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Iran announced "red lines" for Armenia and Azerbaijan and moved the IRGC mechanized brigade to the borders

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Iran announced "red lines" for Armenia and Azerbaijan and moved the IRGC mechanized brigade to the borders

Azerbaijan and Armenia continue to violate the reached agreements on a humanitarian truce. Let us recall that such agreements were reached by the foreign ministers of the two republics in Moscow, and then in Washington. However, in none of the cases of compliance with the agreements is not visible.


In this regard, experts note that Yerevan and Baku, to one degree or another, not only ignore the very possibility of stopping the armed conflict, but also "give a slap in the face to the superpowers," which act as mediators in an attempt to resolve the situation.

Against this background, the country located in the vicinity of the conflict zone - Iran - makes it clear that it is extremely concerned about the clashes near its borders. Iranian General Abdolrahim Mousavi, commander of the Iranian air defense headquarters, notes that the Iranian air defenses have been put on special alert.

General Mousavi:

In connection with the escalation of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and the appearance of means of combat aviation near our borders, we have strengthened the air defense, added additional calculations.

Sepah News reports that the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) ground forces of Iran have deployed a mechanized brigade on their northwestern borders.

It is noted that Iran respects the territorial integrity and independence of all states, including Armenia and Azerbaijan, but at the same time the IRGC draws "red lines" for the troops of neighboring countries. This was stated by Brigadier General of the IRGC Mohammad Pakpur. According to him, these "red lines" are the security of the Iranian people. If during the fighting in the neighboring region it happens that this security is violated, then "the IRGC will have to give its answer to such challenges."

And this is a new statement from the Iranian Defense Minister:

We will go beyond simple warnings if shells continue to hit Iran's border regions, even by mistake.
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  1. BDRM 667
    BDRM 667 28 October 2020 06: 17
    14
    Iran announced "red lines" for Armenia and Azerbaijan and moved the IRGC mechanized brigade to the borders

    So Iran "began to stir" ...

    "The further into the forest" (the aggravation of the Karabakh crisis), the more twisted the plot, with a not entirely clear scenario and an increasingly unpredictable ending ...
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 28 October 2020 06: 32
      17
      And the Persians don't need a war at their side!
      And they don't like Turks. And the NATO countries too.
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 28 October 2020 06: 36
        +2
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        And the Persians don't need a war at their side!
        And they don't like Turks. And the NATO countries too.

        It's completely clear yes
        But at the same time, Iran needs to be extremely careful in its actions so that the United States does not use them as a pretext for accusing Iran of aggression ...
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 28 October 2020 09: 22
          +3
          The civil war in Azerbaijan - between Armenians and Azerbaijanis - not only destabilizes the national security of neighboring countries, but also reveals which country is which country, as well as who is a real ally to whom, how and why. Namely.

          Earlier, the foreign affairs adviser to the top leader (rahbar) of Iran, Ali Velayati, issued a statement in support of Azerbaijan. "Armenia must return the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan", - he said.
          At the same time, to the statement of the Iranian Defense Minister:
          We will go beyond simple warnings if shells continue to hit Iran's border regions, even by mistake.
          it should be added that Iran closed its borders for Russian aircraft to Armenia itself.
          In this case, Armenia was completely blocked... For the transfer of Russian troops or weapons through the territory of Georgia is also impossible.

          In this case, can we talk about Iran's "non-intervention" in the civil war in Azerbaijan with Armenia? If, moreover, about 20 million ethnic Azerbaijanis live in Iran, it is twice as many as in Azerbaijan itself. Rahbar Ali Khamenei himself is also an Azerbaijani.

          As a result, Iran is under suspicion that Iran is not just on the side of Azerbaijan, but also on the side of Turkey and Erdogan.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 28 October 2020 10: 03
            0
            Quote: BDRM 667
            So Iran "began to stir" ...

            Quote: Ilya-spb
            And the Persians don't need a war at their side!
            And they don't like Turks. And the NATO countries too.

            Unfortunately, the impetus for the decision of the Azerbaijani leadership to start hostilities was the intervention of Turkey - the provision of military-technical and, in some cases, direct military, assistance to Azerbaijan. (It is already known that Azerbaijan owes 2/3 of this victory to Turkey's direct participation.) Turkey also provides Baku with a kind of foreign policy umbrella against the predictable "international indignation".

