President of Azerbaijan: "We are ready to agree on a ceasefire today"

Over the past night in the zone of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, a stable tense situation remains. In the evening, the Azerbaijani army once again fired at settlements, in particular, the villages of Karmir Shuka, Tagavard, Gishi, Spitakashen, Martuni region and the village of Avetaranots, Askeran region.

This was stated by the press service of the Artsakh Defense Army (unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic).

According to the official representative of the Armenian Defense Ministry Shushan Stepanyan, units of the armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh continue operations to detect and destroy Azerbaijani sabotage and reconnaissance groups.

At this time, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, in an interview with the American news channel Fox News, stated that Baku was ready to begin coordinating a ceasefire with the Armenian side.

We are ready to agree on a ceasefire today. But at the same time, Armenia, its prime minister must declare that they are committed to the principles developed jointly by the United States, Russia and France.

- said the Azerbaijani leader.

First of all, it is about the principles according to which Azerbaijan should get under its control first 5 regions adjacent to the unrecognized NKR, then two more regions.

Earlier, Yerevan has repeatedly stated that it adheres to these basic principles, but recently Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan spoke about the impossibility of resolving the conflict by diplomatic methods and called on the Armenian people to “take weapon into your hands and stand in defense of your homeland. " At the same time, he announced his readiness for compromises if Baku is also ready to make concessions.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Ilham oglu, you have already agreed 2 times, once even in Moscow, but the words do not fit with the result - there is no ceasefire! Pickaxe all falls on Savka, the slaughter is underway, for the third time we take a fork and a plate into our hands to collect pasta from our ears? You, like your opponents, want the world like a hungry person to go to the toilet! !! We would like real peace, even for a while, would find the strength to cease fire, like you and the Armenians! !!

[Alena-Baku]

After these two times, the Azerbaijani city of Ganja was shelled where the children were killed. So for information, Ganja and Mingachevir are not in the zone of conflict and hostilities.

[Thrifty]

Alena Baku - who were they waiting for? Why didn't they stop shooting for the first time? Or, the euphoria from the work of drones turned my head, “an easy and quick victory is not far off!” If you have already promised to cease fire in Moscow, keep your word! Once you were deceived, but "who once lied, whoever believes you, promised a second time, now for the third time! The answer is clear - Azerbaijan does not need peace! !!! You are burning with the desire to win everything at once, and the tales about the ceasefire are only an imitation of the desire to create the appearance of readiness to a truce, albeit a temporary one! !!!

[Livonetc]

Aliyev confirms the previously reached agreements.
"We are ready today to agree on a ceasefire. But at the same time, Armenia, its prime minister must declare that they are committed to the principles developed jointly by the United States, Russia and France."
It's up to Pashinyan.
Let's look at his position.

[Tatyana]

I don’t believe Aliyev not a gram!
Aliyev has the same euphoria that Turchinov had when he announced the ATO in Ukraine in the Donbass and Luhansk regions in 2014. And now the tactics of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan are the same as those of the Armed Forces in advancing saboteurs into the territory of the DPR and LPR - i.e. those same "toad races" of the APU units on the front line.
The only difference is that if Kiev is under the external control of the United States, then Aliyev is essentially under the external control of Turkey and personally under the hypnotic influence of Erdogan himself.

In other words, as they say, Erdogan and Aliyev not only sang, but it is Aliyev that Erdogan controls with his Turkish statement "Two states - one people!", Which means from the Islamist extremist Erdogan nothing more than the absorption by Turkey of the allegedly independent Aliyev Azerbaijan.

[TermNachTer]

Durchinov's chances were whiter, no matter how miserable the ukroSS were, but in Donbass there was nothing at all to oppose them. The Armenians in NKAO have at least some kind of army. But judging by the fact that Aliyev spoke about peace, it means that the generals explained to him that Operation Barbarossa had failed, there are no prospects, therefore it is necessary to negotiate.

[Tatyana]

Quote: TermNachTER

But judging by the fact that Aliyev spoke about peace, it means that the generals explained to him that Operation Barbarossa had failed, there are no prospects, therefore it is necessary to negotiate.

The fact that the operation "Barbaros" in the pro-Turkish Azerbaijan failed is understandable for the hedgehog!
At the same time, it is natural that the tactics of waging war with the NKR by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces military from Turkey under the leadership of the General Staff of Azerbaijan in the current weather and local conditions CHANGE, but at the same time neither Aliyev nor Erdogan canceled their main - STRATEGIC - tasks.

[TermNachTer]

So let's drink to the fact that our desires coincide with our capabilities))) Turkish generals, before planning Operation Barbarossa, need to come to the scene, see with their own eyes, walk with their feet, and then plan. But the guys came to believe in new technologies - UAVs, thermal imagers, etc. By the way, Canada has banned its Austrian "daughter" from the supply of components for the engines "Bayraktar". So, until the Turks find a replacement - "bayraktar" fffsёёё))))

[Leeds]

They believed, and only documented under one and a half hundred ONLY tanks, not counting everything else. No wonder they believed. And they hardly introduced you to the plans of the operation.

