The Azerbaijani army is close to cutting the enemy troops in Karabakh in two

Against the background of statements by the Armenian side that "it will stand to the end," the Azerbaijani army continues to advance in the conflict zone in Nagorno-Karabakh. The words about the humanitarian truce remained just words, and therefore, instead of diplomats, the guns “spoke” with renewed vigor.

Fresh reports published from the conflict zone indicate that the Azerbaijani troops managed to penetrate deep into the enemy's defenses in the southwestern direction.

The maps showing the territory of hostilities indicate the advance of the Azerbaijani military. In particular, on the presented cartographic image, one can see that the troops of the Republic of Azerbaijan approached the settlement of Kylyabird (Tsakhkaberd), located on the Akari River. These are territories adjacent to the borders of Armenia in the area of ​​the so-called Kornidzor ledge.

Graphics - Twitter / Gargari

Thus, for the first time since the beginning of a new stage of the armed conflict, Azerbaijani troops are so close to cutting the grouping of Armenian troops in Karabakh into two parts. If this military maneuver is completed, then the troops in Nagorno-Karabakh will have a communication opportunity only through the territory of Armenia. But in this respect too, there are problems. The fact is that the Azerbaijani army was able to fire on the Goris-Lachin (Berdzor) transport corridor, which is one of the main routes from Armenia to the unrecognized NKR. If this transport artery is cut by the Azerbaijani troops, the situation will become critical for the Armenian forces in Karabakh.

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[Fedor Sokolov]

If the offensive is successful, then there is an ambush ahead. Ask the Ukrainian military, they will confirm that in 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the volunteers also rapidly advanced approaching the Russian border, and then fell into the boilers.

[Alena-Baku]

either the blitz scream failed, then we attack quickly, which is also bad - you will decide there

[Temples]

Quote: Alena-Baku

.... you will decide there

Where exactly?

These showdowns are the work of Aliyev and Pashinyan.
Only these two cannot be determined.

Meanwhile, soldiers are dying on both sides.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Temples

Meanwhile, soldiers are dying on both sides.

So they serve in the army to defend their homeland.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Temples

These showdowns are the work of Aliyev and Pashinyan.
Only these two cannot be determined.

In fact, this is, in fact, a creeping undercover war of Turkey itself in the Caucasus for Azerbaijan's recognition of being Turkey's "regulator" of oil and gas distribution in the Caucasus.
In fact, this is the creeping occupation of Azerbaijan by Turkey.

TOTAL. Azerbaijan's victory over the NKR turns into its loss in the war of conquest by Turkey to Azerbaijan and further to the Caucasus.

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

the war of Turkey itself in the Caucasus for Azerbaijan's recognition of being Turkey's "regulator" of oil and gas distribution in the Caucasus.

Well, it already distributes Russian gas to Europe through the Turkish Stream, why is Azerbaijan worse than Russia?

Quote: Tatiana

In fact, this is the creeping occupation of Azerbaijan by Turkey

what the hell?

Quote: Tatiana

Azerbaijan's victory over NKR

return of NKR to Azerbaijan

Quote: Tatiana

turns into his loss in the war of conquest with Turkey.

can be translated into Russian?

[Temples]

Quote: Tatiana

In fact, this is, in fact, a creeping undercover CAPTIVE war of Turkey itself

If Aliyev and Pashinyan were men, then no Turk would dare to dictate to one or the other.
You justify the weakness of these two by your hatred of the Turks.

You don't need a knife on a fool ...
Do you know further?

And the Turks know.
And soros knows.

From the shores of the Black Sea, you need to sweep out everything Ukrainian with a filthy broom.
Return Russian lands.
And this, too, someone will call a war of conquest.
Crimea is an example.

[Temples]

Quote: Tatiana

it is the creeping occupation of Azerbaijan by Turkey.

Remember Israel.
If Aliyev or Pashinyan ruled there, there would be no such country.
There would also be a Turk.

You need to be able to defend your statehood.

[atalef]

Quote: Temples

If Aliyev ruled there

What's the problem with Aliyev?
Is it the same for Pashinyan?
The people are fighting, not the rulers.
If the Azerbaijanis didn’t feel the justice of this war, someone would have driven them to the front.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Temples

If Aliyev ruled there

What's the problem with Aliyev?
Is it the same for Pashinyan?
The people are fighting, not the rulers.
If the Azerbaijanis didn’t feel the justice of this war, someone would have driven them to the front.

Quite right - with whom he did not communicate, even with those born in the Russian Federation, everyone is talking about the return of territories.

[mitroha]

That is, in your opinion, the Armenians also feel the justice of this war? That is, both sides are for justice?

[atalef]

Quote: Mitroha

That is, in your opinion, the Armenians also feel the justice of this war? That is, both sides are for justice?

I meant that there is no connection with Pashinyan.
And what about they feel or not. I do not know. Maybe someone feels, but sensations. that stand to the last drop of blood - as it is not present. and there is not much support from the diaspora.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: atalef

that stand to the last drop of blood - as it is not present. and there is little support from the diaspora.

In recent wars, it is not particularly noticeable that someone is standing to the last drop. As for the diaspora, then there is most likely elementary greed. In general, it seemed to me that the Armenians, in principle, were ready to solve the problem of Karabakh, but whoever would start solving it would become a political corpse .It's like with the Kuril Islands approximately

[Artavazdych]

the feeling that they are standing to the last drop of blood is somehow not present.

