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While not particularly superior to the MiG-29K: China has ceased to publish data on the work on the carrier-based fighter J-31

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In China, any information about the work on the new generation J-31 fighter was completely classified. This is a carrier-based fighter, which is planned to equip the PLA Navy aircraft carriers, starting with Type003. These are aircraft carriers that will be built with a flat deck (no springboard).


The fact that no information about the implementation of the J-31 project has appeared in the Chinese press for a long time, gives rise to talking about new problems with this aircraft. After all, when the fifth generation J-20 fighter was being created in China, statements about "success in its development" constantly appeared in the press.

Recall that a few months ago, the Chinese media published materials that spoke of such a serious problem with the J-31 as the lack of suitable engines. In particular, it was pointed out that the available aircraft engines do not allow J-31 fighters to achieve acceptable performance in take-off and run distances.

Another problem that was initially advertised, and then they simply stopped talking about it in China - the low indicators of the ratio "combat radius - missile and bomb load." With a combat radius of about 1100 km without outboard fuel tanks, the maximum payload is about 5-6 tons. With outboard fuel tanks, the combat radius increases to 1,8-1,9 thousand km (theoretically), but at the same time the missile and bomb load is reduced by 40%, while the stealth parameters of the carrier-based fighter are reduced.

In this case, it should be noted that the Chinese J-31 is not yet particularly superior in its main characteristics to the Russian MiG-29K carrier-based fighter, which was developed more than 30 years ago. But the cost of the J-31 program is several times higher than the cost of the MiG-29K program, which belongs to the previous generation of deck aviation... The J-31 also had problems with maneuverability.

It is for this reason that in China at the moment they stopped openly covering data on the J-31 program.
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  1. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 25 October 2020 10: 29
    +2

    Exactly because of this reason
    yah?
    A bold statement based on assumptions.
  2. PSih2097
    PSih2097 25 October 2020 10: 37
    -9
    they have one problem - engines ... Everything else is at the world level.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 25 October 2020 11: 07
      12
      Quote: PSih2097
      they have one problem - engines ... Everything else is at the world level.


      Something like this ...
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 25 October 2020 11: 36
        -5
        Oh, how, Chinese phobes were drawn ... belay I have a question - whose smartphones do YOU ​​have? I have Finnish - like this:
        1. Dodikson
          Dodikson 25 October 2020 12: 58
          13
          but what have smarts to do with it? Th the Chinese designed them?
          they simply assemble them from ready-made components.
          I can say that Ford and BMW are Russian cars, since they are assembled in Russia
        2. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 25 October 2020 13: 18
          +6
          Quote: PSih2097
          I have Finnish - like this:

          Like, boasted? Finnishophile, like? wassat
          What does "China phobia" have to do with it? The dvigun problem is the main problem. What's the point of the rest if it stays on the ground?
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 25 October 2020 13: 36
            -4
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            Like, boasted? Finnishophile, like?

            no, it's just that almost all the electronics in the world are in southwest Asia (and this is 80% in China at least), and this is not Japan (in which only top / premium models are assembled) ...
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 25 October 2020 14: 19
              +7
              Quote: PSih2097
              it's just that almost all the electronics of the world in southwest asia are

              And what?
              They covered Huaiwei's breathing apparatus with processors and a kirdyk loomed for him ...
              What has it to do with the "China phobia" I never heard.
              Quote: PSih2097
              Oh, how Chinese phobes have drew ... I have a question - whose smartphones YOU have?
        3. Tuzik
          Tuzik 25 October 2020 13: 38
          +8
          design, development is something other than assembly and packaging, and technical processes for Chinese factories are not developed in China.
        4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 25 October 2020 22: 47
          +2
          Quote: PSih2097
          drew kitaphobes

          Kitaephiles immediately got embarrassed and clumsily tried to change the subject
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 25 October 2020 12: 15
      -3
      Did you fly yourself or did someone tell you? Are you like little children?
    3. ancient
      ancient 25 October 2020 12: 28
      12
      Quote: PSih2097
      they have one problem - engines

      They have a very high self-esteem (our " fellow - they take a rest and nervously smoke on the sidelines). wassat
      Declare the "combat capabilities" of the aircraft if the following characteristics are present - G empty - 17, Gmax.vzl - 500 and G fuel inside. - 28 ... "dream" about some 000-7 tons of bk. ??? and at the same time "have" also R. d. so. - 500 km? belay belay wassat fool
      And dreams to hang also PTB and .. "fly away" under 2000 km radius and still have a BC ...
      This is called in Russian - .. "bullshit" ... wassat
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 25 October 2020 13: 00
        -6
        I repeat - on the plane - a glider, avionics they have no problems, they have one problem - the SU (engine), it will take 5-10-15-20 years they will learn how to do the previous one rather than with us ... soldier
  3. ximkim
    ximkim 25 October 2020 10: 39
    0
    These are aircraft carriers that will be built with a flat deck (no springboard).
    Will the aircraft be vertical takeoff?
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 25 October 2020 10: 55
      +3
      no, with EM catapult and YSU.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 25 October 2020 10: 58
      0
      Khimkin - no, the planes will fall horizontally. ..and they won't take off at all. .No need. ..
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 25 October 2020 11: 20
        +3
        Quote: Thrifty
        Khimkin - no, the planes will fall horizontally. ..and they won't take off at all. .No need. ..

