Soviet and Russian special forces - seventy years old

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Domestic army special forces celebrate this year's anniversary - 70 years since the official foundation. On October 24, 1950, the Minister of the Armed Forces of the USSR, Marshal of the Soviet Union, Alexander Mikhailovich Vasilevsky, signed a directive classified as "secret." The directive spoke about the creation of special purpose units (SPN) (deep reconnaissance, or special intelligence) within the Soviet armed forces. The subunits being created were planned to be used in the rear of a potential enemy.

It is for this reason that on October 24, our country celebrates the Day of Special Forces and Units (SPN). This is a professional holiday for servicemen of various special forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. At the same time, since 2015, Russia has annually celebrated the Day of Special Operations Forces (February 27).



Harbingers of modern special forces


Do not think that there were no special units in the domestic armed forces until 1950. Special detachments for operations in the rear and on enemy communications were created earlier. For example, in 1701, by order of Peter I, a special flying corps, the corvolant, was created in Russia. The purpose of the corps was to fight the enemy on the supply routes of his army, that is, to attack and sabotage behind enemy lines.

They returned to the tactics of partisan actions and the creation of flying detachments in the 1812th century - during the Patriotic War. A well-known example is the activity of a detachment under the command of Denis Davydov. Davydov's partisan detachment was formed during the Patriotic War of 50 on the initiative of the lieutenant colonel himself, who turned his thoughts to Prince Peter Bagration. Bagration approved the decision and reported on the plan to the commander-in-chief of the Russian army, Field Marshal Mikhail Kutuzov, who, although he was skeptical of the initiative, allowed the formation of the detachment, having allocated 80 Akhtyr hussars and XNUMX Don Cossacks. With these forces, Lieutenant Colonel Davydov began his famous raids.

Soviet and Russian special forces - seventy years old

An important difference from the partisan detachments spontaneously formed by the peasants was that Davydov's detachment was formed from among the military personnel of the regular army. The detachment's soldiers possessed the necessary combat skills, and the officers, primarily Davydov himself, had a wealth of combat experience. Very soon, Davydov's detachment, which was constantly growing at the expense of adjoining peasants and liberated Russian prisoners, became for the French something like a tooth in the nose. The detachment operated on enemy communications, intercepted carts with provisions and fodder, attacked small detachments of the French and artillery parks. In the period until October 23, Davydov's detachment captured approximately 3,6 thousand soldiers and officers of the Napoleonic army.

Later, special formations were used in other wars waged by Russia. Cossack plastun units were often used for operations behind enemy lines and for sabotage. The best shooters, as well as the most enduring fighters, were recruited to the scouts in those years. At that time, they played the role of modern army special forces units, conducting sabotage, reconnaissance, deep raids behind enemy lines. Plast units were most often used in the Crimean War (1853-1856) and the Turkish campaign (1877-1878).

Creation of the Soviet special forces


The Great Patriotic War showed that special forces are needed by the armed forces. It was in the first post-war years in the Soviet Union that they began their full-scale construction. According to the directive of October 24, 1950, it was proposed in the USSR as soon as possible to create special-purpose units prepared for operations deep behind enemy lines. The creation of special forces units was ordered until May 1, 1951. In accordance with the directive, it was planned to create 46 separate spetsnaz companies within the armed forces with a regular payroll of 120 people in each. Special Forces companies were to be formed in all military districts of the USSR, groups of forces, as well as on navy.


These companies were formed at the direct request of the Chief of the GRU of the General Staff, General of the Army Matvey Zakharov, and the Chief of the General Staff, General of the Army Sergei Shtemenko. The formation of the spetsnaz companies took place on a regular basis. By May 1, 1951, the Soviet armed forces already had the first special forces units with a total staffing of more than 5,5 thousand people. The personnel of separate companies of the Special Forces were recruited then from the soldiers of the army intelligence, many of whom went through the Great Patriotic War and had real combat experience. In preparing the spetsnaz companies, the experience of reconnaissance and sabotage activities accumulated by that time was very widely used. First of all, the experience of saboteurs and Soviet partisans during the war. It is noteworthy that initially in the company staffing table the position of privates was even registered as a "partisan."

