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What if it's a mistake? Not damned or forgotten

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Save Sergeant Gavrilyuk



Three quarters of a century have passed since the war. We sometimes forget about many of those who fought with the enemy. We don't remember the heroes of the Soviet Union, but those who were awarded other awards somehow merge in our memory. With the memory of very recent wars, things, alas, are not much better.

In the 1980s, border guards in Afghanistan performed a particularly important task. Once a terrible tragedy happened there. All border warriors know about it.

On November 22, 1985, 23 fighters with officers Vladimir Roslov and Anatoly Naumov, according to the order received, went on a mission after lunch.


It happened right here, near Afrij village

It was already getting dark in the mountains when they approached the Afrij village. Here the battle with the dushmans took place. Perhaps there was a mistake in something that no one wants to admit, and here is its price: nineteen dead, two seriously wounded, and only four managed to return to the location of the outpost surviving.

They will all go together in the night after the bleeding junior sergeant Vladimir Gavrilyuk. The killed soldiers lay on the mountain terraces for two nights and one day.


They were buried in the cities and towns from where they were called. All were posthumously awarded the Orders of the Red Banner and the Red Star. The wounded Private Vyacheslav Deriglazov and Junior Sergeant Vladimir Gavrilyuk, awarded the Orders of the Red Banner, recovered and returned home as heroes.

But those four who survived, privates Oleg Vasilyuk, Vitaly Lazarev, Sergei Borozdin and Sergei Korsakov, were also in battle and survived. They were not awarded! Why? Then no one really understood this, and it was not allowed to write about the tragedy. The first material about the battle was published only in 2001 in the newspaper Literaturnaya Rossiya.

Thus, the true truth was revealed to the relatives of the victims, and even then not all. And in November 1985, they often found out about the death of their relatives only on the day when a zinc coffin with the body of their son was brought into their house. Later, awards were also handed out in silence, without special words and honors: put a box with the order in your hands, and go!

In 2016, an initiative group of veterans-border guards made a decision to create an international project "We Remember 22.11.85/22.11.85/XNUMX". A website www.XNUMX.milportal.ru was created with the sponsorship of one of the veterans of the Red Banner Eastern Border District.

Soon, letters were prepared and sent to the presidents of the states of Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, as well as regional governors, heads of administrations of cities, towns and villages where border guards are buried. With the only request - to hold a watch of memory at the grave of heroes. There were responses, letters, materials were sent, which became the basis of the exposition of the project.

Common grief has no boundaries


It quickly became clear that only in Kazakhstan, in the cities of Kyzyl-Orda and Nur-Sultan, there are highways named in honor of the fallen heroes of privates Batyrzhan Shalgumbayev and Alexander Kravtsov. In Russia, only in the city of Bakal, the Satkinsky District of the Chelyabinsk Region, there is a street named in honor of the deceased participant in the battle of the hero-order bearer Private Andrey Kostylev; there are 28 houses on it.

More recently it became known that in the city of Stavropol they are preparing to perpetuate the feat of junior sergeant Pavel Buravtsev and name one of the streets of the southern city in his honor. And what about the rest? Only commemorative plaques at the schools where the heroes-border guards studied.


At the grave of Pavel Buravtsev. Watch

Common grief has no borders or political divisions. The tears of mothers, relatives and friends are equally bitter. Parental loss is irreplaceable, immeasurable. As the mother of Nikolai Filippova, who died in that battle, wrote in one of her letters to the mother of another hero of the land of Stavropol, Pavel Buravtsev, Nina Pavlovna, the mother of Nikolai Filippova, who died in that battle, “I can’t cope with my grief;

In November 2020, their feat turns 35. Of course, a lot in our minds this year has changed the pandemic, but one wonders, how is it that over all these thirty-odd years, an exposition about the worst tragedy in the entire Afghan campaign has not appeared in the Central Museum of Border Troops of the FSB of Russia?

