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Aliyev: Turkish brothers left us F-16 fighters for support

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Baku does not exclude the possibility of using Turkish F-16 fighters located in Azerbaijan. According to the country's President Ilham Aliyev, Turkish fighters will be used in case of external aggression against the republic.


Aliyev in his address to the nation said that Turkish F-16 fighters are on the territory of Azerbaijan for "moral support". According to him, they flew in to participate in the exercises and stayed because of the war. At the same time, he stressed that the planes are on the ground and do not take part in hostilities. The only reason for the decision to use the F-16 will be "external aggression" against Azerbaijan.

I am often asked: what are the Turkish F-16s doing here? I'm tired of answering. If you have satellites, then look to make sure they are on the ground and not in the sky. They came here to participate in the exercises and stayed here when the war broke out. Our Turkish brothers left them for moral support to us. But if there is external aggression against us, they will see these F-16

- quote Aliyev's words to AzTV.

Meanwhile, the Armenian Defense Ministry reported on another violation of the ceasefire by Baku and an attempt by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces to carry out an offensive in the southeastern direction in Karabakh and shelling positions from the Smerch MLRS.

Despite a new ceasefire agreement reached in the United States, Azerbaijani forces attempted to attack the front line of one of the military units located in the southeast direction, continuing to shell civilian settlements. In particular, at about 13:50 the enemy fired a volley fire from the Smerch MLRS towards the Zardarashen village of the Martuni region

- reads the message of the Armenian military department.

The Defense Ministry of the unrecognized NKR reported that the "Artsakh Defense Army" is conducting defensive battles to suppress enemy attacks and push them back to their original positions.

Earlier, the parties concluded another humanitarian truce mediated by the United States.
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  1. opuonmed
    opuonmed 26 October 2020 14: 57 New
    -2
    ahahah turks well done fit in and fit in
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 26 October 2020 15: 04 New
      21
      They wrote the Azerbaijanis in this way. In a slightly different sense of the word.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 26 October 2020 16: 36 New
        -3
        With Fushki - a very beautiful move of the Sultan: Aliyev on a powerful shark hook.
        But now we would have to destroy them right at the parking lots - it would be even more beautiful - I do not believe that skilled RDGs have been transferred to our Armed Forces!
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 26 October 2020 16: 43 New
          0
          I heard a story from an eyewitness (not an Armenian) how, at the turn of the current millennium, the Armenian border guards had shaved off their Turkish "colleagues" sleeping in secret on the neutral zone. Then they returned it "solemnly". It’s surprising that Ararat hasn’t been pulled over yet. I know one thing: war is bad.
          1. Bagatur
            Bagatur 26 October 2020 17: 02 New
            +6
            Yeah ... they will return ... Ararat and the whole of western Armenia ... as Napoleon said, God loves the one who has more battalion!
        2. Alexander Kopychev
          Alexander Kopychev 26 October 2020 17: 28 New
          +2
          Do you need it? This is another level of war to unfold, and Erdogan will receive the coveted Casus belli.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 26 October 2020 15: 05 New
      13
      onuonmed-Turks then obviously it all started initially, and turned everything as if they were just extras, so to speak, "powerful rear of fellow countrymen", in case of a war, which they also started - with someone else's hands.
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 26 October 2020 15: 25 New
        16
        I am often asked: what are the Turkish F-16s doing here? I'm tired of answering. If you have satellites, then look to make sure they are on the ground and not in the sky. They came here to participate in the exercises and stayed here when the war broke out. Our Turkish brothers left them for moral support to us. But if there is external aggression against us, they will see these F-16


        LIE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL is this just a lie, or something more?



        Photos of Turkish F-16s operating in the territory of Azerbaijan.
        4 planes were recorded, the location of 2 more is not known.

        The picture was taken on October 19 at the Gabala airbase. Earlier, the intelligence of Armenia stated that after the publication of satellite images of the airbase in Ganja, the Turks drove their cars to the Gabala airbase. Where are they, after about 2 weeks, those were actually found.

        Until mid-October, Azerbaijan at the official level denied the presence of Turkish F-16s on its territory, however, after the denouncing publication in the Western media of satellite images from October 3 from the Ganja airbase, where F-16s were recorded, Aliyev after a while was forced to admit their existenceby issuing a new version that - "they just stand there, but do not participate in hostilities".
        Along the way, the entire Azerbaijani propaganda was harshly done, which for several days, with persistence worthy of better application, tried to prove that the satellite images of the airbase in Ganja were not F-16s, but Italian M-346s.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 26 October 2020 15: 53 New
          +7
          All these journalistic searches for pictures "touch". The whole space, both Armenia and Azerbaijan (and not only), is perfectly visible from the "Container". That is why our "who is supposed to" keep silent, the question is interesting. Apparently (my PERSONAL opinion) The anti-Russian rhetoric of the Armenian "revolutionaries" got to such an extent that they decided to partially merge "Karabakh" as punishment, with all the org conclusions - the people themselves will crush them out of sadness.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 26 October 2020 16: 47 New
            -2
            Will not crush!
            These people will be given a hundred bucks each - and they will shut up!
            But I am so crazy that there are two pairs of different planes in the picture - you definitely cannot do without the Container - but you still need to touch them with the exit to the DRG site - is there an error here?
          2. Andrey Grad
            Andrey Grad 26 October 2020 16: 56 New
            +4
            "the people themselves will crush them out of sadness." This is a naive mistake of the common people, no nation itself will ever do anything without a professional organization, this is the real essence of people.
    3. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 26 October 2020 15: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: opuonmed
      ahahah turks well done fit in and fit in

      Do you mean the Turks are good fellows and are signing up, what's in Syria, what's in Libya with their Bayraktars? It's the turn to sign up in Karabakh as well. I agree.
      1. Yurahip
        Yurahip 26 October 2020 16: 21 New
        -4
        And what are our Armenian brothers doing ?! They listen to Aznavour and drink an upperktiv ...
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 26 October 2020 16: 32 New
          -1
          Quote: Jurachip
          And what are our Armenian brothers doing ?!

