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"We are not going to ask permission from the United States": Erdogan spoke about the tests of the S-400 air defense system

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"We are not going to ask permission from the United States": Erdogan spoke about the tests of the S-400 air defense system

Turkey does not intend to ask the United States for permission to test the S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems purchased from Russia. This was stated by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


Commenting on the statement of the US State Department spokesman Morgan Ortagus, in which the United States threatened "in the strongest possible way" to condemn Ankara's actions if the information about the testing of the S-400 air defense system is confirmed, Erdogan confirmed that tests were being carried out in the area of ​​Sinop in the north of the country from 13 to 17 October and said that Turkey is not going to ask permission from the United States.

Yes, tests have been carried out in Sinop, are being carried out. And we're not going to ask permission from the United States, whether we can do it or not. Hence, these gentlemen are concerned that there is weaponowned by Russia

- he told reporters, stressing that Ankara is "determined" and will "move on, as planned."

At the same time, Erdogan recalled that Greece, which is also a NATO member, has been in service for several years with S-300 air defense systems, also Russian-made, and no one asks them any questions.

Greece has S-300 systems and they use them. Does the US say something about this?

- said Erdogan.

Earlier, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said that the Russian anti-aircraft system will be used independently of NATO systems.

The S-400 will not be integrated into NATO's command infrastructure. They will be involved independently

- he explained.
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  1. MTN
    MTN 23 October 2020 16: 11
    10
    "We are not going to ask permission from the United States": Erdogan

    Man !!! He put it specifically to the West. bully By the way, Putin also noted this in a recent meeting that it is pleasant to deal with Erdogan. Something they still definitely muddied ............
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 23 October 2020 16: 14
      +4
      Man !!! He put it specifically to the West
      Only the second state gate (with the participation of the states) will he no longer survive
      1. MTN
        MTN 23 October 2020 16: 22
        +1
        Quote: marchcat
        Only the second state gate (with the participation of the states) will he no longer survive

        Are you sure there will be a coup? Those who arranged first, he uprooted everyone.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 23 October 2020 16: 53
          +9
          Quote: MTN
          Are you sure there will be a coup?

          Definitely yes, at the earliest opportunity.
          Quote: MTN
          he uprooted everyone.

          They will buy new ones. yes
      2. halpat
        halpat 23 October 2020 17: 57
        0
        Quote: marchcat
        Man !!! He put it specifically to the West

        And to the East, and to the South and ... to the North, odd as it may sound in the comments to this article ... and in the light of yesterday's speech by the darkest in the well-known "discussion" club.
        laughing
      3. Lesorub
        Lesorub 23 October 2020 18: 06
        0
        Quote: marchcat
        Man !!! He put it specifically to the West
        Only the second state gate (with the participation of the states) will he no longer survive

        The striped ones will no longer invest in a new coup in Turkey - the sultan can simply drink "the wrong tea" - it is too self-reliant and an irritant.
    2. deniso
      deniso 23 October 2020 16: 23
      +9
      Thus, it becomes clear whose aviation Erdoggan is afraid of.
    3. Astra55
      Astra55 23 October 2020 16: 55
      13
      Quote: MTN
      Man !!! He put it specifically to the West

      The fact is that he "put" not only to the West, but also to the north, south and east.
      Whose Crimea? Of course Turkish! yes
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 23 October 2020 17: 54
        +7
        Quote: Astra55
        Whose Crimea? Of course Turkish!

        The status of Crimea is spelled out in the Kuchuk-Kainardzhi peace treaty between Turkey and Russia in 1774.
        The fact that today Ankara does not recognize it as Russian makes us neither hot nor cold. In turn, we also do not recognize the occupied part of Crete as Turkish.
        1. Egor53
          Egor53 24 October 2020 10: 12
          +1
          "We also do not recognize the occupied part of Crete as Turkish."
          Not Crete, but Cyprus.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 24 October 2020 10: 16
            0
            Quote: Egor53
            "We also do not recognize the occupied part of Crete as Turkish."
            Not Crete, but Cyprus.

            That's right, colleague, I admit the cant, Cyprus will be right. Wrong hi
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 23 October 2020 17: 06
      +1
      So, it is not Greece that "envies" the Bosporus and Dardonella straits! Therefore, to the Turks and increased attention!
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 October 2020 17: 15
        +8
        Quote: Thrifty
        So, it is not Greece that "envies" the Bosporus and Dardonella straits! Therefore, to the Turks and increased attention!

