Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh

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Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan called on the country's residents to pick up weapon and go to the defense of Karabakh. According to Pashinyan's statement, only in this way can Armenia achieve an acceptable solution to the conflict.

Our task is to fight to the end, without a trace, in the name of the rights of our people. Today, against the background of Azerbaijan's position, to fight for the rights of our people means, first of all, to take up arms and go to defend the Motherland.

- said Pashinyan



In his words, the defense of Karabakh means the protection of the entire Armenian people. Therefore, according to Pashinyan, it is necessary to fight for the freedom of the Armenian people with arms in hand until a diplomatic solution to the conflict is reached. Today Azerbaijan only agrees to the complete surrender of Armenia.

This is not only a question of Karabakh, I don't even want to discuss it. Even the heroes of the 90s, speaking about Karabakh, declared the rights of our people. We said back in the early 90s that there is no Armenia without Karabakh

- added the prime minister.

Pashinyan made an appeal to form volunteer detachments under the general leadership of the Chief of the General Staff of the Armenian Armed Forces. He also called on all businessmen and students from Karabakh to immediately return to Stepanakert and join the ranks of volunteers.

But are there such people today? There is! Privates, contract servicemen, volunteers, officers, generals. We already have legends fighting on the battlefield, they do everything for the victory of the Armenian people. But you need to join and stand next to them

- he said, adding that Armenia has no other choice, the situation on the contact line is rather difficult.

Meanwhile, the Defense Ministry of the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh announces the use of Czech-made 152 mm DANA self-propelled artillery mounts by the Azerbaijani army. According to available information, these self-propelled guns are in service with one of the military units of the central subordination of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, and moving to the conflict zone with subsequent use shows that the corps artillery of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces has suffered serious losses since the beginning of the hostilities.

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    1. +52
      21 October 2020 18: 25
      Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
      And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...
      1. NTD
        +9
        21 October 2020 18: 31
        Quote: svp67
        And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

        He is not interested in Karabakh, but in his life. If he surrenders, they will kill him. If Karabakh goes wrong, its own people will ruin it. Therefore, I decided to go to Abank in the hope that the world community, as it sees many deaths among the peaceful who are fighting, will suddenly stop the war. Cunning fox. For in order to preserve Karabakh, he had to be pro-Russian. Except for Russia, nobody needs it. The Diaspora will be at least one billion, America is not interested in Armenians, but in their national interests. He's the weak link!
        1. +15
          21 October 2020 18: 35
          Hide in the largest embassy, ​​if anything.
          Only whether he will be evacuated is another question.
          1. +29
            21 October 2020 18: 55
            It just became necessary for this scoundrel to put on several thousand more brainless people in wooden jackets.
            1. +38
              21 October 2020 19: 14
              Interesting kid.
              How was the world - with America Vasya-Vasya.
              And when it got hot, he ran to Russia.
              1. -25
                21 October 2020 19: 29
                Quote: kit88
                And when it got hot, he ran to Russia.

                When did you run?
                Is he already asking for something?
                1. +13
                  21 October 2020 20: 08
                  Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Quote: kit88
                  And when it got hot, he ran to Russia.

                  When did you run?
                  Is he already asking for something?

                  Evil tongues speak of frequent calls to the "darkest" ....
                  1. +11
                    21 October 2020 20: 16
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    Evil tongues speak of frequent calls to the "darkest" ....

                    Yes, but such a cricket will not sing a song to the darkest. the darkest will not believe, he is a compass, not a weather vane!
                    1. -5
                      21 October 2020 20: 18
                      Quote: svp67
                      Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
                      And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

                      Pashinyan's 20-year-old son is already at war in Nagorno-Karabakh. Pashinyan's wife is already at war in Nagorno-Karabakh. She is generally a journalist by profession, and therefore, before sending her, she took courses as a fighter.

                      On the side of Azerbaijan, pro-Turkish militants from banned organizations supplied by Erdogan are fighting.
                      On both sides, many people died between the ages of 18 and 45.
                      However, the Azerbaijani side removes from the battlefield not the corpses of Azerbaijani servicemen themselves, but primarily the corpses of pro-Turkish militants fighting on the side of Azerbaijan, in order to hide evidence of Turkey's interference in the hostilities between NKR and Azerbaijan.

                      See in detail - "Where are the sons of the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan now?" -https: //zen.yandex.ru/media/armenia/gde-seichas-synovia-liderov-armenii-i-azerbaidjana-5f782baa71c44f08299833f6

                      See in detail - "Where are the wives of the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan now?" October 15, 2020 - https://yandex.ru/turbo/infotime.co/s/2020/10/15/gde-sejchas-nahodyatsya-zheny-liderov-armenii-i-azerbajdzhana/ -
                      1. +8
                        21 October 2020 20: 25
                        Everything may be so, but it does not change the main thing! And the participation of the son and wife and the presence of militants, all this does not cancel mistakes or deliberate actions to the detriment of our country and, as a result, grave consequences for the people of Armenia !!! And the son and wife can also participate in the war as the son of an alcoholic songstress from Ukraine. Evidence is needed. video.
                        1. +24
                          21 October 2020 20: 32
                          Nothing but SORRY, this war between the peoples of the former Soviet socialist republics can not cause Russia and the Russians!
                        2. +10
                          21 October 2020 20: 38
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          Nothing but SORRY, this war between the peoples of the former Soviet socialist republics can not cause Russia and the Russians!

                          Definitely! hi
                        3. +4
                          21 October 2020 21: 33
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          the Azeri side removes from the battlefield the corpses of not the Azeri servicemen themselves, but primarily the corpses of pro-Turkish militants

                          And I said from the very beginning - it is beneficial for Erdogan that there are as few of them as possible. The number of fighters is important in offensive or defensive operations. And in a peaceful environment or positional confrontation, it is a source of bandits and terrorists. What to do with them?
                          So for Erdogan, this conflict is like mana from heaven. It doesn't matter if they win or lose. The main thing is that a meat grinder.
                        4. +4
                          22 October 2020 04: 49
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          Nothing but SORRY, this war between the peoples of the former Soviet socialist republics can not cause Russia and the Russians!

                          Don't write nonsense. I grew up in the 90s, and I don't care about Armenia and Azerbaijan. I do not perceive them as "fraternal" republics. I have them on the same level with Finland, Poland, Turkey, China and Korea.
                        5. 0
                          22 October 2020 08: 54
                          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                          Do not write nonsense.

                          You are here please for yourself, not for everyone!
                          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                          I grew up in the 90s

                          In this case, this is defining, I grew up in the 70s - 80s and for people like me it hurts.
                        6. 0
                          22 October 2020 09: 01
                          Imagine, in 30-40 years if everything is bad, your grandchildren will say. We grew up in the 30s. I don't care about Yakutia and the Far East. I do not perceive them as fraternal Russian republics. I have them on the same level with Armenia, Ukraine, Finland, Poland, Turkey, China and Korea.
                        7. -3
                          23 October 2020 01: 21
                          Quote: grindz
                          Imagine, in 30-40 years if everything is bad, your grandchildren will say. We grew up in the 30s. I don't care about Yakutia and the Far East. I do not perceive them as fraternal Russian republics. I have them on the same level with Armenia, Ukraine, Finland, Poland, Turkey, China and Korea.

                          Kotu Kuze, as a cynical consumer, cannot understand this. For chewing gum, food, jeans, etc. the consumer will sell any homeland and whoever you want.

                          The cat Kuzya - he is the "cat Kuzya"!
                          Cats don't care about human problems.
                          The main thing for cats is to live in a warm place, not to catch the mice themselves and that their owners feed them well. Otherwise, the cat will shit in slippers for the owners.
                        8. +2
                          22 October 2020 07: 09
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          Nothing but SORRY, this war between the peoples of the former Soviet socialist republics

                          Well, yes, Armenia fled the Union faster than anyone from the Transcaucasian republics, with songs and hooting, Gamsakhurdia is just a baby compared to the Armenian nationalists, they won their first war for Karabakh thanks to the "prison of peoples" ...
                          cannot cause Russia and Russians

                          write for yourself, I did not give you such powers ...
                          In all the Republics where, after the collapse of the Union and in / in Ukraine in 2014, nationalists and nationalist radical fundamentalists came to power, poverty and devastation ...
                        9. 0
                          23 October 2020 01: 28
                          Quote: Lara Croft
                          In all the Republics where, after the collapse of the Union and in / in Ukraine in 2014, nationalists and nationalist radical fundamentalists came to power, poverty and devastation ...

                          And this does not cause you grief?
                        10. 0
                          23 October 2020 08: 51
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          Quote: Lara Croft
                          In all the Republics where, after the collapse of the Union and in / in Ukraine in 2014, nationalists and nationalist radical fundamentalists came to power, poverty and devastation ...

                          And this does not cause you grief?

                          No. Because these figures came to power with the support of their people, who wanted to continue subsidies, only now not from the RSFSR, but from the West or anyone else, even from the devil, if only they could do nothing and not be responsible for their own destiny ...
                        11. -2
                          23 October 2020 09: 06
                          That EVERYONE wanted it so straightforwardly?
                          Quote: Lara Croft
                          Quote Tatiana:
                          And this does not cause you grief?
                          No. Because these figures came to power with the support of their people who wanted to continue subsidies, only now not from the RSFSR, but from the West or anyone else, even from the devil, just to do nothing and not be responsible for their own destiny ...

                          So EVERYONE WANTED straight?
                          Don't talk nonsense! It doesn't work that way. Revolutions are made by a maximum of 6-10% of the population with outside support.
                          Your maximalism is not appropriate.
                        12. +1
                          23 October 2020 19: 53
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          So EVERYONE WANTED straight?

                          Well, everyone wrote the declaration of independence. ...
                          The Baltic States, Ukraine, Armenia and Uzbekistan refused to participate in the all-Union referendum ...
                          When leaving the USSR, not a single republic of the Union had any revolution in power, were former communists ...
                          Your maximalism is not appropriate.

                          And you there too ... I was not born today and the Union was falling apart before my eyes, in all the republics rallies about independence were held, somewhere more radical, somewhere less ...
                        13. -2
                          23 October 2020 20: 33
                          And the FORMER communists are, in your opinion, who?
                          Aren't they communist degenerates from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and Bourgeois revisionists, who not only infiltrated into power, but ended up in power at the very top?
                          Didn't they - in their minority - carried out a BOURGEOIS coup d'etat in the country - in the USSR and in each republic separately - "from above"?

                          I, too, under Gorbachev was in St. Petersburg at a conscious age and I know a lot about that time in some detail. The overwhelming majority of ordinary communists were together with the people against the treacherous policy of the so-called. "new thinking" Gorbachev. But these communists, alas, were not in power and had little influence on anything.
                          You are a maximalist because you do not understand this. For you, as a metaphysics, and not a dialectic, everything is smeared with absolutely one world, i.e. all look the same. You simply do not distinguish between them.
                        14. 0
                          22 October 2020 12: 25
                          You don't need to speak for everyone
                        15. -3
                          21 October 2020 20: 59
                          Quote: neri73-r
                          Everything may be so, but it does not change the main thing! And the participation of the son and wife and the presence of militants, all this does not cancel mistakes or deliberate actions to the detriment of our country and, as a result, grave consequences for the people of Armenia !!! And the son and wife can also participate in the war as the son of an alcoholic songstress from Ukraine. Evidence is needed. video.

                          You will have proof ... Soon ... So they will arrange for Ashotik Pashinyan some kind of injury, so that it is not painful, but spectacular (well, there, a bullet in the fatty layer of the abdomen) - and they will return the major to Yerevan with the Order of the Hero of Armenia. This will be such a bonus for him - for life!
                      2. +8
                        21 October 2020 20: 47
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        On both sides, many people died between the ages of 18 and 45.

                        That is how much anger has accumulated that they do not stop killing, killing and killing. Stop before you completely interrupt each other.
                        1. -3
                          21 October 2020 22: 12
                          Quote: Clear
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          On both sides, many people died between the ages of 18 and 45.

                          That is how much anger has accumulated that they do not stop killing, killing and killing. Stop before you completely interrupt each other.

                          Well, what about. They also saw each other's heads in the outburst of their own Nazism. They even have no prisoners in a month of battles. It's not fashionable to take prisoners from them probably.
                        2. +4
                          21 October 2020 23: 05
                          Quote: Observer2014
                          Quote: Clear
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          On both sides, many people died between the ages of 18 and 45.

                          That is how much anger has accumulated that they do not stop killing, killing and killing. Stop before you completely interrupt each other.

                          Well, what about. They also saw each other's heads in the outburst of their own Nazism. They even have no prisoners in a month of battles. It's not fashionable to take prisoners from them probably.


                          By the way, yes! Newans however !!! You noticed that very well.
                        3. -4
                          22 October 2020 02: 05
                          Quote: Observer2014
                          They also saw each other's heads in the outburst of their own Nazism. They don't even have prisoners of war in a month. Not fashionable to take prisoners prisoners from them probably.
                          In such things, one must be more precise. Namely.

                          First of all. They cut off the head of the CAPTIVE Armenian MILITARY.
                          Question. Who cut it off? Surely not Azerbaijanis, but Erdogan's pro-Turkish ISIS members from Idlib, who are hired by Erdogan and transferred to Azerbaijan for the war with the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh.

                          Secondly. However, if Aliyev is lying that there are no pro-Turkish mercenaries of Erdogan among the advancing parts of Azerbaijan, then this means only one thing - that the crime of cutting off the head of an Armenian falls on the citizens of Azerbaijan - i.e. to Azerbaijanis.
                          In this case, what kind of reconciliation between Armenians and Azerbaijanis and vice versa can we talk about ?! About any!