[TermNachTer]

Confirmed by documents?))) Are you talking about those funny vidosiki?))) Are you sure that they are real and not drawn? We will know the real losses when the war ends and both sides run to buy new equipment. Then we will find out the real losses. In the meantime, these are commercials of Israeli and Turkish manufacturers. It is not necessary to know the plans. Nothing complicated - based on the configuration of the contact line and the terrain.

[Tatyana]

Quote: TermNachTER

Turkish generals, before planning Operation Barbarossa, need to arrive at the site, see with their own eyes, walk with their feet, and then plan.

So after all, the Turkish generals in the summer of 2020 at the joint Turkish-Azerbaijani exercises in Azerbaijan looked at everything, and proceeded with their feet and planned everything, and even for the future of the offensive on the NKR left in Azerbaijan all the necessary Turkish equipment and their Turkish military officers from the command staff. ...

In addition, it should be borne in mind that the military personnel in the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan - ethnic Azerbaijanis - have also been in the last few years. were trained in military universities in Turkey. With what "patriotic" mentality they returned from Turkey to Azerbaijan, one can imagine.
In this way, Erdogan among the military in Azerbaijan has, in fact, his own foreign - pro-Turkish - agents of influence on the change in the independence and self-determination of Azerbaijan itself... At the same time, this influence of Turkey and of the most radical Islamist Erdogan in Azerbaijan continues to grow and strengthen.

That is why not everything that Aliyev says can really be believed! Aliyev may no longer completely control the situation in his country and completely depend on Erdogan.

[TermNachTer]

Looks like they looked shitty and planned even worse, if in a month of the offensive, with the concentration of everyone and means, the latest technology, even the minimum task was not completed and, as I understand it, it would not be completed.

[genisis]

Somehow they did not fully reflect Aliyev's speech for FoxNews. In the Azerbaijani press it looks like this

[TermNachTer]

Aliyev is "on a twine" - and I don't want to quarrel with mattress mats, and it's scary to yap at Erdogan))))

[genisis]

But this is generally a magical moment))

[Livonetc]

Tatiana, Hello!
Behind Aliyev there is history and traditions of both the country and the family.
He pursues the pragmatic interests of his country.
But Pashinyan is a muddy figure that jumped out of someone's snuff-box, most likely Anglo-Saxon.
There are previously signed agreements.
Aliyev declared his readiness to follow them.
It's up to Pashinyan.
We are waiting.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Livonetc

But Pashinyan is a muddy figure that jumped out of someone's snuff-box, most likely Anglo-Saxon.

Yes, Pashinyan is a pro-Western Anglo-Saxon indigenous US puppet. It is enough to look at the staff of his maydan government of Armenia.
Well, this is what it is - it already is. There is nowhere to go.

But how can Russia now - with all THIS Armenian issue in Azerbaijan - go on? This is a big and fundamental question!

[Alexander Kopychev]

But how can Russia now - with all THIS Armenian issue in Azerbaijan - go on?

Hello, Tatyana
There is no need to mention the infantilism of the Russian Foreign Ministry in the former republics, but something else makes us think: the current tragic events have fallen on the leadership of the Russian Federation. "Where necessary" we calculated any options for the development of the situation. So what? That's right ... everything is going according to plan ... Hence the absence of any sudden body movements ... And Erdogan is also not just the Sultan who has lost its shores ... And in the world's second largest (in number) embassy there is nothing but "concern." That's how it is all CYNIC, unfortunately.

[alexmach]

Aliyev has the same euphoria as Turchinov had when he announced the ATO in Ukraine in the Donbass and Luhansk regions in 2014

There was no euphoria there. Just got away from how before that, sorry, did it.

And now the tactics of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan are the same as those of the Armed Forces in advancing saboteurs into the territory of the DPR and LPR - i.e. the same "toad races" of the APU units on the front line

What she is, if not at all. The enemy is not the same, the theater of action is mountainous, the weapons and capabilities are not the same. It's all wrong and wrong. What does Turchynov have to do with the toad jumps, which, by the way, had already been invented in the second year of the war after the cessation of large-scale actions and the forceful "compulsion to peace" of the Ukrainian regime? A fairly successful large-scale offensive was immediately launched.

[Tatyana]

Alexander!
In terms of historical analogies, associations are different for all people in different countries!
And about this - from a philosophical and psychological point of view - it is very wisely said in one of the films. Namely.

DMB. Do you see a gopher? • 24 Feb. 2011 r.

In life, the one who said that "there is a gopher" was right!

[alexmach]

Tatyana, everyone is, of course, free to have those associations that come to his mind, but this liberty does not in any way make these associations true. The situation differs as for me literally in everything, and the result is likely to be different too.

[Tatyana]

Alexander! I'm just kidding.
You wrote me a comment, so I immediately remembered this film. A very good movie.

Quote: alexmach

The enemy is not the same, the theater of action is mountainous, the weapons and capabilities are not the same.

Definitely, the enemy is not the same, and the time and place of action are different! But between them there is a common feature that does not strike the eye, but it is already visible to a knowledgeable person.

Quote: alexmach

What does Turchynov have to do with the toad jumps, which, by the way, had already been invented in the second year of the war after the cessation of large-scale actions and the forceful "compulsion to peace" of the Ukrainian regime? A fairly successful large-scale offensive was immediately launched.