            At the same time, Ankara in Azerbaijan pursues its goals that lie outside Azerbaijan. Namely:
            1. Demonstration of the fundamentally increased geopolitical importance of Turkey in the region, as a player capable of influencing the processes in neighboring countries.
            2. The consolidation of Baku in the zone of its indisputable - TURKISH - global interests, and the formation of a reliable corridor from it for the continuation of the TURKISH expansion into Central Asia (CA).
            - a) Along the way, limiting the importance of Iran in the Caspian region.
            - b) With the subsequent increase in its regional weight to the Mediterranean Sea and the Middle East.

            As for Armenia as a state, in the future it will most likely be swept away by radical Islamists in the direction of their advancement to the west.
            This is Erdogan's conspiracy with Aliyev, to which Iran will join.

            The Anglo-Saxons are partly so far all this is more or less satisfied and they will not particularly interfere in this.
            1. Alexander Kopychev
              Alexander Kopychev 28 October 2020 10: 33
              0
              Demonstration of the fundamentally increased geopolitical importance of Turkey in the region, as a player capable of influencing processes in neighboring countries.

              Opens the secret too. This is the essence, and they look at the "fuss in Karabakh" with one eye.
          2. Alexander Kopychev
            Alexander Kopychev 28 October 2020 10: 24
            -1
            In this regard, experts note that Yerevan and Baku, to one degree or another, not only ignore the very possibility of stopping the armed conflict, but also "give a slap in the face to the superpowers," which act as mediators in an attempt to resolve the situation.

            hi Nobody pays attention to this thing in the comments. Do you believe in this nonsense? The spattered superpowers wipe themselves with handkerchiefs and sigh heavily ... I - definitely not. The "powers of this world" are leading the conflict to a radical resolution and, apparently, not all "red lines" have been reached. Therefore, "peaceful" agreements do not work. And the fate of Karabakh today, oddly enough, depends on Erdogan. They will not agree to define the framework for him.
          3. venik
            venik 28 October 2020 12: 02
            +3
            Quote: Tatiana
            If, moreover, about 20 million ethnic Azerbaijanis live in Iran, it is twice as many as in Azerbaijan itself.

            ======
            That's it so then the relations between Iran and Azerbaijan during all 28 years since the collapse of the USSR can be characterized as "more than wary"! Iran is constantly afraid of an outbreak in Iranian Azerbaijan - after all, this is 25% of the Iranian population (and according to some sources even more!).
            -------
            Quote: Tatiana
            As a result, Iran is under suspicion that Iran is not just on the side of Azerbaijan, but also on the side of Turkey and Erdogan.

            ========
            Oo-oo-oo, where you are "carried"! So something, but to suspect Tehran of sympathy for Turkey (in general) and Erdogan (in particular), somehow it does not work! Relations between Iran and Turkey have always been "strained," if not "hostile." Whatever one may say, these are "strategic competitors" in the struggle for influence in the Near and Middle East! Sometimes, situationally, they became "temporary companions" (for example, in the "Kurdish issue"), but as a rule - not for long! Yes, besides, Turkey is a member of NATO, while Iran and NATO cannot be called friends!
            So Tehran is rather on the side of Armenia, but it cannot officially show this!
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 28 October 2020 12: 14
              -1
              Quote: venik (Vladimir)
              Tehran, rather, is on the side of Armenia, but it cannot officially show this!

              In fact, Iran's adherence, in your opinion, only on the side of Armenia does not work out, because
              Quote: Tatiana
              Iran closed its borders for Russian aircraft to Armenia itself.
              At the same time, Armenia was completely blocked. For the transfer of Russian troops or weapons through the territory of Georgia is also impossible.
              In this case, is it possible to speak of Iran's "non-interference" in the civil war in Azerbaijan with Armenia? If, moreover, lives in Iran about 20 million ethnic Azerbaijanis, - twice as much as in Azerbaijan itself. Azeri is also Rahbar Ali Khamenei himself.

              Somehow you are too selective about all ++ and - in your assumptions about the true position of Iran, take into account.
              1. venik
                venik 28 October 2020 12: 18
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                In fact, in your opinion, Iran's adherence to Armenia's side does not work out in any way, because

                =======
                For Turkish planes flying to Azerbaijan, Iran closed the borders even earlier!
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 28 October 2020 12: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: venik
                  For Turkish planes flying to Azerbaijan, Iran closed the borders even earlier!
                  And how then, in your opinion, military supplies to Azerbaijan from Turkey have increased 6 times since the beginning of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces' offensive against the NKR?
                  Through Georgia? Or is it through Iran as well?

