NATO will take the Ukrainian army on a short leash?

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Petro Poroshenko, the previous president of Ukraine, has repeatedly called the Armed Forces "the most efficient army in Europe." To what extent did this correspond to reality at that time? .. But another thing is much more interesting: how much do such laudatory assessments correspond to the state of the armed forces "non-existent" at the present moment?

Recently, the Ukrainian office of the British media corporation BBC News erupted with critical material about the state of the Ukrainian army. This attack can be directly linked to the recent visit of Volodymyr Zelenskyy to London, during which certain agreements were reached on a sharp intensification of cooperation between Britain and Ukraine in the military sphere. It seems that the newly-found "allies" decided to "show" the president, and in a harsh manner.



The picture drawn by the BBC looks depressing: the army is simply scattering. In 2018-2020, more than 77 thousand contractors left it, which is almost a third of the staffing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Moreover, 20 thousand people removed their shoulder straps only in the first 9 months of this year. This is not speculation, but the exact data of the local General Staff. According to his own calculations, in 2016, for example, only 2,6 thousand people left the army ranks.

The situation with technical equipment is no less sad. Of Ukraine's colossal defense budget of 3% of GDP, 20 billion hryvnias (more than 54 billion rubles) remained undeveloped by the Ministry of Defense. In 2021, experts predict a "collapse" in the defense procurement market. The problem with ammunition is especially acute, primarily for armored vehicles, MLRS, and other artillery systems, which were thoughtlessly and wastefully shot in 2014-2015. Now there is simply nothing to replenish their stocks with.

At the same time, the state defense order (SDO) for weapons, military equipment and ammunition this year exceeded (on paper) last year's by 37% and amounted to 30 billion hryvnia (more than 81 billion rubles). At the same time, in reality, at the end of September, the Ministry of Defense used no more than 60-70% of these funds. Regarding the rest of the purchases (food, uniforms and other things necessary to ensure the normal life of the army), the figure is even less - no more than 40% of the funds have been spent.

In reality, this leads to the fact that the Ukrainian servicemen, with whom the BBC journalists talked, vying to tell them about the "disgusting food", "disgusting living conditions" and other "delights" of the army, from which, according to them, "I just want to escape" ... Huge problems arise with the nutrition of personnel, providing them with material and clothing allowances and other household components, without which the performance of service and combat missions and maintenance of combat readiness become very problematic.

The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Ruslan Khomchak, who answered the questions of the British media, convinced the interlocutors that everything was far from being as bad as “the former officials and commanders who were holding their grudges” say "), And how it might seem at first glance. As for the fleeing military, the commander-in-chief pointed out low salaries: a colonel, according to him, can earn from 30 to 19,5 thousand hryvnias (from 45 to 52 thousand rubles), but somehow it turns out that the logisticians invariably receive more. He promises to "change a lot in the minds" of his subordinates and admits that this is a "painful process." In short, the usual general's set of common phrases and good intentions.

Perhaps the most important and significant is the fact that at the end of its voluminous and detailed material, the Air Force attacks the current Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andriy Taran with furious criticism, experts who "for five years brought the Ukrainian army closer to NATO standards", and also "survived from the Ministry of Defense reformer officers, known for their pro-NATO position."

The BBC blames Tarana for the "big purge" in the Department of Internal Audit of the Ministry of Defense, as well as the liquidation of the center for defense procurement. According to the journalists, all these structures and divisions were united by the fact that "most of their specialists were trained in NATO countries at the expense of Western partners." All of them "had to do with the landmark reforms of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" that took place in recent years. At the same time, it is true, the following is not entirely clear: if the reformers and their reforms were so remarkable, where are the real results and why did the “nezalezhnoy” army slip to the current state?

In conclusion, the Air Force directly reminds Vladimir Zelensky that both Khomchak and Taran and the President of the country are responsible for everything that happens in and around the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Presumably, intending to make certain investments in the local armed forces and having quite certain types of them for their use, the "partners in NATO", first of all Great Britain, intend to ensure full control over them in the near future.

It looks like the Ukrainian military and their commander-in-chief will be taken on a short leash.
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  1. +8
    25 October 2020 15: 06
    NATO will take the Ukrainian army on a short leash?

    And probably not with the aim of getting her out of Donbass?
    1. +1
      25 October 2020 15: 35
      Is the leash long now? Apparently, this is a command "to the leg"!
      1. 0
        25 October 2020 16: 35
        Quote: BDRM 667
        NATO will take the Ukrainian army on a short leash?
        And probably not with the aim of getting her out of Donbass?

