: rocket757
          Hi soldier
          In geyrop, in some countries, he already has his own, his own and a LOT!


          This is putting it mildly, they are still united and are now embittered by the antics of European tolerance ...
          1. +2
            28 October 2020 09: 50
            You don't know what to expect anymore. Is it a jamaat or a sultanate??? request
            1. +3
              28 October 2020 11: 37
              So here's a picture, let's not say which city in Europe:

              1. +1
                28 October 2020 11: 40
                The black / green bandages seem to be invisible, the weapons are also not visible .... it looks like a future sultanate!
                1. +2
                  28 October 2020 11: 44
                  It seems yes, but what is better is not yet known:

                  1. +2
                    28 October 2020 12: 49
                    When at least something, too much, it's not just annoying, it's like a guide to action - it's time to trim it to reasonable, acceptable values!
                    Only to the gay Europeans it comes very slowly, although events are already almost galloping.
                    It's strange to see this.
                    1. +3
                      28 October 2020 13: 02
                      It looks like they missed all the opportunities and no one knows what will happen next ...
                      1. +2
                        28 October 2020 13: 08
                        Quote: cniza
                        It looks like they missed all the opportunities and no one knows what will happen next ...

                        In time, they overexposed, of course ... they also do it, level it, soon there will be no one at all!
                      2. +3
                        28 October 2020 13: 10
                        Yes, and Europe will soon become Muslim, we may not live to see it, but the process is unambiguous ...
                      3. +1
                        28 October 2020 13: 12
                        I thought so, maybe it's better what will happen after us?
                        Although, I don't want to substitute my descendants, followers for this ...
                      4. +2
                        28 October 2020 13: 22
                        Russia has always lived peacefully, having different confessions, Orthodoxy simply prevailed, well, that's another question ...
              2. +2
                28 October 2020 17: 04
                - Incorrect! This is a photo of Jamaat al Islami activists' action near the US embassy in Lahore, Pakistan ... 19.09. 2012. The Americans then showed some kind of movie, and these same activists considered it anti-Islamic! We are preparing arguments more carefully, gentlemen! wink
                1. +1
                  28 October 2020 17: 11
                  Maybe the Internet is not a reliable source, well then this one:

                  1. +1
                    28 October 2020 17: 22
                    - Another thing! This is Paris... laughing
  5. +4
    28 October 2020 08: 48
    Türkiye is treading a long forgotten road. And so far she's succeeded.
  6. -1
    28 October 2020 08: 49
    Erdogan still decided to frolic in the Chinese sandbox?) Apparently he has ceased to be friends with reality ...
  7. +4
    28 October 2020 08: 51
    The Turks are not conquered - oh, they are crawling, crawling. But it is specifically preparing the ground (the road to Russia) and the states, no matter what relations with the Turks are, oh, how beneficial. Turkey has long needed to be torn to pieces, to indicate its place, to start acting with pro-Western methods - a conflict from within, etc.
  8. 0
    28 October 2020 08: 54
    Great Turanchik)
  9. 0
    28 October 2020 08: 56
    Well, everything is clear) Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have problems with the growing sphere of influence of China) Russia is an "ally" to China) I wonder how the Kazakhs will then be in the CSTO and with Turkey in cooperation, in the event of a big kipish in the Middle East?)
    1. -3
      28 October 2020 10: 00
      The Kazakhs are members of the CSTO and the Turkic Council, and one does not interfere with the other. And I don’t understand jealousy. Countries should cooperate, trade, this is natural.
      1. +6
        28 October 2020 10: 08
        Should cooperate? please tell me, okay, your advice, a diplomatic and trade alliance, but military cooperation with a country that is part of the NATO bloc, how is this understood?) The military alliance should be ONE) and that's it! And no one stops diplomatic cooperation)
        1. +1
          28 October 2020 10: 14
          Turkey is a manufacturer of many weapons, equipment, etc. Why not sell to the Kazakhs or Uzbeks. Or does the CSTO prohibit them from buying something from third countries? Of course not.
          1. -1
            28 October 2020 10: 17
            A number of agreements have been signed between the countries in the military sphere, including on the mutual protection of classified information.
            I understand this is the performance characteristics of technology, most likely! Still not very beautiful) our technique is no worse
  10. -4
    28 October 2020 08: 56
    Who would doubt that!
    But this is just a hint.
  11. +1
    28 October 2020 09: 00
    The ambitions of the padishah are known.
    1. +2
      28 October 2020 09: 39
      Quote: Trojan_Wolf
      The ambitions of the padishah are known.