Nevertheless, Azerbaijan's "toad jumps" are already beginning to be seen in the reports of the battles on both sides. The battle conditions and tactics of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are changing. Moreover, Erdogan is worried about this even more than Aliyev, since the initiative with the liberation of Nagorno-Karabakh was more from Erdogan. And Erdogan Aliyev is in a hurry and in a hurry himself.

How will it end? Most likely, the Turks and Azerbaijanis will starve out the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh, as the Germans tried to take Leningrad during the blockade in the Second World War.

[alexmach]

You wrote me a comment, so I immediately remembered this film. A very good movie.

The film is good, I do not argue, I went to re-read my commentary. Really became like the characters from there.

And yet Azerbaijan's "toad jumps" are already beginning in the reports of the battles from both sides.

Well, I did not agree with this - the toad jumps were the attempts of Ukrainians who were unable or did not dare to fight at that time. Azerbaijan's actions look much more serious.

How will it end? Most likely, the Turks and Azerbaijanis will starve out the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh, as the Germans tried to take Leningrad during the blockade in the Second World War.

Yes, they will most likely try to cut and block. By the way, this is still similar to the actions of the Ukrainian army in 2014. But the Armenians have no one to provide the support that was provided to Donbass in 14. Well, as I already said, Azerbaijanis are much better prepared than Ukrovermacht at 14.

[Deniso]

All this is garbage, Azerbaijanis will try to advance to the maximum until snow falls in the mountains.

[TermNachTer]

Chegoy - for the last few days, they have not moved anywhere. Well, perhaps only "through Vienna"))))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: TermNachTER

Chegoy - for the last few days, they have not moved anywhere. Well, perhaps only "through Vienna"))))

They repulsed an attempt by the Armenians to move them away from the Lachin corridor, after which they themselves could not make a throw to Lachin - they retreated with losses

[TermNachTer]

Here - here, and I'm talking about the same - the front has stabilized, then winter, with all that it implies. The Armenians fulfilled their task, but Azerbaijan did not even reach the minimum.

[Krasnodar]

What did they do there? Allowed the enemy within the distance of artillery fire to the most important transport artery? If a new road is built during the winter and the Azerbaijanis allow it, then yes, consider that they got off cheap.

[Alena-Baku]

Do you even read before answering? After the armistice, Armenia was shelled by peaceful Azerbaijani cities.

[Cottager452]

Pot calls the kettle black...

[the finish]

What happened in the church in Shusha was either a mistake or was committed by the Armenian Armed Forces themselves in order to accuse Azerbaijan, President Ilham Aliyev said in an interview with Fox News.
“We are not attacking civilians. We are not attacking religious spaces, ”he stressed (from a drone, if anything, 2 times to one point).
This is in the same interview where he talks about the truce.
How to believe the words of this individual. he and the Barmaleev do not have Turkish special forces either. Do we believe?

[Deniso]

"Hans cooked an ear from a submarine"

[Cottager452]

Write in your native language - here are half of yours.

[Alena-Baku]

After the armistice, the Armenian terror. A Russian citizen was killed.
https://fb.watch/1l3qdxbk8W/

[Deniso]

An Azerbaijani with a Russian passport?

[Stock]

That is, if this is an Azerbaijani child, then ok? This is your whole essence !!!!

[Alena-Baku]

Mayakov Artur Vladimirov, judging by his full name, is a thoroughbred Azerbaijani.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: denis obuckov

An Azerbaijani with a Russian passport?

13 year old child - Mayakov Artur Vasilievich, 2007. Most likely, Russian by nationality - judging by the name

[Cottager452]

Yes, an old Russian surname.

[Krasnodar]

It doesn't matter who the child is by nationality, just here they were surprised that a citizen of the Russian Federation, and I write that, with a high degree of probability, also Russian

[the finish]

Military Observer, [25.10.20/15/03 XNUMX:XNUMX]
The footage is circulating on the network in which an Azerbaijani soldier shoots an Armenian soldier with a pistol in the head.
This video appeared at the disposal of our channel the day before, but for ethical reasons and in accordance with the channel's policy, we did not publish them.
#Karabakh
@new_militarycolumnist

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Thrifty

Ilham oglu, you have already agreed 2 times, once even in Moscow, but the words do not fit with the result - there is no ceasefire! Pickaxe all falls on Savka, the slaughter is underway, for the third time we take a fork and a plate into our hands to collect pasta from our ears? You, like your opponents, want the world like a hungry person to go to the toilet! !! We would like real peace, even for a while, would find the strength to cease fire, like you and the Armenians! !!

Are you okay, can you communicate at all, or is it too much for you, you definitely need a silly, senile pathos?
So they ceased fire and received from the Armenians tomorrow Scads shelling residential areas (close buildings) of Ganja (late at night, so that there were more victims), and from the territory of Armenia, in order to provoke the Azerbaijani Armed Forces to retaliate against installations located on the territory of Armenia and give a reason for the entry into the war of the CSTO (that is, Russia). Another meanness. As a result of the Armenian rocket fire, a dozen people were killed and dozens of crippled residents of Ganja. The resort town of Gabala, which is located hundreds of kilometers away, was also shelled. from Karabakh and the city of Siyazan, generally located in the north, very close to the border of the Russian Federation. This is that innocent pranks, don't you notice the "pampering" of the Armenians?