                          Thus, Erdogan, by his interference in the affairs of Azerbaijan, only adds fuel to the fire.
                          At the same time, Erdogan is guided only by his own interests and the interests of Turkey:
                          1 End the 1915 Turkish Armenian Genocide.
                          2. Subjugate Azerbaijan under your influence.
                          3. Revanchist construction of the neo-Ottoman empire - the so-called. Turan
                          4. Islamist destabilization of the North Caucasus regions in Russia itself.
                          5 Himself to stay in power as a "sultan" in Turkey.
                        4. +13
                          22 October 2020 03: 51
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          First of all. They cut off the head of the CAPTIVE Armenian MILITARY.

                          The video shows Armenians jumping on the corpses of Azerbaijani soldiers. There, some are no better than others. They want to fight and kill each other like animals, let them fight to their health. Neither one nor the other evoke any sympathy in me.
                        5. +3
                          21 October 2020 22: 40
                          Quote: Clear
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          On both sides, many people died between the ages of 18 and 45.

                          That is how much anger has accumulated that they do not stop killing, killing and killing. Stop before you completely interrupt each other.

                          We call people beasts. Beasts are nobler. Kinder. Man is essentially the most bloodthirsty creature .. Not soldiers dying on the battlefield. And "Princes" and "Bai" How fashionable are they now.
                      3. +1
                        21 October 2020 21: 24
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        https://zen.yandex.ru/media/armenia/gde-seichas-synovia-liderov-armenii-i-azerbaidjana-5f782baa71c44f08299833f6




                        Quote: Tatiana

                        Pashinyan's 20-year-old son is already at war in Nagorno-Karabakh. Pashinyan's wife is already at war in Nagorno-Karabakh. She is generally a journalist by profession, and therefore, before sending her, she took courses as a fighter.


                        See in detail - "Where are the sons of the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan now?" -https: //zen.yandex.ru/media/armenia/gde-seichas-synovia-liderov-armenii-i-azerbaidjana-5f782baa71c44f08299833f6

                        See in detail - "Where are the wives of the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan now?" October 15, 2020 - https://yandex.ru/turbo/infotime.co/s/2020/10/15/gde-sejchas-nahodyatsya-zheny-liderov-armenii-i-azerbajdzhana/ -


                        So, the only son of Varchapet (Prime Minister - Armenia - parliamentary republic) Nikola Pashin Ashot (born in 2000).

                        Ashot is a young man open to the press; you can find many of his photographs on the Internet. According to his mother, Anna Hakobyan, a well-known journalist in Armenia, he went to war in Karabakh. Simply because I could not act differently at a difficult moment for the entire Armenian people.

                        Where are the sons of the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan now?
                        “Son, put on your uniform and go,” the words of the wife of the Armenian varchapet are reported by the Russian media.

                        As, however, Anna herself admits, although her son is now in Artsakh, there is no urgent need for Ashot's presence directly on the battlefield yet.



                        This is how Ashot fights at the headquarters.
                      4. NTD
                        +12
                        21 October 2020 21: 30
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Pashinyan's 20-year-old son is already at war in Nagorno-Karabakh. Pashinyan's wife is already at war in Nagorno-Karabakh.

                        Did you believe? If he was in Karabakh, it would definitely not be on the battlefield and 100% of the army would have guarded him. Believing the Soros is not respecting yourself. They are, like a husband or wife, actors. They need to give an Oscar.


                        Interestingly, in his presence there is no need, but there is a need to gather all the people to the front. )))))))))))))))) comedy
                        1. -3
                          21 October 2020 22: 17
                          Quote: MTN
                          What is interesting in his presence there is no need, but there is a need to gather all the people to the front. )))))))))))))))) comedy

                          You gloat in vain! I even doubt that you graduated from the KGB school. I wonder even if you really graduated from the KGB school, what specialty? Surely in a specialty on which you don't need to think with your head.

                          21 oct. Vice President of Turkey Fuat Oktay said that Ankara will send troops to the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, if such a request is received from Azerbaijan.
                          How will this end for Russia? Ultimately, the deployment of Turkish military bases in Azerbaijan - with all the ensuing consequences for Russia.
                        2. +4
                          22 October 2020 03: 55
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          How will this end for Russia? Ultimately, the deployment of Turkish military bases in Azerbaijan - with all the ensuing consequences for Russia.

                          The Turkish base in Karabakh is no better or worse than the Turkish base in Azerbaijan. Karabakh does not even have borders with Russia, unlike Azerbaijan. In any case, the Turkish base in Karabakh is much better than if the Russians die for the ungrateful Armenians.
                        3. 0
                          22 October 2020 04: 54
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          How will this end for Russia? Ultimately, the deployment of Turkish military bases in Azerbaijan - with all the ensuing consequences for Russia.

                          And it won't end with anything. There are NATO bases in Estonia, 100 km from St. Petersburg and in Lithuania, 500 km from Moscow.
                        4. NTD
                          0
                          22 October 2020 08: 05
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          You gloat in vain!

                          I'm not gloating, I just don't believe them.

                          Quote: Tatiana
                          I even doubt that you graduated from the KGB school

                          I wrote that I graduated from the KGB school? I indicated that I have a diploma from the KGB school, if I write Yuri Gagarin, this does not mean that I flew to SPACE and my login has nothing to do with this strategy.

                          Quote: Tatiana
                          Surely in a specialty on which you don't need to think with your head.

                          And do not be rude. I did not offend you, and if your words turned out to be chatter, like your other texts, this is not my fault.

                          Quote: Tatiana
                          How will this end for Russia? Ultimately, the deployment of Turkish military bases in Azerbaijan - with all the ensuing consequences for Russia.

                          you already have azerophobia from your ears. And then how will it end. I'm asking you who do you want to bring home? where are you climbing?
                        5. -1
                          22 October 2020 16: 59
                          Quote: MTN
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          I even doubt that you graduated from the KGB school
                          I wrote that I graduated from the KGB school? I indicated that I have a diploma from the KGB school,
                          Think for yourself about what you have written here!

                          Tell me, how can you HAVE a diploma from the KGB school, if you have NOT FINISHED the KGB school at all?
                          Those. the diploma of the KGB school that you have, then it is either fake or someone else's - i.e. to someone else's name.
                          If I were you, I would not even stutter with such a diploma, and even more so I would NOT brag.

                          I do not even consider it necessary to comment on the rest of the illogicality in your reasoning regarding me!
                          With logic, you are absolutely not all right. If you were to pass me an exam in logic, you would get a "bad" from me.
                          To be a KGB officer (FSB officer) one must have analytical skills.
                      5. +1
                        21 October 2020 22: 13
                        All the same, I am for Azerbaijanis ☝️☝️☝️
                        1. -6
                          21 October 2020 22: 25
                          Quote: Babayka Babaykin
                          All the same, I am for Azerbaijanis ☝️☝️☝️

                          So then you are for Erdogan and his Ottoman revanchism at the very borders of Russia!

                          If you are a Bandera member from Ukraine, then your position is clear.
                      6. +6
                        21 October 2020 22: 22
                        Quote: Tatiana


                        See in detail - "Where are the sons of the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan now?" -https: //zen.yandex.ru/media/armenia/gde-seichas-synovia-liderov-armenii-i-azerbaidjana-5f782baa71c44f08299833f6

                        See in detail - "Where are the wives of the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan now?" October 15, 2020 - https://yandex.ru/turbo/infotime.co/s/2020/10/15/gde-sejchas-nahodyatsya-zheny-liderov-armenii-i-azerbajdzhana/ -

                        These are very reliable and reliable sources of information - articles from Yandex Zen.
                        1. +1
                          22 October 2020 07: 05
                          Quote: Krasnodar
                          These are very reliable and reliable sources of information - articles from Yandex Zen.


                          In fact, there are serious sources in Yandex-Zen. Many information resources are duplicated in Zen.
                          But not in this case)
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              2. +11
                21 October 2020 20: 12
                Quote: kit88
                Interesting kid.
                How was the world - with America Vasya-Vasya.
                And when it got hot, he ran to Russia.

                Nikol Vovanovich, being confident that politicians should always have a very high opinion of themselves, continues to think that he is the most cunning and clever strategist in the geopolitical arena. Faced with a failure on the now defunct contact line in Karabakh, Pashinyan is repeating his favorite political method - to sit on two chairs at once.
          2. +12
            21 October 2020 20: 00
            Quote: Megatron
            Hide in the largest embassy, ​​if anything.

            He will not hide and will not, Aliyev will not go (b) urachek, no one will climb into the territory of Armenia proper. Nothing and no one threatens the life of the Pashinyan-Soros from Azerbaijan. Here they can, well, this is their personal internal question. hi He who sowed the wind will reap the storm (s). She is so multi-vectored - sideways or sideways, that's how lucky!
            1. +3
              21 October 2020 20: 10
              He who sows the wind will reap the storm

              Especially when the Armenians understand what senseless losses they have suffered ...
              1. +3
                21 October 2020 20: 59
                Quote: Alex777
                He who sows the wind will reap the storm

                Especially when the Armenians understand what senseless losses they have suffered ...

                And, unfortunately, they will still carry it.
            2. +9
              21 October 2020 20: 16
              Quote: neri73-r
              She is so multi-vectored - sideways or sideways, that's how lucky!

              In an attempt to save his own skin, Pashinyan will betray Russia, which actually became the guarantor of the physical existence of Armenia. And Pashinyan is not just ready to betray Moscow - he is already doing it.
            3. 0
              21 October 2020 22: 33
              Quote: neri73-r
              Quote: Megatron
              Hide in the largest embassy, ​​if anything.

              He will not hide and will not, Aliyev will not go (b) urachek, no one will climb into the territory of Armenia proper. Nothing and no one threatens the life of the Pashinyan-Soros from Azerbaijan. Here they can, well, this is their personal internal question. hi He who sowed the wind will reap the storm (s). She is so multi-vectored - sideways or sideways, that's how lucky!

              Aliyev, of course, is not stupid, but in vain he let the militants into his land, it may turn out to be his side.
              1. 0
                21 October 2020 23: 27
                Aliyev, of course, is not stupid, but in vain he let the militants into his land, it may turn out to be his side.

                How would it go to him there? On their own land, if something happens, they will dig in.
                1. 0
                  22 October 2020 07: 22
                  Quote: alexmach
                  Aliyev, of course, is not stupid, but in vain he let the militants into his land, it may turn out to be his side.

                  How would it go to him there? On their own land, if something happens, they will dig in.

                  First, by this he showed that he was deceiving everyone by declaring that terrorists were not taking part in this conflict, and this in turn greatly undermines his credibility.
                  Secondly, it depends on who will drop in. Their very presence can serve as a reason for Russia to deliver strikes on clusters of militants. And we will have complete moral equality for this. If we beat them in Syria, then why should we endure them at our side?
                  1. 0
                    22 October 2020 07: 35
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    First, by this he showed that he was deceiving everyone by claiming that the terrorists

                    terrorists are a vague concept, for you they are terrorists, for Turkey they are not, at the same time Russia and Turkey patrol the areas where these type of terrorists are located.
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    that terrorists do not take part in this conflict, and this in turn greatly undermines his credibility.

                    It undermines no more than undermined confidence in Putin after his statement --- IKHTAMNET
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    Their very presence can serve as a reason for Russia to deliver strikes on clusters of militants

                    Well, just the same.
                    Have you identified them at a distance? Maybe you will bomb them in Turkey first, they dug in there earlier
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    And we will have complete moral equal to it

                    yes, really, storyteller.
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    If we beat them in Syria, why should we tolerate them at our side?

                    You have already killed them in Syria 3 times, in any case, Kozhutgetovich reported to the GDP
                    1. +1
                      22 October 2020 08: 17
                      You, dear man, first learn to understand what you hear. The minister reported to the president for 5 years of the operation in Syria and the destruction of ISIS (namely, we are talking about them, not all terrorists in a row) did not happen this year and of course not three times, as you say, but when it was the first time about it declared. The rest is your speculation. Otherwise, yes, terrorists are a vague concept, so this gives us the opportunity to beat anyone we consider terrorists. So here now everything will consist in the presence of a desire to carry out strikes and squeals of other countries will already be on the sidelines.
                      1. 0
                        22 October 2020 10: 08
                        The rest is your speculation. Otherwise, yes, terrorists are a vague concept, so this gives us the opportunity to beat everyone we consider terrorists

                        Well, the Israeli comrade above correctly wrote. Bomb their clusters at once on the territory of Turkey then.
                        1. -1
                          22 October 2020 10: 14
                          Quote: alexmach
                          The rest is your speculation. Otherwise, yes, terrorists are a vague concept, so this gives us the opportunity to beat everyone we consider terrorists

                          Well, the Israeli comrade above correctly wrote. Bomb their clusters at once on the territory of Turkey then.

                          We will not be on the territory of Turkey, but on the territory of Azerbaijan we will probably.
                        2. +1
                          22 October 2020 10: 21
                          We will not be on the territory of Turkey, but on the territory of Azerbaijan we will probably.

