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The US named the main weapon against Russia in the event of a war in Europe

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The US named the main weapon against Russia in the event of a war in Europe

The fifth generation fighter F-35 Lightning II is the only aircraft capable of withstanding Russian troops in the event of a possible military conflict in Europe. This is stated in the report of the American strategic think tank RAND, according to Defense News.


According to the report, the F-35 fighter will become the main fighter in Europe in the future, the main task of which will be to confront Russia.

NATO's capabilities in intense conflict with Russia will improve with hundreds of fifth-generation fighters in the 2020s

- the document says.

It is argued that in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, the F-35 will be able to penetrate the Russian air defense systems, "making a significant combat contribution from the first hours." A military conflict may arise, according to American analysts, if Moscow, taking advantage of the "imbalance in the region", tries to occupy any part of NATO territory.

Thus, the European countries that have already signed a contract for the supply of the F-35 are improving their air forces in order to conduct joint operations of the new fighter in the future.

At the same time, the report emphasizes that modern aviation European countries that are not armed with fifth-generation F-35 fighters are "incapable of breaking through Russian air defense."

(...) the possibilities of breaking through the Russian air defense by the combat aviation of European countries that do not have fifth generation fighters, in particular France and Germany, are limited

- approved in the report.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 24 October 2020 13: 38
    14
    Penguins - Our everything! (C), (USAF). yes
    I did not understand anything else.
    1. nnm
      nnm 24 October 2020 13: 56
      16
      In this case - penguins)))
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 24 October 2020 14: 13
        +7
        Quote: nnm
        In this case - penguins)))

        Buy ours, buy it the most-the-most ... that's why the Turks did not get the "Penguins", because they could admire them on the screens of the C 400 locators (and who would stop them?), And ... you never know what, suddenly would have rang about it? The business project would be covered ... While in the area of ​​our locators F 35 fly with Luneberg lenses in order to hide their true signature. After all, this is the biggest intrigue, and the TOP-secret ... What if someone screams - and the king is naked! And everyone will see ...
      2. Konnick
        Konnick 25 October 2020 07: 45
        +1
        "Don't throw me into the thorn bush."
        They themselves have spent billions and are urged to spend on a wunderwaffe capable of breaking through air defense, while they themselves are secretly preparing surprises. Oh, what kind of air defense Russia has ... they gasp, and we drool and dissolve, and Israel and Azerbaijan have clearly shown a breakthrough in our air defense. "Who will praise me best ..."
    2. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 24 October 2020 14: 58
      16
      Quote: Hunter 2
      I did not understand anything else.

      The main thing that can be understood from the article is the desire of the United States to fight on foreign territory to the last European. They hope once again to sit out "behind a big puddle".
      1. nnm
        nnm 24 October 2020 15: 20
        +5
        "Vanguard" to help them and "Satan" to boot
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 24 October 2020 16: 00
        +6
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        Quote: Hunter 2
        I did not understand anything else.

        The main thing that can be understood from the article is the desire of the United States to fight on foreign territory to the last European. They hope once again to sit out "behind a big puddle".

        Almost every day we read articles on VO "America in the event of a war with Russia" - and everything about tanks, aircraft, infantry fighting vehicles and so on. Today there are already two. So in Europe, no one thinks - tanks and planes "in the event of a war with Russia" - this is WHERE ??? And this is a direct KIRDYK TO WHOM? And, as you, Vladimir, noted - to the last WHOM?

        If even their "experts" talked about the upcoming war with Russia and discussed at least intercontinental missiles, then at least it would be clear that America really wants to fight with us. And so - "you buy planes from us, we will play you off, and because of the Puddle we will see what you get."
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 24 October 2020 16: 25
          +4
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Almost every day we read articles on VO "America in the event of a war with Russia" - and everything about tanks, aircraft, infantry fighting vehicles and so on. Today there are already two.

          Greetings, Igor Alekseevich! hi
          And mind you, wars on our continent. But there are no more people willing to attend the next Blitzkrieg in Europe.
          And vassals need to sell their "goods". So the "experts" are making money, intimidating the Europeans with Russia's aggressive plans.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 24 October 2020 17: 29
            +4
            Vladimir, hi !
            Quote: Vladimir_6
            And mind you, wars on our continent. But there are no more people willing to attend the next Blitzkrieg in Europe.
            Yes, that's just the stump that IS! Only now it is not Blitzkrieg, but a lightning war, because in Europe, especially in "new Europe", for some reason they are sure that America will fight for them. This is their main mistake, and FATAL.