      Padishah, it's more likely to Iran, and here is the "sultan". wink
      1. 0
        28 October 2020 18: 14
        In Iran Shahanshah
  12. +3
    28 October 2020 09: 03
    A number of agreements have been signed between the countries in the military sphere, including on the mutual protection of classified information.

    Fine. "Sultan" has already climbed into the territory of the "CSTO" with its charter and secrets.
    It doesn't work in the Middle East, it turned to Central Asia, to the Turkic-speaking region. And this is the idea of ​​the Anglo-Saxons. The "ring of anaconda", having girded Russia from the West, climbed into Central Asia, into the southern underbelly of Russia.
    1. +1
      28 October 2020 10: 02
      Quote: askort154
      And this is the idea of ​​the Anglo-Saxons. The "Ring of the Anaconda", having encircled Russia from the West, climbed into Central Asia, into the southern underbelly of Russia.

      I wrote about this recently in the comments, just like you were downvoted. But you are right, the Anglo-Saxons climbed into Central Asia, and the Sultan received the go-ahead from them to rock these republics.
  13. +2
    28 October 2020 09: 06
    All right. Their work is like this.

    Once I read a review on the trips of Yusovtsev for a long time. The president speaks mostly at home, several times every week, the vice-president travels around the world to events.
    Hard workers though.

    We're not like that....
  14. +2
    28 October 2020 09: 08
    There it turns out. I thought why the Caspian flotilla was trolling from the Iranian shores of the barmaley in Syria. And Iran probably does not have an agreement with Turkey on the exchange of classified information.
    1. +3
      28 October 2020 09: 38
      Quote: Humpty
      There it turns out. I thought why the Caspian flotilla was trolling from the Iranian shores of the barmaley in Syria

      The range was shown ... wink
      Quote: Humpty
      And Iran probably does not have an agreement with Turkey on the exchange of classified information.

      Military-technical cooperation implies the protection of information. Kazakhstan has been cooperating with the military-industrial complex of Turkey for a long time. Now the path is being trodden to the Uzbeks. But there is one But. Merziyoev understands perfectly well that Turkey also supports the Islamists (Uzbek).
      1. +4
        28 October 2020 10: 00
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        Military-technical cooperation implies the protection of information. Kazakhstan has been cooperating with the military-industrial complex of Turkey for a long time. Now the path is being trodden to the Uzbeks. But there is one But. Merziyoev understands perfectly well that Turkey also supports the Islamists (Uzbek).

        Know that on Wed. Az. enough Turkish informants in high positions. And a joint unofficial business somewhere from Pakistan to Russia. Islamists are not quoted among Uzbeks. Akaev was offered to ferment them together, but he refused, as this interfered with the democratic choice of Kyrgyzstan.
        Now it is quietly drinking in Moscow. By the way, when he was working at the academy, he often borrowed from the bubble and did not pay off his debts. The wife took away the entire salary.
  15. +1
    28 October 2020 09: 18
    Visited countries included in the CSTO
    1. -1
      28 October 2020 09: 30
      Uzbekistan entered and left the CSTO twice) this is not very serious)
      1. +2
        28 October 2020 09: 32
        And Kazakhstan is serious!
        1. -2
          28 October 2020 09: 33
          Well, Kazakhstan will show off but)
  16. +9
    28 October 2020 09: 18
    After negotiations in Kazakhstan, the Turkish Defense Minister arrived in Uzbekistan, where he held meetings with Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev and Defense Minister Bahodir Kurbanov.