  2. And Makarov
    And Makarov 26 October 2020 14: 59 New
    19
    This means that moral support is also not superfluous.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 26 October 2020 16: 15 New
      11
      There is a price to all of this. If Azerbaijan seizes NK, then Erdogan will issue an "invoice". He now has a lot of "hot" spots. Why not ask Aliyev to help in Syria, Libya or Iraq, including the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan. Hence such open support. "One people - two countries", F-16, specialists and others watered. Erdogan's statements.
      Or why doesn't Erdogan ask Aliyev to jointly develop gas or oil fields in the Caspian? It is known that Baku and Tehran have controversial issues in the Caspian Sea. Iran has something to attend to - it is such a tandem ... so it began to transfer troops to the border.
      This is, of course, my point of view. But earlier for some reason Erdogan did not support Baku so zealously. hi
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 26 October 2020 16: 46 New
        -1
        Dauren, welcome! hi I haven't seen you for a long time.
        Quote: Kasym
        It is known that Baku and Tehran have controversial issues in the Caspian Sea.

        We, it seems, decided everything. what
        Quote: Kasym
        If Azerbaijan seizes NK, then Erdogan will issue an "invoice". He now has a lot of "hot" spots. Why not ask Aliyev to help in Syria, Libya or Iraq, including the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan.

        Well, if in euphoria from success ... And so, Azerbaijanis are not particularly fighters. Yes, and they knocked out (knocked out), they already have it decently.
        Rather, oil and gas.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 26 October 2020 16: 59 New
          +4
          Hi Stas!
          Kazakhstan and its neighbors have decided everything, but in the Iran-Turkmenistan-Azerbaijan triangle there are questions about the shelf and oil fields. Baku somehow began to conduct reconnaissance of one border section, but Iran drove the Navy and claimed its rights. Even m \ Dushanbe and Baku have questions. Something like this.
          Erdogan will at least ask Aliyev to show the flag: one people - two countries, you know. Many officers have been trained by the Turkish military. schools. So they will find a common language. Stas, if a friend helped you in a fight, you could deny him something like that - Aliyev will have nowhere to go ... Turks have a lot of graters with Arabs. The only partner there is Qatar (Erdogan from the Muslim Brotherhood movement, founded in 1928, is considered terrorist in Russia). hi
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 26 October 2020 17: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: Kasym
            Baku somehow began to conduct reconnaissance of one border section, but Iran drove the Navy and claimed its rights.

            I don't think Turkey is now ready for a confrontation with Iran. Because...
            Quote: Kasym
            Turks have a lot of graters with Arabs.

            The flag is to demonstrate this maximum.
            Quote: Kasym
            Erdogan of the Muslim Brotherhood movement

            Only the main ideologist from Erdogan is hiding in the states.
            Quote: Kasym
            Many officers have been trained by the Turkish military. schools.

            My brother is now in St. Petersburg, studying at the academy. Yesterday I called up. The Armenians all left. There remained Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Belarusians. Azerbaijan did not exist initially. And I haven't seen Kazakhs either. Tylovikov, cook yourself?
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 26 October 2020 18: 59 New
              +3
              In my opinion, the political support of Turkey against Iran on the disputed fields is enough. Erdogan knows how to inflame the situation and attract international attention. Here he will greet the United States, and so on. etc..
              So the demonstration of the flag ... Imagine if Azerbaijanis appear in Libya, Syria or Iraq (even a platoon) - this is a blow to the prestige of the CIS and Russia, which will be in polit. plan! "The CIS is worthless. The Russian Federation does not even control the situation in its underbelly. Etc., etc." - headlines in the Western media will be full of them. But Erdogan's chest is a wheel - will become an example for all Russophobes. Do we need it? They will play the situation in full.
              I meant that Erdogan is turning Turkey into an Islamic state. He departs from the precepts of Ataturk. And here he tried to propagandize his views - Karimov put him in his place. They even quarreled. Ours diplomatically explained to him that it would not fit here. No matter how it happens with Azerbaijan.
              Most of them study in their own and Russian military schools and institutes. CSTO. They even sent them to the USA, but there ... the fingers of one hand are enough to count. I remember the grandson of the National Academy of Sciences in England studied (the Royal Military Academy), but did not settle down here and took up ... football. hi
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 26 October 2020 19: 27 New
                +1
                It seems that "Grandfather" "Grandson" with this very "Football" did not want to see ... What did they teach a child in Sandhurst!
                Sincerely
              2. Selevc
                Selevc 27 October 2020 17: 43 New
                0
                He departs from the precepts of Ataturk.
                Before these same behests of Ataturk, Russia piled great on the Turks in western Transcaucasia in 1915-16 ... When the Turks lose, they always have covenants !!!
            2. Rubina
              Rubina 27 October 2020 01: 25 New
              +1
              Azerbaijanis study in Turkish military schools. I can't vouch about the Kazakhs, but apparently, too.
        2. Rubina
          Rubina 26 October 2020 17: 50 New
          0
          Well, well, not particularly fighters. Let's wait until Azerbaijani tactics are included in military textbooks
          1. saigon
            saigon 27 October 2020 09: 24 New
            +1
            Rubin, and what kind of knocking tactics is Azerbaijan currently demonstrating? And what is so unlikely that the Turks can teach, to fight little by little with the Kurdish terrorists?
            At the moment, nothing new in tactics is shown to return to earth.
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 26 October 2020 16: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Kasym
        But earlier, for some reason, Erdogan did not support Baku so zealously.

