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Azerbaijan: "We will destroy the military facilities of Armenia, regardless of their location"

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Baku has the right to strike at any military installations that threaten the territorial integrity of the republic. In this case, their location does not matter.


This message is contained in a joint statement of the Ministry of Defense and the State Border Service of Azerbaijan, which was published today.

The ministries accused the Armenian side of deliberately escalating the situation along the entire front line. This is especially true of the sections of the internationally recognized state border, which the Azerbaijani military managed to reach. Baku believes that these areas should not be considered a conflict zone:

The Armenian leadership must realize and accept that the restored state borders are not a conflict zone, but are the state border recognized by the international community that defines the full sovereign territories of Azerbaijan.

The statement also notes that Baku is adhering to the recently established ceasefire by taking adequate measures in response to enemy provocations along the entire front line.

The inviolability of the state border must be ensured. Any provocation in this direction is regarded as an attack on our territorial integrity.

- said in Baku.
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  1. And Makarov
    And Makarov 27 October 2020 15: 28
    33
    Something like a truce and does not smell
    1. figwam
      figwam 27 October 2020 15: 49
      11
      Quote: A Makarov
      Something like a truce and does not smell

      They really want to drag Russia into the war.
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            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 27 October 2020 18: 40
              +5
              Here you go.
              Azerbaijan said bluntly:
              "Why fight only in Karabakh? Let's fight all over our territory."
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 27 October 2020 20: 10
                +2
                Quote: Shurik70
                Here you go.
                Azerbaijan said bluntly:
                "Why fight only in Karabakh? Let's fight all over our territory."

                Throughout Azerbaijan?
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 27 October 2020 20: 13
                  +2
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  Throughout Azerbaijan?

                  Well, I suppose he meant "throughout the territory of Armenia."
                  But in fact, yes. He invited to bomb Baku and other cities of Azerbaijan.
                  1. 1976AG
                    1976AG 27 October 2020 20: 17
                    +1
                    Well, yes, Karabakh is on the territory of Azerbaijan
          2. 1976AG
            1976AG 27 October 2020 17: 44
            -6
            "And who has prevented little Armenia from developing and establishing international relations all these years?"

            So she developed contacts and lived quietly until Azerbaijan unleashed the war
            1. begemot20091
              begemot20091 28 October 2020 18: 18
              0
              what are you? Soros ran, looking for bigger markets, easier money. did they work when? they also lived in the USSR like Christ's bosom. that some, that others. here they lived for their own pleasure under the Russian wing, and now they wanted to be the tsars. but it was not there. the mind is not enough. I hope Russia is smart enough not to get involved in their internecine strife.
              1. bayard
                bayard 28 October 2020 18: 36
                +3
                And Russia does not interfere. Look, Pashinyan calls Putin four times a day, but he doesn't dance.
                By yourself, by yourself. They managed to start a conflict in 1989-90, in 1994 to squeeze 7 more regions from Azerbaijan ... Now prove that by the right of the strong you are right. Azerbaijan has every right to satisfaction, and legally it is in its own right. If you don't agree, fight.
                But YOURSELF.
                Without Russia and the CSTO.
                And on good terms - look for YOUR lands where they are historically - in Turkey. There you will find Ararat, Kars, Erzurum, and all the genuinely Armenian lands. Gather your entire diaspora, drop off on the common fund, announce mobilization, and forward to the Turk!
                For Russia, relations with Armenia and Azerbaijan are equivalent. And economically, Azerbaijan is much more interesting. So we will reconcile "when the bad blood goes down," as Kvachkov said, but for now - guys, put yourself together, but honestly - one on one. Without drawing in strangers.
                And may the Almighty judge you.
                1. begemot20091
                  begemot20091 28 October 2020 18: 37
                  0
                  I agree to all 100.
          3. Alexander 3
            Alexander 3 27 October 2020 21: 59
            0
            Striped in the way
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 16: 14
          -3
          Quote: Fungus
          The Azerbaijanis and Turks will have to give a little in the head. I see they are completely at odds.

          and what turned you on? Az-tsev's statement on the inviolability of borders and response to provocations?
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      2. icant007
        icant007 27 October 2020 17: 04
        +7
        Quote: figvam
        They really want to drag Russia into the war.


        The point is not that they want to involve Russia.
        Having reached the borders with Armenia, Azerbaijan finds itself in an ambiguous situation. There is no task to go further, but Armenia, for its part, may well strike at the az. forces. Azerbaijan naturally cannot but respond.
        Therefore, Aliyev declares that any provocation in the border zone with Armenia will be responded accordingly.
        Azerbaijan remembers how, in the previous war, starting in the fall of 1989, Azerbaijani villages on the border with Armenia were shelled, not at all in the Karabakh zone.

        But going back to the quote
        Quote: figvam
        They really want to drag Russia into the war.


        Most will perceive the situation in this way.
        1. atalef
          atalef 27 October 2020 17: 07
          +6
          Quote: icant007
          Having reached the borders with Armenia, Azerbaijan finds itself in an ambiguous situation.

          no ambiguous situation
          Quote: icant007
          There is no task to go further,

          of course
          Quote: icant007
          but Armenia, for its part, may well strike at az. forces. Azerbaijan naturally cannot but respond

          in this case, Armenia finds itself in an ambiguous situation because it acts as an aggressor in relation to a neighboring state, and in this case the provisions of the CSTO will not apply to it - Azerbaijan has carte blanche.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 27 October 2020 17: 59
            -1
            If Azerbaijan realizes its threats, no one will blame Armenia for the aggression, and Azerbaijan will really run into major military troubles.
          2. icant007
            icant007 27 October 2020 18: 20
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            in this case Armenia finds itself in an ambiguous situation


            Armenia has long been not so much in an ambiguous situation, but in three and four. )


            Quote: atalef
            Having reached the borders with Armenia, Azerbaijan finds itself in an ambiguous situation.

            no ambiguous situation

            I mean that in this situation Azerbaijan will be vulnerable to accusations of aggression against Armenia.
            We understand that this is not so. And for the mass media another scarecrow will appear.
      3. opuonmed
        opuonmed 27 October 2020 19: 33
        -1
        Quote: figvam
        Quote: A Makarov
        Something like a truce and does not smell

        They really want to drag Russia into the war.

        in geopolitics, the Turks are winning! (soon the base will start building there
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 27 October 2020 15: 29
    +2
    Baku has the right to strike at any military installations that threaten the territorial integrity of the republic. In this case, their location does not matter.

    Here already smacks of provocation. If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia, then Russia will be obliged to intervene in the conflict ..
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 27 October 2020 15: 38
      +6
      And if Armenia invades first, will we still defend it?
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 27 October 2020 16: 43
        +8
        DoCB. Article 4.
        If one of the participating states is subjected to aggression (an armed attack that threatens security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty)

        Accordingly, if she herself invades, then no.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 27 October 2020 16: 00
      25
      I wonder how she will have to do it. Start ironing Azerbaijan? Curious - what kind of smart guy signed a defense treaty with a country that has no borders with us and is in a smoldering military conflict? And most importantly - well, well, we will asphalt Azerbaijan, defend the Karabakh region, and - what will we get from this? What profit will Russia get from this act, besides the now fierce enemy in the person of a neighbor, to whom, in general, we had no complaints?
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 27 October 2020 16: 42
        32
        Quote: paul3390
        And most importantly - well, well, we will asphalt Azerbaijan, defend the Karabakh region, and - what will we get from this?

        A kick in the ass from the Armenians. "Thank you, we no longer need your services, we have new friends from NATO here." laughing
      2. icant007
        icant007 27 October 2020 17: 08
        0
        Quote: paul3390
        What profit will Russia get from this act,


        Yes, no. We, Russia, are losing in this situation anyway.
      3. icant007
        icant007 27 October 2020 17: 12
        +4
        Quote: paul3390
        Curious - what kind of smart guy signed a defense treaty with a country that has no borders with us and which is in a smoldering military conflict?


        So in the 90s, Azerbaijan was a member of the CSTO.
      4. begemot20091
        begemot20091 28 October 2020 18: 23
        0
        yes no. I hope that the military will throw off this idiot who was running around with a backpack. Well, I achieved power, and then what? was an ancient country with a historical past and ... they will erase it from the map of the world, if this fool still leads. with a month.
    3. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 27 October 2020 16: 14
      +6
      Here already smacks of provocation. If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia
      And if Armenia starts shelling Azerbaijani troops in Karabakh and gets a response?
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 27 October 2020 16: 48
        +5
        Quote: Trapp1st
        Here already smacks of provocation. If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia
        And if Armenia starts shelling Azerbaijani troops in Karabakh and gets a response?