    No, Erdogan will not calm down so easily, he must be stopped ...
    1. +3
      28 October 2020 09: 34
      For many, he stepped on a favorite callus, however, there is no time for everyone, or what ??? so far, seriously, no one has shipped the answer to the mind.
      In general, it is interesting, although everything is tense. Painfully zealously, he joined us under the flank and .... he tries only for himself!
      1. +7
        28 October 2020 09: 43
        We are silent, do nothing, and here we are rushing to the breach ...
        1. +1
          28 October 2020 09: 46
          The topic is muddy ... where is whose interests, you can’t figure it out without half a liter!
          1. +2
            28 October 2020 11: 35
            There is a game going on and God forbid that we understand this game and not miss our interests...
            1. +1
              28 October 2020 11: 38
              Those who are supposed to play the "game" have, have, have a lot on their hands that we don't even know about.
              Therefore, when / if our players "sit in a puddle", it will not be very funny for us, who seem to be on the sidelines, on a mound, but we can be extreme EAST!
              1. +1
                28 October 2020 11: 40
                That's just the point, the stakes are very high and we are hostages ...
                1. +1
                  28 October 2020 11: 43
                  I would like to believe that our "players" are skilled ...... so far it does not work out, at least with a high degree of certainty. As it is not ICE, in general.
                  Boom look at the result.
                  1. +2
                    28 October 2020 11: 46
                    I always believe in the best, but even when the players turned out to be not very good, they changed them and corrected the situation...
                    1. +1
                      28 October 2020 12: 51
                      We must try, look for the skilled, but the inept one must shuffle from place to place! This will never be the case.
                      1. +1
                        28 October 2020 13: 05
                        Quote: rocket757
                        shuffle from place to place! So there will never be talk.


                        This is our biggest problem, the "deck" is already frayed, and there are very few new "cards" and they are quickly erased.
                      2. +1
                        28 October 2020 13: 10
                        Exactly, the new ones are CLEARED, they become LIKE EVERYTHING when they get into the old deck.
                        It is clear that it is dangerous to change everything at once, but if you change it partially, then leave only the most working and clean!!! About the rest of the fresh replenish gradually.
                      3. +2
                        28 October 2020 13: 20
                        That's just the point, the "cards" must go from bottom to top (you cannot become a minister without directing production), and horizontally they are overwritten very quickly ...
                      4. +1
                        28 October 2020 13: 59
                        All sorts of programs like "leaders ..", "new shift" and other different ones ... I would like to think that this is bzh well not for nothing !!! but the old, experienced STAFF have already experienced so much and rubbed it through their millstones ....
                        In short, it is hard to believe, or even not at all.
                        Again we will talk - let's see how it goes, again and again.
    2. -6
      28 October 2020 09: 36
      Well, it’s not over yet) this is just the beginning of cooperation, which is logical) Turks and Europe are other civilizations, the Turkic civilization is powerful and the only one in Central Asia) Naturally, the formation of alliances, blocs in Central Asia) That’s how Russia should be) a mystery) in 10-20 generations of the USSR will leave for years and there will be generations of the CIS, and then - more, Russia will lose its sphere of influence in Central Asia and will fight with China and Turkey for Central Asia
      1. +4
        28 October 2020 09: 58
        Quote: hydroy
        Turkic civilization is powerful and the only one in Central Asia

        there is no Turkic civilization, sorry, there are Turkic states with a completely different mentality
        1. -4
          28 October 2020 10: 19
          They are united in one civilization) the mentality is different, civilization is one, or do you think that Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are not East Slavic civilization?) The mentality of Russians and Ukrainians is different)
          1. +3
            28 October 2020 10: 29
            apparently you are not quite in the subject
            then, according to your logic, you need to add Poles, Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Montenegrins, etc. to Russian civilization.
            1. -2
              28 October 2020 11: 25
              Once again, do not underestimate the commonality of the Turkic civilization) Ask an Uzbek who his "brother" is, he will answer you that Kazakh, Turkmen, Kyrgyz, and even Tajik, but hardly Russian)
              There is civilization and yes, different mentalities, but still the Turks have a commonality, and Turkey’s plans are based on this: the unification of the Turkic peoples under the auspices of pan-Turkism: why does Turkey train officers for Uzbekistan?) and also implants its interests there)
              I repeat: do not underestimate the Turkic civilization, now it is waking up! And Türkiye awakens her)
              1. +5
                28 October 2020 12: 07
                Quote: hydroy
                Ask an Uzbek who his "brother" is, he will answer you that Kazakh, Turkmen, Kyrgyz, and even Tajik, but hardly Russian)

                yeah, especially in the border areas with Kazakhs and Kyrgyz
                Quote: hydroy
                I repeat: do not underestimate the Turkic civilization

                once again for you there is NO Turkic civilization there is a Turkic group of languages, Turkic countries and an attempt by Turkey to recreate an empire
              2. +1
                28 October 2020 16: 25
                Once again, do not underestimate the commonality of the Turkic civilization)


                We also have a common Slavic civilization .. Ask a Pole, Ukrainian and Russian - what do they think about each other?
    3. +3
      28 October 2020 09: 41
      Friendship-love has long been in Kazakhstan, if anything. Aselsan even rebuilt the small factory - KAE.