        And this was because it only recently came to the Russian Federation that if you give up your finger, they will bite off your whole hand right on the shoulder, and that ANYONE should not be launched to pacify peoples in the underbelly of Russia - such frivolity will be paid for with very heavy losses - and Ukraine is a lesson in that ...
        And more: NO POWER and NO actions will be excessive in our area of ​​responsibility, no matter what the five-column liberda whine about international law - it ended along with the Treaties from which the Americans emerged.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 26 October 2020 17: 14 New
          +3
          Hydrox, there are many aspects. Here is Pashinyan, who came on the wave of Tsv. roar .. Why would the Russian Federation support him-in America. the embassy in Yerevan has over 2000 employees, while the Russian embassy has only 80 diplomats ?! Aliyev calculated this moment subtly, and Erdogan supported.
          Erdogan has economic problems in Turkey - in order to maintain the "rating" he must be distracted by something. In Syria, Iraq and Libya, it doesn't work out very well.
          Azerbaijan has oil and gas with new infrastructure up to Turkey.
          Access to the Caspian Sea and further to other Turkic states. Although he was cheated here with his too zealous religious views.
          As for Russia. In my opinion, Putin has defined the boundaries of what is allowed for Erdogan. The Turkish army will intervene - Russia will intervene. Why else would Putin talk about the contacts of Shoigu, Lavrov and his own with Turkish colleagues. hi
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 26 October 2020 19: 35 New
            +1
            The "Cunning Plan of the Storm in the Glass" itself was sold to the Turks by a cooperative of former NATO military leaders led by Admiral Stavridis. So the Turks have already intervened. Advisers, special forces, UAV operators, f-16 (who are tied to the Turkish AWACS on duty). Russia will do "look".
            Sincerely
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 26 October 2020 20: 19 New
              +1
              The grandson is already in the next world.
              Such assistance is one thing, but another thing if he intervenes with his troops in this conflict. And in my opinion, Erdogan will not agree to this. Why then would Putin give compliments to Erdogan? Moreover, it seemed to me that Putin was as calm as a tank - apparently, they agreed. hi
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 26 October 2020 20: 34 New
                0
                Excuse me, but how will Turkey intervene with troops? Through Nakhchivan? Will it transfer with BTA? And how to establish interaction? And the ammunition of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces is not NATO (and the grenades of the wrong system).
                Personally, I am amazed at the stereotyped and predictable actions of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces ... How can the Turks help them if they were promoting this plan?
                Sincerely
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 26 October 2020 20: 55 New
                  0
                  Alternatively, h / w Georgia. "Baku - Tbilisi - Ceyhan". hi
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 26 October 2020 21: 10 New
                    +1
                    Given our base in Abkhazia? Yes, and the Aerospace Forces are not asleep ... I remember when before the start of the "war of three eights" Georgian UAVs invaded the airspace of Abkhazia, the 29th from the "Baltimore" jumped very quickly ... Then they even showed an Abkhaz pilot who "shot down" ... Yes, and I would not discount the Black Sea fleet ... "Moscow" came out of repair, and on it "Volcanoes" with special warheads. Three "Talvars" with UKSK. 6 "Varshavyanka" with "Calibers" and 4 "Buyan". The latter can shoot back both in Georgia and make the transition to the Caspian to strengthen the Caspian Flotilla. Taking into account the fact that the entire Black Sea area is controlled by aviation from the Crimean Peninsula and coastal missile systems deployed along our entire coastline, the fleet may well play "Pirates of the Caribbean".
                    Sincerely
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 27 October 2020 05: 42 New
                      +1
                      Shoot at georgians?
                      Well, you went too far! They are now already sitting in double diapers, so as not to make mistakes and not to fall under the hot hand - they have neither mob resources for war, nor human resources, and they want to fight even less than the Armenians - there is no interest in this war ...
                      1. nobody75
                        nobody75 27 October 2020 08: 23 New
                        0
                        If Turkey violates Georgia's neutrality by using its territory, then there will be few options ...
                        Sincerely
  3. Borik
    Borik 26 October 2020 15: 00 New
    11
    SO CAN THE FRENCHES TO ARMENIA SEND THEIR AIRCRAFT FOR MORAL SUPPORT.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 26 October 2020 15: 06 New
      +8
      The French can help by sending to the "front" ... local Armenians.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 26 October 2020 15: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: lexus
        The French can help by sending to the "front" ... local Armenians.

        If only the relatives of Charles Aznavour (Shahnur Aznavuryan) are concerned. It seems that they did not get a frail inheritance
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 26 October 2020 15: 32 New
          +1
          Fick with her, Storage ... But if the Kardashian sisters start coasting in the direction of the Caspian? With their "lower dimensions" a local incendiary bowling may well turn out. Total strike. And Sargsyan (Cher) will jam drones. winked
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 26 October 2020 17: 01 New
            +2
            In my opinion, for the little sisters, the entire Azerbaijani government will be ready to go on a week's vacation - it's time to joke around the airfields! laughing
      2. poquello
        poquello 26 October 2020 15: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: lexus
        The French can help by sending to the "front" ... local Armenians.

        will give lift, rise into the air
    2. Graz
      Graz 26 October 2020 15: 14 New
      +1
      at best, some minor sanctions lead to the Turks, but even then it is unlikely
      1. Hello from Baku
        Hello from Baku 26 October 2020 15: 18 New
        -5
        What sanctions can the French impose, the entire Middle East boycotts French goods, these are the sanctions.
        1. MTN
          MTN 26 October 2020 15: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Greetings from Baku
          What sanctions can the French impose, the entire Middle East boycotts French goods, these are the sanctions.

          Azerbaijan is also independent from French goods, but a French oil company operates in Azerbaijan. The day is not far off when they will be sent to 3 funny letters. Let's see then. And we also need to boycott their products.
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 26 October 2020 20: 39 New
            +1
            Kovidlobia will end ... France will achieve the expulsion of Turkey from NATO ... It will pull up its fleet to the shores of Turkey in the Mediterranean Sea ... The smallest thing is to kick the Turks out of Libya. And it turned out badly ... It was mainly the French who fought in the air ... On the ground - two French "ghost" divisions, and all the "dates" to the Turks? Disorder.
            Sincerely
        2. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 26 October 2020 16: 16 New
          0
          Quote: Greetings from Baku
          What sanctions can the French impose, the entire Middle East boycotts French goods, these are the sanctions.

          On French engines for Turkish anti-ship missiles Аttmaca. So by the way.
        3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 26 October 2020 16: 46 New
          -1
          Quote: Greetings from Baku
          the whole Middle East boycotts French goods, these are the sanctions.

          that is, in order for the Musli not to boycott French goods, Macron did not have to react to the medieval darkness with the teacher's head cut off? Like - well, it happens, it's just decapitation, it's not rape - so what? Yes, if I were the French, I would not care that some Azerbaijanis and dudes in burnus would impose sanctions on their goods. Europe profiled its red line with Muslim expansion, poured its identity down the toilet - yes. But at least she would have kept the remnants of pride.
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 26 October 2020 15: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Borik
      SO CAN THE FRENCHES TO ARMENIA SEND THEIR AIRCRAFT FOR MORAL SUPPORT.

      Prohibited by French law, and the foreign legion of the Air Force is mute)).
      1. Borik
        Borik 26 October 2020 15: 25 New
        +1
        It's a pity the Air Force is dumb. This means that Macron can only morally support.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 October 2020 15: 35 New
          +2
          He can do that. ))
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 26 October 2020 20: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            He knows how.

            Do you mean bags?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 26 October 2020 21: 03 New
              0
              It is the bags laughing
      2. poquello
        poquello 26 October 2020 15: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: Borik
        SO CAN THE FRENCHES TO ARMENIA SEND THEIR AIRCRAFT FOR MORAL SUPPORT.

