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Turkish press: Turkish MAM-L missile has already destroyed hundreds of tanks, including T-72 of the Armenian Armed Forces

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Turkish press: Turkish MAM-L missile has already destroyed hundreds of tanks, including T-72 of the Armenian Armed Forces

MAM-L



The active use of drones by the Azerbaijani side in the Karabakh conflict indirectly affected the sharp increase in the combat performance of Turkish missile weapons. Number of main combat tanks, shot down launched from the UAV UR MAM-L, exceeded a hundred.

These calculations are cited by the Turkish edition of SavunmaSanayiST, explaining that this type of missile is used from ANKA and Bayraktar TB2 drones, which were purchased by Baku from Ankara. They were purchased along with ammunition manufactured by the Roketsan company.

MAM-L is a smart projectile weighing 22 kg. Its range is 8 km (14 km with an inertial navigation system or when the global positioning system is activated). Semi-active laser guidance system.

MAM-L is capable of effective impact on armored targets as it is based on the original anti-tank missile

- writes the press in Turkey.

These missiles were actively used in Syria, Libya, and are used in Karabakh.

The 72th tank destroyed by the MAM-L was the T-70 belonging to the Armenian army. More than 100 out of XNUMX tanks eliminated by MAM-L ammunition belong to Armenian troops

- indicates SavunmaSanayiST.com.



The publication also uses the video of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

Photos used:
Roketsan website: www.roketsan.com.tr
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  1. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 14: 15 New
    +5
    Is today UAV day? Already the sixth material related to drones.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 October 2020 14: 17 New
      +9
      So they showed themselves very well
      1. elai
        elai 22 October 2020 14: 21 New
        11
        This is a fact, their effectiveness is good, they helped to reduce the losses at times, and the enemy has how many people they have destroyed, even in the video it is sometimes scary to watch her fly into the crowd with the crowd
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 October 2020 14: 24 New
          +2
          I agree - it is already uncomfortable, the massacre
          1. krot
            krot 22 October 2020 19: 38 New
            +3
            Turkish missiles look even better than ours in videos. They always have a bull's eye. We usually have in the area close to the target .. Although I understand that different ammunition, but nevertheless high-precision ones spoke ..
            In my opinion, we have something to work on!
            1. svan26
              svan26 23 October 2020 10: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: krot
              They always have a bull's eye. In our country, it is usually in the area close to the target ..
              ,
              Vidio, where not in the bull's-eye, are not published. War...
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 22 October 2020 14: 24 New
        +1
        So they showed themselves very well


        They showed it well because the Armenians do not know how to radically fight them.
        It would seem logical to calculate the drone control centers and strike them with appropriate weapons.
        The Armenians do not have a scientific base for unmanned aircraft ... although I would not dramatize the situation so much ... not all is lost for the Armenians ... there is time to correct the situation ... if only Pashinyan would not do something stupid.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 October 2020 14: 25 New
          12
          Such a center can be installed on several trucks anywhere in Azerbaijan)) Or, at worst, in the region of Turkey bordering Armenia.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 22 October 2020 14: 28 New
            +5
            Such a center can be installed on several trucks anywhere in Azerbaijan)) Or, at worst, Turkey.

            You can, of course ... that means the Armenians shouldn't sleep and wait for the next blow.
            1. RED_ICE
              RED_ICE 23 October 2020 19: 22 New
              +2
              Yes, the Armenians are not going to fight. They are waiting for Russia to fit in for them. I hope the leadership of our country will have enough wisdom not to send our troops to this massacre. Let them figure it out among themselves.
          2. Alexey Bobrin
            Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 17: 38 New
            -2
            yeah, anywhere in Azerbaijan! No more than 150 km. from their application. They don't have that long range.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 October 2020 17: 43 New
              0
              Flight range of Harop - 1000 km
              1. Alexey Bobrin
                Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 17: 48 New
                +1
                yeah, well, let it fly, and we'll see))
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 22 October 2020 18: 27 New
                  +2
                  That's for sure ))
                  Americans in Afghanistan control their drones from Nevada, in my opinion
                  Or repeaters stand
                  Unclear request
                  1. vadimtt
                    vadimtt 23 October 2020 09: 50 New
                    +3
                    The Americans have a satellite constellation. Turkey has only a couple of satellites on which, in theory, the appropriate equipment could be installed. But on many grounds it has not been established. There are still air repeaters, I don't know how things are with them in Azerbaijan and Turkey.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 23 October 2020 10: 41 New
                      0
                      Most likely - like with them in Turkey
                  2. Alexey Bobrin
                    Alexey Bobrin 23 October 2020 10: 46 New
                    +2
                    from Germany..
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 22 October 2020 14: 28 New
          17
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          ... all is not lost for Armenians ... there is time to improve the situation ...
          I wonder how the Armenians can fix something? Azerbaijan has superiority in all respects, both in the number of troops and in armaments. Azerbaijan has been developing the military-industrial complex for many years, making massive purchases of equipment, including from Russia. The Armenians did nothing of this when they had the opportunity. And now it's too late to drink Borjomi.
          1. Alexey Bobrin
            Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 17: 40 New
            -3
            Arms were supplied to Armenia and Azerbaijan in equal quantities, including on parity.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 22 October 2020 17: 45 New
              +4
              Why such a conclusion? Just compare the number of different types of equipment in the armament of both countries and you will see that Azerbaijan has a 2-3-4-fold superiority on all fronts. This is not surprising given Azerbaijan's much larger economy and GDP.
              Quote: Alexey Bobrin
              and including parity.
              Azerbaijan was supplied with equipment in the amount in which he paid for it. Armenians simply do not have money to buy equipment on the same scale.
              1. Alexey Bobrin
                Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 17: 47 New
                -5
                This is the data of the RF Ministry of Defense. This was done on purpose. Don't argue! We will not talk about any illegal deliveries.
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 22 October 2020 17: 49 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexey Bobrin
                  This is the data of the RF Ministry of Defense.
                  Provide links to this data. And why they do not coincide with the officially declared amount of equipment in service.
                  Quote: Alexey Bobrin
                  This was done on purpose. Don't argue!
                  Such an answer does not channel. Please allow me to give the reasoning and support your words. I'm not going to take information on faith.
                  Quote: Alexey Bobrin
                  We will not talk about any illegal deliveries.
                  Those. all deliveries were legal, do I understand correctly?
                  1. Alexey Bobrin
                    Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 17: 58 New
                    -3
                    Well, let's look at your data? pliz?
                    1. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 22 October 2020 18: 37 New
                      +3
                      Well, no need to merge so sadly. You slide into kindergarten. I asked for arguments and links to prove the correctness of your words. Instead, all I see is "I won't say anything, you first." How old are you? fourteen?
                      1. Alexey Bobrin
                        Alexey Bobrin 23 October 2020 09: 21 New
                        -4
                        Sadly you merged! Or did you think I would sit for a day and wait while you skid?))) Don't tell me! Submit your details once you are nominating yourself for an expert job! And don't pretend you didn't read my last message!
                      2. Greenwood
                        Greenwood 23 October 2020 14: 51 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexey Bobrin
                        Sadly you merged!
                        I was the first to ask a question about sources and links to confirm your words. There is still no answer, jerking instead. As there will be an answer, so I will answer. In my opinion it is quite logical.
                        Quote: Alexey Bobrin
                        Or did you think I would sit for a day and wait while you skid?)))
                        I don’t sit all day on the forum to instantly reply to all messages. Work, business, such a thing ... And yes, the brackets at the end of a sentence are a sign of communication at the level of a student.
                        Quote: Alexey Bobrin
                        Submit your details once you are nominating yourself for an expert job!
                        I have never nominated myself for the title of an expert. I operate on data publicly available on the Internet. You started to write loud phrases "This is the data of the RF Ministry of Defense!", "Do not argue", etc. At the same time, they did not confirm their position anywhere and did not provide evidence and references. An attempt to stand out and show your worth did not fail. lol
                2. Alexey Bobrin
                  Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 18: 07 New
                  -4
                  what all ? )) there are no such?
                  1. Greenwood
                    Greenwood 22 October 2020 18: 38 New
                    +5
                    What data do you need?
                    1. The comment was deleted.
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                    3. The comment was deleted.
                    4. Alexey Bobrin
                      Alexey Bobrin 23 October 2020 10: 13 New
                      -3
                      All clear! While.
                    5. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 23 October 2020 14: 53 New
                      +2
                      No, no, no, that won't work. The dialogue will end when you answer for your words. If an adequate answer with evidence, references to sources ("data of the RF Ministry of Defense") does not follow or a transition to personalities / rudeness, etc., will follow, I will consider it a drain.
        3. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 22 October 2020 18: 27 New
          0
          And Turkey and Israel were supplied at parity?
    2. Alexfly
      Alexfly 22 October 2020 16: 49 New
      +6
      There is something to work on, air defense is not in the ass, neither organizationally, nor financially .... And this is only for Armenia? I doubt it! Here is the asymmetrical answer to the asymmetrical question of the commander-in-chief ...
    3. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 22 October 2020 21: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      So they showed themselves very well