All created separate companies of the Special Forces were directly subordinate to the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the General Staff. The subunits created within the Soviet armed forces in military conditions were to be involved in solving the following main tasks: organizing and conducting reconnaissance behind enemy lines, revealing the location of important objects; destroying enemy nuclear weapons and other important military installations or infrastructure; organizing and carrying out sabotage actions in the enemy's rear; the creation of insurgent (partisan) detachments; performing special tasks of the command; search and destruction of enemy saboteurs.

In 1957, separate special-purpose battalions were formed in the USSR, and in 1962, the formation of separate special-purpose brigades began as part of the districts. Throughout the entire period of the Soviet stories of our country, the composition and structure of special forces units changed many times, while the tasks solved by the units, and the very essence of their existence, remained unchanged. On a permanent basis, special forces units were widely deployed under the auspices of the GRU General Staff. At the same time, at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, their special-purpose units were at the disposal of the ground forces, airborne troops, the GRU, the Navy and the Air Force.

In total, in the 1970s-1980s, the army had 13 special forces brigades. In the same period, the special forces were used most actively, including in real combat work outside the country. Soviet special forces were present in Angola, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Vietnam, as well as Cuba. The units of the Soviet special forces also acted actively in Afghanistan during the war. As part of the Soviet contingent of troops introduced into this country, there were up to 8 special forces detachments, combined into two separate brigades.


The total number of personnel of special forces units in the USSR Armed Forces at the peak of their greatness by the beginning of the Afghan war totaled 8039 people. According to the historian Sergei Kozlov, who is studying the Soviet and Russian special forces, at that time there were 23 special forces units and formations in the USSR Armed Forces. In wartime, the number of units and formations could be increased to 66, and the total personal strength increased to 44 people.

Current state


Today, like 70 years ago, special forces units are the elite of the armed forces. In modern conditions, most of the personnel of such units are contract soldiers. As in the USSR, the largest special forces units in the Russian armed forces remain separate special-purpose brigades. Many of them already have the status of the Guards, for example, the 16th Separate Guards Special Forces Brigade in Tambov. The honorary name "Guards" was given to this brigade by the decree of the President of Russia quite recently, on January 26, 2019.

A distinctive feature of special forces units remains the best training and equipment with the most modern models weapons, military and special equipment. Today, Russian special forces are equipped with advanced sets of individual combat equipment; modern mine explosives, including remote detonation; multichannel optoelectronic observation devices, allowing to operate in night conditions and conditions of poor visibility; modern air reconnaissance systems, primarily unmanned aerial vehicles; special small arms.


The personnel of individual special forces brigades of the Russian armed forces every year practice airborne assault from helicopters and airplanes, including parachute jumps at night, into water, from high altitudes with special oxygen devices and gliding along the horizon, followed by an exit to an attack target or destination. The commandos jump a lot. According to the official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in 2019, servicemen of a separate special forces brigade in Togliatti from the Central Military District had to perform more than 10 thousand parachute jumps in a year. Jumps are performed from army helicopters aviation Mi-8 in the range of altitudes from 600 to 4000 meters and from military transport aircraft Il-76. At the same time, when performing jumps, special forces use modern Russian parachute systems D-10, as well as "Crossbow-2".

As noted in the Ministry of Defense, physical training is still of particular importance for the special forces. Much is being done to improve the stamina, agility and strength of the fighters. At the same time, each special forces soldier must perfectly master the techniques of hand-to-hand combat, which is based on elements of combat sambo, as well as such areas of martial art as jiu-jitsu and karate. Also, the special forces should be fluent in the techniques of throwing cutting and stabbing objects.


Today, the special forces are armed with modern Russian armored vehicles "Tiger" and "Typhoon", Drones "Orlan-10", elements of the equipment of the new generation of military personnel "Warrior". At the same time, during the exercises, special forces soldiers are still working out the tasks that their predecessors faced decades ago. So, as part of the exercises held in June 2020, special forces soldiers of the Central Military District repelled an attack by a sabotage and reconnaissance group on a convoy of military equipment. They also worked out in the field conditions the destruction of a mock enemy using the VSS Vintorez sniper rifle, the AS Val assault rifle and the single Pecheneg machine gun. Also, the special forces of the Central Military District worked out the organization of an ambush on a car with the capture of secret documents and a raid on the command post of a mock enemy.
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  1. +16
    24 October 2020 05: 33
    Soviet and Russian special forces are 70 years old !!!