            America is fed enough with Vietnam, from Iraq "plastics" came to America comparable to our "zinc" from Afghanistan. Therefore, America will do everything, give (sell) everything so that "plastics" from Europe do not come to them. Ideally, none. And on the Europeans themselves, especially on the "new", she does not care about saliva - even if they bury their own at least five floors.
            1. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 24 October 2020 20: 33
              +3
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Yes, that's just the stump that IS! Only now it is no longer Blitzkrieg, but a lightning war, because in Europe, especially in "new Europe", for some reason they are sure that America will fight for them.

              Well, these "former friends" have pathological fear and hatred of Russia. America is definitely not up to them.
              This is their main mistake, and FATAL.

              Perhaps this is not even a mistake, this is already a diagnosis.
              America is fed enough with Vietnam, from Iraq "plastics" came to America comparable to our "zinc" from Afghanistan.

              There are other statistics as well. The number of participants in the hostilities committed suicide many times more than died in the war.
              Therefore, America will do everything, give (sell) everything so that "plastics" from Europe do not come to them. Ideally, none.

              Trump said that America would no longer fight for other people's interests. There are only a few days left to find out if he will have a chance to fulfill his promise.
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          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 24 October 2020 17: 33
            +2
            Quote: Gordei
            This puddle will not save them ..

            They think they will. That we will get so bogged down by exterminating the Europeans - and "old" Europe, and especially "new" - that, according to their calculations, our hands will not reach them.
            Hands may not reach - Europe will be strangled. And the missiles will reach ...
        3. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 24 October 2020 19: 35
          +3
          They all know perfectly well. They just can't do ANYTHING. All European countries, this is the territory occupied by the UGA. They want to pursue an independent policy, but they do not want to pay for independence. And not just money. But capitalism is in the yard and they already get crumbs from the master's table. Now, if Russia gave them independence .... Then to call it an occupier and mix it with guano.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 24 October 2020 19: 43
            +3
            Quote: AKuzenka
            Now, if Russia gave them independence .... Then to call it an occupier and mix it with guano.

            Interestingly - Ukraine or Georgia is now more independent than in the dark times of the "occupation of the USSR"? Ha....
            Georgia, by the way, in 2008 on its own skin tasted the fruits that grow on the tree of "independence". But no one understood the taste, everyone wants to try it themselves. And Georgia did not really understand ...
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 24 October 2020 19: 48
              +2
              Of course, more independent, especially from the interests of their people. So now everywhere, and in Russia, too. Stuffing a wallet and the interests of the country, all the time diverge among those in power. I am not surprised at any betrayal, because this is the security of the wallet. And the fact that thousands will die in a civil war or from hunger, a traitor does not care. The main thing is that the thunder of patriotism on TV does not stop.
      3. frruc
        frruc 24 October 2020 19: 06
        +2
        ..... the report emphasizes that modern aviation of European countries, which do not have fifth-generation F-35 fighters in service, "are not capable of breaking through Russian air defense" ....

        Just to get their planes in to "their" NATO partners (and not only), of course, not free of charge. And you won't be able to sit behind a big puddle, and they will get it there! Ha! hi
      4. sniperino
        sniperino 24 October 2020 20: 09
        +3
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        They hope once again to sit out "behind a big puddle".
        They seem to have been warned about retaliatory strikes against decision-making centers.
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 24 October 2020 20: 42
          +3
          Quote: sniperino
          They seem to have been warned about retaliatory strikes against decision-making centers.

          Exactly. As the saying goes: "Those who have ears, let them hear." Moreover, they learned a lot about what they considered "cartoons".
    3. deniso
      deniso 24 October 2020 15: 13
      +6
      And these clowns don’t think what fatally “significant contribution from the first hours of the conflict” will make “Poseidons” with “Vanguards”?
    4. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 24 October 2020 16: 34
      -1
      "I didn't understand anything else." ////
      ----
      This is excusable. Because the Russian Ministry of Defense also seems to be the same
      the moment did not realize the threat posed by the F-35.
      It's just like drones. First: "All nonsense, toys of the pioneer circle,
      only against the Papuans. "
      And suddenly: "Oh!"
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 24 October 2020 18: 29
        -1
        And what is the threat from a flying pregnant cockroach with modest performance characteristics?
        I'm hungry for details))
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 24 October 2020 18: 32
        +7
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "I didn't understand anything else." ////
        ----
        This is excusable. Because The Russian Ministry of Defense also seems to be the same
        the moment did not realize the threat posed by the F-35.