      They showed it well because the Armenians do not know how to radically fight them.
      It would seem logical to calculate the drone control centers and strike them with appropriate weapons.
      The Armenians do not have a scientific base for unmanned aircraft ... although I would not dramatize the situation so much ... not all is lost for the Armenians ... there is time to correct the situation ... if only Pashinyan would not do something stupid.

      How to calculate control centers?
      1. bk316
        bk316 28 October 2020 15: 00 New
        -2
        How to calculate control centers?

        For example, have you heard from RTR? ..
        But here the problem is different - strikes will have to be delivered deep into Azerbaijan, and no one wants that.
    4. bk316
      bk316 22 October 2020 22: 13 New
      0
      It would seem logical to calculate the drone control centers and strike them with appropriate weapons.

      Greetings. Obviously I read all this and am surprised at the comments, well, it seems like there are a lot of officers.
      Directly a sect of UAV supporters.
      Well, you can't win a war just by defending yourself.
      You cannot build an air defense system that will stop an attack on a country.
      Sooner or later, missiles will run out, and UAVs, even hitting complexes with a 10% probability, will sooner or later suppress the air defense system.
      Therefore, any country without means of attack is doomed.
      It is obvious that Karabakh does not have such means, or they deliberately do not use them.
      Well, it's clear how it will end.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 22 October 2020 22: 19 New
        0
        Quote: bk316
        Well, it's clear how it will end.

        I agree.
        That is the difference between local wars in a limited theater of operations.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 October 2020 01: 46 New
        -2
        Quote: bk316
        Therefore, any country without means of attack is doomed.

        If an unmanned zone is created for the enemy's UAV with electronic warfare systems, then its air defense will be much easier.
        Another question is that Armenians do not have modern electronic warfare systems along the way.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 23 October 2020 02: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          Another question is that Armenians do not have modern electronic warfare systems along the way.

          There were UAVs, they were simply destroyed. The repellent was presented in 2016, which is much more modern.
  2. avg
    avg 22 October 2020 14: 26 New
    +3
    Quote: Krasnodar
    So they showed themselves very well

    I agree. But the Turks lie too smartly. There you have to deal with both the number and the affiliation. For some reason they, at least, do not take into account the Israeli UAVs.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 October 2020 14: 28 New
      +6
      Turks are trying to use vidos from the war to the fullest to advertise the products of their military-industrial complex
    2. Alf
      Alf 22 October 2020 18: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: avg
      But the Turks lie too smartly.

      Rudel is resurrected ...
  3. Lopatov
    Lopatov 22 October 2020 14: 32 New
    +7
    Yeah ...
    They write that Hezbollah began using them in 2004.
    Apparently, the Israeli authorities are hiding the real state of affairs and the defeat of their own army
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 October 2020 14: 40 New
      0
      Yes, of course they hide it. From 30 thousand reservists participating in the conflict, absolutely everything was hidden. And from ten thousand conscripts. Also took a nondisclosure agreement lol
      I do not know, Th in 2004, in 2006 Hezbollah used scouts during the Second Lebanon. Hamasniks have been using them since 2007-8, EMNIP. The drums haven't appeared there yet. Although expected - Iranian
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 October 2020 15: 04 New
        +6
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Yes, of course they hide it. From 30 thousand reservists participating in the conflict, absolutely everything was hidden. And from ten thousand conscripts. Also took a nondisclosure agreement