                  Something in this case, your categorical opinion on this issue somehow grows together a little.
                  1. venik
                    venik 28 October 2020 12: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    And how then, in your opinion, military supplies to Azerbaijan from Turkey have increased 6 times since the beginning of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces' offensive against the NKR?
                    Through Georgia?

                    =======
                    Well, not through Russia!
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 28 October 2020 17: 20
                      0
                      Apparently, yes - through Georgia!

                      Georgia is unambiguously a bribed ally of Turkey, and especially in the post-Soviet period Georgia's "Turkification" grew during the times of Saakashvili! And it is not without reason that Saakashvili is now trying to return to power in Georgia!

                      Turkey, Azerbaijan and Georgia against Armenia! news today. • 1 sept. 2020
              2. volodimer
                volodimer 28 October 2020 14: 57
                +2
                Tatyana, your arguments are interesting, but I believe that in this region only Turkey and Azerbaijan are interested in changing the current balance. The Sultan needs to be shown how cool he is, and Aliyev ... well, the same thing. Armenians, who from Pashinyans and his western curators shine the loss of the NKR and "loss of face".
                Russia, will show that there is no way without it, but although it will receive a bonus in the form of "Poles helped you, son," it will lose no less foreign sponsors.
                Iran will also lose a lot from all this mess. For the result will be the strengthening of Turkey in the Transcaucasus and Turkistan, and if the same France and / or other NATO fits in for Armenia, this will all the more benefit no one.
                Regarding the conflict itself, I wrote it earlier and continue to think this way: the Armenians will have to leave the part of Azerbaijan they occupied, but the NKR and, most importantly, the "Lachin corridor" must be guaranteed to remain behind them. At least for now it should be left that way. On this, the conflict can be frozen, with the proclamation from all sides of the "won victory", it is possible that this will require peacekeepers. And then wait ... 50-100 years, although 70 years in one state did not help. Georgians with Abkhazia and Ossetia could not bear it ...
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 28 October 2020 15: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: volodimer
                  I think that in this region only Turkey and Azerbaijan are interested in changing the existing balance. The Sultan needs to be shown how cool he is, and Aliyev ... well, the same thing.
                  Exactly!
                  And mainly at the same time, it is the radical Islamist Ottomanist Erdogan, who has broken off the chain and lost the coast, muddies the waters in the region with his idea of ​​a historical revenge on the restoration of the Ottoman Empire in the form of building a kind of quasi-neo-state - Turan.

                  And what unites both Aliyev and Erdogan is the struggle of each to maintain presidential power in the upcoming presidential elections in their countries. Here they are partly together uncooperatively with the Armenians and rage!
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      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 28 October 2020 07: 46
        +3
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        And the Persians don't need a war at their side!

