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"Two states - one people": Erdogan expressed satisfaction with the "liberation of the Azerbaijani land from occupation"

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"Two states - one people": Erdogan expressed satisfaction with the "liberation of the Azerbaijani land from occupation"

Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan "expressed satisfaction" with the offensive of the Azerbaijani army and the liberation of the territory of Karabakh "from occupation."


In the morning I had a telephone conversation with Aliyev. Now our Azerbaijani brothers are moving forward in the occupied lands, liberating them. We will continue to provide any support to Azerbaijan in the struggle for the liberation of the occupied territories, based on the principle of "two states - one people"

- said Erdogan, speaking in the city of Kayseri.

At the same time, he was outraged by the "behavior of France", which supports the "occupation of Azerbaijani lands."

Meanwhile, the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry announced the destruction of the Armenian Air Force combat aircraft by air defense forces.

In the afternoon of October 24, a combat aircraft of the Armenian Air Force was shot down by Azerbaijani air defense units in the Gubadli direction of the front.

- said in the message of the press service. At the same time, any data on the downed plane is not reported.

In turn, the Armenian military department denies the data of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense, calling them "outright lies."

Following the report on the downed plane, Baku announced the destroyed drone of the Armenian army, also without giving data on the type and brand of the drone.

On October 24, at 15:25 local time, Azerbaijani air defense units destroyed a drone that tried to fly in the direction of the Agderin region

- stated in the military department of Azerbaijan.

At the moment, no refutations have been received from Yerevan.

Against the backdrop of the ongoing fighting in Karabakh, a video appeared on the Internet allegedly transferring military equipment by Iran to the border with Azerbaijan. At the same time, a military analyst from Malta, Babak Tagway, reported on Iran's deployment along the border with Nagorno-Karabakh tanks T-72M1 and BMP-2. According to the journalist, the country is preparing to create a buffer zone in Nagorno-Karabakh.

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  1. deniso
    deniso 24 October 2020 15: 59
    +5
    Erdogan will be promoting himself to the last citizen of Azerbaijan. Aliev. It seems not. What is he thinking about? Does Azerbaijan want to make a second Ukraine from Azerbaijan? Or fit under Erdogan? And what does he give a bunch of people while he does not care? I understand Erdogan, he wants to firmly tie Azerbaijan to Turkey. He doesn't care about the outcome of the war. The main thing is that the war itself should be. Aliyev - I don't understand.
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      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 October 2020 16: 36
        12
        Quote: Gordei
        We'll have to get wet to see, it's impossible to sit out ..

        Please specify who you are going to kill?
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          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 24 October 2020 17: 28
            0
            Quote: Gordei
            What are you so worried about? Scary ..)))
            For starters, the special forces - Rospodrebnadzor (Onishchenko) and other structures ..

            Quote: Gordei
            And then, what did you think about and get scared ...

            What are you speaking about? What is this "stream of consciousness"? Please explain yourself more clearly.
            1. Gordei
              Gordei 24 October 2020 17: 39
              -1
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              What are you speaking about? What is this "stream of consciousness"? Please explain yourself more clearly.

              This is to Krasnodar and its Moebius with questions .. They all know hi
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 24 October 2020 19: 00
            +6
            Vidyukha was filed down at a thieves' meeting and has nothing to do with the Turks with the Azerbaijanis, but the meaning is clear. I do not think that it will come to repatriation, but the fact that Rospotrebnadzor already, like yesterday, discovered an excess of pesticides in Azerbaijani vegetables, it is. True, Onishchenko has no relation to this structure either, and these affairs are now run by a sly aunt with a hoarse voice, who is called Anna Yuryevna Popova.
          3. Abbot
            Abbot 24 October 2020 22: 04
            0
            One minute...
      2. Ganja
        Ganja 24 October 2020 16: 44
        -23 qualifying.
        It follows from your words that Russia has deliberately taken an unfair position for 30 long years. So then how does Pashinyan become a bastard? After all, he very slightly bent the already bent stick and Azerbaijan had to break it. If it is normal and accurate to argue the national interests of Russia, he has long demanded that this issue be resolved exactly according to the same scheme as the Soviet state decided at one time. Apparently the Armenians who are in power in Russia did not allow it. Well, as they say, it always comes time to answer for your mistakes. The only thing Moscow can do now is to force the Armenians to de-occupy Nagorno-Karabakh and ask, for example, Nazarbayev to send Kazakh peacekeepers there, while strictly keeping all possible Armenian terrorists and Natsiks, including the Armenian Apostolic Church (the main hotbed of all terrorist and ultranationalist ideologies of Armenians), in check. Otherwise, the national interests of Russia in the entire Caucasus are simply khan. No army and flotilla will help
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 08
        -8
        Quote: Gordei
        In vain, Erdogan spoke like this .. He has already climbed specifically into the territory of interests of Russia and our borders .. He has already climbed into Ukraine, etc.

        End up with your imperialism and jingoism patriotism
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 24 October 2020 17: 26
          14
          Quote: RUSS
          End up with your imperialism and jingoism patriotism

          Well, I don’t even notice that someone who spoke out had the spirit of imperialism. It seems Russia is not attacking anyone, and no one from the site supports this conflict. But the Sultan has not even imperialist, but imperial manners, when he openly says, "two states, one people", which already implies that there is one state, and that is Turkey.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 30
            -5
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Russia doesn't seem to attack anyone

            Turkey too.
            Quote: tihonmarine
            But the Sultan has not even imperialist, but imperial manners, when he openly says, "two states, one people"

            Russians and Ukrainians are one and the same people. This was stated by the President of Russia in the second part of the TASS project "Twenty Questions to Vladimir Putin."
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 16
              11
              Quote: RUSS
              Russians and Ukrainians are one and the same people. This was stated by the President of Russia in the second part of the TASS project "Twenty Questions to Vladimir Putin."

              Correctly yes , therefore, Russia needs to more actively resolve issues of lifting the Bandera occupation from Ukraine. I don’t understand why we are all trampled with concerns?
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 24 October 2020 18: 22
                -10 qualifying.
                Quote: Terenin
                therefore, Russia needs to more actively resolve issues of lifting the Bandera occupation from Ukraine

                Something has not grown together with Novorossiya, apparently something is wrong in Ukraine with the Bandera occupation, maybe they don't know about it?
                1. Terenin
                  Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 38
                  +4
                  Quote: RUSS
                  Something did not grow together with Novorossia,

                  Which country has not grown together?
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 24 October 2020 21: 00
                    +2
                    Quote: Terenin
                    Which country has not grown together?

                    The RF did not grow together. Or Novorosiya expanded and annexed to Russia? Or has the standard of living of residents of Novorosiya reached the standard of living of residents of the Russian Federation, well, at least Ukraine? Take an interest, the life of people in Novorosiya is sad. And there is no Novorosiya, there is the DPR and LPR.
                    1. Terenin
                      Terenin 25 October 2020 00: 08
                      +2
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      The RF did not grow together.

                      Yes, until it has grown together
                      Quote: RUSS
                      Apparently something is wrong in Ukraine with the Bandera occupation
              2. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 24 October 2020 18: 51
                +1
                The occupation in Ukraine is not Bandera, but American. Although these clowns are also used for this.
                1. lucul
                  lucul 24 October 2020 19: 01
                  0
                  The occupation in Ukraine is not Bandera, but American

                  Do not be ridiculous - it is enough to see who is in power there.
                2. Terenin
                  Terenin 24 October 2020 19: 02
                  +4
                  Quote: Herman 4223
                  The occupation in Ukraine is not Bandera, but American. Although these clowns are also used for this.

                  Let's not complicate things at this stage. I see marches all over Ukraine of radical Nazis-Bandera with their savage dreams.
                  1. Herman 4223
                    Herman 4223 24 October 2020 22: 45
                    0
                    I don't argue with that. Only they are an instrument of power, not power.
                  2. TermNachTer
                    TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 00
                    0
                    All over Ukraine?))) Several hundred paid idiots are not Ukraine. This year, on the day of the UPA, there were about 1000 people in Kueva, they were taken from all over the country. How many of them are ideological, and how many for money, even those who organized this circus do not know.
              3. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 24 October 2020 22: 58
                -1
                There is a military victory, and there is a political one. Uncle Vova is smart. He will annex Ukraine (not all, he does not need Zapukra) without war.
            2. Mitroha
              Mitroha 24 October 2020 19: 45
              0
              Quote: RUSS
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Russia doesn't seem to attack anyone

              Turkey too.

              Excuse me, what universe are you writing from?
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 24 October 2020 19: 49
                -11 qualifying.
                Quote: Mitroha
                Quote: RUSS
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Russia doesn't seem to attack anyone

                Turkey too.

                Excuse me, what universe are you writing from?

                Who did Turkey attack?
                1. Mitroha
                  Mitroha 24 October 2020 20: 36
                  +7
                  Syria doesn't count? Or is it not a country for you?
            3. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 25 October 2020 07: 38
              0
              Quote: RUSS
              Russians and Ukrainians are one and the same people.

              Once there were Russians, Little Russians and Belarusians as one people. And when they became Ukrainians, after uniting with the people of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire, then excuse me, but these are already two peoples.
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 24 October 2020 21: 23
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            But the Sultan has not even imperialist, but imperial manners, when he openly says, "two states, one people", which already implies that there is one state, and that is Turkey.

            Erdogan is the Fuhrer, and Turkey is sliding towards fascism .. a dangerous tendency, however, while our "strategists" support him in this.
            He obviously will not limit himself to Azerbaijan, here he also has the Crimean Tatars, and the Volga will be one people.
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          1. RUSS
            RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 50
            -5
            Quote: Gordei
            It's hard for you here without the "Fuhrer" ..
            Straight to tears I laughed .... Okay, Rusus I'm leaving, otherwise your libre here tensed seriously.