        That's it!
        After all, UAVs are very, very effective, which means that Israeli units are simply destroyed in batches ...
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 October 2020 15: 18 New
          +2
          Yes, Lopatov - I only had time to jump from the Hezbollah Drones under the canopy of the fortified point. laughing
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 October 2020 15: 27 New
            +3
            That is, UAVs are really so effective, and it is impossible to fight them, how did your colleagues from Israel tell us for years?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 October 2020 15: 38 New
              +2
              Shovels - Hezbollah did not have shock drones, there were a couple of scouts, their cannon artillery was swept away in the early days of the war, it worked with numerous Katyushas and hail, often a single launch, on visual contact it used ATGMs, snipers and mortars, their two head-on massive collisions with the IDF ended very badly for the zigging ones - 6 yseres for 40 hezballons and zero for 50 when clearing N / A. Therefore, there is no talk of any losses from the use of Hezbollah UAVs.
              Regarding the use of attack UAVs against a standard army - you can see everything for yourself hi
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 22 October 2020 15: 42 New
                +3
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Shovels - Hezbollah didn't have shock drones

                Let me remind you that this is not 2004.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 22 October 2020 15: 50 New
                  +3
                  2006 - Lopatov laughing
                  But, if you know what to do with it - share it. The Israelis are racking their brains over this because of the presence of drone UAVs in Iran, the States too - and you already know what and how and how to resist hi
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 22 October 2020 16: 11 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Israelis are breaking their heads

                    But why?
                    It's like trying to invent a perpetual motion machine.
                    Drones are invulnerable ...
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 October 2020 16: 48 New
                    +5
                    Lopatov, what's the question? Are drones bullshit? You can see for yourself that no. Is the Russian army ready to work against them in the field? I do not know. Does the Russian Federation have shock UAVs? They write that no. Any more questions? laughing
  • credo
    credo 22 October 2020 15: 00 New
    +8
    Quote: Krasnodar
    So they showed themselves very well

    Advertising is the engine of trade, so the Turks are praising their products.
    In this regard, I am interested in another question.
    They have been fighting the Kurds for 30 or 40 years, and somehow this process is in a sluggish stage.
    What do the Turks lack ammunition from UAVs in the war against the Kurds, or the determination to use them?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 October 2020 15: 30 New
      0
      The UAV works well against army air defense systems, as in Lebanon in 1982, against army units, as in the Afri operation and Karabakh, and against Hezbollah, Hamas and Kurds - everything is very difficult here. laughing ... Who is in a civilian truck - militants or civilians or goods? A subunit was ambushed near the village - why for five men go to it unarmed - peaceful or partisans? I managed to lift the drone after the fire on my own - well, they crawled into an underground tunnel or cave, disguised the entrance to it with a real big bush - where will you look for them? Fill the whole hill with napalm? laughing
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 October 2020 15: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        UAV works well against army air defense systems

        And how many Israeli air defense systems have they destroyed?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 October 2020 16: 02 New
          +2
          Once again, Hezbollah did not have shock drones)) DID NOT HAVE
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 October 2020 16: 05 New
            +4
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Once again - Hezbollah did not have shock drones)) HAS NOT

            And now there is.
            So I ask
            So how many Israeli air defense systems have they destroyed?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 October 2020 16: 53 New
              +1
              They are not yet used against the IDF. laughing Lopatov - if you are not ready for something, then you do not need to look for an excuse for this, nodding at others, ok? )) Or tell that the threat is bullshit. wink
      2. Aag
        Aag 22 October 2020 18: 26 New
        +2
        "The UAV works well against army air defense systems, like in Lebanon in 1982, against army units, ..."
        Please advise where to read about the 1982 UAVs, what were they like? hi
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 October 2020 18: 35 New
          +1
          Intelligence
          it's one
          IAI Scout
          https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Scout
          This is the second
          Tadiran mastiff
          https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadiran_Mastiff
          About their use in 1982
          For the first time in the world, the Israelis widely used unmanned reconnaissance aircraft in a combat situation. They broadcast live television images to command posts. Receiving visual information, the command made decisions for launching missile strikes. A distracting group of Israeli aviation, before the main force attacked, triggered the activation of the Syrian air defense systems' radar stations, which were attacked with the help of Shrike homing anti-radar missiles, and those that were not destroyed were suppressed by interference.

          Their application:
          https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Операция_«Медведка_19»
          1. Aag
            Aag 22 October 2020 18: 38 New
            +1
            Thank you. hi
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 18: 55 New
          0
          Quote: AAG
          Please advise where to read about the 1982 UAVs, what were they like?

          American UAVs fought in World War II (Interstate TDR-2), in the Vietnam War more than 1 American Firebees flew 1000 sorties. The Israeli modification is called Mabat.
          Here is the wiki article: https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Firebee
          1. Aag
            Aag 22 October 2020 19: 16 New
            +2
            Thank you.
            It turns out that I missed a topic. The question arises: why did the VVUZ not talk about this? hi
            And, next, another: why is there not a lot of this in RA?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 October 2020 19: 48 New
              +3
              Since the end of the 08.08.08s, they have worked mainly to prevent a preventive disarming strike against the Russian Federation. They began to scratch themselves about the drones after the mess on 2014. Since XNUMX, there have been fewer grandmothers, old threats have remained, costs have increased - Syria, etc.
              1. Aag
                Aag 22 October 2020 19: 55 New
                +2
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Since the end of the 08.08.08s, they have worked mainly to prevent a preventive disarming strike against the Russian Federation. They began to scratch themselves about the drones after the mess on 2014. Since XNUMX, there have been fewer grandmothers, old threats have remained, costs have increased - Syria, etc.

                This is already, more or less, understandable (with an indistinct result), but so that in 1982 significant UAV successes are not covered during training ... Tomorrow I will torture former colleagues from other higher educational institutions ...
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 22 October 2020 20: 19 New
                  +1
                  Air defense augers, probably in the know
                  1. Aag
                    Aag 22 October 2020 20: 22 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Air defense augers, probably in the know

                    Unfortunately, from the air defense squad, I have only one friend, and a conscript, of ancient (84-86) times ...
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 October 2020 21: 20 New
                    +1
                    Then I don't understand why they didn't bother with it. Most likely, they continue to prepare for a Nuclear War
                  3. Aag
                    Aag 22 October 2020 21: 45 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Then I don't understand why they didn't bother with it. Most likely, they continue to prepare for a Nuclear War