    Happy Anniversary, dear MEN from the SOVIET and RUSSIAN special forces!
    I wish you health, success, luck and prosperity in everything! love

    1. nnm
      +10
      24 October 2020 06: 52
      3719 "Rosich" DON -100
      1. -1
        24 October 2020 15: 42
        BB operational regiment?
        1. nnm
          +2
          24 October 2020 18: 15
          Yes. Just the whole of Chechnya
          1. -1
            26 October 2020 11: 51
            Is Novocherkassk based?
            1. nnm
              0
              26 October 2020 12: 02
              More - Cossack Camps
              1. -1
                26 October 2020 12: 29
                It's familiar. From 85 to 87, the elder brother served in the construction battalion there. I visited him several times.
  2. +5
    24 October 2020 06: 07
    Happy Holidays, Men! You are the edge of the sword of the country!
  3. -6
    24 October 2020 08: 14
    Happy Holidays!
    Just don't fight against your citizens.
  4. +2
    24 October 2020 08: 35
    Congratulations on the anniversary!
  5. +2
    24 October 2020 09: 06
    I sincerely congratulate the guys worthy of respect on the anniversary and, of course, glory to the fallen heroes. Separately, I would like to congratulate the personnel of the 3rd Separate Guards Special Forces Brigade in Togliatti, as well as those who served in such a wonderful unit. Health and, of course, life to you guys.
  6. +2
    24 October 2020 09: 21
    There are many acquaintances in the 24th special brigade near Novosibirsk. Happy guys!
  7. +5
    24 October 2020 09: 32
    My CWP teacher was Lieutenant Colonel Osnaz, as it was called at that time. He was the soul of our school, he carried away the classes /// he just said what to explain to you, send us better, let's shoot. from the database ". In this way, the theory was consolidated especially clearly .. A quarter of a century has passed, and the basic concepts of pre-conscription training and the ability to disassemble --- assemble AK --- this has already been absorbed into the subcortex.
    1. +6
      24 October 2020 09: 41
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      My CWP teacher was Lieutenant Colonel Osnaz, as it was called at that time. He was the soul of our school, he carried away the classes /// he just said what to explain to you, send us better, let's shoot. from the database ". In this way, the theory was consolidated especially clearly .. A quarter of a century has passed, and the basic concepts of pre-conscription training and the ability to disassemble --- assemble AK --- this has already been absorbed into the subcortex.

      I also always remember my NVP teacher (former military man) Garkushin (heavenly kingdom for him) ..
      Shouted powerfully, but discipline was at school, not like now in schools where there are only women and Ugh damn
      I wrote for a long time that schools should involve retired former military personnel with good salary and powers .. Children are untied and impudent to hell and just mock women teachers, bringing them to tears. (Wife is a teacher, and I remember myself teaching, but left otherwise I would have strangled someone ..) angry .
      1. Alf
        +1
        24 October 2020 14: 52
        Quote: Gordei
        I wrote for a long time that schools should involve retired military personnel with good salary and authority ..

        Try, the committees of nulliparous mothers will drag you through the courts, if you look at your beloved child at least sideways. Unfortunately.
        There have already been scandals, they demand that the lessons of the CWP, where they still remain, be removed from their program - "this develops aggressiveness in children."
  8. +4
    24 October 2020 09: 43
    Well, for the Russian special forces! drinks Three cheers and a third toast STANDING without clinking glasses drinks soldier
    1. +3
      24 October 2020 10: 31
      fully support! drinks
  9. +1
    24 October 2020 10: 56
    Happy SPN! Happy holiday, brothers !!!!
  10. +3
    24 October 2020 11: 36
    All involved in the holiday drinks
  11. +1
    24 October 2020 12: 14
    Congratulations to all involved)) health, kindness and a peaceful sky!)
  12. +1
    24 October 2020 12: 31
    I don't know if our warrant officer Gavrilov is still alive ... all the same, 30 years have passed ... but I want to congratulate Him on His Holiday !!! drinks

    ... I was especially impressed by two points:

    - when he told us how his "final exams" passed (he was thrown from an airplane over the taiga with a task to get from point "A" to point "B" within a week without killing anyone along the way)
    - and when in our company there was a "wall to wall" (the "wall" "was" 15-20 seconds, until Gavrilov smeared all about 30 guys on the wall good tongue )
  13. Alf
    +3
    24 October 2020 14: 50
    Author! And weren't there special forces in the Second World War in the Red Army, the NKVD and the GRU? You so famously did not mention this period.
  14. +2
    24 October 2020 18: 04
    Happy holiday guys all .. DMB90-92 5OBSPN