        And at the same time, NATO - even as (!) - will take army of Ukraine on a short leash precisely not with the aim of pulling the APU out of Donbass !!!
        And moreover, with the aim of directing the NATO bogey against Russia with the hands of proxy-Ukraine towards the Russian Crimea and NATO domination in the Azov and Black Seas!

        Those Ukrainians who understand this also leave the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only because of their salaries.
    2. 0
      25 October 2020 21: 43
      Quote: BDRM 667
      NATO will take the Ukrainian army on a short leash?

      And probably not with the aim of getting her out of Donbass?

      Increase combat readiness in order to re-launch the conflict. Direct dependence will allow you to have income and keep the levers of government. The worse it is for Ukrainians, the higher their dependence!
  2. BAI
    +6
    25 October 2020 15: 15
    The naval bases that are going to be built in Ilyichevsk and Nikolaev should go under the British. They are already preparing the ground for themselves.
    1. 0
      25 October 2020 15: 34
      Quote: BAI
      The naval bases that are going to be built in Ilyichevsk and Nikolaev should go under the British. They are already preparing the ground for themselves.

      They can cook, but they are unlikely to succeed. To cut short our "povorovat" lovers ..... no NATO can cope. But what about those documentaries who, as they say, signed and classified for 50 years? Rather, it will soon become clear that "pieces" are already being cut off from Ukraine and there is no longer any country
      1. -2
        25 October 2020 15: 40
        Quote: Egoza
        "pieces" are already being cut off from Ukraine and the country is no longer there

        What else will the elections taking place at the moment show ...

        What will the "green power" be faced with based on their results?

        How will the radicals behave ...
    2. 0
      25 October 2020 23: 19
      Quote: BAI
      The naval bases that are going to be built in Ilyichevsk and Nikolaev should go under the British.

      And to what extent will the naval bases of a country not belonging to the Black Sea basin comply with the 1936 Montreux Convention?
  3. +4
    25 October 2020 15: 18
    Something every time becomes more violet .. What is there and how.
  4. -1
    25 October 2020 15: 28
    Come on, on a leash, they must be taken right by the throat and pressed with all the strength, these are the Nazis, the prototype of the Nazis. Well, then run home, otherwise they will get it from both sides.
  5. Eug
    +1
    25 October 2020 15: 35
    They steal ...
  6. +1
    25 October 2020 15: 43
    Okay, they will take on a leash ... and who will feed, supply?
    So the army is a serious burden for any country if its own military-industrial complex is almost dead.
    1. +2
      25 October 2020 15: 52
      They will, like the budget, keep in a semi-faint state, so that they do not die at all, but do not wake up either!
      1. +1
        25 October 2020 16: 04
        When there are no other options for earning money, it can take a ride .... but everything is early, the quality of the contingent will not be ah. Half a gangster herd of maraders ... until the first serious skirmish, then they will just run ...
        1. +1
          25 October 2020 16: 21
          And we must watch! If the trainers think of a big dirty trick for us, then of course they will arm and train not like now! Well, our management should make CONCLUSIONS!
          1. 0
            25 October 2020 17: 55
            Come on, "trainers" are big goons, misers, and they have enough problems of their own! Schaub to prepare, equip the herd to the level of driving at least the barmaleev, these are awesome costs ... there is nothing to talk about the next level of sales. In front of a serious opponent, this is a herd of sheep !!! which even an extremely greyhound ko / Z / ate on exploits cannot bring .... they will figure it out.
            Although, for the role of schutzmans, just right ... as it was before, when their other "leader" used them.
            The mentality of traitors, BROKEN TRAITORS, you can't put it anywhere, you won't forget ...
        2. -3
          25 October 2020 18: 36
          Did you catch them by the hand in looting? I have not heard something about the court decisions against the employees of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on looting and rape of civilians.
          And we, to everyone's shame, do have it ... You can justify some colonels of the Russian army for as long as you like, but the fact was proved by the court of the Russian Federation and the punishment took effect, and before God too.
          1. +1
            25 October 2020 18: 43
            In fact, they had courts and decisions were made. A complete list .... take an interest, it will be useful.
            On the other hand, when an angry crowd of "comrades-in-arms" rushes into the court and puts everyone on the ears ...
            there is nothing special to say.
            About our justice, I do not cherish any illusions, but the power of the crowd, it is prohibitive.
            1. -1
              25 October 2020 20: 16
              Can you link to court decisions on the fact of looting in the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
              1. 0
                25 October 2020 20: 53
                It is difficult, because you have to look at the court decisions, they are in the public domain ...
                1. -2
                  1 November 2020 16: 05
                  Well, that is, there will be no proofs, I congratulate you, mister sovramshi!
                  1. 0
                    1 November 2020 16: 31
                    So I'm not interested, but once I said, I'll find ... max, until Wednesday.
              2. 0
                26 October 2020 10: 01
                Type in Yandex "court decisions on the facts of looting in the Armed Forces of Ukraine".
                1. -2
                  1 November 2020 16: 05
                  Well, that is, there will be no proofs, I congratulate you, mister sovramshi!
  7. bar
    0
    25 October 2020 16: 03
    And what, there is a leash even shorter than the one on which the whole of Ukraine is now sitting with its army?
  8. -6
    25 October 2020 16: 14
    That's right, Poroshenko created the Ukrainian army, Zelensky is destroying it ...
    If, over the past 5 years, Zelensky has not responded to the military agenda of the military registration and enlistment office, today he continues to liquidate it.
    An army that does not trust its commander-in-chief is no longer an Army ..
  9. +2
    25 October 2020 16: 19
    Awww! CIS! laughing The most independent community, the most independent states. laughing
  10. 0
    25 October 2020 16: 55
    Winter is just around the corner. An army, it is certainly an army. But she needs quilted jackets / quilted jackets / felt boots. In order not to freeze. Plus, the issue of hot food comes out. It's good to fight in the summer ... There's no need for mittens ...
    What does Comrade Zelensky think about this?
    In addition, the fleet must be provided. There are people there too.
    1. +3
      25 October 2020 17: 25
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      Winter is just around the corner. An army, it is certainly an army. But she needs quilted jackets / quilted jackets / felt boots. In order not to freeze. Plus, the issue of hot food comes out. It's good to fight in the summer ... There's no need for mittens ...
      What does Comrade Zelensky think about this?
      In addition, the fleet must be provided. There are people there too.

