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Spy games online. The secret of military unit 74455

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Headquarters of the General Staff of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Source: dw.com


Asymmetric response


Obviously, along with the nuclear missile shield and traditional types of weapons, cyber troops are well developed in Russia at a fairly high level. At least, this is being actively discussed in the camp of our potential adversary, NATO. The latest incident was the indictment against six GRU officers, allegedly responsible for numerous atrocities in the global information space. The list includes Yuri Andrienko, Sergei Detistov, Pavel Frolov, Anatoly Kovalev, Artem Ochichenko and Petr Pliskin. The US justice, together with representatives of the FBI, accuse these defendants of the fact that their work has long gone beyond the boundaries of simple intelligence gathering and poses a serious danger to the civilian population.

According to FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich, the activities of the GRU cyber units have led to the loss of several billion dollars over the past few years. The most interesting thing about this stories the fact that the American counterintelligence was not able to investigate the subversive activities of Russian hackers on its own and attracted IT corporations Google, Cisco, Facebook and Twitter for this. Speaking about such a "noble" mission of eminent companies, one should not forget about their long and fruitful work for the needs of US intelligence in providing personal data of users. Through the FBI, the main search and investigative work was carried out by divisions of the office in Oklahoma, Pittsburgh and Atlanta. Bowdich, during one of the press conferences dedicated to the "exposure" of the GRU officers, mentioned:

“The FBI has repeatedly warned that Russia is a highly capable cybercriminal, and the information disclosed in this indictment shows how pervasive and destructive Russia's cyber operation really is. But this charge also highlights the FBI's capabilities. We have the tools to investigate these malware attacks, identify intruders ... As demonstrated today, we will relentlessly pursue those who threaten the United States and its citizens. ”



A still from the FBI press conference. Source: sthedeaddistrict.blogspot.com

Apparently, the results of the US counterintelligence work seriously infuriated the local establishment. John C. Demers, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, commented on this:

"No country has used its cyber potential as maliciously or irresponsibly as Russia, unreasonably causing unprecedented damage in order to achieve small tactical advantages and satisfy bouts of anger."

Apparently, Demers forgot about the Stuxnet virus, which Israel and the United States infected the centrifuges of Iran's nuclear facilities. And this was far from the only act of cyber aggression by the American special services against the Islamic Republic of Iran. A whole program of online sabotage was organized under the name Operation Olympic Games. According to the logic of the office in Langley, cyberwar had a completely noble idea - to deprive the "aggressive Arabs" of nuclear weapons... But similar attempts at cyberattacks against them are viewed by the Americans exclusively as "malicious and irresponsible."

Spy games online. The secret of military unit 74455
Yuri Andrienko is now in the rank of wanted and especially dangerous on the FBI website. Source: fbi.gov

What are Andrienko, Detistov, Frolov, Kovalev, Ochichenko and Pliskin accused of, whose names will obviously now be on a par with Boshirov and Petrov? First of all, in a series of the largest cyberattacks in history, perpetrated by a group of individuals. It seems that all the significant hacker attacks of recent years have been hanged on the alleged Russian intelligence officers.

GRU can do anything!


The "hackers" from the Main Intelligence Directorate, according to the FBI, honed their skills on ... lighting Ukrainian cities. In 2015, a large-scale blackout happened in Prykarpattyaoblenergo - 230 thousand residents of the Ivano-Frankivsk region of Ukraine were without electricity. Hackers using the Blackenergy-3 malware were able to remotely reflash converters at substations. It is the converters that are responsible for transmitting the control electronic signal directly to the switches that turn off the power supply. According to experts, this method of attack was used for the first time. A step-by-step large-scale attack on the Ivano-Frankivsk power grids looked like this: first, they cut off the autonomous power supply at three distribution stations remotely, then bombarded the Prykarpattyaoblenergo call center with calls (this did not allow residents to report the lack of light in time), then turned off 30 substations and cut off communications operators with converters. As a result, part of Ukraine was de-energized for six hours. Power engineers had to manually switch the switches to the “on” position. By the way, according to cybersecurity experts, such a trick would not have taken place in the United States, where the vast majority of substations are controlled remotely and there are no physical switches. In total, Ukrainian infrastructure was subjected to hacker attacks until December 2016. The targets were the objects of the Ministry of Finance and the State Treasury Service. According to the US intelligence services, the main blame for this lies with the mentioned Russian citizens. On the FBI website, the young people are wanted and, apparently, a reward has been announced for information that facilitates the capture. The Americans are echoed by the odious information resource of Ukraine myrotvorets.center, where you can find a photo of the "accused":