[Thrifty]

Scorpio 05 - each side has its own truth, but it is far from the truth, because you, like the Armenians, see only what you need to see now, so both sides do not stubbornly see the beam in their own eyes! And, I communicate normally, unlike you, without becoming personal, and without insults!

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Thrifty

Scorpio 05 - each side has its own truth, but it is far from the truth, because you, like the Armenians, see only what you need to see now, so both sides do not stubbornly see the beam in their own eyes! And, I communicate normally, unlike you, without becoming personal, and without insults!

Sorry for the harshness, in the heat so to speak

[nobody75]

Excuse me, I told you on the third day of the war that it will be so ... So all the questions for Sadykov ... Where is he by the way?
Sincerely

[Cottager452]

A worthy student of Goebbels.

[izGOI]

It is immediately clear that the thrifty "Ilham oglu" is the son of Ilham, and from Ilham, the son of Heydar, that is, Ilham, Heydar oglu. It's not fatal, but ugly.

[Thrifty]

izGOl-in the army, I learned from your fellow countrymen that the word oglu means son, and by the way, it can be used to older people as an expression of respect! For my part, I indicated that Ilham is the son of his father, but I agree, I did not indicate the name - Heydar. So I didn't want to offend anyone!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

Ilham oglu, you have already agreed 2 times, once even in Moscow, but the words do not fit with the result - there is no ceasefire!

You have to be completely honest. There are both sides shit ...spit on all these agreements.

[iouris]

Agree with Erdogan?

[Deniso]

After the BP began to fall, he immediately became cute. He knows that his cowardly army will not be able to advance a meter.

[Vadim237]

"After BP began to fall" - Well, two whole units were shot down in 25 days of war - brakes, Aliyev was already frightened

[Beringovsky]

Aha, in Aliyev's rhetoric there are notes of peacefulness? What does that mean? Are the bayraktars running out?
And what will happen then if the summer weather deteriorates?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Beringovsky

Aha, in Aliyev's rhetoric there are notes of peacefulness? What does that mean? Are the bayraktars running out?
And what will happen then if the summer weather deteriorates?

More Spikes are involved.

[voyaka uh]

The quality of the video image from the rocket through the optical cable is noticeably better than through the satellite communication of the kamikaze drone.

[Vadim237]

They lack color and clarity.

[Operator]

No la-la: where are low clouds visible in the footage, like in the Karabakh mountainous area (or on the South Korean coast), when any optics sees a fig? Winter has come - the Azerbaijanis have gone home (Aliyev requested an armistice).

This is not for you in the Palestinian desert area on cats to train with your naked "Spikes"

[icant007]

Quote: Operator

Winter has come - the Azerbaijanis have gone home (Aliyev requested an armistice).

According to Gismeteo in Stepanakert it is now 20 degrees)

[Operator]

Day or night? In Moscow yesterday it was also 15 degrees, and in the morning it was full of fog.

In any case, winter with fogs in the highlands is already close - ales kaput to Aliyev

[icant007]

Quote: Operator

In any case, winter with fogs in the highlands is already close - ales kaput to Aliyev

Well, of course you know better)

[nobody75]

Do you believe the shaitans! Because this is the main thing! Believe in the "half-hour liberation" of empty villages ... In the heroic capture of the "fortified area" in Hadrut ... In Aliyev, who considers himself Napoleon. I remember Bonaparte at the same time waging war and negotiations ... No, to say that the tsar was drunk, that this was the result of a binge, that such a thing could not be done. No, everyone said a cunning plan.
Sincerely

[Vadim237]

There is no winter there - don't write any crap especially about low clouds for Spikes and shock drones on it in general, put all of them low-flying in Karabakh, almost all air defense is knocked out and what remains will not affect the hostilities in any way.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Operator

No la-la: where are low clouds visible in the footage, like in the Karabakh mountainous area (or on the South Korean coast), when any optics sees a fig? Winter has come - the Azerbaijanis have gone home (Aliyev requested an armistice).

This is not for you in the Palestinian desert area on cats to train with your naked "Spikes"

Can you name a Russian complex superior to Spike? I am without sarcasm, full of attention

[Operator]

What is this for you - for organizing supplies to NK?

Supersonic ATGM "Whirlwind" in various modifications.

[Krasnodar]

Thank you!
This is for aviation - and Spike uses incl. infantry)).

[Operator]

Mountain peaks - a complete analogue of aviation

[Krasnodar]

And from there the Whirlwind? And there is supersonic munition control equipment adapted for the infantry?

[Operator]

"Whirlwind" hits where the laser designator shines - directed by the infantry from the top of the mountain or by an operator from a small UAV.

[Krasnodar]

There is little left - to make a beam device and a target designator for the infantry)),

[Operator]

600 m / s "Whirlwind" in comparison with 200 m / s "Spike" - is already beam

[Krasnodar]

Yes, no one disputes - comparing aviation systems and infantry is generally a topic ... well, such

[Operator]

We have for you a ground ATGM "Attack" with a speed of 550 m / s.