            All in a bunch))) the State Department, Lesha Navalny and the fifth convoy have also been forgotten))))
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 24 October 2020 18: 47
              -3
              Quote: RUSS

              All

              You do not let me forget .. So you smell like bulk lyoshey, and you smell like ...
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 26 October 2020 08: 06
                0
                Quote: 30 vis
                Quote: RUSS

                All

                You do not let me forget .. So you smell like bulk lyoshey, and you smell like ...

                Fragrant bulk leshik minus. Sniffed bulk and ahead!
            2. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 02
              -4
              Lesha Anal - certainly, without him in any way
            3. Alena-Baku
              Alena-Baku 25 October 2020 00: 04
              -1
              By the way, Anal supported just that Armenia.
        3. lucul
          lucul 24 October 2020 18: 59
          +4
          End up with your imperialism and jingoism patriotism

          Maybe you already have enough of pretending to be Russian? Murder will out....
        4. Clear
          Clear 24 October 2020 19: 18
          +3
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: Gordei
          In vain, Erdogan spoke like this .. He has already climbed specifically into the territory of interests of Russia and our borders .. He has already climbed into Ukraine, etc.

          End up with your imperialism and jingoism patriotism

          Well, some remarks am when at the very, on the avatar, the imperial flag.
        5. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 24 October 2020 20: 04
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: Gordei
          In vain, Erdogan spoke like this .. He has already climbed specifically into the territory of interests of Russia and our borders .. He has already climbed into Ukraine, etc.

          End up with your imperialism and jingoism patriotism

          And what is actually wrong? Turkey climbed into the Caucasus back in the 90s, actively supporting Chechen fighters and providing a transit corridor for bearded emissaries through Turkey and Georgia. It didn’t burn out there, now it is trampled in Azerbaijan and Ukraine. Try to refute this with arguments!
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Russia doesn't seem to attack anyone
          Turkey too
          Again by. If Turkey is in Libya under an agreement with the NTC Saraji, can you remind by whose invitation Turkey is in Syrian Idlib?
        6. Rubina
          Rubina 24 October 2020 23: 40
          0
          Meanwhile, the Gazprom tower in St. Petersburg was painted in the colors of the flag of Azerbaijan. Putin sent a message yesterday at a meeting of the Valdai Club, and the screamers-propagandists misunderstood it, so today Gazprom explained to them once again that it was time to stop pouring slop into Azerbaijan and why to stop it, because gas would go through the gas pipeline to Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey. And this will tie Azerbaijan to Russia and Turkey will tie it too. So its president understands Russia's interests well. This is the 21st century and the smart ones understand that "friendship with banks unites better than friendship with tanks" explained this to Armenia, offered autonomy for Karabakh with the return of 7 regions, and profitable economic projects. We did not penetrate, we got tanks.
      4. halpat
        halpat 24 October 2020 17: 08
        +7
        Quote: Gordei
        In vain, Erdogan spoke like this .. He has already climbed specifically into the territory of interests of Russia and our borders .. He has already climbed into Ukraine, etc.
        We'll have to get wet to see, it doesn't work out ... Eh Pashinyan the bastard brought his screams all the same the little sorose .. Russia before that. Sakashvilli and Pashinyan, one gang

        So I think that everything will end with a big, like the embassy, ​​an American military base in Armenia. Pashinyan will fulfill his destiny, and then ... well, maybe they will tear him up, but most likely he will join Mishiko and they will have an excellent duet ...
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      5. dorz
        dorz 24 October 2020 17: 39
        +4
        Quote: Gordei
        We'll have to get wet to see, it doesn't work out ... Eh Pashinyan the bastard brought his screams all the same the little sorose .. Russia before that. Sakashvilli and Pashinyan, one gang

        Russia cannot protect Russians in Ukraine, but will drown for Armenians in Karabakh? In general, Erdogan's ambitions are much further than Armenia → Caucasus, Central Asia, Tatarstan and there is no solution to the problem yet.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 22
          +4
          Quote: dorz
          Russia cannot defend Russians in Ukraine,

          Well, why is it, which of the Russians is fighting that Russia defends.
      6. RUSS
        RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 44
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: Gordei
        We'll have to get wet to see, it doesn't work out ... Eh Pashinyan the bastard brought his screams all the same the little sorose .. Russia before that. Sakashvilli and Pashinyan, one gang

        Here's an example of what TV does to a person.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 20
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: Gordei
          We'll have to get wet to see, it doesn't work out ... Eh Pashinyan the bastard brought his screams all the same the little sorose .. Russia before that. Sakashvilli and Pashinyan, one gang

          Here's an example of what TV does to a person.

          So, still look at the "box" winked
      7. 210ox
        210ox 24 October 2020 20: 19
        -2
        Whom to kill? All in a row? Putin seems to have already made up his mind and is not interfering. Are our interests at our borders? What are the interests of the gas and oil near the Kremlin there?
      8. Revolver
        Revolver 24 October 2020 21: 03
        0
        Quote: Gordei
        We'll have to wet see

        In the outhouse? wassat
    2. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 24 October 2020 16: 25
      +9
      Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan "expressed satisfaction" with the offensive of the Azerbaijani army and the liberation of the territory of Karabakh "from occupation."


      Isn't it too early to be wasted in satisfaction?

      Yes, and cost, adventurism can be expensive ...

      On the evening of 23.10.20/XNUMX/XNUMX, in Syria, Russia struck the illegal oil market in the Turkish occupation zone near Jarablus. From such markets, Syrian oil enters the territory of Turkey, and Erdogan's relatives are also involved in this "business" - the theft of natural resources of sovereign Syria.

      Presumably, cruise missiles were used (although there are claims that it was an air strike), possibly "Calibers" from the Black Sea Fleet ships in the Eastern Mediterranean, which caused great destruction and casualties - dozens of destroyed vehicles and other containers with crude oil and gasoline are reported, as well dozens of killed and wounded.

      Video:


      1. Terenin
        Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 25
        +6
        Quote: BDRM 667
        Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan "expressed satisfaction" with the offensive of the Azerbaijani army and the liberation of the territory of Karabakh "from occupation."


        Isn't it too early to be wasted in satisfaction?

        Yes, and cost, adventurism can be expensive ...

        On the evening of 23.10.20/XNUMX/XNUMX, in Syria, Russia struck the illegal oil market in the Turkish occupation zone near Jarablus. From such markets, Syrian oil enters the territory of Turkey, and Erdogan's relatives are also involved in this "business" - the theft of natural resources of sovereign Syria.

        Presumably, cruise missiles were used (although there are claims that it was an air strike), possibly "Calibers" from the Black Sea Fleet ships in the Eastern Mediterranean, which caused great destruction and casualties - dozens of destroyed vehicles and other containers with crude oil and gasoline are reported, as well dozens of killed and wounded.

        Video:



        How many times can you repeat, don't play with fire!
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 06
        +2
        I think that Erdogan was hurt for a long tongue over Crimea. Not Turkey, but Erdogan, because his son-in-law deals with stolen Syrian oil. Taking into account the cost of cars and tankers, I think Lyamov for 5 - 6 son-in-law "stuck".
    3. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 16: 29
      +6
      Erdogan will be promoting himself to the last citizen of Azerbaijan. Aliev. It seems not. What is he thinking about? Does Azerbaijan want to make a second Ukraine from Azerbaijan?

      So far, things are not going badly for Aliyev. If the Azeris seize / liberate Karabakh, they are unlikely to climb into Armenia. Armenia will also come to its senses for at least 10 years.
      Or to get under Erdogan tightly? And that he will put a lot of people at the same time he does not care?
      If he considers himself a Turk, then he does not see a problem in this. If the Azeri washed themselves in blood, he would have worried, but the Armenian losses did not bother him.
      I understand Erdogan, he wants to firmly tie Azerbaijan to Turkey. He doesn't care about the outcome of the war. The main thing is that the war itself should be. Aliyev - I don't understand

      Cheap Baku oil will not give a damn about losing to Azerbaijan. The war will end strong Azerbaijan help in shaking Iran and a thorn in Russia. Recognition of "Northern Cyprus". In general, for the Turks and the Transcaucasian Turks, including this victory will be very beneficial.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 24 October 2020 17: 13
        +2
        If they seize them, Armenia will arrange partisanship for another 50 years there.
        1. Revival
          Revival 24 October 2020 21: 05
          +3
          There will be no special guerrilla warfare, an effective guerrilla war requires a loyal population
        2. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 07
          +1
          Quite possible. The terrain is suitable for partisanship, the Armenians - the locals know it, they don't even need maps. The base is nearby - 30 - 40 km.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 48
        -20 qualifying.
        Quote: Pavlos Melas
        So far, things are not going badly for Aliyev.

        I hope Aliyev will press down the separatists in Karabakh, and the flag of Azerbaijan will fly over Khankandi!
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 26 October 2020 01: 35
          0
          It looks like the Turks hacked this comrade)
      3. Revolver
        Revolver 24 October 2020 21: 13
        +4
        Quote: Pavlos Melas
        Recognition of "Northern Cyprus"

        Those. Turks in Cyprus have the right to self-determination, while Armenians in Karabakh do not. Accordingly, the sovereignty of Azerbaijan is a sacred cause, and the sovereignty of Cyprus does not care. Haim, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties.
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 21: 50
          -3
          [quote] Turks in Cyprus have the right to self-determination, but Armenians in Karabakh do not. [/ quote].
          Please, in more detail about the "exclusivity" of the Turks and not the exclusivity of the Armenians.
          [quote] Chaim, [/ quote]
          Chobanzade,
          [quote] you [/ quote] I did not drink on the brudenshaft with you, so do not poke,
          [quote] either take off the cross, or put on your panties. [/ quote]
          Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 24 October 2020 21: 55
            +3
            "Haim, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties" - This is not an appeal to you, but a quote from a bearded, still Soviet, if not pre-Soviet, anecdote. I do not give the full text, if you are interested, google it, you will find it. And this quote is addressed to Erdogan.
            And further. I ask you not to poke, you and I did not drink at broodershaft, and I personally do not intend to.
            1. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 22: 07
              +1
              Quote: Nagan
              "Haim, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties" - This is not an appeal to you, but a quote from a bearded, still Soviet, if not pre-Soviet, anecdote. I do not give the full text, if you are interested, google it, you will find it. And this quote is addressed to Erdogan.
              And further. I ask you not to poke, you and I did not drink at broodershaft, and I personally do not intend to.