In the spring of this year, the third volume of the publication "Border Guards in the Fire of Afghanistan" was published, but for some reason without an outline of that fierce battle in the Zardev Valley. Only the museum employee Olga Skorynina scrupulously collects information for publications about each of the heroes of this battle, and one of the eyewitnesses to what happened then in the mountains of Afghanistan, border guard Oleg Orlov, travels to his blood graveyards with the burials of heroes and captures everything that he sees.

Meanwhile, by a miracle the surviving hero-order bearer Vyacheslav Deriglazov has already lost his home in the Kursk region and now lives in an apartment allocated to him for a while.

For comparison, it is worth remembering the feat of the sixth company of the Pskov paratroopers. There also was a command error. 84 soldiers were killed. But the whole country knows about their feat. We are proud of the courage and courage of the fallen and we all mourn together in memory of them.

Border guards also know about 19 dead, but mostly those who served at the border, it is they who annually hold commemorative events on the date of their death. So this year, funeral candles will be lit at the officers 'and soldiers' graves in cities, towns and villages in memory of the Panfilov border guards who died in the battle near the Afghan village of Afridzh.

On a large scale, the mention of their feat is not promoted, but it would be more correct to say, it is simply hushed up. And this is an unforgivable mistake of all of us now living!

Difficult choice of Sergei Govorukhin


And then another example comes to mind. In September 1994, a group of documentary filmmakers, headed by the young Sergei Govorukhin, worked in Tajikistan in the area of ​​responsibility of the Moscow border detachment in the area of ​​the Turg height. With the permission of the command, all members of the group received weapon and ammunition.

In those days, the daily reports from the Group of Russian Border Guards of the Federal Border Guard Service of the Russian Federation were alarming in a military manner. Sergei was looking for a suitable nature for his future, as it turned out later, for the stunning documentary "Cursed and Forgotten." The group moved from one point to another almost every day, but everything was not right.

What if it's a mistake? Not damned or forgotten

On September 16, the "turntable" dropped the filmmakers on Turga and they walked down the path after Major Andrey Nartov's group. We went down for a long time, for several hours, and when we reached the cover group of Captain Vasily Koshik, an explosion suddenly sounded down in the gorge.

Major Nartov, senior lieutenants Dmitry Trotsenko, Maxim Nesterov, lieutenant Andrei Kornevsky, privates Alexey Byakov, Saindsho Sangov and Sergei Petrov were killed, lieutenant Oleg Efremov and private Denis Chernov were wounded. The spooks continued to press on from all sides, the battle continued until dawn.

Then Sergei, along with members of the film crew Mikhail Simakov and Vitaly Vanchev, had to put aside the cinema equipment and take up arms. Help came to the border guards only the next day: the wounded were taken to the helipad on Turga for 32 hours, and the dead were brought to the detachment only a week later.


Sergey Govorukhin knows what a "blue beret" is

Upon the return of the film crew to Moscow, the head of the press center of the Federal Border Guard Service of the Russian Federation, Colonel Alexander Suvorov, found it necessary to report in a memo to the Director of the Federal Border Service of Russia, General of the Army Andrei Nikolaev, about the courage and courage of the members of the film crew.

Then, in September, the idea of ​​being awarded the Order of Courage went to them. But, given the fact that Russian President Boris Yeltsin was deeply offended by Sergei's father, Stanislav Govorukhin, the Federal Border Service's proposal to award documentary filmmakers was rejected.

In February 1995, Sergei, with the same film crew, came under fire on Minutka Square in Grozny. He was wounded, which subsequently led to the amputation of one of the legs below the knee. Govorukhin bravely endured this and continued working on the film.

At the same time, the newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda" published an article about what happened in September with documentary filmmakers near Turg and what was the Kremlin's reaction to the presentation of them for awards.

Colonel Alexander Suvorov again presented to the director of the FPS materials for awarding orders to all members of Sergei Govorukhin's group. Andrei Nikolaev immediately re-signed the submission, and on the eve of Victory Day, all three were awarded the Orders of Courage. This is how the mistake of the Kremlin structures was corrected.