Look at the battle map, it is also shown here. 20% of the territory for a month of battles. Somehow, the pace of the "liberation army" does not seem to be walking, you know, with a fivefold superiority ...

[Old tanker]

In truth! But the Armenians are not very eager to defend Karabakh ..

[Artavazdych]

Do you want to say that the 150-thousandth Karabakh opposes the 10-million Azerbaijan and the 80-million Turkey alone? You're not right. There are many volunteers from both Armenia and Russia. True, there are almost no fired fighters and regular officers among them, that's the trouble.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: atalef

If the Azerbaijanis didn’t feel the justice of this war, someone would have driven them to the front.

In general, the army does not ask whether you want to go to the front or not, but based on your thoughts, the Armenians also feel the justice of this war

[Artavazdych]

You need to be able to defend your statehood.

So the tiny 150-thousandth Karabakh has already done the impossible. The second month of the war is going on, and Azerbaijan, 10 million people, has been advancing all this time with a maximum of 1000-1300 meters per day. And now he got up completely. And there is also 80 million Turkey ...

[Beringovsky]

it already distributes Russian gas to Europe through the Turkish stream, why is Azerbaijan worse than Russia?

The fact that Russia has different routes for the delivery of oil and gas to different consumers. And Azerbaijan is having a hard time with this. Therefore, he is highly dependent in this regard.

[Mayor lee]

Not an aggressive war, but a LIBERATIVE one! Cut it on your nose, pro-Armenian bot

[Tatyana]

Quote: Mayor Lee

Not an aggressive war but a LIBERATIVE one!

First of all. I wrote about Turkey.

Quote: Tatiana

In fact, this is, in fact, a creeping undercover war of Turkey itself in the Caucasus for Azerbaijan's recognition of being Turkey's "regulator" of oil and gas distribution in the Caucasus.
In fact, this is the creeping occupation of Azerbaijan by Turkey.

Those. CAPTIVE for Turkey in relation to Azerbaijan / Caucasus.

And secondly. Read the comments carefully and think with your head when you write the answers!

[Old tanker]

Azerbaijan has long considered Turkey a fraternal country. Their military cooperation is the same as we have with Belarus, if not denser. Since the 90s, the Azerbaijani military has not only studied in Turkey, but also undergoes treatment in their hospitals.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Old Tanker

Azerbaijan has long considered Turkey a fraternal country. Their military cooperation is the same as we have with Belarus, if not denser. Since the 90s, the Azerbaijani military has not only studied in Turkey, but also undergoes treatment in their hospitals.

Yes, I know about this, and I myself have already written about it more than once in the comments.
Here the point is different.
Erdogan, not just in geopolitical terms, as they say, "suffered", as if on horseback over an abyss, from impunity. Before our very eyes, Erdogan turned, in fact, into a radical Islamist Turkish-Nazi Fuhrer with his aggressive idea of ​​creating a quasi-state of Turan - a neo-Ottoman empire.
Erdogan and his ruling party are not much different from Hitler in 1938 and the German Nazis of the Third Reich before WWII.

[Alexander Kopychev]

Azerbaijan, apparently, is ready for this. My army friend Mamedov was called Mamed-oglu according to the documents. So he, not that he was shy, but simply did not advertise and proudly shared with me that he was a Turk by nationality and was not comme il faut for him ... He spoke Russian without the slightest accent, he was an absolutely socialite, but in his heart carried pride in belonging to the Ottomans. Today I understand why. And how many of these Mammadovs, in a good way, are there among the Azerbaijani people? I would compare the relationship with the Russian-Belarusian one and fully understand them.

[Sergej1972]

So "oglu" is much closer to the Turks than the ending of the surname with "ev". And so the ancestors of this Mamedov were subjects of Persia at one time. Azerbaijan has never been part of the Ottoman Empire. In Iran, there are twice as many “real” Azerbaijanis, that is, firmly reckoning themselves with this people, in comparison with independent Azerbaijan, and taking into account Iranians with Azerbaijani roots, but Azerbadzans for some reason do not feel themselves, and half-breeds (semi-Azerbaijanis- half-persians, etc.), every three or four.
By the way, Heydar Alievich Aliyev in the 60s. officially in all documents was called Heydar Aliyevich Ali-oglu.
Another thing is that this Mamedov, perhaps, was really a Turk, not an Azerbaijani. Perhaps his ancestors moved in search of a better life to the Russian Empire in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This has happened. But in this case, he should have been proud of the name of Mamed-oglu.

[Alexander Kopychev]

I just shared my life experience without any claims to comprehensive analysis and historical accuracy. Maybe I don't remember exactly what it was, almost 40 years ago in the GSVG.

[Nagaibak]

Alexander Kopychev "So he, not that he was ashamed, but simply did not advertise and proudly shared with me that he is a Turk by nationality and" oglu "is not comme il faut for him ..."
In order to be an Ottoman, you first need to at least become a Sunni.))) And so ...)))) Talk to the Turks how they treat Azerbaijanis. You will learn a lot of interesting things.))) And the Azerbaijanis undoubtedly declare that they are brothers with the Turks.))) Only nothing prevented them from fighting against the Turks as part of the Russian armies and earning crosses "For Bravery".)))) So that there not everything is unambiguous.))) And when the Red Army came, were there many uprisings of Azerbaijanis against it?))) The Turks got them so bad that they did not particularly oppose the coming of the godless power. And Azerbaijanis can speak a lot, beautifully and convincingly, like other residents of the Transcaucasian region.))))