"The Peacemaker Center asks the law enforcement agencies to consider this publication on the website as a statement about the committed by this citizen of deliberate acts against the national security of Ukraine, peace, human security and international law and order, as well as other offenses."

The site forgot to mention a similar hacker attack on the power systems of the Crimea, which happened a little earlier than the blackout in Ivano-Frankivsk. Neither the State Department nor Ukraine is told who is behind this provocation.


Sergey Detistov. Source: fbi.gov

The next large-scale action was the attack on the presidential elections in France. Initially, this story involved a certain group of hackers Fancy Bear, which initiated a phishing cyber game against Macron, who won in the first round. The goal was to organize the leakage of incriminating information about the presidential candidate through the distribution of e-mails with "bookmarks" to the campaign staff. According to the French side, everything ended relatively well, but all traces then led to Russia. On October 15, the Americans confirmed the suspicions of the French and announced a list of six main culprits.


Petr Pliskin. According to the US, the author of the NotPetya virus. Source: fbi.gov

The NotPetya virus in 2017, as everyone remembers, did a lot of sinful things around the world. And, as the FBI specialists found out, Pyotr Pliskin is guilty of its development. Undoubtedly, a beautiful story in American style, when the author of the program code of the virus names a creation in his honor. In the future, it is possible to make a film about a Russian villain. But this whole story is clearly lacking in drama: after all, destroyed computers and multibillion-dollar losses of state corporations do not seem to be such a universal evil. Therefore, the American justice system accused NotPetya and its author of destroying part of the Western District of Pennsylvania medical service, which made thousands of people unable to receive help on time, and, possibly, subsequently died prematurely. Now the mythical hackers from the GRU really look like unscrupulous villains.


Pavel Frolov. Source: fbi.gov

The hacker attack on the 2018 Olympic Games in PyeongChang, when the Olympic Destroyer virus almost disrupted the opening and seriously hampered the issuance of paid tickets, is considered a real act of revenge on Russia in the United States. "Russian hackers" from the GRU took revenge, of course, for the ban on the participation of compatriots in the Olympics. As you know, in 2018, the Russians were not at the games after a large-scale doping scandal. After the attack on the organizing committee of the Olympics, the hackers worked on the British case of Novichok and the Skripals, trying to cover up the traces leading to the Russian special services. The comparatively innocent attempts to hack the websites of state structures of Georgia in 2018-2019 look quite trifling, almost hooligan antics.


Anatoly Kovlev Source: fbi.gov



Artem Ochichenko. Source: fbi.gov



According to Radio Liberty, this award reveals the departmental affiliation of military unit 74455. Source: svoboda.org

In the United States, it is claimed that at least two large groups of hackers work in the Russian special services: Fancy Bear, which consists of the mentioned heroes of the material, and Cozy Bea, which includes FSB specialists. At the same time, Fancy Bear appears in the internal reporting of the domestic intelligence department as military unit 74455. According to some "liberal" media outlets, this military unit is based in Khimki on Kirov Street in the Tower object. It is interesting that the main reason for such addressing was a sign on the building with the inscription Oboronstroy JSC. Such are the online spy games ...

Each of the Russian citizens convicted in absentia in the United States in the case of state hacking can face up to 27 years in prison.
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  1. NDR-791
    NDR-791 27 October 2020 06: 19
    +4
    And me the chapel too? This is how the FSB traditionally had four-digit unit numbers. So again the partners got into trouble laughing
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 27 October 2020 06: 21
      25
      Quote: NDR-791
      And me the chapel too?