        because tanks on takeoff are the best air defense ... laughing
        1. novel66
          novel66 25 October 2020 11: 29
          0
          place the tank not in avik, I'm afraid it will be problematic
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 25 October 2020 11: 31
            +3
            so let scientists have a headache for antigrav, under Stalin they would have done it, but wait only they ask for money ...
            1. novel66
              novel66 25 October 2020 11: 32
              +7
              Ltd! flocks of flying tanks moving towards America is my old dream
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 25 October 2020 12: 25
                +5
                Quote: novel xnumx
                flocks of flying tanks

                And then the armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, Tigers, Typhoons and MTLB in the rearguard! good
              2. PSih2097
                PSih2097 25 October 2020 12: 40
                +1
                Quote: novel xnumx
                Ltd! flocks of flying tanks moving towards America is my old dream

                Well, after all, there are computer toys - so it will soon appear ...

                or this:
          2. Doliva63
            Doliva63 25 October 2020 20: 18
            0
            Quote: novel xnumx
            place the tank not in avik, I'm afraid it will be problematic

            It is enough to set the fire laughing
  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 25 October 2020 10: 52
    +7
    ..that the Chinese J-31 is not yet particularly superior in its main characteristics to the Russian MiG-29K carrier-based fighter, which was developed more than 30 years ago ...

    It is for this reason that the countries that are themselves capable of designing a modern aircraft on the fingers of one hand can be counted. There are even more countries - "conquerors of space" ...
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 25 October 2020 11: 18
      +3
      Quote: Doccor18
      It is for this reason that the countries that are themselves capable of designing a modern aircraft on the fingers of one hand can be counted.

      yes, the same Europe unites to create aircraft / tanks, excluding the Scandinavians
    2. novel66
      novel66 25 October 2020 11: 30
      +5
      I remember that even 9 pregnant women will not give birth in one month. creating an airplane is a long way
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 25 October 2020 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: Doccor18
      Иmmmenno

      someone's hands are shaking after Saturday ... laughing
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 25 October 2020 10: 56
    +6
    Now there will be Chinese people who will "prove", first of all, to themselves, that the Chinese are getting better in the world, and the Chinese do not show the new plane, because it is ahead of time - so by a couple of centuries - how revolutionary it is! Only now, if all Western production is withdrawn from China, then the economy of the Middle Kingdom will rush into the Stone Age with the speed of a locomotive! It is impossible for Russia to transfer to the Chinese ANY defense technologies and developments, even old ones, because all this will be directed against Russia! China is not even close to us, but due to circumstances, only a temporary companion. Until they feel they have real power. ...
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 25 October 2020 11: 02
    +8
    Nothing is as funny as materials about the next successes. And then our Su, all so old and backward, are thrown to the border with India laughing laughing laughing lol
    1. novel66
      novel66 25 October 2020 11: 31
      +1
      and, like, it's not a pity!
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 25 October 2020 11: 44
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        and, like, it's not a pity!

        a lot of money, if we buy something else, and there is even more population (competition for the army, as in our MGIMO / MGU for the budget or as in the RGVVDKU / VA MTO) ... laughing
  7. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 25 October 2020 11: 08
    +1
    In this case, it should be noted that the Chinese J-31 is not yet particularly superior in its main characteristics to the Russian MiG-29K carrier-based fighter, which was developed more than 30 years ago.


    A strange headline, like the thought expressed. The fact that the data on the J-31 ceased to be published is one question, but on the basis of what data, the author states and concludes that the J-31, which in development does not surpass the MiG-29K? On the basis of what? Are there performance characteristics, tests, or some kind of comparison of these two carrier-based fighters?
    1. ancient
      ancient 25 October 2020 12: 31
      +2
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      There are performance characteristics

      Only the declared ones ... by which to calculate the capabilities of this fighter ... it turns out ... overestimated many times ... wink
  8. The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 25 October 2020 12: 26
    +1
    With a combat radius of about 1100 km without outboard fuel tanks, the maximum payload is about 5-6 tons.


    And that's not enough for them? Harsh requirements.
    1. ancient
      ancient 25 October 2020 12: 59
      +6
      Quote: Eye of the Crying
      And that's not enough for them? Harsh requirements.

      Such requirements arise when ... when ... ". Soup .. ate" wassat
  9. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 25 October 2020 18: 28
    -1
    The main problem is that China does not have its own engine, normal for fighters of this class.
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 27 October 2020 19: 38
      0
      Again "shkolota" minus :) Boring and predictable
  10. Soko
    Soko 25 October 2020 19: 50
    15
    Nevertheless, China will sooner or later bring the engines to the parameters it needs. True, others by this time will go even further.