        Increased attention to the Turks because the IMF has already bought Greece - they owe three times more than the whole of Greece with its statues and Acropolis costs. That's about Greece and no one worries. And Erdogan put not only on NATO, but also (which is a much more terrible sin for the West) on the IMF. And he is “to blame” for America not because he has Russian missiles. The fact that, unlike Greece, Turkey does not want to drive in loans for 3 generations ahead. This is a sin, so a sin ...
    5. Clear
      Clear 23 October 2020 18: 02
      +4
      Quote: MTN
      "We are not going to ask permission from the United States": Erdogan

      Man !!! He put it specifically to the West. bully By the way, Putin also noted this in a recent meeting that it is pleasant to deal with Erdogan. Something they still definitely muddied ............

      As soon as the well-being of the United States, from the behavior of Turkey, is under real threat, then, I assure you, we will not recognize Tayyip Erdogan laughing
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 October 2020 23: 30
        +1
        Quote: Clear
        As soon as the well-being of the United States, from the behavior of Turkey, is under real threat, then, I assure you, we will not recognize Tayyip Erdogan

        Or we will not see.
        1. Clear
          Clear 24 October 2020 19: 05
          +2
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          Quote: Clear
          As soon as the well-being of the United States, from the behavior of Turkey, is under real threat, then, I assure you, we will not recognize Tayyip Erdogan

          Or we will not see.

          Precisely said!
    6. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 October 2020 18: 11
      -6
      I noticed an interesting manner of Azertrolling - to admire Erdi noisily (well, of course - an ally of the hunchbacked, of course), and then add a remark, licking Comrade Putin, that he, he himself, also has a high opinion of the Turkish partner. An interesting methodology is to throw on the VO the idea that Putin and the Sultan "have muddied something together." What, do you have to promote your Azerophilia on this site with caution? laughing
      1. SSR
        SSR 23 October 2020 19: 30
        +2
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        admire Erdi noisily (well, of course - an ally of the hunchbacked, of course), and immediately add a remark, licking comrade Putin

        Yes, just before the Turks have always been a bargaining chip for the West, how many times they were incited and how many times they were thrown, and never an Arab with a Turk, like us, will not be brothers to the Anglo-Saxons.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 October 2020 19: 54
          -1
          ... never an Arab with a Turk, like us, will not be brothers to the Anglo-Saxons.

          And what, according to this logic, should we fraternize with the Turks, Arabs and Persians? Like, 'the enemy of my enemy ...'?
          Union experience taught nothing?
          Or what, mentally we are closer to the Turks than to the Anglo-Saxons?
          1. SSR
            SSR 24 October 2020 00: 50
            0
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            And what, according to this logic, we

            Stop! This is your logic. I did not write about fraternization, and I do not need to attribute anything else to me.
            Awesome logic you have.
    7. Hypertension
      Hypertension 23 October 2020 21: 06
      0
      Quote: MTN
      Man !!! He put it specifically to the West.

      No matter how the West puts on him ... Still, it is too early to write off the West and the new Osman runs the risk of shocking the tomatoes. Moreover, the sultan is trying to get into the sphere of interests of Russia ... he may eat the fish, but how will his fate develop ...
    8. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 24 October 2020 03: 40
      -1
      Quote: MTN
      He put it specifically to the West

      More specifically - on his "helmsman". Hmm, literally today on a nearby branch I noted that many ill-wishers blame Trump for the fact that under him the world stopped reckoning with mattresses, veiled or openly sending them to ... hmm ... well, say, to the Grand Canyon.
      And Erdogan is a cunning demon, holding his nose to the wind, instantly catching new smells in the world kitchen. It is understandable that he has a foolish ambition, but he unambiguously calculated the probable consequences of the demarche with regard to his SONATNIKS and concluded that “they have no methods against Kostya Saprykin”.
      As a result, we have another X32 bolt on the table in the oval office. laughing
  2. MTN
    MTN 23 October 2020 16: 14
    -1
    At the same time, Erdogan recalled that Greece, which is also a NATO member, has been in service for several years with S-300 air defense systems, also Russian-made, and no one asks them any questions.