        Prohibited by French law, and the foreign legion of the Air Force is mute)).

        and sho, now the brothers of the state can not help their brothers Armenians?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 October 2020 16: 18 New
          0
          Aviation - no
      3. Graz
        Graz 26 October 2020 15: 51 New
        +4
        don't tell my sneakers what are the french troops doing in mali
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 October 2020 16: 19 New
          +2
          There is a legion - it's not exactly French troops))
    4. Roman070280
      Roman070280 26 October 2020 15: 23 New
      +2
      Whether it will help the Armenians is a big question ..))
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 26 October 2020 15: 00 New
    18
    I saw a map today, if in the north of Artsakh the Armenians hold the defense and even managed to recapture part of the territory, then in the south there is a complete collapse. Baku has no desire to stop at all
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 26 October 2020 15: 05 New
      +5
      Of course not.
      Not busy yet for serious bargaining.
      The East is a disgusting affair.
      1. MTN
        MTN 26 October 2020 15: 51 New
        -1
        Quote: Livonetc
        Not busy yet for serious bargaining.

        More than enough. But if he seizes the Lachin corridor, then there is nothing to talk with the Armenians.
        1. poquello
          poquello 26 October 2020 16: 24 New
          -1
          Quote: MTN
          More than enough. But if he seizes the Lachin corridor, then there is nothing to talk with the Armenians.

          Duc there just Azikov the Armenians pushed on
        2. genisis
          genisis 26 October 2020 16: 26 New
          0
          Here is today's report from Berdzor
          1. MTN
            MTN 26 October 2020 18: 34 New
            0
            Quote: genisis
            Here is today's report from Berdzor

            What kind of Berdzor? There is no Dashshahdzor yet. Write it down correctly. After a couple of days, you can only look there but not paw.
        3. nobody75
          nobody75 26 October 2020 20: 44 New
          +1
          But if it captures the Lachin corridor

          Grab it already! The fact that you go to the border in this area, I predicted on the 4th day of the war ... I did not sit around and came up with a couple of funny "gizmos" for this case
          Sincerely
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 26 October 2020 15: 07 New
      +2
      They can "swell" in the south. Iran will not interfere.
    3. Greenwood
      Greenwood 26 October 2020 15: 19 New
      +2
      Is there a link to the map?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 26 October 2020 15: 27 New
        +9
        Quote: Greenwood
        Is there a link to the map?

        I don't remember exactly what edition it was, but somewhere like that
        1. Hello from Baku
          Hello from Baku 26 October 2020 15: 39 New
          0
          The map is quite old, as of yesterday the capture of Kubatly and nearby villages was secured.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 26 October 2020 15: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: Greetings from Baku
            The map is quite old, as of yesterday the capture of Kubatly and nearby villages was secured.

            In Kubatly there was an attempt to slow down the Azerbaijanis - but it was unsuccessful. Then there was an Azerbaijani attempt to break through to Lachin, but it was also unsuccessful. Now the Az-army has the most disgusting work - after pulling up the reserves, take heights, identify Am firing points with live bait, etc. With air support, this is easier, but aviation is not so effective in nose-to-nose battles, the only thing is that when the theater of operations is saturated with reconnaissance drones, they will quickly spot the Armenian art.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 26 October 2020 17: 12 New
              +1
              Armenians should run out of ammunition from day to day :: there is only one option - to get trophies from the Az Armed Forces, there is nowhere to bring the BP to the Armenians
          2. The comment was deleted.
            1. Orange bigg
              Orange bigg 26 October 2020 16: 19 New
              +2
              Quote: Greetings from Baku
              I love fucking, but what are the cons? For the truth?

              Forget it. They put it and put it. Consider that the Armenians attacked you on the Internet.
        2. MTN
          MTN 26 October 2020 15: 52 New
          -1
          Quote: APASUS
          I don't remember exactly what edition it was, but somewhere like that

          In the south, Gubadli was taken. Why isn't it green?
      2. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 26 October 2020 15: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        Is there a link to the map?

        Link to the map of military operations in Nagorno-Karabakh on the evening of October 25.
        https://riafan.ru/1325186-den-29-i-baku-i-erevan-zaklyuchili-novoe-peremirie-pod-davleniem-ssha
      3. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 26 October 2020 16: 20 New
        +2
        25/10/20 There was such a version, but no one knows for sure
  5. svp67
    svp67 26 October 2020 15: 00 New
    +6
    And what and who else did the Turks leave there?
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 26 October 2020 15: 09 New
      20
      Well, logically, the pilots and all the technical staff. Plus drones and military personnel working with them. Well, according to some sources (from countries friendly to Azerbaijan wink ) units of the MTR and a bunch of babakhs.
      But nooo, Azerbaijanis are all by themselves. They have a lot of pilots on the F-16, they quickly retrained from tanks laughing
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 26 October 2020 15: 02 New
    13
    First, Aliyev rejected the fact of the presence of Turkish formations in Baku, now he rejects the likelihood of their use in the war earlier. After such statements, one involuntarily thinks that the Armenians were telling the truth when they said that Turkish F16s are fighting with might and main in Karabakh!
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 26 October 2020 15: 17 New
      11
      Legally, you can't dig. Azerbaijan is conducting an anti-terrorist operation on its territory recognized by all and has the right to ask anyone for help. Just as Assad did in Syria, calling on the Russian Aerospace Forces to help.
    2. denis obuckov
      denis obuckov 26 October 2020 15: 29 New
      +2
      Then he will say that this is a gift from the Sultan along with the crews.
    3. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 26 October 2020 16: 28 New
      +2
      Aliyev said in an interview almost 3 weeks ago that F-16s are in our airports, but they are on the ground, not participating in hostilities. You see, he talked about this. You can search and find his interview.
  7. Asad
    Asad 26 October 2020 15: 03 New
    +1
    Well, there are planes at the airfield, yes, will they have to fly for a long time? It is bad for Armenians that no one installs their planes with them!
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 26 October 2020 15: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: ASAD
      Well, there are planes at the airfield, yes, will they have to fly for a long time? It is bad for Armenians that no one installs their planes with them!