      True, they bought a squadron not of Bayraktars, and not even of TAI UAVs, but of attack WingLongs.
      1. 0
        28 October 2020 16: 34
        In addition to the exercises of peacekeepers, and there are military personnel from several countries, I do not remember joint exercises with the Turks. Dzhaksybekov (min. of defense 2009-2014) tried to carry out such, but I don’t remember that they were carried out
        In addition to KAE (night vision devices, communication systems, sights, electronic shooting stabilization systems - electrical-optical products; a little more than 100 people work), Turkish armored personnel carriers tried to establish production. But the price-quality did not satisfy the military. Now we are assembling from South Africa with Russian and our own weapons ("Utes", production has resumed).
        I read the comments and was surprised "kip". Yes, Putin and Shoigu have more contacts with Turkish colleagues compared to ours (RK and RU) - Shoigu talked with a Turkish colleague on October 13! hi
    4. +3
      28 October 2020 09: 45
      cniza ...No, Erdogan will not calm down so easily, he must be stopped ...

      Someone to stop him. He understands this and becomes even more impudent. The fact that he turned to the East is a balm for Europe and the USA. That is exactly what they need. Now only Russia, Iran, China can stop him - but this is purely theoretical.
      At least they entered into such a tripartite alliance, and this would immediately cool both Erdogan and the Anglo-Saxons. hi
    5. +2
      28 October 2020 10: 10
      People work for the good of their people, and do not bathe in the bath in the hands of beer. This is not why the voters voted for the party, which then appoints its bureaucrats. And what kind of jealousy, who holds your hand, you have to work, be better than yours competitor. Or do you think everyone should ask for permission what to do?
      1. NTD
        -4
        28 October 2020 10: 43
        Turkey is speaking. Turkic army. Sounds nice. The Turks are doing the right thing. We started with the Uzbeks. Then Kazakhstan. Turan army TO BE !!!
        1. +1
          28 October 2020 11: 28
          Hmm, well, let's see, let's see)
        2. 0
          28 October 2020 13: 51
          Quote: MTN
          Turan army TO BE !!!

          Congratulations. It remains only to buy packages.
  17. -2
    28 October 2020 09: 37
    Quote: cniza
    After negotiations in Kazakhstan, the Turkish Defense Minister arrived in Uzbekistan, where he held meetings with Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev and Defense Minister Bahodir Kurbanov.


    No, Erdogan will not calm down so easily, he must be stopped ...

    Unprofitable. Both we and the States are turning the Turks from West to East, namely to the East, where, by the way, there have never been territories of the Ottoman Empire, and we are turning with only one goal - to oppose the quiet and creeping occupation of China throughout Central Asia.
    Turkey supports the Uighurs, stepping on the sore spot of the Chinese, and acts there both through Islamism and through pan-Turkism, and this is just about Erdogan.
    Need to understand a simple thing we need China now and we can’t butt heads with him in Central Asia and spoil relations, that’s why we let a young Turkish bull go there.
    For those who don't know, let me remind you. China has already wrested part of the Soviet territory from Tajikistan by changing the borders, and this despite our base and presence. He got into Turkmenistan thoroughly both in terms of gas and in terms of military-technical cooperation. He actively invests in the same Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, penetrates more and more into Kyrgyzstan ...
    So, in general, a VERY correct policy and it is in our interests.
    1. 0
      28 October 2020 09: 41
      The policy may be correct, but how will these unions assess the Turkic-speaking peoples of Russia?)
    2. +2
      28 October 2020 09: 42
      On the one hand, the unification of the Turkic civilization, on the other, Russia will not agree to this even by launching a bull) Too much strengthening of separatism in southern Russia after the emergence of a new force ...
      1. +1
        28 October 2020 11: 02
        Quote: hydroy
        unification of the Turkic civilization,