[Beringovsky]

I wanted to say that the conditions for the UAV will deteriorate greatly. It can even be radical. Imagine low dense clouds, and even in the mountains. Here, not just from eight, you won't see anything from a mile and a half. We'll have to fly directly over the mountains. The review, taking into account the relief, is very poor, turning to the target is a problem, it's not from 8 km to peel. Slow and clumsy target at that height. And it's much easier to shoot him down. If the Armenians manage to organize more or less serious opposition, observation posts, communications, etc. then they will probably have successes. They just need to work on it. In general, the effectiveness of drones in such conditions will greatly decrease. Maybe even very much, well, that's my opinion. We will see.
Spikes are good, but what about target designation, especially in the depth of defense? And the question is, what are your Spikes in the rain? Are they flying?
In any case, the defenders in the mountains will have the advantage.

[Deniso]

bobby was blown away ...

[Hypertension]

What is the use of this "peacefulness"? A truce is appointed - after a few minutes they again start each other out of everything that can be thrashed. In my opinion, Aliyev just wants to sound like a "good guy". A sort of humanist and military gentleman. Like: "Look, peace! I offered them, I offer and I will offer negotiations, but they do not want to - everyone is shooting and bombing."
Well these are politicians ... They say one thing, think another, and do the third. If the bayraktars are over, they still made their contribution - both moral and physical.

[Alena-Baku]

There can be no talk of a truce. Aggressor Armenia must withdraw its troops from the territory of Azerbaijan and also must pay the damage caused to Azerbaijan.

[Guards turn]

Moscow warned Baku about inconsistency of agricultural products with Russian requirements

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Guards turn

Moscow warned Baku about inconsistency of agricultural products with Russian requirements

Will become Turkish, in the extreme - Israeli

[Guards turn]

Hammers in the fields
Crayfish are sawing hay ...
Vralman with a duck on shares
Composes lies:

"From the dung heap thunder
Defeated a hundred pillboxes ...
Fritz on the Main knocked down with a feather
Three hundred planes!

On the fence and in the moat
Goose cooked toadstools ...
Hitler arrived on the Neva
To the parade on the tank!

Dead Hans from Totenkopf
Danced in a ravine.
Has surrounded seven hundred regiments
Goebbels on paper.

Hans brewed the ear
From a submarine ... "

And in Berlin nonsense
Writes summaries.

1942

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alena-Baku

There can be no talk of a truce. Aggressor Armenia must withdraw its troops from the territory of Azerbaijan and also must pay the damage caused to Azerbaijan.

Alena, the concessions must be mutual, otherwise this mess will never end. But the fact that Armenia should liberate the occupied Azerbaijani territories (I do not mean NKR), I think, is beyond doubt.

[Alena-Baku]

Without a doubt, all territories must be liberated. How do you explain the presence of soldiers of another state on your territory? The entire population of Gafan and Zengezur were Azerbaijanis and that Azerbaijan sent its troops to Armenia.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alena-Baku

Without a doubt, all territories must be liberated ....

The only thing that needs to be discussed is the security and status of the Lachin corridor. The decision on the status of the NKR could have been postponed until later, when "the passions are gone."

[Alena-Baku]

You cannot discuss something with the aggressor; after the withdrawal of troops, guarantees of the local population can be reached with Russia.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alena-Baku

You cannot discuss something with the aggressor; after the withdrawal of troops, guarantees of the local population can be reached with Russia.

Alena, my neighbors were from Karabakh, I know how they got there in the early 90s through Azerbaijan. The Lachin corridor is very important, otherwise there will be no peace. And neither you nor my neighbor Khachik need slogans about aggressors, you have nothing to share with him. This war has other stakeholders.

[Alena-Baku]

Your neighbor is a citizen of Azerbaijan and there are many Armenians like him, and among them there are those who are not afraid to say that they live better in Azerbaijan than in Armenia. I'm talking about Armenia with which it is impossible to agree peacefully and there is no way out.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alena-Baku

Your neighbor is a citizen of Azerbaijan ...

Already a citizen of Russia, he is a refugee from near Baku from somewhere in the aul, and I grew up in Armavir, there are many refugees from Karabakh, by the way, the local Armenians did not really like them. And I want to say more about the fact that neither me, nor you and any of the ordinary people need such wars, they do not bring us any benefits. As for me, all these Pashinyans, Putin's edrogan Aliyev trumps would have gathered somewhere, but at least they would have killed each other once they cannot agree, I would not cry. They lived like that under the USSR together, without any big conflicts, they were imprisoned for inciting ethnic hatred for a long time. And today even the churches are doing this.

[nobody75]

Does Russia need it? We actually came to see the dog talking, sorry, to the "war of the 21st century" ...
Sincerely

[Mountain shooter]

Ah yes well ... so the Lachin corridor was blocked or not ...? This is the key issue of this war. If the "road of life" is cut, the negotiations will proceed from a position of strength, but if they were thrown back, then not entirely. Especially if the drones have stopped flying. It doesn't matter for whatever reasons ...

[Deniso]

These "horsemen" have never been able to fight for more than two months in a row, And then it got colder. It's time to declare an armistice until May ...