        No - this is regarded as an attack on Azerbaijan
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 27 October 2020 18: 14
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Quote: Trapp1st
          Here already smacks of provocation. If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia
          And if Armenia starts shelling Azerbaijani troops in Karabakh and gets a response?

          No - this is regarded as an attack on Azerbaijan

          And who will determine who attacked whom? Take a word? They blame each other anyway. Whom to believe?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 27 October 2020 18: 19
            +7
            With great intelligence, the representative of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia has already announced that
            The Armenian Armed Forces took preventive measures in order to suppress the encroachments of Azerbaijan in the southern section of the border. The press secretary of the Minister of Defense Shushan Stepanyan informed about that. According to Stepanyan, the border units of Armenia launched a series of preventive strikes, causing significant damage to the Azerbaijani side.

            I also look in touch:
            A friend in Moscow is the smartest person
            Friends in Krasnodar are an intellectual / doctor, another is a creative businessman, a former athlete, and a titled one - all Armenians.
            And here - some level of a degenerate third world country, and from the representatives of the nation of chess players and professors, this is quite unexpected. Cheto is not right here ,,,
            1. icant007
              icant007 27 October 2020 18: 47
              +6
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Friends in Krasnodar are an intellectual / doctor, another is a creative businessman, a former athlete, and a titled one - all Armenians.
              And here - some level of a degenerate third world country, and from the representatives of the nation of chess players and professors, this is quite unexpected. Cheto is not right here ,,,


              Separately, they are quite nice people. But as soon as they get together, the collective mind begins to act)
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 27 October 2020 19: 10
                -1
                Well, why is it so indiscriminate? laughing
                1. icant007
                  icant007 27 October 2020 19: 16
                  +1
                  Yes, I didn't seem to offend anyone. I follow political correctness)
            2. Rubina
              Rubina 27 October 2020 19: 32
              +1
              So all the smart ones fled. What's unclear?
          2. icant007
            icant007 27 October 2020 18: 23
            +1
            Quote: 1976AG
            And who will determine who attacked whom? Take a word? They blame each other anyway. Whom to believe?


            Trust the VKS orbital group.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 27 October 2020 19: 05
              +1
              Quote: icant007
              Quote: 1976AG
              And who will determine who attacked whom? Take a word? They blame each other anyway. Whom to believe?


              Trust the VKS orbital group.

              I completely agree with you. But accusations of bias on either side are guaranteed to us.
    4. venik
      venik 27 October 2020 16: 32
      +8
      Quote: Svarog
      Here already smacks of provocation. If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia, then Russia will be obliged to intervene in the conflict ..

      =======
      Greetings, Vladimir! hi
      Alas! All this is so! Nobody has canceled the CSTO agreement yet! And Armenia, after all, is a member of the CSTO (unlike Azerbaijan) ... If strikes are launched on its territory ... They have the right to turn to the CSTO and Russia with a request for help (and most likely they will!). So WHAT to do here? To help - once and for all "get out" with Azerbaijan (the topic of Karabakh is very "sick" there) .... NOT to help - once and for all discredit the idea of ​​the CSTO .... Awkward, but the situation turns out ... request
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 27 October 2020 16: 43
        -1
        Quote: venik
        Awkward, but the situation turns out ...

        Yeah .. as a familiar welder-situevina said ... But the "strategists" had to think about it when Armenia was included in the CSTO .. ​​after all, this scenario was obvious .. I'm not saying that to count at least two step .. but in this case you don't need to do one step ..
        1. genisis
          genisis 27 October 2020 17: 16
          +1
          You are, apparently, quite young in age, since you think that
          Armenia was included in the CSTO

          The Collective Security Treaty Organization dates back to the conclusion of the Collective Security Treaty, which was signed in Tashkent (Uzbekistan) on May 15, 1992 by the heads of Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Later it was joined by Azerbaijan, Belarus and Georgia (1993). The treaty entered into force upon completion of the national ratification procedures on April 20, 1994.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 27 October 2020 17: 20
            -1
            Quote: genisis
            You are, apparently, quite young in age, since you think that
            Armenia was included in the CSTO

            The Collective Security Treaty Organization dates back to the conclusion of the Collective Security Treaty, which was signed in Tashkent (Uzbekistan) on May 15, 1992 by the heads of Armenia

            I can't be called young anymore and I don't see any connection at my age and what is the date of signing the agreement .. The Constitution was changed, and what prevents from making changes to the CSTO agreement?
            .. many countries have already withdrawn from the agreement .. in other words, the agreement can be adjusted ..
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 27 October 2020 18: 00
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              in other words, you can make adjustments to the contract.
              A contract that changes on the fly when it comes time to fulfill the obligations specified in it is not worth the paper on which it is written. This will be a clear signal to all other participants that they will not receive security guarantees here, and that they need to look for some other defense alliance (you can guess which one).
      2. KARAKURT777
        KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 17: 01
        0
        By the way, Azerbaijan had membership in the CSTO. Lost because of Armenia. It does not go into comparison.
      3. Old tanker
        Old tanker 27 October 2020 18: 02
        +2
        If Armenia strikes the Azerbaijani troops in Karabakh first, it will be an agremmore and the agreement does not work in this case.
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    5. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 27 October 2020 16: 46
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      Baku has the right to strike at any military installations that threaten the territorial integrity of the republic. In this case, their location does not matter.

      Here already smacks of provocation. If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia, then Russia will be obliged to intervene in the conflict ..

      No - it can only interfere with aggression unprovoked by direct military actions.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 27 October 2020 16: 53
        -4
        Quote: Krasnodar
        No - it can only interfere with aggression unprovoked by direct military actions.

        How shoud I understand this? War and provocation always keep pace .. If Azerbaijan considers that there is a threat coming from the territory of Armenia and opens fire on the territory of Armenia .. what is that? This is aggression against a member of the CSTO and nothing else .. No, of course, you can turn on the back one and start telling the Armenians and the whole world that this does not mean anything, an Azerbaijani rocket or plane accidentally fell / flew in .. but in any case it will look flawed in regarding the CSTO ..
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 27 October 2020 16: 59
          +4
          Armenians have already fired at Azerbaijanis from their territory. That is, they struck a blow at the troops of a foreign state on their own (de Jure) territory. Armenia is already an aggressor in this situation. The CSTO does not provide for the intervention of other parties to the treaty on the side of the aggressor hi
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 27 October 2020 17: 01
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Armenia is already an aggressor in this situation. The CSTO does not provide for the intervention of other parties to the treaty on the side of the aggressor

            In this case, yes .. hi
    6. KARAKURT777
      KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 16: 56
      -7
      Russia will intervene, and Turkey will intervene accordingly. Does Russia need IT?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 27 October 2020 17: 00
        +9
        Quote: KARAKURT777
        Russia will intervene, and Turkey will intervene accordingly. Does Russia need IT?

        Russia will intervene and Turkey will rebound .. Turkey needs it? But in this case, Russia, of course, does not need it .. but reading your commentary one might think that Turkey is a mega power ..
        1. KARAKURT777
          KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 17: 04
          -8
          Well, who knows already .. Do not underestimate Turkey. What is logical in your opinion, to trade, to be friends with Turkey or to kill each other because of Armenia?
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 27 October 2020 17: 17
        +2
        Quote: KARAKURT777
        Russia will intervene, and Turkey will intervene accordingly. Does Russia need IT?

        Yes, they had your Erdogan in mind - the question is in the decision of Russia, and not in the reaction of Turkey
        1. KARAKURT777
          KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 19: 53
          -1
          Russia has lost its mechanisms of solution. You can disagree, we'll see soon))
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 27 October 2020 20: 01
            +3
            Why did you lose? The dominant military force in the region. The question is whether she now needs to fit in for someone else - but that's different. The task is to show the former post-Soviet countries who needs whom more hi
      3. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 27 October 2020 17: 24
        +4
        Quote: KARAKURT777
        Russia will intervene, and Turkey will intervene accordingly. Does Russia need IT?