                          I strongly doubt that you have not dared to bomb the clusters of terrorists in Ukraine ... well, or have not dared to bomb since 2014, and Russia has much more friendly relations with Azerbaijan. And so far there is no direct threat from there. Do not need these jingoistic patriotic nonsense. The situation in Transcaucasia is difficult from a political point of view, and it cannot be resolved by swoop.
                        3. -1
                          22 October 2020 10: 23
                          I said maybe. It all depends on how the situation will develop further. The conflict is still growing and it is impossible to renounce anything.
                        4. 0
                          22 October 2020 14: 48
                          The conflict is still growing

                          Yes, it does not seem to go. In any case, it has not yet come to direct clashes with the Armenian army, and so far it is limited only to Karabakh, well, maybe with the exception of a few "excesses"
                  2. +1
                    22 October 2020 10: 02
                    can cause milking strikes by Russia on clusters of militants

                    In general, strikes on someone on the territory of Azerbaijan without his consent is a war with Azerbaijan. Does Russia really need a war with Azerbaijan?
                    And about trust - I ask you. No one is obliged to report on what he is doing on his territory. And the same Putin has already told such tales and told lies so many times, and what, has suffered greatly from the lack of trust?
                    1. 0
                      22 October 2020 10: 09
                      "No one is obliged to report on what he is doing on his territory. But the same Putin has already told such tales and told lies so many times, and what, did he suffer greatly from lack of trust?"
                      Nobody is obliged to report, yes, but if these actions pose a threat to the security of another state, then there can be no guarantees of non-interference. There are enough examples of this. The occupation of Syrian territory by Turkey, Israel, states ... and so on.
                      1. +2
                        22 October 2020 10: 23
                        Beating weak Syria is one thing. To beat a strong state with decisive allies is quite another
                        1. -1
                          22 October 2020 10: 25
                          Quote: alexmach
                          Beating weak Syria is one thing. To beat a strong state with decisive allies is quite another

                          But the allies have nothing to do with it. They can fight against Armenia, but not against us.
                        2. +2
                          22 October 2020 14: 50
                          They can fight against Armenia, but not against us.

                          Well, yes ... and they won't dare to shoot down the plane ...
                          Armenia has US allies, did this stop Azerbaijan?

                          Apparently all the same it is worth disinfecting real allies - capable of acting and imaginary.
                        3. 0
                          22 October 2020 10: 26
                          Quote: alexmach
                          Beating weak Syria is one thing. To beat a strong state with decisive allies is quite another

                          Armenia has US allies, did this stop Azerbaijan?
        2. +13
          21 October 2020 18: 52
          Quote: MTN
          If he surrenders, they will kill him.

          Yes, he is already a "political corpse" and dying with weapons on the front line is not the worst choice for him
          Quote: MTN
          ... Except for Russia, nobody needs it.

          Russia definitely doesn't need it anymore ... The wrong bird flight
          1. NTD
            +5
            21 October 2020 19: 15
            Quote: svp67
            Russia definitely doesn't need it anymore ... The wrong bird flight

            He had to think about it and those who supported him during the revolution. What is sown and reaped.
            1. SSR
              +4
              21 October 2020 20: 33
              Quote: MTN
              He had to think about it and those who supported him during the revolution.

              As usual, some people think that they will enter History, but in fact they plunge into it.
              So another zradnik got in trouble.
          2. The comment was deleted.
          3. +3
            21 October 2020 21: 00
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: MTN
            If he surrenders, they will kill him.

            Yes, he is already a "political corpse" and dying with weapons on the front line is not the worst choice for him
            Quote: MTN
            ... Except for Russia, nobody needs it.

            Russia definitely doesn't need it anymore ... The wrong bird flight

            To me, all Russophobes are unpleasant.
        3. +5
          21 October 2020 21: 51
          And what the hell is he to Russia ??
          1. -6
            21 October 2020 23: 34
            Russia needs positions in the Transcaucasus.
            1. +2
              22 October 2020 12: 24
              And where does Pashinyan have to do with it?
              1. -1
                22 October 2020 14: 49
                He is in this very Transcaucasia. And not the last person, at least for the time being, in the only country where Russia has the strongest positions.
        4. -6
          21 October 2020 22: 04
          Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
          This is where he (the Armenian people) asked him to take up arms? In the places of concentration of Armenians in foreign countries? The guzlo will burst. Instantly. Just let them try to call to take up arms where they were allowed to live.
        5. -1
          21 October 2020 23: 20
          as he sees many deaths among the peaceful who are fighting, suddenly stop the war

          by and large, except for the Armenians themselves, no one will fight for Karabakh. If they themselves are not ready to defend it really to the last, then it is stupid for other countries to help them. On the whole, he is doing everything right now, only somewhat belatedly.
        6. +1
          23 October 2020 10: 27
          Exchange your life for thousands of lives of your compatriots
      2. nnm
        +17
        21 October 2020 18: 31
        So he does not allow him to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh. Let them go partisan together with Soros. And on the way, their diaspora will be taken away from us.
        1. +31
          21 October 2020 18: 36
          If the diaspora is collected from all over the world, they will probably be able to return Mount Ararat.
          However, this is not even science fiction, but empty fantasy.
          1. nnm
            +7
            21 October 2020 18: 38
            They may not be able to return it, but they will definitely not be able to redeem it!))) Disassemble one stone at a time and transfer it to yourself.
            1. -6
              21 October 2020 20: 13
              Why would the Turks with the Koran need to find Noah's Ark on Ararat?
              Lenin therefore gave Ararat to the Turks: he did not need it either.
              Now the Turks have the most forbidden zone there.
              1. +2
                21 October 2020 21: 33
                Pashinyan lives in a parallel reality; are you in a parallel story? Tell us when it was Lenin who seized Mount Ararat to give it to Turkey?
                1. 0
                  22 October 2020 12: 30
                  Tell us when it was Lenin who seized Mount Ararat to give it to Turkey?

                  On March 16, 1921, a "treaty of friendship and brotherhood" was signed in Moscow, which established the modern border between Turkey and the Transcaucasian republics, and a number of territories of the former Russian Empire ceded to Turkey. The Soviet government generously ceded to Turkey the regions of Kars, Ardahan, Artvin and others. Everything that the Russian troops heroically conquered at the front against Turkey (and much was won), and even more, the Bolsheviks gave to the Turks.
                  The RSFSR transferred the following lands to Turkey, which were previously part of the Russian Empire: the Kara region, part of the Batumi region, part of the Erivan province. In exchange, Turkey "gave" a small part of the former Batumi region (which had already been part of Russia for almost 40 years), and on the condition of the annexation of this piece of land to Georgia on the terms of autonomy (Adjara) and total trade privileges to Turkey in the port of Batum.

                  It was precisely because of this ... agreement that Armenia lost almost half of its territory, including Mount Ararat.

                  Too lazy to search?
                  https://russian7.ru/post/zachem-v-1921-godu-sssr-otdal-goru-ararat-tu/
                  1. +2
                    22 October 2020 12: 48
                    Quote: Alex777
                    It is precisely on this ... agreement that Armenia lost almost half of its territory, including Mount Ararat

                    The Moscow Treaty (tur. Moskova Anlaşması) is a "treaty of friendship and brotherhood" signed on March 16, 1921 in Moscow, can be compared to the "obscene" Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.
                    Its essence was that Turkey, being among the defeated following the results of the First World War, not only lost the status of the Empire, like Russia, Germany, and Austria-Hungary, but had every chance of losing its statehood.
                    In short, the government of Soviet Russia helped Ataturk create a buffer state in the Caucasus, as opposed to the Entente countries, supported him with money, weapons, and territorial concessions. Which stopped the expansion of England and France in the Middle East. The Baku oil haunted neither one nor the other the whole way.
              2. NTD
                -3
                21 October 2020 21: 35
                Quote: Alex777
                Lenin therefore gave Ararat to the Turks:

                and who owned this Ararat before Lenin handed it over to the Turks? recourse
                1. +7
                  21 October 2020 21: 50
                  before Lenin handed over to the Turks?

                  Until that moment, there was a war, the border recorded only its results. What did Soviet Russia have then nothing else to do except return Ararat to the Armenians? Lost themselves, let them return.
                  1. 0
                    22 October 2020 12: 41
                    Lost themselves, let them return.

                    Badly mistaken.
                    Not only was Ararat given to Ataturk, they were also given 600 tons of gold and weapons. For the promise of friendship.
                    When the treaty was signed with the Turks, there were no Armenians or Azerbaijanis.
                    1. 0
                      22 October 2020 20: 12
                      When the treaty was signed with the Turks, there were no Armenians or Azerbaijanis.

                      They were not visible at the front either. To fight the RSFSR against the Turks for the sake of this mountain is the height of stupidity.
                      1. 0
                        22 October 2020 20: 45
                        To fight the RSFSR against the Turks for the sake of this mountain is the height of stupidity.

                        Who exactly do you mean by the Turks?
                        Lenin did not sign a treaty with the Sultan. wink
                        1. 0
                          22 October 2020 21: 01
                          In any case, Atatürk would not have given up the territory conquered by the Ottoman Empire. So Ararat left.
                        2. -2
                          23 October 2020 12: 34
                          The Turks fell apart as a country after WWI.
                          What territory conquered by the Empire are you talking about?
                          And Ataturk would not exist if it were not for weapons and money from Lenin.
                          Don't write - read the story first. hi
                        3. 0
                          23 October 2020 18: 41
                          The Turks fell apart as a country after WWI.

                          Yeah, fell apart. And even the Greeks were kicked out of Istanbul. Very fast. And without Lenin's money, which, generally speaking, he did not have extra money. The height of stupidity is to fight at that time for the outskirts of the Republic of Ingushetia (Finland, Poland, the Baltic limitrophes, Mount Ararat). Then even the Far East was not part of the RSFSR.
        2. +23
          21 October 2020 18: 47
          Quote: nnm
          So he does not allow him to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh. Let them go partisan together with Soros. And on the way, their diaspora will be taken away from us.

          Pashinyan calls on to fight to the last Armenian. The Azerbaijani lands occupied by the Armenians are in danger. Meanwhile, the Armenians quietly earn money in Moscow and threaten to defeat Baku. However, Azerbaijanis are doing the same. And the most duped people who have not got a place in Moscow are fighting.
          1. +4
            21 October 2020 20: 34
            Quote: Bearded
            Pashinyan calls on to fight to the last Armenian.

            Exactly. What is Hitler, during the agony of the Reich reminds. Soon folksturm of children and old people will drive to the front line
            1. -4
              21 October 2020 22: 10
              It also reminds Levitan - ALL FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE HOMELAND!
              1. +1
                21 October 2020 22: 36
                Quote: Old Kaa
                It also reminds Levitan - ALL FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE HOMELAND!

                Levitan was actually an announcer.
            2. -3
              21 October 2020 22: 37
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Quote: Bearded
              Pashinyan calls on to fight to the last Armenian.

              Exactly. What is Hitler, during the agony of the Reich reminds. Soon folksturm of children and old people will drive to the front line

              And what choice does he have. Either the enemy will be stopped or the massacre of Armenians.
        3. +2
          21 October 2020 19: 31
          Quote: nnm
          Let them go partisan together with Soros.

          Jewish-Armenian guerrilla unit is cool! laughing
          1. +3
            21 October 2020 20: 06
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Quote: nnm
            Let them go partisan together with Soros.

            Jewish-Armenian guerrilla unit is cool! laughing

            The crest is not enough! But then I know who the traitor is! wassat
          2. +2
            21 October 2020 21: 30
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Jewish-Armenian guerrilla unit is cool!

            Soros will not go partisan with a gun. After him "KamAZ" with cash will move - he does not need a machine gun.
        4. +16
          21 October 2020 20: 17
          Quote: nnm
          So he does not allow him to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh. Let them go partisan together with Soros. And on the way, their diaspora will be taken away from us.

          While the prime minister is trying to beg Russia to save him and his country from Azerbaijan's retaliation, President Armen Sarkissian went to Brussels to meet with the NATO Secretary General and the heads of the European Union structures. The scheme is simple: NATO, you will save us from Azerbaijan's just and crushing blow, and we will surrender both Russia and the military base in Gyumri to you, and in general we will be ready to throw ourselves into your arms with giblets.
          1. +7
            21 October 2020 20: 56
            And the foreign ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan will hold talks in Washington with Pompeo.
            It looks like your prediction may come true. I have spoken about this option for a long time.
            1. +4
              22 October 2020 01: 44
              Quote: Beringovsky
              And the foreign ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan will hold talks in Washington with Pompeo.
              It looks like your prediction may come true. I have spoken about this option for a long time.

              The fact that NATO would replace Russia in Transcaucasia was evident from the very beginning, how the Armenians began to fall. Turks settle in Azerbaijan as a "winner", Americans in Armenia as a "defender". Even then, Russia was given a plug.
              1. +2
                22 October 2020 04: 49
                Quote: Gritsa
                The fact that NATO would replace Russia in Transcaucasia was evident from the very beginning, how the Armenians began to fall. Turks settle in Azerbaijan as a "winner", Americans in Armenia as a "defender". Even then, Russia was given a plug.

                And who will get Karabakh? I think you are wrong. It is not for this that Erdogan and Aliyev got involved in a war in which a lot of Azerbaijanis have already died, so that later they will listen to NATO and not touch Karabakh, they will take it away, this is an internationally recognized part of Azerbaijan. After the loss of Karabakh, the war will calm down for a while, but the Armenians will prepare for revenge, which NATO does not need at all, since an attempt at revenge against Armenia means an inevitable conflict with Turkey, which no one needs in NATO, there are enough old conflicts with Turkey, so no one will take Armenia to NATO. As a result, Armenia will remain without Karabakh and face to face with Turkey and Azerbaijan. How will it end without Russia? This could end with the complete loss of statehood by Armenia. No one will fight for the Armenians and only Russia can ensure their salvation as a state. And let the loss of Karabakh be a lesson for the Armenians that they shouldn't spit into the well from which they have to get drunk.
                1. 0
                  22 October 2020 14: 38
                  Quote: bystander
                  And who will get Karabakh? I think you are wrong. Not for that Erdogan and Aliyev got involved in a war in which a lot of Azerbaijanis have already died, so that later they will listen to NATO and not touch Karabakh, they will take it away, this is an internationally recognized part of Azerbaijan. After the loss of Karabakh, the war will calm down for a while, but the Armenians will prepare for revenge, which NATO does not need at all. an attempt at revenge against Armenia means an inevitable conflict with Turkey, which no one needs in NATO, there are enough old conflicts with Turkey, so no one will take Armenia to NATO

                  Karabakh will be Turkish-Azerbaijani (I do not exclude in the future the absorption of the second by the first. Like Austria by Germany). And the Americans will calmly take Armenia to themselves, not claiming Karabakh and not jostling with the Turks. Under the Americans, the Armenians will forget about some of their territorial claims and will be very silky. Because, unlike us, good-natured Russians, Americans know how to do bo-bo very well for their slaves. If desired, the Armenians will break into such pindyuli that they will forget about Karabakh and about Ararat and Kars.
          2. +3
            21 October 2020 22: 07
            .While the prime minister will try to beg Russia to save him and his country

            in my opinion, this shopkeeper is discussing to whom to surrender his understate. The conflict has gone too far, the ober-Armenian's tail is smoking, if he already sobbed in that tone.
        5. +4
          21 October 2020 21: 00
          Quote: nnm
          So he does not allow him to recognize Nagorno-Karabakh. Let them go partisan together with Soros. And on the way, their diaspora will be taken away from us.