“The only real mistake is not to correct your past mistakes,” the wise Confucius once said. Maybe it is worth listening to this and returning to the same eighties in this anniversary year, understanding in detail the exploits of the border guards and rewarding them what they deserve?

They are all heroes, and that says it all. We just have to show true faith in this and wisdom! And we also need to talk about them not only on anniversaries, but also on a daily basis. Memory demands it!

Killed on November 22, 1985 in a battle near Afrij village (Republic of Afghanistan):

1. Private Igor Abrosimov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Banner. He was buried at the cemetery of the village of Kochaki, Shchyokinsky district, Tula region.


2. Private Sergei Belyakov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried at the Northern Cemetery in Perm.


3. Junior Sergeant Pavel Buravtsev - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in Stavropol.

4. Junior Sergeant Albert Valiev - Tatar, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. He was buried in the village of Yamashevo, Mamadyshsky district, Republic of Tatarstan.


5. Private Andrey Gundienkov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the village. Tarutino, Zhukovsky District, Kaluga Region.


6. Private Oleg Zhurovich - Belarusian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the village. Lelchitsy, Gomel region, Republic of Belarus.


7. Private Vladimir Kalashnikov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in Yakutsk.


8. Private Andrey Kostylev - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the town of Bakal, Chelyabinsk region.


9. Private Alexander Kravtsov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the city of Tselinograd (now Nur-Sultan), Republic of Kazakhstan.


10. Private Virgilijus Kuchinskis - Lithuanian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. He was buried in the village of Vekshnialiai, Telšiai region, Lithuania.


11. Captain Anatoly Naumov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. He was buried in Kiev at the Berkovtsy cemetery, Ukraine.


12. Captain Vladimir Roslov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the city of Frunze (now Bishkek) at the Chon-Aryk cemetery, the Republic of Kyrgyzstan.


13. Sergeant Vladimir Semiokhin - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. He was buried in the village of Pigarevo, Komarichsky district, Bryansk region.


14. Private Sergei Tarasenko - Belarusian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in Gomel, Republic of Belarus.


15. Corporal Yevgeny Usachev - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. He was buried in the cemetery of the village of Gorelki in the city of Tula.


16. Private Nikolai Filippov - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. He was buried in the village of Lomintsevo, Shchyokinsky district, Tula region.


17. Corporal Gennady Chemerkin - Russian, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the city of Bogoroditsk, Tula region.


18. Private Batyrzhan Shalgumbayev - Kazakh, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the city of Kyzyl-Orda, Republic of Kazakhstan.

19. Sergeant Rafkat Sharypov is a Tatar, posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Star. Buried in the city of Orsk.

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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 26 October 2020 05: 42
    0
    It happened right here, near Afrij village

    The place is ideal for an ambush of spooks ... hence such losses ... oh commander, where did you look.
    1. pereselenec
      pereselenec 26 October 2020 10: 49
      12
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      ... oh, commander, where did you look.


      It is a pity that the commander did not have at hand all the competent experts from the military, they would definitely advise him in hindsight as it should.
    2. Civil
      Civil 26 October 2020 11: 45
      +8
      Why write nationality? These are the Soviet fighters who died defending the Soviet Union from terrorists.
      1. Matroskin
        Matroskin 26 October 2020 12: 14
        10
        Because the Soviet people are a supranational community of people of different nationalities. Internationalism is friendship and cooperation between nations and ethnic groups in the struggle against exploiters.
        It is now whoever they hit is called terrorists in order to depersonalize. Then the parties to the conflict were quite obvious.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 26 October 2020 20: 15
          +4
          Quote: Matroskin
          Because the Soviet people are a supranational community of people of different nationalities. Internationalism is friendship and cooperation between nations and ethnic groups in the struggle against exploiters.
          It is now whoever they hit is called terrorists in order to depersonalize. Then the parties to the conflict were quite obvious.