        Getting involved in a conflict (in any capacity) is something that neither Iran nor anyone else needs. Intervention on one side will automatically lead to the establishment of a hostile relationship with the other side. Simply neutral intervention, in order to extinguish the conflict, leads to the slogans "they snatched the victory out of our hands" with all the ensuing hanging of dogs. Therefore, Iran simply marked the "red line" for the crooked gunners. As for the "war at hand", in my personal opinion, Iran can derive considerable benefit from it. Having a highly developed military-industrial complex, Iran is limited in the export of its weapons. And then there is such a chance to fix things. And the logistics are extremely simple. hi
      4. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 28 October 2020 12: 57
        0
        The Persians have a selfish interest there - the Khudaferin hydroelectric power station and a reservoir, built for Iranian money and supplying water to about 75 hectares of land in sowing. - app. parts of the country. When these territories were controlled by Armenia, according to the agreement, the Persians supplied electricity to the adjacent regions, but the perimeter was 000 km. around the hydroelectric station "kept" the IRGC. Nobody knows how it will be now. And the problem of Zap. Azerbaijan Tehran can solve in one fell swoop
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    3. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 28 October 2020 07: 59
      +7
      with a not entirely clear scenario and an increasingly unpredictable ending ....... yes, everything is clear and understandable ... the Persians are pulling up not just the Armed Forces in the full sense of the word to the northern borders, namely air defense, .... in view of the fact that the aisers are in close contact with the striped ones and by the infa that the F-16s were left after the exercises in Iizerstan suggests that the falcones will obviously not be controlled by the azerpilots, so the Iranian action is of a preventive and defensive nature and no more, although it is likely the IRGC Covert operations will be carried out, but not large-scale ... everything will disappear as the strength began and patience is not eternal
  2. Mytholog
    Mytholog 28 October 2020 06: 19
    19
    It would be a funny situation if, after all the unsuccessful attempts of Russia, Europe and the United States to reconcile Armenia with Azerbaijan, Iran would appear on the stage, nag both of them and dispersed all this mess to hell))
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 28 October 2020 06: 58
      +4
      For Iran, as well as for Turkey, in this situation, the vassal subordination of Azerbaijan is interesting. However, Turkey has succeeded more in this. Iran realized itself a little late.
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    3. Pravodel
      Pravodel 28 October 2020 07: 12
      +3
      It won't work. As soon as Iran gets involved in the war, the United States, England and any other shushara will immediately appear on the side of either Armenia or Azerbaijan ... This war will play into their hands ...
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      2. Cowbra
        Cowbra 28 October 2020 07: 40
        -2
        Yeah, the United States didn’t have enough in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan to get into Azerbaijan, surrounded on all sides by the “friends” of the United States. winked Utopia is absolute. Limes can be forgotten altogether - henceforth and forever they have become what they have always been - island sheep
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 28 October 2020 12: 59
          0
          Yes, getting into this conflict of mattress mats and their "sixes" is unlikely, perhaps there will be BSHUs, but it will hardly come to a ground operation.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 28 October 2020 13: 09
            0
            BSHU is just impossible - the base in Gyumri is well covered, there may not be understood. But the "meat" in the form of PMCs ... But again, why is it unlikely - the sea will go away, the obvious sense is zero. They can only climb on the side of Armenia, what's the point? How do you even supply? On the one hand - the Russian Federation, on the other Iran, on the third - the Turks, fun!
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 28 October 2020 13: 11
              0
              I'm not talking about Gyumri. I mean the NKAO region with the adjacent territories. There is already enough cannon fodder - they brought it from Syria.
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 28 October 2020 07: 49
      +3
      Quote: Mytholog
      Iran would come on the scene, nag both of them and disperse all this mess to hell))

      So Aliyev seemed to say that several of their missiles accidentally flew into Iran. So Iran has every reason to do it
  3. Roman1970_1
    Roman1970_1 28 October 2020 06: 24
    -7
    Well now it will definitely end
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 28 October 2020 06: 25
    10
    laughing And here the "forester" showed up ... He won't persuade ..
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 28 October 2020 06: 30
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      And here the "forester" showed up ... He won't persuade ..

      And what?
      It was said - "Do not make fire, do not burn fires. Do not make noise and rowdy" ...

      The "forest" (region) needs silence ...

      At the expense of "persuading". Iran, in this respect, is very similar to China. Silent, silent, waiting, and then goes on stage.
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 28 October 2020 06: 36
        10
        Quote: BDRM 667
        Silent, silent, waiting, and then goes on stage.

        Where did China come on the scene militarily? Unless, of course, countless butting for the disputed islands and the stone-stick battle on the border with India ...
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 28 October 2020 06: 40
          +1
          Quote: Volodin
          Where did China enter the scene? Unless, of course, countless butting for the disputed islands are not counted as such ...

          Both islands and wars in the economic sphere, which, in terms of the amount of damage they inflict, are quite comparable to small armed conflicts.
          Yes, and not for that you "hooked" yes It would be better to note the extremely similar pragmatism of the foreign policy of the PRC and Iran ...
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 28 October 2020 10: 24
          -4
          For example Djibouti, Venezuela, Nicaragua. (who guards the Venezuelan oil industry in China), And there is no need for irony about the islands, they are carefully preparing to resolve the issue of Tai Bei. In general, all African assets are reliably protected by the Chinese PMC.
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    2. Livonetc
      Livonetc 28 October 2020 08: 59
      +3
      Didn't know Iran had Chinook helicopters (in the title photo of the article).
      I asked about the network.
      I came across such a fact.
      In 78, four Iranian Chinook helicopters invaded the USSR.
      Of the four helicopters, one was shot down, one was damaged and captured, two survived and retreated. 8 people were killed from the Iranian side.
      The Iranians said the helicopters were unarmed and lost.
      However, when examining the downed and damaged helicopter, reconnaissance equipment and several photographic cassettes were found.
  5. cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 28 October 2020 06: 29
    -2
    it is better to let Iran take Karabakh for itself by force and everything will calm down at once, Armenia and Azerbaijan will not unite to fight with Iran ...
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      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 28 October 2020 07: 14
        +4
        Quote: MTN
        I understand, the shells are flying to Iran, this is not good.