          Soros will be the first to turn away from him.
      3. +5
        21 October 2020 18: 35
        ... We already have legends ...
        And also, fairy tales, inventions, exaggerated propaganda and anecdotes about the Armenian radio ...
        Here are just no successes at the front.
        1. +10
          21 October 2020 18: 49
          The Armenians have no success in the offensive.
          But there is a defense.
          The main success is the preservation of an efficient army.
          France, at one time, generally fell in 6 weeks.
          1. +5
            21 October 2020 21: 04
            Quote: Livonetc
            France, at one time, generally fell in 6 weeks.

            I counted, from the German border to the Spanish border, across France - 900 km. Did the enemy stop at all? what
            1. +3
              21 October 2020 21: 30
              the French surrendered earlier ...
            2. +1
              21 October 2020 21: 59
              Quote: Clear
              I counted, from the German border to the Spanish border, across France - 900 km. Did the enemy stop at all?

              And what does Spain have to do with it? The capture of France ended with the signing of a surrender. June 22, 1940. And it began on May 10 of the same year. And the enemy did not stop. Carefully, on the operational map, and not on Google maps, study the movement of the troops, if you are interested, and you will see that the same Guderian traveled no more than 21 kilometers on May 300, which is quite enough for tanks ...
          2. 0
            21 October 2020 21: 15
            And France was not trampled by the Azerbaijanis.
          3. +2
            21 October 2020 22: 00
            Quote: Livonetc
            The Armenians have no success in the offensive.
            But there is a defense.
            The main success is the preservation of an efficient army.
            France, at one time, generally fell in 6 weeks.

            Alas, for Armenians one cannot win a war by defense.
            1. +1
              22 October 2020 04: 36
              Defense-defense strife. The Battle of Kursk was also a defensive operation, after which there was a turning point in the whole war.
              They defended against Bonaparte in such a way that then, in fact, there was no need to attack. So that...
          4. 0
            21 October 2020 22: 12
            Quote: Livonetc
            France, at one time, generally fell in 6 weeks.

            Some kind of dumb parallel. And Zanzibar lost the war to the British in general in 38 minutes - so what?
            1. +1
              22 October 2020 02: 48
              There is another example - 08.08.08. The same mountains, modern weapons at that time (almost the same). The result is 5 days of fighting and 4 brigades defeated or running. And this is without any UAVs for Russia and with normal air defense for the Georgians.
      4. +14
        21 October 2020 18: 42
        Quote: svp67
        And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

        Why does the person who is most guilty of the situation in this situation call on the people for self-sacrifice? He himself led him into this bloody dead end, and now - to arms, save your homeland!
        1. NTD
          +5
          21 October 2020 18: 48
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Why does the person who is most guilty of the situation in this situation call on the people for self-sacrifice?

          Because he is a JOURNALUGA, he knows how to whistle. And given that the people chose him, they believe him. They have everything from beginning to end like an Armenian radio.
        2. +5
          21 October 2020 21: 06
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: svp67
          And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

          Why does the person who is most guilty of the situation in this situation call on the people for self-sacrifice? He himself led him into this bloody dead end, and now - to arms, save your homeland!

          Incl. and because of the "holy" belief in the "civilized" west.
        3. +2
          21 October 2020 22: 16
          [
          Quote: Mountain Shooter

          Why does the person who is most guilty of the situation in this situation call on the people for self-sacrifice?

          Funny question. Is he the first one?)
      5. +8
        21 October 2020 18: 50
        Yes, he wanted to sneeze. The main thing for him is to fulfill the task of the western masters - to involve Russia in the war. Only the Kremlin is also not stupid.
        1. +4
          21 October 2020 21: 08
          Quote: Captive
          Yes, he wanted to sneeze. The main thing for him is to fulfill the task of the western masters - to involve Russia in the war. Only the Kremlin is also not stupid.

          And our guys for what values ​​will die there? I won't let it go.
          1. -1
            21 October 2020 22: 42
            ... And what kind of values ​​will our guys die for?

            And this is Gazprom decides) It also determines the boundaries of our national interests by its own understanding, no? Syria, for example - here they squealed about 'beat on the distant approaches' and other crap, although the truth was lying in plain sight and, by the way, was not hiding too much.
            Well, now you can tell people something about, like, 'the threat to the security of the Caspian region and in general ...'
            But you can rest assured - war anywhere is not included in the plans of our government. The fuss of the Prigogine paramilitaries does not count. Russia will not get involved anywhere. Too expensive. Being an 'arms baron' is yes. And it is right.
            1. -4
              21 October 2020 23: 00
              But you can rest assured - war anywhere is not included in the plans of our government. The fuss of the Prigogine paramilitaries does not count. Russia will not get involved anywhere. Too expensive. Being an 'arms baron' is yes. And it is right.

              Are you aware of the plans of our government?)
      6. +12
        21 October 2020 19: 02
        Quote: svp67
        Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
        And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

        Summoned, mobilized, and he himself will run away .. It's not for him to ride in a camouflage at rallies calls to shout "Russia out .."
        A muddy "comrade" .. And rightly so, that Russia is silent, while there is no one to negotiate with
        Here is a famous photo that speaks for itself .. hi

        They tried to explain something to him .. But
        1. +4
          21 October 2020 20: 19
          Quote: Gordei
          Quote: svp67
          Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
          And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

          Summoned, mobilized, and he himself will run away .. It's not for him to ride in a camouflage at rallies calls to shout "Russia out .."
          A muddy "comrade" .. And rightly so, that Russia is silent, while there is no one to negotiate with
          Here is a famous photo that speaks for itself .. hi

          They tried to explain something to him .. But

          Pashinyan and the congregation of the mentally ill in his team were confident that Russia would drag chestnuts out of the fire for Armenia, and unilaterally support Yerevan. The Kremlin made it clear that Pashik's adventure would not work.
      7. +2
        21 October 2020 19: 12
        It remains only to confirm what has been said by personal example ...
      8. +2
        21 October 2020 20: 07
        Quote: svp67
        Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
        And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

        He is in a leadership position, think what you are asking? fellow
        1. +7
          21 October 2020 21: 09
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Quote: svp67
          Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
          And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

          He is in a leadership position, think what you are asking? fellow

          Well, then let him take the biggest gun for himself.
      9. -7
        21 October 2020 20: 21
        He has a son at the front
        1. +1
          21 October 2020 21: 10
          Quote: Artavazdych
          He has a son at the front

          Thank God that the son did not go to his father, a provocateur.
      10. 0
        22 October 2020 00: 19
        Pay attention to Pashinyan's calls and a strange statement about the appearance of 152mm (speculation about losses in the barrel among the Azerbaijanis triumphantly conceals the options:
        A) strengthening the grouping on a possible nsou
        B) replacement of the barrel at the site due to the exhaustion of the barrel resource
        C) demonstration actions (disinformation) - in the photo, the sau, looking with its trunks orientationally to the south-south-west, have a color that is not typical for the ZBD.
      11. Mwg
        +1
        22 October 2020 05: 54
        And here's the news:
        https://kadara.ru/nagornyj-karabah/190255-armyane-podnyali-v-karabahe-rossijskij-flag/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
      12. 0
        22 October 2020 07: 48
        Sochi taxi drivers are unlikely to support him. And Martirosyan and Galustyan too.
      13. 0
        22 October 2020 11: 37
        He won't go. His two brothers have served urgently.
      14. 0
        22 October 2020 14: 49
        Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh

        Is it not weak to shout "Y-ho-ho" so that Armenians somewhere in America, Geyrope, Russia can hear it? And then he just looked to the west all the time - the west will help us, yes, he was doing Russia all the time. So I helped. Got a game of democracy and gazing to the west. Now it's time not to call, but to run to the bathhouse, to wash off the slops in which he dipped himself ...
    2. +20
      21 October 2020 18: 28
      In my opinion, he no longer knows what to do. Journalist, in a word. It can only produce verbal pathos.
      After the defeat of the regular Armenian units, what will ordinary militias do? Without training, without combat coordination? Where is the money of the Armenian diaspora? Where are at least Chinese drones with hired operators? There is nothing.
      The announced counterstrike in the south failed again.
      1. NTD
        +2
        21 October 2020 18: 49
        Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
        In my opinion, he no longer knows what to do. Journalist, in a word. It can only produce verbal pathos.

        Absolutely.

        Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
        After the defeat of the regular Armenian units, what will ordinary militias do? Without training, without combat coordination? Where is the money of the Armenian diaspora? Where are at least Chinese drones with hired operators? There is nothing.
        The announced counterstrike in the south failed again.

        Quite right. Now he is saving his own skin.
        1. -2
          21 October 2020 20: 45
          Quote: MTN
          Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
          In my opinion, he no longer knows what to do. Journalist, in a word. It can only produce verbal pathos.

          Absolutely.

          Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
          After the defeat of the regular Armenian units, what will ordinary militias do? Without training, without combat coordination? Where is the money of the Armenian diaspora? Where are at least Chinese drones with hired operators? There is nothing.
          The announced counterstrike in the south failed again.

          Quite right. Now he is saving his own skin.

          Enough, Azerbaijanis, we will figure out what's what without your agitation! Don't fill the blank with your posts.
      2. +11
        21 October 2020 21: 12
        Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
        Where is the money of the Armenian diaspora?

        Don't worry, the Armenian diaspora has them Yes
      3. +4
        21 October 2020 22: 13
        Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
        Where is the money of the Armenian diaspora?

        Money of the Armenian Diaspora in Moscow. And Moscow, contrary to Washington's wishes, which is broadcast by Pashinyan, is somehow in no hurry to substitute for Pashinyan. Lukashenka even played back and forth, showing his "multi-vector" nature. And this one is an outspoken enemy. He had a vector to the West - now let him feel how this vector hurts at the fifth point ...

        I do not support either one or the other. Both are good. But at least Aliyev did not play like a snake. "Not a friend, not an enemy, but so ..." And this one sang to the western tune - now let the tie chew.

        I just feel sorry for the people - both. But the ambitions to hell both in Yerevan and in Baku. And both those and others are warmed up from the outside. Therefore, the men will continue to shoot each other until Erdogan and Trump get drunk on their blood ...
      4. -4
        21 October 2020 22: 17
        Stalin also did not know when he called: Everyone to the Front?
        1. +1
          22 October 2020 05: 23
          To me, too, he compared Stalin and this pygmy Pashinyan. Stalin did not trade his people to please the West.
    3. -4
      21 October 2020 18: 29
      Pashinyan made an appeal to form volunteer detachments under the general leadership of the Chief of the General Staff of the Armenian Armed Forces. He also called on all businessmen and students from Karabakh to immediately return to Stepanakert and join the ranks of volunteers.

      And why are they? What can they do? Exchange your life for artillery shells? That Azerbaijanis would exhaust the resources of their artillery barrels? Rave. The war is lost, you need to negotiate while at least something remains.
      And here is an illustration of what will happen to the volunteers:
      1. +1
        21 October 2020 18: 42
        If there is a supply of weapons and ammunition from Russia, then you can try to fill up with meat. But it is necessary to mobilize an additional 100 or 200 thousand people a lot.
        1. +5
          21 October 2020 18: 48
          No difference. The army of Azerbaijan is many times more quantitatively.
        2. +16
          21 October 2020 19: 36
          Why would Russia bring them ammunition? We have excellent relations with Azerbaijan, why spoil them?
          1. +11
            21 October 2020 20: 28
            There is such an anecdote - an Israeli tank is chasing a Palestinian, a Palestinian runs and periodically fires at the tank from a machine gun, but then the cartridges run out, he stops and the tank stops, a Jew looks out of the tank hatch and asks - Why don't you shoot?
            The proud Palestinian answers - Out of cartridges.
            Jew - Can I sell them to you? ...
          2. -2
            21 October 2020 22: 24
            Excellent ?? Do you mean that Azerbaijan is a member of the CSTO, EurEC, votes against Ukraine and sent its soldiers to Syria? No, instead of Pro-Russian Aliyev, all this was done by the "little weed" Pashinyan
      2. NTD
        +6
        21 October 2020 18: 50
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        Rave. The war is lost, you need to negotiate while at least something remains.

        The train left. He said such words today that Ilham Aliyev will punish him for these words. He's stupid. He had to agree to the broadest autonomy.

        Greed ruined the frayer.
        1. +10
          21 October 2020 21: 14
          Quote: MTN
          The greed of the frayer FORruined.
          Are you from the Soviet KGB school?
          1. NTD
            0
            21 October 2020 21: 41
            Quote: Clear
            Are you from the Soviet KGB school?

            Ruined, will it go?)
            I am a mere mortal.
            1. +5
              21 October 2020 21: 46
              Quote: MTN
              Quote: Clear
              Are you from the Soviet KGB school?

              Ruined, will it go?)
              I am a mere mortal.