                    So this is surprising ... Throughout his service in the Strategic Missile Forces (1983-1988-1999), he did not observe adequate interaction with the air defense forces.
                  4. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 October 2020 22: 00 New
                    +1
                    Well, there's nothing to say. Show-off and window dressing, then.
        3. telobezumnoe
          telobezumnoe 23 October 2020 12: 21 New
          0
          Tu-123, 143, 243 is this the beginning of the XNUMXs?
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 22 October 2020 15: 31 New
    +2
    On their territory, in the mountains, they reduced the number of terrorists to a minimum, from 50 to 100 people, no more. Just 7-8 years ago, the number of these mountain ... was equal to 3000 thousand people. So they use UAVs against the PKK, very effectively The remaining militants are afraid to stick their heads out of the mountain caves. Isn't this the result?
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 22 October 2020 15: 02 New
    -2
    Against the Papuans without normal air defense, everything is fine, and the Abrams showed themselves well, although they still burned a bunch of them.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 October 2020 17: 30 New
      +2
      If there are about 30 such drones of strikers and kamikazes on the air defense system, then nothing will help him - since they can move from different directions and different heights at the same time. And the enemy, knowing how many air defense systems, their deployment and types located in the opposing country, can easily calculate how many drones need to be launched in order to completely exhaust the entire air defense system and partially disable it during the first raid and immediately apply the second wave in the form of fighter bombers to finish off all that was left without ammunition. All air-to-air and ground-to-air missiles with IR seeker are useless against drones. Electronic warfare can only jam communication, but one fig all the frequencies of the complexes will not jam against such drones, they are clearly not a panacea.
      1. Soho
        Soho 22 October 2020 18: 18 New
        -4
        All air-to-air and ground-to-air missiles with IR seeker are useless against drones. Electronic warfare can only jam communication, but one fig all the frequencies of the complexes will not jam against such drones, they are clearly not a panacea.

        Do you even write the word "in my opinion" before such nonsense.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 October 2020 00: 19 New
          0
          IR seeker does not see drones because they have an electric motor - they see hot jets of jet engines. Electronic warfare is far from a panacea, its most important purpose is to interfere with the enemy's communications equipment - and in practice, their effectiveness against drones is very conditional. And delusional basically people like you who believe in all kinds of fabulous crap.
      2. Aag
        Aag 22 October 2020 18: 19 New
        0
        "If there are about 30 such drones of strikers and kamikazes on the air defense system, then nothing will help him ..."
        Maybe if there is only one air defense system in the field ... I would like to think that 30 solid drones (UAVs), which are not able to land the electronic warfare means, cost much more than the air defense missile system attacked by them. exclude).
        "... EW can only jam communications ..."
        Is it knowledge or speculation?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 October 2020 00: 26 New
          -2
          ... EW can only jam communications ... "
          Is it knowledge or speculation? From the name, it is even clear the main purpose of electronic warfare and it is not necessary to give these complexes any other properties, and yes, the very radiation of these complexes can be a guideline for gliding bombs and missiles in the United States now they are engaged in such. "I would like to think that 30 solid drones (UAVs), which are not able to land electronic warfare means, are much more expensive than the air defense system attacked by them." There will be two solid of them - the rest of the cheap kamikaze drones printed on 3D printers and the air defense systems will have to launch missiles at them - because if they are not shot down they will destroy the air defense missile system and other objects.
          1. Aag
            Aag 25 October 2020 13: 10 New
            0
            "From the name it is even clear the main purpose of electronic warfare and it is not necessary to give these complexes any other properties ..."
            You have an incomplete understanding of the goals, objectives, and capabilities of electronic warfare.
  • Alexey Bobrin
    Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 17: 37 New
    0
    Still, these good indicators were confirmed!
  • Soho
    Soho 22 October 2020 18: 11 New
    +2
    The funny thing is that those who are so zealous about Turkish weapons and the MAM-L, even yesterday spattered saliva on the Vortex, calling it flawed. Although MAM-L differs from him, if only for the worse. This is the logic of our "experts"
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 October 2020 00: 28 New
      -1
      I doubt very much that MAM L costs 3 million rubles as Vortex 1
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 24 October 2020 08: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Soho
      The funny thing is that those who are so zealous about Turkish weapons and the MAM-L, even yesterday spattered saliva on the Vortex, calling it flawed. Although MAM-L differs from him, if only for the worse. This is the logic of our "experts"


      The Worst?
      You would jump up when you lie ...
      The Turk's rocket weight is half that of the Vortex.
      The Turk has more fighting spirit.
      The Turk's flight range is further!
      1. Soho
        Soho 26 October 2020 13: 39 New
        0
        Poke your fool-wife when she cooks you with a frying pan
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 23 October 2020 10: 57 New
    0
    So they showed themselves very well

    Turks have something to brag about, and the films deserve the best and most convincing advertising. Already, probably, there is a queue for the purchase of theirs UAVs and missiles.
  • Sirocco
    Sirocco 23 October 2020 17: 15 New
    0
    I don’t understand why such a panic, and such an unhealthy ringing about the UAV? Did they just appear yesterday? Or were there no massive drone attacks on the Khmeimim base? And haven't ours coped with them and are not coping? This theme reminds me of a client whose plaster is being removed, the importance of the UAV is too much exaggerated,
  • APASUS
    APASUS 22 October 2020 14: 21 New
    +5
    This is not a day like this, this harsh reality is entering our life. During the trip, our entire future will be associated with UAVs and other drones.
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 October 2020 14: 47 New
      +3
      And not only flying, but also crawling on the ground and underground, and water.
  • BDRM 667
    BDRM 667 22 October 2020 14: 22 New
    +8
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    Is today UAV day? Already the sixth material related to drones.


    It must be the same! belay Someone else is to blame for you ...

    Aren't you OgnennyiKotik today posted a bunch of photos, videos, wrote a lot of comments about the UAVs used by Azerbaijan, "is the Russian electronic warfare" Repelen "ineffective against them, and so on, and so on, and so on?
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 14: 33 New
      -10 qualifying.
      That's right, I'm tired of writing already. Repellent, not Repellent. Minus the diary for you. The main thing is that “ROSS 42” does not get caught with this, it will suit you ...
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  • OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 14: 24 New
    +5
    New Turkish AKSUNGUR with 12 mam-l flew 28 hours.