          I have been speaking Russian since a year, I think in Russian, I read and write in Russian, I am interested in Russian history and literature, I am worried about what is happening in Russia and with Russians in particular.
          I, Russian, I have nothing to be ashamed of, let the count be returned yes
          1. Matroskin
            Matroskin 26 October 2020 22: 02
            +2
            I agree. Let them return, I'm also Russian and a little Mari)).
  2. Asad
    Asad 26 October 2020 05: 51
    11
    When we were at the recruiting station, we were vigorously discussing whether we would get to Afghanistan or not. I confess I did not aspire to go there, I have already seen the crippled! I don’t know, it was necessary for the USSR to enter there, but the war brought a lot of grief! Eternal memory to the heroes! We must remember!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 26 October 2020 07: 17
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      Quote: ASAD
      I don’t know, it was necessary for the USSR to enter there, but the war brought a lot of grief!

      With the passage of time, one can judge whether it was necessary to enter there or not by what we brought to Afghanistan and what word the Afghans remember us with.

      I will not write about drug traffic and US bases, and everything is clear, and if the hunchback had not withdrawn our troops, then all this would not have happened ...
      1. Asad
        Asad 26 October 2020 07: 41
        0
        A brigade of Tajiks built a house for me, a kid who lived on the border with Afgan. He told me that women throughout Soviet power wore a veil, and in order to earn 10 tons of dollars for a bride, they had to either carry drugs themselves or rob caravans. Maybe he was lying!
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 26 October 2020 08: 39
          +6
          Quote: ASAD
          in order to earn 10 tons of dollars for a bride price for a bride, they had to either carry drugs themselves or rob caravans.

          One of the reasons why drugs were not so widespread in the USSR is that the drug owners did not need our rubles, and only after the rubles were allowed to be exchanged for dollars, drugs began to actively spread in our country. So he talks about the time when the USSR was gone. The main reason for drugs in our country is that the United States encourages its cultivation in Afghanistan.

          Did they go to the USSR in a chador - perhaps in some remote mountain village.
          1. podymych
            26 October 2020 11: 48
            +6
            And there was also no Gorbachev's anti-alcohol campaign - it was not very easy to get in with drugs with our moonshine and solntsedar. But to Raechka Maksimovna, a separate thank you - I got my hubby on the saving reform
          2. boris epstein
            boris epstein 26 October 2020 16: 54
            +3
            Drugs in the USSR were among the so-called "bohemia" -artists and some athletes, were in circulation in Central Asia (but there it is traditionally and centuries old), during the First World War and the Patriotic War there were those who abused painkillers. But all this was far from widespread. The main competitor and winner of drugs in the Russian Empire and the USSR was vodka. Drug-high is individual, vodka within reasonable limits is communication. "How about bazar?"
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 26 October 2020 15: 11
          +2
          Quote: ASAD
          to earn 10 tons of dollars for a bride price, they had to either carry drugs themselves, or rob caravans. Maybe he was lying!

          Rob a caravan? He's lying, of course, they dragged themselves. And those caravans were normally so guarded
          1. Asad
            Asad 26 October 2020 15: 28
            0
            He described the caravan as a pair of donkeys and a man of 10 Mujahideen.
      2. businessv
        businessv 26 October 2020 21: 58
        +1
        Quote: Boris55
        and if the hunchback had not withdrawn our troops, then all this would not have happened ...
        He not only withdrew the troops, but also destroyed a huge, powerful country, and having lost his head, they do not cry for their hair. We entered Afghan in order not to let the minke whales there. What this gave us apart from the death of our guys is hard to say, and it probably doesn't need anything. But it is imperative to remember the dead! Thanks to the author for the necessary article!
  3. Avior
    Avior 26 October 2020 07: 36
    +6
    ... They will all go together in the night after the bleeding junior sergeant Vladimir Gavrilyuk.