              It will do. Yes The Soviet KGB school is precision! bully
          2. +4
            21 October 2020 21: 54
            This is google translation. I got burned, however.
      3. +4
        21 October 2020 20: 27
        Now, first of all, we need to stabilize the front in the south. Azerbaijan has an operational advantage. They choose where to go. Either from Gadrut to Shusha, or from Zangelan to Lachin .... They have a lot of options. The Armenians now have to close off every mountain pass in the South. You don't need a lot of equipment for this. You just have to dig into the ground at every height, every one. This requires people. The capture of Hadrut showed that the Armenians do not have enough people
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    4. +4
      21 October 2020 18: 30
      It turns out that there is nothing to agree on in Moscow. War until the last Armenian, it's interesting, the more Azerbaijanis die, the more military victory Aliyev will need ...
      1. +4
        21 October 2020 21: 19
        Quote: Dave36
        War to the last Armenian, it's interesting, the more Azerbaijanis die, the more military victory Aliyev will need ...
        These are the laws of war.
    5. +17
      21 October 2020 18: 31
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      Where is the money of the Armenian diaspora?

      Here are misers, if everyone had thrown themselves off long ago Baku would have been taken. They love their homeland only in words.
      They don't need this Karabakh.
      1. +11
        21 October 2020 18: 40
        And what can they do without Russia's help?
        1. NTD
          +7
          21 October 2020 18: 50
          Quote: Pessimist22
          And what can they do without Russia's help?

          Can't do anything !!!!
          1. +10
            21 October 2020 21: 20
            Quote: MTN
            Quote: Pessimist22
            And what can they do without Russia's help?

            Can't do anything !!!!

            Why then. The choir of Armenian Russophobes, led by Pashinyan, sang loudly.
            1. NTD
              +1
              22 October 2020 08: 08
              Quote: Clear
              Why then. The choir of Armenian Russophobes, led by Pashinyan, sang loudly.

              Well then, let the Sorosyatov flag be in their hands and with a song.
    6. +5
      21 October 2020 18: 33
      Nikol Pashinyan called on the residents of the country

      Has the call been canceled?
      Or is it not a mob reserve?
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      2. +4
        21 October 2020 18: 46
        Drafting, mobilization and militia are three different things.
        1. +3
          21 October 2020 21: 22
          Quote: antiaircrafter
          Drafting, mobilization and militia are three different things.

          Only all three different things will end the same.
    7. +3
      21 October 2020 18: 34
      Quote: svp67
      Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
      And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

      I think both Soros and Bill Gates will approve of the sacrifice, and Gates will throw in more vaccines - to consolidate the result, the goal of the corner government, which the President of JFK spoke about - to create man-made chaos and reduce the world's population to a maximum of 500 million people, is out of the question.
      1. +8
        21 October 2020 20: 21
        Quote: Gunter
        Quote: svp67
        Pashinyan urged the Armenian people to take up arms and defend Karabakh
        And he will take that weapon and for the first time the ranks will be? Or Soros won't let go ...

        I think both Soros and Bill Gates will approve of the sacrifice, and Gates will throw in more vaccines - to consolidate the result, the goal of the corner government, which the President of JFK spoke about - to create man-made chaos and reduce the world's population to a maximum of 500 million people, is out of the question.

        The fact is that Pashinyan will not succeed in the West either. Armenia is interesting for the West only as a counterweight to Russia. Yes, statements are possible that are pleasing to the Armenian ear, but have no practical meaning. Karabakh is an internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan and Brussels, however, like the whole world, recognizes the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.
    8. +5
      21 October 2020 18: 35
      The Russians ... help the Pashinyans ... everything to the market .... we will help the Armenians to leave to defend the Motherland ...........))) Armenians of all countries, unite ... and to Armenia .. .Motherland calls ...)
    9. NTD
      +7
      21 October 2020 18: 36
      He is the grandson of a fascist. He is a westernized sorrel. He is in politics ZERO. He did not understand that the founder of modern Armenia is Russia, and to kick Russia with posters with "compliments" in Armenia to show anti-Russian antics turned out to be bad for him. Ilham Aliyev took advantage of this. And now the war is not for blitzkrieg but for the destruction of manpower and equipment. For as they feel the strength, they immediately look for the land of their ancestors from the neighbor. They are not peace-loving people. They screwed up in politics. They destroyed both the army and their children.

      Correctly Leontiev said, without Russia they are ZERO WITHOUT STICKS. Although they made the poor fellow apologize for the truth.
      1. -4
        21 October 2020 18: 40
        It is believed that Pashinyan is simply merging Karabakh for the sake of rapprochement with the United States and NATO.
        I think the US gave Armenia an ultimatum, it is necessary to give Karabakh for the sake of integration with the West, since Azerbaijan is an ally of the US and NATO.
        It is not easy that the Armenian air defense system is inactive, these UAVs are not so effective.
        1. +5
          21 October 2020 18: 46
          Quote: Voentorg
          It is believed that Pashinyan is simply merging Karabakh for the sake of rapprochement with the United States and NATO.

          Not the fact that it is special, but all this is beneficial for the "West". Russia will be blamed for the loss of Karabakh, with corresponding hysteria. In the absence of threats (no one is going to attack Armenia itself), it will be possible to set a course for further distance with Russia. Why our government did not prevent this war is not clear. It is definitely not beneficial to us.
        2. NTD
          -3
          21 October 2020 18: 52
          Quote: Voentorg
          It is believed that Pashinyan is simply merging Karabakh for the sake of rapprochement with the United States and NATO.
          I think the US gave Armenia an ultimatum, it is necessary to give Karabakh for the sake of integration with the West, since Azerbaijan is an ally of the US and NATO.

          at the cost of a commoner life? they will kill him for it. Although the devil knows ..........
        3. +1
          21 October 2020 19: 21
          destroy the pro-Russian Karabakh clan, then calmly as Yatsynyuk will live in the United States for 30 pieces of silver.
        4. -10
          21 October 2020 19: 23
          if Azerstan wins over Karabakh, it will definitely be a defeat for us. because the next will be Transnistria, Ossetia, Donbass. and how much energy will we spend to extinguish these eternally smoldering dots?
    10. +6
      21 October 2020 18: 38
      smile Uh-huh, "Burnt by the Sun-2" where they go to storm the castle with drekol, about the same thing. Pashinyan wants to be a military genius ... Father of all Armenians. smile
    11. -30
      21 October 2020 18: 39
      Glory to Ukraine. The main thing is that there are no Russians
      1. nnm
        +6
        21 October 2020 20: 16
        I'm embarrassed to ask, but what does Ukraine have to do with it and what does the Russians have to do with it? And what are you doing, in this case, on the Russian site?))))
      2. +6
        21 October 2020 20: 33
        Quote: Cowbra
        The main thing is that there are no Russians

        Jump, maybe it will feel better
    12. DAQ
      +7
      21 October 2020 18: 39
      In principle, Armenia has something to counterattack. But for some reason, the leadership is playing some strange game. Toli are trying to play a noble sacrifice and thus gain international support. I do not know. In this way, you can really become a victim. Or is it a game, like Karabakh is a separate state, and only Armenian volunteers go to fight.
      Without cover for normal air defense systems with calculations trained in Russia, without long-range systems, without using geography (in the south, the regular army of Armenia could still cross the border and go "oblique formation" there is relief that is needed for such a maneuver, under the cover of military air defense "beech and torus "plus s-300) will fail. And then it will be too late to help the Karabakh self-defense forces.

      Well, if this is the way Pashinyan's boobs are crumpled, then all the Iskander tornadoes torah beech s-300 tanks and everything else can be sent to the museum. What for then bought, got into debt because of this weapon.
      Nobody will claim the territory of the generally recognized Armenia.
      1. NTD
        -6
        21 October 2020 18: 53
        Quote: Nasdaq
        In principle, Armenia has something to counterattack.

        Armenia ?????????????? or Karabakh? If for Armenia, then for Armenia, the Nakhichevan troops are more than enough. They are armed to the teeth and well prepared. Moreover, Kasyrga stands there in huge quantities.
        1. DAQ
          +4
          21 October 2020 19: 06
          In principle, no one doubts that this is a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
          I understand your position, but from a purely military point of view, it is probably not wise to miss the moment.
          Of course, you can wait for Azerbaijan to "secure" the border, dig in, so to speak.
          In general, as they said about General Ariel Sharon: a military man who preferred to shoot, and not "think for a long time"
          The situation is probably the same here.
          Will there be victims? I think yes.
          But if, as now to send "volunteers", then there will be more victims, and the territory cannot be kept.
          Then it's better to capitulate right away. It makes sense to die if there is no support from Armenia.
          Without the direct participation of Armenia, without a normal air defense system, one cannot stay there. You can send people to the slaughter, this will only delay the advance, but will not stop.
          1. +6
            21 October 2020 19: 19
            I also think that half measures will not work here, either Armenia is openly rushing to war against Azerbaijan, or it loses Karabakh.
            1. DAQ
              0
              21 October 2020 19: 29
              Armenia itself is in the CSTO. Even if the Azerbaijani troops enter from Nakhichevan, Armenia will not lose its territory anyway. And then normal negotiations can begin. In such a situation at the international level, the movement will go immediately.
              If so, then the end is more or less predictable.
              1. NTD
                +1
                21 October 2020 21: 46
                Quote: Nasdaq
                Armenia itself is in the CSTO.

                The novel, when the Azerbaijanis read the proposals that Armenia is in the CSTO, everyone laughs. Kazakhs will not shed the blood of an Azerbaijani for the sake of Armenians, and Batya will not allow either. Armenia only has Russia. The question is different. If Armenia (with facts) attacks Azerbaijan, in this case even Saint Vazgen himself will not help them, let alone Russia.
                1. 0
                  22 October 2020 01: 00
                  Quote: MTN

                  The novel, when Azerbaijanis read the proposals that Armenia is in the CSTO, everyone laughs ... Armenia only has Russia. The question is different. If Armenia (with facts) attacks Azerbaijan, in this case even Saint Vazgen himself will not help them, let alone Russia.

                  Russia is the CSTO. If Russia announces an unmanned zone over Karabakh tomorrow, what will Azerbaijan do? What will Turkey do? A couple of Dryers and all your drones were crying bitterly. What will you do next? Let me remind you that in 08, the Russian Federation hammered Georgia, there were a lot of screams, but no one fit in for it.
                  It won't fit for you either.
                  1. NTD
                    +1
                    22 October 2020 08: 10
                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    It won't fit for you either.

                    If I were you, I would not write that. Georgia is not Azerbaijan.
          2. NTD
            +3
            21 October 2020 19: 26
            Quote: Nasdaq
            In principle, no one doubts that this is a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

            You understand that, but he is trying to cheat the journalist by calling the term "people of Karabakh" such a people never existed. They are Armenians.
            Quote: Nasdaq
            But if, as now to send "volunteers", then there will be more victims, and the territory cannot be kept. Then it's better to surrender immediately.

            He is already a political corpse. Pashinyan understands that he has lost. And his country lost with him. He is only fighting to mitigate this defeat. To then declare: "I did everything I could!"

            Quote: Nasdaq
            Without the direct participation of Armenia, without a normal air defense system, one cannot stay there.

            De facto, they have been participating since the early days. 90% of the soldiers have Armenian passports. Born in Armenia. It's just played in terms.
            1. DAQ
              +3
              21 October 2020 19: 37
              Yes, most of the personnel of the Karabakh self-defense forces are from Armenia. But all the most effective weapons in Armenia are idle.
              It seems that Pashinyan hopes for something, international support or something else.
              In general, if it goes on like this, we will soon find out the name of the new prime minister of Armenia.
              1. NTD
                0
                21 October 2020 19: 44
                Quote: Nasdaq
                But all the most effective weapons in Armenia are idle.

                Iskander and 4 units. Su-30? Apart from this, there is nothing special. De facto, the amount of equipment in Karabakh is greater than in Armenia. Russia protects Armenia. Therefore, the bulk is in Karabakh.

                But Iskander and Sushki will not solve the whole problem.
                1. DAQ
                  +1
                  21 October 2020 19: 48
                  Air defense. And this is a very significant factor in this war.
                  Iskanders are also (4 launchers and 25 missiles according to SIPRI) attack helicopters. In general, there are not only weapons. The southern flank begs for an "oblique formation". Who knows what it is, he will understand.
              2. -1
                21 October 2020 23: 13
                Quote: Nasdaq
                It feels like Pashinyan hopes for something

                He doesn't seem to be hoping for anything in particular. The planning horizon has narrowed to weeks: do nothing at all, surrender - you will be lost tomorrow, send new people to the front - you will hold out on duty this day, you will not experience collapse ...
                As the fencing teacher said in Game of Thrones: "What do we say to the god of death? - Not today!.."
      2. +2
        21 October 2020 20: 36
        Quote: Nasdaq
        In principle, Armenia has something to counterattack.

        What counterattacks, the Azerbaijani army is not included in direct combat, they simply destroy the enemy remotely.
      3. 0
        21 October 2020 23: 20
        Quote: Nasdaq
        Well, if this is the way Pashinyan's boobs are crumpled, then all the Iskander tornadoes torah buki s-300 tanks and everything else can be sent to the museum. What for then bought, got into debt because of this weapon

        they never pay. used to have everything for free
        1. DAQ
          +3
          21 October 2020 23: 53
          Boo weapons and old ammunition from the warehouses may be free, and even then not a lot and not in the best condition. For the new, they pay at a discount as a member of the CSTO. But in terms of debts, everything seems to be of rank. Pay on time. The previous management transferred key sectors of the economy to Russian state-owned companies.
          Only Pashinyan drove to the Russian monopoly companies at the beginning of the barrel: Gazprom Armenia, the South Caucasian railway "daughter of Russian Railways" (searches, criminal cases, tax evasion). As a result, gas is more expensive for Armenia than in Europe. In the spring, there were seams at all: in Europe, gas at hubs fell below $ 50 per 1000m2, but Pashinyan could not get a discount. So it seems to be paying $ 150 per 1000m2.
          Aliyev saw this disgrace, well, and thought that since Pashinyan was knocking with an ax on the log on which he was sitting, then probably a good moment.
    13. +25
      21 October 2020 18: 40
      He also called on all businessmen and students from Karabakh to immediately return to Stepanakert and join the ranks of volunteers.