    Erdogan is speaking correctly. He understands that the West is worried that Turkey will strengthen its air defense and a better system. And who owns the sky, he owns the battle. So man Erdogan. He must understand that they can turn from potential friends into potential enemies. The war in Karabakh showed how important it is to have a powerful, correct, echeloned air defense system.
  3. paul3390
    paul3390 23 October 2020 16: 14
    +7
    Of course, they will not be integrated - the S-400 was taken for that, so that if something happens, there would be something to land the flyers of our dear NATO partners. A sort of insurance against cute things Western-type allies .. And then you never know what they will climb into their heads .. So the purchase is frankly anti-Western, which is why the bourgeoisie are raging ..
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 October 2020 18: 14
      -3
      Quote: paul3390
      Of course they will not be integrated - the S-400 was taken for that

      in case of exclusion from NATO)))
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 23 October 2020 18: 14
      -2
      It remains to see whose S-400 flyers will be the first to "land" NATO or Russian
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 October 2020 18: 29
        -5
        Quote: syndicalist
        It remains to see whose S-400 flyers will be the first to "land" NATO or Russian

        most likely draws. The S-400 is a policy tool. So far, he "works" in this field. But the ability to shoot down "letaki" has not yet been demonstrated)
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 October 2020 16: 17
    +2
    Greece C300 has why the United States is so up in arms against Turkey. Or is Turkey more important than Greece. What in this undercover struggle I don’t know? recourse
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 23 October 2020 16: 25
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Greece C300 has why the United States is so up in arms against Turkey. Or is Turkey more important than Greece. What in this undercover struggle I don’t know? recourse

      Maybe because Turkey holds the straits, and the States want to run this "castle"?
    2. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 16: 47
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Greece C300 has why the United States is so up in arms against Turkey. Or is Turkey more important than Greece. What in this undercover struggle I don’t know? recourse

      "hamster" is not tame
    3. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 24 October 2020 11: 04
      +1
      Greece C300 has why the United States is up in arms against Turkey.

      Advertising for rockets. The money for the missiles is from Russia, not from America. The West is trying to force Turkey to buy weapons only from the West. Just a business.
  5. NF68
    NF68 23 October 2020 16: 28
    +1
    Few of the US vassals would dare to say this.
  6. the Saint
    the Saint 23 October 2020 16: 30
    -1
    Still, I would have taken at least a bit of a gaz truck from Gazprom (instead of the American one), promised not to shoot down our planes anymore, but did not put a spoke in the wheels of our national leader in Syria, Libya, Karabakh .. Then the price would not have been for the Turkish "dear friend"
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 23 October 2020 16: 35
      -3
      Quote: el Santo
      Yes, he did not put a spoke in the wheels of our national leader in Syria, Libya, Karabakh ..

      Zelensky or what? I understood! Soros!
    2. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 16: 46
      -1
      Quote: el Santo
      Still, I would have taken at least a bit of a gaz truck from Gazprom (instead of the American one), promised not to shoot down our planes anymore, but did not put a spoke in the wheels of our national leader in Syria, Libya, Karabakh .. Then the price would not have been for the Turkish "dear friend"

      Do not suffer for gas))
      For lighters, enough for everyone))
      1. the Saint
        the Saint 23 October 2020 17: 56
        -2
        Yeah, there will be more for grateful descendants, like oil along with debts and instead of money in the treasury and in the funds of "future generations" and "national welfare".
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 17: 59
          0
          We care about descendants?))
          Either about the people, now about politics, especially foreign.
          Can we eat ischo? Not?
          Catheter to help!))
          1. the Saint
            the Saint 23 October 2020 18: 09
            -5
            The soul hurts for everyone. And the other day I was worried about the security forces, I could not even eat: would they increase the length of service by 5 years, as they did to a civilian, would they reduce the number, would they cut pensions, indexing only to the level of inflation ...
            1. The Siberian barber
              The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 20: 14
              0
              Gain weight - we ourselves, without you, how - we ourselves will survive our adversity)
              I agree that there is plenty of shit, but this is ours, not yours ..
              For example, I don’t care that a Polish farmer is malnourished / overeats ... and with my "feelings", I don’t go there, they will figure it out ...
              1. the Saint
                the Saint 23 October 2020 20: 42
                0
                Quote: The Siberian Barber
                but this is ours, not yours ..