    Vladimir Gavrilyuk was later the head of the village council with. Velikotsk, Melovsky district of Luhansk region.
    I don’t know how now ...
  4. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 26 October 2020 08: 59
    0
    I watched on TV a story about how one chairman of the committee for the memory of Afghans killed another with someone else's hands. In cases brought against the committee itself and the chairmen, an amount of $ 4 billion appears. I hope that these committees, initiative groups and others will not receive a single ruble anymore. Memory - yes. Everything else is clearly enough ...
  5. tank64rus
    tank64rus 26 October 2020 09: 09
    +6
    Sometimes you watch the news, where ladies in uniform are strewn with stars on their shoulder straps and awards on their chests and it becomes very sad. Where did we come from. And our State Duma would like to ask one question when the resolution of the Congress of the RSFSR Armed Forces on Afghanistan will be canceled. Then there will be no damned and forgotten.
  6. cosmospetrovich
    cosmospetrovich 26 October 2020 09: 10
    +1
    * Private Rafkat Sharypov * It is strange, in the photograph on the monument the shoulder straps of the junior sergeant.
    1. tatarin1972
      tatarin1972 26 October 2020 12: 17
      0
      What's so strange ?! For example, I was a sergeant twice, I was demoted, and then again I was promoted. And Rafkat did not have time-kysmet ...
  7. frog
    frog 26 October 2020 09: 42
    +2
    Yes, few people know anything about that war. Because at first she was not there, and then she was cursed. And with the subsequent - also not much better. And yet it has not been said what kind of bastard arranged all this with his goat decisions. As well as about many similar cases before and after ..... For heroes appear en masse as a result of ..... bizm, and each of them has a position and rank.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 26 October 2020 12: 51
      +3
      Quote: Confucius
      The only real mistake is not to correct your past mistakes.
  8. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 26 October 2020 10: 11
    +8
    It was already getting dark in the mountains when they approached the Afrij village. Here the battle with the dushmans took place. Perhaps there was a mistake in something that no one wants to admit, and here is its price: nineteen dead, two seriously wounded, and only four managed to return to the location of the outpost surviving.

    I think that the reason for this mistake was known to the leadership of the border district and the Main Directorate in Moscow.

    The point is different, from the point of view of parents, relatives and friends of the dead guys there is no answer to the questions: why, how and for what?

    What tasks did the group perform, was it a search and maneuver group, was reconnaissance carried out? The group acted alone or was there interaction with others, was there a connection? Has any support / assistance been provided?

    When I was in school (bore the name of a border guard sergeant who died on Damansky Island), they knew about the war veterans of the Great Patriotic War and the Afghan soldiers of our settlement.

    P.S. And there is also a sense of shame at the funeral of a colleague, it seems that his parents and relatives condemn you: you are alive, but ours is not there and the last time you will not embrace. You stand with your eyes and drill the ground.
    1. frog
      frog 26 October 2020 11: 21
      +6
      I think that the reason for this mistake was known to the leadership of the border district and the Main Directorate in Moscow.

      Especially IMHO, but she was known even then. But you can't criticize the monks ...
      In this place, one can recall the fate of the "royal battalion". When they tried to hang all the dogs on the deceased battalion commander and regiment commander.
      “... As soon as the battalion entered the gorge, the regiment commander, Lieutenant Colonel Pyotr Suman, ordered the battalion commander Alexander Korolyov to stop, provide everyone with food, and then occupy the heights. But the divisional commander, Major General Viktor Logvinov, demanded that the battalion, without occupying heights, move further along the gorge. The battalion commander Alexander Korolyov refused, the regiment commander Pyotr Suman fully supported him. Then the division commander "got into the net" and told the battalion commander that he was removing the regiment commander Pyotr Suman from the battalion leadership, and ordered to go further without occupying heights. The battalion commander Alexander Korolyov refused to do this, then the division commander, Major General Viktor Logvinov, threatened him with a tribunal, promising that he would send a couple of helicopter flights to cover ... ”.