      Why only from Karabakh?
      1. +1
        21 October 2020 20: 28
        Quote: Serpet
        Why only from Karabakh?

        For the rest, he will not find all the right words.
    14. +12
      21 October 2020 18: 40
      "Even the heroes of the 90s, speaking about Karabakh, declared about the rights of our people. Back in the early 90s, we said that there is no Armenia without Karabakh .." (c) And what are you ... a bad man of Robert Kocharyan in prison caulked? Or do you think you can win with your Soros? It's not for you to arrange coups, here you have to fight, risk your life. And not only a stranger. Oo-oo-oo-face!
      1. +11
        21 October 2020 20: 27
        Quote: Captive
        "Even the heroes of the 90s, speaking about Karabakh, declared about the rights of our people. Back in the early 90s, we said that there is no Armenia without Karabakh .." (c) And what are you ... a bad man of Robert Kocharyan in prison caulked? Or do you think you can win with your Soros? It's not for you to arrange coups, here you have to fight, risk your life. And not only a stranger. Oo-oo-oo-face!

        Pashinyan naively believes that the maneuver (President Sargsyan went to Brussels to meet with the NATO Secretary General and the heads of the EU structures) will remain unnoticed in Moscow. And in vain. Russia will appreciate the behavior of its narrow-minded "allies". After all, such an ally is worse than any enemy ...
    15. +15
      21 October 2020 18: 41
      Such an appeal to the people, better than any other military reports, shows who had a tryndets on the front.
    16. +18
      21 October 2020 18: 42
      They would call from our city ... both sides of the conflict)
    17. +10
      21 October 2020 18: 44
      If there have already been such calls for the formation of a people's militia, and you cannot say otherwise, then the Armenians are in complete trouble and this is a sign of the complete profanation of the political and military leadership of Armenia-Artsakh, who have shown their incompetence, the loss of Karabakh will be reflected in all spheres of life in Armenia , I dare to assume that Pashinyan and co have already come to terms with the loss of NPOs, unfortunately they do not have an analogue of our Strelkov-Girkin in Artsakh
    18. NTD
      -2
      21 October 2020 18: 44
      Pashinyan made an appeal to form volunteer detachments under the general leadership of the Chief of the General Staff of the Armenian Armed Forces.

      He sends a commoner for slaughter.

      Today, against the background of Azerbaijan's position, fight for the rights of our people - means, first of all, take up arms and go to defend the Motherland

      The Iravan Khanate has already been given the rights to their people in our land. What other rights does he want? Themselves from Argentina to California shake and give them land. They really do not live at home, but here they are Kars, Javekheti, Karabakh, as they quarrel with Iran and there they will start pumping rights.

      Back in the early 90s, we said that there is no Armenia without Karabakh

      This madman is doing everything to anger Aliyev.

      He also called on all businessmen and students from Karabakh to immediately return to Stepanakert and join the ranks of volunteers.

      Why don't you send your son? Such a normal person will not offer. The whole world speaks to him in 3 funny letters from Karabakh, starting from the UN and he calls people to death.

      This little magpie understands that he lost Karabakh. He can no longer meet with Aliyev, because Aliyev has nothing to offer. Azerbaijan almost took the regions. He also cannot return Karabakh, they will definitely kill him, this is the last chance ............ the last frontier. But in any case, he will be sued.

      The diplomats of Azerbaijan now need to do good work with the Eurozone and Russia, that this little magpie, not only does not respect the OSCE and the UN, but also lets its people go to slaughter. Correct and accurate diplomacy is needed here.

      THE PEOPLE OF KARABAKH does not exist. There are the Armenians of Karabakh. By this he confuses everyone. Considering his appeals, it seems that there is no longer any equipment and cannon fodder.
      1. -10
        21 October 2020 18: 48
        Well, in general, the Armenians are the indigenous inhabitants of Karabakh and Nakhichevan since ancient times, these are their lands, even according to international law. But the motivation to fight with them is not very ...
        1. NTD
          +3
          21 October 2020 19: 35
          Quote: Voentorg
          this is their land, even under international law.

          Can you share by what right? Karabakh is a name that is not Armenian to Azerbaijani.

          Quote: Voentorg
          Well, in general, Armenians are the indigenous inhabitants of Karabakh and Nakhichevan

          Do you even read your archives? They were settled in this region, Tsarist Russia. 1828 year.

          And since the topic is about law, then you are not in one international treaty, not in the Turkmenchay treaty, or the Kurekchay treaty, there is not a single word about them. The Turkmenchay treaty is associated with the Iravan Khanate (present-day Armenia) and the Kurekchay Treaty is the Karabakh Khanate. Read wherever you want and show me what is written about the Armenians .... You have heard and read exactly their story.

          And the founder of Ar-tsa-ha is Hasan Jalal. Not Ashot Petrosyan. And given their surname (Turkic) assimilation happened to us and not vice versa. Have you ever heard the name ASHOT-ZADE? or Vazgenoglu? Or Asrunzade? But even Kim Kardashian has a Turkic surname.

          If you can prove it to me with documents (internationally recognized documents), I will apologize and acknowledge your innocence.

          But if we are talking about the fact that 3000 years ago the Armenians lived here, okay, I agree, then let's remake the whole world according to this era?
          1. 0
            21 October 2020 20: 38
            So the Armenians have been there since BC. live, just Russia helped them to return in 1828, and Azerbaijanis are newcomers from Turkestan. From a moral point of view, I am on the side of the Armenians. Why 1800 or 1989 can be taken as the take-off point, and 5000 BC. or 1000 AD no ?
            International law can be interpreted in favor of the right to self-determination of the people.
            If the Indians kick out all the Anglo-Saxons from the United States, would you say the same that this is against international law?
            1. +1
              21 October 2020 21: 03
              Quote: Voentorg
              International law can be interpreted in favor of the right to self-determination of the people.


              Modern views on the right to self-determination of the people imply broad autonomy while maintaining territorial integrity.
              And so Armenia has complete self-determination - it has its own state.
              1. -3
                22 October 2020 00: 20
                The example of Kosovo can be interpreted int. right as you wish.
                In short, in real life, as always: the right of the strongest, everything else is just idle talk.
            2. NTD
              +1
              21 October 2020 21: 51
              Quote: Voentorg
              So the Armenians have been there since BC. live

              Quote: Voentorg
              and 5000 BC. or 1000 AD no ?

              Please tell me what you smoke there? do you even know that the toponym arman, irman, erman are Turkic?) Did you even think that you write 5000 years BC?))))))))))) So they need to give Karabakh? Judging by your words, then half of the world should be given to Genghis Khan and the other to the Macedonian and what will remain to the Roman Empire, the USA to the Indians. ))))))))))))))))

              Do not write this anywhere, they will think they fled from a psychiatric hospital.
              1. -4
                22 October 2020 00: 18
                The Macedonians have the native land of Macedonia, the Mongols have Mongolia, they conquered everything else and then quickly merged.
                But Armenians have been living in Armenia, Nakhichevan, Karabakh, Kars and Samkhia since ancient times.
                5000 BC or 10000/300000 BC who knows?
                According to written sources, they are the first there. But the Turkic migrants from the Uyguria did not live there before 1000 AD.
                1. +1
                  22 October 2020 09: 43
                  To your regret, dear, you do not quite correctly know Armenian historiography! The indigenous territories of the Armenians, according to their own historiography and confirmed by ancient authors, are the upper reaches of the tiger and the Euphrates, it is between Syria and Turkey, the rest of the territories were conquered by the Armenians and then also lost. Be careful in your statements, for the Armenians have a mythological historiography that is not recognized by anyone.
          2. +4
            21 October 2020 21: 41
            I suggest starting with the Crimea. Give it not to the Tatars or the Turks, but immediately to the Greeks
            1. 0
              23 October 2020 19: 17
              To the Cimmerians, they are the first known inhabitants of the peninsula.
    19. +11
      21 October 2020 18: 45
      The situation of Armenians in Karabakh is terrible - the Vardenis-Agdere road is under fire, the Goris-Jebrail road is already under control, the seizure of the Lachin-Shusha road is likely.
      The main supply goes along the central road Goris-Lachin-Shusha, and if the under-sultan throws logs in the form of unmanned attack vehicles, the supply will be difficult along this road.
      1. +5
        21 October 2020 18: 54
        Quote: Gunter
        the central road Goris-Lachin-Shusha, and if the undersultan throws logs in the form of unmanned drums, the supply will be difficult along this road.

        It is now difficult, when the artillery of Azerbaijan begins to work with direct fire, the supply will stop completely.
    20. +3
      21 October 2020 18: 49
      Pashinyan has interesting kids and in what trenches are they now?
      1. NTD
        -1
        21 October 2020 19: 36
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Pashinyan has interesting kids and in what trenches are they now?

        There is a son and he is next to daddy.
        1. -1
          21 October 2020 20: 34
          Son at the front, citizen sovramshi
      2. -3
        21 October 2020 20: 35
        At the front. What are you worried about?
        1. +2
          21 October 2020 21: 00
          Knowledge for the sake of. Curiosity for.
    21. +4
      21 October 2020 18: 53
      Our task is to fight to the end, without a trace, in the name of the rights of our people.

      After these words, Pashanyan took a machine gun and went to the front! (sarcasm)
      1. -4
        21 October 2020 20: 33
        He has a son at the front.
        Although this is not an argument, it is clear
    22. +2
      21 October 2020 18: 58
      It would be better if he called on the diaspora to split up to buy weapons from Russia.
      It is difficult to fight without air defense.
      If the Armenian air defense continues to strike, Armenia is doomed.
      1. -1
        21 October 2020 19: 18
        so they collected 50000000 ml of euros where is the money Zin ....... laughing
    23. 0
      21 October 2020 19: 01
      If the Armenian people chose a dude from the backyard as their leader, then his (the people’s) situation can be characterized by a joke "from the backyard": "It's too late, Rita, you fell in love with a thief."
    24. -3
      21 October 2020 19: 03
      Inoagent Pashinyan leaked Karabakh am
    25. +7
      21 October 2020 19: 04
      Quote: SaLaR
      The Russians ... help the Pashinyans ... everything to the market .... we will help the Armenians to leave to defend the Motherland ...........))) Armenians of all countries, unite ... and to Armenia .. .Motherland calls ...)


      Understandably banter, but the Russians, especially in the southern regions (Rostov Oblast, Krasnodar Territory, Stavropol Territory), are too happy to accept every news about the next defeat of Armenians in Karabakh. Wake up ... Lyubka with a serious face and sympathy, those who yesterday climbed into the eyes: "And I thought you went home, it's hard for you there ..." and in the same spirit, in general, like skiing for tenderness and diaper rash.
    26. -2
      21 October 2020 19: 10
      Pashinyan is a traitor to the Armenian people, he deliberately merges Karabakh, only this explains why neither the air defense of Nagorno-Karabakh, nor Armenia can oppose anything to strike UAVs. In Libya, too, there was no such thing, although there were only a few Armor, and the first issues.

      All the air defense systems of Nagorno-Karabakh are old MANPADS and Wasps, which simply do not reach the height of Bayraktary, from the very beginning of the conflict the defenders of Karabakh had no chance, these UAVs strike and conduct reconnaissance and adjust artillery, and the Armenians simply have nothing to answer.

      4 Su-30s are idle, although they could have removed these UAVs from a long range, the R-77 missiles could have been sent on a regular plane if necessary, but the Iskanders put the same UAVs under attack again without deliberately covering them introducing into the affected area (otherwise what need was to use them directly from the border almost), without creating false positions, etc., like the S-300.

      Pashinyan deliberately merges Karabakh, he is a Western agent, and after the loss of Karabakh, Armenia can be easily pushed into NATO and signed associations with the EU, under the pretext of a happy life, but in fact, everything that Pashinyan does is all aimed at one thing - to BREAK THE ECONOMIC AND MILITARY TECHNICAL TIES OF ARMENIA AND RUSSIA.

      Having entered NATO and the EU, Armenia will not become Germany in terms of living standards, it will yield even to Bulgaria.

      Pashinyan divorced the Armenians and betrayed, and all his tantrums are just pretense. It's sad.
      1. -9
        21 October 2020 19: 14
        These "Turkish" (assembly only) UAVs are very slow compared to classic aircraft (max 200 km / h). Because of this, it is easier for radars to spot them, and to shoot down air defenses.
        Either the Armenian air defense is draining its infantry, or all the videos are just video editing.
        1. NTD
          +4
          21 October 2020 19: 38
          Quote: Voentorg
          These "Turkish" (assembly only) UAVs are very slow compared to classic aircraft (max 200 km / h). Because of this, it is easier for radars to spot them, and to shoot down air defenses.

          Michael is not easy to shoot them down. And they are not always visible to radars. Air defense should be echelon. From the S-300 there is a distant line, then Buk, Pantsir, Tor, Tunguska and so on. Then yes, there is a chance and that is not 100%
        2. +2
          21 October 2020 23: 15
          "These" Turkish "(assembly only) UAVs" You would be interested before writing nonsense.
    27. +3
      21 October 2020 19: 12
      In short, total war! I've already heard it somewhere.
    28. +7
      21 October 2020 19: 15
      Nicolas has several goals:
      1. To pull Russia into conflict
      2. To dissolve the CSTO
      3. To threaten as much of the active part of the male population of Armenia as possible
      4. To squabble Russia with close and not so neighbors / partners
      5. Surrender Artsax and move into the arms of their American masters.