        It was necessary to understand this even before the war began. yes
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 28 October 2020 07: 40
      18
      Quote: cokol-161
      better let Iran take Karabakh by force

      What's funny is that Iran has more historical rights to NK than Azerbaijan. However, if we remember that Azerbaijan itself is a former Iranian province .... By the way, Azerbaijanis from VO are very fond of speculating about their historical rights to NK. I wonder how they will like it if Iran starts talking about its rights to Azerbaijan and the need to restore historical justice. lol
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 28 October 2020 08: 39
        -14 qualifying.
        You are not friends with history). Tell me the ruler of the Persian or the Persian dynasty in Iran for 1000 years (except for Pahlavi), even now our supreme leader)
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 28 October 2020 12: 32
          +1
          Quote: Otshelnik
          even now our supreme leader

          Just "yours"? Was it Aliyev who appointed him there or did you recruit him? Something is not noticeable that he harnessed for you. Only by nationality, Azerbaijani, and not by belonging and mentality. Stalin was a Georgian, but the USSR was not Georgia.
        2. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 28 October 2020 13: 03
          +3
          Yours?)))) Just because an Azerbaijani?))) From his point of view, it looks much more logical to add you (10 million) to those 20 million who live in Iran.
  6. Scipio
    Scipio 28 October 2020 06: 31
    -1
    It looks like Dad came and piled two goldfinches))) what will the tomato sultan answer?)
    1. Asad
      Asad 28 October 2020 06: 38
      +4
      The tomato sultan's lyre has completely collapsed!
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 28 October 2020 06: 44
        +9
        Quote: ASAD
        The tomato sultan's lyre has completely collapsed!


        "New of the season - lyres harps no, take a tambourine! "
      2. Scipio
        Scipio 28 October 2020 06: 55
        0
        It looks like the sultan did not calculate his forces, at such a pace he will receive from his own people
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 28 October 2020 13: 05
          0
          The logic in the actions of the Sultan, recently, is not traced at all. He quarreled with everyone, "hacked to death" with everyone, despite the fact that the situation in Turkey is frankly worthless.
          1. Scipio
            Scipio 28 October 2020 16: 13
            0
            So, I am also surprised at the Sultan! Turkey is not a super duper power, with good reserves of resources, there are no powerful friends behind, but behaves as if at least the entire Middle East holds) it is not clear what gives Erdogan faith in himself ... Maybe he uses something forbidden and on this wave felt like Batman
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 28 October 2020 18: 31
              +1
              Yeah, there is such a suspicion that the sultan "got hooked" on the "hair dryer"
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 October 2020 06: 39
    +7
    Recall that such agreements were reached by the foreign ministers of the two republics in Moscow, and then in Washington.
    Today on TV, 1 can. showed a segment of the interview with Trump. In which he stated, ATTENTION! - "The truce in Nagorno-Karabakh continues!" Interestingly, does he even know where Karabakh is? bully
    1. Asad
      Asad 28 October 2020 06: 44
      +2
      Why does he need these little things, he will soon completely forget, regardless of the election results.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 28 October 2020 06: 44
    +3
    Yerevan and Baku, to one degree or another, not only ignore the very possibility of stopping the armed conflict, but also "give a slap in the face to the superpowers" who act as mediators in an attempt to resolve the situation.