        It is unlikely that Russia will fear Turkey. The question is whether NATO will fit in for Turkey? Ertogan did everything to avoid being held. It's a good moment, they are busy in the US elections. In Israel, they remember the speech about Kudush. The French in contradiction with the Turks will accidentally make a mistake and do something bad to the Turks ... I think there will be understanding in Russian society.
    7. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 16: 58
      +1
      I agree. The Armenians, although they were stupid enough, nevertheless struck a blow on the territory of the NGO.
    8. atalef
      atalef 27 October 2020 17: 10
      +3
      Quote: Svarog
      If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia, then Russia will be obliged to intervene in the conflict.

      no, first observers from the CSTO will be sent (the fact of the shelling still needs to be confirmed and proved), then the conclusions will be considered at a meeting of the CSTO members, and only then the CSTO reaction will follow
      but given
      The CSTO includes Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan

      as it seems to me - there will be no consensus.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 17
        0
        By the way, it will be interesting to watch the Asian young democracies. Who will have what kind of reaction.
    9. oprovergatel
      oprovergatel 27 October 2020 17: 29
      +1
      Why is this?

      If the blow is struck first from the territory of Armenia on the Azerbaijanis, then the Armenians are the aggressors. And no one is obliged to protect them. The CSTO is a defensive alliance.
      1. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 27 October 2020 17: 54
        +3
        So, de jure, Armenians are already fighting on the territory of Karabakh, which, again, is legally aggression. I see a single original way out of this. In view of the obvious sorority policy of Armenia and on the condition that it is conducting military operations on the territory of another country, it is necessary to put to a vote the question of excluding Armenia from the CSTO. as everyone will vote, so it will be, not only Russia is in the CSTO. Well, if someone from the participating countries votes for the preservation of Armenia in the treaty, let this country introduce its troops to Armenia and protect the Armenians. You never know, maybe Kazakhstan or Belarus needs Pashinyan's Armenia so much that they will decide to fight for them. that will help the Armenians from the CSTO. And Russia should abstain from voting .. Whatever then claims, how the CSTO decides the rest, let them do it themselves.
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        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 October 2020 16: 52
          -6
          If you are merging in a war, then at least do it with dignity.
        2. KARAKURT777
          KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 17: 10
          +2
          Comrades from the West asked you about the dismantling of the monument to the Soviet liberators of Bulgaria in the Lozenetsky district of Sofia, you satisfied (their or their wishlist, no difference) So it makes no sense to interfere here.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 27 October 2020 18: 05
            +1
            to dismantle the monument to the Soviet liberators of Bulgaria in the Lozenetsky district of Sofia, the comrades from the West asked you,


            The monument is there. And not only there, but the mayor's office repaired it in the summer. Now it shines like a polished samovar. Here it is during the renovation:


            Odin knows how you were hired for this job ... laughing
        3. KARAKURT777
          KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 17: 12
          0
          Also at the request (and maybe at the direction) of comrades from across the ocean))
          The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed regret in connection with the announcement of the employees of the Russian trade mission in Bulgaria as persona non grata and announced the preparation of retaliatory measures. This was reported on the website of the department.
          "We express our regret in connection with the decision of the official Sofia to declare the employees of the Russian trade mission in Bulgaria persona non grata on the basis of trumped-up charges."
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 16: 09
      -1
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Turkish sixes amaze with impudence.

      and what is impudent in the statement
      The inviolability of the state border must be ensured. Any provocation in this direction is regarded as an attack on our territorial integrity.

      ?
      1. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 17: 06
        +2
        Nothing arrogant. This is a status confirmation. This is the official border of Azerbaijan. In Armenia they overreached, they did not recognize NGOs, they outsmarted themselves.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 24
        +1
        Like what?! How dare he decide something at home without our permission ?!
    3. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 27 October 2020 16: 21
      -9
      Six is ​​your breed, which has been pleasing the Turks for centuries ..
    4. KARAKURT777
      KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 17: 06
      0
      How can you describe yourself? And then like a hut, to Russia in front, and back to NATO. You yourself won't last long in this stance. Nobody else has tainted Russia anymore!
    5. Rubina
      Rubina 27 October 2020 19: 43
      -1
      "They amaze with impudence"! Thanks for the praise.
  4. sergo1914
    sergo1914 27 October 2020 15: 34
    +2
    That is unlikely.
  5. mark2
    mark2 27 October 2020 15: 39
    +6
    Baku, it seems, has bitten the bit. The joy of tactical victories overshadowed the eyes. Just idiocy, of some kind.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 October 2020 16: 22
      +2
      Quote: mark2
      Baku, it seems, has bitten the bit. The joy of tactical victories overshadowed the eyes. Just idiocy, of some kind.

      But while they are on horseback.
      1. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 17: 11
        +3
        Did the Mossad give you a tip?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 27 October 2020 17: 39
          0
          Quote: Alexander Kopychev
          Did the Mossad give you a tip?

          Pakahey Iriyah - they are hated even in Israel itself sad
          1. Alexander Kopychev
            Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 17: 51
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Pakahei Iria

            This is the first time I've heard and Google hasn't helped belay
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 27 October 2020 18: 00
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Kopychev
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Pakahei Iria

              This is the first time I've heard and Google hasn't helped belay
              try this - פקחי עיריה
              1. Alexander Kopychev
                Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 19: 35
                0
                It worked, I visited the office. site, nothing seditious (Google translation) did not find, well, that's understandable. Lots of articles about the fight against the traffic police, something like "blue buckets" wassat did not delve into. It will take a lot of time to work out the issue. But thank you for the information. hi
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 27 October 2020 19: 57
                  +3
                  Parking fines are collected laughing Sorry, poked you hi
      2. mark2
        mark2 27 October 2020 20: 36
        -4
        But while they are on horseback.

        They are exactly the same horse that bit the bit.
        Turkey is a rider.
        I, how to say it, thought that the president, king, tsar, secretary general, chancellor is, first of all, a rather smart person, because going through the crucible of competitive political struggle and becoming the first after God in your country is worth a lot. Those. Heads of state are the most intelligent and cunning.
        But the example of Ukraine, Armenia and Azerbaijan, where power passed to the incumbent, by inheritance from the pope, simply because he is also Aliyev, led me to the idea that in the 21st century the sovereigns have suffered.
        And an example of this is the sudden, very sudden and sharp exacerbation of the conflict, which was in the stage of permanent. Aliyev, who started and is developing this war, like Pashinyan, can no longer control what is happening. The army does not obey them and, as it will soon become clear, neither do the pro-Turkish fighters. They are extras, talking heads, going with the flow. Nothing depends on them anymore.
        Both have no authority in the country, because they did not get power in a political struggle, but because the card fell like that. Pashinyan with the money of the West, Aliyev, by right of the surname
  6. Scipio
    Scipio 27 October 2020 15: 46
    +8
    Is that how Turkey gives Baku a spirit? Attacking Armenia itself, it is already fraught with getting from the turntable to the jaw from Russia
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 27 October 2020 15: 56
      +6
      Is that how Turkey gives Baku a spirit?


      They are such Turks ... the 14th century ... they understand only and only in brute force. I remember in 1989, when half a million Turks were driven out of Bulgaria, in Ankara they began to twirl, moo, screech, and we simply mobilized the army and displaced it on alarm to the Turkish border, the planes went to the GDP, the rocket troops took to positions and the Turks shut up in a rag right away ... And since then they've got a lot of audacity, they've completely lost the shores.
      1. Rubina
        Rubina 27 October 2020 17: 31
        -2
        That is, is it normal to take and expel half a million Turks 100 years after Bulgaria gained independence? And how did it all end?
        1. Turkey has the most powerful army in NATO
        2. How did the Bulgarians thank you? Ahh, fled at the first opportunity to Europe and NATO.
        3. Is Bulgaria thriving? I was in Sofia a couple of years ago for work, a sad Soviet town. In addition to the Alexander Nevsky Cathedral, there is nothing to see. And Sunny Beach is dilapidated. The Turks would remain, they would attract investments from Turkey and there would be a luxury resort, like in Batumi. Turks can do it.
        Somehow
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        2. Rubina
          Rubina 27 October 2020 19: 47
          +2
          Again we have minus. Well, okay, but read it
          1. mark2
            mark2 27 October 2020 20: 38
            0
            Don't be offended by the locals. They are moody. I'll give you a plus.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 27 October 2020 17: 44
        +3
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Is that how Turkey gives Baku a spirit?