      During the debriefing of the flights, Suman was saved from the very sad consequences by the communications chief, who confirmed this order. But he was still removed from his post and pulled off an asterisk. And the division commander, dismissed from his post, was simply sent to the Union.
      On August 30, 2015, at the age of 70, a veteran of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, a veteran of the Ministry of General and Vocational Education of the Sverdlovsk Region, a former Deputy Commander of the Ural Military District for combat training, Lieutenant General Viktor Dmitrievich LOGVINOV, died suddenly. Viktor Dmitrievich worked in Ministry of General and Vocational Education of the Sverdlovsk Region from January 2000 to September 2010. Over the years of work in the ministry, Viktor Dmitrievich has established himself as a real professional, responsible and demanding specialist. He has earned well-deserved respect and gratitude not only from employees of the ministry, but also from employees of educational institutions subordinate to the ministry, of the entire education system of the Sverdlovsk region. With his direct support, activities were carried out for the patriotic education of students in the Sverdlovsk region. With the arrival of Viktor Dmitrievich in the ministry, business and creative ties of the education system with the headquarters of the Central Military District, with the military commissariat and other military administration bodies of the Sverdlovsk region were greatly strengthened. Contacts of the ministry with veterans' organizations of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have reached a new, higher level. We express our sincere condolences to the family and friends of the deceased. The bright memory of Viktor Dmitrievich will forever be preserved in our hearts.

      He commanded combat training in the district, however ...
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 26 October 2020 12: 09
      0
      Quote: Lynx2000
      What tasks did the group perform, was it a search and maneuver group, was reconnaissance carried out?

      What is the purpose of "parents and loved ones"? Is there not enough material in the report for the RUMO? However, the same goal can be seen in the article itself. Nothing is said about the "mistake" - perhaps the readers will add intelligence material ...
      1. Lynx2000
        Lynx2000 26 October 2020 12: 51
        +2
        What is so secret in the tactics of actions of border maneuver groups or Russian military intelligence units that could interest the Americans from the US Defense Ministry?

        The exit of this border group is not a special operation in the mountains of Honduras.
        1. frog
          frog 26 October 2020 13: 11
          +1
          Nothing secret. It's just that if you talk nasty things about the great, it means that you are an agent of something))) The fact that their own "stripes" of all sorts of harm have brought more harm than all the State Departments is not considered. Well, they did not speak at the briefing)))
        2. frog
          frog 26 October 2020 13: 21
          +1
          And in pursuit ... There are quite a lot of materials about this operation, incl. and memories of the participants. From which everything (or almost everything) becomes clear. Unfortunately.....
          1. Lynx2000
            Lynx2000 26 October 2020 14: 14
            0
            Quote: frog
            Nothing secret. It's just that if you talk nasty things about a great one, it means an agent of something)))

            Do not quite understand...

            Quote: frog
            ... incl. and memories of the participants. From which everything (or almost everything) becomes clear. Unfortunately.....

            To be honest, I learned about such a fight from the article. He fluently searched for information.
            Selected, not clear meaning.

            P.S. I sleep. The lighthouse says that it will soon be midnight in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. hi
            1. frog
              frog 26 October 2020 14: 19
              0
              Pleasant))) They don't argue with the lighthouse)))
  9. Matroskin
    Matroskin 26 October 2020 10: 23
    +3
    Blessed memory of the soldiers-internationalists who died in the line of duty. Thank you for the article.
    At VO, the event was practically not covered The death of the Maravara company on April 21, 1985.
    The other day, during a conversation with an American (why ping dos a curse?), I learned about a certain "massacre in Laghman" in April 85, they qualify this event as a war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laghman_massacre#cite_ref-FOOTNOTEGoodwin1987117_4-0
    I know about the Laghman operation in March 1984. But what is this "massacre"? There is no information about the actions of Soviet troops in this region during April 85, or I did not find it (only among the Americans). Maravara Gorge? This is Kunar. Kunar operation? So she is in May and also in Kunar.
    It is clear that the propaganda (from the Americans Songmi in Vietnam, the commies need to sew the same thing. By the way, the Maravara company was advancing to the village of Sangam. It's funny). Maybe the author will express an opinion. This must be fought.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 26 October 2020 11: 35
      +1
      - One of the articles in Vika was copied from the material of Grigoriev, Vladimir Arkadievich ...
      - The second is an outright fake, spread by the UPI agency, with reference to an Iranian newspaper, which, in turn, refers to the report of some Western diplomats.
      1. Matroskin
        Matroskin 26 October 2020 11: 46
        0
        Yes, it is clear what sources are indicated there (and please discard the article on Grigoriev's material). It is clear that a fake. I just would understand if a kind of "massacre" was attributed to a certain operation or skirmish, and so ...
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 26 October 2020 12: 07
          +1
          http://artofwar.ru/g/grigorxew_w_a/vg3.shtml
          1. Matroskin
            Matroskin 26 October 2020 12: 19
            0
            Thanks. I thought about something else material. There is a lot of information about the 1st company
            1. saygon66
              saygon66 26 October 2020 12: 38
              0
              - In Vick they refer to the "work" of a certain A.J. Bellamy "Mass Murder and Morality." The period of the described events is approx. three years ...
              - The word "massscre" is a massacre, in the documents it is translated as "mass murder" .... The technical term is no tragedy.
  10. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 26 October 2020 11: 01
    +3
    Thanks to the author.
  11. faterdom
    faterdom 26 October 2020 11: 48
    +2
    The first material about the battle was published only in 2001 in the newspaper Literaturnaya Rossiya.