      Doesn't think, and to hell with him! And're coming out with this army too. People .. Yes, also people who are ready to kill us, our children, friends, relatives ... So. that other people are not ours and I don't want to worry about them. You need to worry about your own people!
      1. +2
        25 October 2020 18: 09
        I agree. I will say more - I deeply do not care about the army of the enemy state. I am a conscript of the Russian army.
        And the situation with quilted jackets and quilted jackets / supplying fighters with hot meals in our army interests me no less. In the light of the coming winter. hi
  11. +1
    25 October 2020 17: 44
    Quote: Tatiana
    domination of NATO in the Azov and Black Seas!

    Yeah, insanity is getting stronger !!! NATO domination in the Sea of ​​Azov? There probably US nuclear submarines "graze" and AUG "shoals" goes ?? Americans and others can enter the Black Sea according to the Montreux Convention and arrive there within 21 days. Now NATO domination in the Black Sea is carried out by a grouping of 0 NATO ships. "Alien" NATO ships in the Black Sea are now zero. Pretty domination.
  12. -2
    25 October 2020 17: 54
    The article is interesting, but it does not fully cover the situation. In fact, things are much worse. Alcoholism, drug addiction, non-statutory activities, looting, theft and sale of weapons, etc. flourish in ukross. There is no army, there is a gang of uniformed marauders and assassins. That is why normal people run. Many were attracted to the army by the relatively high salary and benefits for housing and communal services, which, given the current "democratic" prices, are quite a lot.
  13. 0
    25 October 2020 17: 58
    In my opinion, there is no such thing as "Ukrainian army". There are no traditions. No history. No victories. It's just a kind of community of people wearing uniforms and insignia of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and who want to receive at least some kind of pension from the state.
  14. -1
    25 October 2020 21: 59
    The author is in his repertoire. I cut out all the shortcomings from the reportage and formed an article on the results.
    It is logical of course. Not pluses and not all the same in the complex to tell. You need something warming and in your own style.
    However, the author is always the good old, traditional. You read and understand, everything is invariably with them.
    ... Previously, it was primitive - they would freeze, disintegrate, they had a couple of days to live ..
    Wait, the allies will pacify ... They are growing even in the eyes of the authors of the information war ..
  15. +16
    25 October 2020 22: 22
    "BBC" accuses Tarana and "big purge" in the Department of Internal Audit of the Ministry of Defense, as well as the liquidation of the center for defense procurement

    Strange ... the BBC has always welcomed collapse optimization in the structures of the Ministry of Defense in the post-Soviet space. What are you dissatisfied with? Applaud!

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