    Whoever saw death, he saw us ..
    We are called special forces ....
    1. Alf
      +3
      24 October 2020 20: 34
      Happy holiday!
  15. +2
    24 October 2020 20: 26
    I could not pass by and congratulate - for the respect for the special forces is simply the highest! Happy holiday, fighters! May God grant you health and always return from battle alive !!!
  16. 0
    24 October 2020 20: 54
    Hey! I do not know anything!
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  17. +1
    24 October 2020 21: 01

    Security) Strategic Missile Forces
    1. +1
      24 October 2020 23: 17
      Quote: Cowbra
      Security) Strategic Missile Forces

      It's a little different ...
      As well as anti-sabotage units of the 12th Main Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ...
      1. 0
        25 October 2020 00: 37
        We were black, but obeyed))) I still remember who was the top
        1. 0
          25 October 2020 00: 39
          Quote: Cowbra
          I still remember who was the top

          ?????
          1. 0
            25 October 2020 00: 41
            Yeah - schA, this is not chipboard
          2. 0
            25 October 2020 00: 59
            Slightly offended. true wink
          3. 0
            25 October 2020 01: 01
            Primack we had
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  18. +1
    24 October 2020 23: 04
    Happy holiday, our dear defenders!
    Health, good luck and a peaceful sky above your head.
    We always sleep well, because we know that we have YOU.
    God bless you, and we, your rear, will always be with you and for you !!!
  19. +1
    25 October 2020 00: 03
    The starry night for the Americans was a success - it's a pity that Khabib is leaving this sport - but his words are right for all of us
  20. 0
    25 October 2020 01: 08
    [quote = Cowbra] Hey! I do not know anything!
    1. 0
      1 November 2020 23: 12
      According to the directive of the Minister of War of the USSR, Marshal of the Soviet Union A.M. Vasilevsky and Chief of the General Staff, Colonel-General S.M. Shtemenko No. Org / 395832 dated October 24, 1950 in the combined arms and mechanized armies and in military districts that did not have army units 46 separate companies of special purpose (ORSPN) of army and district subordination, each numbering about 120 people, were formed.
      Initial mission, training of subunits for deployment to the operational and strategic rear of the enemy, for the destruction of launchers and mines with nuclear weapons. Since the 60s, the tasks have changed. Companies were transformed into battalions, and from time to time into brigades of OBRSPN. With direct subordination to the chief The GRU, and through him the Chief of the General Staff of the USSR-RF Ministry of Defense. Officers for the Special Forces, were trained mainly in the RVVDK and at a separate faculty, also in Kiev, although there was a percentage from other schools.
      They have a parade of the Airborne Forces, in the Navy there is a parade of marines, but without the "Guard" badge.
      In their daily service in the towns of the PPD, especially NOT in the USSR, they mimicked other construction battalions, communications, automobile, railway troops, motorized riflemen. They have no flashy patches and names in their units, bears, tigers, panthers, eagles, scorpions, snakes, dolphins , this is not about them, they only have dry numbers with the abbreviation Spn. The headquarters of the GRU is located on ul. Grizodubova in Moscow.
      All other types of special forces of the KGB-FSB, VV-Rosgvardia (Krapoviki), the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Penitentiary Service, various security units, Spnetsnaz-VDV, DO NOT belong to the classic concept of special forces.
      For example, Spnetsnaz-VDV, is in the structure, work in the interests of the Airborne Forces, and is subordinate to the Airborne Forces.
      VV-Rosgvardia, the FSB, is an anti-terrorist special forces whose task is to neutralize the destruction of partisan movements, reconnaissance and sabotage groups and enemy detachments, the destruction of terrorists on their own territory, or on the territory of other countries, but controlled by their own army.
      Illegals are also a department of the KGB-FSB.
      Well, the GRU special forces are scouts, saboteurs, demolitionists, terrorists, initiators of the rise of partisan movements on the enemy's territory, or on our territory, but occupied by the enemy's army. They work in the interests of the Ministry of Defense. The goals are capture or destruction on the spot, on the territory controlled by the enemy of important military and political figures, the destruction of enemy headquarters, communications centers, command and control units of the enemy troops, airfields, naval bases, nuclear facilities, undermining the enemy's railway logistics. Organization of chaos in the enemy territory, organization of resistance movements to the enemy. Transmission of reconnaissance. information about the enemy to its General Staff or the headquarters of armies and fronts, although it happened and were used for tasks unusual for them, for example, as part of the OKSVA in Afghanistan, to suppress the partisan movement, and disrupt the destruction of the logistics of weapons, ammunition, detachments from the territory of Pakistan and Iran That is, they performed the role of the Internal Troops, KGB, Ministry of Internal Affairs due to the problem, weak control by the 40th Army, and only in places, the territory of Afghanistan.
      Day 24 October, this is the day of the GRU special forces. All other special forces have their own dates.
  21. +1
    25 October 2020 22: 15
    "At the same time, at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, their special-purpose units were at the disposal of the ground forces, airborne troops, the GRU, the Navy and the Air Force."
    the author, special intelligence units and divisions were only at the disposal of the Ground Forces and the Navy - I mean the MCI. There was no special intelligence in the Airborne Forces (later there was something on the base of the 45th regiment, but what they eat with, I no longer know). The GRU is the headquarters of the General Staff, there are no special forces, there are only "headquarters" ones. And the special intelligence in the Air Force is finally! good I celebrate only on November 5 - here you are celebrated by special forces, and regimental intelligence, and a military attaché, and former illegal immigrants from the GRU. This is a holiday! drinks
    1. +1
      28 October 2020 11: 26
      Quote: Doliva63
      Second, special intelligence units and subunits were only at the disposal of the Ground Forces and the Navy - I mean the MRP. There was no special intelligence in the Airborne Forces (later there was something on the base of the 45th regiment, but what they eat with, I no longer know). The GRU is the headquarters of the General Staff, there are no special forces, there are only "headquarters" ones.