              Sorry I misunderstood, but Ertogan thinks so. hi
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 24 October 2020 22: 24
                0
                No problem ;-)
                hi drinks
    4. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 24 October 2020 16: 41
      +6
      There is no logic at all in Erdogan's actions. Having two conflicts in Syria and Libya, strain with Greece, climbs into the third. At a meeting with Banderoprez Zenelokh, he speaks of Turkey's support for Banderland in Crimea. Along the way. uncle "went off the rails".
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 24 October 2020 17: 40
        +4
        Quote: TermNachTER
        At a meeting with Banderoprez Zenelokh, he speaks of Turkey's support for Banderland in Crimea. Along the way. uncle "went off the rails".

        A strong ally is needed and, moreover, a frostbitten one. If Azerbaijan has 10 million "people", then in Ukraine 35 million, and all on the border with Russia. And the total amount is 128 million, so everything is done without "coils". But first of all, this alliance can be expected in Syria, Iraq and also other former Turkic republics of the USSR.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 24 October 2020 19: 09
          +3
          35 million in Ukraine? Have you counted even those who have not yet been born?)))) It's good if there are 30 million permanent residents. Do you think a lot of Ukrainians will go to war against Russia? Well, except that a few thousand especially stubborn Banderlog. And those who are very sensitive to the safety of their skins. So, if the benefits don't match the risk, they'll go to Poland to wash the toilets. Ordinary people are tired of this deceitful, thieving, corrupt government that drove the people into poverty. This is so, in short - in a nutshell
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 25 October 2020 07: 44
            0
            Quote: TermNachTER
            Do you think a lot of Ukrainians will go to war against Russia?

            Well, if they are fighting against their own people in Donbass, they will also fight against Russia. The old are no longer against anyone they cannot and do not want to fight, but in 20 years they will not be left, and those who were born after 1991 and now have children, they will go to fight for "great America" ​​and "great speech of the world."
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 25 October 2020 09: 29
              0
              Will there be Banderland in 20 years? even Kuevo political scientists admit that the process of collapse may begin in the near future ..
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              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 25 October 2020 19: 26
                0
                Quote: TermNachTER
                Will there be Banderland in 20 years?
                Ukraine will not exist, but Banderland will remain.
                1. TermNachTer
                  TermNachTer 25 October 2020 19: 39
                  0
                  Perhaps, but it will already be a "headache" for someone else.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 24 October 2020 21: 27
          -1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: TermNachTER
          At a meeting with Banderoprez Zenelokh, he speaks of Turkey's support for Banderland in Crimea. Along the way. uncle "went off the rails".

          A strong ally is needed and, moreover, a frostbitten one. If Azerbaijan has 10 million "people", then in Ukraine 35 million, and all on the border with Russia. And the total amount is 128 million, so everything is done without "coils". But first of all, this alliance can be expected in Syria, Iraq and also other former Turkic republics of the USSR.

          In this situation, we slowly begin to list the states that are loyal to Ankara, self-sufficient in military and economic terms, which are surrounded by Turkey. There is none of them. Ankara ruined relations with everyone. Georgia and Ukraine do not count as in all respects, they are under the suction of the Americans, and there is no direct contact between the borders of Azerbaijan and Turkey. As for Azerbaijan, we look at the map - it is located between the Russian Federation and Iran, of which, no country is interested in strengthening Turkey on its border, and therefore a good cup of tea between Moscow and Tehran can turn Baku into an enclave with the creation of problems and Including the Caspian, leaving a window on the border with Georgia for communication with the world, which will obviously not be enough for the economic activity of Baku, which will drag along the dissatisfaction of 10 million people with Aliyev's policy. So far, the situation is developing as it is allowed to develop, since the pro-American Pashinyan does not very much correspond to the interests of both Moscow and Tehran and his defeat in Karabakh means the end of his career, but at the same time, all of Karabakh will not be given to Aliyev, it’s not for Senka a hat.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 24 October 2020 21: 34
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            slowly we begin to list loyal to Ankara,

            Loyal countries: Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Qatar, England, Algeria, Tunisia, partially USA, Germany and Italy are friendly.
            Opponents: France, Saudis, Egypt, Syria, Armenia, Iran.
            The rest are neutrality with a + or - sign
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 24 October 2020 21: 48
              0
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              Loyal countries: Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Qatar, England, Algeria, Tunisia, partially USA, Germany and Italy are friendly.

              You misunderstood my idea.
              slowly begin to list loyal Ankara, militarily and economically self-sufficient states surrounded by Turkey.
              I will repeat the question in a slightly different way - how many, even from the countries you listed, has a land border with Turkey?
              There is none of them. Ankara ruined relations with everyone.
            2. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 24 October 2020 22: 47
              0
              Ukraine is a territory controlled by the United States. Tomorrow a command from the Washington Reich Chancellery will arrive and the Banderlands will become the worst enemy. Algeria, Qatar, Tunisia are geopolitical giants, with a powerful economy, science and army))) they will certainly help the Turks, if something happens.
      2. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 22: 34
        +1
        Quote: TermNachTER
        There is no logic at all in Erdogan's actions. Having two conflicts in Syria and Libya, strain with Greece, climbs into the third. At a meeting with Banderoprez Zenelokh, he speaks of Turkey's support for Banderland in Crimea. Along the way. uncle "went off the rails".

        Ertogan fancies himself a great schemer. Having conflicts in Syria and Libya, he says I oppose Russia. Butting with Greece hints that NATO is falling apart. His bet is on playing on several boards to snatch a victory or to conclude a "worthy" draw somewhere and somewhere to snatch something. So he's doing well with the coils.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 24 October 2020 22: 52
          0
          Turkey is only de jure in NATO. "De facto" it has been pursuing its policy for a long time, which is not exactly at odds with the official position of Brussels, but even directly contradicts it. So, Erdogan's influence on the situation in NATO is approximately like "reducing the number of penguins in Antarctica."
    5. MTN
      MTN 24 October 2020 16: 48
      0
      Quote: denis obuckov
      I understand Erdogan, he wants to firmly tie Azerbaijan to Turkey. He doesn't care about the outcome of the war.

      That which is already tied by brotherly bonds, while at the same time it is not necessary to strangle the dead. Turkey showed that it is near. These are the kind of friends and brothers. Show me who also protects Armenia? Their support is enough for us. He does not advertise, but tells everyone that Azerbaijan is not alone. Why is everything so crooked and askew in you, someone is under cancer, and someone is not close to someone? No way?
      1. Dimon71
        Dimon71 24 October 2020 18: 59
        +1
        Of course not. IN POLITICS THERE ARE NO FRIENDS !!!!
      2. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 24 October 2020 21: 19
        0
        Merging is a matter of time. This is Erdogan's true goals. Maybe it will even turn out to be a blessing for Azerbaijan, or maybe separatism ... Your ways are inscrutable ...
    6. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 24 October 2020 18: 49
      0
      Quote: denis obuckov
      Erdogan will promote himself to the last citizen of Azerbaijan

      Erdogan participates in the database at the CSTO site, NATO's southern flank.
      Quote: denis obuckov
      Does Azerbaijan want to make a second Ukraine from Azerbaijan? AND
      Maybe NATO wants to make a "second Ukraine" out of this war, what do you want ?? The President said that both countries are partners, we will now watch how with the help of NATO they kill a Russian ally
    7. Artavazdych
      Artavazdych 24 October 2020 21: 05
      0
      Azeri troops are no longer subordinate to Aliyev. Directly to Ankara
    8. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 24 October 2020 23: 47
      -3
      And you don't need ... the main thing is that we understand.
    9. Lelek
      Lelek 25 October 2020 12: 38
      0
      Quote: denis obuckov
      Does Azerbaijan want to make a second Ukraine from Azerbaijan?

      hi
      Why not? That the former Ukraine, led by Hetman Ze, that Azerbaijan, led by Nuncies Aliyev, themselves stubbornly climb into the Turkish noose, and Erdogan can only play along with their pride and desire to remain "watchers" in their territories. Well, Erdogan himself is a weather vane for the West, but for us - "... and not a friend, more an enemy ...".
  2. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 24 October 2020 16: 03
    11
    All the same, the Ars, the Azerbaijanis will not be allowed to live there in peace, they would have divided this KaraBABakh in half and calmed down.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 24 October 2020 16: 26
      -9
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      In the afternoon of October 24, a combat aircraft of the Armenian Air Force was shot down by Azerbaijani air defense units in the Gubadli direction of the front.
      Aha, we would have fraternized. Together we would drink chacha. Shashlik-mashlik would be eaten. And all that? Forget it. Well, perhaps during the general exercises in NATO or Russia. And then there In NATO teachings, like an Azerbaijani, an Azeri cut the throat of a sleeping Armenian officer. Over the past 30 years, who has counted how much this promised land cost lives? I’m not talking about back in time. oh well. Who cares there.
      The most important question is where, or rather to where will Azerbaijan go? And second, especially in the context of this article. What kind of combat aircraft was shot down from the Armenians? Mark would like to know more. The era of high technologies allows us to know many things. And even the total number of the air forces of such countries as Armenia and Azerbaijan is almost certain.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 24 October 2020 17: 26
      -7
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      All the same, the Ars, the Azerbaijanis will not be allowed to live there in peace, they would have divided this KaraBABakh in half and calmed down.