      So if there is external aggression, then it can begin just with the destruction of these Fu-16.
      1. novel66
        novel66 26 October 2020 15: 18 New
        -2
        I wonder how they will fight the Su-30
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 October 2020 15: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: novel xnumx
          I wonder how they will fight the Su-30

          Calmly and without straining - 4 Su will run out of ammunition earlier than the Turks F-16.
          1. spirit
            spirit 26 October 2020 16: 32 New
            +3
            There is just no ammunition for them) unless they have supplied them now, and everything rests against the pilots, they say they were not even prepared for air combat, since they themselves decided to prepare them and not with us) in general, the laying on the bottom of the Armenians is of lower average quality hi
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 26 October 2020 16: 46 New
              +2
              The Turks have an annual flight time of 140-180 hours. Armenians - I don't know, the rumors are different. 8 to 40 - from what I've heard
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 26 October 2020 15: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: 1976AG
        then it can begin just with the destruction of these Fu-16
        The Turks have more than 16 of these F-250s in service, not counting other aircraft. And they will not leave such an action unanswered, unambiguously.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 26 October 2020 16: 43 New
          -2
          Quote: Greenwood
          Quote: 1976AG
          then it can begin just with the destruction of these Fu-16
          The Turks have more than 16 of these F-250s in service, not counting other aircraft. And they will not leave such an action unanswered, unambiguously.

          It depends on what and where to beat. You can simply disable the runway, and then no matter how many Fu-16s there are, none will take off.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 26 October 2020 16: 48 New
            +4
            Quote: 1976AG

            It depends on what and where to beat. You can simply disable the runway, and then no matter how many Fu-16s there are, none will take off.

            Bombed in the morning - restored in the afternoon))
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 26 October 2020 16: 50 New
              -3
              You do not confuse computer shooters with a real war)
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 26 October 2020 17: 13 New
                0
                I don’t confuse it - even after the bombardment of the Syrian base Shayrat with tomahawks, it was already functioning the next day. And this is Syria - a war-torn country. hi
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 26 October 2020 23: 10 New
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  I don’t confuse it - even after the bombardment of the Syrian base Shayrat with tomahawks, it was already functioning the next day. And this is Syria - a war-torn country. hi

                  So you see where they got to. The most important part was not hurt.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 26 October 2020 23: 18 New
                    -1
                    The runway suffered - first of all, even if it had been demolished - a new one would have been built and very quickly
  8. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 26 October 2020 15: 03 New
    +8
    Read Armenians destroyed BTG on the outskirts of Lachin using MLRS.

    On Friday, Armenian Defense Minister David Tonoyan arrived in the NKR capital Stepanakert, who assumed command of the Karabakh troops. Not the fact that this is what affected the further course of events. Most likely, the Armenians managed to concentrate sufficient forces to cut off the advancing Azerbaijani grouping from supplies on Saturday, October 24, and cover it with MLRS fire. As a result, the advancing battalion tactical group (BTG) of the Azerbaijani army was destroyed, and the forces supporting it retreated to Kubatly.
    1. Hello from Baku
      Hello from Baku 26 October 2020 15: 19 New
      -7
      Are there proofs?
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 26 October 2020 15: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Greetings from Baku
        Are there proofs?


        There are some details.
        The Armenians managed to concentrate sufficient forces to cut off the advancing Azerbaijani group from supplies on Saturday, October 24, and cover it with MLRS fire. As a result, the advancing battalion tactical group (BTG) of the Azerbaijani army was destroyed, and the forces supporting it retreated to Kubatly.

        This is the first serious tactical victory of the Armenians in the southern sector of the front after leaving practically the entire "security zone" and losing access to the Iranian border. Moreover, the unsuccessful defense of Zangelan led to a chaotic retreat of the Armenian forces north to Lachin, which again bordered on strategic defeat.

        Another thing is that Azerbaijani troops, accustomed to advancing across the steppe, cannot adequately storm the foothills and mountains. There are about 1700 meters above sea level between Kubatly and Lachin mountains, and Azerbaijani troops cannot continue the offensive at the same pace. They came across the defense of the "mountain fortress" Karabakh, which they are not ready to storm. The aviation of Azerbaijan and drones, which previously largely provided the pace of advancement of Azerbaijanis across the steppe, cannot operate in such a relief.

        https://m.vz.ru/world/2020/10/26/1067229.html
      2. brr1
        brr1 26 October 2020 16: 12 New
        -1
        Quote: Greetings from Baku
        Are there proofs?

        Only corpses
  9. Operator
    Operator 26 October 2020 15: 09 New
    +2
    The Turkish brothers left the F-16 together with the pilots, obviously - that's why they were afraid to go into battle.
  10. Mwg
    Mwg 26 October 2020 15: 12 New
    +6
    Who was the message from Aliyev? And the F16 by themselves do not leave there, and the pilots are attached and ground maintenance and service infrastructure, incl. and BC
  11. Nasdaq
    Nasdaq 26 October 2020 15: 21 New
    +8
    Of course, Azerbaijani pilots know how to fly an F-16 and use "western" weapons.
    Turks have nothing to do with it.
    And everyone around is just fools who don't know anything.
    Turkish "ichtamnet" in all its glory
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 26 October 2020 15: 27 New
      +6
      Turkish "ichtamnet" in all its glory

      Well, what .. if we already believed Putin about the miners in Donbass .. which forbids us now to trust Aliyev ..))
      1. Nasdaq
        Nasdaq 26 October 2020 15: 35 New
        +4
        The difference is that between miners (digging ATGMs in mines) and fighters, it speaks of a fundamentally different level of support.
        The F-16 and the MiG-29 cannot be confused. This is just the tip of the iceberg that is visible to everyone. But how many (the underwater part of the iceberg) there are Turkish instructors / advisers / UAV operators / weapons / ammunition, a good question.
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 26 October 2020 15: 42 New
          +2
          The difference is that between miners (digging ATGMs in mines) and fighters.


          For me, it makes no difference .. she is nonsense and nonsense in Africa ..
          Or Aliyev has the right to breach just the same as Putin ??

          But how many Turkish instructors / advisers / UAV / weapons / ammunition operators are there, a good question.
          In Donbass, this was no less ... and not only instructors ..

          So I completely agree with the phrase "Turkish" ichtamnet "in all its glory"
          Armenians are still lucky that the Turkish "vacationers" did not catch up ..))
          By the way, they may well end up at the helm of those F-16s ..
          1. Nasdaq
            Nasdaq 26 October 2020 15: 56 New
            0
            The question is not whether Aliyev has the right to lie.
            The question of the level of Erdogan's intervention.
            And yes, in proxy wars, pawns bear all the damage. Conductors are not strongly substituted.
            About the F-16 pilots, everything is clear.
            If the F-16s are used there, the GBU-39s must have worked.
            As they say, not by single bayraktar.
      2. 1976AG
        1976AG 26 October 2020 16: 49 New
        -1
        Quote: Roman070280
        Turkish "ichtamnet" in all its glory

        Well, what .. if we already believed Putin about the miners in Donbass .. which forbids us now to trust Aliyev ..))