      You described everything correctly - in the 5th department there was a direction of special intelligence, and there were no units of special forces of central subordination in the GRU General Staff, they were part of the district intelligence kit. But the GRU General Staff fully controlled and was responsible for the system of training special forces units and selected certain officers from them for training and other tasks. By the way, in Soviet times, officers of 3 departments of district intelligence departments were the nomenclature of the GRU General Staff, i.e. their appointment was not carried out by the command of the Ground Forces, but by the leadership of the GRU, i.e. their status was different, and the command of the districts did not have the right to appoint officers to these positions at their discretion.
      1. +1
        29 October 2020 20: 59
        Quote: ccsr
        Quote: Doliva63
        Second, special intelligence units and subunits were only at the disposal of the Ground Forces and the Navy - I mean the MRP. There was no special intelligence in the Airborne Forces (later there was something on the base of the 45th regiment, but what they eat with, I no longer know). The GRU is the headquarters of the General Staff, there are no special forces, there are only "headquarters" ones.

        You described everything correctly - in the 5th department there was a direction of special intelligence, and there were no units of special forces of central subordination in the GRU General Staff, they were part of the district intelligence kit. But the GRU General Staff fully controlled and was responsible for the system of training special forces units and selected certain officers from them for training and other tasks. By the way, in Soviet times, officers of 3 departments of district intelligence departments were the nomenclature of the GRU General Staff, i.e. their appointment was not carried out by the command of the Ground Forces, but by the leadership of the GRU, i.e. their status was different, and the command of the districts did not have the right to appoint officers to these positions at their discretion.

        You and I knew, now everyone knows laughing And at the expense of "had no right" - so they just offered those whom the GRU claimed, didn't they? Everything is in the interests of the troops, as they say drinks
        1. +2
          30 October 2020 12: 13
          Quote: Doliva63
          And at the expense of "had no right" - so they just offered those whom the GRU claimed, didn't they? Everything is in the interests of the troops, as they say

          The heads of departments were appointed by order from Moscow and they were not local cadres - that was the case in the group, at least in my time. But the officers of the department could be taken from the district (group) structures, but all the same, it was obligatory in agreement with the GRU. So the initiative of the districts was not the main one - the decision of the chiefs from the GRU was still needed.
          1. +1
            30 October 2020 19: 34
            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Doliva63
            And at the expense of "had no right" - so they just offered those whom the GRU claimed, didn't they? Everything is in the interests of the troops, as they say

            The heads of departments were appointed by order from Moscow and they were not local cadres - that was the case in the group, at least in my time. But the officers of the department could be taken from the district (group) structures, but all the same, it was obligatory in agreement with the GRU. So the initiative of the districts was not the main one - the decision of the chiefs from the GRU was still needed.