      Well, show an example with Japan, a couple of boulders and a scanty population, and then say something about 20 percent of the territories of Azerbaijan
      1. Clear
        Clear 24 October 2020 20: 14
        +6
        Quote: Yeraz
        Quote: Yaro Polk
        All the same, the Ars, the Azerbaijanis will not be allowed to live there in peace, they would have divided this KaraBABakh in half and calmed down.

        Well, show an example with Japan, a couple of boulders and a scanty population, and then say something about 20 percent of the territories of Azerbaijan

        To be honest, we are fed up with everything with their appeals about what Russia should do.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 25 October 2020 02: 54
          -2
          Quote: Clear
          To be honest, we are fed up with everything with their appeals about what Russia should do.

          Well, users from Russia constantly tell us about divide equally.
          1. Clear
            Clear 25 October 2020 09: 22
            +3
            Quote: Yeraz
            Quote: Clear
            To be honest, we are fed up with everything with their appeals about what Russia should do.

            Well, users from Russia constantly tell us about divide equally.

            So straight from Russia, from the Old Square, from the 38th cabinet of the Presidential Administration ... and looks like Peskov ... winked
          2. Clear
            Clear 25 October 2020 09: 33
            +5
            Quote: Yeraz
            Quote: Clear
            To be honest, we are fed up with everything with their appeals about what Russia should do.

            Well, users from Russia constantly tell us about divide equally.

            By the way, what country are you from? When I answer you, I will write it with lowercase (small) letters.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 24 October 2020 23: 28
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        Quote: Yaro Polk
        All the same, the Ars, the Azerbaijanis will not be allowed to live there in peace, they would have divided this KaraBABakh in half and calmed down.

        Well, show an example with Japan, a couple of boulders and a scanty population, and then say something about 20 percent of the territories of Azerbaijan

        Back in the 50s, when, by the way, Azerbaijan was also part of the USSR, it was proposed to divide the disputed 4 islands according to the 2x2 formula (two of ours, two of them), but mattresses got into this business and whispered to the samurai to ask for all four, after which they understandably reasons were sent in three letters and the signing of the peace treaty was postponed indefinitely. He still lies in this box. So let the Japanese thank their mattress "friends". You would also need to listen to Ankara less, you see, you yourself will be able to agree on better terms than whispering "friends" from Ankara.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 25 October 2020 02: 56
          -2
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          You would also need to listen to Ankara less, you see, you yourself will be able to agree on better terms than whispering "friends" from Ankara.

          with Ankara, this is for the Armenians. From the very beginning, the Armenians were offered a step-by-step solution. They do not agree and there is no need to nod at Turkey.
    3. Artavazdych
      Artavazdych 24 October 2020 21: 12
      0
      This moment has already been missed. Today, the tipping point has passed. One to one as in 1992-93
  3. deniso
    deniso 24 October 2020 16: 05
    11
    For three days, Azerbaijanis have been trying unsuccessfully to break through to the city of Mardakert. Losses of attackers in this direction range from 30 to 50 people per day, but each time the Azerbaijani military are forced to roll back to their original positions.
    The long-term efforts of the Karabakh army to fortify positions and the mountainous terrain are nullifying the technological advantage of the Azerbaijani army, which seemed so obvious to many analysts.
    The air defense of the Karabakh army is still strong, as a result of which the Azerbaijanis cannot disrupt either the control or the supply of their enemy, and are also deprived of the opportunity to more actively use the "large" aviation, which, however, is not so effective in the given terrain conditions.
    In addition, from 12 to 20 very expensive unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down by the Armenians and 2 or 3 planes and a helicopter. Lacking reconnaissance and fire support from the air, unable to effectively use artillery and armored vehicles, Azerbaijani troops naturally suffer serious losses during fruitless attacks.
    And already from September 28, from the areas occupied by the Turkish Armed Forces in northern Syria, reports began to come in about the death of local natives in battles on the side of the Azerbaijani army. According to some reports, there are already at least eighty deaths.
    If we assume that the Azerbaijani command prefers to send in the attack on the Armenian positions not so much regular servicemen as militants provided by Turkish private military companies, then the scale of losses of the Azerbaijani side may turn out to be at least twice as high.

    It is not surprising that reports are beginning to come in about the growth of discontent in Azerbaijani society and protest moods in the army, where not only soldiers, but also senior officers begin to openly say that the Turks dragged the country into the war for their own selfish interests.

    But the expected blitzkrieg obviously did not work out. The resignation of the Chief of the General Staff of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, which became known on October 1, is extremely indicative in this regard.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 October 2020 16: 08
      +4
      The main thing for the Armenians is to keep Lachin - otherwise it will be very difficult. Even in the presence of "still strong" air defense of the NKR JSC hi
      The attacks on Mardakert simply shackle the forces of the Armenians, like all attacks in the north, the main threat is from the south, opened the defense from there
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 16: 34
        +9
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The main thing for the Armenians is to keep Lachin - otherwise it will be very difficult. Even in the presence of "still strong" air defense of the NKR JSC hi
        The attacks on Mardakert simply shackle the forces of the Armenians, like all attacks in the north, the main threat is from the south, opened the defense from there

        Well, if they keep Lachin and can turn this opposition into a massacre, then kaput Azeri revenge. Moreover, if Armenia finds a legal pretext to recognize Karabakh as an independent state without consequences, then the Armenians will win the confrontation.
        1. MTN
          MTN 24 October 2020 16: 50
          -8
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          Moreover, if Armenia finds a legal pretext to recognize Karabakh as an independent state without consequences

          What kind of nonsense are you writing. Where is it seen that there are 2 identical countries in the world? They have already gained independence in Armenia ...... what else do you want ???????????
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 16: 56
            +7
            Quote: MTN
            Quote: Pavlos Melas
            Moreover, if Armenia finds a legal pretext to recognize Karabakh as an independent state without consequences

            What kind of nonsense are you writing. Where is it seen that there are 2 identical countries in the world? They have already gained independence in Armenia ...... what else do you want ???????????

            Well, then you are not saying nonsense, following your logic, the Turks already have one state, Turkey, so let them leave Cyprus. Azeri, after all, is also not just an Azeri, but a Turk Azeri, so you, following your logic, must go to Turkey. Also, following your logic, Turkey is crying about the Kosovar Albanians, too, well, somehow they have their own state of Albania.
            1. MTN
              MTN 24 October 2020 17: 39
              -4
              Quote: Pavlos Melas
              Well, then you are not saying nonsense, following your logic, the Turks already have one state, Turkey, so let them leave Cyprus.

              Well, what has Azerbaijan to do with it? This is how Russia itself strengthens Turkey. Not we.
              1. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 17: 47
                +5
                Quote: MTN
                Quote: Pavlos Melas
                Well, then you are not saying nonsense, following your logic, the Turks already have one state, Turkey, so let them leave Cyprus.

                Well, what has Azerbaijan to do with it? This is how Russia itself strengthens Turkey. Not we.

                Azerbaijan has nothing to do with it, I spoke about your logic
                Where is it seen to there were 2 identical countries in the world?
                After all, you wrote about this, so if the Armenians can somehow contrive and push through this proposal, then despite the loss of territories they will benefit. It is unlikely, of course, that they will succeed, but this is a thought torn out of the dialogue.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 24 October 2020 18: 02
              +1
              Quote: Pavlos Melas
              Also, following your logic, Turkey is crying about the Kosovar Albanians, too, well, there is nothing they have about their own state of Albania.

              There are Albanians in Kosovo and Albania, but there are two states, which means both Armenia and Karabakh can have their own states. As of September 4, 2020, 98 out of 193 UN member states, 22 out of 27 EU member states, 26 out of 30 NATO member states have recognized Kosovo. But Nagorno-Karabakh is recognized by Abkhazia, South Ossetia and the PMR, and nine states of the United States are also recognized at once: Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Maine, Louisiana, California, Georgia, Colorado, Hawaii and Michigan. The authorities of these states have repeatedly appealed to Washington with a demand to recognize Karabakh.
              Australia's largest state, New South Wales, recognizes Nagorno-Karabakh's legal right to self-determination.
          2. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 24 October 2020 19: 10
            +2
            Quote: MTN
            What kind of nonsense are you writing. Where is it seen that there are 2 identical countries in the world? They have already gained independence in Armenia ...... what else do you want ???????????