        They are such Turks ... the 14th century ... they understand only and only in brute force. I remember in 1989, when half a million Turks were driven out of Bulgaria, in Ankara they began to twirl, moo, screech, and we simply mobilized the army and displaced it on alarm to the Turkish border, the planes went to the GDP, the rocket troops took to positions and the Turks shut up in a rag right away ... And since then they've got a lot of audacity, they've completely lost the shores.

        Sharp how))
        In the 70s, under the Greek "Black Colonels", after the concentration of the Armed Forces of Hellas on the borders with Bulgaria, the warlike ardor of the Greeks came to naught after the deployment of units of the USSR Airborne Forces on Bulgarian territory hi
      3. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 27 October 2020 19: 39
        +2
        "I remember in 1989, when half a million Turks were driven out of Bulgaria." Ethno-hating ub ... be proud of this. What is nothing ... Exactly a copy of the Armenian natsim. Moral bottom.
      4. vitvit123
        vitvit123 27 October 2020 20: 34
        +1
        - I remember in 1989, when half a million Turks were driven out of Bulgaria--

        Impressive !!! smiled, even laughed with pleasure .... thank you!
    2. KARAKURT777
      KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 17: 15
      +2
      And what, Armenia is the navel of the Earth? You can attack her, but not Azerbaijan? Funny you however)))
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 27
        0
        Quote: KARAKURT777
        You can attack her, but not Azerbaijan?

        Exactly. Because Armenians are smart and beautiful.
        1. KARAKURT777
          KARAKURT777 29 October 2020 16: 14
          0
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Quote: KARAKURT777
          You can attack her, but not Azerbaijan?

          Exactly. Because Armenians are smart and beautiful.

          What is true is true! I have no objection!

  7. hydroy
    hydroy 27 October 2020 15: 49
    -3
    Well, Baku doesn't need to do this! Like Armenians, it is a shame if they shot at Ganja!
  8. hydroy
    hydroy 27 October 2020 15: 50
    -11 qualifying.
    But in general, let them shoot along the border, deep into the base of the Russian Federation)
  9. Scipio
    Scipio 27 October 2020 15: 53
    -5
    In general, we must act smartly, quietly support Armenia with good weapons, create conditions for Baku to get stuck in a swamp and pull Turkey together, and also provide support for the Kurds. You can still help the Greeks in the looming conflict. Help in the fight against Turkey in Syria and Libya. As a result, Turkey will receive 5 fronts, then a Russian bear will come and finally crush a Turkish tomato, capturing Istanbul, it's a pity I'm not solving such issues)))
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 16: 02
      +2
      Don't you feel sorry for our boys? Will he seize Istanbul?) So many of our boys will be killed in the slaughter. Now, if there is no other way out, then I understand, but you don't need to do this yourself!
      1. Scipio
        Scipio 27 October 2020 16: 10
        +2
        Don't worry, I've thought of everything. When the time comes to capture Istanbul, there will be no one to defend it) You just need to come and take)
        1. Konnick
          Konnick 27 October 2020 16: 19
          -18 qualifying.
          Go and take it, and I will go to rest in Turkey.
          1. Scipio
            Scipio 27 October 2020 16: 27
            +7
            A tablecloth path) To the tomato sultan, hello from me)
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 27 October 2020 16: 53
              -2
              Quote: Scipio
              A tablecloth path) To the tomato sultan, hello from me)

              From you and from one hundred thousand Armenians living in Turkey laughing
        2. hydroy
          hydroy 27 October 2020 16: 41
          -4
          class, one of the most efficient armies in the Middle East, and will give you Istanbul, having even 5 fronts. Lyra will be ruined, but their army is unlikely! For your plan to come into effect, you need NATO countries to approve and close their eyes. And thousands more Russian boys will die, "capturing" Istanbul. Therefore, when we were attacked openly, I will understand this or help the same Greece in which case, but it will be morally difficult to expand on our own! )
          1. Sergey M. Karasev
            Sergey M. Karasev 27 October 2020 16: 49
            +4
            or help the same Greece if something happens

            No really! The Greeks are definitely not our friends to intercede for them. let the French seek help.
            1. hydroy
              hydroy 27 October 2020 16: 57
              -3
              The Greeks are not friends, but in the case of a big kipish, we can already openly help, despite the fact that it is also NATO) France will help, but then the map will turn! If asked, it's worth helping!
              1. Sergey M. Karasev
                Sergey M. Karasev 27 October 2020 17: 19
                +2
                And if Armenia asks for help, will we refuse? Or will we help, but only against Turkey, without touching Azerbaijan? And how do you imagine this help if the Turks do not openly climb into the current war?
                We have someone to stand up for even without the Greeks. The only question is: is it worth it?
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          2. Scipio
            Scipio 27 October 2020 17: 23
            -1
            I wrote above, when the time comes to defend Istanbul, there will be no one) dissolve or scatter your one of the most efficient armies in the Middle East) no one is going to attack head-on
          3. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 30
            +2
            Let the French help the Greeks. And we'd better stock up on popcorn and watch on the zomboyaschik how two NATO countries pound a third.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 16: 11
      0
      Quote: Scipio
      sorry I'm not solving such questions)))

      on the contrary, it is very good that idiots are not allowed to resolve such issues.
      1. Scipio
        Scipio 27 October 2020 16: 14
        -1
        You are probably just one of the clever guys who do not understand jokes)
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 16: 17
          -6
          Quote: Scipio
          You are probably just one of the clever guys who do not understand jokes)

    3. Selevc
      Selevc 27 October 2020 16: 19
      +2
      Quote: Scipio
      In general, we must act smartly, quietly support Armenia with good weapons, create conditions for Baku to get stuck in a swamp and pull Turkey together, and also provide support for the Kurds.

      Interesting - how do you imagine this purely technically ??? Probably never seen a map of the Caucasus ??? and do not know about the geographical features of the location of the state of Armenia ??? And these features are very specific, to put it mildly !!!
      1. Scipio
        Scipio 27 October 2020 16: 30
        +2
        Unfortunately, I can’t tell you the whole plan, because I’m afraid there are foreign spies on the site and thus prevent them from getting ready. Don't worry, the main thing is desire, but we will create opportunities)
    4. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 17: 21
      0
      Quote: Scipio
      In general, you need to act smartly, quietly

      In this the Anglo-Saxons are unsurpassed masters ("... the Englishwoman crap ..."). Ours rarely succeed.
      1. Scipio
        Scipio 27 October 2020 17: 38
        +2
        So I propose to do the same, we will study, the opportunity for this has appeared!
    5. Rubina
      Rubina 27 October 2020 17: 34
      -5
      Arms and officers are already helping. Where to get a soldier? In Armenia, old people, children and women are put under arms.
      1. mark2
        mark2 27 October 2020 20: 44
        +3
        Arms and officers are already helping. Where to get a soldier? In Armenia, old people, children and women are put under arms.


        What a strange question? in the markets of Moscow, along the Black Sea coast of Russia to collect. Here they are all. One name is proud Armenians. Homeland is on fire, and they are doing business fool
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 28 October 2020 00: 02
          +1
          A significant part of Russian Armenians have never been to Armenia either.
  10. 547807955
    547807955 27 October 2020 15: 56
    0
    Yes, Baku has prepared for war and the advisers are smart. Almost like the 41st, only the Armenians and Stalin have no Far Eastern divisions.
  11. Radapupin
    Radapupin 27 October 2020 15: 59
    +2
    Guys, I don't understand you, let's say Poland, which will hit Russia in NATO, what will Russia do? Will you watch?
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 27 October 2020 18: 04
      +6
      the question is more interesting, but what would Armenia have done, it would have hit Poland? Something I have a strong suspicion that in this case Pashinyan would sit quietly and would not shine, as if I was not mine and the cart was not mine.
  12. certero
    certero 27 October 2020 16: 02
    +2
    Quote: Fungus
    Azerbaijanis and Turks will have to give a little in the head
    I'm sure you've already volunteered.
  13. certero
    certero 27 October 2020 16: 04
    +3
    Quote: mark2
    The joy of tactical victories overshadowed the eyes. Just idiocy, of some kind.

    Not at all. Azerbaijan fears most of all that Russia will intervene. Because this will immediately zero out all his achievements.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2020 16: 56
      +3
      And Russia will not interfere. Putin put an end to this issue.
      1. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 17: 24
        +6
        The point will be when the guns are silent, but for now ...?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 October 2020 19: 59
          +2
          Our weapons are silent - and it is not our conflict that will keep silent, it is not for us to rake it up.
  14. Master
    Master 27 October 2020 16: 04
    +1
    Quote: Fungus
    The Azerbaijanis and Turks will have to give a little in the head. I see that they are completely at odds. We felt ourselves powerful in front of little Armenia.