    1. Same lech
      Same lech 22 October 2020 14: 35 New
      +3

      This Turkish toy will be more.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 14: 39 New
        +5
        Approximately the same, as I understand aksungur is more sharpened for the duration of the flight, Akinchi for the payload.
        The payload on these UAVs is much more fun. There are cruise missiles, planning bombs, explosive missiles, etc.
    2. Nasdaq
      Nasdaq 22 October 2020 15: 21 New
      +4
      Cool target.
      I think UAVs are also effective in that they can be riveted / bought in large quantities and "relatively" cheaply. Small UAVs are difficult targets. Subtle and cheap. You don't lose people. The targets are generally normal. The service is not expensive. Operator training does not match the cost of pilot training.
      This is the strength of the UAV.
      The soul does not lie to the giants.
      Although for the fight against the large forces of the barmaleev, that's the very thing.
      But I will agree that if this "fool" flies over the positions, it gets worn out normally.
      But I don’t know to send this to an area where there is even a mediocre air defense. Expensive.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 15: 31 New
        +3
        One does not cancel the other. It is understood that Akinchi and Aksungur can carry large numbers of MAM-Ls. But their task is different. They have full-fledged radars, electronic warfare systems, they carry gliding bombs, cruise missiles, air-to-air missiles. Drones are much more serious, for more serious tasks. Simplified, they can cover Bayraktars and Anki. On bayraktar operational reconnaissance and striking, Anki on them reconnaissance and electronic warfare, Akinchi and Aksungur "heavy" weapons, radar, long-range reconnaissance.
      2. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 22 October 2020 15: 35 New
        +4
        On tests, this "cool target" gained an altitude of 16 km., Speed ​​550 km / h. It is not so easy to knock down. These birds have different tasks, in contrast to Bayraktar TV2
        1. Nasdaq
          Nasdaq 22 October 2020 15: 50 New
          +3
          Something tells me that at an altitude of 16 km with its size, many people will see it. Even civilian radars.
          If there is a medium-range missile system, then you can zhahnut.
          I don’t presume to approve, but with such dimensions it’s a target for me.
          If the enemy has only close-range air defense, then it will roll.
    3. Alexey Bobrin
      Alexey Bobrin 22 October 2020 17: 45 New
      0
      Altius can be in the air for 24 to 48 hours
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 22 October 2020 15: 47 New
    +2
    The Turks report that they made a new and more powerful version of the MAM-L rocket called MAM-M.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 20: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: Oquzyurd
      MAM-M

      No more info? Maybe the price of MAM-L is known?
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 22 October 2020 21: 33 New
        +1
        No, just what I wrote.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 October 2020 00: 30 New
        0
        In the District 4000 - 5000 dollars.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 24 October 2020 00: 31 New
          -2
          Where does the information come from?
  • da Vinci
    da Vinci 22 October 2020 17: 29 New
    0
    Here I roughly compared the Turkish drone AKSUNGUR (for example) and our La-5 (also for example). The Turk is much larger in size than a fighter, and more than 2 times less speed. Moreover, piston aircraft became obsolete by 1950. Is it really "weak" to find an antidote now?
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 22 October 2020 21: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: da Vinci
      Here I roughly compared the Turkish drone AKSUNGUR (for example) and our La-5 (also for example). The Turk is much larger in size than a fighter, and more than 2 times less speed. Moreover, piston aircraft became obsolete by 1950. Is it really "weak" to find an antidote now?

      Did you expect that the larger the size, the greater the speed?
  • Jcvai
    Jcvai 22 October 2020 14: 17 New
    +6
    Turkish MAM-L missile has already destroyed a hundred tanks

    reminded of an old joke about a rubber bomb ...
  • barin
    barin 22 October 2020 14: 17 New
    24
    The number of main battle tanks destroyed by the MAM-L missile launcher has exceeded one hundred.

    You then subtract the sturgeon.
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      22 October 2020 14: 26 New
      +9
      well, at least not with one shot ...
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 22 October 2020 15: 14 New
      12
      Well, BMPD writes about the same, according to confirmed objective control (photo / video)

      The authors of the blog presented an updated version of the calculations of the military equipment that was reliably lost in the current Karabakh war to the present day by the sides, based on the published photo and video materials.
      In their opinion, it can be recorded that the Armenian side has lost 138 T-72 tanks (of which 44 fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side), 35 BMP (16 BMP-1, 17 BMP-2, 2 unidentified, of which 14 were captured), 20 other armored vehicles (14 MT-LB with memory, 2 MT-LB, 1 BTR-70, 3 unidentified, of which 4 were captured), 2 armored tractor BTS-2 (captured), 2 self-propelled anti-tank systems (9P148 and 9P149, captured), 40 anti-tank systems launchers, 12 self-propelled howitzers (4 2S3 and 8 2S1), 50 artillery pieces (2 2A36, 11 D-20, 8 D-1, 1 KS-19, 28 D-30, of which 15 were captured in total), 56 MLRS (51 BM-21, 1 "Smerch", 2 WM-80, 1 TOS-1A, 1 unidentified), 9 mortars, 1 ZSU-23-4, 15 combat vehicles SAM (3 "Strela-10", 11 "Osa-AK / AKM", 1 "Cube"), elements of the S-300PS air defense system, 8 Radar (4 types ST-68U / UM, 1 P-18, 1 5N63S, 1 1S32, 1 1S91), one PU OTRK "Elbrus", 306 cars.


      From the Azerbaijani side, they were reliably lost 23 tank (2 T-90S and 21 T-72, with one returned by the Azerbaijani side), 17 BMP (2 BMP-1, 11 BMP-2, 1 BMP-3, 3 unidentified), 5 BTR-82A, 2 armored vehicles (Matador and Sand Cat), 1 engineering vehicle IMR-2, 13 cars.


      The article about 100 Mamlami tanks means 100 confirmed and posted tanks on video / photos of everything, not only in Karabakh.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 22 October 2020 15: 55 New
        +4
        It turns out that Azerbaijan even wins in terms of tanks. He took twice as many tanks as trophies than he lost. But the Armenians really with a bare bottom will soon be left.
        1. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 27 October 2020 04: 17 New
          0
          Pirov's victory, also a victory?

          ps your avatar often catches your eye ... sometimes it's a shame that everyones cling to the image of your hometown ...
      2. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 29 October 2020 14: 03 New
        0
        Can you share a link to the source?
  • Terenin
    Terenin 22 October 2020 14: 18 New
    10
    Turkish press: Turkish MAM-L missile has already destroyed hundreds of tanks, including T-72 of the Armenian Armed Forces
    And, didn't Alexander Vasilyevich patented his expression? "Why pity them, busurman ...!" (A.V.Suvorov)
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 22 October 2020 14: 23 New
      0
      So they, probably, translated into their own and it turned out: "why are they not faithful to consider?"
      Although, it looks like the score - even the type of tank is indicated ...
  • Coconut
    Coconut 22 October 2020 14: 21 New
    -5
    It's not about the bombs ... but whether Russia will be drawn into this conflict or not ... No.
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 October 2020 14: 25 New
    -2
    These missiles, together with Harop, yes, for a hundred tanks passed for sure.
    In the last week, there are no more tanks - they knocked out everything in the battle zone.
    The armor targets are over.
    Infantrymen are already beaten if they see three or more together.
  • Yalquzaq
    Yalquzaq 22 October 2020 14: 25 New
    -5
    The arsenal of the Azerbaijan army is replenished with the equipment wrung from the "heroic warriors" laughing
    Already squeezed at least 49 T-72s on the move of various modifications.
    1. lucul
      lucul 22 October 2020 14: 35 New
      0
      The arsenal of the Azerbaijan army is replenished with the equipment wrung from the "heroic warriors"