      The best way out for Armenians is to give pink to Pashinyan and put him in a cage. Take back presidential rule. And then already lead the war of liberation.
      And so, the more Pashinyans will appeal to patriotism, the more people will scrape from the country. For Nicolas, who himself does not recognize Karabakh, they do not really want to lay down their heads.
    29. +4
      21 October 2020 19: 16
      How could the Armenians let the little Pashinyan goat on the board? They deprived themselves of the Russian amulet. As well as the Czech Republic, which demolished the monument to Konev, and today another country claims its land (the rest will follow up later).
    30. +9
      21 October 2020 19: 17
      Meanwhile, the Defense Ministry of the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh announces the use of Czech-made 152 mm DANA self-propelled artillery mounts by the Azerbaijani army. According to available information, these self-propelled guns are in service with one of the military units of the central subordination of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, and moving to the conflict zone with subsequent use shows that the corps artillery of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces has suffered serious losses since the beginning of the hostilities.
      They really hold everyone for idiots ... 152mm self-propelled guns "Dana" from the very beginning in action, even when Jabrail was captured, they lit up:

      At 03:50 the division is to the right of the road.
      And the case is 2S7, 2S5 and 2S19, plus large-caliber MLRS, all of them are also at the front from the first days.
      1. NTD
        +2
        21 October 2020 19: 39
        Quote: VictorM
        They really take everyone for idiots ...

        and most importantly they do not understand this.
    31. -1
      21 October 2020 19: 20
      Better to let them return someone else's land
    32. +1
      21 October 2020 19: 20
      to defend the Motherland
      That this Soros miscarriage can know about the Motherland, he sold the country to the fshists and calls on someone else.
    33. 0
      21 October 2020 19: 34
      As the song says, take cloak backpack, let's go home!
    34. +1
      21 October 2020 19: 48
      So that's good. This means that Armenia left the CSTO. Russia has one less headache.

      And Azerbaijan will give it to Armenia anyway. Until the complete liberation of all Azerbaijani territories, including Nagorno-Karabakh.
    35. +9
      21 October 2020 19: 50
      This situation with this comedian is a typical example of what Russophobia and the desire to sit on not even two, but FIVE chairs lead to! Good luck, Pashinyan and all your cleverly crafted environment !!! Do you want to harness Russia for yourself, after you drove it and the TV channels called out ?! Remember the slogans "Russia - get out", "Russia - you have nothing to do in the Caucasus", "Invaders - get out" ..... Soros was a good advisor! So let him be for you, the mug and harnessed! You will soon profuse not only Karabakh, but also Armenia itself! And Russia already has enough of such "friends"! Bulgaria was already and others !!!
    36. +1
      21 October 2020 20: 00
      Quote: Livonetc
      The Armenians have no success in the offensive.
      But there is a defense.
      The main success is the preservation of an efficient army.
      France, at one time, generally fell in 6 weeks.


      Have patience sir))) Only 3 weeks have passed ...

      I (I think not only I alone) at first thought that Pashinyan was brought in to surrender Karabakh. To expel the Russian base and thereby ensure a successful turn of Armenia to the west. It turned out that I was shortsighted. He was brought in not only for these purposes. The main goal was the extermination of the Armenian people. Isn't it a crime to send young people to certain death and thereby deprive your people of the part that should ensure the growth of the nation !?
    37. +1
      21 October 2020 20: 01
      Pro-Russian is not working out very well now - IZ.RU: Armenian President Armen Sargsyan went on a working visit to Brussels to meet with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg
    38. +3
      21 October 2020 20: 10
      Pashinyan himself provoked this conflict by the fact that he illegally came to power, his statements, actions and inaction, provocations, Russophobia. one of the goals of placing him in power was this conflict, and now even more people are being pushed to death. A call for volunteers against modern weapons, just an affectionate killer, like hepatitis for the entire Armenian people, well done.
    39. 0
      21 October 2020 20: 12
      According to the available information, these self-propelled guns are in service with one of the military units of the central subordination of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, and moving to the conflict zone with subsequent use shows that the corps artillery of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces has suffered serious losses since the beginning of the hostilities.

      In any article about the success of Azerbaijan, here and in many articles of the Russian Federation, something should be in the end fictional or inclined in favor of Armenia. Dana was used because of its rate of fire and fast mobility. Here many experts write Azerbaijan will be exhausted. If at least a third is more and more, technologically and resourcefully, then not only NK and Armenia should NOT exist.
      Why Mament Kunem Pashenyan doesn't say that a few hours ago, his EU and NATO, and most importantly France, literally sent him to the kui! He appealed to the EU, NATO and France "officially" at the presidential level to recognize NK as "sovereign", and he heard that you
    40. -1
      21 October 2020 20: 13
      The Turks have always kotsali Armenians, the Armenians in history have always created combat-ready units, but now they can, if honestly, start to die, die for Armenia without our help, after all, Turkey is an enemy and not an ally. And even more so she chose not us as allies
    41. -2
      21 October 2020 20: 13
      On October 23, Pompeo kiroshinu will add to the conflict or pacify, which is less likely.
    42. +2
      21 October 2020 20: 14
      By the way, the Armenian military stepped on the same rake twice. A few days ago, Pashinyan, giving an interview to some channel, said that "they say, at this moment, our soldiers are giving heat to Azerbaijanis by creating a hot pot for them." But it turned out that it was the Azerbaijani army that showed them the "Kuzkin mother" of a local scale ...
      Here again, they wanted to create a boiler for ours in the south. And Shushan Aliyeva announced this to the whole world. And today it turned out that it was our army who fished them out and destroyed more than 400 zinvors overnight ... We have a proverb: "A donkey steps on the mud only once ..." It turned out that the Armenian military are not donkeys))))
      1. +3
        21 October 2020 20: 27
        All military commentators emphasize that there is no peace war and sabotage. And so with air supremacy, the days of Armenian technology are numbered.
    43. -3
      21 October 2020 20: 26
      It's too late. But right. But the uniform and shoulder straps must be dressed. And call the Armenian volunteers from the territory of the Russian Federation.
    44. +7
      21 October 2020 20: 26
      Here is what a certain Armenian Orthodox priest writes about Pashinyan:




      But what the journalist Kovalev, who lives in Azerbaijan, writes ...
    45. +2
      21 October 2020 20: 43
      Quote: Egor53
      So that's good. This means that Armenia left the CSTO. Russia has one less headache.

      And Azerbaijan will give it to Armenia anyway. Until the complete liberation of all Azerbaijani territories, including Nagorno-Karabakh.

      If Armenia withdraws from the CSTO, then there will indeed be a war, including the Yerevan Khanate, until the FULL liberation bully So they will not leave the CSTO now, but if Russia restrains Azerbaijan and they do not rip off in Karabakh in full, so hard that all the nonsense from the head flew out, then how to drink greyhounds on the remains will be accused of the defeat of the "great Armenian warrior and spirit "Russia, and they will rush to NATO, since they have been participating in all programs for a long time ...
    46. -11
      21 October 2020 21: 12
      Why is the Azinfo branch on VO?
      1. -1
        21 October 2020 21: 45
        Do you want to decide our fate without us? Without Azerbaijanis and Armenians? Do you want to listen to our positions?
        1. 0
          21 October 2020 21: 56
          Your positions are orthodox in the worst sense of the word.
          Have listened.
          And your fate is in your hands.
          Turn your heads on.
          Otherwise, you will miss many goals.
      2. +3
        21 October 2020 21: 54
        How for what? For objectivity)
    47. +5
      21 October 2020 21: 18
      take up arms and go to defend the Motherland
      - said Pashinyan

      In fact, this is just a call to throw fresh meat into the crucible of war and, having suffered huge losses of a poorly trained, insufficiently equipped militia, to hope that the enemy losing 1/50 will somehow consider his losses unacceptable and agree to an agreement convenient for Pashinyan.
      This is not even stupidity, this is a direct complicity to the enemy: instead of preserving your people in the hope of winning a victory in the future, feeding them to the enemy is senseless and merciless.
      1. -7
        21 October 2020 22: 33
        If Stalin had thought the same in 41, you would most likely never have been born.
        1. +1
          22 October 2020 06: 34
          Quote: Summer Resident452
          If Stalin had thought the same in 41, you would most likely never have been born.

          Stalin had one advantage over Pashinyan: huge resources, territorial, human, mobilization (technology, production equipment, reoriented to work for defense). After huge losses in the personnel units of the Red Army, he could afford to start exchanging divisions and corps for a while, although, of course, he also had a very unprofitable "course" with the exchange of Moscow volunteers.
    48. +4
      21 October 2020 21: 36
      ... And why does he not go to the front, setting an example for his people?
      1. -2
        21 October 2020 22: 02
        And who will lead the people?
        1. +1
          21 October 2020 22: 32
          yes, they will somehow cope without him
    49. -2
      21 October 2020 22: 46
      There, OUR special RER are already monitoring, there is, for sure, an agreement we will help (gain experience) the fight against drones! Moscow was not built in a day. I think there are already conclusions and solutions to the issue of air supremacy, they will soon fall. A direct clash between Armenia and Azerbaijan is not beneficial to us, therefore Karabakh will be like Ashuluk, calculations in a combat setting. They will not hand over the whole, well, the client must mature (Pashik, i.e. fascist, love honey, love and chill. Is the power in truth or in Moscow?)
    50. +1
      21 October 2020 22: 50
      Actually, everyone has already understood.
      Moscow will not support Pashinyan's regime.
      And there is simply no one else to support him.
      Everyone has no time for Armenia now due to various circumstances.
      1. -1
        21 October 2020 23: 13
        https://m.vk.com/wall-55849790_1688944?from=syriantube%3Ffrom%3Dgroups#comments
    51. +8
      21 October 2020 23: 20
      Quote: Voentorg
      Well, in general, the Armenians are the indigenous inhabitants of Karabakh and Nakhichevan since ancient times, these are their lands, even according to international law. But the motivation to fight with them is not very ...
      Hmm, historical fact, the Armenians lived in Crimea before it was conquered by Russia, are they ready to give it to Armenia?
      They remembered Nakhichevan, do you know why one of the parts of the city of Rostov-on-Don is now called the same?
      An old story. The Crimean Khan entrusted most of the trade in the Khanate to the Armenians, that is, as you understand, to put it mildly, he did not oppress them at a minimum. So, during the campaign against Crimea, in order to undermine its supply, it was decided to do this in a simple way, to paralyze trade, which they did by attracting the Armenians, who, by betraying the khan, put Crimea in a difficult situation. For this latest betrayal in their history, the Armenians were allowed to found a settlement on the Don, which they called Nakhichevan, and which later became part of Rostov-on-Don.

      Quote: Summer Resident452
      Why is the Azinfo branch on VO?
      Do you like Arminfo better? Well, to be honest, they lie well; many, even experienced comrades, have fallen for their tales more than once.
      Do you think it’s good to feel the bitterness of defeat, and even being slandered over and over again for more than a quarter of a century?
      Even now, when everyone is eager to fight, ready to put up with any losses, when they are trying to humiliate our victory either with stories about mercenaries, or with the non-existent direct participation of the Turks, etc., etc., and again remain silent?

      Think about it, because now Russians can understand this, we experience similar feelings when they turn the story about the Second World War and the Second World War upside down, when all sorts of unruly scum and scoundrels demolish monuments to marshals, and defame the honor and name of grandfathers...

      When history proved to Russia that Azerbaijan behaved evenly, never hit in the back, never played tricks, never twisted behind its back, and in response received only cuffs and punches in the information field of Russia, which is literally occupied by Armenians, Russians, primarily Russians myths about the loyalty of the Armenians as the support of Russia are imposed... Name at least one Empire, including the Russian one, which the Armenians would faithfully serve in gratitude for their protection and patronage? - you won’t find a single one, ALL PATRONS WERE BETRAYED without exception. The Russian Federation has only stepped on the rake of the Russian Empire.

      Thanks to Pashinyan and his masters, and many thanks to Russia, that Azerbaijan now has a chance, albeit at the cost of the lives of its best sons, to liberate its occupied lands. But looking at Azerbaijan and the problems it has received, do not forget to draw conclusions from history. Griboyedov once wrote to the emperor:
      “Your Excellency, do not allow the settlement of Armenians in the central Russian lands. They are from such a tribe that after living for several decades, they will begin to shout to the whole world that this is the land of our fathers and great-grandfathers”...


      That’s all, the issue has been resolved, Russia has given the go-ahead and Azerbaijan has ALREADY liberated many of its lands and continues, so now we are writing more for the Russians and for Russia - DON’T REPEAT THE MISTAKES, the Armenians can set you up in such a way at the most unexpected and inopportune moment that even for Russia with its scale it will be a heavy blow. Azerbaijan, I repeat once again, thanks again to Russia, is closing the Karabakh issue and will not forget that not only Turkey was behind this, I repeat, we all know very well that the keys to Karabakh are in Moscow, so now we are writing more for the Russians. Be afraid of Armenian Nazism, do not let it take root among Russian Armenians, otherwise there will be trouble. Well, sorry, I’m not a nationalist, but everything has its own measure and its limit, and with the fact that now in Russia, only an Armenian president is missing, are there really not enough Russians and indigenous Russian peoples and people from among them to have their own normal media without Armenian dominance?... Well, one, two, well, it’s understandable if there is talent, you need to give it a way, it’s natural and you don’t need to look at nationality, but when he drags his entire nation along with him... - sorry, but as if in my opinion opinion, it is unacceptable.
      1. -1
        21 October 2020 23: 43
        Russia should be interested only in its national interests. Türkiye is our geopolitical enemy. Let's remember the role in Chechnya. What does Erdogan say about Crimea? Russia is already waging a proxy war with Turkey in Syria and Libya. Azerbaijan is a Turkish puppet. Erdogan's official slogan is “two countries, one people.”
        So, there’s no need, half-Russian mestizo Galib, we’re here to spread cheap demagoguery to supposedly naive Russians. Turkish Islamism and chauvinism are no better than Armenian nationalism. Worse and more dangerous for Russia.
        If the Armenians were unable to prepare for war and have a normal elite, this is sad. But there is no reason for the Russian Vanya to die for Karabakh when the Armenians themselves do not want to fight.
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      2. -3
        22 October 2020 01: 01
        Doesn't work. Armenians did not live in Crimea before the Russians (and in general they never lived there, except for 2,5 traders)
        And we were there before the Tatars.
        In the 10th century, Crimea was part of the Tmutarakan principality. So the original Russian land.
        1. 0
          22 October 2020 07: 01
          Quote: Voentorg
          In the 10th century, Crimea was part of the Tmutarakan principality.