[businessv]

Quote: Tatiana

Azerbaijan's victory over the NKR turns into its loss in the war of conquest by Turkey to Azerbaijan and further to the Caucasus.

Azerbaijan cannot lose to Turkey due to the fact that he surrendered to her long ago! Have you never seen how Aliyev and his Turkish sultan communicate with each other?

[Selevc]

So they serve in the army to defend their homeland.

The fact is that the whole war so far looks like a beating by one side with the other - and the weak side somehow does not really succeed in defending itself !!! It is good to defend the motherland, but when there is nothing to defend it with, the very process of defense turns into a meat grinder !!!

[Cottager452]

Wasn't the Great Patriotic War a beating and a meat grinder for the Red Army in the 41st?
And the alarmists were simply shot.

[Artavazdych]

In terms of human losses, the preponderance is not in favor of the Azerbaijanis. Then what kind of beating are you talking about?
And for territorial losses, it is uncritical - no more than 20%

[Orca]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Quote: Temples

Meanwhile, soldiers are dying on both sides.

So they serve in the army to defend their homeland.

What and from whom did the Azerbaijani soldiers go to defend, having gone to NKR a month ago - who attacked their homeland from there?

[figwam]

Quote: Temples

These showdowns are the work of Aliyev and Pashinyan.

Yes, everyone is involved, in the United States and England they knew that a war would begin. their citizens were warned about the dangers of visiting the region, there is a game of drawing Russia into the war, Pashinyan and Aliyev are pawns, Erdogan is a performer, as always an Englishwoman shits.

[Alena-Baku]

The fact that you think other people's money, I will understand you as a woman, well, we have to hide from the salary. But I will not tolerate lies and slander, there are no radical Islamists in Azerbaijan. And with a simple thank you, the Armenians have always paid off with Russia, even before Pashik. And Pashinyan generally decided that the Russians should say thanks for the fact that they exist thanks to the Armenians.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Alena-Baku

there are no radical Islamists in Azerbaijan.

It's for now. Then they will definitely be.
For tell me who your friend is - and I will tell you who you are!
For the sake of your own horizons, ask what Erdogan is and his ruling party in Turkey, which he leads!

Erdogan and Assad were also friends with families until the time when Erdog did not need Syrian oil.

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

For the sake of your own horizons, ask what Erdogan is and his ruling party in Turkey, which he leads!

Well, the fact that Erdogan is a presumptuous sultan is understandable. But isn't it for you to teach Azerbaijanis? Azerbaijanis and Turks are practically at least one people, one language.
And you yourself, what have you got there with your deceiving friend Erdogan?
Regarding Erdogan and Turkey, you need to sit on your priest evenly and puff into 2 holes, maybe how many cakes and gifts you gave him (despite the plane and the ambassador) and what you got in return ...
Anything but preach to others.

[Sergej1972]

Linguists and ethnologists, perhaps, disagree with you. Rather, they are still two kindred peoples, and the languages ​​are close, but not identical. I agree that of all the Turkic peoples, it is the Azerbaijanis that are closest to the Turks. Much closer than Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kirghiz.

[bk0010]

Quote: atalef

Azerbaijanis and Turks are at least practically one people

Are not Azerbaijanis not related to Iranians (Persians)?

[Artavazdych]

One language, but two completely different peoples in faith, origin, mentality, and cultural level, at least if we take the times of the USSR.

[NTD]

Quote: Tatiana

For the sake of your own horizons, ask what Erdogan is and his ruling party in Turkey, which he leads!

Don't worry about us. You better think about what will happen after the war? and so they talked with the Armenians with the whip, how will you go on?

[Orca]

Quote: MTN

and so they talked with the Armenians with the whip, how will you go on?

... someone got a hypertrophied sense of national identity?

[Goffman]

Quote: Alena-Baku

Pashinyan generally decided that the Russians should say thanks for the fact that they exist thanks to the Armenians.

It seems not only him. I don't understand what temperature or what drugs you need to be under in order to think and even more openly write this:
It is a pity that all these long 30 years Armenia and its people naively believed the Russian bear, who exchanged civilization and democracy, which the great Armenians bring with them, for their wild den.
A source

[Orca]

A person suffering from PTSD syndrome cannot write such a thing.

[gurzuf]

Probably - one people, one country. Something like this.

[Tatyana]

Quote: gurzuf

Probably - one people, one country. Something like this.

Exactly!
Those. namely the absorption of Azerbaijan by Turkey under external Turkish control.

This is the tactical goal of the Ottoman Erdogan on the way to achieving the strategic goal of Erdogan. Namely, the construction by Erdogan and his nationalist Islamist ruling party of Turan - the Neo-Ottoman Empire.

[Mik1701]

Or maybe a federation is expected there? One people, history, language, culture.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Mik1701

Or maybe there is supposed to be a federation?