            Well, a lot depended on the initiative of the army's chief intelligence officer. If he has an intelligent officer whom he would like to see in his department, nothing prevents him from "promoting" him. In compliance with all formalities, of course. At 20 GvOA I had an "operator", he said that he himself had recently been from the troops, from our own army. As the saying goes, it is not the gods who burn the pots. drinks
            1. +2
              31 October 2020 19: 11
              Quote: Doliva63
              Well, much depended on the initiative of the army's chief intelligence officer. If he has an intelligent officer whom he would like to see in his department, nothing prevents him from "promoting" him.

              With this I completely agree, the army chief was a lower rank and he could move anyone in the army himself - as a rule, the chief of the district intelligence gave him such a right. But the chief of intelligence of the army himself was appointed only by agreement with the GRU General Staff, as far as I remember - this was also a nomenclature position.By the way, then it was practiced to appoint a group of officers from the troops to the posts of the RCRC of the Republic of Uzbekistan, if they saw that this was a worthy specialist - I am many of such I've seen.
              1. +1
                31 October 2020 21: 27
                Quote: ccsr
                Quote: Doliva63
                Well, much depended on the initiative of the army's chief intelligence officer. If he has an intelligent officer whom he would like to see in his department, nothing prevents him from "promoting" him.

                With this I completely agree, the army chief was a lower rank and he could move anyone in the army himself - as a rule, the chief of the district intelligence gave him such a right. But the chief of intelligence of the army himself was appointed only by agreement with the GRU General Staff, as far as I remember - this was also a nomenclature position.By the way, then it was practiced to appoint a group of officers from the troops to the posts of the RCRC of the Republic of Uzbekistan, if they saw that this was a worthy specialist - I am many of such I've seen.

                The army's chief intelligence officers in the GSVG are already unambiguously "nomenclature" in the good sense of the word. In the districts - depending on the district, but there were almost no such in the absence of armies within the Union in most districts. By the way, do not you remember the deputy commander of the 8th Guards Army in the 89th? Once we drank vodka with him, he said that he used to be illegal. Here, like, "got" to the general. GSVG was a wonderland. laughing Do you remember the story of the Olga bunker? It is NECESSARY to make films and write books about this Group. drinks
                1. +2
                  1 November 2020 09: 58
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  By the way, do not you remember the deputy commander of the 8th Guards Army in the 89th? Once we drank vodka with him, he said that he used to be illegal. Here, like, "got" to the general.

                  Most likely there was a case of betrayal, and he indirectly lit up, so they decided to give him the opportunity to prove himself in another field. Although, to be honest, the GRU does not scatter such personnel, so most likely the reason could be different.
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Do you remember the story of the Olga bunker?

                  Honestly, I don't remember - what is this story?
                  I witnessed what is described in Pushkin's book - this is what I found and remember this story well.
                  1. 0
                    1 November 2020 20: 39
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    By the way, do not you remember the deputy commander of the 8th Guards Army in the 89th? Once we drank vodka with him, he said that he used to be illegal. Here, like, "got" to the general.

                    Most likely there was a case of betrayal, and he indirectly lit up, so they decided to give him the opportunity to prove himself in another field. Although, to be honest, the GRU does not scatter such personnel, so most likely the reason could be different.
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Do you remember the story of the Olga bunker?

                    Honestly, I don't remember - what is this story?
                    I witnessed what is described in Pushkin's book - this is what I found and remember this story well.

                    You guessed right about the deputy commander - they were "leaked" by a defector from the KGB. And they sent him to the troops "for the general" - so he was very old, he would have gone to the GRU as a colonel. I think it's the right decision.
                    What story from Pushkin's book do you mean ?:
                    1. +1
                      2 November 2020 12: 22
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      What kind of story from Pushkin's book do you mean?

                      Everything that happened to the defector and V. I. Zherdev.
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      And they sent him to the troops "for the general" - so he was very old, he would have gone to the GRU as a colonel.