        It's just like drones. First: "All nonsense, toys of the pioneer circle,
        only against the Papuans. "

        It is not the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation that has not realized this, they do not know what they are doing. In the event of war, it may turn out that these "invisibles" will have nowhere to return. They should change the rhetoric, but do something useful, and not whip up military hysteria, otherwise it will suddenly turn out as you said
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And suddenly: "Oh!"
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 24 October 2020 18: 57
        0
        Nothing to say, just a minus stick?

        I thought so)))
        Fu 35 wunderwaffle, why won't I tell you, be afraid and that's it))
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 October 2020 19: 00
          +5
          In principle, I never give any disadvantages to anyone. fellow
          Or a plus, or nothing.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 24 October 2020 21: 35
            -1
            Yes Yes.
            Who do you want to deceive?))
            No offense, but I know your brother. Not on ... hmm, you can't cheat, you can't live))

            There are zero arguments, again. Should you trust you at least half a bite?
      4. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 24 October 2020 19: 38
        -1
        Well, of course, because in Russia, some stupid people sit and don't know how to analyze. Only under the shadow of the Star of David live those who know everything best. Am I wrong anywhere? No?! Hooray! This means that thinking people are not extinct in Russia !!!!!
      5. Warrior-80
        Warrior-80 24 October 2020 21: 19
        +2
        Well, you are already exaggerating, not so much fools are sitting in ours, and it was stated by our mo that the S-400 could confidently shoot down the F-35, I think with no empty talk, no matter how it turned out to be a hap from your side when the F-35s start In the Baltic states, it is generally nonsense to place penguins like Poland is nonsense, their bases will be destroyed in the first place in the first hours, if Russia hypothetically wanted to capture them
      6. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 25 October 2020 02: 27
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Because the Russian Ministry of Defense also seems to be
        the moment did not realize the threat posed by the F-35.
        I think they realized, because they stopped preparing for the past wars, but began to prepare for network-centric ones, in which the F-35 is given a central place on the ETVD, as a center for collecting, processing and distributing information / CU and organizing a database. And it is true!
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And what is the threat from a flying pregnant cockroach with modest performance characteristics? I'm hungry for details))
        A commendable desire to grasp the truth! - you will not say anything! Therefore, I have a question: is her head not needed in a fight at all? Only to have a hat in it !?) Although, you can even break your nose with your head! Therefore, do not be lazy, look in the wiki for a set of weapons from the Fu-35 ... and the composition of avionics, especially passive ones. Yes, exactly what he carries in the inner compartments. Maybe then there will come a "clearing in the mind" that you will not knock it down with hats and you will need to work proactively, at the base airfields and infrastructure ...
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Fu 35 wunderwaffle, why won't I tell you ...
        Free advice: - Keep this terrible military secret holy! bully
        PS I have never been a fan of the Yankees, all my life and 43 years of military service, how I could have fought against them ... But you need to go about not seeing the threat posed by them and their weapons ...
        IMHO.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 25 October 2020 02: 48
          -1
          Wow. Awareness of the approaching scribe from F35 reached at least someone else. The F35 was no longer a fighter-bomber; it became the center of network-centric systems. This is important, not supersonic cruising. The saturation of the troops is stage 1, the next modification (block 4) will give him even greater computing ability and the ability to work with slave UAVs. And they will solve 2 main problems by this: the high cost of the aircraft and the long training time for the pilot. That will make it possible to multiply the size of its air force. And this is just one of the possibilities the F35 offers.
          The Loyal Wingman program is their first priority, 4 companies have already received contracts for pre-production samples, and 11 more companies want to receive these contracts.
          We only have hope for nuclear weapons, there will be nothing to oppose to conventional ones, all our current projects, with rare exceptions, are relevant at the beginning of the 90s. The picture is extremely dangerous, therefore, the shrieking fellow citizens cause extreme irritation.
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 25 October 2020 03: 12
            +2
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            The picture is extremely dangerous, therefore, the shrieking fellow citizens cause extreme irritation.
            A couple of thoughts on ...
            1. Now the period of material and technical preparation for TMV ends, somewhere in the middle of the stage of moral and psychological preparation of the population for TMV, dehumanization of the enemy, etc.
            2. Those who do not know or do not understand what is really going on "shout"; or, in the old fashioned way, believing everything that our not very educated military-technical and geopolitical citizens write, not specialists, but propagandists ... ("not out of malice, but out of their ignorance")
            3. Some “shrug” from fear and disbelief that something might be like in 41st ... suddenly and suddenly
            so, as the character Borodach said, it is necessary to "Understand and forgive ..." wink
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 25 October 2020 11: 36
              0
              I would compare the current situation with the Crimean War, the technical lag is similar. I don't think there will be a big war, but they will gnaw on all sides, destroying the allies.
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 25 October 2020 12: 03
                +2
                Rather, the post-Soviet space and the zone of our vital interests will gnaw. But the main thing is not to quarrel with the whales. India is also important, but it still does not border on us.
                Therefore, now task number 1 is the internal unity of the people and the near abroad. And about the big war in this you are undoubtedly right. They won't venture into the front. They will gnaw at the edges.
    5. Doccor18
      Doccor18 24 October 2020 19: 46
      +4
      The worst thing about the "Penguins" is that there are as many of them as there are real ones in Antaktida ...
      It may be rather weak, but there are a lot of them and it is getting more and more ..
      In light of what is happening, and taking into account the slipping of the Su-57, it is necessary to increase the production of the Su-35S in order to replace all the old Su-27 and MiG-29 with them. The 350-400 Su-35S will be enough to cool the very excited Democrats a little.
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  2. Asad
    Asad 24 October 2020 13: 39
    +6
    Dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream! They perfectly understand that not to poke your nose, but no, wet dreams about a breakthrough in Russia's air defense cannot be stopped in themselves!
    1. stalki
      stalki 24 October 2020 13: 52
      11
      Dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream! They perfectly understand that not to poke your nose, but no, wet dreams about a breakthrough in Russia's air defense cannot be stopped in themselves!
      These are not dreams, but another ad for a penguin. It is bad to take steel.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 24 October 2020 14: 12
        +6
        An attempt to somehow return the money spent on a failed project.
  3. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 24 October 2020 13: 44
    +9
    Europeans buy, even more F 35, The whole point of the article.
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 24 October 2020 13: 50
      12
      As of January 01, 2020, these aircraft had MAIN - at least 13 category number one problems and they had to be eliminated during operational tests