      Ha Ha Hacker wassat

      A graduate of AGIK or the Altai Academy of Culture and Arts, who played in military bands and has played music in bars with live music for the past couple of years, a Russian citizen born in Minsk is accused of being an alleged GRU officer. fellow
      Pennsylvania judges charge him with “conspiracy to commit a crime against the United States;
      - False registration of a domain name;
      - Conspiracy to commit fraud using electronic means;
      - Telephone fraud;
      - Intentional damage to protected computers;
      - Aggravated identity theft
      ».



      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 27 October 2020 06: 43
        18
        Music is a cover smile
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 27 October 2020 06: 45
          +8
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Music is a cover

          Sports too yes In Ukraine, Russian provincial soccer teams were buried yes yes yes lol
          1. BDRM 667
            BDRM 667 27 October 2020 06: 59
            16
            Quote: Pessimist22
            Music is a cover


            And further :

        2. Captain45
          Captain45 27 October 2020 10: 54
          +5
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Music is a cover

          He blows secret messages on the trombone so that no one will guess. This option was proposed at the dawn of military intelligence by Buba Kastorsky (secret film-manual "New Adventures of the Elusive", but shhh, this is a terrible military secret. "Burn before reading!") laughing
          1. common man
            common man 27 October 2020 12: 10
            0
            Quote: Captain45
            "Burn before reading!")

            You got it wrong again. "After watching, swallow."
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 27 October 2020 12: 50
            0
            Quote: Captain45
            He blows secret messages on the trombone so that no one will guess.

            It connects to 56K acoustics - and pumps information. smile
        3. Imperial Technocrat
          Imperial Technocrat 28 October 2020 00: 51
          -1
          Yeah. Wagner
      2. VORON538
        VORON538 27 October 2020 06: 45
        +2
        And the Merikos do not care. The main thing is "investigated, reported", showed that it is not in vain that they exist. And everywhere there is a "trace of the all-powerful Kremlin" :))). Well, everything is clear with them. Why the hell do they even post such pictures in different social networks, in the world wide web. Like not boys of "demobilized sewing troops", but still there.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 28 October 2020 12: 39
          +4
          Quote: VORON538
          And the Merikos do not care. The main thing is "investigated, reported", showed that they do not exist in vain. And everywhere there are "traces of the omnipotent Kremlin"

          Quite right - a huge amount of money was allocated for this case, and to report on the funds spent, the FBI concocted a hack, which congressmen grab like an American People. But I don’t believe that this crap is taken seriously by American intelligence professionals - everyone there understands perfectly well, but they pretend that everything is so.
          Quote: VORON538
          And here is the question for these guys in uniform, what's in the photo, why the hell are they generally uploading such pictures to different social networks, to the world wide web. Like not boys of "demobilized clothing", but still there.

          Firstly, such photos are posted by many military personnel, and they could have been taken at random from those whose smartphones were lit up in the areas indicated in the article.
          Secondly, those who are really involved in cyber war do not report anything about themselves, so these individuals are unlikely to have anything to do with the special services, but most likely they could be ordinary hackers who were handed over to the Americans by those who ended up in the United States and were already arrested for cyber crimes.
          Thirdly, these guys will have nothing, except that now it is better for them not to travel abroad, or to visit only China, Vietnam, Iran, North Korea or Mongolia - in general, those countries where they will be safe.
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 28 October 2020 14: 47
            0
            If I'm not mistaken, such photos have been banned to the military for a long time so that these unique people know that they are not in uniform!
            including not to disclose departmental affiliation
            and in general belonging to the power structures
            but for this, for now, how to put it mildly ...
            in general it is necessary to dismiss such "military men"
            and these take pictures, like "girls appreciate", as youngsters, although, basically, they are
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 28 October 2020 17: 57
              +1
              Quote: VORON538
              If I'm not mistaken, such photos have been banned to the military for a long time so that these unique people know that they are not in uniform!