                      This is for sure - such an opportunity was given to those who had proven themselves well, but there were no positions for them, so they were offered this option to choose from. By the way, Hero of the Soviet Union I.I. Lezzhov received the rank of general, although he was a military attaché in Washington with the rank of colonel. Read his book "Distant Intelligence" - a very interesting and truthful book about the war and how he served in the GRU. I think you will not regret it - take my word for it.
                      1. 0
                        3 November 2020 16: 33
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        What kind of story from Pushkin's book do you mean?

                        Everything that happened to the defector and V. I. Zherdev.
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        And they sent him to the troops "for the general" - so he was very old, he would have gone to the GRU as a colonel.

                        This is for sure - such an opportunity was given to those who had proven themselves well, but there were no positions for them, so they were offered this option to choose from. By the way, Hero of the Soviet Union I.I. Lezzhov received the rank of general, although he was a military attaché in Washington with the rank of colonel. Read his book "Distant Intelligence" - a very interesting and truthful book about the war and how he served in the GRU. I think you will not regret it - take my word for it.

                        Thanks for the "tip", I will choose the time and I will definitely read it! hi
  22. 0
    28 October 2020 12: 16
    I am indebted to spetsnaz for life for my military career. Back in 1983, at the training camp of the "partisans" in Chuchkago, I was assigned a VUS - deputy. battalion commander in the VDP. This opened the gates for me to enter the army in this specialty. Soon I became the beginning, PDS of the air regiment. At the end of the service, for 12 years, he trained the chiefs of the PDS of aviation units at the Central Officer Courses. Graduated 220 people. For all the time - only two minor injuries among the "cadets". (after recovery, they returned to their posts).
    Special forces soldiers, Happy Holidays to all of you! Kindness and courage!
    Sincerely yours soldier
    1. 0
      29 October 2020 21: 07
      Quote: K-36
      I am indebted to spetsnaz for life for my military career. Back in 1983, at the training camp of the "partisans" in Chuchkago, I was assigned a VUS - deputy. battalion commander in the VDP. This opened the gates for me to enter the army in this specialty. Soon I became the beginning, PDS of the air regiment. At the end of the service, for 12 years, he trained the chiefs of the PDS of aviation units at the Central Officer Courses. Graduated 220 people. For all the time - only two minor injuries among the "cadets". (after recovery, they returned to their posts).
      Special forces soldiers, Happy Holidays to all of you! Kindness and courage!
      Sincerely yours soldier