      These 13 flaws, according to Defense News, are as follows:

      - The F-35's logistics system currently does not allow foreign operators of the program to prevent the leakage of their classified data while sending them to the United States;

      - the inventory of spare parts provided by the F-35 logistics system does not always reflect reality, which sometimes leads to cancellations of aircraft missions during planned combat training;

      - abrupt pressure surges in the F-35 cockpit sometimes lead to barotrauma of the pilots;

      - in a cold climate (about minus 35 degrees Celsius), the F-35 erroneously reports a malfunction in one of its batteries, which sometimes leads to the cancellation of the assigned tasks;

      - supersonic flight at speeds above M - 1,2 can cause structural damage and the formation of bubbles on the stealth coatings of the fuselage of the F-35B and F-35C;

      - after performing some maneuvers, the F-35B and F-35C pilots cannot always fully control the roll, heading and pitch of the aircraft;

      - if the F-35A and F-35B are blown with jets from the landing gear engines on landing, an impact may occur upon landing, damage to the hydraulics of both main landing gears and creating the risk of losing the aircraft;

      - sometimes a "green glow" appears on the display mounted on the pilot's helmet, blurring the image and making it difficult for the F-35C to land on an aircraft carrier;

      - at night, in weak starlight, the night vision camera sometimes displays green stripes, which make it difficult for all aircraft options to view the horizon or board a ship;

      - in the search mode of the F-35 airborne radar above the sea surface, only a small area of ​​the sea surface is displayed on the indicator screen;

      - When the F-35B lands vertically on very hot days, engines that have been in service for a long time may not be able to create the required thrust to keep the aircraft in the air, which in turn can lead to a hard landing.