It doesn't really matter whether it will be a federation or the CIS. For in any case, there should be a central center of economic and power interstate governance in this "community" of states.

And Erdogan at the same time does not even think about the location of this HEAD power center anywhere except in Ankara. - the capital of Turkey as a leader in relation to other countries that are part of the Neo-Ottoman Empire he is creating as their unconditional subordination to Erdogan personally and Turkey.

[Sergej1972]

But, on the other hand, before the entry into the Russian Empire, the present regions of Azerbaijan were part of Persia, not the Ottoman Empire. why not unite, in that case, with Iran, since the majority of Azerbaijanis live in this state? The unification of Turkey and Azerbaijan into one country, in my opinion, will sharply aggravate the Turkish-Iranian relations. Iranian Azerbaijanis are relatives of Turks, but Turkish Kurds are relatives of Persians.

[Victorio]

Quote: Sergej1972

But, on the other hand, before the entry into the Russian Empire, the present regions of Azerbaijan were part of Persia, not the Ottoman Empire. why not unite, in that case, with Iran, since the majority of Azerbaijanis live in this state? The unification of Turkey and Azerbaijan into one country, in my opinion, will sharply aggravate the Turkish-Iranian relations. Iranian Azerbaijanis are relatives of Turks, but Turkish Kurds are relatives of Persians.

===
Aliyev made a bet on Erdogan, Turkey

[Yeraz]

Quote: Sergej1972

with Iran, since the majority of Azerbaijanis live in this state?

do you think Iran needs 10 million Azerbaijanis to almost 30 in the far north of its state ??? With the closer to the border of Azerbaijan, the more nationalistic the population. This is a grenade with a pulled check, the Persians are not, but considering that Ayatollah Khamenei is Azerbaijani, the understanding of the situation is clear.

[NTD]

Quote: Tatiana

And what exactly are you - the citizens of Azerbaijan - going to pay in Azerbaijan with the frenzied radical Islamist Turkish Fuhrer for helping Turkey in the victorious war with the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh ?!

Don't confuse us with Armenians. We have enough money for our defense, and what we use now, we paid for everything.

Quote: Tatiana

Erdogan does not need your simple "THANKS" for the Turks!

Come on?)))))))))))) Long thought?)

Quote: Tatiana

Erdogan is counting on much more!

Keep thinking this way ..........

[Arthur]

You have not grown to be confused with the Armenians !!!!

[Oquzyurd]

"with a demoniac radical Islamist Turkish Fuhrer" Two options, or you are a fan of Ararat, or an ethnon-hater, although, by the way, these are inseparable concepts. I am writing so that you understand that there is no need to discuss with you, since you yourself are transforming yourself with your own terminology on the "rogue debate".

[Sergej1972]

Yes, Turkish leaders from the Republican People's Party (or as it is now called) do not award Erdogan with any epithets. But these are the heirs of Ataturk's ideas. On the other hand, you call the Azerbaijanis and the Turks one people, but deny the fact that the Kurds are not Turks or Turks in the broad sense of the word, this people is related to the Persians. Double standarts.

[Oquzyurd]

"Double standarts." Nothing of the kind. "One people, two states" is a slogan based on mentality, culture, historical roots, a view of the world order, etc. Azerbaijan and Turkey are multinational countries, dozens of ethnic groups live in each. For example, they are connected to this slogan. Pakistan, speaking one people three states. You probably understand that this slogan more means "thoughts and mental" unification than ethnic-blood. When they say, for example, "Russian world", the same thing, we are talking about the mental world than purely Russian ethnos.

[Master]

Quote: Fedor Sokolov

If the offensive is successful, then there is an ambush ahead. Ask the Ukrainian military, they will confirm that in 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the volunteers also rapidly advanced approaching the Russian border, and then fell into the boilers.

Stepan Shushan every day declares the defeat of the Azeri army and boilers. Yesterday her army was besieging Baku. Putin himself convinced her to lift the siege. Now they are returning home via Georgia. Along the way, smashing Turkish f16 in Gabala

[Mwg]

Jane Psaki Made in Armenia

[Ulrich]

Well, you don't need to lie. Shushan has no such. Basically "situation was stable and tense" - the situation is stable and tense.

[Rubina]

Right. Military expert Arestovich warns against such a situation. The Ukrainian army found itself sandwiched between the territory of the Russian Federation and the forces of the DPR or LPR, sorry, I don't remember exactly. But we have a slightly different geography. If the troops move out of the territory of Armenia, then behind Armenia is the Nakhichevan corps, which can easily be supplied from the territory of Turkey through the common border. I hope it will not come to that, such a scenario means unleashing a full war.

[atalef]

Quote: Rubina

If the troops move out of the territory of Armenia,

this will be the official entry of Armenia into the war and, of course, the loss of all the goodies from the DOKB (although what preferences can you get from the CSTO in its situation?)

[Olezhek]

If the troops move out of the territory of Armenia,

Already moved ... that's just the sense of this ...
And buns from the CSTO are handed out not in Israel.

[Vadim237]

Israel delivers buns to Azerbaijan in the form of artillery systems of UAVs and ammunition - which Azerbaijan works with the NKR troops and the nominees of Armenia.