      So let's compare clearly the defense of Nagorno-Karabakh by the Armenians, with the defense of Stalingrad by the Russians.
    2. Voentorg
      Voentorg 22 October 2020 15: 09 New
      0
      Where is the guarantee that these are not Azerbaijani wrecked tanks?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 22 October 2020 18: 55 New
        +7
        Well, everything was filmed in Baku. Will push the NKR a little more and in Baku will capture Aliyev laughing .


        But BMPs in a counterattack - push the Azeri forward.


        But the impudent Azerbaijani fake or not, oh ...


        Well, and Harop also burned a wooden model of the T-72 or not wooden?


        I’m already silent about Pashinyan’s nighttime kot-attack. Where they drove the guys across an open field at night, when Azerbaijani UAVs fly in flocks in the sky. Well, they put them in cassettes - of course, screams immediately appeared - abobe effects and other fake. But today the Azerbaijanis have already rode through this field, where about fifty guys from the night counterattack lie sad .
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 20: 22 New
          -2
          All this is terrible. Peace to the world, pipiska war.
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 22 October 2020 21: 39 New
            +2
            Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting of the Valdai Club:



            "This conflict began not just as an interstate conflict and a struggle for territories, it began with ethnic confrontation. Such a situation, in which a significant part of Azerbaijan's territory was lost, cannot continue forever."
          2. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 22 October 2020 21: 43 New
            +2
            This video was included today

            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 22 October 2020 21: 59 New
              -1
              As I understand it, the whole of the south is already liberated, a dozen kilometers are left to Lachin, but I see a difficult geography there. But this is already the range of artillery fire.
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 22 October 2020 22: 09 New
                +2
                All 132 km. the section of the Azerbaijan-Iranian border (until the 27th day is not under the control) has been cleared, from the town of Horadiz to the border of Armenia. Ours are much closer to the Lachin road, and there is no traffic there anymore.
        2. Romka47
          Romka47 23 October 2020 12: 57 New
          +1
          Forgive me, I generally like your comments by the informativeness and the rich presence of proofs, but here the star on the BMP log for 1 (with Armenians) and 2 (with Azeris) photos are different, for 1 in the center, the ends of the stars are even, the log is round, and the star is shifted by 2 to the left, drawn clumsily, the ends of different lengths and thicknesses, the log from the left edge (closer to the BMP) is hewn. I'm not saying that the photo is fake, but the "BEHI" in the pictures are different. and the loopholes (or like this chtuka at the back at the top of the board, which the Armenians in the photo are open, in Azeri are closed) are not located so, in the second photo behind them there is still some kind of "gadget", on the first one is not.
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 22 October 2020 14: 38 New
    -1
    I'm already scared of Turkish UAVs, which, flying up to the target, manage to make a battle tank of their layout, and then destroy it))) It seems that VO has recently been turning from an informational-analytical publication into an advertising one in the UAV heading !!!!
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 22 October 2020 14: 42 New
      +6
      The products advertise themselves.
      And if Karabakh passes to Azerbaijan, it will be an advertising triumph.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 22 October 2020 14: 54 New
        -2
        The products do not advertise themselves, they are advertised by people of a specific profession. Yes, if Karabakh completely goes to Azerbaijan, then the heroes will not be the UAVs and their operators, but those who were on the front line ... But the effectiveness of the UAV is still in question, because besides the "advertisers" and "propagandists", the rest are specialists so far they are silent and check - they double-check the data coming from the UAV's places of use ... If the victory in this unnecessary war of political ambitions depended on the UAV, then every Armenian from abroad would arrive in Karabakh with his own drone))) So far, the most tangible losses are inflicted (on both sides) by artillery and special forces.
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 22 October 2020 15: 04 New
          +6
          And how many Armenians have returned from abroad even without drones?
          Azerbaijani units 15 kilometers from the Lachin corridor.
          While there is nothing to oppose them.
          And about art and special forces.
          If current actions were determined only by the actions of these forces, the opposition would be more even.
          The Armenian subdivisions in this area are not nearly as well prepared.
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal
            Vitaly Tsymbal 22 October 2020 16: 40 New
            -1
            It doesn't matter to me who and at what distance from something ... I'm talking about the tactics that are more effective for the Azerbaijani army. The tactic boils down to the fact that in mountainous terrain it is not possible to create a continuous front line, therefore the most effective is to capture key heights in the enemy's rear in small groups and strike the communications, which in the mountains are very convenient for inflicting tangible losses on the enemy's reserves, and at this time the infantry slowly and confidently crawls towards populated areas, which the enemy is forced to leave due to lack of reserves. If the Armenians have found an "antidote" against drones, they have not yet been against ground tactics. By the way, the UAVs are being directed by the soldiers sitting on the captured heights. It is in the tactical sense that the Azerbaijani army turned out to be more prepared than the army of Karabakh. UAVs are useless in mountainous and wooded areas. There is not a single video where a UAV hits a target in a forest ...
        2. Roman070280
          Roman070280 22 October 2020 15: 42 New
          0
          the heroes will not be the UAVs and their operators, but those who were on the front lines.
          Who is interested in them ..

          the effectiveness of the UAV is still in question
          This is even difficult to comment on .. The UAV, in principle, is difficult to make ineffective .. For this is just a piece of hardware .. and the people running around in the video are already corpses ..

          every Armenian from abroad would arrive in Karabakh with his own drone)))
          Would I fly in my Bayraktar for a dozen bucks? Or with a model from aliexpress and a bag of petards ??)
          And what a normal Armenian would leave his home, family and business, and try to die from abroad for no reason ..))
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal
            Vitaly Tsymbal 22 October 2020 16: 48 New
            +1
            In Donbass (according to ukroSMI), such models with Ali-express also hit targets ... The most dangerous weapon is a kitchen knife, because more than one weapon in the world has killed as many people as with a kitchen knife.
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 22 October 2020 15: 36 New
      +4
      flying up to the target, they manage to make a battle tank, and then destroy it)))


      Before that, they also make it (the layout) move and rotate the tower ..))
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 22 October 2020 16: 44 New
        0
        Before that, they also make it (the layout) move and rotate the tower ..))