        Do you know that Turkish pogroms took place in a number of Central Asian limitrophes? Explain the "unity of civilization" to the Turkmens with the Yakuts. In the USSR they tried, it worked a little. And who are the Turks is quite plausibly shown in films that once received an Oscar. "Lawrence of Arabia" and "Midnight Express". Previously, it was possible to make such films, now they are not allowed.
        1. 0
          28 October 2020 11: 35
          First, it is the unification in Central Asia, and the gradual liberation of the spheres of China and Russia, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia. Further - a march to the north, help Turkic-speaking in Russia - Tatars, Bashkirs, peoples of the Caucasus, then it will come to the Yakuts) there, too, not everything is simple and the Yakuts are overshadowed that having such land resources, they do not get rich very much)
          1. +1
            28 October 2020 12: 03
            Quote: hydroy
            First, it is the unification in Central Asia, and the gradual liberation of the spheres of China and Russia,

            For at least 8 years they have not been able to decide between themselves where the turan should be. In Turkey, they believe that it should be from them to Yakutia, inclusive. And in Kazakhstan they do not fully agree with this, they believe that from Altai to the White Sea. They are not a pointer to the Kirghiz, they regret the loss of their empire from Baikal to the Caspian. The Uighurs have little free time, they are retraining in China. Quietly sad at night about the loss of the coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Shantar Islands. Uzbeks in active do not care, they have the grave of Tamerlane. But if they give Turkish money, no one will refuse.
          2. 0
            28 October 2020 14: 09
            But aren't your lips rolled out too much? Russia has rolled her lips so fast many times. Rolls up and more than once. The Turks will scatter again in their holes and will again ask for mercy. As for unity, there are so many contradictions that it is impossible to count. Yes, and the Turks will treat the outskirts as a periphery, pumping out resources from gullible. They will remember back in Central Asia how Tamerlane beat Bayazid laughing
    3. 0
      28 October 2020 11: 07
      Quote: Azimuth
      Unprofitable. Both we and the States are turning the Turks from West to East, namely to the East, where, by the way, there have never been territories of the Ottoman Empire, and we are turning with only one goal - to oppose the quiet and creeping occupation of China throughout Central Asia.


      Türkiye is much more dangerous than China in Central Asia. Given the cultural and historical ties of the Turkic peoples, because Erdogan's goal is to unite these countries under his own banners and include them in the new Ottoman Empire, China has only economic expansion and their interests lie all over the world + they will not spoil relations with Russia, since in their project of a new Silk Road, Russia plays a significant role, i.e. through our territory cargo goes to the EU. Of course, China has other branches, but given our forced partnership (in all areas), no one will just destroy it, especially since China is surrounded by countries with which it has territorial disputes and conflicts, so they really need a calm north. Yes, and the culture of the PRC is specific .... but Turkey is another matter, there are more contradictions with Russia than joint projects, and for Erdogan there is no question of choice ... good relations with Russia or the creation of the Ottoman Empire, i.e. he made his choice here.
      1. 0
        29 October 2020 01: 30
        for Erdogan, there is no choice... good relations with Russia or the creation of the Ottoman Empire, i.e. he made his choice here.
        To the horror, first of all, of the Turks themselves. For even before Erdogan, the Anglo-Saxons chose this path for Turkey, after which an active reformatting of sentiments in Turkish society began from joining the EU towards neo-Ottomanism.
        When the majority of the population (mainly the provinces) of Turkey breathed in the idea of ​​reviving the neo-Ottoman empire, the Anglo-Saxons found a leader for the Turks: on the one hand, a heated nationalist, and on the other, simply an ignoramus.
        Well, the leader has already driven Turkey towards neo-Ottomanism (read: he began to climb into all conflicts).
        Well, so that he would not go astray, they put a lookout for him (Hakan Fidan)
        When it is needed (whether he fulfills his function or does not) he (Erdogan) will be safely eliminated, along with neo-Ottomanism, and most likely together with Turkey.
        ---
        In the meantime, let him ride to the neo-Ottoman dream or to the great Turan - read: to his death.
        ---
  18. +2
    28 October 2020 09: 39
    Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar made a number of planned visits to the countries of Central Asia
    Political scientists are right who argued that Erdogan's aspirations are not only the Caucasus, but also Central Asia, and through it to Russia. Here he adheres to American tactics - systematically, brazenly, along the path of least resistance. And if it is not stopped in time, then we should expect trouble for Russia in Tatarstan, the Crimea and the North Caucasus. And he does not care about supposedly "close economic ties" with our country, overt and covert agreements when he rushes towards his cherished goal - the restoration of the Ottoman Empire.
  19. 0
    28 October 2020 09: 48
    Another attempt to revive the Ottoman Empire?
    1. 0
      28 October 2020 09: 50
      with even more resources)
  20. +3
    28 October 2020 09: 55
    Relations between Turkey and Uzbekistan are based on a centuries-old common history, Ankara attaches special importance to this.
    And what commonality can there be with Turkey, when there is no border between them. Uzbekistan has more connections with Iran than with Turkey, and the capital of Tamerlane was in Samarkand. Uzbekistan was formed under the USSR from the Emirate of Bukhara, the Kokand Khanate and the Khiva Khanate. A completely different story without commonality with Turkey. The sultan opens his mouth not on his own pie.
    1. 0
      28 October 2020 09: 57
      maybe only ethnic)
      1. 0
        28 October 2020 11: 24
        Quote: hydroy
        except for ethnic