    Yes. And send you first. The fungus wanted war. There only the keyboard will not be able to fight. Here direct personal advisers to Putin began to appear. The political course of Russia is being built. Well, figs with him that Turkey is the second country in NATO in terms of combat capability. Of course, there is no doubt that if Russia takes it seriously, it can give it to Turkey. But at what price. And most importantly for what? Because of Armenia hmm.
  15. maktub
    maktub 27 October 2020 16: 12
    -7
    Wow, the last paragraph is the "veiled threat" of war already to Armenia
    Prepare for war: - on one side Armenia-Russia, on the other Azerbaijan-Turkey
    They will drag you into a confrontation with Turkey. Erdogan not without reason stated that in the event of a third party's intervention, Turkey will be the fourth.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 27 October 2020 16: 26
      +5
      Armenia is already beginning to irritate with its obsession and desire to tie Russia into the conflict. Turks and Azerbaijanis are peace-loving people at the present time, it is Erdogan who forgot Ataturk's behests to never fight with Russia. But today is Erdogan, and tomorrow is different. I talked with the Turks and Kurds, they respect us, in contrast to the "proud" Armenians, who like to tease dogs with a stranger.
      1. maktub
        maktub 27 October 2020 16: 40
        -6
        In the event of a retaliatory strike on the territory of Armenia (which will be regarded as an act of direct aggression), the CSTO will have to intervene, otherwise any collective security treaties are worthless
        Tsutswang however.
        It remains to be hoped that the "threat" will remain only a "threat.
        1. Konnick
          Konnick 27 October 2020 16: 44
          +1
          Those. Will the Armenians provoke shelling from their territory so that Russia stands up for them? Look for the fool for four soldo.
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 27 October 2020 16: 52
            -1
            I agree, Armenians should lose with dignity, what else do they need! Weapons? Russia, according to Aliyev, transmits everything for free! Cornets are not 90s ATGM. Iskander? were! why spend them on the civilian population, it's just nonsense! Let them shoot at the border ... Just tell Aliyev that he shouldn't shoot deeper, and ask the Armenians not to frame us!
          2. maktub
            maktub 27 October 2020 16: 54
            -7
            Where will you go if you do not interfere, "lose face" and the CSTO will fall apart
            1. atalef
              atalef 27 October 2020 16: 59
              +3
              Quote: maktub
              Where will you go if you do not interfere, "lose face" and the CSTO will fall apart

              I really see this situation. like Lukashenka there and other CSTO members - just like a bouquet in the face - and they knocked out of the CSTO because of Karabakh.
              By the way. The CSTO will collapse, but what about Armenia? laughing
              To whom will you appeal?
              1. maktub
                maktub 27 October 2020 17: 17
                -3
                Yes, I am somehow equally to whom the parties will appeal
                Now imagine how the world will react (who was invited there as an observer) if the scenario of a retaliatory strike on the territory of Armenia (an act of aggression) develops and the CSTO does not intervene. I have not seen the text of the Tashkent Treaty, but I think that there are cases of interference
                1. atalef
                  atalef 27 October 2020 17: 31
                  +2
                  Quote: maktub
                  Now imagine how the world will react (who was invited there as an observer) if the scenario of a retaliatory strike on the territory of Armenia (an act of aggression) develops and the CSTO does not intervene.

                  no way.
                  And those who have their heads in place, absolutely understand that Armenia is to blame for this. And they want to drag Russia into a showdown like, uncle, give me a smoke.

                  Quote: maktub
                  "I have not seen the Tashkent agreement, but I think that there are cases of interference

                  I have not seen, but I condemn.
                  laughing
                  familiar.
                  1. maktub
                    maktub 27 October 2020 17: 43
                    -2
                    Irony is not appropriate here.
                    I propose that the decision will be collegial and what it will be, God only knows (there are such concepts as the "spirit" of the law and the "letter of the law)
                    1. maktub
                      maktub 27 October 2020 19: 08
                      -1
                      Ugly T9, "Not suggesting, but guessing", sorry
                    2. atalef
                      atalef 27 October 2020 19: 26
                      +1
                      Quote: maktub
                      I propose that the decision will be collegial and what it will be, God alone knows (there are such concepts as "spirit" of the law and "letter of the law)

                      law that drawbar ..
                      but in general, no one has canceled the sense of the bad and it is stupid to get into the war. just because the shell fell on Armenia - no one will.
                      1. maktub
                        maktub 27 October 2020 19: 36
                        -2
                        Well, we understand that the "law is like a drawbar" mentality is almost the same laughing
                        And in the West, for example, they fulfill the contract from now on, no one will risk their reputation unnecessarily
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 27 October 2020 19: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: maktub
                        And in the West, for example, they fulfill the contract from now on, no one will risk their reputation unnecessarily

                        come on
                        Budapest memorandum
                        The Memorandum on Security Guarantees in connection with Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) is an interstate document on security guarantees in connection with Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, UK and USA.
                      3. maktub
                        maktub 27 October 2020 19: 58
                        -1
                        I want to disappoint you, the memorandum, unlike the contract, is not binding. This is something like a "common view", a protocol of intent
                        Probably the rejection of nuclear weapons was the price of independence
                      4. kamakama
                        kamakama 28 October 2020 10: 43
                        0
                        Read what the Bretton Woods Agreement is, and then what the Nixon Shock is and why de Gaulle pulled the country out of NATO. Contracts are also wiped up there, and doing it very painfully. Financially, true, but there was nothing left of the person. About Czechoslovakia with Poland before WWII, I think you yourself know
                      5. maktub
                        maktub 28 October 2020 11: 52
                        0
                        I read about the "Munich Agreement", but you must make an allowance for the time. I don't remember the precedent of an "external" attack on a NATO country and we cannot judge the reaction
    2. maktub
      maktub 27 October 2020 17: 00
      -4
      I even see the TASS blanks: - "Russia is faithful to its allied duty ..." and further in the text
      It remains to hope for the prudence of the parties to the conflict
    3. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2020 17: 43
      0
      Where will you go

      And you, sir, are so impatient for us to intervene?
      1. maktub
        maktub 27 October 2020 17: 51
        0
        Believe me, sir, as I wrote above, I am absolutely equal in what you will do in this situation.
        I try to "calculate" the scenario for myself
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 33
    +1
    Quote: Konnick
    Turks and Azerbaijanis are peace-loving people at present

    Yes of course. You quickly forgot about the murder of the Russian pilot. And about Turkey's demarches in Syria.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 28 October 2020 02: 10
      0
      Contact you, I did not drink vodka with you. Which pilot? Was that in Turkey? Or Azerbaijan?
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 27 October 2020 18: 03
    0
    Armenia is not with Russia but with FSH.
    1. maktub
      maktub 27 October 2020 18: 16
      -1
      Is there an agreement with FSH too?
      And what will the CST's reputation be (if you look at the "letter of the law")?
      Who else was invited to join, India, Pakistan (I don't remember exactly)?
      And how will they react?
      (I do not call anywhere, I do not drag in anywhere, thoughts out loud)
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 28 October 2020 08: 07
        0
        do not care reputation
  • Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 27 October 2020 16: 16
    +6
    This will be a serious exam for the CSTO.
    1. ultra
      ultra 27 October 2020 16: 43
      +8
      This will be a complete fiasco for the CSTO. If intervention is required, then no one except Russia will participate.
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      This will be a serious exam for the CSTO
      1. Fedor Sokolov
        Fedor Sokolov 27 October 2020 18: 27
        0
        Unfortunately you are right!
  • Airdefense
    Airdefense 27 October 2020 16: 19
    0
    Well, here it is, if the war begins Armenia-Azerbaijan, well, destroy each other with missile strikes, a thermal power plant, chemical. objects worth it is a big question.
    1. Turist1996
      Turist1996 27 October 2020 16: 29
      +2
      A nuclear power plant would not have been hit by an accident. In this case, all parties to the conflict will not find it enough!
  • Turist1996
    Turist1996 27 October 2020 16: 28
    +7
    Something on VO is straight with a shaft of articles with statements from the Azerbaijani side, and the Armenian side - at least. Is it the parties to the conflict themselves that work in the information field, or are there many authors engaged by the Azerbaijani side in VO?
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 October 2020 17: 00
      +4
      Quote: Turist1996
      Something on VO is straight with a shaft of articles with statements from the Azerbaijani side, and the Armenian side - at least

      Armenians are silent.
      Just a retreat requires silence.
    2. saigon
      saigon 27 October 2020 17: 06
      +5
      Probably a greater number of Azerbaijanis know how to write in Russian, so they write.
    3. Cottager452
      Cottager452 27 October 2020 17: 12
      +5
      Even a tenth of the epithets that Armenians and their country are given here are enough to stop communication, as, indeed, for any decent person.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 27 October 2020 17: 50
        +2
        Quote: Summer Resident452
        Even a tenth of the epithets that Armenians and their country are given here are enough to stop communication, as, indeed, for any decent person.