[atalef]

Quote: Olezhek

And buns from the CSTO are handed out not in Israel.

we don’t need it

[Nagaibak]

Rubina "Right. Military expert Arestovich warns against such a situation."
Is Arestovich a military expert?)))) Come on .... The fact that he is a bastard is for sure.)))

[Cowbra]

But they shouted to their hearts that they say down with the Russian invaders and Soros will help us. You can also jump now - it helps some

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Cowbra

But they shouted to their hearts that they say down with the Russian invaders and Soros will help us

Here is how it is ... It turns out that Soros throws his henchmen lightly ... And does not help in any way ... But how did they jump! How fun it was!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Here is how it is ... It turns out that Soros throws his henchmen lightly ... and does not help in any way ...

Spawn this did not happen, and again the same. ©

[Servisinzhener]

Recently, even in the United States, they rolled to conclude a truce. But surprisingly it didn't work.
There are even bigger problems in the US now. Elections in a week. And until they go through any serious action, you should not expect. And Aliyev understands this very well. And in a week at such a pace, he can greatly improve his position.

[atalef]

Quote: Cowbra

But they shouted to their hearts that they say down with the Russian invaders and Soros will help us. You can also jump now - it helps some

If Pashinyan had been there, it would not have been, the situation would not have changed dramatically.
Azerbaijan in all the same way would start returning by military means and Russia in this case also did not climb.
Too much double standards, and Putin cannot afford to lose Azerbaijan forever.

[Olezhek]

and Putin cannot afford to lose Azerbaijan forever.

1 Dear, stop drowning for Azeri
They will definitely not believe you. So - by
2 And what does it mean "to lose Azerbaijan
. is he - Russian ???

[atalef]

Quote: Olezhek

1 Dear, stop drowning for Azeri

I am definitely not dear to you, but I have the most positive feelings towards Azerbaijanis. All the more confident that they are right

Quote: Olezhek

2 And what does it mean "to lose Azerbaijan
. is he Russian ??

the same as to fit in with Armenia - this is Russian territory 7

[Magadan]

support!
funny straight from the phrase it was "to lose Azerbaijan"

[DrEng527]

Quote: atalef

and to lose Azerbaijan forever,

the smell of Ukraine ...

[Nagaibak]

atalef "and losing Azerbaijan forever."
Yes, he has long been lost.)))) As well as the rest of the Caucasus. The Armenians are still trying to say something there))) but in fact we have no allies there.

[APASUS]

The Azerbaijani army is slowly reaching the borders of Armenia, but here there is already a different alignment, wouldn’t they have tied with the country? We just won't be able to sit out, and too many want this participation.

[Grandfather]

Quote: APASUS

The Azerbaijani army is slowly reaching the borders of Armenia, but here there is already a different alignment, wouldn’t they have tied with the country? We just won't be able to sit out, and too many want this participation.

I do not even doubt that there will be deliberate provocations.

[APASUS]

Quote: Dead Day

I do not even doubt that there will be deliberate provocations.

There will be on both sides. Now the moment is coming when countries do not need peace, they want to go to the end. Then the peace agreement will be perceived within the countries as a defeat. So the tie-up of the immediate territory of Armenia may be within 2-3 weeks, and this is a completely different alignment

[9PA]

Now there is such a moment that Azerbaijan needs to fix the current situation (plus a few more points)

[atalef]

Quote: Dead Day

I do not even doubt that there will be deliberate provocations.

Of course, Armenia will try to shout - they beat our people to enlist the support of the CSTO - only the people are not fooled, everyone understands everything.

[NTD]

Quote: Dead Day

I do not even doubt that there will be deliberate provocations.

And what should Azerbaijan do when they shoot from Armenia? To be silent? Watch quietly do you see the interests of the CSTO? Of course they will shoot and they have already been warned.

[saigon]

I don’t think that problems and howling all over the world will come to Armenia.

[Rubina]

Why do we need Armenia? This will give grounds for the intervention of other countries. Why do we need a foreign land to step on the same rake as Armenia did in the 1990s?

[atalef]

Quote: APASUS

We just won't be able to sit out, and too many want this participation.

The ODKB is not only Russia, but also Kazakhstan, I doubt that Kazakhstan will give the go-ahead within the CSTO.
And going alone is a problem for Russia, Kazakhstan will be more important than Armenia.

[donavi49]

Kazakhstan is good friends with Turkey if anything.

Akar flew to Kazakhstan yesterday.

Turkish companies operate in Kazakhstan. Last year alone, Lard 1,5 Turkish dollars were solidified in real contracts.

[Olezhek]

The ODKB is not only Russia, but also Kazakhstan, I doubt that Kazakhstan will give the go-ahead within the CSTO.
And going alone is a problem for Russia, Kazakhstan will be more important than Armenia.

MDya ... and where did "important" Kazakhstan go?
To Syria?
Who needs his "good" if he doesn't go anywhere?
And he will not go.

[atalef]

Quote: Olezhek

Who needs his "good" if he doesn't go anywhere?

ODKB is a collective thing and everyone cannot do what he wants.
The same applies to Russia.
Syria is not in any way here, we are talking about a member of the ODKB and decisions are made collectively

[Mwg]

Aliyev will not argue with Putin. He doesn't need it

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: APASUS

The Azerbaijani army is slowly reaching the borders of Armenia, and here is a different alignment

which one? Well, they will go to the border and stop. Well, they shoot each other over the fence. What makes you think that Aliyev is planning to take Yerevan?