    We have bad traditions. The feat of the defenders of the Brest Fortress was also remembered after many years, and also thanks to the writers.
    The case when time is not only a doctor, but also an assistant to justice - albeit for a long time, but right, and not opportunistic.
    Or Alexander Ivanovich Marinesko - when were his merits appreciated? At least he lived, well done!
  12. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 26 October 2020 12: 20
    +2
    For those who are not aware of those events, I will leave a link
    http://pv-afghan.narod.ru/Operatsii/Zardev_85.htm
    1. frog
      frog 26 October 2020 13: 12
      0
      Yes, even Aunt Vika knows about this.
  13. Million
    Million 26 October 2020 12: 43
    +4
    mother of Nikolai Filippov, who died in that battle

    Not a Tulcan, but a Tula. It's a shame not to know!
  14. 9 Shaft
    9 Shaft 26 October 2020 13: 22
    +1
    Whatever it was, but arrogance, arrogance was, is and will be, probably it is not eradicated.
    No one is immune from mistakes and their prices are different.
    Eternal memory to the guys.
  15. German Titov
    German Titov 26 October 2020 21: 09
    +1
    Rest in peace to you, Brothers !!! 1362-1364, Shindand.
  16. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 26 October 2020 22: 54
    +1
    I know Oleg Efremov personally, lives and works in the Moscow region, was awarded the Order "For Personal Courage"
  17. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 26 October 2020 23: 24
    +1
    And in our village where I lived with my parents, a guy who was awarded for his participation in the battles in Afghanistan was awarded openly. There was a solemn meeting in the club, with the participation of amateur art groups of our school. The award was presented by the chairman of the regional executive committee. And this was even before perestroika, at the end of 1984.
  18. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 27 October 2020 06: 54
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    Why write nationality? These are the Soviet fighters who died defending the Soviet Union from terrorists.

    I totally agree.
    Rest in peace.

    Nationality, or rather citizenship and nationality, must be indicated in reports and reports about murders, rapes, thefts and robberies.
    9 out of 10 crimes in Moscow are committed by non-Russian citizens.
    But the media never indicate civil and nat. belonging to murderers.
  19. Dimon71
    Dimon71 27 October 2020 18: 20
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    Exactly on this day I turned 14 years old. We lived in the city of Batumi. In the house of border guards on Gorky Street at the third outpost !!!!! Later I became the Border Guards !!!!! Eternal memory to the fallen border guards. SLAVA PV !!!!
  20. Dimon71
    Dimon71 27 October 2020 18: 24
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    By the way, I read it today. That during the Karabakh conflict 40 Armenian border guards were killed !!!!!
  21. prelovskij
    prelovskij Yesterday, 16: 21
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    Russia needs to deliver a nuclear strike against the United States and this will end the Great Patriotic War. The United States cannot retaliate with a nuclear strike against Russia, it has already tried it many times. Russia can http://www.litsovet.ru/index.php/material.read?material_id=584764