        Come on - all Armenian men are at the front. soldier
    4. icant007
      icant007 27 October 2020 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: Turist1996
      Something on VO is straight with a shaft of articles with statements from the Azerbaijani side, and the Armenian side - at least.


      No, it's just that the Armenian side has nothing to say for itself, except for nodding towards Turkey and Russia. Now the banal logic of common sense is against Armenia.
    5. genisis
      genisis 27 October 2020 23: 38
      +1
      Azerbaijan has allocated a budget to work with Russian media.
      Not so long ago I read an "analytical" article on VO "Tactics of the parties to the conflict in Karabakh". The article is slag, not a word about tactics, in which the author, apparently, does not understand anything, but is full of bravura reports about the Azerbaijani Armed Forces.
      When the author was asked in the comments where in the article about tactics and why not a word about the actions of the Armenian Armed Forces?
      The answer impressed with his childlike spontaneity: “There was no order about Armenia”))
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 16: 34
    +4
    With all due respect to the VO came-décor - there are a lot of comments in the spirit of "They want to drag Russia into it !!", "and if the az-cy will shoot across Armenia, Russia must will intervene ...automatic!!! ", etc. Well, let's leave this strange, to put it mildly, interpretation of the DOKB, but - why don't these commentators go further - offer your vision interventions Armed Forces of Russia. Draw on the map with felt-tip pens - from where, where, how, and the hypothetical development of the Russian-Armenian-Azerbaijani-Turkish (insert as necessary) war. Honestly, just curious. "Die erste Kolonne marschiert, die zweite .....", "calibers" from the Caspian Sea, Baku in ruins ... Only without nuclear mushrooms - this is clearly superfluous.
    Thank you in advance.
    S.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 27 October 2020 16: 45
      +1
      Paragraph Epitateevich Y-these plans have already been sent to the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense of the country wassat !!!
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 16: 52
        +1
        Quote: Thrifty
        these plans have already been sent to the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense of the country

        How???? Even without discussion with the Cameras ???
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 27 October 2020 17: 33
          +1
          The paragraph Epitatevich Y is not negotiable lol , because to discuss such a thing is to cripple your brain drinks wassat
    2. ultra
      ultra 27 October 2020 16: 45
      +1
      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Draw with felt-tip pens on the map - where, where, how

      Well, purely hypothetically, we have a kind of border with Azerbaijan, plus the Caspian Flotilla.
    3. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 16: 47
      -3
      The entry condition is two: strikes on objects of particular value: the Yerevan nuclear power plant, hydroelectric power plants, peaceful settlements in the depths of the conflict, shelling of Yerevan, and most importantly a strike on the Russian base 102. "enemy: Turkey or Azerbaijan does not matter. The shelling of border points and bases, honestly, is not an excuse for an operation of the RF Armed Forces against the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan)
      1. Cottager452
        Cottager452 27 October 2020 17: 03
        0
        Exactly how Hitler was "held back" until the beginning of the 2nd MV.
        1. hydroy
          hydroy 27 October 2020 17: 09
          0
          What can we do? say you Aliyev or Erdogan - Hitler and get hit! So?)
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 17: 03
        -3
        There is only one condition for joining - Armenia's request to the CSTO for help in connection with external aggression (under aggression, okay, let's assume all these horrors that you described here). Then consultations within the CSTO and, with consensus, a declaration of intentions.
        But that's not what I mean. I'm curious to hear the specific fantasies of respected soferals. How an entrapped Russia will force Azeroturks to peace.
        1. hydroy
          hydroy 27 October 2020 17: 19
          +1
          If there is an acute conflict, then an obstacle to the movement of Turks and Azebraizhants in the Nakhichevan region, a plan for the successful capture of Baku and the Azerbaijani government with the signing of a capitulation and enforcement of peace. but for this I say: a blow to Yerevan or a blow to the base! Where will the Russian officers die, so that Russia will leave it? or open aggression is already a war, what will the CSTO consider there, how will the 102 thousandth Turkish army stationed in Nakhichevan be ironed out?
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 17: 53
            -1
            Quote: hydroy
            a plan for the successful capture of Baku and the Azerbaijani government with the signing of a capitulation and enforcement of peace

            ah, I got it, I got it.
            Like this:
            1. hydroy
              hydroy 27 October 2020 18: 35
              -2
              yeah, Caliber on the radar and the aircraft fleet with air defense, Baku is ours, no one will wait) Well, and block the road to the Turks, who will rush to help. But this is unlikely to happen)
              1. KARAKURT777
                KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 20: 06
                -1
                They will organize such a caliber for you that you will not forget until the lid of the coffin wink
                1. hydroy
                  hydroy 27 October 2020 20: 44
                  0
                  Well, what am I talking about, in which case, the Caliber will fly to the air defense systems of Azerbaijan, Zircons to the aircraft fleet, and of course first to the Israeli LORs and other MLRS so that the Desat Carbels are not sunk during transportation to Baku. Without aviation and air defense, do what you want
            2. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 47
              0
              good Your strategic genius commands respect. Somehow I did not think about the cognac factory at all.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 October 2020 20: 55
                -2
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Somehow I did not think about the cognac factory at all.

                I'm glad I liked the impromptu)
                I don't care at all, but I have to paint the arrows for these local napoleons)
                By the way, the Armenians claim that Murat (yes, that one) was an Armenian. And Le Figaro threw a bit of firewood by throwing a myth about Napoleon's alleged Caucasian genes.
                So, comrade, I need to be careful with the descendants of the titans! laughing
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 44
          0
          In calibers. The most fashionable nowadays from what is massively, and not at the test stage with frightening cartoons. Let’s burn for the joy of our oil and gas industry if we are busy with oil and other gas fields.
      3. saigon
        saigon 27 October 2020 17: 12
        -1
        Why are you so bloodthirsty, yesterday you just showed up on the site and give you bloodshed.
        Who in their right mind will beat the peace and nuclear power plant, who?
        Why do this, come to your senses and reduce the passion for destruction.
        1. hydroy
          hydroy 27 October 2020 17: 21
          0
          I just what could be! Obviously, if they shoot at the border, hell we'll need to intervene!
          1. saigon
            saigon 27 October 2020 17: 32
            0
            About what you are talking about, this is no longer fiction, but something cooler. Understand that the president of a country cannot be a clinical idiot, but what you describe is forgive the clinic.
            Just ask yourself the question why such actions and what are the benefits and benefits - the answer is not any.
            All you can close the topic.
            And frankly I did not understand your phrase, we will need to interfere!
            1. hydroy
              hydroy 27 October 2020 18: 38
              +1
              Well, who knows what Aliyev will do when the Armenians start to iron them from Armenia, a week ago he hit the installations in Armenia itself and transferred the drones to the border with Armenia. Moreover, he has ENTs for strikes, so this will fly towards the base, it will hurt, it will be knocked down, but still there will be a sediment)
            2. hydroy
              hydroy 27 October 2020 18: 41
              0
              I'm talking about the CSTO operation, of course now there will be a shootout on the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan ...
      4. genisis
        genisis 27 October 2020 23: 47
        +1
        There is only one condition - a request must be received from the Armenian side, which will be considered and a collective decision will be made on it by the CSTO Headquarters.
        However, at the end of 2016, the Ministers of Defense of the Russian Federation and Armenia signed the "Agreement on the Joint Grouping of Troops (Forces)" according to which the joint grouping begins to operate until a decision is made by other CSTO members. The group includes military unit 04436 and an air fighter squadron based at the Erebuni airfield.
    4. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 17: 33
      0
      On VO everything your heart desires ... And "who is supposed to" have long been drawn, well, just in case.
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  • APASUS
    APASUS 27 October 2020 16: 40
    +5
    So the foundation is laid for a future military conflict
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    2. MTN
      MTN 27 October 2020 17: 13
      -4
      Useless.
    3. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 27 October 2020 17: 37
      0
      The result of the balanced policy of the Father - the Son ...
    4. Cottager452
      Cottager452 27 October 2020 17: 39
      -1
      You just scratch smoothly like a political officer, only he gets sleepy.
  • Cottager452
    Cottager452 27 October 2020 16: 55
    -3
    Cunning Armenians persuaded Aliyev to drag Russia into the war.
  • Trojan_wolf
    Trojan_wolf 27 October 2020 17: 10
    0
    Russia should have enough common sense and not be led by provocations.
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 27 October 2020 17: 28
      -2
      Never was, and here again ...
      "not to give in to provocations", then "treacherous attack", "brothers and sisters", order N227 and everything in a new circle.
  • bzbo
    bzbo 27 October 2020 17: 20
    0
    What will Zhorik Sorosyan answer?
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 27 October 2020 17: 47
      0
      Whimpering to the West.
      First Prime Minister of Armenia Manukyan called on Pashinyan to resign and hand over power to the military.
  • Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 27 October 2020 17: 21
    +2
    Quote: KARAKURT777
    Russia will intervene, and Turkey will intervene accordingly. Does Russia need IT?