[APASUS]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

then in Aliyev's plans to take Yerevan?

He has no plans to take Yerevan. Have you ever made out where the border is on the ground? They will fight for any bump and everyone will claim that this is his historical territory

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: APASUS

They will fight for any bump and everyone will claim that this is his historical territory

But what does Russia care about this fuss with bumps on the border?

[Artavazdych]

“In the coming years, we must be more active in this matter and hold presentations and exhibitions in various regions of the world. Because Yerevan is our historical land, and we, Azerbaijanis, must return to these lands, ”Aliyev stressed.

[iouris]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

What makes you think that Aliyev is planning to take Yerevan?

What makes you think that Aliyev is working according to his plan?

[Artavazdych]

“In the coming years, we must be more active in this matter and hold presentations and exhibitions in various regions of the world. Because Yerevan is our historical land, and we, Azerbaijanis, must return to these lands, ”Aliyev stressed.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: APASUS

The Azerbaijani army is slowly reaching the borders of Armenia, but here there is already a different alignment, wouldn’t they have tied with the country? We just won't be able to sit out, and too many want this participation.

Armenia has already struck a "preemptive strike" "in response to provocations." You don't have to fit in - deyure. The decision is up to the Kremlin. In principle, Erdogan climbs into the sphere of Russian interests - Putin perceives this negatively. On the other hand, do we need it?

[Olezhek]

And the army of Azerbaijan is slowly reaching the borders of Armenia, but here is a different alignment, would not they have tied with the country?

No. Aliyev is not crazy.

We just won't be able to sit out, and too many want this participation.

In the hypothetical case of Aliyev's invasion of the main territory of Armenia, there will be a call from the Kremlin
And he will retreat.
He is not crazy

[Radapupin]

Soon, the Armenians will have big problems with logistics.

[Alena-Baku]

They already have problems, the Armenian border with Iran and Georgia is not suitable for logistics. Basically, goods came to Armenia through Iran via Karabakh, and now the blockade of the borders will give more serious results.

[Yalquzaq]

armenian valiant troops.

[Yalquzaq]

and "Militant" Armenians in Beirut, Lebanon - they burn the flags of Israel, Turkey, Azerbaijan. https://twitter.com/i/status/1320811836170768388

[atalef]

Quote: Yalquzaq

and "Militant" Armenians in Beirut, Lebanon - they burn the flags of Israel, Turkey, Azerbaijan. https://twitter.com/i/status/1320811836170768388

Yes, the Armenians and we tried to arrange a buchu, only immigrants from Azerbaijan, we will have more. In general, the Armenian scream in the Negev desert fell silent.
They are all masters to burn the flags, only they didn’t have a knapsack in the teeth and went to the front. Others must fight for them, best of all Russia.

[miru mir]

I'll take it on the account, and fight with butter

[Goffman]

Also me a binomial of Newton! It happens. But they don't have Vasily Ivanych! "Vasily Ivanovich! Buza in the squadron !!!"

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Yalquzaq

valiant troops.

For it was not cognac that had to be drunk in the exercises, but to study military science in a real way, as the great Lenin bequeathed!

[Alexander Kopychev]

I don’t think the soldiers drank brandy and were not ready to fight. The miscalculations of the headquarters and the indignation of ordinary soldiers are obvious. Only such a polemic in the war is surprising, he could well have received a bullet in the forehead according to the laws of wartime. Something is unclean here.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Alexander Kopychev

I don’t think the soldiers drank brandy and were not ready to fight. The miscalculations of the headquarters and the indignation of ordinary soldiers are obvious. Only such a polemic in the war is surprising, he could well have received a bullet in the forehead according to the laws of wartime. Something is unclean here.

He's there with his squad - what's a bullet in the forehead? Who will risk it?

[Alexander Kopychev]

It is logical. This means the loss of control. Perhaps the video operator of this "commander" is no longer alive. How can you explain that an Azerbaijani blogger posted this recording on YuoTube with caring Russian captions?

[Krasnodar]

I will now show you the Armenian official reaction to the video:
https://m.ru.armeniasputnik.am/karabah/20201027/25078864/Skandalnoe-video-s-fronta-politsiya-Armenii-zaymetsya-svoimi-sotrudnikami.html

The Armenian police commented on a sensational video in which one of the employees of the department, serving in the combat zone in Karabakh, complains about the lack of elementary organization. Using foul language, the policeman says that the command left them to their fate. The video began to spread widely in the Armenian segment of social networks.

The police now note that all the problems that are voiced in the video have subsequently been resolved, combat duty has been streamlined as soon as possible. In connection with the video, an official investigation has been appointed, following which appropriate measures will be taken.

[Alexander Kopychev]

The video began to spread widely in the Armenian segment of social networks

Isn't it time to introduce tough measures against the spread of panic? To seize mobile communications in the troops, to jam the Internet, etc. I understand that for many this is blasphemy. but how else? In such a harsh hour, only maximum concentration and organization are NECESSARY. The rest should fade into the background.

[Krasnodar]

This is an internal affair of Armenia - the above measures can aggravate everything, in my opinion
The people there are not stupid - the Armenians

[Alexander Kopychev]

This is how battles are being waged "in the face of the NGO" and on its territory. I understand that I am writing official demagoguery, but are these measures quite appropriate there?