        And even then, this ethnic group remained only on paper, for a thousand years it has been so mixed up that you won’t understand that Uzbeks and Turks are one ethnic group.
  21. +3
    28 October 2020 09: 56
    the keyword imposes, and we chew snot there and wrinkle like a schoolgirl at the first disco
    1. +1
      28 October 2020 10: 04
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      and we chew snot there and mumble like a schoolgirl at the first disco

      Come on, tell us what we need to do there?
      1. +5
        28 October 2020 10: 18
        to start, stop chewing snot, you know that the same Kazakhs closed the air for our TV long before the Sumerians, that Russophobia flourishes there frankly at the leadership level
        1. +1
          28 October 2020 11: 54
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          stop chewing snot to start

          How to do it? Specifically your proposal.
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          you are aware that the same Kazakhs closed the air for our TV long before the Sumerians, that Russophobia flourishes there frankly at the leadership level

          I already wrote earlier that countries that have provided their territory for US laboratories cannot be allies by definition. I know everything, including the transition of Kazakhstan to the Latin alphabet (which is very reminiscent of Turkey).
          1. 0
            28 October 2020 12: 05
            demand harshly, do not mumble, tie all help solely on fulfilling the conditions
            1. 0
              28 October 2020 12: 44
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              demand harshly, do not mumble, tie all help solely on fulfilling the conditions

              I would add, sometimes brutally. wink
  22. 0
    28 October 2020 10: 03
    Here yesterday, the Armenians analyzed the collapsed Bayraktar drones and found nothing Turkish except for chassis tires, everything from the engine and guidance systems to the fuel pump - everything was made in Europe, the USA, Canada.
    And who will risk military-technical cooperation with these cheaters?
    The fate of Asians is to graze cattle, trade in bazaars, and bake kebab.
    1. 0
      29 October 2020 01: 06
      yesterday, the Armenians analyzed the crashed Bayraktar drones and found nothing Turkish except for chassis tires,
      They were not attentive - even the paint with which the flag was painted and the inscriptions were made lol
  23. +2
    28 October 2020 10: 30
    Quote: hydroy
    maybe only ethnic)

    Only partially. At present, Uzbeks are a kind of aggregate of unrelated peoples in one state. Persians, Turks, Arabs, etc. It was the same under the khanates. Instead of Farsi, one of the Turkic dialects with a strong Persian admixture was made the state language in Soviet times.
    1. 0
      28 October 2020 11: 27
      in any case, the Turks are betting on the Turkic-speaking ethnic groups)
    2. 0
      28 October 2020 11: 31
      Quote: Humpty
      Uzbeks are now a kind of collection of unrelated peoples in one state. Persians, Turks, Arabs, etc.

      And they never had anything in common with the Turks, and still don't. But the Sultan wants to show that all Turks are brothers, either naive or very cunning. Although Anglo-Saxon ears stick out of all these movements.
  24. 0
    28 October 2020 10: 34
    Türkiye replaces everything it can!
  25. 0
    28 October 2020 11: 58
    Quote: Aleksandr21
    Quote: Azimuth
    Unprofitable. Both we and the States are turning the Turks from West to East, namely to the East, where, by the way, there have never been territories of the Ottoman Empire, and we are turning with only one goal - to oppose the quiet and creeping occupation of China throughout Central Asia.