[nobody75]

They threw it away ... That is, they did not go themselves ... The "Calling Storms" moved to the border with Kara-Babakh. Having cut the Lachin corridor, Azerbots will put themselves under attack from the flank ... And it will be like in "Kishka", in Donbas ... Go figure it out without half a liter - whose art has worked on them ...
As for the Azerbaijani reports, they all compose according to the same template: "The abandoned village of N was liberated. After the hoisting of the flag and Aliyev's speech, the village was abandoned." But you can hang a fridge magnet. As of today, it can be stated that the Azerbaijani group in the south continues to reel aimlessly in circles, having completely lost its penetrating power.
And people like Olena - Baku continue to sow the wind ... And time goes on - popcorn ends in an hourglass.
Sincerely

[tralflot1832]

They were not blocked, let alone thrown back to their original positions with heavy losses. The call for peace is needed to regroup the troops.

[Vadim237]

They can shoot this route every day from rocket artillery and cannon artillery - and the drones continue to fly and strike anywhere, they have not gone away and the supplies of these to Azerbaijan are going steadily, and Azerbaijan itself continues to produce them - and hope that they will end empty.

[nobody75]

Month fly and cause ... And the point? Azerbots not only do not have Guderians, but also Ribentropov ... There is only a Fuhrer - bald and mustachioed ...
Sincerely

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Ah yes well ... so the Lachin corridor was blocked or not ...? This is the key issue of this war. If the "road of life" is cut, the negotiations will proceed from a position of strength, but if they were thrown back, then not entirely. Especially if the drones have stopped flying. It doesn't matter for whatever reasons ...

If they are not occupied, they are being fired upon, incl. UAV.

[silverwolf88]

Aliyev is a much more advanced and competent politician than the Maidan revolutionary leaders of Armenia ... the World proposes being in a strong position (this is a gesture of a strong person), taking into account the fact that the situation was brought to a hot stage by the actions and harsh rhetoric of "brave Armenians" ...
you need to sit down and negotiate ... and not continue to pay with the lives of your citizens with an evacuation plan (in case of a crisis) to the western distance ...

[nobody75]

Excuse me, are you serious? Let's talk together ... Whom are the Azerbaijani troops killing? That's right - the "Karabakh people" are Pashinyan's political enemies. Will Pashinyan sign a peace treaty with concessions? Is he a political suicide? Of course not! Why should he? They do not "arrive" on the territory of Armenia. He will shout about the war in social networks to the end ... And on the territory of NKR, under the most favorable scenario for Aliyev, he will have to do dirty work ... And how will the neighboring states react to this? OSCE? UN?
Sincerely

[aszzz888]

We are ready to agree on a ceasefire today. But at the same time, Armenia, its prime minister must declare that they are committed to the principles developed jointly by the United States, Russia and France.

And in the first place he puts Merikatosia.

[maktub]

No wonder foreign ministers met with Pompeo

[DAQ]

Strange ...
He made similar statements earlier, but why exactly do these latter attract so much attention?
Maybe because he says it in the Western media?
In fact, he said nothing new.

[tralflot1832]

Nothing more than gaining time to regroup the troops. In this call, the stone flower does not come out.

[Baloo]

Agree with Britain or Erdogan?

[Scorpio05]

Quote: denis obuckov

These "horsemen" have never been able to fight for more than two months in a row, And then it got colder. It's time to declare an armistice until May ...

Why did you drag on your mournful song again? All your comments are about one and the same. Already change the record propagandist)

[Alexander Kopychev]

According to the official representative of the Armenian Defense Ministry Shushan Stepanyan, units of the armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh continue operations to detect and destroy Azerbaijani sabotage and reconnaissance groups.

Ah-ah-ah ... there it is cho-o-o ... Azerbaijan is just acting in small groups, and I think why are they "doing nothing?"

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Ah yes well ... so the Lachin corridor was blocked or not ...? This is the key issue of this war. If the "road of life" is cut, the negotiations will proceed from a position of strength, but if they were thrown back, then not entirely. Especially if the drones have stopped flying. It doesn't matter for whatever reasons ...

It is extremely difficult for the Azerbaijani Armed Forces to move towards Lachin and block the Lachin corridor under constant Armenian shelling from the territory of Armenia to which you cannot respond and suppress the fire, naturally because of the CSTO (Russia). And they wrote that the Armenian "warriors" are already hanging out the Russian tricolor at their firing points so that their Azerbaijani Armed Forces do not open fire on the Armenian Armed Forces in response.

[Oquzyurd]

In fact, in a fight, Azerbaijan fights with one hand, the other is held. How fair is this? Despite this, the Armenians get it in full, on all fronts.

[nobody75]

A bad dancer is always ... hands get in the way.
Sincerely

[Oquzyurd]

Apparently you do not know. If, according to the map, our districts of Zangilan and Gubatly in the south-west border with Armenia. We took these regions, the Armenians left these territories under pressure and retreated to Armenia. Now they are shelling our troops from there, and ours cannot fire answer them, since there is the flag of the Russian Federation and Armenia under the protection of the CSTO. Figuratively speaking, these Armenian warriors climbed between the legs of the Russian soldiers and from there shoot at ours. Now, looking at the map, answer yourself, who is a bad dancer? I don't expect objectivity, but still ...

[nobody75]

Why don't you wait? Am I not Armenian? I warned the first 10 days of your "Storm in a glass" that it will be so. War is a mean thing ...
Sincerely

[Oquzyurd]

Why don't you wait? This is usually the case, with rare exceptions.

[nobody75]

Forgive me, but do not you think that if you write about the war "Usually so", then something went wrong?
Sorry for the pun. As I already wrote, going to the border will not help answer the question "What to do?" Pashinyan will not go to peace, even if your troops cut out the entire "Karabakh clan". It only suits him.
With respect.