[Krasnodar]

There? Definitely yes.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Discipline...
the subunit commander is filming pitiful videos, from which it is clear that his soldiers do not know his face. It means that he did not appear on the front line, he has no authority before the soldiers.
There is no strict discipline in the unit.

[Ulrich]

And what, they got cold feet? We went to the front line, despite the fact that there are no supplies and weapons according to this video.

[Vadim237]

Damn, it's already the 30th day of the war - and these idiots, as always, are walking in a crowd on purpose so that a drone would shoot a bomb in them.

[Alex Justice]

Where are the commissars in leather jackets?

[air defense]

In order to avoid the massacre that the Azerbaijanis will unambiguously arrange, the Armenians need to evacuate the civilian population now.
Azerbaijanis have not already committed war crimes, there are photographs of their soldiers holding severed heads in their hands, there is also a video of the execution of prisoners. Well, the pogroms in Baku and Sumgait were quite recently on a historical scale.
But all the same, how far away one needs to be in Armenia, when, living next to two such "thugs" Turkey, which arranged the genocide of Armenians and Azerbaijan, which arranged local massacres, start calling Russia an occupier while having a territorial conflict with Azerbaijan.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Airdefense

In order to avoid the massacre that the Azerbaijanis will unambiguously arrange, the Armenians need to evacuate the civilian population now.
Azerbaijanis have not already committed war crimes, there are photographs of their soldiers holding severed heads in their hands, there is also a video of the execution of prisoners. Well, the pogroms in Baku and Sumgait were quite recently on a historical scale.
But all the same, how far away one needs to be in Armenia, when, living next to two such "thugs" Turkey, which arranged the genocide of Armenians and Azerbaijan, which arranged local massacres, start calling Russia an occupier while having a territorial conflict with Azerbaijan.

Started. Do you have a habit of not noticing the "pampering" of the Armenians? And the mass atrocities of the Armenian military against the civilian population in the 90s (mainly against women and children) in Karabakh, namely:
In Khojaly (there the 366th regiment of the 4th Army of the Zak.VO strongly helped the Armenians), in Karadaghly, Aghdaban, Mesheli, Baganis Ayrum, Lachin, Kosaly? And what about the explosions (2 times!) In the mid-90s of the Baku metro? Armenian Territorial Acts Against Civil Transport. For example, in a helicopter shot down in Karakend (Nagorno-Karabakh) by Armenians, Russian generals who flew on a peace mission in the 90s were also killed.
And in the current conflict, is it probably normal for an Armenian soldier to beat a seriously wounded Azerbaijani soldier to death with a rifle butt to his groans?
Look, you're looking for an Armenian troll in the wrong place:

https://vk.com/wall-196664897_1086

What do you say bot? You have been writing the same thing under different nicknames for some time in all topics and on all sites. Do you specialize in this clone "Tatiana"?

[air defense]

Khojaly is a good example, the Armenians had been preparing for the assault for a month, warned and asked the civilian population for a month to leave. But the brave Azerbaijani wars decided to use their own civilians as shit.
Tell me why Aliyev does not recognize the Armenian genocide committed by Turkey?

[Hello from Baku]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: Alena-Baku

either the blitz scream failed, then we attack quickly, which is also bad - you will decide there

Interesting. And what exactly are you - the citizens of Azerbaijan - going to pay in Azerbaijan with the frenzied radical Islamist Turkish Fuhrer for helping Turkey in the victorious war with the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh ?!
Erdogan does not need your simple "THANKS" to the Turks for nothing! Erdogan is counting on much more!

In the best traditions of Soviet newspaper editorials.

[Alexander Kopychev]

With newspaper editorials in their hands, they peacefully sat in teahouses and cafes. Now the enlightened Nations, having gotten rid of oppression, are sitting in the trenches. Keep it up!!!

[Deniso]

Why, and the Armenians have enough cunning, the trouble is that it, like, for example, in Pashinyan's, very often turns into a hot post, as a result of which they often find themselves deceived by themselves.

[Goffman]

Quote: denis obuckov

Armenians have enough cunning, the trouble is that, like, for example, in Pashinyan's, it very often turns into hot.

This is just such a specific trick that does not always work in politics, because it is tailored for things like the management of Stoloto in Russia.

[gurzuf]

Quote: atalef

can be translated into Russian?

There will be a second Ukraine (at least external control).

[iouris]

They've already won ... 90% ... even 92%.

[Olezhek]

They've already won ... 90% ... even 92%.

In what sense?
Azerbaijanis are really very close to victory:
cut the Lachin corridor, and that's it: hello to your family!
write letters to Soros ...
he will definitely answer.

The chances of Armenians are not very good

[svoit]

Quote: atalef

Azerbaijan in all the same would start returning by military means

It was Pashinyan who provoked the military decision, he needed the support of the Natsiks, and he could not make any compromises on the NKR. There would be other, besides the military, there would be other solutions.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: Alexander Kopychev

and in his heart he was proud of belonging to the Ottomans.

My dad is a Turkish citizen!