      In addition, Air Force Commander Admiral Winter said that since the start of operational testing in December 2018, the Pentagon has identified four additional category one flaws, mainly related to weapon interfaces.
      1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
        ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 24 October 2020 14: 04
        +1
        I agree with you completely !!
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  4. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 24 October 2020 13: 54
    +2
    The generals there must understand that aggression against the Russian Federation is not a gay parade.
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 October 2020 13: 56
    +3
    The impression is that he and Ze are friends and together consume the same cannabis, and under a high you can’t make up any kind of nonsense.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 October 2020 13: 58
    +6
    This unit is not a 5th generation fighter, due to the lack of afterburner supersonic. Yes, and at supersonic it can fly for seconds, and then the stealth coating will begin to climb, and the fuselage will not withstand overloads, it will crack and deform! The Loh Kidovites themselves admitted the presence of such stocks in this aviation miracle!
  7. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 24 October 2020 14: 00
    +1
    Russia tremble! We throw in all formation. We save ourselves, who, how can ...
  8. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 24 October 2020 14: 07
    +6
    It is alleged that in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, the F-35 will be able to penetrate through Russian air defense systems
    it is quite possible that it will be able to, but where will it return, to the radioactive desert?
  9. Bulgarian
    Bulgarian 24 October 2020 14: 33
    -1
    Blessed is he who believes.
  10. Alexander Suvorov_2
    Alexander Suvorov_2 24 October 2020 15: 00
    +5
    All these unhealthy movements speak of preparing for a clash. Everything is very serious. Capitalism is dying and the bourgeoisie will try to get out of the situation at the expense of others by means of war, there are simply no other solutions. The question is who and when.
  11. askort154
    askort154 24 October 2020 15: 02
    +1
    the ability to break through the Russian air defense by the combat aviation of European countries that do not have fifth generation fighters, in particular France and Germany, are limited

    They didn't know this - Napoleon and Hitler. fool
  12. Machete
    Machete 24 October 2020 15: 10
    0
    As far as I understand with my meager mind, the penguin is still more of a fighter and does not pull on an attack aircraft or a bomber. And so the question arises: what the hell is this main weapon against our troops? Are they going to win the war with a fighter?
    This will be a new breakthrough method of warfare.
  13. deniso
    deniso 24 October 2020 15: 11
    +3
    Before the program closes, the US needs to sell as much as possible. Taking into account its airframe, it is most likely extremely unprofitable to repair such pepelats. That is, these fighters will not receive a significant modification, and just maintenance with spare parts for space costs money. In fact, this aircraft is a replacement for the F-16, and it should be positioned in the same niche. At one time, the F-16 was sold under a similar co-production program.

    Let's say Norway, which has already bought the F-35, said that the purchase of this aircraft had a negative impact on their combat aviation. In addition to design flaws, corrosion was also reported. In fact, the aircraft is based on the same riveted duralumin frame, which is covered with radio-absorbing coatings like glaze. That is, it is impossible to effectively monitor the condition of the glider - until this very coating begins to fall off. And partial restoration of the coating gives defects that negatively affect stealth. Photos of problem areas with corrosion of the F-22 walk on the net. That is, to preserve the coating of the F-35, you still need to have greenhouse storage conditions. Dust and rain in the air will also “wear off” the coatings. So the plane is sissy. And most likely not a long-liver.
  14. Borz
    Borz 24 October 2020 15: 24
    +4
    At the same time, the report emphasizes that the modern aviation of European countries, which do not have fifth-generation F-35 fighters in service, "are not capable of breaking through Russian air defense."

    "Buy, well, buy more these magnificent airplanes from us! Buy or lose!" The advertisement is engine of the trade.....
  15. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 24 October 2020 16: 25
    +2
    What does the war have to do with it? America now produces little other than weapons. They have nothing else to sell except guns and democracy. Oh yeah, I forgot, Afghan heroin, Latin American coke, dirty green paper and numbers on stock computers.
    Everything else is small things. So they are trying. After all, advertising is the engine of commerce. And also fear.
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  17. Lord
    Lord 25 October 2020 05: 09
    +1
    Buy our elephants
  18. Rostislav
    Rostislav 26 October 2020 13: 44
    0
    Are they buying a little? Still need to nudge buyers?