[Oquzyurd]

These are Pashinyan's problems, whether to agree to peace or not. Azerbaijan must and must restore its borders (in the south, it has already been restored with Iran)
“Your troops will cut out the entire“ Karabakh clan. ”Under the word“ Clan, ”if you mean whoever puts a mine on the roads, fires at our soldiers and peaceful towns and villages, then yes, they will either leave or die. peaceful population for us are our citizens and they will be treated as their citizens.

[nobody75]

By the "Karabakh Clan" I mean Sargsyan and his "team" - the clan that came to power in the "Wars of the Karabakh Franchise".

These are Pashinyan's problems

- I disagree, he attributed his economic problems to the war, and the failures at the front - to the "Karabakh people". Everyone for some reason thinks that defeat in the war will bury his government ... I don't think so.
Sincerely

[Zaurbek]

Until the forces come to an end, there will be no truce ....... while others will not receive unacceptable damage, they will not sit down for negotiations.


Such is life.

[Alien From]

With this game of cat and mouse, Azerbaijan turned out to be a cat ...... however .......

[seregatara1969]

Ready and sign it even sounds different!

[Old26]

Quote: Tatiana

And now the tactics of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan are the same as those of the Armed Forces in advancing saboteurs into the territory of the DPR and LPR - i.e. those same "toad races" of the APU units on the front line.

Explain to us, sir and wretched, what should be the tactics on such a theater of operations as Karabakh? Checkers sub-height and urya-urya? Unlike his opponent (Pashinyan), Aliyev pursues a balanced and understandable policy. Maximum program - FULL RELEASE territories adjacent to Azerbaijan. If this requires tactical moves such as a declaration of readiness to negotiate, everything is fine. And the promotion of saboteurs probably should go in columns of four and with banners unfolded ???

[OgnennyiKotik]

It is very convenient to argue on the globe without understanding the theater, what winter is in the mountains. Azerbaijan is waging the war extremely correctly, they seized the steppe regions, blocked the mountainous regions, cutting off communications, all this means that they are ready for negotiations. The strategic victory has already been won, then the question of the number of those killed.
Good map for understanding why battles are going where they are.

[Professor]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

It is very convenient to argue on the globe without understanding the theater, what winter is in the mountains.

Winter in the mountains is beneficial to those who are armed with modern weapons with thermal imagers, both on equipment (say, drones) and on the seeker of missiles and bombs.
Winter is good for those who do not have to deliver supplies along mountain roads of which one or two.
Winter is good for those who are stupidly better equipped and better prepared for warfare in winter.
To whom all of the above applies is obvious.

[nobody75]

Winter in the mountains is good for those who have a box of stewed meat, a box of condensed milk and Armenian Cognac
Sincerely

[Krasnodar]

A fairy tale, not a theater. For the defending side

[Fon elia]

Azerbaijan has faced the most cunning enemies in the world. Traitor storytellers. Column 5 for all states, wherever they live. With the pseudo slogan "we are the last support of Christianity."

[silverwolf88]

well, not the most smart-ass)))) there is no need to take away the palm from the small scattered people everywhere)

[Victorm]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: TermNachTER

But judging by the fact that Aliyev spoke about peace, it means that the generals explained to him that Operation Barbarossa had failed, there are no prospects, therefore it is necessary to negotiate.

The fact that the operation "Barbaros" in the pro-Turkish Azerbaijan failed is understandable for the hedgehog!
At the same time, it is natural that the tactics of waging war with the NKR by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces military from Turkey under the leadership of the General Staff of Azerbaijan in the current weather and local conditions CHANGE, but at the same time neither Aliyev nor Erdogan canceled their main - STRATEGIC - tasks.

Isn't it boring for you to carry this nonsense for so many days in a row? ... Ilham Aliyev will not share a single gram of his power with anyone, this is understandable for the hedgehog.
Operation Barbarossa such a goal could not be, since there are many constraining and unfavorable factors for Azerbaijan. And so, in principle, if there were no shackles of obligations and restrictions, we can clearly see that physically it was possible to take Armenia as a whole, alas, politically it is impossible too much pro-Armenian lobby and forces. Don't be it, even after the first strike on Ganja from the territory
Armenia, it was possible, in full accordance with international law, to raze at least the center of Yerevan to the ground, and at the moment to advance to the west, not to the north.