            Where. Where, but where! - from Erdogan's speech "We will continue to provide any support to Azerbaijan in the struggle for the liberation of the occupied territories, proceeding from the principle of" two states - one people "Still need to be explained ... where?
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 24 October 2020 17: 17
          -7
          In theory, yes, if they manage to inflict very large losses on Azerbaijan at their minimum, then certainly. The legal pretext is non-recognition of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, i.e. withdrawal of Russia from the game in the event of the transfer of the war to Armenian territory.
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 17: 51
            +2
            In theory, yes, if they manage to inflict very large losses on Azerbaijan at their minimum, then certainly. The legal pretext is non-recognition of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, i.e. withdrawal of Russia from the game in the event of the transfer of the war to Armenian territory.
            So I wrote without consequences, if Russia as a guarantor of security is excluded, then the consequences will be hi
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 24 October 2020 17: 58
              -5
              Well, since then ..?
              1. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 18: 07
                0
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Well, since then ..?
                As your fellow tribesman says, this is not a question for my salary laughing , but seriously don’t know. Agree on a truce, but as a condition, violation is equal to recognition.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 24 October 2020 18: 15
                  -1
                  That ... the violation still needs to be proven and in general ... Aliyev is not up to negotiations now - he squeezes the maximum out of the military operation
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        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 24 October 2020 17: 19
          +2
          Okay, next time I will definitely ask your permission to leave a comment laughing
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            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 24 October 2020 17: 46
              -6
              Drive off delirium tremens from yourself - it will not bring you to good yes Not only have they started to correspond with her on the Internet, and you are negotiating with this phenomenon to conclude legal relations on a contractual basis. laughing
    2. Stock
      Stock 24 October 2020 16: 14
      +1
      You either have false information or you are conditional in the world (Garik Martirosyan). Too pro-Armenian position, you have to be objective. In the northern direction, Azerbaijan is carrying out operations to draw together the reserves of Armenia. Of course, they bear losses, but they are far from the ones you are talking about.
      1. Dimon71
        Dimon71 24 October 2020 19: 08
        0
        It is precisely that in the north of Az the army suffers colossal losses. The front is stretched out. Azerbaijan is pulling all its reserves to the south. Also trying to otakatat RED BAZAR !!!
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 24 October 2020 17: 28
      -6
      Quote: denis obuckov
      It is not surprising that reports are beginning to come in about the growth of discontent in Azerbaijani society and protest moods in the army, where not only soldiers, but also senior officers begin to openly say that the Turks dragged the country into the war for their own selfish interests.

      why are you armenchik ???? here opened the eyes of the representatives of the azeob-va. we are rushing into battle, but it turns out ...
    4. Homeland
      Homeland 24 October 2020 20: 38
      0
      Please do not write about "discontent in Azerbaijani society and protest moods in the Azerbaijani army." There is no need to spread misinformation. The entire population of Azerbaijan is for a military solution to the conflict to a victorious end.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 15
        0
        When the population has empty refrigerators, the desire to fight will drastically diminish. Azerbaijan has already adjusted its budget towards cuts in the summer, even before the start of the war. Now it looks like we will have to correct it again, because the blitz krieg has failed. You can, of course, ask the IMF for a loan, but this is unlikely.
    5. Revolver
      Revolver 24 October 2020 21: 22
      0
      I sincerely wish failure to both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Let them miss more often, hit less often, kill less, maim, and destroy. Maybe, as soon as they run out of ammunition, they will decide that it is better to come to an agreement. Although, in the current situation, I do not see an agreement that could somehow suit both sides.
      :-(
    6. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 24 October 2020 23: 50
      -2
      Ara no)) I swear there is no discontent with Shushan) ... and by the way, from the fact that they will believe you here, it is not cold and warm)
  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc 24 October 2020 16: 15
    +5
    A wedding in a ruined temple in Shusha.
    About a week ago.
    After the wedding, the husband went to the front.

    From the resource Colonel Kassad.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 October 2020 16: 23
      -4
      Abstracting from the modern form and photojournalist - in the style of "Game of Thrones"
    2. Alena-Baku
      Alena-Baku 24 October 2020 16: 24
      -6
      Cheap window dressing.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 24 October 2020 16: 31
        +8
        Just people.
        This has happened at all times.
        Do you deny the Armenians humanity?
        Sorry, I forgot your name.
        hi
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 24 October 2020 16: 40
          -7
          “October 24 this year. The Azerbaijani authorities notified the Embassy that in the hospital of the city of Ganja from the received as a result of the rocket attack on October 17 this year. Russian citizen Artur Vasilievich Mayakov, born in 2007, died from injuries. The embassy is in constant contact with representatives of the Executive Power of the city of Ganja and the relatives of the deceased, provides them with the necessary assistance.

          A.V. Mayakov was buried on October 24 this year. in the city of Ganja of the Republic of Azerbaijan. The ceremony was attended by the Deputy Head of the Russian Community of Ganja IV Kalashnikova and the rector of the Alexander Nevsky Church in Ganja, Father Bartholomew.

          In connection with this mournful event, the Embassy expresses deep condolences to the family and friends of the deceased, ”the message says.
          .................................................. .................................................. ....................
          If you decide to talk and insert about humanity, start ...
          https://haqqin.az/news/192336
          1. Livonetc
            Livonetc 24 October 2020 16: 47
            +2
            You and your opponents have blood on your hands.
            And you are ready to continue.
            It is beyond my power to stop you.
            Do what you think is right.
            hi
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 24 October 2020 16: 54
              +1
              "You and your opponents have blood on your hands." But for some reason on your posts they are inserted by cute victims, unilaterally.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 24 October 2020 17: 32
                -3
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                But for some reason on your posts they are inserted by cute victims, unilaterally.

                yeah, a tricky move like)
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 24 October 2020 18: 07
            +1
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            If you decide to talk and insert about humanity, start ...

            The war never, and on any side, had a human face.
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        3. Alena-Baku
          Alena-Baku 24 October 2020 20: 17
          -2
          and that the first Christians had only one church? All girls dream of a prince and a luxurious wedding, I will not say anything about the 19th century dress on the bride. Poor girl, she now probably dreams of living in secular Azerbaijan. In war, all methods are good, but using the cross in order to give the color of religiosity is the rottenness of the Armenian occupants.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 24 October 2020 18: 57
        -7
        Quote: Alena-Baku
        Cheap window dressing.

        This is definitely part of Prapaganda.
      3. Dimon71
        Dimon71 24 October 2020 19: 10
        +2
        Non-business window dressing on Azerbaijani telegram channel War Top
    3. MTN
      MTN 24 October 2020 16: 51
      -2
      Quote: Livonetc
      A wedding in a ruined temple in Shusha.

      The Armenians love the show. Direct coronation of Louis)
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      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 24 October 2020 17: 08
        0
        Don't you want to say anything to these barbarians?




      2. Hwostatij
        Hwostatij 24 October 2020 17: 31
        0
        Is it straight to destroy history?
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 33
        -2
        Quote: Gordei
        History wants to destroy Orthodoxy

        Armenians are not Orthodox, if anything.
    5. Terenin
      Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 28
      +2
      Quote: Livonetc
      A wedding in a ruined temple in Shusha.
      About a week ago.
      After the wedding, the husband went to the front.

      From the resource Colonel Kassad.

      And, their weddings are not like in Russia ... do they walk for three days? And then they get hungover for three days.
      1. Clear
        Clear 24 October 2020 19: 26
        +4
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: Livonetc
        A wedding in a ruined temple in Shusha.
        About a week ago.
        After the wedding, the husband went to the front.

        From the resource Colonel Kassad.

        And, their weddings are not like in Russia ... do they walk for three days? And then they get hungover for three days.

        Looks nice, only the war reporter doesn't add any sincerity.
        God bless the newlyweds - family well-being.
  5. Irek
    Irek 24 October 2020 16: 19
    -5
    Shiites and Sunites cannot be friends by definition; Perdogan simply benefits from this war.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 34
      -3
      Quote: Irek
      Shiites and Sunites cannot be friends by definition; Perdogan simply benefits from this war.

      They are friends as one ethnos - the Turks.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 18
        0
        Yeah, they are so friendly that they are ready to gnaw each other's throats. The whole friendship lies in the fact that Azerbaijan, at its own expense, "drags chestnuts out of the fire" for Erdogan.
        1. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice 25 October 2020 16: 49
          0
          Yeah, they are so friendly that they are ready to gnaw each other's throats.

          They cannot share Mohamed :)
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 24 October 2020 17: 37
      -4
      Quote: Irek
      Shiites and Sunites cannot be friends by definition; Perdogan simply benefits from this war.

      and if you google a little into your empty head, upload a new information that in Azerbaijan 40 percent are Sunnis, not all Azerbaijanis are Shiites fanatics, for example, Shiites, but life shows blood plays a big role. Well, of course, Erdogan is profitable, he has 10 million. country of 1 million refugees and he lost 20 percent, but not us)))) Well, you are the type of course)
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 24
        0
        Yeah, and besides, among the Shiites and among the Sunnis, there are various directions, which sometimes go very far from the official version. Ismailis, Wahhabis, etc. It is you today and for this particular Sunni - good, and tomorrow for another - munafik
        1. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice 25 October 2020 16: 59
          0
          Yeah, and besides, among the Shiites and among the Sunnis, there are various directions, which sometimes go very far from the official version. Ismailis, Wahhabis, etc.

          Most of the world's population does not know Shiites, Sunnis, etc. But these forelocks tear each other :) What a dark people!
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 25 October 2020 17: 14
            +1
            Most of the population don't know shit at all, beyond their noses. But these - Ismailis, Houthis, Alawites, Wahhabis, perfectly distinguish where their own and where are strangers.
  6. Greenwood
    Greenwood 24 October 2020 16: 20
    +8
    Russia officially refused to send Armenia troops to Nagorno-Karabakh
    The Russian military will not take part in the armed conflict on the territory of Karabakh. This information was officially announced by the First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma for Defense Andrei Krasov, thereby completely refuting the statement of the First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Eurasian Integration and Relations with Compatriots Konstantin Zatulin, who announced the landing of Russian troops on the territory of the NKR.