                and how can I separate mine if I was born in Leningrad and still live in Petersburg?
                1. The Siberian barber
                  The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 21: 36
                  -2
                  Then, frenzied criticism, very appropriate in places, should not turn into frenzied diarrhea, sorry)
                  "This is my guano" and I myself will deal with THIS, not stupidly messing up, based on the sets of mass media
                  Do you really think that the Dutchman is completely happy about what is happening in the country ???
                  Can't eat ??)))
                  Or our BDSM FSE, from the time of Dostoevsky ?? Even before !! When Russian problems are PROBLEMS, but the rest do not? .. Or is it not democratic to discuss when the "abrek" is being driven for 100 km. TO THE DENTIST, but a "true Aryan" cannot even dream ... yes, let's lingering ourselves !!! @ maybe good? Maybe passed ???
                  There are many shoals, and we must fight with them, I do not argue, BUT, do not trample yourself in guano !! And do not trample the COUNTRY! @@
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 23 October 2020 16: 50
      +3
      TANAPA has the same problems as Gazprom in Turkey. Europe has already bought gas more than in 19 year. The Chinese have requested to increase the capacity of Power of Siberia by 20%. Everyone is trying to buy LNG. So Novatek has a share, even in the UAE they have delivered a batch. , here men are not bastard.
      1. the Saint
        the Saint 23 October 2020 18: 05
        -4
        Quote: tralflot1832
        The Chinese requested to increase the productivity of the Power of Siberia by 20%

        According to the data of the customs services of Russia and China, to which the Interfax agency refers on the topic of increasing supplies by 20%, the price of supplies dropped to $ 144 per thousand cubic meters. In the second and first quarters, it was at $ 182 and $ 202, respectively.

        And did you earn a lot on that gas?
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 23 October 2020 21: 07
          -1
          So we now have a lot of gas pipelines. In October, the price jumped at European hubs by 170% and now it is more than 170%. $ 170 per 1000 cubic meters. Russian proverb is a spoonful to dinner, but I hope you know. When the gas was less than $ 100 in Europe, China I bought us in the second quarter, as you write by interfax, $ 182. Now you can drive to Europe. I pay 6 kopecks per cubic meter, and how much are you in Ukraine? Not only Gazprom are alive. American customs gives the figure for oil already more than 2,5 billion Here are the sanctions. And where will you get gas, again on the reverse? Near the Rybachy Peninsula, to the east, what did Novotek have? We are no longer dependent on the Norgs. A dollar to a dollar, I look at the payroll and I have a good salary! ! My advice, do not count other people's money, bit the hand of the giver, now earn yourself.
          1. the Saint
            the Saint 23 October 2020 22: 12
            -1
            Quote: tralflot1832
            So we now have a lot of gas pipelines. In October, the price jumped at European hubs by 170% and now it is more than 170%. $ 170 per 1000 cubic meters. Russian proverb is a spoonful to dinner, but I hope you know. When the gas was less than $ 100 in Europe, China I bought us in the second quarter, as you write by interfax, $ 182. Now you can drive to Europe. I pay 6 kopecks per cubic meter, and how much are you in Ukraine? Not only Gazprom are alive. American customs gives the figure for oil already more than 2,5 billion Here are the sanctions. And where will you get gas, again on the reverse? Near the Rybachy Peninsula, to the east, what did Novotek have? We are no longer dependent on the Norgs. A dollar to a dollar, I look at the payroll and I have a good salary! ! My advice, do not count other people's money, bit the hand of the giver, now earn yourself.

            I understood little from the victorious reports about the price of gas and oil at hubs and in Ukraine, but fortunately, my house in St. Petersburg is not supplied with gas.
            And I, too (although I am not a state employee), fortunately, managed to escape from the ranks of the middle class with its 17 sput income.
  7. maktub
    maktub 23 October 2020 16: 40
    -4
    Here's someone with Faberge everything is fine laughing
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 October 2020 18: 33
      -5
      Quote: maktub
      Here's someone with Faberge everything is fine

      Why didn't you admire the strength of his "Faberge" when he dumped our "drying"?
      1. maktub
        maktub 23 October 2020 18: 44
        0
        Do not twist, you understand in what context this post
  8. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 16: 44
    +3
    A statement by a strong leader pursuing an independent policy of his country. To what / where, in this context, the question is secondary
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 23 October 2020 17: 00
      0
      I set the height limiters on the bridges over the Bosphorus 10 meters down, and in general I became a sultan. good
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 17: 12
        +1
        Mines, with a pilot, cheaper))
        This is in the near term)
        Next, sexual fantasies))
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 23 October 2020 21: 56
          +1
          That is what naval education means. And I, all the old fashioned ramming. hi
          1. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 21: 59
            +1
            Now winter road, on the nose ....)))
  9. Alien From
    Alien From 23 October 2020 17: 07
    +2
    The sultan is cool, but the mattresses are trickier.
  10. Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 23 October 2020 17: 11
    +4
    An amazing character is Erdogan. To swell with all the neighbors and not so much - you need to be able to.
    1. the Saint
      the Saint 23 October 2020 18: 00
      -1
      There is a character more abruptly who managed to "swell" not only with neighbors, but, in fact, with the whole world.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 23 October 2020 19: 02
        0
        Quote: el Santo
        There is a character more abruptly who managed to "swell" not only with neighbors, but, in fact, with the whole world.