        I will add; before that, specially leaving for an open place and without any disguise)))
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 23 October 2020 09: 16 New
          0
          Before adding something like that, you should watch at least the video above ..))
  • cniza
    cniza 22 October 2020 14: 38 New
    +4
    Turkish press: Turkish MAM-L missile has already destroyed hundreds of tanks, including T-72 of the Armenian Armed Forces


    It turns out that Armenia has only 10 tanks left?
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 22 October 2020 14: 47 New
      11
      "Once the Chekists came to us
      And they shot mother and father
      But I was born much later
      And therefore he survived. "
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 October 2020 14: 49 New
        +5
        Well, yes, they also counted plywood ... lol
  • bogart047
    bogart047 22 October 2020 14: 52 New
    +1
    who prevents Russia from checking electronic warfare and air defense in the same way?
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 22 October 2020 14: 55 New
    0
    Thus, Turkey indirectly confirms the direct participation of its military experts in hostilities. Or have volunteers from the Azerbaijan Academy of Sciences perfectly mastered modern high-tech combat systems in a couple of months?
  • maktub
    maktub 22 October 2020 15: 14 New
    +1
    Today, Baykar announced that an update has been released that can, without additional antennas or repeaters, increase the data transmission range to the Bayraktar TB2 from 150 to 300 km
  • Voentorg
    Voentorg 22 October 2020 15: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: maktub
    Today, Baykar announced that an update has been released that can, without additional antennas or repeaters, increase the data transmission range to the Bayraktar TB2 from 150 to 300 km

    The Americans shared new details ...
    1. maktub
      maktub 22 October 2020 15: 59 New
      -1
      The software has been modified most likely
  • Old26
    Old26 22 October 2020 15: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: barin
    The number of main battle tanks destroyed by the MAM-L missile launcher has exceeded one hundred.

    You then subtract the sturgeon.

    There is good material on the network about the losses of equipment of each of the parties. But even if we assume that the parties overestimated the losses of others by 50%, Armenia is a loser. The losses of Armenia are calculated in much larger numbers than those of Azerbaijan:
    Tanks - 141 T-72 tanks of various modifications, of which 120 were destroyed or knocked out) and 21 tanks were captured by the Azerbaijani side.
    With regard to Azerbaijan, this figure is 22, of which 3 tanks were captured, incl. and 2 T-90S
    Losses armored vehicles for various purposes (MT-LB, BMP, BTR)
    Armenia - 55 (including 22 captured by Azerbaijan), Azerbaijan - 22 (including 12 captured by Armenia
    UAV losses
    Armenia - 2, Azerbaijan - 17
    Losses of vehicles in Armenia (trucks and other cars are almost 22 times more than in Azerbaijan.
    Armenia has large losses in barrel artillery, which Azerbaijan does not have. Moreover, almost 40% of artillery pieces were captured by Azerbaijan. The loss of the air defense system is about 20. Etc.

    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    So they, probably, translated into their own and it turned out: "why are they not faithful to consider?"
    Although, it looks like the score - even the type of tank is indicated ...

    Precisely "counting", for the types of weapons are also indicated. And almost all

    Quote: cniza
    Turkish press: Turkish MAM-L missile has already destroyed hundreds of tanks, including T-72 of the Armenian Armed Forces


    It turns out that Armenia has only 10 tanks left?

    Plus 371 for Karabakh. Most likely, Armenia, as it had 105 or 107 tanks, remained, and the Karabakh
  • to bite
    to bite 22 October 2020 15: 43 New
    +6
    Azerbaijan was well prepared for this operation, while the Armenians were rallying and galloping ..
    In the process, the Pashinyan will have to surrender Karabakh, before it integrated with Europe .. They are generally silent!
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 22 October 2020 15: 43 New
    +3
    Military tactics in modern warfare are changing, drones and missile weapons are changing the picture and concept of warfare. From local hostilities in Syria. Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh, this can be clearly seen.
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 22 October 2020 15: 57 New
    0
    Hey, expert? I would have believed. Here are just lies in the title. The MAM-L is not a rocket, but a gliding guided bomb.
  • CARLSON
    CARLSON 22 October 2020 16: 29 New
    +1
    More than 70 out of 100 tanks eliminated by MAM-L ammunition belong to Armenian troops

    Well, more than 70 Armenian troops, and whose other 20 plus troops belong to?
    Azerbaijani, or are they private tanks bought by Armenians for a taxi. It looks like the counting goes like this, 1 rocket launch = 1 wrecked tank, especially since everyone in those parts loves to ...fellow
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 22 October 2020 19: 24 New
      +2
      There are Syrian, Libyan and even Kurdish T-55s. I posted above on the basis of what this news was made - 100 tanks hit on the videos posted in the history of operation.
  • maktub
    maktub 22 October 2020 18: 15 New
    +1
    MAM-L is of course good, but in the movement of hits I watched only from Israeli kamikaze drones Harop
  • georggy
    georggy 22 October 2020 18: 47 New
    -1
    Cheburek storytellers.
  • svoit
    svoit 22 October 2020 19: 02 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey Bobrin
    This is the data of the RF Ministry of Defense. This was done on purpose.

    Russia tried to approximately maintain parity in supplies from Russia, but it was necessary to maintain the parity of the Armed Forces of these countries, but this was not done (maybe on purpose)
  • Viltor
    Viltor 22 October 2020 19: 52 New
    -2
    Please note that all UAVs were used and were effective in the absence of any electronic warfare equipment! I don't think Turkish drones are cooler than American ones. Let us recall that on August 18 of this year, sources in the Pentagon told the leading American media about an unprecedented incident: two American reconnaissance and strike drones were lost in the skies over Syria as a result of a collision. At the same time, footage from the scene appeared.
    Portal TheDrive wrote that the same type of expensive combat UAVs used by the US Air Force and the CIA to observe and strike were crashed.
    It should be noted that the probability of such a coincidence as the intersection of the flight of two drones at one point is vanishingly small.
    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1602500287
  • Paramon Pictures
    Paramon Pictures 22 October 2020 20: 01 New
    0
    And they lie, and they lie
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 22 October 2020 21: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    Is today UAV day? Already the sixth material related to drones.

    as always, it's good where we are not !!!!
  • Old26
    Old26 22 October 2020 22: 55 New
    +3
    Quote: Greenwood
    Why such a conclusion? Just compare the number of different types of equipment in the armament of both countries and you will see that Azerbaijan has a 2-3-4-fold superiority on all fronts. This is not surprising given Azerbaijan's much larger economy and GDP.
    Quote: Alexey Bobrin
    and including parity.
    Azerbaijan was supplied with equipment in the amount in which he paid for it. Armenians simply do not have money to buy equipment on the same scale.