    The Turkish sultan has already intervened, sending help to Azer in the form of drones and Syrian pro-Turkish babakhs, while pursuing their interests in the reconstruction of the sultanate that has sunk into oblivion. the Azeri will pay more from such help from his "Turkish brother". wassat
    1. Trojan_wolf
      Trojan_wolf 27 October 2020 19: 13
      -2
      And why cry, Azerbaijan is consciously striving to embrace Turkey and share his fate with her. And everything will be difficult ...
    2. KARAKURT777
      KARAKURT777 27 October 2020 20: 11
      +3
      Why not? Help is so help. And Russia does not give Armenia anything except Tula gingerbread, right? I am amazed at the one-sidedness. So Russia has been feeding Armenia for 30 years now, and what, hasn't it? And it does not run out!
  • Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 27 October 2020 18: 10
    0
    120 will be expelled from Karabakh (there is enough space in the new Nerezinova), and then everyone from the LPR. Dashing trouble start (s) ...
    1. Kuzmitsky
      27 October 2020 19: 35
      +4
      It is troublesome to expel everyone from the LPR
  • Abdula
    Abdula 27 October 2020 18: 28
    0
    There is nothing for Russia to get involved in the war, your air defense system does not seem to work with the Armenians, they have Sores and the largest American embassy in Armenia, we will reach Yerevan and change Pashenyan and there will be no more Sores
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 18: 43
      -2
      come on, you won't decide for Russia, the general air defense is not necessary, we just gouge your air defense and aircraft fleet and our sky, do what you want, you will not do anything, and the Turkish air force simply will not be allowed to the "younger" brother
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2020 20: 02
      +2
      It works great for Russia, but for Armenia it will not work because the rubbish is outdated and the calculations are full of brakes, in other ways, like the entire command.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 27 October 2020 19: 31
    -1
    this is a war declaration ???????
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 27 October 2020 19: 34
    -1
    near the side of the Russian Federation is not profitable, this whole situation will have to gouge everyone)))
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2020 20: 04
      -1
      Russia will not participate in any scenario.
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 27 October 2020 20: 54
        +1
        even with 102 shelling?)
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      1. hydroy
        hydroy 27 October 2020 21: 15
        -2
        As if Azerbaijan does not have its own propaganda, fascism in relation to the Armenians? You are now trying to translate colors into Armenians, are you good? what did Putin say, how did the conflict begin, look) As for the bad deeds, how do you feel about the YunArmy movement of the Russian Federation? teach good deeds? When Russia stands up for the Armenians, though there are reasons. And there are many reasons against Armenia and many for. Honestly, now write about the Turkic troops, but what will you do with NATO) How will they react when Turkey, on the one hand, is in NATO, on the other, in its Turan, and now write, you still need to work with the Kazakhs, now you want the Kazakhs too embarrass with Russia) because Kazakhstan is in the CSTO, like Kyrgyzstan, what will you encourage the Kazakhs to betray against Russia?) Honestly, your union will become the starting point of a big war between Turanchik and NATO) And it seems to me your policy, I am a Turk, yes a Turk, but what do you want after the Kazakhs? Tatars?) Bashkirs) and the peoples of the Caucasus) do you think Russia will watch you as Turkic-speaking people urge the peoples of Russia to separatism) well, then what position should Russia take if pro-Turkish militants participate in the Karabakh conflict, according to Kremlin propaganda they wanted to stage a terrorist attack in Khabarovsk, By the way, a couple climbed into Volgograd, a couple to Chechnya and a couple to Dagestan, do you think the Turks will send them to Syria after the liberation of Karabakh? yeah, the aerospace forces are already hitting closer to the Turkish border) Therefore, there will be an expansion to the Caucasus and north of Iran, the Persians and Azerbaijanis have uneasy relations, and after the victory in Karabakh, rumors will go about South Azerbaijan. It turns out that the Azerbaijani army uses all means, including terrorists, and does not obey the interests of Russia, what are the Turkish F-16s doing there? It turns out that there are no interests of Russia in the region, schools and universities? Russian-speaking? Russians? Two peoples - one state) then why should the Russians support Azerbaijan? What is your cooperation? So we are in neutrality with the Azerbaijanis, but having contacted the Turks and their terrorists, who are being destroyed by our VKS, do you want positive from the Russians? Religion and ethnic composition are some factors of the general chain, namely, we have many Turkic-speaking peoples who live compactly and well in the Russian Federation, we are a multinational state and many Russians support Azerbaijan, but by contacting the Turks you knock all the positive) Therefore, it is not a question of faith, but a question logic. Russia and China do not need the "Great Turanchik" at their side. Russia needs separate subjects of Central Asia, with which it is possible to conduct allied and trade relations on an equal footing, but in no way to the tune of the Turks of their Sultan)
      2. hydroy
        hydroy 27 October 2020 21: 24
        +1
        By the way, an interesting fact, Turkish newspapers already write about Erdogan's attitude to Crimea, that it is their interest and Erdogan did not recognize Crimea not in favor of Ukraine, but in favor of Turkey, Crimea was under the Ottomans) by the way, who does he support there? Türks - Crimean Tatars) but not all Tatars for him)
      3. ghby
        ghby 28 October 2020 08: 04
        0
        Quote: MTN
        A powerful army will be. It will be necessary to work with Kazakhs. They even now cheer for us.

        It won't work. And even more so with Kazakhstan.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2020 20: 56
      +1
      And why the hell to treat you well if you drag the Turks to the Caucasus? We are not interested in them here. But the Israelis just adore them. Maybe a Turkish base will be organized in some Haifa?
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      1. hydroy
        hydroy 27 October 2020 21: 25
        -2
        I will not drown for the Azerbaijanis, who support the Turks, who want to recreate the new Ottoman Empire and who are creating a new military-political bloc "Army of the Great Turan", is the logic clear?
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      2. hydroy
        hydroy 27 October 2020 21: 27
        +1
        And what about the Armenians? they are weak both economically and militarily, they do not have petrodollars, who at least somehow help for those and cling, therefore, they are offended that Russia does not help them) But as Aliyev said, Russia is transferring weapons through the Gyumri base, what else do they want ) Until the United States sharply deals with Turkey, we will meddle in Karabakh) is a difficult question)
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    1. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 21: 57
      -2
      why do you immediately translate the arrows to Armenians, using already another propaganda from sunny Baku? On October 29, we'll see what happens, I'm just now wondering how Russia will react when its underbelly forms a new military-political alliance of an unknown format and purpose, the organizing country is a NATO member, how Russia will react when it no longer hesitates to write what is needed "work" with the Kazakhs, are you fucking uncle? We need this union of yours, oh, how we need it) and you tell me about the Armenians, of whom 40% are in Sochi and a little less in the region) let's see how they sing) and one more thing) the security guarantee in Karabakh was carried out by the Armenian army, who will help the Armenians in Sochi) so do not carry garbage) but about Turan paranoia? What is the meaning of "working" with Kazakhs? tell)
  • Old26
    Old26 27 October 2020 21: 48
    +2
    Quote: Fungus
    The Azerbaijanis and Turks will have to give a little in the head. I see that they are completely at odds. We felt ourselves powerful in front of little Armenia.