    More details at: https: // avia. pro / news / rossiya-oficialno-otkazala-armenii-v-vvedenii-voysk-v-nagornyy-karabah? utm_source = yxnews & utm_medium = desktop

    On the whole, expected.
    1. Ravermeister
      Ravermeister 24 October 2020 16: 24
      +6
      I warmly support! fellow
    2. Trojan_wolf
      Trojan_wolf 24 October 2020 16: 30
      +3
      Common sense prevailed. Amen.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 24 October 2020 16: 49
      +5
      And why does Russia need it? To kill your soldiers for Pashinyan? Russia can help in another way - by supplying equipment, weapons, intelligence data. Russia is interested in dragging out the conflict. Firstly, the departure of Pashinyan and the arrival of a pro-Russian politician in his place. The mutual exhaustion of Armenia and Azerbaijan will make them more manageable later (for Moscow). The more tanks and aircraft are burned now, the more they will have to buy from Moscow tomorrow.
      1. opuonmed
        opuonmed 24 October 2020 17: 15
        +1
        Quote: TermNachTER
        And why does Russia need it? To kill your soldiers for Pashinyan? Russia can help in another way - by supplying equipment, weapons, intelligence data. Russia is interested in dragging out the conflict. Firstly, the departure of Pashinyan and the arrival of a pro-Russian politician in his place. The mutual exhaustion of Armenia and Azerbaijan will make them more manageable later (for Moscow). The more tanks and aircraft are burned now, the more they will have to buy from Moscow tomorrow.
        throwing them to enemies, a clear position for more controllability against Moscow time) although you may be right)
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 24 October 2020 19: 34
          0
          You judge by the yardstick of an ordinary (normal) person. Politicians have different views
      2. Homeland
        Homeland 24 October 2020 20: 43
        +1
        And where did you get that if Russia helps Armenia, then Azerbaijan will run to buy tanks from Russia ???
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 24 October 2020 21: 02
          0
          And you are proposing to a country that has just emerged from the war to switch to another supplier of military equipment, and not only armored vehicles. Can you imagine the depth and breadth of the problem? Not to mention the fact that Azerbaijan had a problem with a budget deficit in the summer, before the start of the conflict. I can imagine a "hole" in the budget after the end of the war.
  7. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 24 October 2020 16: 22
    +3
    Actually, if you look at the map, you can see that Armenia and the disputed territories divide Azerbaijan and Turkey. And oh, how they want to have a common border between the Turks ...
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 35
      -7
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      ... And oh, how they want to have a common border between the Turks ...

      What for?
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 17: 59
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Sancho_SP
        ... And oh, how they want to have a common border between the Turks ...

        What for?

        So that the message is not through third countries, but directly. If they think about it, Turan will build everything more conveniently. hi
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 24 October 2020 18: 11
          -5
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: Sancho_SP
          ... And oh, how they want to have a common border between the Turks ...

          What for?

          So that the message is not through third countries, but directly. If they think about it, Turan will build everything more conveniently. hi

          Is this your speculation? Or do you know what we do not know? By the way, about Turan, before speaking, clarify for yourself what Turan is, maybe you mean the Turkic Khaganate?
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 18: 16
            +3
            Is this your speculation?
            So that the message is not through third countries, but directly.
            I think it's obvious why pay Georgia and Iran when you can get by.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 24 October 2020 18: 27
              -3
              Quote: Pavlos Melas
              Is this your speculation?
              So that the message is not through third countries, but directly.
              I think it's obvious why pay Georgia and Iran when you can get by.

              Your post is so naive and simple that it seems to me that you are a schoolboy.
              1. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 18: 31
                +4
                Quote: RUSS
                Quote: Pavlos Melas
                Is this your speculation?
                So that the message is not through third countries, but directly.
                I think it's obvious why pay Georgia and Iran when you can get by.

                Your post is so naive and simple that it seems to me that you are a schoolboy.

                You know the transition to personalities, it better shows who the student is hi
                1. RUSS
                  RUSS 24 October 2020 19: 00
                  -3
                  Quote: Pavlos Melas
                  You know the transition to personalities, it better shows who the student is

                  A schoolboy is not an insult, but if something hurt, then I'm sorry.
              2. Terenin
                Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 42
                +8
                Quote: RUSS
                Quote: Pavlos Melas
                Is this your speculation?
                So that the message is not through third countries, but directly.
                I think it's obvious why pay Georgia and Iran when you can get by.

                Your post is so naive and simple that it seems to me that you are a schoolboy.

                The student always has prospects, in contrast to the "academicians", especially if their posts interested the latter winked .
  8. svoit
    svoit 24 October 2020 16: 29
    -1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    The main thing for Armenians is to keep Lachin

    they can leave it to them, it is not Azerbaijan that supplies the Armenians in winter, but they can obviously destroy military cargo, and the corridor will be useful to the refugees, until spring it will be time to agree
    Quote: Greenwood
    On the whole, expected.

    That is, except for how to take part in the conflict, Russia does not see its role there?
    Well then, Turkey will have to, where to go?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 October 2020 17: 29
      +1
      If he is left the company will drag on, and every extra day will mean new sacrifices, human and material waste. And so - you can agree on the withdrawal of civilians and wounded, and then continue until the next negotiations, which will begin very quickly.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 57
      -1
      Quote: svoit
      it is not for Azerbaijan to supply Armenians in winter,

      And what does winter have to do with it? In Karabakh, the average temperature of the coldest months (January-February) is about 0 °.
  9. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 24 October 2020 16: 34
    +5
    Erdogan expressed satisfaction with the "liberation of the Azerbaijani land from occupation"

    Nothing but a feeling of disgust and annoyance from this event.
    Quote: denis obuckov
    I understand Erdogan he wants to firmly tie Azerbaijan to Turkey. He doesn't care about the outcome of the war.

    And, most importantly, he is not afraid of absolutely no retaliatory move either from Armenia, or from the world community, or from Russia, whose neighbors and former union republics were these countries - Armenia and Azerbaijan.
    Quote: Gordei
    He has already climbed specifically into the territory of interests of Russia and our borders ..

    He shot down Russian planes, killed Russian soldiers and ambassadors ... Now he is simply provoking Russia. to the retaliatory "tomato" boycott ... But, to be serious, he spit on everyone and everything except strength. However, like all "partners" of Russia.
  10. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 24 October 2020 16: 36
    +3
    A couple of amusing reports from the media.
    In recent days, there have been widespread calls in the Saudi segment of social networks for a boycott of Turkish products amid the aggressive policies of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his rude attacks on the Arab countries of the Persian Gulf.


    In recent days, the largest supermarkets and retail chains in the kingdom have removed the Turkish assortment from the shelves, replacing most of it with Greek products. In particular, we are talking about the networks Danube, Tamimi, Othaim, Panda.
    .




    Spanish fashion chain Mango has announced that it will replace its 55-store chain in Saudi Arabia, which was previously produced in Turkey. Popular food service chain Herfy has announced the name change of its main dish "Turkish Burger" to "Greek Burger" and has reduced the price of it.
  11. Alexander Suvorov_2
    Alexander Suvorov_2 24 October 2020 16: 46
    +7
    Azerbaijan drags chestnuts for Turkey
    So I think. Tom needs the Great Turan .. Second Fuhrer.
    1. Clear
      Clear 24 October 2020 19: 42
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Suvorov_2
      Azerbaijan drags chestnuts for Turkey
      So I think. Tom needs the Great Turan .. Second Fuhrer.

      If it were not for the Russians, there would be neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan. There would be Turkey with Iran, and the current residents there would be like national minorities.
      1. Alexander Suvorov_2
        Alexander Suvorov_2 24 October 2020 20: 05
        +1
        I am aware of this, but I wrote about something else))))
  12. opuonmed
    opuonmed 24 October 2020 16: 47
    -3
    well done Erdogan knows exactly what he wants, not like Putin! Putin, however, said to the CIS itself must reach that they themselves would come to Moscow current one question is who will lead him outside Moscow against Moscow time! We don't even officially support Donbass! we all look at Europe which needs the division of the Russian Federation
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: opuonmed
      well done Erdogan

      Yeah, well done, winked among the sheep, but among the young man, he himself is a sheep!
  13. cniza
    cniza 24 October 2020 16: 47
    +3
    According to the journalist, the country is preparing to create a buffer zone in Nagorno-Karabakh.


    And what's next ? or until the conflict ends ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 33
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      According to the journalist, the country is preparing to create a buffer zone in Nagorno-Karabakh.


      And what's next ? or until the conflict ends ...

      Her No. ... They won't be allowed to finish between themselves.
      Welcome hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 24 October 2020 18: 41
        +3
        Good time! hi

        Yes, they can create a "funnel" for being drawn into the war ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 45
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          Good time! hi

          Yes, they can create a "funnel" for being drawn into the war ...

          Then, for those who create a "funnel" of war, it will be necessary to create a similar "funnel" ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 24 October 2020 18: 47
            +3
            And they themselves will fly into it, they think that the ocean will not reach them - they are mistaken ...
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 55
              +3
              Quote: cniza
              And they themselves will fly into it, they think that the ocean will not reach them - they are mistaken ...

              It's even easier. At least temporarily cut off the attempts of other players to expand the conflict, and he will turn into a positional shooter. And, of course, foreign policy adjustments.
  14. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 October 2020 16: 47
    +1
    Well, the Persians at least have their own attack drones, so I hope they will not let the Sultan arrange Karabakh 2 on their land.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 October 2020 17: 55
      -3
      Quote: Thrifty
      Well, the Persians at least have their own attack drones, so I hope they will not let the Sultan arrange Karabakh 2 on their land.

      It will be interesting there - the Israeli basis for the Turkish UAVs against the American ones for the Persians))
  15. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 24 October 2020 16: 54
    +3
    Erdogan - If a third country intervenes in the conflict, Turkey will be the fourth.
    1. cniza
      cniza 24 October 2020 17: 49
      +2
      Well, that's what they are trying to achieve, and then Russia rushed ..., no, you need to be more careful.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 35
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        Well, that's what they are trying to achieve, and then Russia rushed ..., no, you need to be more careful.

        Everything is correct. There are a lot of other levers.
        1. cniza
          cniza 24 October 2020 18: 45
          +2
          Only now there are not enough "hands" for these levers, and then it may be too late ...
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 24 October 2020 18: 49
            +4
            Quote: cniza
            Only now there are not enough "hands" for these levers, and then it may be too late ...

            It's late or early, you have to think about it. Those who wanted to come to the war, they either arrived, or they will definitely arrive. For the locality of the conflict, no state will come out. Moreover, against Russia. Only escalation, exhaustion and exhaustion.
    2. Hwostatij
      Hwostatij 24 October 2020 17: 51
      0
      If he is going to intervene after Russia - the flag is in his hands. I think Constantinople will have to be burned.
  16. Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 24 October 2020 16: 58
    -1
    The military command of Azerbaijan, once again addressing civilians living in settlements located near the combat zone, recommends that they stay away from military facilities and infrastructure in order to avoid injury.