We must be aware of the fact that it is necessary not only during and correctly to start a war, but also to end it correctly and during it. Armenia, having caught the wind of anti-Turkish sentiments in Europe, and the United States still remember that Erdogan did not let himself eat and bought the S-400, in short, Armenia saddled this wind and God knows where all this will go.
It is necessary to proceed from the fact that there is a task NUMBER ONE - to throw Russia out of the Transcaucasus, and the current leadership of Armenia is the proponents of this decision of the West. At the same time, it is important for the West not only to completely deploy Armenia away from Russia, including the withdrawal of Russian troops from its territory, but also to oppose Azerbaijan to Russia in order to prevent Aliyev from balancing between the interests of the West, Russia and Iran, that is, to lock him in a corner. ... For this, fire is being systematically fired at the army and settlements of Azerbaijan from the territory of Armenia, which is now also advancing in parts to the north along the border of Azerbaijan with Armenia.
Not a personal aspect, but as I see it, at a certain moment everything will be done so that Russia would enter the conflict and strike at least a limited demonstrative strike on Azerbaijan, which will result in the automatic transition of Azerbaijan to the camp of Russia's opponents, as well as the possibility participation of Russian observers or peacekeepers in Karabakh, and the fact that the West will not allow Azerbaijan to take all of Karabakh is also understandable to the same hedgehog. By essentially becoming a party to the conflict, Russia will be excluded from this process. Ask HOW? But whatever, in Russia, the large Armenian diaspora and the fifth column of Western agents of influence are still strong - there are many options and the opponents of Russia have much more choice, while Russia maneuvers in a narrow corridor and is more and more driven into a corner.
The fact that at least the regions around the mountainous part of Karabakh will surrender to Azerbaijan is so clear, but the most interesting is whose forces will ensure the safety of the Armenian population of the mountainous part of Karabakh, who will become the very "peacekeepers", and in fact will deploy a group of troops, Iran, by the way, is also in flight. so who? - that's right, hedgehogs, these will be parts of NATO, well, maybe for the sake of decency, a platoon of Pakistanis will be attracted, whether there will be Turks, also most likely not.
Even more interesting is the moment of demarcation of the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia and "prevention of conflict" along it, that is, it will "need" to bring in a contingent of the same countries, and most likely NATO, and this is access to the border with Iran.
The fact that Russia is appointed guilty in Armenia no matter how much it helps Armenia and how the war ends is also understandable for the hedgehog, in all this confusion the most interesting thing is how and through what Armenian provocation they decide to give Russia a ride, but for now everything goes to that. If in the beginning Russia even wiped its nose from the West somewhere, now both Russia and, by the way, Turkey are gradually beginning to withdraw. And the tales about the fact that someone is distracted by the pandemic and the elections, I repeat, these are just tales - while we are texting in Armenia, the most numerous embassy is working around the clock, and in fact the US station is in the Transcaucasus, and they are unlikely to be wasting their bread there ... ...

I have already written and not because they say, being an Azeri, I just pathologically hate Armenia, but simply because Armenia has always betrayed, and IMHO it ALREADY betrayed Russia, and it is already carrying out the plans of the enemy of Russia and the further the closer its success. I repeat, Azerbaijan will be given the areas around the mountainous part of Karabakh anyway and they could have done it without leading to war and without provocations of Armenia to it, but blood is needed to rise above the situation and to confront Russia and Azerbaijan at some point.
An ideal combination, Georgia is essentially an enemy, will make Azerbaijan an enemy, and in Armenia Russia has already been designated guilty. The curtain.

This is just an option and my view of current events in terms of the situation for today. Obviously, I can be wrong, but when you write about the fact that Aliyev fell under Erdogan, essentially giving him his power, you are not simply mistaken, and you are engaged in disinformation and provocation.

[nobody75]

Excuse me, but on what targets will Russia deliver a limited blow? And what will happen to the "Noble Family" of the Aliyevs after this blow? Who will need it in the Kremlin?
Sincerely

[flicker]

Anyway, Azerbaijan will be given the areas around the mountainous part of Karabakh and could have done this without leading to war and without provocations of Armenia to it, but blood is needed,

Now, yes, they will. Indeed, the Armenians could not bring the situation to war.
Another thing is that all the leaders of Armenia, from Kocharyan to Pashinyan, are subordinate to the Armenian diaspora in the United States, and which is controlled by the special services of the same United States.
Why they removed Sargsyan and appointed Pashinyan is not entirely clear yet.
To confront Russia with Azerbaijan - yes, it was evident even from the reaction of many pro-Western Russian journalists. And the point is not even a collision with Azerbaijan, but the fact that something behind this clash should have been launched in a chain (it is possible to confront Russia with Islam: through this, spoil relations with Turkey, Iran, republics inside Russia, etc.)
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But nothing came of them.
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And yes, Aliyev did not go under Erdogan, you are absolutely right.

[Victorm]

Quote: Nasdaq

Strange ...
He made similar statements earlier, but why exactly do these latter attract so much attention?
Maybe because he says it in the Western media?
In fact, he said nothing new.

You are right precisely because you made these statements in the Western media, the struggle between Azerbaijan and Armenia unfolded there, everyone understands what the boss wants there, but everyone wants more carrots for themselves.

[Livonetc]

The local boss has already prepared, while a test, a whip for Azerbaijan.
The draft sanctions against Azerbaijan have already been submitted to the US Congress.

[Old Kaa]

Quote: Livonetc

Behind Aliyev there is history and traditions of both the country and the family.

But behind him also comes the glory of a man who cannot be trusted. Pashinyan, for all these shortcomings, always speaks the truth to his people. Even in times of failure, he is honest. It's worth a lot

[Cottager452]

Fortitude, courage, heroism - what else to say.

[flicker]

First of all, it is about the principles according to which Azerbaijan should get under its control first 5 regions adjacent to the unrecognized NKR, then two more regions.

Normal conditions.
And what are the Armenians waiting for, what are they hoping for? What can return the situation that existed on September 27?
So they can wait to lose Shusha, and then the conditions for peace will be different.
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