    Will you give them over the head yourself, or will Russia again need to "sign" for this? Armenia has driven itself into a corner. Now let him clean up ...

    Quote: Trapp1st
    Here already smacks of provocation. If a blow is struck on the territory of Armenia
    And if Armenia starts shelling Azerbaijani troops in Karabakh and gets a response?

    If Armenia starts shelling Azerbaijani troops on the territory of Karabakh, then of course it will receive a response. Thus, they will place themselves among the participants in the conflict.

    Quote: 1976AG
    And who will determine who attacked whom? Take a word? They blame each other anyway. Whom to believe?

    It’s easier for Azerbaijan to invite observers from the CSTO countries (Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus). They will not just record possible shelling of the territory of Azerbaijan from Armenia and (or) shelling of Armenia from Azerbaijan. And not just fix it, but document it. Then it will be difficult to blame each other. If the Armenian Armed Forces launched an artillery attack on the territory of Azerbaijan at 10.00, and Azerbaijan answered at 10.10, it will immediately become clear who is who.

    Quote: venik
    They have the right to turn to the CSTO and Russia with a request for help (and most likely they will!). And here is WHAT to do here? To help - once and for all "get loose" with Azerbaijan (the topic of Karabakh is very "sick" there) .... NOT to help - once and for all discredit the idea of ​​the CSTO ...

    It all depends on the specific situation. if only shelling - there will be no reaction. especially if in return. Since Article 4 of the CSTO Treaty states

    If one of the participating states is subjected to aggression (an armed attack that threatens security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty)

    The shelling does not threaten territorial integrity and sovereignty. But it is necessary to record such excesses so that later, if the same Armenia turns to the CSTO, to have a "complete and holistic picture"

    Quote: Alexander Kopychev
    I agree. The Armenians, although they were stupid enough, nevertheless struck a blow on the territory of the NGO.

    And NPO is the territory of Azerbaijan.
    Quote: hydroy
    But in general, let them shoot along the border, deep into the base of the Russian Federation)

    The base in Gyumri is almost one and a half hundred kilometers from the territory of Azerbaijan. Up to Yerevan - a hundred. It's quite difficult to get in. Then you must shoot purposefully

    Quote: Scipio
    In general, we must act smartly, quietly support Armenia with good weapons, create conditions for Baku to get stuck in a swamp and pull Turkey together, and also provide support for the Kurds.

    That is, again for free or on credit, which will then tearfully beg to be forgiven?

    Quote: Scipio
    sorry, I'm not solving such questions)

    More precisely, WHAT HAPPINESS THAT YOU DO NOT SOLVE SUCH QUESTIONS am

    Quote: Scipio
    Unfortunately, I can’t tell you the whole plan, because I’m afraid there are foreign spies on the site and thus prevent them from getting ready. Don't worry, the main thing is desire, but we will create opportunities)

    Clear. Clinic and conspiracy theories

    Quote: maktub
    In the event of a retaliatory strike on the territory of Armenia (which will be regarded as an act of direct aggression), the CSTO will have to intervene, otherwise any collective security treaties are worthless

    Read the contract itself. Especially article 4. And do not write nonsense that a blow can be regarded as aggression. They are already exchanging blows. Armenia is as much a participant in the war as unrecognized Karabakh

    Quote: hydroy
    come on, you won't decide for Russia, the general air defense is not necessary, we just gouge your air defense and aircraft fleet and our sky, do what you want, you will not do anything, and the Turkish air force simply will not be allowed to the "younger" brother

    I wonder how? He taught geography at school, an expert. Turkish planes will be able to get to Azerbaijan through the airspace of Georgia, as did those 6 F-16s that are now at the airbase in Gabala. In Nakhchivan - there is generally directly from Turkey. What are you going to keep out of, strategist? Shoot down over international (neutral) waters or over the territory of another state ???
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 22: 03
      0
      Russia's accession - increasing the scale of the conflict. how will an interesting question be stopped! I just cited that Russia must ensure safety in the sky if something happens! That is if we get involved, which I doubt)
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    1. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 23: 34
      -1
      Bring the fact, you just brought the Baku agitation) The fact of the capture of Sochi, Krasnodar Territory by the Armenians! Please bring me. And about Vanya, I say that countering Pan-Turkism in Central Asia is a task of intelligence and that this alliance, where the NATO country will be the leader, is very interesting, it is still on paper, but let's see what happens next! Once again, China does not need this alliance) China does not even need the CSTO in this region, because Central Asia is now their sphere of influence) It will be just very interesting how everything will turn out).
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    2. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 23: 41
      0
      The Turan Army's idea of ​​military exercises in Turkey followed by joint exercises has long said that Azerbaijan is gaining strength thanks to the support of the SIH achievements against Armenia in Karabakh, is back on the agenda. Finally, during the critical visit of the Minister of National Defense Hulsi Akar to Kazakhstan, the military training and cooperation agreement between the two countries was seen as steps for the Turkish states to create a joint army. "Is the Turanian army possible?" The experts who answer the question of our newspaper drew attention to the establishment of the Turkish leadership, it can be expected that it will have a say in all military, regional and global issues.
    3. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 23: 41
      +1
      This issue is on the agenda of the Turkish world and especially from time to time in Turkey. The results of military cooperation between Turkey and Azerbaijan in connection with the Karabakh war bring a different aspect to this issue. In 2013, in Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan and Mongolia, the organization was named the "Agency for Ensuring Military Status". It was very interesting. Even the pioneer news was frightening somewhere. The Turan army is a very important target, and at the moment it is a reflection of passion and ideal. This is an indicator that expectations will be high in the long run. At present, it is necessary to focus on strengthening the overall military potential and to bring technical cooperation to concrete steps within the framework of the Turkic Council. I would like to emphasize this; Sounding out such projects before the necessary mental structure and international balance have reached an acceptable level can disrupt the process. I would also like to emphasize that when the struggle for Karabakh reaches the level it deserves, it will generate more motivation in the Turkish world.
    4. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 23: 42
      0
      in Turkish history, the Ottoman Empire with the Central Asian republics of the later period did not support the Turkish Republic almost, even if they were so close to each other that they were much closer. Thus, the situation developed after joint exercises in Azerbaijan and Nakhchivan after the start of the Tovuz attack. Then the attacks of Armenia and these attacks, as well as the reaction of the territory of Turkey in a very short time, which he lost, almost completely reached the host state with moral support. This caused satisfaction throughout the Turkish world. Turkey says its support for the balance of change is not wrong.
      Is this going to the Turanian army? I hope it will. But it is too early to talk about this. These words also awaken certain circles. In fact, when strong will emerges, it seems that things that seem impossible today can happen in a short time, in the medium or long term.
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    1. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 23: 46
      +1
      Here the question is about what is at the moment! And at the moment, the countries are in a state of pre-war, because the hostilities continue, and how they will end, no one can really say.
    2. hydroy
      hydroy 27 October 2020 23: 53
      +1
      about the registration) we took the side of Armenia openly in 30 days?
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    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 28 October 2020 13: 08
      -1
      China is just as dangerous for Azerbaijan. But for some reason he is at war with his citizens.
  • kventinasd
    kventinasd 28 October 2020 01: 14
    -2
    SchA elections in the United States will be held, and kirdyk azik with the Turks. Erdogan will hang himself faster or his own people will bang him. In America, the Armenian lobby is much stronger than the pro-Turkish one, but as long as they have a pre-election leapfrog there, no one will deal with Karabakh. But when everything is settled in the United States, then no CSTO and Turkey will fail. The United States recognizes Karabakh as Armenian, then will kick out Russian bases from Armenia and put its own there, for a strike from the north on Iran. And Aliyev will only have to silently swallow his own snot.
  • rjpthju
    rjpthju 28 October 2020 08: 59
    +1
    The Armenians in Karabakh did the same as the Albanians in Kosovo. Wait, they will also be wearing our south, they have already occupied
  • kamakama
    kamakama 28 October 2020 11: 54
    0
    Quote: maktub
    Well, we understand that the "law is like a drawbar" mentality is almost the same laughing
    And in the West, for example, they fulfill the contract from now on, no one will risk their reputation unnecessarily

    And I mean, what kind of person can there be if the United States unilaterally renounced its own financial obligations? who should - I forgive everyone