        Believe it or not, no evidence of the presence of our military in Donbass was found, and they searched for a long time and carefully. But the presence of American instructors in Ukraine is no secret to anyone. They teach VSUshnikov to fight .. disgrace ..
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        2. Roman070280
          Roman070280 27 October 2020 08: 45 New
          0
          Believe it or not, they never found evidence of the presence of our military in Donbass, and they searched for a long time and carefully


          If my mistress's husband went there .. and still not a few friends told about it .. Do I need proof? I never looked for them ..
          Whoever needs it, he understands everything himself ... especially when Putin personally spoke about vacationers ... that is, he acknowledged his presence ...

          But the presence of American instructors in Ukraine is no secret to anyone.
          I have no doubt about it .. Although I have less objective data for this .. only rumors ..
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 26 October 2020 15: 36 New
      0
      Baku does not exclude the possibility of using Turkish F-16 fighters located in Azerbaijan.

      So who is he trying to scare with these airplanes? It's just ridiculous and not solid. laughing
      1. Nasdaq
        Nasdaq 26 October 2020 15: 47 New
        +1
        They are not afraid here. They say that the intervention of a third party will lead to the direct intervention of the Turks. And who did they mean by third party? Obviously not Iran, Belarus or Kazakhstan.
        Moreover, this statement was made after the demonstration of the Russian flag on the border of Karabakh and Armenia.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 26 October 2020 15: 58 New
          +1
          Iran is a controversial issue, as it is he who is constantly pulling troops to the border with Azerbaijan. A couple of times Iran directly fired at the Azerbaijani army. And the Russian flag shows, as it fulfills allied responsibilities to protect the borders of Armenia.
          1. Nasdaq
            Nasdaq 26 October 2020 16: 04 New
            +1
            Well, I don't think he was addressing the Iranians.
            It is highly unlikely that Muslim Iran will enter the war against Azerbaijan (supported by Turkey) on the side of Christian Armenia.
            1. Orange bigg
              Orange bigg 26 October 2020 16: 11 New
              +5
              Iran in the first Karabakh supported Christian Armenia. This is just for your information. Iran cares about itself first of all. Azerbaijanis live in the north of Iran. There are clashes between Azerbaijanis and Persians in Iran itself. Baku has repeatedly stated about the possible recognition of South Azerbaijan. NKR and Armenia act as a counterweight to Azerbaijan and its ambitions. Iran seeks to maintain this balance, not wishing to strengthen Azerbaijan.
            2. 1976AG
              1976AG 26 October 2020 17: 00 New
              -1
              Quote: Nasdaq
              Well, I don't think he was addressing the Iranians.
              It is highly unlikely that Muslim Iran will enter the war against Azerbaijan (supported by Turkey) on the side of Christian Armenia.

              Well, it's generally stupid to address Russia. If such a decision is made, then Turkey will not hinder us.
        2. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 26 October 2020 16: 41 New
          0
          Armenia has 4 SU-30s. Imagine, suddenly they fly towards Baku, bomb something very important and miss the air defense. Then it is safer to meet them with an F-16 than with a MiG-29. It's not a fact that a MiG will shoot if will shoot, not the fact that it will shoot down.
          1. Orange bigg
            Orange bigg 26 October 2020 16: 45 New
            +3
            Then it is safer to meet them with the F-16 than with the MiG-29. It is not a fact that a MiG will shoot if it fires, it is not a fact that it will shoot down.

            I wonder why the F-16 is more reliable than the MiG-29? Both are classmates, veterans of the Cold War. Although if the MiG-29 was "modernized" somewhere in Lviv, then yes, the F-16 will be more reliable after that. laughing
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 26 October 2020 16: 49 New
              -1
              The specialists probably know something that is not available to us, and it was just a version that this is additional insurance.
              1. Orange bigg
                Orange bigg 26 October 2020 16: 57 New
                0
                Of course they know about the unsatisfactory state of the Azerbaijani Air Force. Therefore, the bet on the F-16 is Turkish.
                https://m.gazeta.ru/army/2019/07/25/12532885.shtml
  12. denis obuckov
    denis obuckov 26 October 2020 15: 28 New
    +3
    I remember earlier that Aliyev, when he accused Armenia of using f16, said that there were no such aircraft on the Azerbaijani soil.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 26 October 2020 15: 33 New
      +3
      Here is news from two weeks ago ..

      15:23  9 October 2020

      Aliyev acknowledged the presence of Turkish F-16 fighters in Azerbaijan

      Turkish F-16 fighters are indeed in Azerbaijan, but they do not take part in hostilities, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said. October 8 in an interview with CNN Arabic.

      The reporter reminded Aliyev that there are satellite images on which, presumably, Turkish F-16 aircraft are at one of the Azerbaijani bases. “You didn't buy the F-16. Is it true that these F-16s on the ground indicate significant support for Azerbaijan (from Turkey)? " She asked.

      “I agree with you when you say 'on earth'. F-16s arrived in Azerbaijan to participate in military exercises, ”Aliyev said.

      “Turkey is our ally, and it is a common practice to conduct joint exercises with the involvement of the air force. By the way, this year, due to the pandemic, we conducted exercises only twice. One of them was shortly before the Armenian attack on Azerbaijan, ”the Azerbaijani president said.

      “So the F-16s are on the ground, they don’t fly, they don’t take part in any hostilities in any way,” he added.

      “I want to tell you about one Armenian fake. In the early days of the clashes, they claimed that Turkish F-16s had shot down an Armenian Su-25. This is a lie, and everyone who accuses us of this must now apologize. Because everyone already knows that this is fake. F-16s are here, but they are on the ground, as you correctly noted, ”the Azerbaijani president continued.
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 26 October 2020 15: 39 New
      +1
      Nowhere so much lies as in war and fishing. Do you think the Armenian Su-25s fell by themselves? As in Syria, they used the F-16 against Assad's aircraft, and here against the Armenian aircraft.
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 26 October 2020 17: 01 New
      -1
      And foreign mercenaries said no.
  13. K-50
    K-50 26 October 2020 15: 42 New
    +1
    Aliyev: Turkish brothers left us F-16 fighters for support

    Probably with the pilots? what
    Because no one will give a complex technique without the ability to use it, because this is nonsense. Aliyev, on the other hand, does not have trained qualified pilots to operate the Fu-16s, as well as there are no technicians to maintain them. request
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 26 October 2020 15: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: K-50
      Probably with the pilots?
      I think yes. And most likely with the best of the best, with a big touch of IMHO. So that if something happens to act in battles as efficiently as possible.
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 26 October 2020 15: 56 New
      0
      Probably with the pilots? what