              Go to any part of the party for the oath or the anniversary of the part - there are many pictures and videos of the invitees, and then they are posted on the network.
              Quote: VORON538
              in general it is necessary to dismiss such "military men"

              Then all television programs about the army should be banned. But this did not happen even in Soviet times, so it should be easier to treat this if the pictures do not reveal a military secret. From the photographs given in the article, it is generally unclear who is depicted on them and what these people are doing - this is what we must proceed from.
        2. zenion
          zenion 2 November 2020 19: 16
          0
          The American put his foot out and fell. It turned out that it was his leg!
      3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 27 October 2020 22: 22
        +1
        Quote: BDRM 667
        Pennsylvania judges charge him with “conspiracy to commit a crime against the United States

        Under such an article, they can boldly involve any of our military personnel, the benefit of operational plans for the United States in our GOU General Staff, therefore, any serviceman participated in an "organized group" planning (how to drink) committing "crimes" against the United States (read - participated in the conspiracy)
    2. Setun-23
      Setun-23 27 October 2020 06: 56
      18
      Quote: NDR-791
      And me the chapel too? This is how the FSB traditionally had four-digit unit numbers. So again the partners got into trouble laughing

      Not true. Four-digit numbers of the military unit at the FSB Border Troops. Units and regional departments of the FSB of Russia have five-digit numbers.
      1. Lynx2000
        Lynx2000 27 October 2020 08: 49
        +1
        Quote: Setun-23

        Not true. Four-digit numbers of the military unit at the FSB Border Troops. Units and regional departments of the FSB of Russia have five-digit numbers.

        The four-digit military unit numbers were assigned to military units of the border service (as part of the FSB) of the internal troops (as part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs / Rosgvardia).
        Five-digit numbers are assigned to the military units of the RF Ministry of Defense.
        The five-digit numbers of the military unit, as you wrote the FSB, are "legendary" units "designated as the military unit of the RF Ministry of Defense" whose "servicemen" are actually regular employees of the FSB, but they conditionally fulfill the duties of servicemen of the RF Ministry of Defense, wearing military uniforms, signs of the RA, service certificates, positions and ranks of servicemen of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, but in fact performing covert measures provided for by service orders and operational activities (technical support units).
    3. neri73-r
      neri73-r 27 October 2020 10: 07
      0
      Quote: NDR-791
      So again the partners got into trouble

      This is an army unit.
    4. Alesi13
      Alesi13 27 October 2020 12: 52
      0
      And the military unit has a lot of numbers?
      1. Igor sanych
        Igor sanych 27 October 2020 19: 54
        0
        The GRU is part of the Ministry of Defense, which means there will be five))
    5. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 2 November 2020 18: 48
      0
      ... and in the KGB, the numbers of military units are four-digit.
  2. Asad
    Asad 27 October 2020 06: 28
    +4
    And if people have nothing to do with it? This is not to leave the country, almost everywhere will pass ,, partners ,,!
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 27 October 2020 06: 34
      +7
      Quote: ASAD
      And if people have nothing to do with it?


      How, "nothing to do with"?

      And the eternal, from the classics?