    Comrade, who wrote that it was delivered in the same quantity and by parity, was somewhat mistaken. After the collapse of the Union, in the three independent countries, according to the OSCE treaty, approximately equal amounts of equipment were left, taken into account under these agreements - i.e. tanks, armored combat vehicles, incl. and with a gun caliber of more than 100 mm, the number of artillery guns of a caliber of more than 100 mm, combat helicopters and aircraft. And that is only because this number was adjusted back in the days of the union by flank restrictions

    Quote: Alexey Bobrin
    This is the data of the RF Ministry of Defense. This was done on purpose. Don't argue! We will not talk about any illegal deliveries.

    You are not entirely correct. Not the supply of the Defense Ministry, but the equipment and weapons left in these three states (former Soviet republics) in accordance with the flank restrictions of the OSCE agreement

    Quote: donavi49
    Well, BMPD writes about the same, according to confirmed objective control (photo / video)

    The authors of the blog presented an updated version of the calculations of the military equipment that was reliably lost in the current Karabakh war to the present day by the sides, based on the published photo and video materials.
    In their opinion, it can be recorded that the Armenian side lost 138 T-72 tanks (of which 44 fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side), 35 infantry fighting vehicles (16 BMP-1, 17 BMP-2, 2 unidentified, of which 14 were captured), 20 other armored vehicles (14 MT-LB with memory, 2 MT-LB, 1 BTR-70, 3 unidentified, of which 4 were captured), 2 armored tractors BTS-2 (captured), 2 self-propelled anti-tank systems (9P148 and 9P149, captured) , 40 ATGM launchers, 12 self-propelled howitzers (4 2S3 and 8 2S1), 50 artillery pieces (2 2A36, 11 D-20, 8 D-1, 1 KS-19, 28 D-30, of which 15 were captured in total), 56 MLRS (51 BM-21, 1 Smerch, 2 WM-80, 1 TOS-1A, 1 unidentified), 9 mortars, 1 ZSU-23-4, 15 SAM combat vehicles (3 Strela-10, 11 "Osa-AK / AKM", 1 "Cube"), elements of the S-300PS air defense system, 8 radars (4 types of ST-68U / UM, 1 P-18, 1 5N63S, 1 1S32, 1 1S91), one PU OTRK " Elbrus ", 306 cars.

    On the Azerbaijani side, 23 tanks were reliably lost (2 T-90S and 21 T-72, with one returned by the Azerbaijani side), 17 BMPs (2 BMP-1, 11 BMP-2, 1 BMP-3, 3 unidentified), 5 BTR- 82A, 2 armored vehicles (Matador and Sand Cat), 1 engineering vehicle IMR-2, 13 vehicles.


    At about 22.30 on 22.X.20 the numbers changed slightly
    The number of tanks lost in Armenia - 147 (including 52 captured), the number of armored vehicles (mainly MT-LB) - was 22, trucks - 310
    In Azerbaijan, the number of losses has not changed. True, an error crept into the calculations. Not 23, but 22 tanks were lost - 3 T-72A, 7 T-72 "Aslan", 10 T-72 (modification not known), 2 T-90

    Quote: Yalquzaq
    Already squeezed at least 49 T-72s on the move of various modifications.

    Already 52
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 29 October 2020 14: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Old26
      At about 22.30 on 22.X.20 the numbers changed slightly
      The number of tanks lost in Armenia - 147 (including 52 captured), the number of armored vehicles (mainly MT-LB) - was 22, trucks - 310
      In Azerbaijan, the number of losses has not changed. True, an error crept into the calculations. Not 23, but 22 tanks were lost - 3 T-72A, 7 T-72 "Aslan", 10 T-72 (modification not known), 2 T-90

      Can you share a link to the source?
  • Atom81
    Atom81 22 October 2020 23: 11 New
    +1
    Actually, the fragments of two downed Bayraktars are already at the disposal of the Armenians, about 10 more, as they claim, were not in their controlled territories. Maybe an antidote has already been found?
    1. Outsider
      Outsider 23 October 2020 09: 00 New
      0
      - And close - no.
  • sen
    sen 23 October 2020 05: 30 New
    +1
    MAM-L is a smart projectile weighing 22 kg. Its range is 8 km (14 km with an inertial navigation system or when the global positioning system is activated).

    For comparison. The range of the "Gibka" air defense missile system is the same as for MANPADS - a maximum of 6 km, and for the "Sosna" air defense system - 10 km.
  • Outsider
    Outsider 23 October 2020 08: 59 New
    +1
    - Actually, it's a bomb ... The engine was removed there ...
  • Eug
    Eug 23 October 2020 09: 18 New
    0
    Semi-active laser? And who lights up? Maybe it's easier to deal with light sources?
  • Gunther
    Gunther 23 October 2020 10: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Author
    Turkish Press: Turkish MAM-L missile has already destroyed hundreds of tanks ...

    belay
    and that's just one rocket ...
    In Guardians of the Galaxy, the leader of the Ravagers Yondu Udonta controls the unmanned shock boom with a high-pitched whistle.
    The main thing here is whistle, explosive ... laughing
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 23 October 2020 16: 12 New
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    Do Armenians have special forces? No ! otherwise they would have already blown up the places where the drones are based and destroyed the operators ...
  • core
    core 24 October 2020 06: 44 New
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    blah blah blah. 100500 have already been destroyed, and they are still milling about at the Armenian trenches ?! where is Stepanakert ?!
  • Klingon
    Klingon 24 October 2020 22: 45 New
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    yeah ... it's time for armored vehicles to develop an all-aspect KAZ and interceptor drones, including those with electronic warfare and EMP
  • Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 27 October 2020 05: 20 New
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    Unmanned aerial vehicles are the future. Alas, it has almost arrived. On the one hand, when they fight each other, there will be just a bunch of scrap metal, without loss of people. On the other hand ... One side of the conflict destroys the manpower of the other, without endangering its fighters. A bit far-fetched, but it looks. as the extermination of an adversary who cannot respond.