      Well, Otpusknikov has not been canceled ..))
  14. Xenofont
    Xenofont 26 October 2020 16: 11 New
    +1
    The Kremlin's response to Turkish rudeness is increased air pressure on pro-Turkish bandits in Idlib, and Assad has long ago gathered a group for an offensive.
  15. Ulrih
    Ulrih 26 October 2020 16: 37 New
    -1
    "The moped is not mine, I posted a statement."
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 26 October 2020 16: 39 New
    +1
    The bird cannot be saved if the cat has dug into it with its claws!
    Let's see how quickly the process of eating the carcass goes am
    1. cniza
      cniza 26 October 2020 16: 55 New
      +1
      Yes, we can already talk about dependence on Turkey, and then a soft occupation ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 October 2020 17: 51 New
        +2
        Strange, Sunni Shiites, friendship forever or what? It is doubtful how that.
        However, we don’t want to pry our nose into questions of religion. Unfortunately, from the other side I did not wait for this, we will have a full meal! If only the top is not covered !!!
        1. cniza
          cniza 26 October 2020 18: 02 New
          +2
          I don't believe it either, it will be a master and a subordinate ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 October 2020 18: 07 New
            +1
            There will be cultural, economic subordination ... and then everything else.
            The bird itself cannot escape!
            Only external stakeholders can break it all!
            The question is, to whom is this interesting ??? of those who can break it?
            1. cniza
              cniza 26 October 2020 20: 46 New
              +2
              Everything is so complicated there and we must not forget that the United States is very closely following the development of the situation ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 26 October 2020 21: 55 New
                +1
                Well, yes, they are also far from happy with everything ... but, they are not up to it now, so Schaub at a serious level to do all this. Everyone is waiting and we will wait, because any of our attempts run into a wall. It is advisable to keep your forehead intact.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 27 October 2020 08: 43 New
                  +3
                  Yerevan has the largest US Embassy, ​​so there is someone to deal with, but the center may not accept their efforts and recommendations ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 27 October 2020 09: 48 New
                    +1
                    The embassy, ​​the technical structure, as a rule, work according to the plan .... when things are serious or deviate from the plan, larger faces intervene, as a rule.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 27 October 2020 12: 50 New
                      +3
                      So it is, but over 2500 employees, not counting those. personnel, how is it for the state of Armenia?
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 October 2020 14: 50 New
                        +1
                        Probably there are no cicadas there, as in Cuba, and rum is not being driven ... here are the "diplomatic" ones and have proliferated to the point.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 27 October 2020 14: 55 New
                        +4
                        Oh forgot about the cicadas laughing , and so yes bred and contain them for something ...
  • cniza
    cniza 26 October 2020 16: 54 New
    +2
    According to the country's President Ilham Aliyev, Turkish fighters will be used in case of external aggression against the republic.


    Is he hinting at us? And the fighters, after all, together with the pilots, and this already looks like an occupation ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 26 October 2020 17: 52 New
      +1
      And the pilots and the staff ... the security and a lot more! The carcass is soon to be eaten! There is nothing more to doubt about.
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 October 2020 18: 05 New
        +2
        Of course, that is, a decent contingent ...
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 26 October 2020 18: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      And the fighters, after all, together with the pilots, and this already looks like an occupation ...
      According to this logic, Russia occupied Syria. fool
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 October 2020 18: 21 New
        +1
        There are NO political, concrete ideas, slogans in Syria!
        The slogan "one people, two countries" with a distant (maybe close), specific aim!
        ONE PEOPLE, ONE EMPIRE !!!
        This is complete nonsense, but a lot of things can be done about it! And it's CLOSE to us ...
        Any associations do not arise?
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 26 October 2020 18: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          This is complete nonsense, but a lot of things can be done about it! And it's CLOSE to us ...
          Any associations do not arise?
          What are your suggestions? Can you somehow prevent Aliyev from being friends with Erdogan?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 October 2020 20: 15 New
            +1
            This is a policy of high spheres, we can only look at the results of such processes from the couch ... we can, of course, express concern, but even here they do without us.
          2. cniza
            cniza 26 October 2020 20: 44 New
            +2
            Friends against whom? Armenian people or Christianity?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 26 October 2020 22: 03 New
              +1
              The goals of the Sultan are quite understandable, but the leadership of Azerbaijan is to "gently" push the Azerbaijani leadership towards the solution of an old problem !!! Especially when it is clear that the only one who could really support the Armenian state, the supporting hand, had to remove, because they began to bite with all their foolishness.
              Paradox ... but it was their choice.
        2. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 26 October 2020 21: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          There are NO political, concrete ideas, slogans in Syria!
          The slogan "one people, two countries" with a distant (maybe close), specific aim!
          ONE PEOPLE, ONE EMPIRE !!!
          This is complete nonsense, but a lot of things can be done about it! And it's CLOSE to us ...
          Any associations do not arise?

          Hitler, it seems, also started with the Anschluss, though then he did not finish very well. If the Turks are ready to repeat this path, then one can only wish them good luck.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 October 2020 22: 06 New
            0
            In, in, this immediately comes to mind!
            But, history, it seems, has not taught some.
            Well, shozh, the rake is already lying and waiting for the REGULAR step on them!
            1. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 26 October 2020 22: 13 New
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              In, in, this immediately comes to mind!
              But, history, it seems, has not taught some.
              Well, shozh, the rake is already lying and waiting for the REGULAR step on them!

              The main thing is that the stalk would give them straight between the eyes, before they ditch a burst of people.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 26 October 2020 22: 17 New
                0
                Such events do not happen dry!
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 27 October 2020 09: 49 New
            0
            If I had stopped at the Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland (by the way, Austria and the Sudetenland were not part of the German Empire), then Germany would still have these territories in its composition. Although Hitler would not have stopped.
            1. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 27 October 2020 09: 52 New
              0
              Quote: Sergej1972
              If I had stopped at the Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland (by the way, Austria and the Sudetenland were not part of the German Empire), then Germany would still have these territories in its composition. Although Hitler would not have stopped.