      Your only fault is that I want to eat ...
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 27 October 2020 06: 42
      10
      And if people have nothing to do with it?
      And the "partners" do not care.
      There is such an anecdote:
      The correspondent interviews the chairman of the pofigists society.
      -And you really do not care FSE?
      - Yes!
      -And family?
      - Yes!
      - And work?
      - Yes!
      -And the salary?
      -But the salary does not care !!!
      -But this is contrary to your charter!?!?
      - We don't care!
  3. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 27 October 2020 07: 09
    +7
    I read and was horrified, how scary these Russian hackers are)) Especially this one with a trombone - a truly hacker's hard ... In the photographs of this pretty one, it is immediately clear - an evil Russian hacker specializing in social engineering and musical technologies. He does not even hide his belonging to the Russian occupation military hordes, the beast laughing
    1. Cetron
      Cetron 27 October 2020 22: 02
      +3
      They didn’t run into the Russian construction battalion, that’s where the beasts are! Even the Ministry of Defense is afraid to give them weapons!
  4. Revolver
    Revolver 27 October 2020 07: 35
    +6
    Yes, it’s clear bully
    1. 9 Shaft
      9 Shaft 27 October 2020 11: 29
      +1
      E is mine, give yourself up with giblets ... Tremble the West))))))
  5. krops777
    krops777 27 October 2020 07: 49
    +8
    In 2015, a large-scale blackout happened in Prykarpattyaoblenergo - 230 thousand residents of the Ivano-Frankivsk region of Ukraine were without electricity. Hackers using the Blackenergy-3 malware were able to remotely reflash converters at substations. It is the converters that are responsible for transmitting the control electronic signal directly to the switches that turn off the power supply.


    Switching switches off the whole area are you serious? Converter, electronic signal, switch, what kind of words? If only we would have consulted with the power engineers before carrying such nonsense.
    1. Avior
      Avior 27 October 2020 08: 27
      +2
      Obviously clumsy machine translation.
      Converter - converter.
    2. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 27 October 2020 11: 59
      +4
      Quote: krops777
      Switching switches off the whole area are you serious? Converter, electronic signal, switch, what kind of words? If only we would have consulted with the power engineers before carrying such nonsense.

      The FBI doesn't care who to blame, the article is translated. And the author is very far from energy, as well as the accused from computers))
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  7. antivirus
    antivirus 27 October 2020 07: 55
    +4
    Langley's cyber war had a noble idea - to deprive the "aggressive Arabs" of nuclear weapons. AND

    -the Persians became Arabs ?????????? Is everything possible for the author or did the Americans come up with it?
  8. Sergey Russky
    Sergey Russky 27 October 2020 07: 57
    +1
    work brothers
  9. Mytholog
    Mytholog 27 October 2020 08: 09
    +2
    True, not true - yes, do not care.
    New successes to the guys.
    And let the striped ones burst with anger))
  10. And
    And 27 October 2020 08: 41
    +3
    The Americans, of course, are still storytellers, but they have little imagination with them. Each time their delirium grows stronger.
    Regarding the medal, by the way, here's what I found (address: https://newauction.com.ua/offer/medal_na_sluzhbe_otechestvu_v_ch_74455-i6532293193.html#3)
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 27 October 2020 09: 25
      +7
      Quote: And
      Regarding the medal, by the way, here's what I found (address: https://newauction.com.ua/offer/medal_na_sluzhbe_otechestvu_v_ch_74455-i6532293193.html#3)

      Remarkable: Lot location: Kremenchug

      Ukrainian Kremenchug! fellow
      1. And
        And 27 October 2020 09: 31
        0
        There is such a thing, but the announcement was closed in July. Here is such a secret medal of the secret military unit.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 27 October 2020 12: 54
        +1
        Quote: BDRM 667
        Ukrainian Kremenchug!

        This is a trophy medal - captured in a heated battle in the comments on the "censor". laughing
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 27 October 2020 14: 24
          +7
          Quote: Alexey RA
          This is a trophy medal - captured in a heated battle in the comments on the "censor".


          Medal, such as:





  11. cniza
    cniza 27 October 2020 09: 07
    +4
    It is interesting that the main reason for such addressing was a sign on the building with the inscription Oboronstroy JSC. Such are the online spy games ...


    They will drive themselves crazy, we don't have to do anything ...
  12. ANB
    ANB 27 October 2020 09: 18
    +4
    A normal hacker will not maintain a social media account with personal data.
  13. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 27 October 2020 09: 55
    0
    At the same time, Fancy Bear appears in the internal reporting of the domestic intelligence department as military unit 74455. According to some "liberal" media outlets, this military unit is based in Khimki on Kirov Street in the Tower object.