    Beautifully stated good
    When the big ones talk, it is no longer necessary that the little ones will listen to them ... all the more so when the middle ones and others rustle to the fullest!
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  9. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 28 October 2020 06: 53
    +2
    Some kind of sur. It would be like Germany would clash again with France over Alsace and Lorraine.
    1. novel66
      novel66 28 October 2020 08: 07
      +4
      they have already come far from monkeys, there is no primitive aggression in them
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 October 2020 08: 49
        -1
        Ha, gayropeyskie turned pink, turned blue, "girls" with beards walk and on high heels !!! and so on, so on ... heroes of chivalric novels are NOT there now!
        Hello Roman soldier
        1. novel66
          novel66 28 October 2020 10: 40
          +1
          who is there to fight! Vitya hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 October 2020 10: 45
            0
            Well, how is it?
            Put a podium on the front line, let them wag, as they were taught. From the hip.
            Normal men sales will not want to "wet" such people, not in an arc .... although, there would be a brusboit, it would be washed off into one pit-trash heap, Schaub is not a shame to see it.
  10. Pankrat25
    Pankrat25 28 October 2020 07: 01
    -4
    It begins to smell distinctly of the possible start of the 3rd World War. If Iran gets involved, the West will immediately kick in the same and the kneading will begin. Neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan will seem a little.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 28 October 2020 10: 30
      -2
      And I wonder who will get involved in the west? USA until December is not up to that. British? With an army of 80 thousand against 80 million Iran and the total number of the army and the IRGC over a million? The Arabs will not harness the Turks for anything, they will also help Iran, Israel is also on the sidelines.
  11. unknown
    unknown 28 October 2020 07: 06
    -8
    The most literate astrologer, who does not consider himself an astrologer, since in his opinion, he relies on exact disciplines in his judgments, has a very well-developed historical theory.
    According to this theory, the next Empire, after Russia, will be Iran. Accordingly, Turkey will become the Totalitarian Twin of the Empire, the Shadow in short. The Totalitarian Twin is always trying to take the place of the Empire. Sometimes, he can achieve tactical success as well. But in the end, the victory always rests with the Empire. Iran should become an Empire after Russia moves from the imperial path of development to the European (or "Jewish", since the words "European" and "Jewish" are just different ways of pronouncing one word). Russia should switch to the European development path after 2025.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 28 October 2020 07: 48
      +5
      Quote: ignoto
      Russia should switch to the European development path after 2025.

      Eco poked you, well, go have a drink, maybe he will let go ...
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 28 October 2020 10: 26
      +4
      "Iran will be. Accordingly, Turkey will become the Totalitarian Double of the Empire, the Shadow, in short." ///
      ---
      Cool! good
      I haven’t heard that before ... Even cooler than the user Hrych. Steeper than Samsonov about the Mamaevo massacre.
      And who is this astrologer?
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 28 October 2020 11: 39
        -1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And who is this astrologer?

        Maybe our Gridasov? wink
        Quote: ignoto
        he relies on precise disciplines in his judgments

        Oh how! Exactly he. bully
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 28 October 2020 11: 44
          +3
          "Maybe our Gridasov?" ///
          ----
          Don't touch Gridasov. He's a real AI from Grid Artificial Systems. It has been undergoing tests and upgrades on the VO website for many years. It is very interesting to watch how he develops himself.
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 28 October 2020 11: 53
            -1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Grid Artificial Systems

            GRID Art artificial Systems OF advanced development
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It is very interesting to watch how he develops himself.

            Or maybe we already tavoit (brains on one side)? bully
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 28 October 2020 11: 57
              +1
              No, its true. A smart bot, not a human user. There are more and more of them on various sites.
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 28 October 2020 12: 10
                0
                Quote: voyaka uh
                No, its true. A smart bot, not a human user.

                With human errors in the comments?
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 28 October 2020 12: 20
                  +1
                  He has mistakes. But they are precisely "inhuman" - machine. And in punctuation, and in style. His style changed several times. Not dramatically, but in small leaps (software versions). There were also refunds if the version failed. This is a very interesting topic, actually. There is evidence that about half of the bestselling novels in recent years have already been written by AI, and there are authors, but fake ones.
                  1. Dym71
                    Dym71 28 October 2020 12: 33
                    0
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    This is a very interesting topic, actually.

                    We will see
    3. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 28 October 2020 16: 33
      0
      Quote: ignoto
      since the words "European" and "Hebrew" are just different ways of pronouncing one word

  12. Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 October 2020 07: 16
    +1
    I would like to believe that the Persians will not just scatter words, but will actually "pull up" and rudely, as it is worth, that country of the belligerents that would also want to bomb something in Iran or fire it "inadvertently"!
  13. faiver
    faiver 28 October 2020 07: 40
    +1
    Empty it all
  14. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 28 October 2020 07: 46
    +2
    You look and everything will return to square one, and Nagorno-Karabakh, which the Armenians and Azerbaijanis consider "theirs" and the RI conquered from the Persians, will return to the latter ... it will be fair ...
    1. MTN
      MTN 28 October 2020 10: 40
      -3
      Quote: Lara Croft
      Nagorno-Karabakh which Armenians consider "theirs"

      Karabakh will never be Armenian. They won't be allowed to live there in peace. They have already determined themselves in Armenia.

      Quote: Lara Croft
      Persians, back to the latter and will return ...