              Let's see if Ertogan stops or if his first success blows him away.
      2. cniza
        cniza 26 October 2020 20: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: cniza
        And the fighters, after all, together with the pilots, and this already looks like an occupation ...
        According to this logic, Russia occupied Syria. fool


        At first glance, it seems similar, but no ... we pursued and are pursuing the goal of eliminating terrorists, and here is an interethnic and centuries-old conflict of two nationalities ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 26 October 2020 22: 09 New
          +1
          For us, Syria is just a "client" with whom a contract was signed and real assistance was provided in its execution.
          The Sultan has a different situation and intentions, about which everyone has long understood everything!
          1. cniza
            cniza 27 October 2020 08: 51 New
            +3
            Well, we got all our "gingerbread" from Syria, or rather continue to receive, but the Sultan wants fame and remains in history as a collector of the empire, and he deeply does not care about the fate of people ...
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 27 October 2020 09: 51 New
              +1
              And what does Azerbaijan have to do with this collection? Before joining the Russian Empire, its territory was part of Persia.
              1. cniza
                cniza 27 October 2020 12: 51 New
                +2
                It is necessary to ask Erdogan, he has his own views ...
  • Old26
    Old26 26 October 2020 17: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: Thrifty
    First, Aliyev rejected the fact of the presence of Turkish formations in Baku, now he rejects the likelihood of their use in the war earlier. After such statements, one involuntarily thinks that the Armenians were telling the truth when they said that Turkish F16s are fighting with might and main in Karabakh!

    They act and no one knows about it. Yes, they are not only "stealth" that no one saw them in the air, but by analogy with our "Varshavyanka" - "black hole". but already in the atmosphere. Does not reflect any radar beams and absorbs them. This means that Azerbaijani AN-2s can be seen and shot down in the air, while F-16s are just invisible. And not only the Armenians do not see, but also the radar station of our S-300V complex in Gyumri. And the instrumental range of the 9S15M is about 330 km. And they didn’t see it, wow ...

    Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
    On Friday, Armenian Defense Minister David Tonoyan arrived in the NKR capital Stepanakert, who assumed command of the Karabakh troops.

    That is, Armenia itself shows that there is no INDEPENDENT KARABAKH was not and no. Once the troops of the NKR JSC are commanded by the Minister of Defense of the neighboring state, who makes big eyes and says that Karabakh is independent and is not even recognized by Armenia. In fact, Karabakh and Armenia are one whole.

    Quote: OrangeBigg
    So who is he trying to scare with these airplanes? It's just funny and not solid

    Of course they won't scare anyone. The raid of valiant Armenian pilots on the SU-30 is several times greater than the Turkish raid on the F-16. so they won't scare anyone. They will probably be able to shoot down all the SU-30s of the Armenian Air Force, but they will not frighten her.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 26 October 2020 17: 28 New
      0
      Yes, they are not only "stealth", that no one saw them in the air, but by analogy with our "Varshavyanka" - "black hole". but already in the atmosphere. Does not reflect any radar beams and absorbs them. This means that Azerbaijani AN-2s can be seen and shot down in the air, while F-16s are just invisible.

      Why what? Are you currently fishing or at war? It's just that F-16s are being used as interceptors and are extremely cautious from a tactical point of view, like in Syria. They weren't substituted. They shot down. It was true that there was information that 1 F-16 of the Armenian air defense was shot down, 2 more F-16s were damaged at the airfield during the shelling of Ganja.
    2. Nasdaq
      Nasdaq 27 October 2020 01: 33 New
      +1
      and the F-16 is just invisible. And not only the Armenians do not see, but also the radar station of our S-300V complex in Gyumri. And the instrumental range of the 9S15M is about 330 km. And they didn’t see it, wow ...

      You probably forgot about the relief. The F-16 can safely fly beyond the Lesser Caucasus (mountain range). The radar does not "see" through the mountains.
      Plus, from Gyumri to, say, Gadrut, about 300 km in a straight line.
      You don't have to be stealthy here to go unnoticed.
  • shultz21070
    shultz21070 26 October 2020 17: 20 New
    0
    And the Turkish pilots remained on the contract, brotherly
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 26 October 2020 17: 27 New
    +1
    To my regret, the majority of the population of each side still does not understand the essence of this war and its prospects. Until now, rabid propagandists are still the "main voices" of each of the parties to this conflict. The population is ready to be deceived, and to console the pain of losses - to believe in fictitious peremogami. The Armenians were not ready for war and made a number of political miscalculations, both in foreign and domestic policy. The Armenian leadership missed all the preparations for the war in Azerbaijan and spent every effort to weaken the clan of Karabakh Armenians, depriving them of the opportunity to adequately prepare for the inevitable war. It broke off the "strategic partnership" with Russia and began to play "multi-vector". Multi-vectors convinced Pashinyan that words and external forces could be overcome, as he did in the internal political struggle. Gathering support within Armenia, Pashinyan used nationalist "Ura-Armenian" slogans to activate his electorate and the Western diaspora. Than very seriously offended Azerbaijanis, but pretended that it is normal and will work.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 26 October 2020 17: 36 New
    +2
    the Azerbaijanis,, took control of the Lachin corridor. Whoever is in the subject will understand what it is for Karabakh. In short, tryndets a kitten. 
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 26 October 2020 17: 45 New
    +2
    It's just that the Armenians turned out to be insane for what they were paying for. They thought they were the smartest, and there is a queue of those in the world who want to rush and fight for Karabakh. The result is clearly in front of everyone's eyes. Smart leaders of countries will draw conclusions. Stupid as usual. laughing
  • locman
    locman 26 October 2020 20: 03 New
    0
    Aliyev: Turkish brothers left us F-16 fighters for support

    With crews? But Aliyev was lying that the Turkish Air Force had no support either ..
    No wonder the Armenian destroyed the S-300 (article above) Well, well ..
    An interesting trinity was created there Azerbaijan-Turkey-Israel.!
    I hope Iran reacts accordingly .. This is because they are starting to throw stones in their direction
    Aliyev will be framed, I feel specifically!
  • parkello
    parkello 26 October 2020 20: 24 New
    0
    Turkish brothers ..? The Tambov wolf is their brother ..
  • Astra55
    Astra55 26 October 2020 21: 44 New
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    No matter how these f-16s go sideways to Aliyev
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 26 October 2020 22: 29 New
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    Quote: parkello
    Turkish brothers ..? The Tambov wolf is their brother ..

    They are brothers for the Azeri, or at least the Azeri think that the Turks are brothers for them. hi
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 October 2020 09: 30 New
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    Haha, said Little Red Riding Hood and thought otherwise.
  • iouris
    iouris 27 October 2020 10: 41 New
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    What is the strength in, brother?
  • Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 27 October 2020 17: 24 New
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    And recently he lied so selflessly that there is no Turkish aviation in Azer! Yes, we can say that Aliyev fell under his "Turkish brother". And this pose will come out sideways to him. laughing