    Near the headquarters of the Wagner PMC. They even have one parking lot.
  14. Charik
    Charik 27 October 2020 11: 01
    -2
    What can I say - great job
  15. evgen1221
    evgen1221 27 October 2020 12: 07
    +2
    Here's something that tells me that the CIA was having fun with the 404 switches in the country.
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 October 2020 12: 42
    +3
    "According to FBI Deputy Director David Bowditch, the activities of the GRU cyber units have led to the loss of several billion dollars over the past few years ..." (c) laughing Bonuses to lads, at least 0,001% of the losses of "partners"
  17. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 27 October 2020 14: 34
    0
    An acquaintance served in the brigade providing security for the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff. I was surprised that, according to him, it is officially called not a motorized rifle, but simply a rifle one. Probably the only rifle brigade in our army.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 October 2020 15: 37
      +1
      Quote: Sergej1972
      An acquaintance served in the brigade providing security for the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff. I was surprised that, according to him, it is officially called not a motorized rifle, but simply a rifle one. Probably the only rifle brigade in our army.

      No longer a brigade, but a regiment:
      The 1st Separate Rifle Guard Brigade of the USSR Ministry of Defense was disbanded in 2009. Now its functions are performed by the 1st Separate Rifle Semyonovsky Regiment.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 27 October 2020 18: 26
        0
        Thanks for the info. But what distinguishes it from motorized rifle regiments? No armored personnel carriers and (or) infantry fighting vehicles?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 27 October 2020 19: 42
          +1
          Quote: Sergej1972
          Thanks for the info. But what distinguishes it from motorized rifle regiments? No armored personnel carriers and (or) infantry fighting vehicles?

          Garrison and guard regiment. Judging by the photo, most of the regiment's motorization is cars and even buses (PAZiki). There are no heavy weapons in the regiment, only RMO, autorot and control. In short, shooters in their pure form are fighters with shooters.
        2. zenion
          zenion 2 November 2020 19: 23
          0
          Their machine guns shoot automatically, you just need to press the hook with your finger.
  18. K-50
    K-50 27 October 2020 14: 41
    +2
    Well done, warriors! Let's continue, scare these "democrats"! good lol
  19. Setun-23
    Setun-23 27 October 2020 18: 50
    +1
    Quote: Lynx2000
    Quote: Setun-23

    Not true. Four-digit numbers of the military unit at the FSB Border Troops. Units and regional departments of the FSB of Russia have five-digit numbers.

    The four-digit military unit numbers were assigned to military units of the border service (as part of the FSB) of the internal troops (as part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs / Rosgvardia).
    Five-digit numbers are assigned to the military units of the RF Ministry of Defense.
    The five-digit numbers of the military unit, as you wrote the FSB, are "legendary" units "designated as the military unit of the RF Ministry of Defense" whose "servicemen" are actually regular employees of the FSB, but they conditionally fulfill the duties of servicemen of the RF Ministry of Defense, wearing military uniforms, signs of the RA, service certificates, positions and ranks of servicemen of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, but in fact performing covert measures provided for by service orders and operational activities (technical support units).

    I disagree with you. Five-digit military unit numbers for all units of the FSR of the Russian Federation (with the exception of the Border Troops), and not only for the "legendary" ones. Even the Commandant Directorate of the FSB of the Russian Federation, which openly wears uniforms of the FSB model, has a five-digit military unit number. But what can I say, the Academy of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, the one on Michurinsky Prospect, has a five-digit military unit number. And neither the employees of the CU of the FSB of the Russian Federation, let alone the students of the academy, have documents that even remotely resemble a military ticket or an identity card of an officer of the RF Armed Forces. And at the expense of the form of the Ministry of Defense, then according to the regulations of the FSB of the Russian Federation of 1994, the personnel of the FSB of the Russian Federation have the right to wear any form of clothing of any department, due to official necessity.
    And, yes, officers of the RF FSB are military personnel, unlike, for example, police officers, FSIN, etc.
    1. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 28 October 2020 03: 48
      0
      Quote: Setun-23