      Dear, Azerbaijan will return to Persia only when the true Azerbaijanis are at the head and not these hypocrites. When you say Persia, you should know that Persia was always ruled by Azerbaijanis. Only in the last 50 years, I will say that farces have taken the throne. But history tends to return. Persia was and will be Azerbaijan. These farces are not Muslims, not even Christians, they themselves do not know who they are.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 28 October 2020 20: 11
        -1
        Quote: MTN
        Only in the last 50 years, I will say that farces have taken the throne. But history tends to return. Persia was and will be Azerbaijan. These farces are not Muslims, not even Christians, they themselves do not know who they are.

        I guessed that the Caspian Sea was dug by the Azerbaijanis ...
  15. times
    times 28 October 2020 08: 01
    16
    More and more players are joining the game
  16. Trojan_wolf
    Trojan_wolf 28 October 2020 08: 03
    0
    Iran is getting angry. But, in theory, he could put pressure on the opposing sides in the settlement of the conflict.
    1. Avior
      Avior 28 October 2020 08: 58
      +3
      How can he push?
      economically it cannot, militarily it cannot, and even more so politically it cannot.
      Iran has enough problems of its own.
    2. MTN
      MTN 28 October 2020 10: 37
      -2
      Quote: Trojan_Wolf
      Iran is getting angry.

      wassat and? and that will be?
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 28 October 2020 10: 44
        -1
        The reunification of Azerbaijanis under the rule of Ayatollah is also possible, at a minimum, the disaster of the Azerbaijani army, when former vassals greyhound them harshly. And the Turks will not be able to help their puppet here.
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 28 October 2020 09: 27
    0
    We will go beyond simple warnings if shells continue to hit Iran's border regions, even by mistake.

    It is not a very good sign, the possibility of Iran's involvement in the conflict. I think there was no calculation for this, but many will want to take advantage of it. And there our participation is not far off. Whom NATO will choose, even the blind can understand.
    1. MTN
      MTN 28 October 2020 10: 36
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      Not a very good sign, the possibility of Iran's involvement in the conflict.

      Iran needs to do whatever it wants except to fit into this conflict. For any side, no matter who, Iran will get it later. It is better for him to sit still.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 28 October 2020 10: 53
        0
        Interesting from whom? When they jumped around the American base, they didn't get something.
  18. MTN
    MTN 28 October 2020 10: 35
    -1
    New trophies of Azerbaijan, a tank, an armored vehicle, some buckets and a lot of ammunition and weapons. Forward Azerbaijan !!!!
    https://video.azertag.az/files/video/2020/3/16038669186014552762.mp4
  19. Azimuth
    Azimuth 28 October 2020 11: 40
    -1
    Quote: Tatiana
    The civil war in Azerbaijan - between Armenians and Azerbaijanis - not only destabilizes the national security of neighboring countries, but also reveals which country is which country, as well as who is a real ally to whom, how and why. Namely.

    Earlier, the foreign affairs adviser to the top leader (rahbar) of Iran, Ali Velayati, issued a statement in support of Azerbaijan. "Armenia must return the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan", - he said.
    At the same time, to the statement of the Iranian Defense Minister:
    We will go beyond simple warnings if shells continue to hit Iran's border regions, even by mistake.
    it should be added that Iran closed its borders for Russian aircraft to Armenia itself.
    In this case, Armenia was completely blocked... For the transfer of Russian troops or weapons through the territory of Georgia is also impossible.

    In this case, can we talk about Iran's "non-intervention" in the civil war in Azerbaijan with Armenia? If, moreover, about 20 million ethnic Azerbaijanis live in Iran, it is twice as many as in Azerbaijan itself. Rahbar Ali Khamenei himself is also an Azerbaijani.