      An amazing zigzag of life, however! Head of the PDS regiment - flight position. Well, it was like that in the Soviet Union.
  23. +1
    1 November 2020 23: 01
    According to the directive of the Minister of War of the USSR, Marshal of the Soviet Union A.M. Vasilevsky and Chief of the General Staff, Colonel-General S.M. Shtemenko No. Org / 395832 dated October 24, 1950 in the combined arms and mechanized armies and in military districts that did not have army units 46 separate companies of special purpose (ORSPN) of army and district subordination, each numbering about 120 people, were formed.
    Initial mission, training of subunits for deployment to the operational and strategic rear of the enemy, for the destruction of launchers and mines with nuclear weapons. Since the 60s, the tasks have changed. Companies were transformed into battalions, and from time to time into brigades of OBRSPN. With direct subordination to the chief The GRU, and through him the Chief of the General Staff of the USSR-RF Ministry of Defense. Officers for the Special Forces, were trained mainly in the RVVDK and at a separate faculty, also in Kiev, although there was a percentage from other schools.
    They have a parade of the Airborne Forces, in the Navy there is a parade of marines, but without the "Guard" badge.
    In their daily service in the towns of the PPD, especially NOT in the USSR, they mimicked other construction battalions, communications, automobile, railway troops, motorized riflemen. They have no flashy patches and names in their units, bears, tigers, panthers, eagles, scorpions, snakes, dolphins , this is not about them, they only have dry numbers with the abbreviation Spn. The headquarters of the GRU is located on ul. Grizodubova in Moscow.
    All other types of special forces of the KGB-FSB, VV-Rosgvardia (Krapoviki), the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Penitentiary Service, various security units, Spnetsnaz-VDV, DO NOT belong to the classic concept of spetsnaz. subordination of the Airborne Forces.
    VV-Rosgvardia, the FSB, is an anti-terrorist special forces whose task is to neutralize the destruction of partisan movements, reconnaissance and sabotage groups and enemy detachments, the destruction of terrorists on their own territory, or on the territory of other countries, but controlled by their own army.
    Well, the GRU special forces are scouts, saboteurs, demolitionists, terrorists, initiators of the rise of partisan movements on the enemy's territory, or on our territory, but occupied by the enemy's army. They work in the interests of the Ministry of Defense. The goals are capture or destruction on the spot, on the territory controlled by the enemy of important military and political figures, the destruction of enemy headquarters, communication centers, command and control centers of the enemy troops, airfields, naval bases, nuclear facilities, undermining the activities of the enemy's railway logistics. Organization of chaos on enemy territory, organization of resistance movements to the enemy. Transfer of reconnaissance. information about the enemy to its General Staff or the headquarters of armies and fronts, although it happened and were used for tasks unusual for them, for example, as part of the OKSVA in Afghanistan, to suppress the partisan movement, and disrupt the destruction of the logistics of weapons, ammunition, detachments from the territory of Pakistan and Iran That is, they performed the role of the Internal Troops, KGB, Ministry of Internal Affairs due to the problem, weak control by the 40th Army, territoryAfghanistan.
    Day 24 October, this is the day of the GRU special forces. All other special forces have their own dates.
  24. +1
    8 November 2020 00: 19
    Happy holiday, our specialists are the most powerful! bully
  25. 0
    27 November 2020 06: 50
    Soviet special forces or modern, which is better?
    Soviet special forces could, too, what can modern special forces do right now? could more? now no special forces can do what the early special forces could
  26. 0
    1 January 2021 23: 27
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic5Z269t87U&t=1938s
    154 OOSpN MusBat Kholbaev Khabibjan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErB3uTfh64&t=344s
    Afghanistan. "Muslim Battalion"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU--Ymzuv98&t=240s
    "Muslim battalion". The assault on Amin's palace

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOAwra9-zlE&t=386s
    Afghanistan 1979 1989 Storming of Amin's Palace START OF THE WAR


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2GE11QR6QU&t=302s
    Army Legends Boris Kerimbayev

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNwqetXWzSU&t=275s
    Film 177 detachment from Kapchagai to Kabul

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR8KrY4RYLg
    To the Panjshir King.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arvNFohbWIM
    Kerimbayev and Kholbaev are visiting. Almaty, 15.01.18

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyPRNiXCwaI&t=74s
    Songs of Afgan. "Muslim battalion" T
  27. 0
    5 January 2021 18: 00
    Maybe I don't understand something in this life. Can you explain please. What does an oath mean for a warrior? Was there any special forces in the USSR? Judging by the events of 1993, the Soviet special forces did not exist in principle. In his place was a real foreign agent. Alpha and Vympel took an active part in the destruction of the USSR. What kind of special forces is this? Who destroys his country. Can such people be considered defenders of the Fatherland? Warriors? Do you really think that all your exploits in organizing Russia's shameful defeat in the Cold War have been forgotten? A defeat that Russia has not known since its birth. Here I read all your comments. And I cannot understand. Where were all of you Soviet special forces in 1993? Where was the Soviet special forces in 1993? I will answer. Helped the Americans to win the Cold War over Russia.
  28. 0
    9 January 2021 11: 09
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic5Z269t87U&t=1938s
    154 OOSpN MusBat Kholbaev Khabibjan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErB3uTfh64&t=344s
    Afghanistan. "Muslim Battalion"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU--Ymzuv98&t=240s
    "Muslim battalion". The assault on Amin's palace

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOAwra9-zlE&t=386s
    Afghanistan 1979 1989 Storming of Amin's Palace START OF THE WAR


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2GE11QR6QU&t=302s
    Army Legends Boris Kerimbayev

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNwqetXWzSU&t=275s
    Film 177 detachment from Kapchagai to Kabul

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR8KrY4RYLg
    To the Panjshir King.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arvNFohbWIM
    Kerimbayev and Kholbaev are visiting. Almaty, 15.01.18

    https://thelib.ru/books/eduard_belyaev/musulmanskiy_batalon-read.html
    Eduard Belyaev
    Muslim battalion



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyPRNiXCwaI&t=74s
    Songs of Afgan. "Muslim battalion" T