      I disagree with you. Five-digit military unit numbers for all units of the FSR of the Russian Federation (with the exception of the Border Troops), and not only for the "legendary" ones. Even the Commandant Directorate of the FSB of the Russian Federation, which openly wears uniforms of the FSB model, has a five-digit military unit number. But what can I say, the Academy of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, the one on Michurinsky Prospect, has a five-digit military unit number. And neither the employees of the CU of the FSB of the Russian Federation, let alone the students of the academy, have documents that even remotely resemble a military ticket or an identity card of an officer of the RF Armed Forces. And at the expense of the form of the Ministry of Defense, then according to the regulations of the FSB of the Russian Federation of 1994, the personnel of the FSB of the Russian Federation have the right to wear any form of clothing of any department, due to official necessity.
      And, yes, officers of the RF FSB are military personnel, unlike, for example, police officers, FSIN, etc.

      In some ways I agree with you, for example, the higher schools of the KGB (an analogue of a higher military school) have a number as military unit # *****. Listeners, they are cadets. I know this by the example of Novosibirsk.
      Commandant management - yes.
      Of course, FSB officers wear uniforms according to their type of service — the department of military counterintelligence.
      The command staff and employees of the FSB, FPS of the FSB of the Russian Federation, the Russian Guard (formerly the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation) are military personnel who are assigned military ranks.
      Employees of other departments (indicated by you) are assigned special titles: police lieutenant; customs lieutenant (operational units), etc.
      However, please explain why you think that regional FSB are military units with assigned numbers?
      1. Setun-23
        Setun-23 28 October 2020 19: 23
        0
        Quote: Lynx2000

        However, please explain why you think that regional FSB are military units with assigned numbers?

        Simply on the basis of the fact that I studied at the academy in Michurinsky, and on my avatar is the courtyard of a regional administration in the south of the country at the very beginning of the 2000s.
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 29 October 2020 00: 17
          +1
          yes I understood from the text that you are "in the subject". He served in another department, but worked together with the FSB in the region ... Military unit number that is 4-digit or 5-digit, this is the so-called. "field mail address" for external communications. For example, I am writing a request to the commander of the military unit No. ххххх, indicating the settlement and the military unit No.
          In the request, the head of the regional FSB is sent to the address according to the postal code.
  20. Dart
    Dart 27 October 2020 23: 14
    0
    yes ... if you put a spoonful of shit in a barrel of honey, then it will no longer be a barrel of honey ... and the Yankes, in this story of truth, just on that spoon of shit ...
  21. Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 28 October 2020 00: 50
    0
    So we put presidents for them, why are there any hacker attacks ...
    And in November, we will start a civil war for the United States, and dismember America.
  22. Iskazi
    Iskazi 28 October 2020 01: 35
    0
    OSNAZ GRU is alive, and we know about it, under different numbers, in other places ... but the smoking-room is alive ..., I am very glad.
  23. Moskovit
    Moskovit 28 October 2020 08: 09
    +1
    And Pliskin is well known to the Soviet, and then to the Russian audience.
    Escape from New York is a 1981 American independent science fiction film directed by John Carpenter. The film is set in 1997. The United States of America was swept by a wave of crime, in connection with which the island of Manhattan was turned into a maximum security prison. Former soldier Serpent Pliskin is tasked with rescuing the President of the United States within 24 hours, who entered the prison and was taken prisoner by prisoners.
    Here is the hero himself:
  24. phair
    phair 29 October 2020 04: 16
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    Once in Khabarovsk I saw an officer opposite the district headquarters with an interesting emblem on his sleeve - a sphinx holding a key in his paws. I was in "Flora" without insignia, asked: "Coder", the answer was "Aha". Year 2008, somewhere.
    1. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 29 October 2020 07: 09
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      Quote: phair
      Once in Khabarovsk I saw an officer opposite the district headquarters with an interesting emblem on his sleeve - a sphinx holding a key in his paws. I was in "Flora" without insignia, asked: "Coder", the answer was "Aha". Year 2008, somewhere.


      Such?
      State Secret Protection Service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Management as part of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.