    As a result, Iran is under suspicion that Iran is not just on the side of Azerbaijan, but also on the side of Turkey and Erdogan.
    Tatyana, first of all, there is no Civil War. There is a completely natural process of formation and formation of two independent states, Europe and Russia went through these processes many centuries ago, plus there was a correction following the results of the Second World War. External players by their interference in this natural process only slow it down. Either it is necessary to proceed from the fact that after the collapse of the USSR, these states retain their borders similar to the Soviet republics, if both sides or one of them do not agree with this and cannot resolve the dispute or realize ambitions politically, a war begins, which is a continuation of politics.
    There are many examples in history, many nations have lost their statehood and this is a natural and objective process. For quite objective reasons, the population of one side left their country and declined in size due to the low birth rate, while the population of the other increased due to a lower level of emigration and due to a higher birth rate. The extinction of Armenia is quite natural for the processes in the sitoria, and it is historically doomed to either diminish ambitions or disappear. At the same time, the loss of statehood does not at all mean the disappearance of the nation as Armenians, we have many examples of more numerous nations and powerful states that have fallen into decay and disappeared in the end.
    We are trying to protect the nature of animals from its interference in evolution, or to compensate for this interference through the preservation of species and populations endangered not as a result of the natural evolution of the animal world, but as a result of human activity. But at the same time, in the evolution of communities and nations of our own kind, we are trying to influence and break evolution and the natural course of history.
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 28 October 2020 12: 03
      -1
      I wrote for half an hour, the post does not work completely, I cut it into pieces, deciding that the text is large, the same story, writes an invalid text. Mata, etc. no. I don’t understand what is the matter.

      Can anyone help from the moderators?
    2. Cottager452
      Cottager452 28 October 2020 19: 55
      0
      What is this? Selected passages from "Mein Kampf" adapted for the defective natives?
  20. iouris
    iouris 28 October 2020 12: 10
    0
    It is obvious that Aliyev agrees that Azerbaijan will be turned into a springboard from which a threat to Iran will be created. This is a payment for the massive supply of high-tech systems developed in Israel and manufactured in Turkey at Chinese enterprises. In the future, Armenia can become such a springboard. Hence the "red lines".
  21. Old26
    Old26 28 October 2020 13: 35
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    As a result, Iran is under suspicion that Iran is not just on the side of Azerbaijan, but also on the side of Turkey and Erdogan.

    Iran primarily cares about itself. And he closed the passage of Russian military aircraft, which he had done more than once. His right. And this does not mean at all that he is on someone's side. He is on his

    Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
    in view of the fact that the aisers are in close contact with the striped ones and due to the fact that the F-16s were abandoned after the exercises in the Iizerstan, it suggests that it is clearly not the ice pilots that will control the falcons,

    The deepest thought !!!! Long thought ???? How can a pilot who has not been trained on it manage a fighter, and not a bookcase of the early 20th century, but a supersonic fighter ???? There is no need to think anything. Not just planes were left, but with personnel ...

    Quote: Egoza
    So Iran has every reason to do it

    If we start a war for a few missiles (shells) that have flown in, we will go far. Iran is trying to secure its borders in the event of possible incidents. Pulls up air defense and the most combat-ready units (IRGC). There have been warnings from Iran (this is not the first time that shells / missiles have flown into Iran), are and will be. But to start a war - you should not think that they are so frostbitten that they use the projectiles that have flown in as a kind of Casus belli

    Quote: cokol-161
    it is better to let Iran take Karabakh for itself by force and everything will calm down at once, Armenia and Azerbaijan will not unite to fight with Iran ...

    We only still lack Iran within walking distance.

    Quote: Pankrat25
    It begins to smell distinctly of the possible start of the 3rd World War. If Iran gets involved, the West will immediately kick in the same and the kneading will begin. Neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan will seem a little.

    The kneading may start, but what does the 3rd world have to do with it?
  22. Alien From
    Alien From 28 October 2020 16: 24
    0
    Iran is a very strong player there.
  23. Azimuth
    Azimuth 28 October 2020 20: 43
    0
    Quote: Summer Resident452
    What is this? Selected passages from "Mein Kampf" adapted for the defective natives?
    Are you familiar with Mein Kampf? I cannot boast of the same, I am not familiar with this "masterpiece of classical literature," I preferred Marx's Capital.
  24. Roskar
    Roskar 28 October 2020 22: 25
    +1
    Deputy Foreign Minister of Iran: "I bow my head to the Azerbaijani soldiers who fell in Karabakh!"
    22:56
    “First of all, I would like to express my condolences to you, the Azerbaijani people, the Azerbaijani state in connection with the event that led to the death of civilians, civilians as a result of today's missile attack on the city of Barda, as well as in connection with people who became martyrs,” the special representative said Iranian President, Deputy Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Arakchi at a meeting with Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, AzerTAc reports.

    “You are also well aware that the Islamic Republic of Iran from the first days opposed the occupation of the territories of Azerbaijan and supported its territorial integrity. I consider it my duty to congratulate you on the victories won by the Azerbaijani army on the battlefield in recent days, and the liberation of a part of the occupied territories. I bow my head to the memory of all the martyrs who gave their lives along the way, ”said special envoy Hassan Rouhani.