    At the same time, the Military Command of Azerbaijan, also addressing the soldiers and volunteers deceived by the military-political leadership of Armenia and taken to the occupied territories of our country, offered to lay down their arms and surrender.

    It should be noted that the command is ready to take all necessary measures in order to ensure the safety, food, medical care and other needs of the civilian population that has gone over to the Azerbaijani side.

    In addition, all the rights of prisoners of war and civilians will be protected in accordance with international humanitarian law, and through international organizations, the necessary conditions will be created for persons wishing to go to third countries.
  17. Jünger
    Jünger 24 October 2020 17: 08
    +4
    In general, Erdogan inspires respect for his clearly expressed national position.
    He does not "express concern", does not bleat about "peace-peace", but speaks directly about his goals and takes decisive steps towards them.
    Ours are very far from this. Can you imagine that Putin will declare about us and Ukraine / Belarus - "two states - one people"? Of course not. We will continue to be guided by good intentions and breed a talking shop. And Erdogan forges iron at this time and puts it on everyone.
    In fact, he is an outstanding political leader of our time.
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 24 October 2020 17: 22
      0
      Quote: Junger
      In general, Erdogan inspires respect for his clearly expressed national position.
      He does not "express concern", does not bleat about "peace-peace", but speaks directly about his goals and takes decisive steps towards them.
      Ours are very far from this. Can you imagine that Putin will declare about us and Ukraine / Belarus - "two states - one people"? Of course not. We will continue to be guided by good intentions and breed a talking shop. And Erdogan forges iron at this time and puts it on everyone.
      In fact, he is an outstanding political leader of our time.
      for this, the curators will make him a baboon)
  18. Doliva63
    Doliva63 24 October 2020 17: 12
    +5
    "two states - one people" ...
    Why are Turks and Azerbaijanis suddenly one people? belay
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 24 October 2020 17: 15
      +2
      Hello good morning laughing
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 24 October 2020 18: 41
        +2
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        Hello good morning laughing

        It's already evening, buddy! laughing In Nakhichevan, for example, a Persian could be found, but a Turk - never. Shall we argue? laughing drinks
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 24 October 2020 17: 37
      -8
      Quote: Doliva63
      "two states - one people" ...
      Why are Turks and Azerbaijanis suddenly one people? belay

      Just go to the Internet and read about the Turks, about their current settlement and language, and understand everything. You will see in the Internet age)))
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 24 October 2020 17: 58
        +6
        But the Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Chuvashs, Tatars, Bashkirs, Tuvans, Yakuts, Gagauz, Kumyks, Karachais, although they are Turks, do not consider themselves one people with the Turks. Yes, it seems that Iranian Azerbaijanis, of whom there are two or three times more than Azerbaijanis of independent Azerbaijan, do not seem to feel themselves as one people with the Turks either. By the way, not all Turkic-speaking people are Turkic in origin. Tuvans, Yakuts are Turkic-speaking, but they have no special affinity with the Turks.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 24 October 2020 18: 18
          -5
          Quote: Sergej1972
          But here are Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Chuvashs, Tatars, Bashkirs, Tuvinians, Yakuts, Gagauz, Kumyks, Karachais, although they are Turks,

          Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Kazakhs, Turkmens, Crimean Tatars and many other peoples consider themselves and the Turks to be one people.
          Yakuts, Gagauz, Dolgans, etc. are essentially only Turkish-speaking, but ethnically far from the Türks
          1. Jünger
            Jünger 24 October 2020 18: 26
            +6
            Quote: RUSS
            Yakuts, Gagauz, Dolgans, etc. are essentially only Turkish-speaking, but ethnically far from the Türks

            And the inhabitants of Turkey themselves are far from the Turks.
            In general, the Turks are such a very muddy formation. Either a linguistic group, or an ethnic group - no one really looks like it and does not know what it is. Therefore, you can shove anyone you want there.
            In general, surprisingly, the word "Turk" in the Ottoman Empire was almost abusive.
            1. Rubina
              Rubina 25 October 2020 00: 01
              0
              A language group is an ethnic group, because an ethnic group is based on language and a sense of belonging to one nation. If you are talking about blood, that is, DNA, then the infusion of other peoples by the Turks and Azerbaijanis is different. Of all the Turkic peoples, from a common root, the Turks and Azerbaijanis (the Turkmens a little earlier) split later than everyone else, and the difference in language is about the same as between Russian and Belarusian, even less than Ukrainian and Russian. The Yakuts and Chuvash, for example, separated a long time ago. We don't understand them.
          2. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 25 October 2020 17: 06
            0
            Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Kazakhs, Turkmens, Crimean Tatars and many other peoples consider themselves and the Turks to be one people.

            And all descended from blacks from Ethiopia :)
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 24 October 2020 18: 38
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Doliva63
        "two states - one people" ...
        Why are Turks and Azerbaijanis suddenly one people? belay

        Just go to the Internet and read about the Turks, about their current settlement and language, and understand everything. You will see in the Internet age)))

        I was born there, what is the Internet to me? wink
  19. Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 24 October 2020 17: 40
    +3
    "Two states - one people"

    Fresh tradition ... Yes, this is an outright "Anschluss".
    1. Clear
      Clear 24 October 2020 19: 33
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Kopychev
      "Two states - one people"

      Fresh tradition ... Yes, this is an outright "Anschluss".

      And, no one is hiding it.
  20. Hwostatij
    Hwostatij 24 October 2020 17: 41
    -4
    Quote: opuonmed
    Quote: TermNachTER
    And why does Russia need it? To kill your soldiers for Pashinyan? Russia can help in another way - by supplying equipment, weapons, intelligence data. Russia is interested in dragging out the conflict. Firstly, the departure of Pashinyan and the arrival of a pro-Russian politician in his place. The mutual exhaustion of Armenia and Azerbaijan will make them more manageable later (for Moscow). The more tanks and aircraft are burned now, the more they will have to buy from Moscow tomorrow.
    throwing them to enemies, a clear position for more controllability against Moscow time) although you may be right)

    We definitely don't have friends there. If you cut each other, we will only applaud.
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 24 October 2020 18: 18
      -1
      Quote: Hwostatij
      Quote: opuonmed
      Quote: TermNachTER
      And why does Russia need it? To kill your soldiers for Pashinyan? Russia can help in another way - by supplying equipment, weapons, intelligence data. Russia is interested in dragging out the conflict. Firstly, the departure of Pashinyan and the arrival of a pro-Russian politician in his place. The mutual exhaustion of Armenia and Azerbaijan will make them more manageable later (for Moscow). The more tanks and aircraft are burned now, the more they will have to buy from Moscow tomorrow.
      throwing them to enemies, a clear position for more controllability against Moscow time) although you may be right)

      We definitely don't have friends there. If you cut each other, we will only applaud.

      friends are there for sure, they understand that together there will be ludshi current, they still do not see the actions of Moscow!
      1. Hwostatij
        Hwostatij 24 October 2020 18: 30
        -4
        And which of you are our friends? Laziness, to be honest, even sort you.
  21. iouris
    iouris 24 October 2020 17: 47
    -2
    During his last visit to Baku in September 1982, Leonid Brezhnev, before almost perishing in Tashkent in the collapse of a structure in the workshop, made a reservation and said to H. Aliyev something like: “I am glad to welcome you to the land of friendly Afghanistan. .. "Or maybe he didn't make a reservation, but he foresaw it?
  22. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 18: 11
    +5
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Pavlos Melas
    Also, following your logic, Turkey is crying about the Kosovar Albanians, too, well, there is nothing they have about their own state of Albania.

    There are Albanians in Kosovo and Albania, but there are two states, which means both Armenia and Karabakh can have their own states. As of September 4, 2020, 98 out of 193 UN member states, 22 out of 27 EU member states, 26 out of 30 NATO member states have recognized Kosovo. But Nagorno-Karabakh is recognized by Abkhazia, South Ossetia and the PMR, and nine states of the United States are also recognized at once: Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Maine, Louisiana, California, Georgia, Colorado, Hawaii and Michigan. The authorities of these states have repeatedly appealed to Washington with a demand to recognize Karabakh.
    Australia's largest state, New South Wales, recognizes Nagorno-Karabakh's legal right to self-determination.

    So I also say that if Turkey recognizes Kosovo, why are they appealing to the Armenians that they already have Armenia?)
  23. basal
    basal 24 October 2020 18: 11
    +2
    I don’t understand. "Two states, one people" says Erdogan (by the way, he is an ethnic Georgian). What is he talking about? The fact that the Azerbaijani language is close to Turkish is true, so what? As far as I understand, ethnically Azerbaijanis are close not to Turks, but to Persians. In fact, there are twice as many Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan itself, and on their historical lands. And the language is a legacy of the Ottoman occupation, what can you do. And I'm not sure that more Azerbaijanis speak the Turkic dialect than Farsi. In general, such a mono-ethnic country as Armenia is an exception for the Caucasus, not a rule, everything is too mixed up. Are we ethnically close to zapadukry? Yes. Only God forbid from such relatives. And what about religion? Azerbaijanis have retained the Shiite direction of Islam and where are the Turks - Sunnis? Here we have "best friends" Poles - Catholics (and in fact also relatives), how much has Russia suffered from them?
    1. Jünger
      Jünger 24 October 2020 18: 55
      +5
      Quote: basal
      As far as I understand, ethnically Azerbaijanis are close not to Turks, but to Persians.