    Türkiye is much more dangerous than China in Central Asia. Given the cultural and historical ties of the Turkic peoples, because Erdogan's goal is to unite these countries under his own banners and include them in the new Ottoman Empire, China has only economic expansion and their interests lie all over the world + they will not spoil relations with Russia, since in their project of a new Silk Road, Russia plays a significant role, i.e. through our territory cargo goes to the EU. Of course, China has other branches, but given our forced partnership (in all areas), no one will just destroy it, especially since China is surrounded by countries with which it has territorial disputes and conflicts, so they really need a calm north. Yes, and the culture of the PRC is specific .... but Turkey is another matter, there are more contradictions with Russia than joint projects, and for Erdogan there is no question of choice ... good relations with Russia or the creation of the Ottoman Empire, i.e. he made his choice here.

    You are comparing the incomparable China and Turkey... Today and in the near future, Turkey cannot pose a threat to us, especially in theaters far from its borders.
    And let me remind you that China is a nuclear superpower.
  26. 0
    28 October 2020 13: 24
    Consent is a product of the non-resistance of the "imposed" party. The one who "imposes" is deeply selfless. Is that what he wants?
  27. +1
    28 October 2020 13: 44
    According to the Kazakh Minister of Defense, Türkiye is a strategic partner of Kazakhstan.

    Hmm, "strategic partnership" - the likelihood that Turkey will cease to exist in the next 3-5 years is very high.
    For Erdogan is an Anglo-Saxon PROJECT.
    Erdogan is a fiery nationalist, strong-willed, charismatic, power-hungry and (crucially) poorly educated. It was the combination of these qualities that provided Erdogan with a path to the leaders of Turkey.
    Turkey, which will abandon the secular path of development, will turn towards neo-Ottomanism or pan-Turkism.
    ---
    Such a turn of Turkey would not have been possible (conditionally) with Ataturk, an educated and far-sighted man.
    For such a turnaround, a leader with the qualities of Erdogan was needed.
    They found him.
    Now Turkey is galloping (to the approving hooting of the Turkish provinces) towards its pan-Turkic or neo-Ottoman "GREATNESS", destroying everything around it.
    ---
    And in order to make this path seem successful, the Anglo-Saxons (together with Israel) actively began to supply the armed forces of the Turkish army with important components.
    Which, by the way, will stop at the right time.
    ---
    Pan-Turkism (or neo-Ottomanism) is a tool in the hands of the Anglo-Saxons, and it will exist exactly as long as the Anglo-Saxons need it.
    Hopes that the Turks will come to their senses and a new Ataturk will appear are practically zero.
    As soon as the tool does its job (or does not do it), the owners will immediately destroy it. In fact, Türkiye is doomed, as are its "strategic partners."
    ---
    Well, what kind of "strategic partnership" was the Minister of Defense of Kazakhstan talking about?
  28. -1
    28 October 2020 17: 36
    - There was already such a "unifier" - Saddam Hussein was called ....
  29. 0
    28 October 2020 21: 32
    Quote: flicker
    According to the Kazakh Minister of Defense, Türkiye is a strategic partner of Kazakhstan.
    Such a turn of Turkey would not have been possible (conditionally) with Ataturk, an educated and far-sighted man.
    For such a turnaround, a leader with the qualities of Erdogan was needed.
    They found him.
    Now Turkey is galloping (to the approving hooting of the Turkish provinces) towards its pan-Turkic or neo-Ottoman "GREATNESS", destroying everything around it.
    What you write is easy to see from the Turks who work for us, narrow-minded lumpens idolize him, an educated engineer, especially the older generation, is not happy with what he does.

    The British have not been the same for a long time and do not do anything that would go against the policy of the States.
  30. +1
    28 October 2020 21: 52
    The toothless and servile policy of the Kremlin will bring many more unpleasant surprises. The southern "underbelly" of Russia is heating up. hi
  31. 0
    29 October 2020 07: 33
    This already happened in the early 90s ... Then even the officers of the former TurkVo were sent to study in Turkey for a year. And all the same, do not care, the mentality of the east is this: whoever makes a gift, they will smile at him, who is stronger, they are friends with him. At one time, they smiled at both the Turks and the Americans, but they are friends, in any way, with the Russians. However.
  32. +12
    1 November 2020 23: 38
    Turkey imposes military cooperation on Central Asian countries

    A holy place is never empty. If we do not try to "impose" our cooperation, then the Turks try not to miss the opportunity that has opened up.

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