        Citizen s ukraYny soapy, you what cares about Russia ... From the experiences of that and look, diarrhea on a nervous basis will attack ... Take stopdiar!
        1. the Saint
          the Saint 23 October 2020 20: 48
          -4
          Quote: 30 vis
          Citizen of Ukraine is soapy, what do you care about Russia?

          In Ukraine lives (according to the zeroed national leader) a fraternal people, to whom I have no questions.
          On the contrary, this is his claim to me, because it was as if I (in the person of Russia) chopped off a piece of territory from him in violation of international treaties, and unleashed a war on his territory, for which he gave grounds for hostility.
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 23 October 2020 21: 27
            +1
            We did not ask you to love Russia. Your love for us is not a problem. And if you do not like Russia. Then there is a road (see Cord's song "Road".) Gentlemen
          2. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 23 October 2020 22: 12
            -1
            Answer me, born in Leningrad, SHO are so tormented by the problems of the Crimea ???))
            In DLT, there were no such games!)))))
            1. the Saint
              the Saint 25 October 2020 13: 23
              0
              Crimea stubbornly, again and again comes into my pocket for subsidies and subsidies. Not to mention the international sanctions he caused and the "wise" Putin counter-sanctions, which are emptying my wallet even more actively than the sanctions.
              Just because. I don't give a damn about other people's pockets.
      2. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 23 October 2020 20: 01
        +1
        Uh, as you described Donald Fredovich.
  11. Gordei
    Gordei 23 October 2020 17: 15
    +3
    The S-400 will not be integrated into NATO's command infrastructure. They will be involved independently

    Erdogan's insurance policy if the US and others decide to make another coup
    Heather Rajep
  12. Alexander Suvorov_2
    Alexander Suvorov_2 23 October 2020 17: 37
    0
    So the Turkic Fuhrer is growing up ...
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 23 October 2020 18: 17
      0
      Quote: Alexander Suvorov_2
      So the Turkic Fuhrer is growing up ...

      And two Fuhrer neighbors rarely get along. What we are seeing.
  13. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 23 October 2020 18: 06
    0
    Greece has S-300 systems and they use them. Does the US say something about this?
    they do not say anything because Greece provided its S-300 to everyone in a row for study, for training aviation to overcome air defense, etc. the sale of the S-300 to Greece turned out to be a concrete set-up for us and gave a lot of useful material to our "partners", I really hope this will not happen with Turkey. Although how can you guarantee something? Suppose we reached an agreement with Erdogan, so in a year another will take him, as they have already tried, and in his place they will put their own pro-American, and then what will happen to the effectiveness of our S-400? In a couple of years it will be studied up and down and will be easy to overcome. I think the sale to China and India is relatively safe and justified.
  14. Khrundy Kabanovich
    Khrundy Kabanovich 23 October 2020 18: 56
    +2
    Quote: MTN
    "We are not going to ask permission from the United States": Erdogan

    Man !!! He put it specifically to the West. bully By the way, Putin also noted this in a recent meeting that it is pleasant to deal with Erdogan. Something they still definitely muddied ............

    Erdogan is a specific man, no doubt about it.
    But, it seems to me, it has zapadlo to sing the praises of this citizen, remembering our deceased pilot.
    Not all opponents of our enemies should be unconditionally appointed as our allies
  15. Oleg Kievlyanin
    Oleg Kievlyanin 23 October 2020 19: 04
    +1
    Erdogan is still that cunning beast on his own mind, but he is not an ally, as VLADIMIR Ilyich said - fellow traveler, he has his own plans and interests, somewhere we talk and together solve some problem, but for the most part he is an enemy
  16. pexotinec
    pexotinec 23 October 2020 19: 14
    0
    Well, there are offshore companies in Greece.
  17. Gunther
    Gunther 23 October 2020 20: 08
    0
    there is an object of politics there is a subject, definitely Turkey, its leader is a subject, unlike many ...
  18. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 24 October 2020 07: 52
    0
    Quote: marchcat
    Man !!! He put it specifically to the West
    Only the second state gate (with the participation of the states) will he no longer survive

    GDP will not warn for sure