      It is unlikely. Persians are an ancient Indo-European people, and Azerbaijanis appeared in the region at the end of the first millennium as part of nomadic Turkic tribes.
      Quote: basal
      In fact, there are twice as many Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan itself, and on their historical lands

      The historical land of Azerbaijanis and other Turks is Altai and somewhere in the area between the Syr Darya and Amu Darya rivers smile
      Well, the fact that there are a lot of them in Iran - it turned out that they had already Turkified the Persians notably. Migration routes through Iran lay.
      1. Rubina
        Rubina 25 October 2020 00: 09
        0
        Bravo! Good knowledge of history.
    2. Master
      Master 24 October 2020 19: 02
      +3
      Quote: basal
      I don’t understand. "Two states, one people" says Erdogan (by the way, he is an ethnic Georgian). What is he talking about? The fact that the Azerbaijani language is close to Turkish is true, so what? As far as I understand, ethnically Azerbaijanis are close not to Turks, but to Persians. In fact, there are twice as many Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan itself, and on their historical lands. And the language is a legacy of the Ottoman occupation, what can you do. And I'm not sure that more Azerbaijanis speak the Turkic dialect than Farsi. In general, such a mono-ethnic country as Armenia is an exception for the Caucasus, not a rule, everything is too mixed up. Are we ethnically close to zapadukry? Yes. Only God forbid from such relatives. And what about religion? Azerbaijanis have retained the Shiite direction of Islam and where are the Turks - Sunnis? Here we have "best friends" Poles - Catholics (and in fact also relatives), how much has Russia suffered from them?

      No, you are wrong. Persians and Azerbaijanis are completely different ethnic groups. And they speak Azerbaijani in Iran, not Farsi. You can be sure if you visit the northern provinces of Iran and see for yourself. And not like individual people. And almost everyone, absolutely everyone, speaks Azerbaijani. And about the Shiites and Sunnis. How can I tell you. There is no such talk in Azerbaijan at all. In general, it is strange that the majority represent. Azerbaijan as an Islamic state. Although, in fact, in our country, to put it mildly, religion is not very popular.
      1. basal
        basal 24 October 2020 21: 55
        +1
        Rustam! I didn’t say anything, there’s not enough knowledge, just wondering. Is Farsi still not native to a part of the population in Azerbaijan? And the word "Azerbaijan" itself is of Persian origin. As far as I understand, the Turkic language also began to spread around the 15th century. Now this story is too old and has meaning only for historians, but still ... where is the truth? And religion ... I gave an example only to show that the thesis about one people is somehow doubtful if the beliefs are different. By the way, do you also consider yourself a Turk?
        1. Rubina
          Rubina 25 October 2020 00: 18
          +2
          1. Not from the 15th, but from the 11th century.
          2. Yes, in the south of Azerbaijan and on the other side of the border with Iran there is a national minority - Talysh, they speak the language of the Iranian group. They are not Persians for Iran either, but the Iranian-speaking minority.
          3. Yes, our self-name Türk was written down in old passports before 1936.
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 24 October 2020 19: 13
      0
      Quote: basal
      Erdogan (by the way, he is an ethnic Georgian).

      Erdogan is not a Georgian, do not read the yellow press.
      Quote: basal
      As far as I understand, ethnically Azerbaijanis are close not to Turks, but to Persians

      Do not understand correctly, the Azerbaijanis are very far from the Iranian-Persians.

      Quote: basal
      What about religion? Azerbaijanis have preserved the Shiite direction of Islam and where are the Turks - Sunnis? Here we have "best friends" Poles - Catholics

      The events in Georgia and Ukraine have shown that Christianity, and especially Orthodoxy, is not a stopping factor for war and, unfortunately, no longer uniting.
      1. basal
        basal 24 October 2020 21: 59
        0
        I agree with Erdogan, the story is muddy there. I disagree with the Persians, there is a very old history. And religion ... so there again Erdogan muddies with Islamism. Both Turkey and Azerbaijan are, of course, Islamic countries, but without fanaticism ... for now.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 24 October 2020 23: 28
        0
        Do you have Erdogan's genetic map? Lay out please))))
      3. Rubina
        Rubina 25 October 2020 00: 23
        -1
        Erdogan is indeed an ethnic Georgian by blood - a Laz from the only remaining historical Georgian province of Lazika in Turkey. Lazy Muslims and the center of Lazika was present-day Batumi. But this is the thing - except for the Kurds and Armenians, everyone else considers themselves Turks.
  24. Radapupin
    Radapupin 24 October 2020 18: 18
    0
    Armenia is shelling Azerbaijani troops from its territory ...
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 24 October 2020 21: 44
      0
      They are engaged in useless business.
      At noon on October 24, units of the armed forces of Armenia attempted to attack units of the Azerbaijan Army from the side of the Syunik-Zangilan road.

      This is reported by the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.

      According to the report, faced with fierce resistance from our units, the enemy was forced to retreat. There are prisoners taken from enemy troops.
      UAV today https://haqqin.az/news/192355
  25. Cottager452
    Cottager452 24 October 2020 18: 31
    -1
    I am more worried about the personnel of the base, if the Turks do not stop at Karabakh.
    1. Clear
      Clear 24 October 2020 19: 30
      +2
      Quote: Summer Resident452
      I am more worried about the personnel of the base, if the Turks do not stop at Karabakh.

      Yes, I am very worried about our guys.
      1. migsu
        migsu 24 October 2020 20: 47
        -2
        Do not be afraid ... Turkey and the whole world at Russia at gunpoint !!!
        1. Clear
          Clear 25 October 2020 09: 08
          +3
          Quote: migsu
          Do not be afraid ... Turkey and the whole world at Russia at gunpoint !!!

          It is immediately evident that you are an intelligent, kind and knowledgeable comrade of all sights winked
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  27. Igor Semenov
    Igor Semenov 24 October 2020 20: 18
    +2
    "two states - one people"
    I wonder how soon Erdogan will ask the question "Why does one people need two states?"
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 24 October 2020 20: 48
      +1
      This is not a question for him.
      The set goal.
      Ottoman Empire.
  28. Livonetc
    Livonetc 24 October 2020 20: 42
    -1
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    "You and your opponents have blood on your hands." But for some reason on your posts they are inserted by cute victims, unilaterally.

    It is you who declare the people in the photo of my post as victims.
    I posted a photo about people who live and believe in life.
    Here are the victims.
    And your guilt in these sacrifices is present.
  29. migsu
    migsu 24 October 2020 20: 43
    -4
    Pidorgan will always be and remain them when they even give him a crescent in the ass.
  30. Baloo
    Baloo 24 October 2020 20: 43
    +4
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Gordei
    What are you so worried about? Scary ..)))
    For starters, the special forces - Rospodrebnadzor (Onishchenko) and other structures ..

    Quote: Gordei
    And then, what did you think about and get scared ...

    What are you speaking about? What is this "stream of consciousness"? Please explain yourself more clearly.

    He meant to begin with:
  31. migsu
    migsu 24 October 2020 20: 45
    -3
    The mongrels like to bark from the gateway until the Bear covers them!
  32. Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 24 October 2020 22: 35
    +1
    Another propaganda bullshit. One people, brothers, sisters and other nonsense. Lies aimed at the uneducated population. They will sell and betray each other at the first opportunity.
  33. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 24 October 2020 23: 06
    +1
    Quote: TermNachTER
    Turkey is only de jure in NATO. "De facto" it has been pursuing its policy for a long time, which is not exactly at odds with the official position of Brussels, but even directly contradicts it. So, Erdogan's influence on the situation in NATO is approximately like "reducing the number of penguins in Antarctica."

    Alas, Turkey has a good geographic position, it won't be kicked out of NATO so quickly. These discrepancies are still perceived as whims. In Europe, the Germans are their friends now, after Brexit, relations with Britain may improve. So not everything is as smooth as we would like.
  34. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 October 2020 23: 24
    +1
    Macron decided to play the great politician. The French ambassador from Turkey was recalled. What is happening in this world?
  35. svoit
    svoit 24 October 2020 23: 54
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    means that both Armenia and Karabakh can have their own states
    just like Turkey and Azerbaijan - one people - two states
  36. unknown
    unknown 25 October 2020 06: 30
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    What brothers is Erdogan talking about?
    He does not know the history of his country at all.
    Turkey came into being thanks to the Bolsheviks.
    Turkey has no ancient history.
    And no Azerbaijanis are brothers to Turks.
    Turks are Armenians, mainly Russians, Circassians and Kurds.
    If we raise the issue of blood, then the Turks had to fit in for the Armenians, and Iran had to fit in for the Azerbaijanis. Then it would be by blood.
    Erdogan decided to repeat the story of Mussolini?
    But, modern Italy had nothing to do with the Roman Empire, even geographically.
    And how did it end for Italy and Mussolini?
    According to the most literate astrologers, the next Empire, after Russia, will be Iran.
    Accordingly, Turkey is destined for the role of the Totalitarian Double, or Shadow (for short).
    The Totalitarian Twin will never defeat the Empire. Only temporary tactical successes are possible.
  37. Atom81
    Atom81 25 October 2020 07: 18
    +1
    Erdogan is fed and raised for something like Hitler once did. Before him, the roads in Syria, Libya are cleared, if he wanted or would have been under the teeth of Egypt and other Arabis, then they would not have created any problems for her, but the main direction where his head was turned (Israel suddenly "made friends" with a number of Arab states) is North and East. Here the Armenians will simply serve as food to feed their monsters (this is precisely what explains the ruthless destruction of the male population with the most advanced means of Israel, Canada, the United States, Britain, on which Turkish yarliks ​​were simply hung, as well as the militants thrown over them were created and harnessed together during all these years) Even Iran cannot be a final whole, since for it such a multi-rocket would not have been used, they would have simply destroyed everything, but its northern territories are quite suitable for the plan. And just as they gave Hitler all of mainland Europe, the Caucasus, Central Asia and even Pakistan with their cores will give Erdogan weight, and then some countries will have to hastily build walls between their Turks and Erdogan and not think about something else.