[Alexander Kopychev]

Thanks, laughed This, incidentally, proves that the roots are very deep.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

It is logical - an offensive along the road to Lachin / Berzor, cut the "Lachin corridor", interrupt the supply, after which the defense will collapse.
Only this is "easy" on the map.
Mountainous terrain promotes defense, not offensive
The stability of the defense of the Lachin corridor will be decided in Zabukh / Ahavno.
If it can be cut, there will be only one supply line.

[Trojan_wolf]

Something tells me that the Azeris will succeed if a miracle does not happen and the war ends.

[hydro]

Miracle - a counter-strike against the attackers and two boilers: in the Lachin region and in the border region, but how many forces Armenia has left is unknown. And so it is clear that every day everything is weakening and the defense is weakening. Without drones, but still, Azerbaijan is slowly crowding in the south. In these areas, it is easier to counter attacks, drones are blind in the forests

[Vadim237]

They use drones everywhere, both reconnaissance and shock.

[Old26]

Quote: Tatiana

Interesting. And what exactly are you - the citizens of Azerbaijan - going to pay in Azerbaijan with the frenzied radical Islamist Turkish Fuhrer for helping Turkey in the victorious war with the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh ?!

Has the oil already ended in Azerbaijan? And gas? Are there no supplies via the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipelines? Unlike Armenia, which takes a loan from us and then buys weapons for this loan, Azerbaijan pays with MONEY. So take it easy, than Aliyev has with Erdogan to pay off. Will buy weapons from him, such as ballistic missiles and MLRS, and Turkey will be happy.

Quote: atalef

can be translated into Russian?

Hardly. The author of the posts has a "fix idea" about the war between Turkey and Armenia (and Azerbaijan only as a cover). It is true that the combat units of Turkey are not visible in Azerbaijan, the aviation is represented by as many as 4 aircraft ...

Quote: MTN

And what should Azerbaijan do when they shoot from Armenia? To be silent? Watch quietly do you see the interests of the CSTO? Of course they will shoot and they have already been warned.

To begin with, turn to Russia, and it is better to send observers to the troops to Belarus and Kazakhstan. So that they record and most importantly document such violations of the provisions of the CSTO treaty by Armenia. The interests of the CSTO are still worth keeping in mind. After all, it is enough for Armenia to prove that they became victims of aggression from Azerbaijan, how the provisions of the CSTO can be applied
Now, if Armenia fired with a "dot" - was it documented? After all, there are no "Points" in service with the NKR, just as there are no trained calculations? Was Iskander used against Azerbaijan? And if so, document it.
By the way, where were the S-300 launchers destroyed? On the territory of NKR or Azerbaijan?

[Cottager452]

I’m wondering what the Azerbaijanis will feel when they learn that in the new Turkish and strongly “fraternal” Azerbaijan, they are a little second-class citizens.

[Lara Croft]

The fact is that the Azerbaijani army got the opportunity to fire at the Goris-Lachin (Berdzor) transport corridor, which is one of the main routes from Armenia to the unrecognized NKR.

This is the most important goal for the Azerbaijani army, what was the General Staff of the Armenian Armed Forces thinking about?

If this transport artery is cut by the Azerbaijani troops, the situation will become critical for the Armenian forces in Karabakh.

This will mean that it will be impossible for Armenia to return the NKR ...
The Azerbaijani Armed Forces must achieve three goals:
- isolation of the theater;
- violation of communications;
- communication disruption and control.
In the South, the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan must completely cut off the regions of Azerbaijan occupied by the Armenians from the IRI (this must be done before winter), posing in the future a threat to supply Armenia through the IRI, both from Nakhichevan and from the main territory of Azerbaijan ...
In winter, there will be no large-scale hostilities, because in the mountains, you will not fight with tank and combined arms divisions, the main emphasis will be on UAVs and reconnaissance and sabotage groups of the Azerbaijani army in the form of the Armenian Armed Forces operating on the territory of the NKR ...
Closer to winter, the number of refugees from the NKR to Armenia will increase, which will negatively affect the Armenian economy and the stability of the NKR Armed Forces ...

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Sergej1972

So "oglu" is much closer to the Turks than the ending of the surname with "ev". And so the ancestors of this Mamedov were subjects of Persia at one time. Azerbaijan has never been part of the Ottoman Empire. In Iran, there are twice as many “real” Azerbaijanis, that is, firmly reckoning themselves with this people, in comparison with independent Azerbaijan, and taking into account Iranians with Azerbaijani roots, but Azerbadzans for some reason do not feel themselves, and half-breeds (semi-Azerbaijanis- half-persians, etc.), every three or four.
By the way, Heydar Alievich Aliyev in the 60s. officially in all documents was called Heydar Aliyevich Ali-oglu.
Another thing is that this Mamedov, perhaps, was really a Turk, not an Azerbaijani. Perhaps his ancestors moved in search of a better life to the Russian Empire in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This has happened. But in this case, he should have been proud of the name of Mamed-oglu.

Meskhetian Turks, some of them were recorded by Azerbaijanis, and this is what he meant. They live in Saatli, Sabirabad and partly in Goranboy districts of Azerbaijan. They were expelled from Georgia during Stalin's time. Some of them subsequently emigrated from Azerbaijan to Turkey under the law on the repatriation of the Ottoman Turks to their homeland.

[Atlant-1164]

Wilted Armenian officers at a meeting in a bunker