          Someone beat Crusader Kings...
          Not at 10, but at 11. And not all of Crimea, but only Korchev and Surozh.
      3. -2
        22 October 2020 01: 06
        Marshal Bagramyan?
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      1. -1
        22 October 2020 00: 32
        Great, let's do it again, just be more complaining. )))
        1. -2
          22 October 2020 00: 34
          Galibchik, your Russian genes are clearly harming you, forcing you to write this))) well, what else should I call you - yarim cins or what? It would be rude of me
    53. 0
      22 October 2020 00: 47
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      Galibchik, your Russian genes are clearly harming you, forcing you to write this))) well, what else should I call you - yarim cins or what? It would be rude of me

      Call me DADDY girl laughing
      1. -2
        22 October 2020 01: 19
        It's a bit weak. Try again
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    55. -2
      22 October 2020 01: 04
      Quote: Rubina
      I suggest starting with the Crimea. Give it not to the Tatars or the Turks, but immediately to the Greeks

      No one has canceled the right of the strongest.
      Before the Greeks, the Cimmerians lived there, and before that the Taurs. So the Greeks are also aliens there.
    56. +3
      22 October 2020 01: 11
      Quote: Voentorg
      Quote: Rubina
      I suggest starting with the Crimea. Give it not to the Tatars or the Turks, but immediately to the Greeks

      No one has canceled the right of the strongest.
      Before the Greeks, the Cimmerians lived there, and before that the Taurs. So the Greeks are also aliens there.

      So thank God!... Finally... Everything seems to be simple and clear as day, but just try to explain this to the Armenians, the newcomer Balkan tribe in the Middle East and specifically in Mesopotamia, which is not everywhere where Ashot sat down "Great Armenia" machine gun.
      I'm afraid you won't succeed.
      That's why only strength remains.
      1. -2
        22 October 2020 01: 16
        So I am not against great Armenia. I agree with the division of Azerbaijan: Armenia Karabakh, Russia Elizavetopol + Baku (oil and gas).
        1. -3
          22 October 2020 02: 09
          And the Turks - to their historical homeland - that is, to Altai))))) Seljk Turks and Ottoman Turks are alien conquerors from the Syr Darya, descendants of a mixture of local Oghuz Turks, Turkmens and Saljiuts
          1. -4
            22 October 2020 02: 10
            By the way, the dynasty of the Aliyev Khans are Kurds, not Azeri)))
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    58. +2
      22 October 2020 02: 23
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      And the Turks - to their historical homeland - that is, to Altai))))) Seljk Turks and Ottoman Turks are alien conquerors from the Syr Darya, descendants of a mixture of local Oghuz Turks, Turkmens and Saljiuts

      A guy dressed up as a Cossack with AAA, forgot about Yakutia, Chuvashia, Bashkiria, Tatarstan, Tuva, etc... How will you live on, a starving man without gas, oil, diamonds, gold, coal, ore, all this is on Turkic lands? laughing
      You have forgotten how to work, the level of education in the country is approaching zero, the technologies inherited from the USSR are becoming obsolete, this is only new in the fairy tales of Chubais and others.

      laughing laughing laughing
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    59. 0
      22 October 2020 02: 27
      Quote: Voentorg
      So I am not against great Armenia. I agree with the division of Azerbaijan: Armenia Karabakh, Russia Elizavetopol + Baku (oil and gas).

      Well, everyone has their own dreams, my dreams are more modest and, although a distant prospect, they are a possible reality laughing The Iravan Khanate and the Zangezur Mahal, the Derbent Khanate and Southern Azerbaijan, the lands around the Colchis kingdom are piled up.
      I don’t need anything else and I don’t want someone else’s, only my own, as they say - “the way home”, “to my native harbor” hi
    60. +1
      22 October 2020 02: 29
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      By the way, the dynasty of the Aliyev Khans are Kurds, not Azeri)))

      AND? Even if it were so, it would make no difference - our Kurds are not exactly the Kurds of our own system, so to speak laughing “Kurd” - this only emphasizes the origin, but all of them are either Turks, or have long been Turkified and do not know their relationship with the Turkish Kurds, and so on.
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    63. -5
      22 October 2020 06: 55
      Every day of this unequal struggle, Armenia writes heroic pages in the history of its people.
      The borders of the territories will change, deceitful politicians and their minions will disappear into oblivion, the pure and majestic feat of the people who gave their lives for the independence of their homeland, like Ararat, will remain.
      I hate those who carried out this massacre and I despise those who did not find in their hearts at least sympathy for the bleeding little people.
    64. 0
      22 October 2020 08: 15
      The most interesting thing in the article is the link after the article to an article from two years ago: “The Armenian Parliament has fallen.”
    65. +4
      22 October 2020 08: 55
      Quote: Summer Resident452
      I hate those who carried out this massacre and I despise those who did not find in their hearts at least sympathy for the bleeding little people.
      What kind of small people are they?!... You confused the Armenians with someone, they are not a small people at all.
      It’s just that most of these people prefer to live anywhere, but not in Armenia, and for some reason you don’t sympathize with these people on this matter - THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT ARMENIA.

      Well, whether you hate Russia or not is your right, but how will you then differ from the Armenians who also “love” their Armenia? Russia has been doing everything for decades to resolve this conflict, guaranteeing security and respecting the interests of the Armenians. They wanted more, ignoring the word of their senior partner and ally over and over again, in the end - “the greed of the fraer ruined him.”

      Quote: Summer Resident452
      Every day of this unequal struggle, Armenia writes heroic pages in the history of its people.
      Well, yes, before that they wrote in the “heroic” massacre and execution of women, children and old people. Now these savages are hitting the residential areas of sleeping Ganja with SCUDs, and are constantly hitting the population of front-line villages.
      Some of these heroes are those who poisoned themselves and shot themselves, who were sentenced in Nuremberg.

      Quote: Summer Resident452
      The borders of the territories will change, deceitful politicians and their minions will disappear into oblivion, the pure and majestic feat of the people who gave their lives for the independence of their homeland, like Ararat, will remain.
      Unfortunately, the borders will not change; Russia will not allow it.
    66. 0
      22 October 2020 10: 56
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      Well, how did your ancestor break the “lusty Russian sheep” for himself?
      For this it is not a sin to cut off the head with such a long tongue.
      But alas, tyrnet does not allow this, so the tongues, hiding behind the screen of a smartphone or PC, are all like selecting “heroes”.
      I’m just here to pass the time while I’m following the news, the border is still closed and I can’t join the Azerbaijani army, so at the same time I can do some education.

      Let it be known to you, scarecrow mummer, that for the most part, not all, but the majority, praise the Almighty, Azerbaijanis are not “gay-Europeanized,” that is, not reduced to the level of cattle, they are committed to classical and traditional values. Family and women are sacred to Azerbaijanis; Azerbaijanis are good family men and do not create families with “lusty sheep” either from their nation, much less from any other. Traditionally, upbringing, behavior, reputation and honor are valued in a woman, and chastity is also required for a girl who has not been previously married. Once upon a time, this is all, by the way, the majority of the Russian people had the same traditions, now only a small part adheres to such traditions, but as I can see, there is a tendency in a good direction, many people are beginning to turn to the origins and traditions. Understanding that behind the rejection of community and tribal ties, sexual promiscuity there is nothing “progressive and modern”, but only the fornication of Satanism. My “ancestor” and I have great respect for those Russians and.. Cossacks smile , we are not talking about clowns like you, whose daughters are married, for example, contrary to jokes and jokes, I really respect my mother-in-law, because I was taught “by looking at the mother, marry the daughter,” I respect my father-in-law, because only a worthy man can choose a worthy woman , keep the family within limits, serve as an example and support for it. These are ordinary Russian people, neither rich nor poor, ordinary in a word, and God grant to the Russians that there will be more and more of them, and most importantly, that there will be more men who value women for the above, and fewer buffoons like you. Otherwise, marry lustful sheep, and then grumble about cuckolds.
      Remember, only someone who was born a lady, married to a lady, or the father of a lady tries to insult other people's women - all from the complex.
      So, scarecrow, if you were a Russian, or even more so a Cossack, it would be worth being proud that there are still, and thank God there are enough, daughters of the Russian people, whom representatives of nations with traditional views marry, or as some people now say out of stupidity and in captivity of deception, conservative views.

      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      ...and so we occupied these territories)))) sooner or later we will clear ourselves of the Victor-Ghalibs, who are disloyal. So be it, together with their bedding. We are kind and humane.
      No, people like you are simply “Ivans who don’t remember their kinship,” people like you are of no use either in the present or in the future. The Russian people are not those Rusichs or Rus of Kievan Rus, and many Turkic tribes dissolved in that, but the diversity of peoples united by what we call the GREAT Russian culture, within the framework of the processes of migrations, wars, etc. assimilated and gave rise to one of the strongest nations in Europe, and quite young by historical standards. Russians have quite a lot of Turkic blood, there are also purely Turkic people, for example Tatars are baptized, etc. (don’t ask anyone - “I’m Russian!”, the film “Zhmurki” comes to mind laughing ", many smart guys like you landed pretty quickly after the Turkic surname was translated into Russian and explanations of its origins were given. And finally, comrade mummer buffoon, the Cossacks have Turkic blood more than any subethnic group of the Russian people smile
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    67. +1
      22 October 2020 12: 23
      Maybe at least our cities will be freed from these arrogant and greedy Armenians
    68. 0
      22 October 2020 13: 57
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      Praise for Russian culture looks funny in the eyes of an enemy of Russia and a Turkish hanger-on)))
      There were many worthy people in Russia with mixed ethnic origins, but their choice for service was in favor of Russia, and not Az-na or Turkey.
      Although the Ghalibs personally would rather be in Russia. They can be our open enemies, but no one touches them. Culture, yes sir! And in Az, not everyone will remind you of Russian genes)))

      Well, thank God, it’s not you and some other bastards who decide who is the enemy, and I’m not so decrepit yet that I won’t be able to turn off the firebrand of some shabby chick. I amused myself about the Turkish hanger-on, it’s not for nothing that he’s a clown, if the Turkish officers had heard you with whomever they had an encounter on their initiative, then I think that a peaceful man, before he hurts me, explain who they are and where their place is, and in response to statements that we are not warriors, but they half of Europe kept telling how the Azerbaijanis prescribed them lyulei under Erzurum laughing It’s only a pity about the unfortunate defeats later on from Russia; if it weren’t for them, I wouldn’t have to read some kind of monkey now.
      Victor fought for Russia, Galib fought and served for more than one year in Azerbaijan, a guard captain in one case and a major in another, now he works with a very modest business due to political and ideological reasons and views, but both here and there, thus in both countries, provides both itself and its employees with an honest piece of bread.
      But what is our mummered man doing, besides spewing bile at pretending to be the father of the Russian nation, what did he do for his country, especially unlike Victor/Ghalib, his task is easier, he only has one country?... Did this donkey at least serve as the seat of an Arabian horse? In what warehouse, what did I steal, what did I not manage to convey - I don’t know how to steal, I don’t know how to trade either, although maybe in a moment of loss of spirit I’ll envy you, so what about in colors and in more detail? smile In general, it seems to me that you are not a Russian at all, but an Armenian who has come under his own skin and is “fighting” here, and yet, unlike us, and the cards are in your hands, they are organizing flights from Moscow for you, but only judging by you, The sides are flying half empty.
      1. -1
        22 October 2020 16: 57
        Yes, he is a macaw who codes as "egg". Victor, with respect!
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            22 October 2020 21: 53
            I remember these Galibs even across the river. Garbage
    69. 0
      22 October 2020 14: 12
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      Write more. I am satisfied with the effect, since I see that I hit the main complex of Victor-Ghalibs, who, trying to atone for their origins from the bedding that betrayed their people, are trying to noisily re-Azerize the real Azeri)))
      You see, you call my mother and wife litter, why should I hiss here to no avail? If you were a man, and not a lady, and realizing that in some conditions they cannot call you to account and, separating you from your body, stick your head into your own anus, you would find a way to hurt me PERSONALLY verbally, and this is how you hurt women and who after that?... - IMHO, small and smelly, either a dung worm or a worm. Another hint for you, I forgot my children, have some fun there. You see the hero go through the women and children.
      I don’t press the buttons to complain to the Administrator, as you might think with your flawed logic, it’s already clear to me who he is and what he is, since your fountain is not shut up, and I’m giving you the opportunity to reveal all your talents and appear in all your glory, to show yourself to people.

      The Armenians, too, for a long time waved their tongues with impunity, wherever they could they slandered my nation and people, and now is the moment of truth, everyone sees who they are, that they are on business, and not blah blah, everyone is gradually seeing the light. You look, and then whoever thought you were even humanoid will also begin to see clearly and understand what kind of insignificance and wretchedness you are.
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      22 October 2020 14: 15
      Quote: Varyag71
      Maybe at least our cities will be freed from these arrogant and greedy Armenians

      On the contrary, even more will be added, or rather it has increased.
      They knew everything in advance, how from Baku all the rich people in positions and guild workers had retreated ahead of time, selling their apartments and businesses at a profit, and exposing ordinary Armenians, and now the young people were already here three or four weeks before the war and are unlikely to return now . And the rest will join them too.
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        22 October 2020 16: 16
        Well, just like Azeri))) two boots - a pair

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